Return-Path: X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 30179375; Sat, 13 May 2006 03:02:44 -0700 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.6 required=5.0 tests=ADVANCE_FEE_1,AWL,BAYES_00, NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=unavailable version=3.1.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on localhost X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #806 Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 03:01:06 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #806 1. Cats Moon Design by "Dana Taylor" 2. Re: EFX PLUS 2 by "Andrew Nikel" 3. Re: Ruler tape by Steve Shelley 4. Re: Cats Moon Design by Kevin Lee Allen 5. Fly system at Beloit Memorial High School by "Peter Scheu" 6. Re: Cats Moon Design by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 7. Re: Cats Moon Design by IAEG [at] aol.com 8. Re: Ruler tape by Stephen Litterst 9. Re: Hammers by "Paul Guncheon" 10. SASL meeting (was: Re: tshirt hell...) by Michael Sorensen 11. Re: Ruler tape by "David Bowman" 12. Re: Ruler tape by Barney Simon 13. Re: Hammers by Clive Mitchell 14. Re: ...A mans Job by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 15. Re: Hammers by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 16. Re: ...A mans Job by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 17. Re: Fly system at Beloit Memorial High School by Bill Sapsis 18. Re: ...A mans Job by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 19. Re: designs on recent works by 20. Re: new job titles... by 21. AV company in the Indianapolis area by "Abby Downing" 22. Re: AV company in the Indianapolis area by "Curtis L. Mortimore" 23. Re: designs on recent works by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 24. Re: designs on recent works by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 25. Re: designs on recent works by MissWisc [at] aol.com 26. Re: designs on recent works by Jerry Durand 27. Re: AV company in the Indianapolis area by "RD" 28. Re: Hammers by Stuart Wheaton 29. Re: designs on recent works by Stuart Wheaton 30. Re: Hammers by "Josh Ratty" 31. Re: Hammers by rwhitco [at] comcast.net (Randy Whitcomb) 32. Re: Hammers by "Don Taco" 33. Attending a rock concert was Re: designs on recent works by "Idaho Scenic & Rigging" 34. Re: Hammers by "Idaho Scenic & Rigging" 35. Re: Attending a rock concert was Re: designs on recent works by Bruce Purdy *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-Id: Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 06:32:33 -0500 From: "Dana Taylor" Subject: Cats Moon Design Hello: I have been asked to do the lighting design for a production of "Cats". At = a directors meeting last night, the stage director asked about the moon = and clouds which appeared in the original production. My question, was = this a scenic element or a lighting element? In either instance, do you know how it was done. We = will then talk with them about the intellectual property and/or copyright = issues. Thanks, Dana Taylor =20 Dana W. Taylor Mt. Vernon Sr. High School 812.838.4356 ------------------------------ From: "Andrew Nikel" Cc: tiptd [at] theatreinthepark.com Subject: Re: EFX PLUS 2 Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 07:43:22 -0400 Message-ID: Dear Steve - Well, I like it but I'm admittedly biased. ;-) We were working on a database of Quicktime videos of different discs - I'll see if we have anything on snow I can e-mail you. Another option may be to set up a demo for you through a local dealer - that way you can mock it up and get a real feel for it. Please let me know if that's something you would like to pursue. Best, Andrew Andrew Nikel - Sales Manager City Theatrical, Inc. 752 East 133rd Street, Bronx, NY 10454 Voice: 718-292-7932 x23, Fax: 718-292-7482 email: anikel [at] citytheatrical.com web: www.citytheatrical.com >Anyone out there used an EFX Plus 2 with a Source 4? ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 07:56:05 -0400 Subject: Re: Ruler tape From: Steve Shelley Message-ID: In-Reply-To: I've been searching for this stuff for years, tried to get city theatrical interested some years ago. Would be a godsend to measure out sheave wells... On 5/11/06 10:29 PM, "Dave Marks" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I'm looking in all the wrong places.... > I'm looking for adhesive ruler tape, hopefully 1 1/2 inch wide x 30 > feet, on a roll, to mark out our deck. > For some reason, my brain won't engage and remind me where I bought this > the last time. > > Dave Marks > Peoria, IL -- Steve Shelley Ltg & Scenic Coordinator Spoleto Festival USA (843) 720-1140 prod office (843) 724-1195 fax MrTemplate [at] Earthlink.net www.spoletousa.org Www.fieldtemplate.