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X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 31208134; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 03:02:10 -0700 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on localhost X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RECEIVED, NO_RELAYS,TW_AV autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Level: X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #846 Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 03:01:38 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #846 1. Re: Rigging Math by "Davis, Thomas J" 2. Re: Projection at NHL hockey game by Steve Larson 3. Re: We're going to live forever by "Kurt Cypher" 4. Re: Rigging Math by Paul Marsland 5. Re: We're going to live forever by "Paul Schreiner" 6. Re: Rigging Math by Mick Alderson 7. Re: Rigging Math by "Bill Nelson" 8. How Thanks is expressed on the Tonys by Phil Johnson 9. Re: How Thanks is expressed on the Tonys by Stephen Litterst 10. Re: How Thanks is expressed on the Tonys by iaeg [at] aol.com 11. Re: How Thanks is expressed on the Tonys by Phil Johnson 12. Re: How Thanks is expressed on the Tonys by Kevin Lee Allen 13. Re: Rigging Math by "Brian Munroe" 14. Re: Rigging Math by "DON EARL" 15. Re: Rigging math by Maia Robbins-Zust 16. Re: How Thanks is expressed on the Tonys by Steve Larson 17. Re: How Thanks is expressed on the Tonys by Christopher Haas CEHAAS 18. Re: How Thanks is expressed on the Tonys by "Delbert Hall" 19. Re: Rigging Math by CB 20. New style liquid nitrogen fogger. by Clive Mitchell 21. Re: Rigging Math by CB 22. Re: Rigging Math by CB 23. Re: Rigging Math by "Chris Kennedy" 24. AC Motor Noise by Mark Engler 25. Re: Rigging Math by "Delbert Hall" 26. Re: AC Motor Noise by "Frank E. Merrill" 27. Re: How Thanks is expressed on the Tonys by Herrick Goldman 28. Re: AC Motor Noise by Mark O'Brien 29. Re: AC Motor Noise by Clive Mitchell 30. Re: Rigging Math by Jerry Durand 31. Re: AC Motor Noise by "John Gibilisco" 32. The Tao Te Tech by "Gillian Koch" 33. Re: How Thanks is expressed on the Tonys by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 34. Re: How Thanks is expressed on the Tonys by "RD" 35. Re: How Thanks is expressed on the Tonys by "Klyph Stanford" 36. Re: How Thanks is expressed on the Tonys by Bill Sapsis *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Rigging Math Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 08:58:22 -0400 Message-ID: <3CF87682970858499CA56707FB1F092B019AD740 [at] wscc-s-003000.westshore.edu> From: "Davis, Thomas J" Doesn't it depend on whether it is an African or European swallow? Oh, wait, that only applies to air speed calculations. Seriously, I think I am going to save all the messages in this thread and hand them over to whoever next tells me I have an easy job. Tom D. -----Original Message----- > Na=3D(90-Nd/2)*3.14/180 > MF=3DNa-((Na*Na*Na)/6)+((Na * Na * Na * Na * Na)/120) > RF=3D2*Load*MF Phillip - This works and is much simpler. I can now solve this problem in less than three minutes. Fantastic. Many thanks. -Delbert --=20 Delbert L. Hall ZFX Flying Director Phone: 714-585-7070 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:12:07 -0400 Subject: Re: Projection at NHL hockey game From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: I was photographing the projections last night before game 5. When they finished I was rushing to get back down to my seats and was approached by a gentleman who was responsible for the designs. Daniel Angers was his name. He said they were 6KW PIGIs. He wants to buy photos of the projections. Now, just how badly does he want those photos, hmmmmmm? Steve > From: "Jonathan S. Deull" > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" > Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 07:52:36 -0400 > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Re: Projection at NHL hockey game > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > ...Last night at the Carolina/New Jersey hockey game, they had an > unbelievable projection before the game and during the > intermissions...Anyone know what they are using for projectors.... > > Steve: > > I believe, but could be wrong, that they were PIGI projectors, and the > design was by Bob Levac of Montreal. He happened to be exhibiting at USITT > in the booth next to ours, and we talked a lot about this system. He works > for Trizart Alliance: www.trizart-alliance.com. > > Jonathan > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > Jonathan S. Deull > jdeull [at] clarktransfer.com > www.clarktransfer.com/jsd/htm > > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:27:35 -0400 From: "Kurt Cypher" Cc: doomster [at] worldnet.att.net Subject: Re: We're going to live forever In-Reply-To: References:

On 6/14/06, RD wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Does not Guinness relieve all ails (oops, ales). Doom > The question is, what type of beer were these experiments done with? American "making-love-in-a-canoe" beer? American micro-brewery beer (somewhat better), or something from the other side of the pond? It's possible that the component that provides the health benefit might be found in greater (or lesser) quantities in different types of beer. A good British ale might have more (or less) of the substance than Budweiser's flavored alcoholic water. I'm thinking more experimentation is in order. Kurt ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20060615143015.68462.qmail [at] web52213.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 07:30:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Marsland Subject: Re: Rigging Math In-Reply-To: Hey - I know a few MFs by heart too! There was that guy on Seussical, and lets see, my 2nd year grad schhol advisor, and the PM on the most recent gospel show we did... Paul > Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 17:39:43 -0400 > From: "Delbert Hall" > Now, I know a few MFs by heart: __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Subject: RE: We're going to live forever Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:54:44 -0400 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A042A9CAC [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> In-Reply-To: From: "Paul Schreiner" > The question is, what type of beer were these experiments=20 > done with?=20 *Most* of the reports of studies I've seen on the subject seem to show more benefits from either hoppier beers (IPAs, for example--where it's the oils in the hops that provide whatever measured benefit) or darker ones (where it's the tannins, similar to tea). > I'm thinking more experimentation is in order. Can I volunteer? ------------------------------ Message-ID: <44917937.9020205 [at] uwosh.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:13:59 -0500 From: Mick Alderson Subject: Re: Rigging Math Delbert wrote: > >>> Na=(90-Nd/2)*3.14/180 >>> MF=Na-((Na*Na*Na)/6)+((Na * Na * Na * Na * Na)/120) >>> RF=2*Load*MF > > > Phillip - This works and is much simpler. I can now solve this > problem in less than three minutes. Fantastic. Many thanks. > > -Delbert Ahhh! This is why I use a CAD program as my "weapon of choice" for vector addition! Draw it out in scale and measure it. Just a high tech protractor and scale rule! 'Course, ETCP won't let you bring that to a test, either. Guess I'll stick to Electrics! It's mostly algebra! :-p -- Mick Alderson TD, Fredric March Theatre University of Wis. Oshkosh ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3093.205.215.254.59.1150385398.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 08:29:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Rigging Math From: "Bill Nelson" >> Sin(N)=N-N^3/3!+N^5/5!-N^7/7!+N^9/9!-N^11/11!... > What does the ! mean in this equation? It normally indicates that it is a factorial. 3! = 3x2 = 6 5! = 5x4x3x2 = 120 7! = 7x6x5x4x3x2 = 5040 As you can see, the divisor gets large quite rapidly. Bill ------------------------------ Message-Id: <07931da8f45a1f61c950d1a8a7d2a20f [at] mail.tamucc.edu> From: Phil Johnson Subject: How Thanks is expressed on the Tonys Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 11:25:13 -0500 I haven't seen much commenting on the Tony awards, Did we agree to not talk about them and I missed it. I just wanted to comment that after watching it the British Theater folks seem to be the most appreciative of the crew and the designer folks. Many British actors and performers I know have mentioned how important the component of tech was to their training. Why is it in this country that there is a group that doesn't appreciate the entire project? Just asking. I won't go into the sound not a category question. Philip Johnson Designer/Technical Director Texas A & M -Corpus Christi ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 12:31:13 -0400 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: How Thanks is expressed on the Tonys In-reply-to: Message-id: <44918B51.8070803 [at] ithaca.edu> References: Phil Johnson wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > I just wanted to comment that after watching it the British Theater > folks seem to be the most appreciative of the crew and the designer > folks. Many British actors and performers I know have mentioned how > important the component of tech was to their training. Why is it in > this country that there is a group that doesn't appreciate