Return-Path: X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 30669023; Tue, 30 May 2006 03:01:48 -0700 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on localhost X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RECEIVED, NO_RELAYS,SARE_URI_EQUALS autolearn=no version=3.1.1 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #826 Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 03:00:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #826 1. Re: Old LMI dimmer packs by Dale Power 2. Re: NEC by "Bill Conner" 3. Re: jobs and wages (sort of an annual rant) by "Paul Guncheon" 4. Re: Unions by "Paul Guncheon" 5. Re: Unions by Dale Farmer 6. Re: Old LMI dimmer packs by Bruce Purdy 7. Re: Old LMI dimmer packs by Jerry Durand 8. Re: jobs and wages (sort of an annual rant) by SS 9. Re: Old LMI dimmer packs by Dale Power 10. Re: Bulldozer, was Re: Lightning bolt effect by "Chris Rovers" 11. Re: Bulldozer, was Re: Lightning bolt effect by "Chris Rovers" 12. Somebody hire these kids now! by Herrick Goldman 13. Re: jobs and wages (sort of an annual rant) by CB 14. Re: Taiko drums by CB 15. Re: Lightning bolt effect by CB 16. Re: Clear-Com replacement by Richard Bakos 17. ABTT Engineering Conf. by Scott Spidell 18. Re: Clear-Com replacement by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 19. Re: Opera Rep by Richard Bakos 20. Re: Lightning bolt effect by Clive Mitchell 21. Re: Lightning bolt effect by Clive Mitchell 22. Re: Bulldozer, was Re: Lightning bolt effect by "Occy" 23. Re: Opera Rep by iaeg [at] aol.com 24. Re: Lightning bolt effect by "Bill Nelson" 25. Re: Lightning bolt effect by "Salvatori, Jason" 26. Re: Old LMI dimmer packs by "Bill Nelson" 27. Re: Bulldozer, was Re: Lightning bolt effect by "Chris Rovers" 28. Re: ABTT Engineering Conf. by Bill Sapsis 29. Re: G-Lec Lightframes by "Ken Romaine" 30. Re: Old LMI dimmer packs by Greg Persinger *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <447AD9D0.F5CAE617 [at] swgc.mun.ca> Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 08:54:01 -0230 From: Dale Power Subject: Re: Old LMI dimmer packs References: Hi Bruce, I'm working from memory but I think this is the procedure: 1.) Put a 1k load on the dimmer you are trimming. 2.) Set the channel control for the dimmer to 10%(?). 3.) With a true RMS meter connected to measure the voltage across the load adjust the low trim to 1v. 4.) Now set the channel to 90%(?). 5.) With a true RMS meter connected to measure the voltage across the load adjust the high trim to 81v. 6.) Repeat steps 2 thru 5 until the measured high/low voltage settings remain unchanged. This procedure sets a square law curve. Choosing different low/high points will provide a different curve. I hope this helps. Cheers Dale > Hi all! > > I have a couple of old analogue LMI portable dimmer racks (6 - 3.6k > dimmers each) (Red boxes). Each dimmer has two trim adjustment screws. > > I naively assumed that they were simply "Low setting" and "High > setting", but apparently they are not - they interact together in some way. > Does anyone have a user manual or instruction sheet or personal experience > with these units that will help me understand how to set these adjustments? ------------------------------ Message-ID: <015a01c6832a$75ca5fe0$6501a8c0 [at] BCA1> Reply-To: "Bill Conner" From: "Bill Conner" Subject: Re: NEC Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 09:16:20 -0500 You can get the PDF version for $72.50 at nfpa.org. A lot easier than carrying a book around if you travel or go to meetings much and, of course, searchable. Bill C. ASTC ETCP CR-T ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000901c68335$8c9750b0$0202a8c0 [at] HUNKACRAP> From: "Paul Guncheon" References: Subject: Re: jobs and wages (sort of an annual rant) Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 05:35:37 -1000 <> The thing is, so what? Even if he did, whining about it is not even remotely going to make it better. <> Sorry, but not really... the situations say absolutely nothing. How can you possibly justify scolding us in this manner? To take one or two instances of perceived injustice and use them to color our entire industry is simply wrong. C'mon, the Union does not exist to look out for *our* best interests, but the Union members' best interests. Who came down hard on the two posters who had "trouble" with Unions? Nobody. Those who responded tried to show what they might do to increase their chances on getting a call. <> If so, it didn't seem he wanted it bad enough. Most guys who want to get on calls do it for the wages, conditions, and benefits. <> Padding? Never thought of it that way. Considering it thus implies something unsettling to me, but I can't put my finger on it as yet. I have "Member IATSE Local 665" on my 1 pager so that possible employers are made aware that I can work Union gigs and that, if they hire me, they will have to pay wages and conditions at the minimum. I thought about it for a long time before I put it on there... having it replace something else. <<"Diplomacy is the art of saying "good doggie" until you find a suitable rock.">> I really, really like this. Laters, Paul "I think the dwarf was not telling the truth" Tom imlied. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000c01c68336$5aaf0510$0202a8c0 [at] HUNKACRAP> From: "Paul Guncheon" References: Subject: Re: Unions Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 05:41:05 -1000 <<"Sometimes it's a matter of skill level, sometimes personality, personal hygiene, personal equipment, attitude, etc. What's your skill level in your craft? Does your mouth know more than your brain? Have you ever worked a Union call? Did show up early, dressed appropriately for the work with the right tools+. Did you work efficiently, quietly, and respectfully of all other technicians around you... no matter what department? Did you work with an eager yet not-too-eager attitude, and show a willingness to learn from members who might know more than you? Now Paul, this doesn't help the union look any better. This kind of response is exactly the arrogance I've seen from some unions. Right off the bat, you talk down to him, even insults! >> Umm, sorry. It was not my intent to be arrogant... simply pragmatic. I have read it over a few times and actually, I don't see any arrogance in the above. Nor do I see any insults. I see a series of questions one might ask themselves to see if there might be a reason one is not getting calls. If the above is insulting and arrogant then I need a serious period of introspection and meditation. <<"When's lunch?" Really, have you been asked that first thing in the morning? >> I can see the perceived said arrogance is this line, but it was meant to be more humorous... and yes, I have heard this more than once first thing (in fact, many times) at the start of a call. <> Who is talking down to whom? Laters, Paul ------------------------------ Message-ID: <447B1D9E.5050409 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 12:13:18 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Organization: I'm working on that.... Subject: Re: Unions References:

In-Reply-To: This is turning into a flame war, and I have better things to do with my life than argue. --Dale ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 12:38:03 -0400 Subject: Re: Old LMI dimmer packs From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > I'm working from memory but I think this is the procedure: > > 1.) Put a 1k load on the dimmer you are trimming. > 2.) Set the channel control for the dimmer to 10%(?). > 3.) With a true RMS meter connected to measure the voltage across the load > adjust the low trim to 1v. > 4.) Now set the channel to 90%(?). > 5.) With a true RMS meter connected to measure the voltage across the load > adjust the high trim to 81v. > 6.) Repeat steps 2 thru 5 until the measured high/low voltage settings remain > unchanged. > > This procedure sets a square law curve. Choosing different low/high points > will provide a different curve. Thanks Dale, Sounds a bit more complicated than I was hoping for, but it may be necessary to go that route. A little more background: After I installed a DMX rack, I re-purposed the old analogue LMI packs to control our house lighting. Although they are designed to be portable units, I hard wired the packs in to replace an ageing resistance board. With an A/D adapter, I can now control house lighting from my express board, along with the stage lighting. The one circuit that is giving me the most trouble, controls a set of lights in the lobby just outside of the auditorium doors. When dimmed all the way down, they still are glowing at maybe 10% brightness. Each dimmer has two trim screws - one above the other, so I figured that the lower one controlled the "Dim" level, and the upper one controlled the "Bright" level. But when I turned the lower one all the way down, the lights wouldn't come on at all - even faded all the way up. The more I played with the settings, the more confusing it all seemed. I finally set both screws to the same position that the other dimmers were at and everything's the way it was when I started. The biggest problem is that the racks are in the projection booth, and I have to run down three flights of stairs to the lobby to see what affect each adjustment had - then run all the way back up to adjust them some more. It's great exercise - but I'm getting too old for that stuff. It may kill be, but at least I'll be a healthy corpse! ;-) Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 09:41:19 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Old LMI dimmer packs In-reply-to: Message-id: <7.0.1.0.0.20060529094022.01f9caf0 [at] interstellar.com> References:

At 09:38 AM 5/29/2006, Bruce Purdy wrote: > The biggest problem is that the racks are in the projection booth, and I >have to run down three flights of stairs to the lobby to see what affect >each adjustment had - then run all the way back up to adjust them some more. >It's great exercise - but I'm getting too old for that stuff. It may kill >be, but at least I'll be a healthy corpse! ;-) Latch on to a passerby and hand them a radio (or have them call you from the lobby). Makes trimming lights a LOT easier. -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com 219 Oak Wood Way, Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand ------------------------------ Message-ID: <8231e7ea0605290944v56296fa8t9ab260bc5f1bb1fb [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 12:44:06 -0400 From: SS Subject: Re: jobs and wages (sort of an annual rant) In-Reply-To: References:

<> > The thing is, so what? Even if he did, whining about it is not even remotely > going to make it better. Exactly. No one is disagreeing with you Paul. It isn't going to change anything, or make it better. That is why in my previous statements I wrote: "I don't know Dale personally, and by no means am I agreeing/disagreeing with Dale's comments/personality/demeanor/opinion/etc". <> > Sorry, but not really... the situations say absolutely nothing. How can you > possibly justify scolding us in this manner? To take one or two instances > of perceived injustice and use them to color our entire industry is simply > wrong. No one is scolding anyone. If you go back and read my original text, I "disclaimered" the hell out of it in attempts to not offend anyone. I was merely trying to play Devil's Advocate since I have been on both sides of the situations being discussed. I am not coloring anyone, anything. Again, I was just trying to paint a picture to hang next to the existing one in the gallery. Dale's comments may have been intended to serve as that of a "scolding" nature, but mine were not. I even stated that: "most of the locals I have worked for/with were a fantastic group of "players" if you will, I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here for a mini rant, because there are two sides to every coin, and I have been on both sides". >C'mon, the Union does not exist to look out for *our* best interests, >but the Union members' best interests. <> > If so, it didn't seem he wanted it bad enough. Most guys who want to get on > calls do it for the wages, conditions, and benefits. You read into it. It was a generalization. My bad for doing so. Sorry. Obviously the union does not exist to represent someone who is not a member, or attempting to become a member. I was merely stating that the union exists to help those in our industry with a better life. Which you also stated by your above comments: "Most guys who want to get on calls do it for the wages, conditions, and benefits". The unions (on a whole) also tend to promote "joining", and becoming a member of the team, etc, etc. (and if you've ever attended USITT or the like, and meandered past the Local 1, or USA booths, you can't possibly tell me they *don't* push that stuff on people). I believe Dale's frustrations lie in the fact that he did try and got shut out. Again, I don't know all the details, he may not have "wanted it enough", but if he was naive and wet behind the ears when this did occur (navy pun), then it should serve as a learning experience for Dale. Maybe it was Dale's fault. Maybe the IA did treat him badly. None of us will ever really know. That's between Dale and the local in Boston. > Who came down hard on the two posters who had "trouble" with Unions? Nobody. > Those who responded tried to show what they might do to increase their > chances on getting a call. Again, no one said anyone "came down" on anyone else. It is the tone in which the words on a the page read. That's the problem with emails, vs. traditional conversation. Deciphering ones meaning/intent can prove a difficult task. But, it would seem there is definitely a distinct confrontational tone in your words. If there was no