Return-Path: X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 30797045; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:01:43 -0700 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on localhost X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RECEIVED, NO_RELAYS autolearn=unavailable version=3.1.1 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #831 Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:00:55 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #831 1. Re: shop floor by Dale Farmer 2. Re: American Flag (meaning) by Richard Wolpert 3. Re: shop floor by "Idaho Scenic & Rigging" 4. effect of new technology by Judy 5. concrete floors by Judy *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <4481114C.9020607 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 00:34:20 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Organization: I'm working on that.... Subject: Re: shop floor References: In-Reply-To: JUSTIN DAVID BENNETT wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Save the money for tools... or sound equipment... or lighting instruments... > Go concrete with drains. This way you can power wash the paint off, and > don't have to worry about long term maintenance (in a high school, which > undoubtedly will have trouble finding the money to replace the floor). > > Of course there may be a really good reason for plywood which I've not > considered... Anyone? > Because the sparks from the welder leave such lovely burn mark patterns on it. --Dale ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 00:28:26 -0400 From: Richard Wolpert Subject: RE: American Flag (meaning) In-reply-to: Message-id: Semper Fi Michael Richard A.Wolpert President Union Connector Co., Inc. 40 Dale Street West Babylon, NY 11704 Ph: 631-753-9550 ext. 204 Fx: 631-753-9560 richw [at] unionconnector.com -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Michael Powers Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 11:35 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: American Flag (meaning) For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- MissWisc [at] aol.com wrote: >It's not the object itself, it's what it represents............ Kristi, A very eloquent explanation. Thank you. I'm glad I read your post before I put keyboard in mouth with an overly emotional knee jerk reply. Do I have VERY strong emotions and feelings about the flag? YES! Like most who have served in the military, my reasons for it are strong and mixed. I can no more explain the depth and breadth of it than a mother can explain childbirth to a man. The words are there but the actual experience can not be really accurately duplicated nor explained. I didn't go to Nam for a flag. The guys I served with and fought beside didn't serve or die for a flag. However the flag became a very strong symbol to us for the reasons we were there and what we went through. When someone dis'es the flag, we tend to take it as a personal assault on our personal beliefs and reasons for being. Am I rational when it comes to treatment of the flag? I doubt it. Using it in a show for a purpose, laying it on the deck to facilitate hanging it or rigging it, no problem. Treating it with disrespect as a political statement, BIG PROBLEM! In many ways those of us from Nam have a slightly different view point because of the way we were treated when we got back. Then I'd have given up a winning lottery ticket for a single one of the "support our troops" stickers that seem to be on almost every vehicle on the road today. -- Michael Michael Powers Director of Operations Central Lighting & Equipment 1720 Fuller Rd. Suite 150 West Des Moines Iowa 50265 515-277-4190 877-977-4190 Fax 515-277-2295 515-557-0178 cell michael [at] clelights.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001001c686cc$256e8c10$6401a8c0 [at] amd2200> From: "Idaho Scenic & Rigging" References:

Subject: Re: shop floor Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 23:06:53 -0600 Of course laying a welding project directly on a concrete floor has it's advantages, too... Like being able to create your own moonscape or WW II artillery battlefield mockup. \G/ IMO wood floor is the best. Despite the best shoes and insoles, this old man's legs just get fatigued after pounding concrete for 8 to 16 hours a day. Stretching drops, screwing to the floor, et al, the advantages of wood That said, I agree with the below notion for a high school. I am thinking a smallish shop probably not big enough to stretch a 30 x20 drop with other equipment present. Wood floor = maintenance FWIW Rob't ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale Farmer" To: "Stagecraft" > > JUSTIN DAVID BENNETT wrote: > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > Save the money for tools... or sound equipment... or lighting instruments... > > Go concrete with drains. This way you can power wash the paint off, and > > don't have to worry about long term maintenance (in a high school, which > > undoubtedly will have trouble finding the money to replace the floor). > > > > Of course there may be a really good reason for plywood which I've not > > considered... Anyone? > > > > Because the sparks from the welder leave such lovely burn mark > patterns on it. > > --Dale ------------------------------ Message-ID: <448150C2.3080006 [at] post.tau.ac.il> Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 11:05:06 +0200 From: Judy Subject: effect of new technology > > >I need some opinions on new technology in the theatre...(within last 2 >years). > I agree with Richard that it sounds like homework! But here is some funny input - I was talking to a designer from the Netherlands this week, and it seems we both have found that there is less work for designers because in many cases the theater electricians are doing the designs (much cheaper than calling in somebody from outside). We said this might be because of all the improved technology. It's now much easier to do lighting that looks ok just because there is so much good equipment up there and such fancy console. You don't really need to understand about angles, or think about realizing concepts. Just turn it on and you and the director play around till it looks good. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <448150D1.4040605 [at] post.tau.ac.il> Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 11:05:21 +0200 From: Judy Subject: concrete floors Once on tour with a dance troupe we got to a stage that turned out to have a concrete floor. Without any discussion, and at expense and inconvenience, we immediately cancelled the show. Dancers won't ruin their bodies by dancing on that. >> I distinctly remember the fatigue I experienced after >>6-9 hours of walking around on the concrete floor. Not so fun. >> >>Guess it's a tradeoff, spend money to replace the plywood when it gets >>nasty, or spend money on insoles/chiropractor/joint replacement. >> ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #831 *****************************