the entire > project? Just asking. I noticed that, too. I don't know how the British system works, but the common thread of all US awards shows is the rising importance of the manager/agent. After all, thanking the tech staff doesn't get you another role. My favorite acknowledgment speeches are the ones that appear less rehearsed and more spontaneous. Reading off a list of staffers at William Morris doesn't tell us excited you are about the award, but talking about how this moment connects you with your father again is much more interesting. Just my thoughts, Steve L. -- Stephen Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College, Theatre Arts 607.274.3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 12:38:09 -0400 Message-Id: <8C85EB13879F038-478-2CC6 [at] MBLK-M09.sysops.aol.com> From: iaeg [at] aol.com References:

In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: How Thanks is expressed on the Tonys one of the winners, ,. Best Featured Actress in a Musical. ( don't=20 recall her name ) . whom I will assume is American , although the show=20 originated in Canada ( Drowsy Chaperone) started her acceptance speech=20 with a grandiose.... "first of all, , I want to thank all the back stage people" which got a huge hand from the Radio City balcony..... very best, Keith Arsenault International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida USA 813 831 3465 office -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Litterst To: Stagecraft Sent: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 12:31:13 -0400 Subject: Re: How Thanks is expressed on the Tonys For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see=20 =C2=A0 ---------------------------------------------------=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Phil Johnson wrote:=C2=A0 > ---------------------------------------------------=C2=A0 > I just wanted to comment that after watching it the British Theater=20 > folks seem to be the most appreciative of the crew and the designer >=20 folks. Many British actors and performers I know have mentioned how >=20 important the component of tech was to their training. Why is it in >=20 this country that there is a group that doesn't appreciate the entire >=20 project? Just asking.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I noticed that, too. I don't know how the British system works, but=20 the common thread of all US awards shows is the rising importance of=20 the manager/agent. After all, thanking the tech staff doesn't get you=20 another role.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 My favorite acknowledgment speeches are the ones that appear less=20 rehearsed and more spontaneous. Reading off a list of staffers at=20 William Morris doesn't tell us excited you are about the award, but=20 talking about how this moment connects you with your father again is=20 much more interesting.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Just my thoughts,=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Steve L.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 -- Stephen Litterst=C2=A0 Technical Supervisor=C2=A0 Ithaca College, Theatre Arts=C2=A0 607.274.3947=C2=A0 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu=C2=A0 ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email=20 and IM. All on demand. Always Free. ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References:

Message-Id: <15193decad3eb9ffc9aaadeeb0007341 [at] mail.tamucc.edu> From: Phil Johnson Subject: Re: How Thanks is expressed on the Tonys Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 11:50:21 -0500 On Jun 15, 2006, at 11:38 AM, iaeg [at] aol.com wrote: > "first of all, , I want to thank all the back stage people" I did notice that too. But what strikes me about the awards is that so often the pure director only types often only mention their assistants and the producers. I guess its a different world. I know there are people who do thank the crew and designers but at such a public affair and high profile event you see whose bread gets buttered Philip Johnson Designer/Technical Director Texas A & M -Corpus Christi ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 13:04:10 -0400 From: Kevin Lee Allen Subject: Re: How Thanks is expressed on the Tonys In-reply-to: Message-id: References:

Beth Leavel On Jun 15, 2006, at 12:38 PM, iaeg [at] aol.com wrote: > one of the winners, ,. Best Featured Actress in a Musical. > ( don't recall her name ) . whom I will assume is American , > although the show originated in Canada ( Drowsy Chaperone) started > her acceptance speech with a grandiose.... > > "first of all, , I want to thank all the back stage people" > > which got a huge hand from the Radio City balcony..... ----- Kevin Lee Allen Architect of Dreams http://www.klad.com 973.744.6352.voice 201.280.3841.mobile klad [at] klad.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 13:13:13 -0400 From: "Brian Munroe" Subject: Re: Rigging Math In-Reply-To: References: >. The only articles provided > are an a scale ruler, simple calculator, paper and pencil. Without a trig calculator and without knowing Phillip's new formulas, I would do my best to estimate the given angle in a vector diagram. It is pretty easy to layout a 90 or 45 degree line in a diagram, and I would take my best shot at approximating what ever angle I needed and then use the scale rule. Not very accurate, but might be close enough to a given answer to pick the correct choice. Brian Munroe bpmunroe [at] gmail.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2013757569-1150391994-cardhu_blackberry.rim.net-23494- [at] engine08-cell01> Reply-To: DONEARL01 [at] aol.com References:

In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Rigging Math From: "DON EARL" Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 17:21:53 +0000 GMT KA0KQmxhY2tCZXJyeSBzZXJ2aWNlIHByb3ZpZGVkIGJ5IE5leHRlbA0KRWFybCBHaXJscyBJbmMu IFRoZWF0cmljYWwgRXF1aXBtZW50DQoxNjQ4IFdoaXRlIEhvcnNlIFBpa2UNClAuTy4gQm94IDI5 Nw0KRWdnIEhhcmJvciBDaXR5LCBOSiAwODIxNS0wMjk3DQo2MDkgOTY1LTY5MDAgZmF4IDYwOSA5 NjUtMzMzMA0Kd3d3LmVhcmxnaXJscy5jb20NCg0KDQotLS0tLU9yaWdpbmFsIE1lc3NhZ2UtLS0t LQ0KRnJvbTogIkJyaWFuIE11bnJvZSIgPGJwbXVucm9lQGdtYWlsLmNvbT4NCkRhdGU6IFRodSwg MTUgSnVuIDIwMDYgMTM6MTM6MTMgDQpUbzoiU3RhZ2VjcmFmdCIgPHN0YWdlY3JhZnRAdGhlYXRy aWNhbC5uZXQ+DQpTdWJqZWN0OiBSZTogUmlnZ2luZyBNYXRoDQoNCkZvciBpbmZvLCBhcmNoaXZl cyAmIFVOU1VCU0NSSUJFLCBzZWUgPGh0dHA6Ly9zdGFnZWNyYWZ0LnRoZXByaWNlcy5uZXQvPg0K LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tDQoNCj4u ICBUaGUgb25seSBhcnRpY2xlcyBwcm92aWRlZA0KPiBhcmUgYW4gYSBzY2FsZSBydWxlciwgc2lt cGxlIGNhbGN1bGF0b3IsICBwYXBlciBhbmQgcGVuY2lsLg0KDQpXaXRob3V0IGEgdHJpZyBjYWxj dWxhdG9yIGFuZCB3aXRob3V0IGtub3dpbmcgUGhpbGxpcCdzIG5ldyBmb3JtdWxhcywNCkkgd291 bGQgZG8gbXkgYmVzdCB0byBlc3RpbWF0ZSB0aGUgZ2l2ZW4gYW5nbGUgaW4gYSB2ZWN0b3IgZGlh Z3JhbS4NCg0KSXQgaXMgcHJldHR5IGVhc3kgdG8gbGF5b3V0IGEgOTAgb3IgNDUgZGVncmVlIGxp bmUgaW4gYSBkaWFncmFtLCBhbmQgSQ0Kd291bGQgdGFrZSBteSBiZXN0IHNob3QgYXQgYXBwcm94 aW1hdGluZyB3aGF0IGV2ZXIgYW5nbGUgSSBuZWVkZWQgYW5kDQp0aGVuIHVzZSB0aGUgc2NhbGUg cnVsZS4NCg0KTm90IHZlcnkgYWNjdXJhdGUsIGJ1dCBtaWdodCBiZSBjbG9zZSBlbm91Z2ggdG8g YSBnaXZlbiBhbnN3ZXIgdG8gcGljaw0KdGhlIGNvcnJlY3QgY2hvaWNlLg0KDQpCcmlhbiBNdW5y b2UNCmJwbXVucm9lQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ0K ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4491990E.70101 [at] williams.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 13:29:50 -0400 From: Maia Robbins-Zust Subject: Re: Rigging math References: In-Reply-To: "No they did not give you a protractor, graph paper or a calculator that did trig." Actually, there were at least 3 questions on the exam that needed trig functions on a calculator. And, oddly enough, they gave us a piece of paper that had a list of the definitions for Sine, Cos, Tan. etc. It was this piece of paper that had me most confounded, since they obviously expected us to be using trig functions to solve problems - but there were no trig buttons on the cute little green calculator with the big white ETCP logo on it. After wasting far to much time trying to draw vector diagrams and invent new math (it's probably a good thing I didn't know about the Taylor Polynomial equation) it finally occurred to me that this was a first time exam and there was a place on the back of the test answer sheet to write out what was wrong with a particular question. So, after taking my best guess on the answers, I filled out the back of the sheet. Which must of worked, because I passed the test.... Maia Robbins-Zust Technical Director ETCP certified rigger - theatre ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:07:29 -0400 Subject: Re: How Thanks is expressed on the Tonys From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From Raleigh, NC. Steve > From: Kevin Lee Allen > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" > Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 13:04:10 -0400 > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Re: How Thanks is expressed on the Tonys > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Beth Leavel > > > On Jun 15, 2006, at 12:38 PM, iaeg [at] aol.com wrote: > >> one of the winners, ,. Best Featured Actress in a Musical. >> ( don't recall her name ) . whom I will assume is American , >> although the show originated in Canada ( Drowsy Chaperone) started >> her acceptance speech with a grandiose.... >> >> "first of all, , I want to thank all