harshness intended in the messages laid down, then please forgive me, and/or anyone else who may have misinterpreted them. Not here for fighting, but for learning and friendly discussion. < paper and nice resume padding >> > Padding? Never thought of it that way. Considering it thus implies something > unsettling to me, but I can't put my finger on it as yet. It implies nothing unsettling, unless of course you want it to . I was referring to those in education. Those seeking employment, and/or tenure. Administrator's have a field day with folks who have fancy acronyms and affiliations on there CV's. It looks good on paper was my point. <<"Diplomacy is the art of saying "good doggie" until you find a suitable rock.">> > I really, really like this. Assuming you were serious on this last note, and not trying be sarcastic (cause we all do that at some point or another :) Thanks. I always found it to be an amusing statement. Glad you like it too! :) -SS TTS-EKU "Diplomacy is the art of saying "good doggie" until you find a suitable rock. " ------------------------------ Message-ID: <447B2707.9DADE722 [at] swgc.mun.ca> Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 14:23:27 -0230 From: Dale Power Subject: Re: Old LMI dimmer packs References: Hi Bruce, > It may be that the lobby lights don't present enough of a load. The leakage > current maybe just enough to keep the bulbs on. Try adding more load to see if > the bulbs go out. Cheers Dale > > > The one circuit that is giving me the most trouble, controls a set of > lights in the lobby just outside of the auditorium doors. When dimmed all > the way down, they still are glowing at maybe 10% brightness. ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 13:40:46 -0400 From: "Chris Rovers" Subject: Re: Bulldozer, was Re: Lightning bolt effect In-Reply-To: References:

On 5/28/06, Idaho Scenic & Rigging wrote: > I have never seen a D9 backhoe. Just Bulldozers. but > then... in that regard, > I've only been to the corner, not around the block > > I've seen one level a theater, but never push scenery > around. A backhoe inside our theatre : http://pics.livejournal.com/quingawaga/pic/000bgqx1 Still rebuilding... endlessly so. Anyone got 60K they can spare? Anyone want a theatre named after them? :) -cdr ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 14:12:35 -0400 Subject: Somebody hire these kids now! From: Herrick Goldman Cc: chrism [at] swinyc.com (chrism [at] swinyc.com) Cc: jhealy [at] swinyc.com (John Healy) Cc: jcc [at] altmanltg.com (John Carver) Cc: mseddy2900 [at] hotmail.com (Michael S. Eddy) Message-ID: http://web.mit.edu/zacka/www/midas.html -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060529121055.00d45b90 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 12:10:55 From: CB Subject: Re: jobs and wages (sort of an annual rant) I've seen posts that call the union great, and those that say it sucks, and all in between. Kinda like the group of blind men that met the elephant, all of them are right. I've been all across this land a coupla times, and I've been at union houses that just blew me away with their safety, camraderie, and work ethic. And a hundred and fifty miles away we needed a cattle prod to get 'em to lift anydamnthing. It ain't the bug, its the people, folk. Puttin' a bug on a group of guys won't make 'em any better unless they wish to be. My own local had its issues, and I had to wait quite a while before I'd think about getting involved. I loved the guys, and was a staunch supporter, but I'd had a few bad experiences with 'politics' and that left a sour taste in my mouth. So, even a great group of hands doesn't necessarily make a local 'good'. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060529121303.00d45b90 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 12:13:03 From: CB Subject: Re: Taiko drums >You may also mention "Ear plugs like the ones the crew were wearing." "The crew!?! No, your Honor, the crew weren't ewaring any hearing protection." Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060529122456.00d45b90 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 12:24:56 From: CB Subject: Re: Lightning bolt effect >Chris, not often I can call you on something but this time I can. D9 are >track-type tractors most often call by the laymen Bulldozers. D-9, D-10, whatever it takes. I'm a sound-guy, ferchrissakes! Yeah, thanks, I mixed up the Case FEL-backhoe and the 'bulldozer' that we had on the lot twenty years ago. I just remember the boss calling out 'D-9!' all the time... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <447B4B64.1000208 [at] StudioOneSB.com> Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 15:28:36 -0400 From: Richard Bakos Organization: Studio One Inc. Subject: Re: Clear-Com replacement References: In-Reply-To: I second an earlier post that the problem lies in the installed part of the system. There is one hall here in town that they only use channel 2 of the system because 1 has a problem that has existed since the system was put in. Clear com and all of the systems use an unbalanced audio system so they are very sensitive to grounding problems. Under no circumstance to you want a shield to be grounded anywhere. If you disconnect your main station and meter between any of your wires and ground and see any reading at all you know you are going to need to take everything apart and start looking at connections. If your system was installed by an electrical systems contractor they may not have been good about dealing with the cable shields. The other thing to look at is the quality of the jumper cables that you hook belt packs to the wall with. All it takes is one bad cable and there goes the system. Having used clear com for 30 years I know that most problems trace to cable not the boxes. Because you stated that it is never been clean I would put money into wire before you even think about new components. Rick Byron Lovelace wrote: > My clear-com system went down last night and we ran the show on > cellphones. It is a 15 year old in-wall A/B installation that has > never had both channels working or running clean since I've been here. > Though I'll be trying to fix it, what would you recommend I replace it > with? > Byron Lovelace > Technical Director / Facilities Manager -- Richard Bakos President Studio One Inc. 25833 State Road 2 South Bend, In 46619-4736 VOICE 574-232-9084 FAX 574-232-2220 Rick [at] StudioOneSB.com www.StudioOnesb.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.0.20060529152713.01b17318 [at] uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 15:54:27 -0400 From: Scott Spidell Subject: ABTT Engineering Conf. Bill, Bill, et al, I will be going to the London ABTT Engineering and Architecture show and will be staying at the Jolly Hotel. Shall we schedule a beer? Nigel, will you join us? Scott Scott Spidell Drama Department University of Waterloo ML 104 x4767 or 519-888-4767 (F) 519-725-0651 drama.uwaterloo.ca ccat.uwaterloo.ca ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <49d.e8e233.31acbb7a [at] aol.com> Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 17:02:50 EDT Subject: Re: Clear-Com replacement In a message dated 5/29/06 9:29:42 PM W. Europe Daylight Time, Rick [at] StudioOneSB.com writes: << Clear com and all of the systems use an unbalanced audio system so they are very sensitive to grounding problems. Under no circumstance to you want a shield to be grounded anywhere. With this, I take issue. If it's not grounded, it's not a shield, screen, or whatever. It's simply a third signal conductor. That said, how it is grounded is important. At the system power supply is probably best, but it depends on the wiring detail. But, in one place, and one place only. Multiple grounds are a recipe for trouble. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <447B63D7.9070901 [at] StudioOneSB.com> Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 17:12:55 -0400 From: Richard Bakos Organization: Studio One Inc. Subject: Re: Opera Rep References: In-Reply-To: Did some work in a plant that had a misting system to maintain humidity and during the winter is was great to have a constant 35% humidity in the middle of January. It would be doable in a theatre if it wasn't for the matter of money. Rick peter [at] scheuconsulting.com writes: << Another thing is "misting" the stage. Although it probably was highly ineffectual in such a large space, I would often walk around the stage about 5 mins to curtain with a Hudson sprayer, spraying a fine mist of water into the air (not enough to cause slip concerns). The singers would see that and I was their HERO for getting the dust out of the air (he-he). >> -- Richard Bakos President Studio One Inc. 25833 State Road 2 South Bend, In 46619-4736 VOICE 574-232-9084 FAX 574-232-2220 Rick [at] StudioOneSB.com www.StudioOnesb.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <14BIMqFUQ2eEFw$w [at] ntlworld.com> Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 22:13:56 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: Lightning bolt effect References: In-Reply-To: In message , "ladesigners [at] juno.com" writes >If you like driving D10s, try out a Cat 797B. The view from the cab is >as spectacular as its operating weight of 1,375,000 lbs. >/s/ Richard Not as good as the view from a lorry mounted access platform though... http://www.emanator.demon.co.uk/hillshot.jpg Or straight down.... http://www.emanator.demon.co.uk/vertigo.jpg -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 22:17:08 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: Lightning bolt effect References: In-Reply-To: In message , "ladesigners [at] juno.com" writes >But the 0000 rumbles and bounces some times. The guys near the cables feeding some of the strobes did mention that they jumped into the air. :) -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Occy" References:

Subject: Re: Bulldozer, was Re: Lightning bolt effect Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 14:50:56 -0700 Well closer to a backhoe than a D9, that's hydraulic excavator. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Rovers" A backhoe inside our theatre : http://pics.livejournal.com/quingawaga/pic/000bgqx1 Still rebuilding... endlessly so. Anyone got 60K they can spare? Anyone want a theatre named after them? :) -cdr ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 17:55:18 -0400 Message-Id: <8C85181B5E4261B-1DEC-5F6A [at] mblk-d14.sysops.aol.com> From: iaeg [at] aol.com References:

In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Opera Rep <<<>> I I R C , ,, The MET has such a system built in.. of course, money is less of an issue for them.. very best, Keith Arsenault International Arts & Entertainment Group -----Original Message----- From: Richard Bakos To: Stagecraft Sent: Mon, 29 May 2006 17:12:55 -0400 Subject: Re: Opera Rep For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see=20 =C2=A0 ---------------------------------------------------=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Did some work in a plant that had a misting system to maintain=20 humidity and during the winter is was great to have a constant 35%=20 humidity in the middle of January. It would be doable in a theatre if=20 it wasn't for the matter of money.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Rick=C2=A0 =C2=A0 peter [at] scheuconsulting.com writes:=C2=A0 << Another thing is "misting" the stage. Although it probably was=20 highly ineffectual in such a large space, I would often walk around the=20 stage about 5 mins to curtain with a Hudson sprayer, spraying a fine=20 mist of water into the air (not enough to cause slip concerns). The=20 singers would see that and I was their HERO for getting the dust out of=20 the air (he-he). >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 -- =C2=A0 Richard Bakos=C2=A0 =C2=A0 President =C2=A0 Studio One Inc.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 25833 State Road 2=C2=A0 =C2=A0 South Bend, In 46619-4736=C2=A0 =C2=A0 VOICE 574-232-9084=C2=A0 =C2=A0 FAX 574-232-2220=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Rick [at] StudioOneSB.com =C2=A0 =C2=A0 www.StudioOnesb.com=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =20 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1146.205.215.255.45.1148942111.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 15:35:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Lightning bolt effect From: "Bill Nelson" > For sheer effect and audience pleasing blam, you really do want to use a > simple pyrotechnic cartridge like a silver star for this. It'll do the > flash, bang, sparks and smoke in an entirely pleasing manner at the > touch of a button. > > There are times when only pyro will do the job. I some states, the necessary limited pyro license is trivial to obtain. Here in Oregon, it just requires the person be 18 years of age and not have a felony conviction. There might be a few other minor requirements. Experience and training are not required, but would certainly be wise before embarking on such an effort. There is also the problem of the local fire marshal, who might prohibit such effects. Bill ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Lightning bolt effect Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 18:42:06 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Salvatori, Jason" >I some states, the necessary limited pyro license is trivial to obtain. >Here in Oregon, it just requires the person be 18 years of age and not >have a felony conviction. There might be a few other minor = requirements. >Experience and training are not required, but would certainly be wise >before embarking on such an effort. The licensing requirements in Canada are similar - a simple 1 day course (which involves little to no actual training) The big