Return-Path: X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 29949615; Fri, 05 May 2006 03:01:08 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.6 required=5.0 tests=ADVANCE_FEE_1,AWL,BAYES_00, DRUGS_PAIN,NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS,TW_YC autolearn=ham version=3.1.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on localhost X-Spam-Level: X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #795 Date: Fri, 05 May 2006 03:00:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #795 1. Re: Safety Frames/Lighting Accessories by "Alf Sauve" 2. OT - Okay, My Bad - IFR velour quote by Barney Simon 3. Re: Fundraising for Community Theatres by 4. Re: Fundraising for Community Theatres by "Carleton Underwood" 5. Re: Safety Frames/Lighting Accessories by Steve Shelley 6. Re: Fundraising for Community Theatres by Jo Vandver 7. odd vehicles (OT except for LRLR) by Jacqueline Haney Kidwell 8. Re: Weight in Stage Drapes = Lead Tape vs. Chain by "Carrie DePetris" 9. Re: Weight in Stage Drapes = Lead Tape vs. Chain by "C. Dopher" 10. Re: Weight in Stage Drapes = Lead Tape vs. Chain by John McKernon 11. Re: Weight in Stage Drapes = Lead Tape vs. Chain by Barney Simon 12. Fundraising for Community Theatres by Bob 13. Re: Simple Drafting / Design software by "Michael Finney" 14. One Material by "C. Dopher" 15. Re: One Material by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 16. Re: One Material by Ford Sellers 17. U.S. FIRES IN SELECTED OCCUPANCIES by "Bill Conner" 18. Re: One Material by Ford Sellers 19. Re: Fundraising for Community Theatres by Bruce Purdy 20. Re: Fundraising for Community Theatres by 21. Re: Fundraising for Community Theatres by Bruce Purdy 22. TD Position at Kansas State University by "Dan Culhane" 23. Re: Weight in Stage Drapes = Lead Tape vs. Chain by CB 24. Re: Class for civilians by CB 25. Re: Sketch Up by CB 26. Re: Weight in Stage Drapes = Lead Tape vs. Chain by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 27. Re: Sketch Up by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 28. Re: Sketch Up by "Don Taco" 29. Re: Weight in Stage Drapes = Lead Tape vs. Chain by Stuart Wheaton 30. Re: Bluetooth by john hauer 31. Re: U.S. FIRES IN SELECTED OCCUPANCIES by Eddie Kramer 32. Re: Weight in Stage Drapes = Lead Tape vs. Chain by "Bill Nelson" 33. Re: Weight in Stage Drapes = Lead Tape vs. Chain by "Bill Nelson" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <04ae01c66f67$e204fc50$6501a8c0 [at] ALFOFFICE> Reply-To: "Alf Sauve" From: "Alf Sauve" References:

Subject: Re: Safety Frames/Lighting Accessories Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 06:44:34 -0400 My old employer, Norcostco, sells fiberboard frames. Alf ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gibilisco" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 12:59 AM Subject: Safety Frames/Lighting Accessories > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Anyone have a source to supply flame resistant, fiberboard color frames? > > Best, > > John G > Omaha Playhouse > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bruce Purdy" > To: "Stagecraft" > Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 11:00 PM > Subject: Re: Fundraising for Community Theatres > > >> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >> --------------------------------------------------- >> >> Our biggest fund raising "Event" of the year is "Medley of Tastes". >> A lot of local wineries and restaurants set up tables to distribute >> sample >> sized portions. The college donates the use of a beautiful historic > building >> and grounds, and a tent company provides a large banquet type tent. >> >> A limited number of premium priced tickets are sold (Always sells >> out > a >> month or two in advance). >> >> Additionally, there is a table laid out with dozens of (Donated) > bottles >> of wine. People can buy a bottle (Their choice) for $20, and on the >> bottom >> of the bottle there is a number painted. They win a prize determined by > the >> number. Everyone that buys a bottle wins a prize, but they don't know >> what >> it'll be until they select the bottle. >> >> Guests are asked to fill out a ballot sheet, to vote for the best > wine, >> best food and best presentation, and an awards ceremony caps off the > event. >> The winners receive a plaque made by a local artist, and bragging rights > for >> the next year. >> >> The whole event has the feel of an exclusive cocktail party, and is >> extremely popular. >> >> Since all the labour comes from our large volunteer staff, and most >> everything is donated, it's a great money maker. We do spend a bit for >> souvenir wine glasses and snack trays with our logo and the year > imprinted. >> Each guest gets one each, and they become collector items. (Extras get > sold >> in our gift shop) >> >> Bruce >> -- >> Bruce Purdy >> Technical Director >> Smith Opera House >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4459EB85.4020303 [at] JosephCHansen.com> Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 07:54:45 -0400 From: Barney Simon Reply-To: Barney [at] JosephCHansen.com Organization: Joseph C Hansen Co., Inc Subject: OT - Okay, My Bad - IFR velour quote On Tuesday, a very nice potential customer from this stage craft list called and asked for some ball park prices of some IFR drapes. I did the pricing, but seem to have misplaced the notes before calling/emailing him back. They are probably attached to someone else's file, but I've cleaned my desk twice and cannot find them. If the gentleman could please contact me off list, I will not loose them this time. -- Barney Simon JC Hansen Co., Inc Drapes Drops and Dance Floors 423 West 43rd Street, NYC 212-246-8055 F:212-246-8189 JCHansen.com 866-988-8055 ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Fundraising for Community Theatres Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 08:26:37 -0400 Message-ID: From: I had been reading and deleting this thread until I came upon Bruce's recent note and it struck a chord. This is a phenomenal idea. Bruce, with your permission, I'm going to send it to the Exec Dir. of the Fredonia Opera House as a possible event idea. I don't think we are in competition for the same audience being about 2 hours away. We've got the same winery potential here as well - not exactly Finger Lakes, but good stuff nonetheless.