the back stage people" >> >> which got a huge hand from the Radio City balcony..... > > > ----- > Kevin Lee Allen > Architect of Dreams > http://www.klad.com > 973.744.6352.voice > 201.280.3841.mobile > klad [at] klad.com > > > ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: How Thanks is expressed on the Tonys Message-ID: From: Christopher Haas CEHAAS Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:08:56 -0400 Beth Leavel An alum from our MFA Acting program at the University of North Carolina at Greensboro. I guess we must train them right!! :) (Yep, there was some excitement here over the award) Chip Haas Technical Director Department of Theatre The University of North Carolina at Greensboro 336-334-3891 ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:10:25 -0400 From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: Re: How Thanks is expressed on the Tonys In-Reply-To: References:

I went to grad school with Beth Leavel at UNC-Greensboro. She is a wonder person and actress. I will let her know that the people on this list appreciated her mentioning the "back stage people." -Delbert > Beth Leavel > > > On Jun 15, 2006, at 12:38 PM, iaeg [at] aol.com wrote: > > > one of the winners, ,. Best Featured Actress in a Musical. > > ( don't recall her name ) . whom I will assume is American , > > although the show originated in Canada ( Drowsy Chaperone) started > > her acceptance speech with a grandiose.... > > > > "first of all, , I want to thank all the back stage people" -- Delbert L. Hall ZFX Flying Director Phone: 714-585-7070 ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060615114206.00c0cca8 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 11:42:06 From: CB Subject: Re: Rigging Math > If you have a normal calculator, you can use the > Taylor Polynomial which gives you the sine of an > angle. > Sin(N)=N-N^3/3!+N^5/5!-N^7/7!+N^9/9!-N^11/11!... This > assumes that N is in radians (angle in degrees * > pi/180). If the angle is reduced into the range from > -180 to 180 degrees, 4 terms will be accurate to > withing .07. I am so glad that I'm a skweek and I don't have to know all that carpo-math! And I haven't been paying enough attention to my proof-reading lately, my apologies once again. Reading through my posts from yesterday, one would think that I wasn't educated beyond the ninth grade. I'll try to look more closely and type more slowly. Dang this dsylexia is a byotch. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 19:38:37 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: New style liquid nitrogen fogger. This rather remarkable liquid nitrogen fogger does an entire hotel swimming pool in one go..... http://www.break.com/index/liquidnitro.html -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060615114700.00c0cca8 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 11:47:00 From: CB Subject: Re: Rigging Math >Then again, I'm a squint selling video. The first step is to admit that you *have* a problem... ; > Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060615115028.00c0cca8 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 11:50:28 From: CB Subject: Re: Rigging Math >Did they really not give you a calculator that did trig >function, or a protractor, or a sine table? My guess is (remember, I'm jussa skweek) that they want you to be able to come up with answers in a 'real life' situation where you may not havbe these things. This might also explaing CK's 'desert island' scenario. Either that or he's made his way to one of the beaches on Coronado and is completely wrapped around one a mojito. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ From: "Chris Kennedy" Subject: RE: Rigging Math Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 12:17:20 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: To indulge the pioneering spirit and improvisation of field calculating, I threw my seashell compass into the ocean (didn't like the color anyway) and came up with this: First, fold a piece of paper in half. Doesn't matter how big or what shape (the D sheet of that rigging plot will work nicely, but the 8.5x11 supplied by the ETCP will also work.) Fold it in half again perpendicular to the first crease. Right angle, que no? Now trisect the right angle with two more creases. I found that making a sort of cone and then flattening it helps, lining up one edge to the inside of the opposite crease. 90 degrees becomes 30 degrees. Repeat. It's trickier with this much paper folded up but still manageable. 