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X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 31048460; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 03:01:50 -0700 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on localhost X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.5 required=5.0 tests=ADVANCE_FEE_1,AWL,BAYES_00, NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=unavailable version=3.1.3 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #841 Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 03:00:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #841 1. Re: ETC Effect help by "Bill Nelson" 2. Re: dichroics - WOW by "Bill Nelson" 3. Re: dichroics - WOW by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 4. Re: 500 yards by Steve Larson 5. Re: dichorics - WOW - solutions by "Bill Nelson" 6. Re: ETC Effect Help by Mike Post 7. Re: 500 yards by "Frank E. Merrill" 8. Re: airplane by "Frank E. Merrill" 9. Re: 500 yards by "Bill Nelson" 10. Re: How to ground a moving sound system by "Steven Santos" 11. Amplifier and Speakers by 12. Re: Mobil Generator Grounding by Jerry Durand 13. Re: airplane by "Idaho Scenic & Rigging" 14. Re: laser measure by Jim Hyslop 15. Re: airplane by "Jon Ares" 16. Re: laser measure by Jerry Durand 17. Re: Mobil Generator Grounding by Kenneth Zinkl 18. Re: 500 yards by Steve Larson 19. Re: 500 yards by Herrick Goldman 20. Re: 500 yards by "Idaho Scenic & Rigging" 21. Re: airplane by "Idaho Scenic & Rigging" 22. Re: laser measure by "Bill Nelson" 23. by jon weaver 24. Tool marking warning by Jerry Durand 25. Re: 500 yards by CB 26. Re: 500 yards by CB 27. Re: Mobil Generator Grounding by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 28. Re: 500 yards by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 29. General apologies by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 30. Re: General apologies by "Occy" 31. solar parts by Jerry Durand 32. Re: Amplifier and Speakers by Brian James 33. Re: Asbestos Exposure by "Jeffrey Kanyuck" 34. Re: solar parts by Mark O'Brien 35. Re: airplane by "Shawn King" 36. Re: Amplifier and Speakers by Michael de Almeida 37. Re: solar parts by "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" 38. Looking for a CAD symbol by Maia Robbins-Zust 39. Slo-Mo Beer Cannon Montage by SS 40. Re: laser measure by Jim Hyslop 41. Re: Slo-Mo Beer Cannon Montage by "chrisharris25" 42. Re: Lightning bolt effect by "Laura McMeley" 43. Re: airplane by NODEraser 44. Re: laser measure by "Bill Nelson" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <1316.205.215.255.59.1149935616.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: <1149909581.15F40DCA [at] dg12.dngr.org> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 03:33:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: ETC Effect help From: "Bill Nelson" > Similar effects occur three times in the show and they're all simple ( 2 > channels and between 5 and 7 steps per effect) > > I've tried it as an effect cue, an effect sub and a sub-on-sub > (subroutine on submaster) with the same result. That seems to be the situation on both ETC and EDI boards, at least the ones with which I am familiar. I don't have much experience with the Expression. Is there a way to put a submaster under cross-fader control? I don't recall any mention of that capability in the manual. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1477.205.215.255.59.1149941879.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 05:17:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: dichroics - WOW From: "Bill Nelson" > Yep. the light is coming from the iris slot, with the lid closed as tight > as can be, until it hits the holder handle. The filter was placed in the > side of the holder nearest the lamp, with the reflective coating nearest > the lamp. The holders are double sided, being able to take a glass > gobo/dichroic on each side. This puts the handle in the middle of the > slot, and doesn't allow the iris cover to get as close as it normally does > with an iris installed. I didn't even know that ETC made such a holder - it is not listed on their site. My holders for the iris slot will only hold one glass dichro/gobo - but are from City Theatrical. When you insert the holder, make sure it is all the way down in the slot. It is easy fail to do so. If unsure, take out the lens barrel and look inside the shroud. If there is a flat side to the holder, as there is on mine, the flat side goes towards the lamp. When it is inserted properly, the cover closes up against the holder handle, blocking off all light except that which may leak through the edges of the dichro itself. I don't see any reason to have a double sided holder for the iris slot. You can put a gobo in the gobo slot. Bill ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: dichroics - WOW Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:24:58 -0400 Message-ID: <02e801c68c88$e35e5950$6501a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > I didn't even know that ETC made such a holder - it is not=20 > listed on their site. >=20 > My holders for the iris slot will only hold one glass=20 > dichro/gobo - but are from City Theatrical. I believe the product to which he's referring is Rosco's Universal Iris = Slot Holder: http://www.rosco.com/us/gobocatalog/support/holder.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:27:14 -0400 Subject: Re: 500 yards From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: I doubt you fired the M-16 in '66. The M-14 most likely. They are much more accurate at long distances. If I remember correctly, the round from an M-16 begins to tumble at distances. That could tear a nasty hole at 300-500 yards. Steve > From: "Michael Powers" > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" > Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 21:50:32 -0500 > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Re: 500 yards > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Steve Larson writes: > > < I believe that 300 yards in the max on ranges > for an M-16. I last fired in 2003 during Operation > Iraqi Freedom prep. Their accuracy at 500 yards is > questionable.