=20 Steve Rees Secretary The 1891 Fredonia Opera House [Different Hat] P.S. Give my best to R.J. when you encounter him. SER -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Purdy Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 12:01 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Fundraising for Community Theatres For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Our biggest fund raising "Event" of the year is "Medley of Tastes". A lot of local wineries and restaurants set up tables to distribute sample sized portions. The college donates the use of a beautiful historic building and grounds, and a tent company provides a large banquet type tent. A limited number of premium priced tickets are sold (Always sells out a month or two in advance). Additionally, there is a table laid out with dozens of (Donated) bottles of wine. People can buy a bottle (Their choice) for $20, and on the bottom of the bottle there is a number painted. They win a prize determined by the number. Everyone that buys a bottle wins a prize, but they don't know what it'll be until they select the bottle. Guests are asked to fill out a ballot sheet, to vote for the best wine, best food and best presentation, and an awards ceremony caps off the event. The winners receive a plaque made by a local artist, and bragging rights for the next year. =20 The whole event has the feel of an exclusive cocktail party, and is extremely popular. Since all the labour comes from our large volunteer staff, and most everything is donated, it's a great money maker. We do spend a bit for souvenir wine glasses and snack trays with our logo and the year imprinted. Each guest gets one each, and they become collector items. (Extras get sold in our gift shop) Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001301c66f77$0d9e7e40$687ba8c0 [at] carl> Reply-To: "Carleton Underwood" From: "Carleton Underwood" References: Subject: Re: Fundraising for Community Theatres Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 08:34:14 -0400 We do something called an Audience Choice awards - we set up a pix and a box for each actor in the lobby and you vote on each person with money - at the end of the year, the actor that passively (unless he or she put money in for themselves) raised the most money on each show gets a paper "award". Often parents will put in money for their kid - it's income that we lump in with concessions and raffle money - right now we use it to pay down the debt we have for Air Conditioning. Money is money...... We didn't originate the idea, we borrowed it from a group in Columbus Ohio. - Carl Underwood Zanesville Community Theatre www.zct.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacqueline Haney Kidwell" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 11:07 PM Subject: Re: Fundraising for Community Theatres > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > A couple of other ideas for fundraising that I had > forgotten: > > Gilbert & Sullivan has name recognition, allows for > large enough casts to draw big audiences, and is > public domain (no royalties). 'HMS Pinafore', > 'Pirates of Penzance' and 'The Mikado' are the most > popular. Of those, 'Pirates' is the easiest to > costume, and allows for the inclusion of some younger > performers. 'Mikado' is my favorite, but you need all > those kimonos and wigs. > > Before air conditioning was installed in one local > theatre, one of the resident groups used to sell fans > imprinted "I'm a fan of The Country Players" at shows. > They were the kind of fan that used to be handed out > at funeral homes, that look like a paint stirrer with > a piece of cardboard attached. > > 50/50 raffles are big around here, though some towns > require a license to run them. Tshirts, mugs, > umbrellas. > > Is anyone doing anything really unusual? I'd love to > hear. > > Jacki > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 08:53:05 -0400 Subject: Re: Safety Frames/Lighting Accessories From: Steve Shelley Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Danielle die cut products Paterson NJ 973-278-3000 Ask them to send fax you the gel frame size list. I'm not certain that they are flame resistant but I have used them at ABT for years and at spoleto for years and the only time we had a problem was when we tried to use a regular 7.5" cardboard frame in a source 4 par. THAT ended badly for the frame. Other than that I have had no problems with danielle die cut products. Ask them about the flame resistant thing. They are WAY more inexpensive than the others. Shelley On 5/4/06 12:59 AM, "John Gibilisco" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Anyone have a source to supply flame resistant, fiberboard color frames? > > Best, > > John G > Omaha Playhouse > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bruce Purdy" > To: "Stagecraft" > Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 11:00 PM > Subject: Re: Fundraising for Community Theatres > > >> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >> --------------------------------------------------- >> >> Our biggest fund raising "Event" of the year is "Medley of Tastes". >> A lot of local wineries and restaurants set up tables to distribute sample >> sized portions. The college donates the use of a beautiful historic > building >> and grounds, and a tent company provides a large banquet type tent. >> >> A limited number of premium priced tickets are sold (Always sells out > a >> month or two in advance). >> >> Additionally, there is a table laid out with dozens of (Donated) > bottles >> of wine. People can buy a bottle (Their choice) for $20, and on the bottom >> of the bottle there is a number painted. They win a prize determined by > the >> number. Everyone that buys a bottle wins a prize, but they don't know what >> it'll be until they select the bottle. >> >> Guests are asked to fill out a ballot sheet, to vote for the best > wine, >> best food and best presentation, and an awards ceremony caps off the > event. >> The winners receive a plaque made by a local artist, and bragging rights > for >> the next year. >> >> The whole event has the feel of an exclusive cocktail party, and is >> extremely popular. >> >> Since all the labour comes from our large volunteer staff, and most >> everything is donated, it's a great money maker. We do spend a bit for >> souvenir wine glasses and snack trays with our logo and the year > imprinted. >> Each guest gets one each, and they become collector items. (Extras get > sold >> in our gift shop) >> >> Bruce >> -- >> Bruce Purdy >> Technical Director >> Smith Opera House >> >> >> > > -- Steve Shelley Ltg & Scenic Coordinator Spoleto Festival USA MrTemplate [at] Earthlink.net www.spoletousa.org Www.fieldtemplate.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20060504133802.61626.qmail [at] web38501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 06:38:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Jo Vandver Subject: Re: Fundraising for Community Theatres In-Reply-To: You know how you sell ads in the programs of each show? Well our theatre had the idea to make a booklette with information about the theatre and our upcoming season with lots and lots of ads in it to pass out to all of the local business. When you are sitting in the Drs office etc, there is our booklet to look at. It gets our info out there, and it is a great advertising tool for the businesses as well. Plus, we get to raise money from the ads. Jo Vandver Liberty County Playhouse --- Stephen.Rees [at] fredonia.edu wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > I had been reading and deleting this thread until I > came upon Bruce's > recent note and it struck a chord. This is a > phenomenal idea. Bruce, > with your permission, I'm going to send it to the > Exec Dir. of the > Fredonia Opera House as a possible event idea. I > don't think we are in > competition for the same audience being about 2 > hours away. We've got > the same winery potential here as well - not exactly > Finger Lakes, but > good stuff nonetheless. > > Steve Rees > Secretary > The 1891 Fredonia Opera House > [Different Hat] > > P.S. Give my best to R.J. when you encounter him. > > SER > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] > On Behalf Of Bruce > Purdy > Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 12:01 AM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Re: Fundraising for Community Theatres > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Our biggest fund raising "Event" of the year is > "Medley of Tastes". > A lot of local wineries and restaurants set up > tables to distribute > sample sized portions. The college donates the use > of a beautiful > historic building and grounds, and a tent company > provides a large > banquet type tent. > > A limited number of premium priced tickets are > sold (Always sells > out a month or two in advance). > > Additionally, there is a table laid out with > dozens of (Donated) > bottles of wine. People can buy a bottle (Their > choice) for $20, and on > the bottom of the bottle there is a number painted. > They win a prize > determined by the number. Everyone that buys a > bottle wins a prize, but > they don't know what it'll be until they select the > bottle. > > Guests are asked to fill out a ballot sheet, to > vote for the best > wine, best food and best presentation, and an awards > ceremony caps off > the event. > The winners receive a plaque made by a local artist, > and bragging rights > for the next year. > > The whole event has the feel of an exclusive > cocktail party, and is > extremely popular. > > Since all the labour comes from our large > volunteer staff, and most > everything is donated, it's a great money maker. We > do spend a bit for > souvenir wine glasses and snack trays with our logo > and the year > imprinted. > Each guest gets one each, and they become collector > items. (Extras get > sold in our gift shop) > > Bruce > -- > Bruce Purdy > Technical Director > Smith Opera House > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20060504134226.72633.qmail [at] web36209.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 06:42:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Jacqueline Haney Kidwell Subject: odd vehicles (OT except for LRLR) http://tinyurl.com/jdbw7 or http://www.impactlab.