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 07:56:10 -0400 From: Kevin Lee Allen Subject: Re: Cats Moon Design In-reply-to: Message-id: References: If memory serves (yuk, yuk) it was both. In any case, the action =20 takes place at night, so the moon is a logical light source. The =20 script might even refer to moonlight. On May 12, 2006, at 7:32 AM, Dana Taylor wrote: > I have been asked to do the lighting design for a production of =20 > "Cats". At a directors meeting last night, the stage director asked =20= > about the moon and clouds which appeared in the original =20 > production. My question, was this a scenic element or > a lighting element? In either instance, do you know how it was =20 > done. We will then talk with them about the intellectual property =20 > and/or copyright issues. ----- Kevin Lee Allen Architect of Dreams http://www.klad.com 973.744.6352.voice 201.280.3841.mobile klad [at] klad.com =F0 ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Peter Scheu" Subject: Fly system at Beloit Memorial High School Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 08:37:30 -0400 Organization: Scheu Consulting Services, Inc. Message-ID: Some of you may remember that a while back I had passed on a request = from a group at a Wisconsin high school that was fighting the PTB for = replacement their stage rigging systems. They were looking for testimonials about = the importance and viability of HS performing arts programs. Some of you = were very gracious and stepped up to send Greg your stories. Well, I guess it helped. See the e-mail below I received this morning. = To those who sent stories, thanks. Peter Scheu =20 Scheu Consulting Services, Inc. Syracuse, NY www.scheuconsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: Gregory Wallendal [mailto:gwallend [at] sdb.k12.wi.us]=20 Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 4:02 AM Subject: Fly system at Beloit Memorial High School Dear advocates, After a year and a half of screaming my head off about the importance of = a fly system in our school, begging the district to fund the renovation, fundraising, starting a parent advocacy group, and writing letters, we = were successful! The school district is going to fund the rigging of our = theater. I want to thank each and every one of you for your support and advocacy. = The performing arts are essential to the success of our students and a = proper facility is instrumental to their success. Whether they are band, choir, dance, theatre, or just crossing the stage to receive their senior = award, every student in the district and community benefits from our stage, and those who benefit continue to grow and become integral members of our society (a person's a person no matter how small, you know). Thank you for your letters, your time, and your support. We finally did = it and your efforts were key to demonstrating the community's concern for = our childrens' futures. Read the article about our success, it was on the = Front Page of the Beloit Daily News on Wednesday, 5-10-06: http://www.beloitdailynews.com/articles/2006/05/10/news/news05.txt Our rigging is scheduled to be installed sometime this summer, upon = official approval of the school board on May 23rd. In the meantime, we can relish = in the fact that not only did we succeed in getting the rigging replaced, = but we also bolstered the performing arts advocates around the country to = stand up for what really matters: a program that builds connections and = fosters lifelong learning in such diverse ways that simply cannot be measured by = a standardized test. During our campaign we received testimonials from = New York, Kansas, California, as well as many other far reaching locations advocating the importance of basic theater technology, responsibility, = and community action. All of you are my hero. Please continue to keep an eye on our theater's progress through our website,=20 http://www.sdb.k12.wi.us/memorial/theatre/ Yes, we have succeeded in our immediate task, but our advocacy for the = arts will not diminish. As is true in many movements, apathy grows. This will = not happen within this group. Our charter is to continue to advocate for = the arts and push for further advances in the community and our schools--the connection I make with my students is the most important of all--we will continue to fundraise and continue to advocate, and continue to make the connection between performing arts in our schools and both personal = success and the success of the community as a whole when a cultural program such = as theatre is given proper recognition. Again, thank you for everything you do. Greg Wallendal Beloit Memorial High School Theater Director ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Cats Moon Design Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 09:03:34 -0400 Message-ID: <008101c675c4$79fdbdf0$6601a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > If memory serves (yuk, yuk) it was both. In any case, the action > takes place at night, so the moon is a logical light source. The > script might even refer to moonlight. ...And if the reason for wanting the moon is as cited above, then it's a valid approach; if the reason is, "because that's how they did it on Broadway," then it's not. ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <413.1797801.3195e21c [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 09:05:32 EDT Subject: Re: Cats Moon Design In a message dated 5/12/06 9:04:23 AM, stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com writes: << > If memory serves (yuk, yuk) it was both. In any case, the action > takes place at night, so the moon is a logical light source. The > script might even refer to moonlight. ...And if the reason for wanting the moon is as cited above, then it's a valid approach; if the reason is, "because that's how they did it on Broadway," then it's not. >> isn't "MOONLIGHT" in the "Memory" refrain? best regards, Keith Arsenault International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, FL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 11:02:23 -0400 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: Ruler tape In-reply-to: Message-id: <4464A37F.30302 [at] ithaca.edu> References: Steve Shelley wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I've been searching for this stuff for years, tried to get city theatrical > interested some years ago. Would be a godsend to measure out sheave wells... Woodworker's Warehouse or almost any other woodworking supply store/website. A google on "Adhesive measuring tape" yields 1.1 million hits, some of which are pretty useful. Steve L. -- Stephen Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College, Theatre Arts 607.274.3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000d01c675d5$16b2ac90$0202a8c0 [at] HUNKACRAP> From: "Paul Guncheon" References: Subject: Re: Hammers Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 05:02:28 -1000 <> erm... no. My experience with Paslode is that while they great when they work, they are quite temperamental. In addition, they are rather expensive to use. While Paslode claims the gun will sink 1500+ nails with each $9.00 tank of gas, my gun will only do about 500, if that. Air guns are faster as well. Also, repair technicians for Paslode charged $120.00 ($2.00 / minute) for repairs. This was 10 years ago. Air will also power a variety of guns that Paslode doesn't make. Never heard of "Spit". Laters, Paul "Paint it blue again," Tom said reassuringly. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20060512153550.52474.qmail [at] web50710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 08:35:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Sorensen Subject: SASL meeting (was: Re: tshirt hell...) In-Reply-To: <wrote: Subject: SASL meeting (was: Re: tshirt hell...) >>Nimbus Brewery, >anyone? FYI, I live down in Rita Ranch, >So, should we have a SASL meeting at the official brewery of the Southern Arizona Stagecraft Listers? How many would be interested? What if Mike is buying the first round? What if I buy the second? Oh, and Michael, why didn't you want to live in Tucson? Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ I've got the first round covered! And why don't I live in Tucson proper? Lemme 'splain: #1: Better schools for my kids, #2 Bigger and newer house for the money, and #3 my wife works at the Raytheon plant out by the airport. Next weekend (19-21) works well, but weekend after I've got inlaws in town (I'll probably need a drink that weekend!!) Michael Sorensen Proton Lighting and Video "We positively charge up your show!" Phone: 520-232-3540 Email: chaoscon666 [at] yahoo.com "It's all just a scam, isn't it? You get those actors to put on a show, just so you can have a good reason to play with your toys." --Christopher Stasheff, "A Slight Detour" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 12:01:55 -0400 From: "David Bowman" Cc: dave.marks [at] insightbb.com Subject: Re: Ruler tape Dave (et all), Back when I worked at Production Advantage (95-99) they had it in stock on = the shelf. I'm pretty sure it was a ProTapes product so if they don't have = it now, they can get it.... On their website it's called Measurement Tape (part # PPMT) It's =BD" x = 50 yrds www.producttionadvantageonline.com or 1-800-424-9991 dave B. David M. Bowman Syracuse Stage / SU Drama Master Electrician / Adj. Professor dmbowman [at] syr.edu Dolor Temporarius... Gloria Aeterna.... Cicatrices Virgines Placent! >>> dave.marks [at] insightbb.com 5/11/2006 10:29 PM >>> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- I'm looking in all the wrong places.... I'm looking for adhesive ruler tape, hopefully 1 1/2 inch wide x 30=20 feet, on a roll, to mark out our deck. For some reason, my brain won't engage and remind me where I bought = this=20 the last time. Dave Marks Peoria, IL ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4464BCB2.3060402 [at] JosephCHansen.com> Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 12:49:54 -0400 From: Barney Simon Reply-To: Barney [at] JosephCHansen.com Organization: Joseph C Hansen Co., Inc Subject: Re: Ruler tape References: In-Reply-To: Stephen Litterst wrote: > A google on "Adhesive measuring tape" yields 1.1 million hits, some > of which are pretty useful. Wow, I never would have thought to actually USE Google, and I guess that you suspect that Mr. Marks might never have either. How do you use your Google searches? Do you get the warm personal interaction and feedback there