>> > > Steve, > > Well, first of all, even as a "not currently active" Marine, I can > garen-damn-tee you that the Marines are a LOT different from the army, > rifle qualifying or otherwise. I qualified expert marksman and like > every Marine boot, it included firing prone from 500 yds. Although > that was a couple of weeks ago ('66) I can't imagine the Corps backing > off on that part of training, any recent or currently active duty > Marines are welcome to correct me if I'm wrong. Though, for Nam and > probably now, the value of the 500 yard training was(is) discipline, > as 50 yds was possibly the most distant target I ever fired on and > 20-30 yds was probably closer to the norm. According to the Marine > Corps, the only questionable things about the M-16 weapon were 1. > the marksman 2. his training, and as we found out, 3. the early > versions had a real reliability problem when exposed to the elements. > If you were a Marine, that took care problems 1 & 2. I understand > later versions of the weapon took care problem 3. > > -- > Michael > > Michael Powers > Director of Operations > Central Lighting & Equipment > 1720 Fuller Rd. Suite 150 > West Des Moines Iowa 50265 > 515-277-4190 877-977-4190 > Fax 515-277-2295 > 515-557-0178 cell > michael [at] clelights.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1498.205.215.255.59.1149943173.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 05:39:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: dichorics - WOW - solutions From: "Bill Nelson" > As for the holder issues in the iris slot, they are aware of the > problem, and have custom made the solution (at $10 more per unit, > from $14 to $25): a holder for the glass filter in the gobo slot, > with a larger aperture. Get your holders from City Theatrical. They are less expensive and just as good. They also have a larger selection of sizes. I don't think you mentioned the dichro diameter. If it is 100 mm, it will only fit in the iris slot holder, #2171 for $22.75. This is the A size, so you get the full gate diameter as clear area. For 86 mm dichros, #2173 is for the pattern slot and #2178 is for the iris slot. For 82mm the numbers are #2170 for gobo slot and #2172 for iris slot. The gobo slot holders list for $10.50 and the Iris slot holders for $19.95. Bill ------------------------------ Message-Id: <911481F6-4167-42DF-B085-16A45D59720E [at] mac.com> From: Mike Post Subject: Re: ETC Effect Help Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:55:56 -0500 I was never happier programming than the day I figured this one out on an Obsession. I don't speak Emphasis at all, but I do play with Expression boards quite a bit. The secret to fading effects is building them on submasters and putting fade times on them. You can specify an In, Dwell and Out time for a submaster just like an effect step. In your case, the In might be 0, the Dwell is Hold, and the Out is the seconds you want the effect to linger. To use the effect, hit the bump button. The effect will start and run continuously on it's own since it's on a Hold. Hitting the bump button a second time will start the fade out. To fully automate this, just write a macro to hit the bump button for you. I often link these macros to a cue, but Midi Show Control will allow you to fire a macro directly. As a side note, putting effects on subs cleans up the programming quite a bit for those who try to put effects on the C/D fader. You can bump multiple subs and have several effects running simultaneously. I used to weave several effects together in a single one and run it on C/D. This way makes my brain hurt less... Mike Post Lighting Designer Assistant Professor of Lighting and Sound The University of Southern Mississippi mdpost [at] mac.com michael.post [at] usm.edu > I'm just completely stuck on this one... > > We're using an ETC Expression III system with Emphasis. > > We're trying to have a flicker effect fade-out but still flicker while > the levels diminish during the fade-out. > > What keeps happening is that the fade-out is grabbing the channels at > whatever level they happen to be at then do a straight fade out from > that point (if I'm explaining that clearly) > > Similar effects occur three times in the show and they're all > simple ( 2 > channels and between 5 and 7 steps per effect) > > I've tried it as an effect cue, an effect sub and a sub-on-sub > (subroutine on submaster) with the same result. > > With the sub-on-sub I could manually get the desired result by pulling > down the submaster. However, we're going to be using SFX > showcontrol to > run the desk so I'm looking to automate this. > > Any suggestions as to what I'm missing would be greatly appreciated as > we have our first preview tomorrow night. > > Thanks, > Stuart B > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 10:00:59 -0400 From: "Frank E. Merrill" Reply-To: "Frank E. Merrill" Message-ID: <973608852.20060610100059 [at] tcon.net> Cc: alf.sauve [at] mindspring.com (Alf Sauve) Subject: Re: 500 yards In-Reply-To: References:

Howdy ! Friday, June 9, 2006, Alf Sauve wrote: > Check my math: > 1,500 ft at an angle of 0.5 degrees > SIN(0.5)*1500ft*12in/ft = 157inches First, I REALLY apologize for blowing air into this pile of feathers. Second, the original exclamation was 1/2 minute of angle, not 1/2 degree. A minute is 1/60 degree and is also knows as sixty seconds. One-half minute would then be thirty seconds of angle. According to my quick layout in AutoCad a few days ago, thirty seconds of angle at a distance of 1500 feet is a span of 2-5/8" Last, I appreciate all of the discussion and clarification on this type of marksmanship and traditions of military service. I attempted to sign up for military service in August of 1969 but, because of a congenital condition I was declared 4-F. I've always felt the sense that I didn't hold up my end of the ladder but those that held their end so valiantly tell me I really didn't miss much. For those that served, regardless of where or what they served and regardless whether they be able to read this or not, Thank You for your service. Best regards, Frank E. Merrill MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT Indianapolis Established 1946 www.merrillstage.com Running THE BAT! Natural e-mail system v.3.65.03 mailto:Lamplighter [at] tcon.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 10:04:50 -0400 From: "Frank E. Merrill" Reply-To: "Frank E. Merrill" Message-ID: <626457221.20060610100450 [at] tcon.net> Subject: Re: airplane In-Reply-To: References: Howdy ! Saturday, June 10, 2006, it was written: >On my last flight via Northwest (August 2006), they only offered >complimentary beverages (soda, water, tea, coffee) and made you pay >for a box of snacks. Obviously, that traveler was going to attend a conference of the Time Travelers Society. I got an e-mail from their listserv this morning, notifying my that the conference has been rescheduled to February of 2003. Drat! I'm scheduled to go skiing that weekend! Best regards, Frank E. Merrill MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT Indianapolis Established 1946 www.merrillstage.com Running THE BAT! Natural e-mail system v.3.65.03 mailto:Lamplighter [at] tcon.net ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1701.205.215.255.59.1149949565.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 07:26:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: 500 yards From: "Bill Nelson" > I doubt you fired the M-16 in '66. The M-14 most > likely. They are much more accurate at long distances. > If I remember correctly, the round from an M-16 begins > to tumble at distances. That could tear a nasty hole > at 300-500 yards. He might have. The USAF was using the M-16 in '65. The early version has stabilization problems, but that disappeared when they changed the twist of the rifling. Bill ------------------------------ From: "Steven Santos" Subject: RE: How to ground a moving sound system Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:11:36 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: http://www.aws.org/technical/facts/FACT-29.PDF http://www.usbr.gov/power/data/fist/fist5_13/5-13.pdf ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Steven Santos Director, Simply Circus, Inc. Email: Steven [at] SimplyCircus.com Mail: PO BOX 620753 Newton, MA 02462 Phone: 781-799-4938 eFax: 309-214-0899 Web: www.SimplyCircus.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Clive > Mitchell > Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 6:08 PM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Re: How to ground a moving sound system > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > In message , Jerry Durand > writes > >Since I've often seen petrol-powered welders used as generators, I'm > >not sure how you'd ground them. Sometimes they're mounted to the > >truck, sometimes on a trailer. In any case, when you're welding or > >using power with an extension cord, do these need a ground stake when > >they're not moving? > > > >The steel company my wife used to work for had a welder on their truck > >that they used for installing fence/gates/etc. and also used for > >general power. They never had a ground stake, for one thing they had > >to keep moving the truck as each piece of fence was put in place. > > There are cases where workmen have been electrocuted when something > being powered by a generator on the back of their truck has developed an > earth fault and they've completed the return path. In one a joiner was > killed when a cable leading to his power tool was crushed and shorted to > the ground. He touched the truck and died. > > In the case of a welding generator the actual welding supply is low > voltage at high current and the welders are often wearing heavy > gauntlets anyway, but that doesn't protect against the appliance power. > > It's really common to see guys with generators in the back of their > truck and poorly maintained equipment. There's no point in even trying > to explain the danger. If they won't even take care of their equipment > then they aren't likely to bother with an earth rod or plate. (Or > RCD/GFI) > > -- > Clive Mitchell > http://www.bigclive.com > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <764522094.1149956381790.JavaMail.root [at] fepweb08> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 9:19:41 -0700 From: Subject: Amplifier and Speakers Noise boys/girls, I have two questions: 1. I am looking for an amplifier to replace our house monitor system. It is a 70 volt system. All I want to do is replace the amp. Our current amp is an Edcor PA 50B power amplifier. I don't need an audiophile quality amp, I had an Edcor, just something that will last. 2. I need to replace our "stage monitors". We currently have some old, old Bose 802's. I like the size, shape and color, but not the name brand. We use the speakers for sound effects and monitors for dance shows. They are powered by a QSC RMX 1450. Once again, it doesn't need to be rock star, just something that will last. Thanks in advance, Steve Schepker Associate Professor Southeastern Louisiana University ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:23:56 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Mobil Generator Grounding In-reply-to: Message-id: <7.0.1.0.0.20060610092029.01ed1d50 [at] interstellar.com> References:

At 12:01 AM 6/10/2006, Roger L. Lattin wrote: >One way that I would conect valuable audio equipment up to a small >generator is to use several small computer battery type UPSs between >the generator and the equipment. This keeps all of the weird power >away from the audio equipment. I've seen problems with some UPS/generator combos. If the load suddenly increases, the generator voltage sags until the engine catches up. This causes the UPS to transfer to battery. This removes all load from the generator, which now cuts back to idle. The UPS sees good line voltage again and switches the full load onto to the generator which now really sags. This goes on until something breaks. -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com 219 Oak Wood Way, Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001501c68cab$5e573e70$6401a8c0 [at] amd2200> From: "Idaho Scenic & Rigging" Cc: Lamplighter [at] tcon.net (Frank E. Merrill) References:

Subject: Re: airplane Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 10:31:42 -0600 Following the TTS regulations I will also be in Indianapolis in early Sept of 2005 Just before I join this list Look for the 1929 DC-2 with the female flight attendant offering Peanut Tofu-ham Sandwiches Hope to have been there, Rob't > Saturday, June 10, 2006, it was written: > > >On my last flight via Northwest (August 2006), they only offered > >complimentary beverages (soda, water, tea, coffee) and made you pay > >for a box of snacks. > > Obviously, that traveler was going to attend a conference of the Time > Travelers Society. I got an e-mail from their listserv this morning, > notifying my that the conference has been rescheduled to February of > 2003. Drat! I'm scheduled to go skiing that weekend! > > Frank E. Merrill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <448AF450.4080200 [at] dreampossible.ca> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:33:20 -0400 From: Jim Hyslop Organization: Dreampossible Inc. Subject: Re: laser measure References:

In-Reply-To: Jerry Durand wrote: > I haven't looked into the commercial units either, but you'd be > surprised at what can be timed with modern chips. I once had an idea for a laser range finder, which would emit a series of pulses. The range finder would simply measure the phase difference between the emitted pulse and the received pulse. I calculated that a phase differentiator with about the accuracy of the colour adjustment on a TV set would likely be sufficient. Those have been around for, what, 50 or 60 years? -- Jim Hyslop ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002101c68cac$6e103fa0$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References:

Subject: Re: airplane Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:39:23 -0700 > Following the TTS regulations I will also be in Indianapolis > in early Sept of 2005 > Just before I join this list > Look for the 1929 DC-2 with the female flight attendant > offering Peanut Tofu-ham Sandwiches I just received my itinerary for my flight to London on April 5, 2003, which I'll be leaving June 14, 2007. I have a layover at Lakehurst, New Jersey on May 6, 1937. Anyone have any suggestions for sights/events I should look into? Anything I should avoid? - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 10:01:15 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: laser measure In-reply-to: Message-id: <7.0.1.0.0.20060610100019.011c0378 [at] interstellar.com> References:

At 09:33 AM 6/10/2006, Jim Hyslop wrote: >I once had an idea for a laser range finder, which would emit a series >of pulses. The range finder would simply measure the phase difference >between the emitted pulse and the received pulse. I calculated that a >phase differentiator with about the accuracy of the colour adjustment on >a TV set would likely be sufficient. Those have been around for, what, >50 or 60 years? Laser interferometer. Counts the interference beats. Trick is, it's only differential, so you have to have a starting point. -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com 219 Oak Wood Way, Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand ------------------------------ Message-ID: <448B0783.7080504 [at] sbcglobal.net> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:55:15 -0500 From: Kenneth Zinkl Subject: Re: Mobil Generator Grounding References:

In-Reply-To: Jerry Durand wrote: > I've seen problems with some UPS/generator combos. If the load > suddenly increases, the generator voltage sags until the engine > catches up. This causes the UPS to transfer to battery. This removes > all load from the generator, which now cuts back to idle. The UPS sees > good line voltage again and switches the full load onto to the > generator which now really sags. This goes on until something breaks. If I recall correctly (I don't use generators much) don't most generators have a switch on them that turns off the auto regulation? This would put the engine at full power all the time so you would use more gas but that should take care of all of the voltage drops. Or would doing this cause other problems beside running out of gas half way through the parade? Ken Z ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 13:56:53 -0400 Subject: Re: 500 yards From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: 1960 Gen LeMay procures 8000 AR-15 rifles for USAF SAC, 1962 1000 AR-15's sent to Vietnam for field testing, 1963 nearly 100000 rifles sent to US Army and USAF, 1967 M-16 adopted as official as standard US rifle, 1965-67 pessimistic reports from Vietnam- powder used in rounds was fouling rifles, 1967-70 problems were solved and rifles were mass produced replacing M-14. Steve > From: "Bill Nelson" > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" > Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 07:26:05 -0700 (PDT) > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Re: 500 yards ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 14:23:59 -0400 Subject: Re: 500 yards From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: I'm coming into this thread late