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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #697

 1. Re: Question about what are scenic designers thinking
    by "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
 2. Tips for programming DL2s
    by "John D. Palmer" <john [at] palmerandcompany.biz>
 3. Building oversized books for "Seussical" the musical
    by "Ryan Rohrer" <rohrerrc [at] lancastermennonite.org>
 4. New E-mail Address
    by Chris Wych <a_small_idiot [at] yahoo.com>
 5. Re: Building oversized books for "Seussical" the musical
    by "Jared Fortney" <jared.fortney [at] gmail.com>
 6. Re: Building oversized books for "Seussical" the musical
    by "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>
 7. Re: Building oversized books for "Seussical" the musical
    by "Matthew Breton" <theatricalmatt [at] hotmail.com>
 8. dimmer and dmx question
    by Judy <kupfer [at] post.tau.ac.il>

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Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 05:51:53 -1000
From: "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Question about what are scenic designers thinking
Message-id: <000901c6356c$68217100$0202a8c0 [at] HUNKACRAP>
References: <list-27757876 [at] prxy.net>

<<Designers can do anything they want. The question remains whether what
they
do is any good... whether their "vision" helps or hinders the production.
Sepia tones are somewhat of a tired cliché but if a designer wants use that
palette, more power to 'em.>>

<<I have to disagree.  Designers have to serve the production, not just
what they might want to do.  They need the directors approval, and
their design has to fit within the physical and monetary constraint of
that show.

Hopefully the scenic designer is also collaborating with the other
designers on the show.>>

Sigh...

We're not so much disagreeing as talking towards different ideas. The points
you are making I consider a given as part of the basic design process.

I once designed "Winnie the Pooh" for children's theatre and put it in an
urban setting. The chain-linked rear of two two story walk-ups.

It was a beautiful set... but a bad design.

As I watched the show I realized how dead wrong the design was. The director
had stated many times how she didn't want costumed animals running around on
stage and strongly embraced my "vision" of the set.

We ended up with a show with no audience, too advanced for kids, too
immature for adults.

Learned a lot on that one.

One does not learn from success... but from failure.

Laters,

Paul

"All that's left are the front and back," Tom decided.



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Message-ID: <009901c635a8$9c8fb780$6501a8c0 [at] Toshiba2>
From: "John D. Palmer" <john [at] palmerandcompany.biz>
Subject: Tips for programming DL2s
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 15:02:51 -0800

To the wisdom of the list, I ask:
Anybody have tricks to working with DL2s?
I will be programming a show with four of them in a couple 
of weeks and wouldn't mind any helpful suggestions.
The console will be a Hog II.  I don't know what the main 
use of the DL2s will be.
I have to cop to having only had time to glance at the 
manual so far, so more involved questions might come later.
It is ironic, I predicted less than two weeks ago that I 
would be working with this gear soon.  I didn't think it was 
going to be this soon!
Thanks,
John

John D. Palmer
Palmer & Company Design & Production
(213) 453-1547 


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From: "Ryan Rohrer" <rohrerrc [at] lancastermennonite.org>
Subject: Building oversized books for "Seussical" the musical
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 19:43:41 -0500

I am trying to find a material to use for constructing multiple oversized 3' 
x 5' storybooks for "Seussical." They need to be light in weight for the 
cast to carry, but need to be sturdy enough to walk on. A thought that came 
to mind was fiberglass, but since I have no experience in that, I'm not sure 
if that is practical. Any suggestions?

Ryan Rohrer
Technical Director
Lancaster Mennonite School
Fine Arts Center
2176 Lincoln Hwy East
Lancaster,  PA  17602
717-299-0436 ofc.  ex.333
717-629-3356 cell
717-299-0823 fax
rohrerrc [at] lancastermennonite.org
www.lancastermennonite.org 



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Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 17:13:49 -0800 (PST)
From: Chris Wych <a_small_idiot [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: New E-mail Address

To whom it concerns,

I have a new email address please update your address
books.  Tts SetMonkey13 [at] gmail.com

I have had problems with yahoo deciding to make my
account inactive and deleting all my saved messages. 
Unfortinuatly I lost alot of great emails from this
group.  Hopefull I wont have any problems with gmail.