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=8077&mode=&order=0&thold=0 check out #4 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <24062.66.174.92.163.1146751042.squirrel [at] mail.vtventures.net> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 09:57:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Weight in Stage Drapes = Lead Tape vs. Chain From: "Carrie DePetris" Don't forget to let down the asbestos fire curtain to set the scene! What a fabulous date night... In all seriousness, HazMat training has taught me not to lick the lead or file it without a mask/vent hood. With that, you're good to go. - Carrie > > They're excellent with a little Worcestershire sauce and a hearty > Imperial stout to wash it all down. > > On 5/3/06, John McKernon wrote: >> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >> --------------------------------------------------- >> >> > I don't know if lead would be a direct health threat in a stage >> drapery, but >> > in general lead has a bad reputation (as far as I've seen, anyway). >> >> Yeah, and the next time I get the urge to nibble on some lead stage >> weights, >> remind me that it's probably not going to be good for me...;) >> >> - John > ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <6C172892-6B8D-40C0-B599-1C9BAD32E4B0 [at] dopher.com> From: "C. Dopher" Subject: Re: Weight in Stage Drapes = Lead Tape vs. Chain Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 10:39:27 -0400 This might be a silly question, but has anyone thought of making lead tapes for curtains but with some other metal? Steel? Pig iron? It might be a touch more expensive, but it'd still be a lot quieter than chain. Cris Dopher ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 10:49:35 -0400 Subject: Re: Weight in Stage Drapes = Lead Tape vs. Chain From: John McKernon Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > This might be a silly question, but has anyone thought of making lead > tapes for curtains but with some other metal? Steel? Pig iron? It > might be a touch more expensive, but it'd still be a lot quieter than > chain. They use lead because on because it's heavier and doesn't rust, so for things like Austrian drapes it's the best solution. For most other applications chain is preferable. - John ------------------------------ Message-ID: <445A1799.7080401 [at] JosephCHansen.com> Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 11:02:49 -0400 From: Barney Simon Reply-To: Barney [at] JosephCHansen.com Organization: Joseph C Hansen Co., Inc Subject: Re: Weight in Stage Drapes = Lead Tape vs. Chain References:

In-Reply-To: C. Dopher wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > This might be a silly question, but has anyone thought of making lead > tapes for curtains but with some other metal? Steel? Pig iron? It > might be a touch more expensive, but it'd still be a lot quieter than > chain. Actually, Baron Stage in Baltimore makes their own tape using steel washers. Betsy has invited me down to see the process, but I haven't had the time. -- Barney Simon JC Hansen Co., Inc Drapes Drops and Dance Floors 423 West 43rd Street, NYC 212-246-8055 F:212-246-8189 JCHansen.com 866-988-8055 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <445A1D9B.7060707 [at] raclapp.com> Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 11:28:27 -0400 From: Bob Organization: R. A. Clapp Associates, LLC Subject: Fundraising for Community Theatres If your seats are permanently installed -- sell them! Highest prices for the best seats, lower costs further back, etc. Each purchaser gets their name on a brass tag that is attached to the arm of the chair. Make it clear that this is a donation, and they are not buying a guaranteed seat for shows! I had a client with a small 500 seat auditorium do this a few years ago. They raised over $60,000, and still had some balcony seats left for sale. I think they started their prices at $500 down front, scaling back to around $200 in the balcony. Bob R.A.Clapp Associates, LLC Voice: 800-291-5757 Fax: 856-589-5757 Cell: 856-430-0731 ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Simple Drafting / Design software Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 09:31:54 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Michael Finney" Just a couple of comments on the whole Sketch-up discussion: I'm in the middle of a project with a large theme park company that shall remain nameless ('cause they make me sign all sorts of papers promising that I don't admit to working with them until after the show opens), and we've been going back and forth between Sketch-up and AutoCAD with very few headaches. Basically, the design team in the park is using Sketch-up as a visualization and illustration tool. It seems to be quite a bit quicker for them to get people up to speed on drawing in 3D on that platform, and they're *definitely* quicker about using it in meetings to make changes or create new elements. That may well be operator familiarity - my CAD guys are almost as fast. As far as communicating information back and forth between the two platforms - they started with a site map from me, created in AutoCAD. They then created a 3D model in Sketch-up of all the buildings and lake edges, and then started putting in the new show elements. From there, they've transferred it to some of their people via Sketch-up (with the free viewer), and outside to a major engineering firm (Oceaneering) and my group via AutoCAD. We've had a few color issues, but nothing major. We've been checking dimensions and such, and don't seem to have any issues (except where the original on either platform was drawn incorrectly...hey, over a couple of hundred meters I'm not surprised that we had a couple of missed dimensions...I *know* the survey that the drawings were created from was done quickly). Now, we're working with the professional version of Sketch-up and AutoCAD '04 (and newer).....so your mileage may vary! Back to an airport.... =20 Michael Finney Thinkwell Design & Production mfinney [at] thinkwelldesign.com www.thinkwelldesign.com =20 =20 ---------- This transmission is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately via email at brains [at] thinkwelldesign.com. Thank you. ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: "C. Dopher" Subject: One Material Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 12:36:20 -0400 Hi all. I'm looking for a single material that will do a decent silhouette as well as a good bleed-thru effect. I realize these are normally mutually exclusive, but I need to find something that does both. Any ideas? Cris Dopher, LD ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: One Material Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 12:43:58 -0400 Message-ID: <008901c66f99$f0e385c0$6601a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > I'm looking for a single material that will do a decent > silhouette as well as a good bleed-thru effect. I realize these are > normally mutually exclusive, but I need to find something that does > both. Any ideas? Try a loosely-woven cotton. ...And where have *you* been lately? ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20060504125626.0307a670 [at] postoffice8.mail.cornell.edu> Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 13:15:20 -0400 From: Ford Sellers Subject: Re: One Material In-Reply-To: References:

Cris, We're using some Fabric panels right now which do both, depending on the angle of the light hitting the target. One of the big problems is that when you can see through the material you can see the Source that you're using to make the ShadowPlay. We used Altman Focusing Cycs (single groundrow) for the silhoette, and toppy/front to make them opaque. Regular toplight worked for seeing through the material (bleedthrough). -Ford At 12:36 PM 5/4/2006, you wrote: >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > >Hi all. I'm looking for a single material that will do a decent >silhouette as well as a good bleed-thru effect. I realize these are >normally mutually exclusive, but I need to find something that does >both. Any ideas? > >Cris Dopher, LD ************************ Ford H Sellers Master Electrician Cornell University Schwartz Center for the Performing Arts 430 College Avenue Ithaca NY, 14850 (607) 254-2736 office (607) 254-2733 fax ------------------------------ Message-ID: <016b01c66f9e$5fdf3f60$6d01a8c0 [at] BCA1> Reply-To: "Bill Conner" From: "Bill Conner" Subject: U.S. FIRES IN SELECTED OCCUPANCIES Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 12:15:42 -0500 Just a few interesting statistics from a new NFPA report titled "U.S. FIRES IN SELECTED OCCUPANCIES" that states for the group of assembly occupancies which includes performing arts theatres (a sub-category of assembly that is called "variable use facilities such as ballrooms, gymnasiums, exhibition halls, arenas or stadiums; theaters or studios") that on the average there were 930 fires, 1 civilian casualty, 6 civilian injuries, and approx $11.9 million in property loss in all of the US. These are estimates based on data collected on incidents for the four year period of 1999 to 2002. Structure fires overall accounted for 517,000 fires, 3,140 civilian deaths, 17,730 civilian injuries, and $8,649 million in property loss. For all fires (adds vehicle, outside, and other) the estimated annual average is 1,738,000 fires, 3,680 civilian deaths, 20,730 civilian injuries, $10,086 million in property loss. Looking at just the group with theatres, only 26% of the fires were in structures that were sprinklered and the average property loss in those incidents was $6, 320 versus $30,490 in incidents in structures without theatres. "Intentionally set" covered 22%. Kitchen was the leading area of origin (at least 9% and maybe 13 or 14%). Trash or rubbish was leading item (10%) first ignited. Overall, I gather in a quick read there is greater than a 50% reduction in fires, deaths, injuries, and losses since 1980. And wouldn't you know it but the report mentions the Iroquois Theatre Fire. Lot's of interesting tidbits including time of day, time of year, and so on. A good 324 page read. As a member, I get for free. I don't know if I'm allowed to pass it on or not. One possible conclusion is you're doing a good job out there. Keep working hard at it and cut it in half again. Another is, you're safer locked in on your stage than at home by a huge factor. While I think the statistics are interesting and useful, I like to keep in mind that figures lie and liars figure. Bill C. ASTC, ETCP CR-T ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20060504132316.0305fb68 [at] postoffice8.mail.cornell.edu> Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 13:24:32 -0400 From: Ford Sellers Subject: Re: One Material In-Reply-To: References:

ADDENDUM...I'll find out the Make of the fabric and e-mail it this afternoon. -Ford At 01:15 PM 5/4/2006, you wrote: >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > >Cris, > > We're using some Fabric panels right now which do both, depending > on the angle of the light hitting the target. One of the big problems is > that when you can see through the material you can see the Source that > you're using to make the ShadowPlay. We used Altman Focusing Cycs > (single groundrow) for the silhoette, and toppy/front to make them > opaque. Regular toplight worked for seeing through the material (bleedthrough). >-Ford ************************ Ford H Sellers Master Electrician Cornell University Schwartz Center for the Performing Arts 430 College Avenue Ithaca NY, 14850 (607) 254-2736 office (607) 254-2733 fax ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 14:06:16 -0400 Subject: Re: Fundraising for Community Theatres From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Steve Rees wrote: > I had been reading and deleting this thread until I came upon Bruce's > recent note and it struck a chord. This is a phenomenal idea. Bruce, > with your permission, I'm going to send it to the Exec Dir. of the > Fredonia Opera House as a possible event idea. I don't think we are in > competition for the same audience being about 2 hours away. We've got > the same winery potential here as well - not exactly Finger Lakes, but > good stuff nonetheless. > Feel free to pass the info along. It's certainly not a totally unique fundraiser - An organisation in Auburn for instance holds "Taste of Auburn", but they do it on a *Much* smaller scale. Anyone can buy inexpensive tickets at the door, etc. By making the event an exclusive premium ticket event - with limited tickets sold - and the other bells and whistles I described, the whole thing is elevated to the "Social event of the season" level, and much more effective at raising funds. Be forewarned, coordinating an event like this does take a lot of work. My hat's off to Kelly (Our administrative coordinator) and her amazing volunteer staff! Also expect to start off smaller and build the event over time. Publicity and word of mouth will make it an event people look forward to whereas the first year out no one knows about it and it's a harder sell. Another advantage to limited ticketing (Besides making it "Exclusive" and special) with tickets sold in advance only, is that the wineries and restaurants know how many servings to prepare for. >P.S. Give my best to R.J. when you encounter him. I'll do that! Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Fundraising for Community Theatres Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 14:16:16 -0400 Message-ID: From: Thanks. We have a pretty good fundraising/events committee as a standing committee of the BoD. They are very well connected in the community and could pull off such an event w/o much effort. Will pass this on. Steve -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Purdy Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 2:06 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Fundraising for Community Theatres For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Feel free to pass the info along.=20 Bruce -- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 14:20:04 -0400 Subject: Re: Fundraising for Community Theatres From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Jo Vandver wrote: > > You know how you sell ads in the programs of each > show? Well our theatre had the idea to make a > booklette with information about the theatre and our > upcoming season with lots and lots of ads in it to > pass out to all of the local business. We do something along those lines, but on a smaller scale. Every two months we publish a newsletter "Stages", which features a calendar of events for the next two months. (As a rental / road house, that's as far out as we can go - short notice bookings come along all the time.) The newsletter is mailed free to members, and also distributed at businesses all over the region, and yes, ad sales are part of the mix. I like your idea of a generic "About the Theatre" booklet with ads though. I'll have to pass it along to the office. This has been a great thread full of wonderful ideas. Most of them are better suited for producing companies like those that rent our space than for facilities like ours, but this is one we might be able to use. I'm keeping most of the others for future reference though. You never know when they might come in handy! Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ From: "Dan Culhane" Cc: jsutd [at] ksu.edu, d.culhane [at] secoa.com (Dan Culhane) Subject: TD Position at Kansas State University Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 15:16:09 -0500 Organization: SECOA, Inc. Message-ID: <002901c66fb7$95cc4b90$b60101c0 [at] SECOA81> John Uthoff asked me to forward this to the list. If you have any questions, please refer them to John. Thank you and now back to your regularly scheduled "lead weights in drapes conversation", Dan Culhane d.culhane [at] secoa.com Temporary Assistant Professor/Technical Director - EXPEDITED SEARCH The Kansas State University Theatre Program is taking applications for the position of Temporary Assistant Professor/Technical Director for the 2006-2007 academic year. The search for a permanent TD will be made next year. The successful applicant may apply for the full-time position. The Theatre faculty consists of 11 full time positions, including a scene designer, costume designer, and a lighting/sound designer. Additional non-tenure track positions supervise both shops. The Theatre program uses three facilities - a 281 seat arena/thrust, a 1800 seat proscenium/road house with scene and costume shops, and a 100 seat studio theatre. Responsibilities include the engineering, implementation and installation of all scenic elements; drafting of shop drawings; supervision of shop supervisor and student running crews; scenery budget management; and construction scheduling. A high emphasis is placed on safety, quality workmanship, and time lines. Position is required to teach 4 courses a year, including Fundamentals of Technical Production. Other teaching depends on experience. MFA / PhD or equivalent professional experience is required. Salary is commensurate with experience and training. Please send a letter of application, academic vita or resume, and three current letters of recommendation to John S. Uthoff, Technical Director Search, 129 Nichols Hall, Speech Communication, Theatre & Dance, Manhattan, KS 66506-2301. Portfolios by request only. Screening will start ASAP, and continue until the position is filled. Kansas State University is an AA/EOE employer. K-State actively seeks diversity among its employees. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060504135932.00d339f8 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 13:59:32 From: CB Subject: RE: Weight in Stage Drapes = Lead Tape vs. Chain >>There are serious health concerns with lead in general, so methinks it >>would >>be prudent to avoid using it if there is a reasonable alternative.>> >There's something disturbing about vague threats like this one. It makes me >not believe the source. Let me help you out: "I've heard so much negative about handling lead from sources that I trust that when I have the opportunity to replace my lead use possibilities I prefer to use something with a better reputation." It is prudent, in my opinion, to use something that doesn't have the possible problems that lead presents. Whether those be health problems; health problems of those handling the materials fifteen years from now; or the concerns of the PTB, parents, colleagues, etc, today. Avoiding potential problems with 'reasonable alternatives' is safety concious, time saving, money saving, and reduces headache. Makes you look slimmer, too. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060504141047.00d339f8 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 14:10:47 From: CB Subject: Re: Class for civilians >The group I was >referring to wouldn't even qualify as amateur performers - they were just >kids doing it for fun, and didn't really care if it sucked. In fact I >suspect that they expected it to! Keep the pit up and the safety rope up, house lights at half, pull most of the soft goods up to above head height, works on stage, and the floor clear. Shoot, if they don't care any more than that, I dunno why you should. You can lead a horse on stage, but you can't mak him tap. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060504141616.00d339f8 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 14:16:16 From: CB Subject: Re: Sketch Up >Who is this 'he'? I am both the LD and the Master Electrician. And few >directors have time to spend in the bar, with or without laptops. I wish more did, The person that you were addressing about the SketchUp softwa... nevermind... Hey, Frank. Instead of telling us how things work in your theatre (and seemingly, in your theatre alone) give us a similar dissertation on how you think it works the rest of the world 'round. It would be so most helpful in addressing your posts if we knew just how you think the rest of us are doing things. I'm pretty sure we have your situation fairly well sussed out. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <23f.abdbae8.318bd7d7 [at] aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 18:19:03 EDT Subject: Re: Weight in Stage Drapes = Lead Tape vs. Chain In a message dated 04/05/06 21:54:04 GMT Daylight Time, psyd [at] cox.net writes: > Let me help you out: "I've heard so much negative about handling lead from > sources that I trust that when I have the opportunity to replace my lead > use possibilities I prefer to use something with a better reputation." It > is prudent, in my opinion, to use something that doesn't have the possible > problems that lead presents. Whether those be health problems; health > problems of those handling the materials fifteen years from now; or the > concerns of the PTB, parents, colleagues, etc, today. Avoiding potential > problems with 'reasonable alternatives' is safety concious, time saving, > money saving, and reduces headache. Makes you look slimmer, too. Go on I'll add in my sixpennorth too. First, bulk lead, as in builders flashings, church roofs, old water pipes, and even the weights in my old long-case clock. I see no hazard at all. Once you take a saw to it, there are potential problems. But this is seldom needed, as it is soft and easy enough to cut with snips. Curtain weights are included in this. Second, solder. Lead and its alloys melt at about 350C, the exact temperature depending on the alloy. It vapourises at about 1,500C, which is well beyond any soldering iron I have ever used. The problem with cored solder is the vapours from the flux cores. These are often unpleasant, But I don't know how toxic they are. Even so, it's not a lead problem. I know that there is a movement afoot to ban lead alloy solders. This should be resisted. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <235.ac1c573.318bdb69 [at] aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 18:34:17 EDT Subject: Re: Sketch Up In a message dated 04/05/06 22:10:58 GMT Daylight Time, psyd [at] cox.net writes: > Hey, Frank. Instead of telling us how things work in your theatre (and > seemingly, in your theatre alone) give us a similar dissertation on how you > think it works the rest of the world 'round. It would be so most helpful > in addressing your posts if we knew just how you think the rest of us are > doing things. I'm pretty sure we have your situation fairly well sussed out. > Fair enough. I think that you have more strongly demarcated jobs, whether by custom or by IATSE. In a word, job definitions. As I see your way, as LD, I sit in the house with the director, and if he is not happy with something, I call in the electrics crew to do what I think is neded to solve the problem. This may mean getting out a cherry-picker, or flying in a bar. It's a way to work. That's the way I see most of you working. This is not my way. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <043401c66fd4$08e60500$e28aaa43 [at] DonTaco> From: "Don Taco" References: Subject: Re: Sketch Up Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 16:39:47 -0700 > Fair enough. I think that you have more strongly demarcated jobs, whether > by > custom or by IATSE. In a word, job definitions. As I see your way, as LD, > I > sit in the house with the director, and if he is not happy with something, > I > call in the electrics crew to do what I think is neded to solve the > problem. > This may mean getting out a cherry-picker, or flying in a bar. It's a way > to > work. That's the way I see most of you working. > > This is not my way. > > > Frank Wood > Well, not one word of this describes the situation at any of the four theatres I worked at so far this year. So, 0 for 4, so far. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <445A981F.2010302 [at] fuse.net> Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 20:11:11 -0400 From: Stuart Wheaton Reply-To: sdwheaton [at] fuse.net Subject: Re: Weight in Stage Drapes = Lead Tape vs. Chain References: In-Reply-To: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: > Second, solder. Lead and its alloys melt at about 350C, the exact temperature > depending on the alloy. It vapourises at about 1,500C, which is well beyond > any soldering iron I have ever used. The problem with cored solder is the > vapours from the flux cores. Nope, it's with the lead. it doesn't vapourise, it just rubs off on your fingers as you pull it off the spool, and as you stretch it to help it hold it's shape. Then you eat, or drink, or smoke and the lead moves into your mouth and into your body. > I know that there is a movement afoot to ban lead alloy solders. This should > be resisted. > Proper hygiene will go a long way toward keeping you safe, but if the substitutes are as good as lead I don't have any trouble with it. Stuart ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20060505003731.87198.qmail [at] web50507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 17:37:31 -0700 (PDT) From: john hauer Subject: Re: Bluetooth In-Reply-To: This is turning into an interesting thread for me. I have been trying to find that tech who originally caused my RF -- to find out what phone she had. If I had to guess I would guess that it must have been a razor. Our noise (as I rememeber it) was an irregular series of obnoxious blasts. Kind of like a gutteral sound you can make with your throat, but higher broader in spectrum. It played over an older wired analog clearcom. I must say that I do get more noise these days. We spend a good amount of time finding the offending sources - or not. All kinds of noise can enter equipment that has worked well for years. Sound amps, preamps, clearcom, video -- whatever. I have not logged any of this. It usually goes down like -- "What the H*** is that noise?" "OK, start turning things off." When we locate or isolate the problem it is removed and we move onward with the moto "can't do that any more." We don't have outside clients to please. Thanks for your input - thsose of you who have done so. John __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 23:17:40 -0400 From: Eddie Kramer Subject: Re: U.S. FIRES IN SELECTED OCCUPANCIES On 5/4/06 Bill Conner sent: >And wouldn't you know it but the report mentions the Iroquois Theatre Fire. From the report; *** NFPA> Although fatal fires in these properties are relatively rare, NFPA> the potential life safety hazard is high. The second deadliest NFPA> single-building fire in U.S. history was a theater fire - the NFPA> 1903 Iroquois Theater Fire in Chicago that killed 602 people. NFPA> The 1944 Ringling Brothers Barnum and Bailey Circus fire in NFPA> Hartford, Connecticut claimed 168 victims. The 1990 Happy Land NFPA> Social Club fire in New York City killed 87 people. The 1998 NFPA> dance hall fire in Gothenburg, Sweden, killed 63 people. NFPA> Because of the devastating potential of a single large fire in NFPA> a crowded place of assembly, careful adherence to fire NFPA> prevention and fire protection practices is essential. *** Please go back and reread the last sentence in the quote above. Bill- Thank you for finding this. Eddie -- -------------------- Eddie Kramer IATSE #1 Member NEC Panel 15 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1140.64.28.53.69.1146810447.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 23:27:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Weight in Stage Drapes = Lead Tape vs. Chain From: "Bill Nelson" > This might be a silly question, but has anyone thought of making lead > tapes for curtains but with some other metal? Steel? Pig iron? It > might be a touch more expensive, but it'd still be a lot quieter than > chain. But, it would no longer be a lead tape. Besides the density, another advantage of a long thin round lead cylinder is that it bends easily - meaning it conforms to irregularities in the stage quite well. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1201.64.28.53.69.1146812008.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 23:53:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Weight in Stage Drapes = Lead Tape vs. Chain From: "Bill Nelson" > any soldering iron I have ever used. The problem with cored solder is the > vapours from the flux cores. These are often unpleasant, But I don't know > how toxic they are. Even so, it's not a lead problem. I know a number of techs who, over time, started getting nosebleeds from the flux vapors. The problem went away with better ventilation over the soldering stations. Bill ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #795 *****************************