that get here? Did it narrow the search down to the personal recommendation of "Woodworker's Warehouse" or is that your personal touch? When I want a cold, impersonal, computer generated list of potentially useful websites, I personally use Copernic Agent. It uses about 15 search engines, compiles the result, combines duplicates, ranks them, eliminates dead links, gives me a preview screen shot, and eliminates all those pesky ads. It also allows me to specify which country I am interested in searching - looking for that audio vendor in Turkey? Unfortunately it does not recognize mirror sites. You've seen them, the ones that all look exactly the same but have different vendor names? But I guess you cannot have everything. -- Barney Simon ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 17:55:02 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: Hammers References: In-Reply-To: In message , Dale Farmer writes >True, but those non-refillable fuel cylinders add up fast, and are >often not interchangeable with others. Granted on a construction site, >the economics change a bit, but in a scene shop, compressed air is >already there, and the tools generally last longer. The fuel cylinders seem to come with each box of nails. -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <26e.a40bf9a.31961f61 [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 13:26:57 EDT Subject: Re: ...A mans Job In a message dated 12/05/06 02:40:42 GMT Daylight Time,=20 normanlazarus [at] yahoo.com writes: > =E2=80=9CIf I have dealings with an orthodox Jew, I=20 > shall=3D20 > avoid the Sabbath, out of courtesy.=E2=80=9D > =20 > Please don=E2=80=99t patronize me, no Orthodox or Conservative > Jew is going to do business on the Sabbath. Believe me, I had no intention of being patronising. Nor do I see how the=20 statement you quote can be construed as such. There are some very strict=20 sabbatarian sects of Christianity, and I should treat them with the same cou= rtesy.=20 > =20 > =20 > Please Frank, please, just let it go. I know from past > posts you feel you have to be right. Your conceptions > about Jews and Judaism are very misinformed, just > stop. I'm afraid that I can't. You claim that I am misinformed: what have I posted= =20 that is wrong? The clustering round the Synagogue is an observable fact in=20 some parts of London,=20 as is the distinctive dress of the Hasidim, which is also often to be seen i= n=20 Antwerp. Enlighten me, off list if you wish. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <270.a49a0c0.31962061 [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 13:31:13 EDT Subject: Re: Hammers In a message dated 12/05/06 03:21:15 GMT Daylight Time, dale [at] cybercom.net writes: > True, but those non-refillable fuel cylinders add up fast, and are often > not interchangeable with others. Granted on a construction site, the > economics change a bit, but in a scene shop, compressed air is already > there, and the tools generally last longer. It may be there, or not. And hammers are practically immortal, apart from the difficulty of obtaining hafts for special purpose ones. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: ...A mans Job Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 13:35:38 -0400 Message-ID: <00d101c675ea$7c4ebd90$6601a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > You claim that I am misinformed: Frank? Misinformed? Might as well claim that the sun rises in the east. > that is wrong? The clustering round the Synagogue is an > observable fact in > some parts of London, Your error is in attributing that to Jewish behavior, as opposed to its being the behavior of some Jews. But tell us again the difference between Jews and English. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 13:49:21 -0400 Subject: Re: Fly system at Beloit Memorial High School From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Congrats on the news but I gotta tell you that getting a rigging system designed, built and installed by the end of this summer ain't going to be easy. Not one that's right, that is. If I can be of assistance... Bill S ETCP Certified Rigger - Theatre www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 267.278.4561 mobile Join the Long Reach Long Riders on their 3rd annual cross country charity motorcycle ride. On 5/12/06 8:37 AM, "Peter Scheu" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Some of you may remember that a while back I had passed on a request from a > group at a Wisconsin high school that was fighting the PTB for replacement > their stage rigging systems. They were looking for testimonials about the > importance and viability of HS performing arts programs. Some of you were > very gracious and stepped up to send Greg your stories. > > Well, I guess it helped. See the e-mail below I received this morning. To > those who sent stories, thanks. > > Peter Scheu > > Scheu Consulting Services, Inc. > Syracuse, NY > www.scheuconsulting.