and have been too busy to read the whole thread. But My Father-in-Law swore by his M1-Garand. He claims to have (and who am I to dispute it) held off the Chinese army with it as the marines retreated (I know organized withdrawal) out of the Chosin Reservoir. He was 187th Rakassan and Doug pinned the Silver Star on him himself. Apparently the only reason he didn't get the CMH was that there were no officers of sufficient rank left alive to recommend him for it. He took me out to a quarry to teach me to shoot. Unfortunately for me my girlfriend, his daughter, had apparently just told her Catholic Papa that we were sleeping together. To this day I'm amazed I wasn't just given a 30 second head start. _H On 6/10/06 1:56 PM, "Steve Larson" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > 1960 Gen LeMay procures 8000 AR-15 rifles for USAF SAC, > 1962 1000 AR-15's sent to Vietnam for field testing, > 1963 nearly 100000 rifles sent to US Army and USAF, > 1967 M-16 adopted as official as standard US rifle, > 1965-67 pessimistic reports from Vietnam- powder used in > rounds was fouling rifles, > 1967-70 problems were solved and rifles > were mass produced replacing M-14. > > Steve > >> From: "Bill Nelson" >> Reply-To: "Stagecraft" >> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 07:26:05 -0700 (PDT) >> To: "Stagecraft" >> Subject: Re: 500 yards > > -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Message-ID: <003c01c68cbc$4ea4eed0$6401a8c0 [at] amd2200> From: "Idaho Scenic & Rigging" References: Subject: Re: 500 yards Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:32:56 -0600 When you're having a bad day and it seems like people are trying to piss you off at every turn, remember: it takes 42 muscles to frown and only 4 to pull the trigger of a decent sniper rifle. (Lauren Muglia) Rob't ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herrick Goldman" > But My Father-in-Law swore by his M1-Garand. He claims to have (and who am I > to dispute it) held off the Chinese army with it as the marines retreated (I > know organized withdrawal) out of the Chosin Reservoir. > > He took me out to a quarry to teach me to shoot. Unfortunately for me my > girlfriend, his daughter, had apparently just told her Catholic Papa that we > were sleeping together. To this day I'm amazed I wasn't just given a 30 > second head start. > > _H > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <004301c68cbc$e3926400$6401a8c0 [at] amd2200> From: "Idaho Scenic & Rigging" References:

Subject: Re: airplane Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:37:08 -0600 ----- Original Message ----- > > > Following the TTS regulations I will also be in Indianapolis > > in early Sept of 2005 > > Just before I join this list > > Look for the 1929 DC-2 with the female flight attendant > > offering Peanut Tofu-ham Sandwiches > > > I just received my itinerary for my flight to London on April 5, 2003, which > I'll be leaving June 14, 2007. I have a layover at Lakehurst, New Jersey on > May 6, 1937. Anyone have any suggestions for sights/events I should look > into? Anything I should avoid? > > - Jon Ares > "Anything I should avoid?" Jet Lag ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1908.205.215.255.59.1149964843.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:40:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: laser measure From: "Bill Nelson" > I once had an idea for a laser range finder, which would emit a series > of pulses. The range finder would simply measure the phase difference > between the emitted pulse and the received pulse. I calculated that a > phase differentiator with about the accuracy of the colour adjustment on > a TV set would likely be sufficient. Those have been around for, what, > 50 or 60 years? Well, seeing that the wavelength of light is a minute fraction of an inch, I suspect you would have problems telling just which wave crest you were measuring. Why worry about phase, when a simple timing circuit is all that is needed? Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20060610191150.20053.qmail [at] web36608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:11:50 -0700 (PDT) From: jon weaver I am currently working on a side project where I have to stip a lot of moldings in a very short time. They need to be stripped to the wood (stainable). This is colonial style molding with ogi type curves. Do any of you know the best brand or technique with this. I suggested buying new. (this didn't fly). I am typically an electrician this job was supposed to be electrical work with a LITTLE repainting, but hey work is work. If any of you can help me out with this it will be a big help. Thanks, -Jon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:27:22 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Tool marking warning Message-id: <07E8CAC5-EC4F-4C90-9D22-E4C7EFEBF909 [at] interstellar.com> We saw a very inexpensive battery driver/drill in a local store and since we sometimes need one extra drill from time to time, figured it was worth a shot. It was prominently marked "18vt." on the packaging, drill motor, and battery pack. While this does work for the small jobs we got it for, it is NOT 18 Volts, it is 6 Volts (I measured the pack and the charger). Apparently the "18vt." is a model number or something, assuming they weren't just lying about it. -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. Los Gatos, California, USA, www.interstellar.com tel: +1-408-356-3886, USA toll free: 1-866-356-3886 skype: jerrydurand ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060610131101.00c02fe0 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 13:11:01 From: CB Subject: Re: 500 yards > But he was hitting a man sized target in the >chest at a mile and a half (3000 yards) with half a >bottle of scotch in him, no less! Which is the best way to shoot targets. Small bits of info, the M82A1's effective range is about half that (1500M on a man-sized target, 2000M on 'materiel'), and the record shot is (officially) 2500M. (Officially) the M82A1 is never to be used on personell. It is (officially) and anti-materiel weapon. The new M107 (beefier .50 based on the Barrett M82Ax, but manufactured to closer toleraences and built stronger, lighter, smaller, etc, yadayadayada) has an effective range of 1800+M See it here: >BTW Chris, the closest range to me is The Final >Option, on Valencia. Most of AZ is range, buddy. Anyplace that isn't privately owned or state park that has a reliable backstop is 'range'. I've a dozen (or so) broken VCR's and a couple big-screen TV's that need to find a new 'home on the range'. Somehow, O don't think that "The Final Option" is gonna let me bring 'em... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060610131737.00c02fe0 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 13:17:37 From: CB Subject: Re: 500 yards >1,500 ft at an angle of 0.5 degrees >SIN(0.5)*1500ft*12in/ft = 157inches >The Rule of Thumb I've used is 1/60of a degree works out to about 1" at >100yds. Your math is correct, so is your ROT. Use '0.5 MOA' (Minute of Angle) instead of '0.5 degrees' and you'll get somethinga bit closer. My bad... 1 MOA (or 1/60th of a degree) at 300ft is about right. ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <413.34d1743.31bc86da [at] aol.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:34:34 EDT Subject: Re: Mobil Generator Grounding In a message dated 6/10/06 7:55:49 PM W. Europe Daylight Time, kzinkl [at] sbcglobal.net writes: << If I recall correctly (I don't use generators much) don't most generators have a switch on them that turns off the auto regulation? This would put the engine at full power all the time so you would use more gas but that should take care of all of the voltage drops. Or would doing this cause other problems beside running out of gas half way through the parade? >> It's a difficult problem, and requires a good understanding of engineering, and partitucularly of servo-mechanisms. I remember a colleague wrestling with a big generator on the power take off of a Land Rover, trying to get an auto-throttle to work properly. ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <305.59e9105.31bc88bf [at] aol.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:42:39 EDT Subject: Re: 500 yards In a message dated 6/10/06 8:19:10 PM W. Europe Daylight Time, Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com writes: << I'm coming into this thread late and have been too busy to read the whole thread. >> As am I. But the British Army fought its way through North Africa, and much of Europe, with 0.303 Lee-Enfield rifles, not very different from those in use in the 1914-18 war. ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <372.52e9ef6.31bc8cbe [at] aol.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:59:42 EDT Subject: General apologies Apologies are due from me to anyone who has posted an e-mail towards me over the last few days, whether personally or through a mailing list. We have just moved to France, for some months. At the same time, we have taken out a broadband subscription, and acquired a wireless modem. Complete catastrophe ensued. The software reacted badly together, to the extent that it took me two days to persuade my computer to wake up sufficiently to be able to remove the offending software, and anothe half day to restore the systems. Why, I do not know. ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Occy" References: Subject: Re: General apologies Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 14:18:28 -0700 Frank, welcome to the world of computers! Wait until the day the computer decides to write thing any place it wants too, to the hard drive. ----- Original Message ----- From: > > Apologies are due from me to anyone who has posted an e-mail towards me > over > the last few days, whether personally or through a mailing list. We have > just > moved to France, for some months. At the same time, we have taken out a > broadband subscription, and acquired a wireless modem. Complete > catastrophe ensued. > The software reacted badly together, to the extent that it took me two > days to > persuade my computer to wake up sufficiently to be able to remove the > offending software, and anothe half day to restore the systems. Why, I do > not know. > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 14:33:30 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: solar parts Message-id: <33AE3CF1-3542-4E1B-A7D7-AC5E96C4AD05 [at] interstellar.com> We're about to pull down 4 old leaking solar panels prior to re- roofing. If anyone needs eight 4 x 5 foot tempered glass panels in good shape and/or the copper plate innards or even the whole thing... they will be free to pick up here (no shipping). Contact me off list. Picture here: http://interstellar.com/ebay/Solar.jpg (that's a 3 foot ruler sitting on the collector) -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. Los Gatos, California, USA, www.interstellar.com tel: +1-408-356-3886, USA toll free: 1-866-356-3886 skype: jerrydurand ------------------------------ Message-ID: <448B4698.3030603 [at] gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 18:24:24 -0400 From: Brian James Reply-To: brianedwardjames [at] gmail.com Subject: Re: Amplifier and Speakers References: In-Reply-To: Look into the QSC stuff, they have nice amps (installation series) and some nice speakers. Hate to say it, but if you just want something that will last and perfect signal reproduction is not important, check out Peavey. For all of their imperfections, I have found the gear to be VERY durable. sschepker [at] charter.net wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Noise boys/girls, > > I have two questions: > > 1. I am looking for an amplifier to replace our house monitor system. It is a 70 volt system. All