limitation to pyro in Canada is the insurance. It simply=20 costs too much to get the necessary liability coverage for most small productions to bother. Jason _________________________________________________________________________= _ This e-mail, including any attachment(s), may be confidential and is = intended solely for the attention and information of the named = addressee(s). If you are not the intended recipient or have received = this message in error, please notify me immediately by return e-mail and = permanently delete the original transmission from your computer, = including any attachment(s). Any unauthorized distribution, disclosure = or copying of this message and attachment(s) by anyone other than the = recipient is strictly prohibited. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1178.205.215.255.45.1148944130.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 16:08:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Old LMI dimmer packs From: "Bill Nelson" Make a SMALL change on the low set pot and see how it affects the lobby lights. If you don't see any difference, try making a small change in the other direction from the starting point. If still no change, set the low pot back at your starting point and make a small change in the high set. That is about the best that can be done without an RMS voltmeter and test load. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 19:35:56 -0400 From: "Chris Rovers" Subject: Re: Bulldozer, was Re: Lightning bolt effect In-Reply-To: References:

> Well closer to a backhoe than a D9, that's hydraulic excavator. Whatever it was, it did a pretty good job of tearing down 50 years of history... :( Admittedly, said history WAS a smoking ruin at the time, so I can't really blame anyone for it doing so. -cdr ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 20:28:21 -0400 Subject: Re: ABTT Engineering Conf. From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: I'd love too but I'm afraid I'm on a very tight schedule. Are you coming over for ABTT and the TEA or just ABTT? Bill S. ETCP Certified Rigger - Theatre www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 267.278.4561 mobile Join the Long Reach Long Riders on their 3rd annual cross country charity motorcycle ride. On 5/29/06 3:54 PM, "Scott Spidell" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Bill, Bill, et al, > I will be going to the London ABTT Engineering and Architecture show > and will be staying at the Jolly Hotel. Shall we schedule a beer? > Nigel, will you join us? > Scott > > Scott Spidell Drama Department University of Waterloo > ML 104 x4767 or 519-888-4767 (F) 519-725-0651 > drama.uwaterloo.ca ccat.uwaterloo.ca > ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 21:26:01 -0400 From: "Ken Romaine" Subject: Re: G-Lec Lightframes In-Reply-To: References: G-lec Lightframes are made by G-Lec (I'm shocked!). http://www.g-lec.com/ -- Ken Romaine Business Development Manager Barco Media & Entertainment The opinions expressed here are mine - all mine - no matter how much I want to impose them on the rest of the world. On 5/26/06, brooklyn [at] dopher.com wrote: > Does anybody know if Scharff-Weisberg's G-Lec Lightframes are > manufactured by them, or if they're manufactured by someone else FOR > Scharff-Weisberg. And if someone else...who? > > Cris Dopher ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 21:18:57 -0500 Subject: Re: Old LMI dimmer packs From: Greg Persinger Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Bruce, Call Lin Wheeler with ETC technical services at (770) 335-6227 or call ETC's general number and ask for him. If he can't get you sorted out he will know who you can contact at the factory that can. ETC still supports and services these racks technical support just didn't know who to forward you too. Greg Persinger on 5/28/06 8:24 AM, Bruce Purdy at bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hi all! > > I have a couple of old analogue LMI portable dimmer racks (6 - 3.6k > dimmers each) (Red boxes). Each dimmer has two trim adjustment screws. > > I naively assumed that they were simply "Low setting" and "High > setting", but apparently they are not - they interact together in some way. > Does anyone have a user manual or instruction sheet or personal experience > with these units that will help me understand how to set these adjustments? > > LMI is now handled by ETC, but unfortunately ETC's excellent technical > service was unable to help me (They are too old I guess). > > Bruce ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #826 *****************************