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gregory Wallendal [mailto:gwallend [at] sdb.k12.wi.us] > Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 4:02 AM > Subject: Fly system at Beloit Memorial High School > > > Dear advocates, > > After a year and a half of screaming my head off about the importance of a > fly system in our school, begging the district to fund the renovation, > fundraising, starting a parent advocacy group, and writing letters, we were > successful! The school district is going to fund the rigging of our theater. > I want to thank each and every one of you for your support and advocacy. The > performing arts are essential to the success of our students and a proper > facility is instrumental to their success. Whether they are band, choir, > dance, theatre, or just crossing the stage to receive their senior award, > every student in the district and community benefits from our stage, and > those who benefit continue to grow and become integral members of our > society (a person's a person no matter how small, you know). > > Thank you for your letters, your time, and your support. We finally did it > and your efforts were key to demonstrating the community's concern for our > childrens' futures. Read the article about our success, it was on the Front > Page of the Beloit Daily News on Wednesday, 5-10-06: > > http://www.beloitdailynews.com/articles/2006/05/10/news/news05.txt > > Our rigging is scheduled to be installed sometime this summer, upon official > approval of the school board on May 23rd. In the meantime, we can relish in > the fact that not only did we succeed in getting the rigging replaced, but > we also bolstered the performing arts advocates around the country to stand > up for what really matters: a program that builds connections and fosters > lifelong learning in such diverse ways that simply cannot be measured by a > standardized test. During our campaign we received testimonials from New > York, Kansas, California, as well as many other far reaching locations > advocating the importance of basic theater technology, responsibility, and > community action. > > All of you are my hero. Please continue to keep an eye on our theater's > progress through our website, > > http://www.sdb.k12.wi.us/memorial/theatre/ > > Yes, we have succeeded in our immediate task, but our advocacy for the arts > will not diminish. As is true in many movements, apathy grows. This will not > happen within this group. Our charter is to continue to advocate for the > arts and push for further advances in the community and our schools--the > connection I make with my students is the most important of all--we will > continue to fundraise and continue to advocate, and continue to make the > connection between performing arts in our schools and both personal success > and the success of the community as a whole when a cultural program such as > theatre is given proper recognition. > > Again, thank you for everything you do. > > Greg Wallendal > Beloit Memorial High School > Theater Director > ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <317.4e6c0fd.31962a92 [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 14:14:42 EDT Subject: Re: ...A mans Job In a message dated 12/05/06 18:36:26 GMT Daylight Time, stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com writes: > Frank? Misinformed? Might as well claim that the sun rises in the east. Well, it does. But my information sources are no better than yours, in general. Different, maybe, and neither of us is in a position to impute absolute authority to any of them. I exclude serious textbooks, such as those I used at university. > > Your error is in attributing that to Jewish behavior, as opposed to its > being the behavior of some Jews. > > But tell us again the difference between Jews and English. There are two fields. These are complicated by sectarian differences, on both sites. I shall not presume to define them, but they show in different ways of behaving. Most of them derive from the Pentateuch, the Five books of Moses, modified by many centuries of living with one's neighbour. The Jews have a long history of persecution, from the Spanish Inquisition to the more recent pogroms in Russia and Poland, culminating in the Holocaust. I think that this has conditioned them, in general, to a feeling of insecurity. Many times they have felt secure in a place, and then the political climate has changed. This is perhaps why the Israelis are so aggressive. There was a song we sang at my university of which the refrain ran: "We wont, we won't, we won't be bu**ered about". Now that they have achieved the military power to ensure this, I can understand their attitude. Ever since the Diaspora, this is what has happened to them. They don't want it to come back. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <19883037.1147460365583.JavaMail.root [at] fed1wml09.mgt.cox.net> Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 11:59:25 -0700 From: Subject: Re: designs on recent works >> more or less over the conductor's head, and do little else. > The "Conductor"??? What type of concert do you suppose Chris is working > on, Frank? I may be mistaken myself, but I'd bet that the type of bands > he's > dealing with don't have a "Conductor"! ;-) > Have you seen these concerts? The one in the striped denim hat is the > Conductor.' The one in the Stetson is the 'Cowboy,' the one in the hard > hat is the 'Steelworker,' and so on. Actually, the one in the power tie and the grey suit is the 'Lawyer', nad the one in the smart suit-dress is the 'Lawyer', and the one on the other power tie and the blue suit is the 'Lawyer'. Neither here nor there, but I did get to put 'Capitol Steps' in the room, and since I wasn't three blocks from the actual steps of the Capitol Building, it was kind of appropriate. CB OTR ------------------------------ Message-ID: <667898.1147460751160.JavaMail.root [at] fed1wml09.mgt.cox.net> Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 12:05:51 -0700 From: Subject: Re: new job titles... >> I prefer the job titles "Head Flunky", "Squint", and "HumHead". > You left out, 'Dreaded Overlord.' > One show I worked some years ago, one of my job titles was Power > Broker. My title for a 'WWF' gig (just before they had to change due to the World Wildlife Fund pointing out that the moniker was already in use) was'Coke Wrangler'. CB OTR ------------------------------ Subject: AV company in the Indianapolis area Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 16:28:03 -0400 Message-ID: <7AE59BA9B8D15D4787EB1C7A2DB6DFBA30E163 [at] jekyll-sbs.ollsi.local> From: "Abby Downing" Hello all, The security consulting firm my father works for is looking to permanently install a screen/projector, or an LCD monitor to display a some sort of looped program of their projects to display to their incoming guests. Since I'm a lighting geek, and live a couple hours away from him, I want to refer him to someone who is close and knowledgeable. =20 Can anyone refer me to a company(ies) local to Indianapolis, IN and surrounding area that do this type of thing? Thanks! Abby ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 17:38:29 -0400 Subject: Re: AV company in the Indianapolis area From: "Curtis L. Mortimore" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Abby, I have been doing business with Shoemaker Motion Picture Company who is based in Indianapolis. I have dealt with Chris Rohn and have nothing but good things to say about the service and support I have gotten from Chris and Shoemaker. Their website is: http://www.shoemakerav.com/ I don't want to speak for them but my guess is they will have solutions for your needs. Safe travels. -- Curtis L. Mortimore Technical Director Ball State University Department of Theatre and Dance Muncie, IN 47306 765-285-8750 > From: Abby Downing > Reply-To: Stagecraft > Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 16:28:03 -0400 > To: Stagecraft > Subject: AV company in the Indianapolis area > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hello all, > > The security consulting firm my father works for is looking to > permanently install a screen/projector, or an LCD monitor to display a > some sort of looped program of their projects to display to their > incoming guests. Since I'm a lighting geek, and live a couple hours > away from him, I want to refer him to someone who is close and > knowledgeable. > > Can anyone refer me to a company(ies) local to Indianapolis, IN and > surrounding area that do this type of thing? > > Thanks! > Abby ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <46e.7e280.31966550 [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 18:25:20 EDT Subject: Re: designs on recent works In a message dated 12/05/06 20:00:21 GMT Daylight Time, psyd [at] cox.net writes: > Actually, the one in the power tie and the grey suit is the 'Lawyer', nad the > one in the smart suit-dress is the 'Lawyer', and the one on the other power > tie and the blue suit is the 'Lawyer'. Neither here nor there, but I did get > to put 'Capitol Steps' in the room, and since I wasn't three blocks from the > actual steps of the Capitol Building, it was kind of appropriate. Well, no. He's the guy in the white tie and tails standing on a podium in front of the orchestra, and directing them. How he does it, I don't know, but all the good ones manage it. I think that my ideas on concerts are different from yours, mostly. And on sound recording, too. As far as I am any sort of a musician, I lean to the clssics. I should not dream of attending a rock concert. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: designs on recent works Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 18:39:42 -0400 Message-ID: <014a01c67614$f69bd8b0$6601a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > I should not dream of attending a rock concert. As an amateur, you have that option. As professionals, many of us often find ourselves working in genres of which we are not fond...and we have to find a way to do it well. ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <36c.40c2d25.31966a39 [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 18:46:17 EDT Subject: Re: designs on recent works FrankWood95 [at] aol.com writes: He's the guy in the white tie and tails standing on a podium in front of the orchestra, and directing them. How he does it, I don't know, but all the good ones manage it. It's easy... just wave your pointer finger in the following pattern: floor door window cieling. (I kid you not... had a conducting teacher who taught us with that pattern.) :) Kristi ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 15:51:51 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: designs on recent works In-reply-to: Message-id: <7.0.1.0.0.20060512155011.01fc6728 [at] interstellar.com> References: At 03:46 PM 5/12/2006, you wrote: >It's easy... just wave your pointer finger in the following pattern: >floor >door >window >cieling. I'm the sort to stand behind the conductor and make up my own moves. I don't get invited to singing events anymore. :) -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com 219 Oak Wood Way, Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "RD" Subject: RE: AV company in the Indianapolis area Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 17:25:45 -0600 Message-ID: <01f801c6761b$6555e380$c083c447 [at] doom1> In-Reply-To: Curtis: did you order my new book, or am I getting senile> Doom -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Curtis L. Mortimore Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 3:38 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: AV company in the Indianapolis area For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Abby, I have been doing business with Shoemaker Motion Picture Company who is based in Indianapolis. I have dealt with Chris Rohn and have nothing but good things to say about the service and support I have gotten from Chris and Shoemaker. Their website is: http://www.shoemakerav.com/ I don't want to speak for them but my guess is they will have solutions for your needs. Safe travels. -- Curtis L. Mortimore Technical Director Ball State University Department of Theatre and Dance Muncie, IN 47306 765-285-8750 > From: Abby Downing > Reply-To: Stagecraft > Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 16:28:03 -0400 > To: Stagecraft > Subject: AV company in the Indianapolis area > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hello all, > > The security consulting firm my father works for is looking to > permanently install a screen/projector, or an LCD monitor to display a > some sort of looped program of their projects to display to their > incoming guests. Since I'm a lighting geek, and live a couple hours > away from him, I want to refer him to someone who is close and > knowledgeable. > > Can anyone refer me to a company(ies) local to Indianapolis, IN and > surrounding area that do this type of thing? > > Thanks! > Abby ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4465279A.9080209 [at] fuse.net> Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 20:26:02 -0400 From: Stuart Wheaton Reply-To: sdwheaton [at] fuse.net Subject: Re: Hammers References: In-Reply-To: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: > It may be there, or not. And hammers are practically immortal, > > Frank Wood Absolutely true... I have one that belonged to my Great,great great grandfather...has had seven new handles and a new head, but it is still going strong! Stuart ------------------------------ Message-ID: <44652A8E.7030003 [at] fuse.net> Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 20:38:38 -0400 From: Stuart Wheaton Reply-To: sdwheaton [at] fuse.net Subject: Re: designs on recent works References: In-Reply-To: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: > I think that my ideas on concerts are different from yours, mostly. And on > sound recording, too. As far as I am any sort of a musician, I lean to the > clssics. I should not dream of attending a rock concert. Frank, you know not of what you speak... Calling Capitol Steps a rock concert would be calling a Tom Lehrer show an arithmetic lesson.... Yes, if you don't know pop songs you will miss some of the jokes in what they are spoofing, but as my girlfriend can easily attest, even if you are culturally illiterate on any music after the 18th century, you can really enjoy both Capitol steps and Tom Lehrer. Chris, If that's the gig to which you refer, do you realize that they sell those tapes (with your mix, I presume) all over the country and you can order them even if you were not at that show? Perhaps this dude really should pay you something extra for your work! The next time Lenore gets a few new ones, I'll have to send 'em to you for autographs :-) Stuart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 20:37:39 -0400 From: "Josh Ratty" Subject: RE: Hammers In-reply-to: Cc: sdwheaton [at] fuse.net Reply-to: Message-id: <000001c67625$70e940c0$6402a8c0 [at] Rattys> Ummmm... Maybe I don't know as much about hammers as I thought, but if it's had seven new handles AND a new head, what exactly is left that belonged to your GreatX3 grandfather? Josh Ratty -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Stuart Wheaton Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 7:26 