Chris Wych



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Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 18:51:28 -0800
From: "Jared Fortney" <jared.fortney [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Building oversized books for "Seussical" the musical
In-Reply-To: <list-27777727 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-27777727 [at] prxy.net>

>I am trying to find a material to use for constructing multiple oversized =
3'
>x 5' storybooks for "Seussical."

Ryan,
I built my share of large books for an opera about a year ago, and our
solution was a styrofoam core, lauan covers and halved ethafoam
covered with gaff tape for the spine.  The foam was split pipe
insulation with adhesive along the split.  Once cut in half, I used
the adhesive to hold the foam while I taped it.  we then used
single-sided corrugated cardboard glued to the exposed edges of the
styrofoam for the "pages."  Our books topped out at about 18" x 24",
but the technique may still work for you.

-Jared Fortney
Rigger
CdS, Corteo

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Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 20:54:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Building oversized books for "Seussical" the musical
From: "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>

> I am trying to find a material to use for constructing multiple
oversized 3'
> x 5' storybooks for "Seussical."

There is a cardboard "honeycomb" that is used in some construction
projects that is very light. Applying luan covers over that, with suitable
treatment for the spine and "page edges" would make a very strong prop.

Another possibility would be balsa core designed for boatbuilding.

Do a Google search for sources.

Bill


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From: "Matthew Breton" <theatricalmatt [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Building oversized books for "Seussical" the musical
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 01:11:03 -0500

Do the books need to be able to open and close?

I've used a number of different materials for oversized storybooks in plays, 
musicals and dances.  Did a series of over-sized, muslin-covered frames for 
a dance concert that were joined by multiple hinges.  (The frames were 5' x 
8', *much* larger than life.)  Did some smaller books made of foamcore 
pages, with lauan covers and a canvas hinge, that worked decently, though 
the foarmcore didn't hold up terribly well.  Styrofoam might work as a 
substitute, if its edges are protected.  Single sheets of lauan might also 
do the trick -- depends on exactly how lightweight you're going for.


Matthew Breton
Technical Director
Cambridge Family YMCA Theater
(617) 447-5261 (cell)
www.cambymca.org





>From: "Ryan Rohrer" <rohrerrc [at] lancastermennonite.org>
>Reply-To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
>To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
>Subject: Building oversized books for "Seussical" the musical
>Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 19:43:41 -0500
>
>For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
>---------------------------------------------------
>
>I am trying to find a material to use for constructing multiple oversized 
>3' x 5' storybooks for "Seussical." They need to be light in weight for the 
>cast to carry, but need to be sturdy enough to walk on. A thought that came 
>to mind was fiberglass, but since I have no experience in that, I'm not 
>sure if that is practical. Any suggestions?
>
>Ryan Rohrer
>Technical Director
>Lancaster Mennonite School
>Fine Arts Center
>2176 Lincoln Hwy East
>Lancaster,  PA  17602
>717-299-0436 ofc.  ex.333
>717-629-3356 cell
>717-299-0823 fax
>rohrerrc [at] lancastermennonite.org
>www.lancastermennonite.org
>
>

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Message-ID: <43F966F2.8090607 [at] post.tau.ac.il>
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 08:51:30 +0200
From: Judy <kupfer [at] post.tau.ac.il>
Subject: dimmer and dmx question

Something happened yesterday which I've come across before, but I wish I 
knew why it happens:  We were setting up a big show, and a couple of 
times there was a faulty instrument that tripped the fuse and so all the 
dimmers in that box lost power. When we turned the power  back on, all 
the dimmers in that box worked without instructions from the console 
(that is, all the lights came on full). We had to turn off the power, 
turn off the console, wait a few seconds, turn the console back on first 
and only after that turn on the power for the dimmers, in order for the 
system to behave.

I think each time it happened with different dimmers and wasn't specific 
to any one unit.

I thought it might be because there is no terminator at the end of the 
DMX line, but I don't really know, and I would like to understand 
exactly why this happens. It seems odd to me because after all the 
console was on all the time at first; why should I have to turn it off 
and then turn it back on for things to work right? I'd be surprised if 
nobody on this list could explain, so please help.
Thanks
Judy

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