I want to do is replace the amp. Our current amp is an Edcor PA 50B power amplifier. I don't need an audiophile quality amp, I had an Edcor, just something that will last. > > 2. I need to replace our "stage monitors". We currently have some old, old Bose 802's. I like the size, shape and color, but not the name brand. We use the speakers for sound effects and monitors for dance shows. They are powered by a QSC RMX 1450. Once again, it doesn't need to be rock star, just something that will last. > > Thanks in advance, > Steve Schepker > Associate Professor > Southeastern Louisiana University > > ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:17:06 -0400 From: "Jeffrey Kanyuck" Subject: Re: Asbestos Exposure When they were removing asbestos at my previous job they had to hire a contractor that was certified by the state for safe removal. That contractor had to set up air samplers through out the building for the duration of removal to test for asbestos in areas that weren't even connected to the building part with the asbestos they were removing. No one was allowed to enter the building except the contractors people untill the building was declared clear by the test results after the asbestos was removed and everything taken out. They even had to get rid of the pipes the asbestos had been on. And all this was done for the type of asbestos that doesn't cause cancer. If memory serves right there are four types. Jeff >>> Jason.Salvatori [at] vaughan.ca 06/09/06 6:31 PM >>> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- > They are currently removing the asbestos from the pipe. >1. What should I do to protect myself? >2. What should I tell my crew? >3. Who should be notified? >4. What is my next step? I'm not sure who you notify in your area, however I do know that you and your crew should not be in the building while the material is being removed, Unless they are in an area that does not share ventilation with the affected area. In fact, no one should be in there unless they are in protective suits with contained air or filtration masks with the appropriate filters. Assuming the removal is being done by a qualified asbestos removal contractor, they should also be able to deal with the clean-up afterwards. This is when the danger level is highest - the danger is from airborne particles, so the stuff stuck to your masking etc. Is safe while it's stuck there - it becomes dangerous when someone next drops the masking to fold it/ move it etc. All surfaces with asbestos dust on them should be cleaned with a vacuum with a PROPER filter in place. Vacuuming with a regular vacuum will release MORE in to the air than just leaving it alone. Your best bet is to talk to the people removing the asbestos (again, Assuming the removal is being done by a qualified asbestos removal contractor) for further information HTH Jason Salvatori Technical Director City Playhouse Work: 905-326-7469 Fax: 905-882-7949 __________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail, including any attachment(s), may be confidential and is intended solely for the attention and information of the named addressee(s). If you are not the intended recipient or have received this message in error, please notify me immediately by return e-mail and permanently delete the original transmission from your computer, including any attachment(s). Any unauthorized distribution, disclosure or copying of this message and attachment(s) by anyone other than the recipient is strictly prohibited. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20060610162018.rbk9ww4okow8oo0w [at] www.email.arizona.edu> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:20:18 -0700 From: Mark O'Brien Subject: Re: solar parts References: In-Reply-To: And if you only want to drive to Tucson, I have 2 similar ones here. Same price. Mark-O Quoting Jerry Durand : > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > We're about to pull down 4 old leaking solar panels prior to re- > roofing. If anyone needs eight 4 x 5 foot tempered glass panels in > good shape and/or the copper plate innards or even the whole thing... > they will be free to pick up here (no shipping). Contact me off list. > > Picture here: http://interstellar.com/ebay/Solar.jpg (that's a 3 > foot ruler sitting on the collector) > > -- > Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. > Los Gatos, California, USA, www.interstellar.com > tel: +1-408-356-3886, USA toll free: 1-866-356-3886 > skype: jerrydurand Mark O'Brien Opera Technical Director University of Arizona, School of Music 520-621-7025 520-591-1803 Mobile http://www.myspace.com/marko66 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <84c790f30606101718u7953025bubfeba7c655d03ccd [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 20:18:01 -0400 From: "Shawn King" Subject: Re: airplane In-Reply-To: References:

On 6/10/06, Jon Ares wrote: > I just received my itinerary for my flight to London on April 5, 2003, which > I'll be leaving June 14, 2007. I have a layover at Lakehurst, New Jersey on > May 6, 1937. Anyone have any suggestions for sights/events I should look > into? Anything I should avoid? I would advise against airships filled with hydrogen. Just my $.02 SK ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Michael de Almeida Subject: Re: Amplifier and Speakers Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 20:22:11 -0400 Hello, For 70 v backstage monitors I kinda like the TOA 900 series. You can get one with a built in mixer that makes a nice all in one unit. They have a modular input stage so you can just slide in the modules you need. i.e. Line in, Mic in, phantom power, etc. The come in 30, 60 and 120 watts. For stage speakers, it all depends on what you want to do with them, acoustics of the space and so on. I tend to favor EAW for speakers, but you have to do some research for specific model. Just a few suggestions. - Mike de Almeida