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Hammers For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: > It may be there, or not. And hammers are practically immortal, > > Frank Wood Absolutely true... I have one that belonged to my Great,great great grandfather...has had seven new handles and a new head, but it is still going strong! Stuart ------------------------------ From: rwhitco [at] comcast.net (Randy Whitcomb) Cc: josh.ratty [at] verizon.net Subject: Re: Hammers Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 00:42:00 +0000 Message-Id: <051320060042.18289.44652B58000BE67F000047712205889116010C9B0708999D [at] comcast.net> The way I heard it was: This is grandfather's hammer. My father replaced the handle and I replaced the head. -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Josh Ratty" > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Ummmm... Maybe I don't know as much about hammers as I thought, but if > it's had seven new handles AND a new head, what exactly is left that > belonged to your GreatX3 grandfather? ------------------------------ Message-ID: <069101c67639$202d9730$e28aaa43 [at] DonTaco> From: "Don Taco" References: Subject: Re: Hammers Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 19:58:29 -0700 > Ummmm... Maybe I don't know as much about hammers as I thought, but if > it's had seven new handles AND a new head, what exactly is left that > belonged to your GreatX3 grandfather? > > Josh Ratty Pride of Ownership. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000d01c6763a$2e5aef50$6401a8c0 [at] amd2200> From: "Idaho Scenic & Rigging" References: Subject: Attending a rock concert was Re: designs on recent works Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 21:06:07 -0600 > > I think that my ideas on concerts are different from yours, mostly. And on > sound recording, too. As far as I am any sort of a musician, I lean to the > clssics. I should not dream of attending a rock concert. > > Frank Wood Frank, You really should. Grab some earplugs, really, Get somebody you know to snag you a backstage pass, and spend a day at a big rock show. If you are like many of us here (OK, at least me) you don't watch the show, you watch what is going on. How this is done, how that is done. MOST of what we do every day is ho-hum to a day there. You might be impressed, you might learn something. And go outside during the loud stuff, if you have to, but watch load out, too. I learned a lot about shows long before I ever started touring. What I learned I apply in my everyday work in the air, teching and building a set, even in the loading out of the little one truck oldies band doing the fairs. As you would probably agree, we are a result of our knowledge. I wish to never stop gaining it where I can, on purpose. I can't count the times I've cocked my head a bit sideways and said to myself "We can do that at my building." Rob't ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002c01c6763f$d822bbd0$6401a8c0 [at] amd2200> From: "Idaho Scenic & Rigging" References: Subject: Re: Hammers Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 21:46:40 -0600 > The way I heard it was: > This is grandfather's hammer. My father replaced the handle and I replaced the head. > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "Josh Ratty" > > Ummmm... Maybe I don't know as much about hammers as I thought, but if > > it's had seven new handles AND a new head, what exactly is left that > > belonged to your GreatX3 grandfather? I have a Swedish Ivy that I have had for over thirty years. It's not the same pot, Many cuttings of which are from the ends of many stems, from many cuttings, from many stems, from many cuttings... are what is growing now. That plant is nowhere near the "original" plant give for its genetic material, but I have had it for 31 years. Rob't ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 00:12:40 -0400 Subject: Re: Attending a rock concert was Re: designs on recent works From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: >> As far as I am any sort of a musician, I lean to the clssics. I should not >> dream of attending a rock concert. >> >> Frank Wood > You really should. Grab some earplugs, really, Get somebody > you know to snag you a backstage pass, and spend a day at a > big rock show. I'll second that recommendation. I don't enjoy doing the rock - or especially the rap - shows, but it's a part of the job. You should experience one - just once, like it or not, and pay attention to what the sound and lighting folks do. Do pay attention to the load in and out, and see what this world is all about. Why on earth would you want to subject yourself to all of this? So that when other folks on this list talk about this side of the business you'll have some idea what they are talking about! When someone talks about doing sound for a concert, you don't respond with advice on recording a classical symphony. It never hurts to learn new things - well, maybe it'll hurt your ears, but other than that .... Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #806 *****************************