ATD/ME/MA Theaterworks, Hartford ------------------------------ From: "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" Subject: RE: solar parts Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 21:01:53 -0400 Message-ID: <00b901c68cf2$a112dca0$7f9bfea9 [at] p3m866> In-reply-to: Geez, you guys. I'd take 'em in a flash. But I's in Toronto. Sigh. > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf > Of Mark O'Brien > Sent: June 10, 2006 7:20 PM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Re: solar parts > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > And if you only want to drive to Tucson, I have 2 similar ones here. > Same price. > > Mark-O > > Quoting Jerry Durand : > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > We're about to pull down 4 old leaking solar panels prior to re- > > roofing. If anyone needs eight 4 x 5 foot tempered glass panels in > > good shape and/or the copper plate innards or even the > whole thing... > > they will be free to pick up here (no shipping). Contact > me off list. > > > > Picture here: http://interstellar.com/ebay/Solar.jpg > (that's a 3 foot > > ruler sitting on the collector) > > > > -- > > Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. > > Los Gatos, California, USA, www.interstellar.com > > tel: +1-408-356-3886, USA toll free: 1-866-356-3886 > > skype: jerrydurand > > > > Mark O'Brien > Opera Technical Director > University of Arizona, School of Music > 520-621-7025 > 520-591-1803 Mobile > http://www.myspace.com/marko66 > > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <448B6FBE.5090305 [at] williams.edu> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 21:19:58 -0400 From: Maia Robbins-Zust Subject: Looking for a CAD symbol Hi all: I'm yet another person looking for a CAD/VectorWorks symbol. I currently need a symbol for a Rosco I-Cue, preferably both 2d and 3d, but I'll take just 2d if you might now where one is. I tried e-mailing Rosco for one, but so far have not gotten a response. If you know of one, Please e-mail me off list as I'm a digest reader. Thanks! Maia Robbins-Zust Technical Director Mahaiwe Performing Arts Center Berkshire Opera Company Williams College Dept. of Theatre ------------------------------ Message-ID: <8231e7ea0606101850i38eee090i43530370bba6f813 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 21:50:48 -0400 From: SS Subject: Slo-Mo Beer Cannon Montage So at first I was thinking... "wow, what an incredible waste of beer!" Then I realized it was Milwaukee's Best, so I no longer cared, and this video clip was nothing but cool. Enjoy folks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zxlFoZhOC4 -SS TTS-EKU "Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car." ------------------------------ Message-ID: <448B83D2.9000309 [at] dreampossible.ca> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:45:38 -0400 From: Jim Hyslop Organization: Dreampossible Inc. Subject: Re: laser measure References:

In-Reply-To: Bill Nelson wrote: > Well, seeing that the wavelength of light is a minute fraction of an inch, > I suspect you would have problems telling just which wave crest you were > measuring. > > Why worry about phase, when a simple timing circuit is all that is needed? That's the point - it doesn't *matter* which wave crest you're measuring. By measuring the phase angle, you don't need to have sub-microsecond timing, and can use much simpler electronics. -- Jim Hyslop ------------------------------ Message-ID: <014701c68d02$9695d290$0b00a8c0 [at] chris> Reply-To: "chrisharris25" From: "chrisharris25" References: Subject: Re: Slo-Mo Beer Cannon Montage Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:56:07 -0400 That was hilarious! And a lot of work!!! You just can't go wrong with the 1812 Overture!!! Chris Harris Sapsis Rigging, Inc. ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Laura McMeley" Subject: RE: Lightning bolt effect Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 23:06:25 -0500 Message-ID: <035f01c68d0c$6889e7b0$6600a8c0 [at] tdolighting01> In-Reply-To: For those who are interested, here's the final solution for the low budget lightning bolt strikes antenna and kills actor effect. 1 Zenon strobe unit mounted directly above the antenna in the grid (the top of the antenna ended up being about 1' from the grid.) 1 White lightning photo flash unit hidden between the house and attached shed, focused on the actor getting shocked. 1 kick-ass sound effect with a sub-woofer right beside the shed. 1 actor doing lots of shaking before falling over backwards off the shed. Feedback is it made for a pretty good effect. Thanks for all the thoughts. Laura LD, Dallas, TX 972-333-5016 ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 23:44:58 -0700 From: NODEraser Reply-To: greg [at] hypersoft.zzn.com Subject: Re: airplane In-Reply-To: References: Oh, come on now. It was an honest mistake. BTW, the plane was an Airbus Tardis-319. On 6/10/06, Judy wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > >On my last flight via Northwest (August 2006), they only offered > >complimentary beverages (soda, water, tea, coffee) and made you pay > >for a box of snacks. > > > Hey what kind of plane was that? What year did you take off then? I > wouldn't mind paying for the snacks if it meant I could go back in time. > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1066.205.215.255.152.1150012699.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 00:58:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: laser measure From: "Bill Nelson" > That's the point - it doesn't *matter* which wave crest you're > measuring. By measuring the phase angle, you don't need to have > sub-microsecond timing, and can use much simpler electronics. I don't see how that would be sufficient information. Why wouldn't it matter? Bill ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #841 *****************************