30 degrees becomes 10 degrees. Transfer this to another piece of paper and add on that right angle, you've got 100 degrees. Along with your bamboo ruler you can now finish the calcs for your vector diagram. A multitude of angles can be found this way with varying combinations (need 34 degrees? Our 10 degree fold plus a bisected 45 gets you darned close.) Again, accuracy in each successive step is key. I got 127.5# Thanks to Phillip for a refresher in the long since unused calculus. Now for my mojito. Chris Kennedy Technical Director La Jolla Playhouse/UCSD 858.822.4456 ECTP CR-T -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of CB My guess is (remember, I'm jussa skweek) that they want you to be able to come up with answers in a 'real life' situation where you may not havbe these things. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:35:28 -0500 From: Mark Engler Subject: AC Motor Noise Message-ID: I've got a three phase 1 1/2hp ac motor that is making an awful high pitch squeal (the neighborhood dogs are not happy). It's mounted to a 40:1 c-face gear reducer and being run by an Automation Direct GS2 drive. I think the noise is electrical but it's possible the noise is coming from the gearbox. The sound is like an old computer monitor that's about to crap out, but 100x louder. Also, the noise gets louder when I reduce the motor speed. Does anyone have any experience with these drives and could offer some troubleshooting advice. Thanks ____________________________________ Mark Engler Technical Director Department of Theatre University of Minnesota Duluth 218-726-8774 ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:39:27 -0400 From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: Re: Rigging Math In-Reply-To: References:

Chris, I made my paper protractor by follding it so that it went from 90 to 45 to 22.5 to 11.25 to 5.625. Some combination of those numbers should get pretty close to a lot of stuff (and then fudge from there). Ain't math fun? -Delbert -- Delbert L. Hall ZFX Flying Director Phone: 714-585-7070 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:40:05 -0400 From: "Frank E. Merrill" Reply-To: "Frank E. Merrill" Message-ID: <1419562728.20060615154005 [at] tcon.net> Subject: Re: AC Motor Noise In-Reply-To: References: Howdy ! Thursday, June 15, 2006, Mark Engler wrote: > I've got a three phase 1 1/2hp ac motor that is making an awful high > pitch squeal...I think the noise is electrical but it's possible the > noise is coming from the gearbox...noise gets louder when I reduce > the motor speed. I don't mean to be obvious, but it sounds like the bearings are pleading for lubrication. Please tell us tht you've already ruled that out. Best regards, Frank E. Merrill MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT Indianapolis Established 1946 www.merrillstage.com Running THE BAT! Natural e-mail system v.3.65.03 mailto:Lamplighter [at] tcon.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:14:25 -0400 Subject: Re: How Thanks is expressed on the Tonys From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Tell her also, that she is a LAUGH-Frickin-Riot (that's tmesis by the way) in Chaperone and she makes a great lush! It takes one to know one. On 6/15/06 2:10 PM, "Delbert Hall" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I went to grad school with Beth Leavel at UNC-Greensboro. She is a > wonder person and actress. I will let her know that the people on > this list appreciated her mentioning the "back stage people." > > -Delbert > > >> Beth Leavel >> >> >> On Jun 15, 2006, at 12:38 PM, iaeg [at] aol.com wrote: >> >>> one of the winners, ,. Best Featured Actress in a Musical. >>> ( don't recall her name ) . whom I will assume is American , >>> although the show originated in Canada ( Drowsy Chaperone) started >>> her acceptance speech with a grandiose.... >>> >>> "first of all, , I want to thank all the back stage people" -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <242FD184-A75D-43F6-99A7-7DAC444269A4 [at] email.arizona.edu> Cc: marko [at] email.arizona.edu (Mark O'Brien) From: Mark O'Brien Subject: Re: AC Motor Noise Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 13:33:34 -0700 Call Automation Direct tech support. When I have used some other brand of VFDs there was a setting that reduced the audio noise from the drive, and of course I do not recall what it was. It did however make the drive emit more RF noise. (that was before I started making notes, Fritz & Loren) My .02 Mark O'Brien Opera Technical Director University of Arizona, School of Music Tucson, AZ 520/621-7025 520/591-1803 Mobile On Jun 15, 2006, at 12:35 PM, Mark Engler wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see stagecraft.theprices.net/> > --------------------------------------------------- > > I've got a three phase 1 1/2hp ac motor that is making an awful > high pitch squeal (the neighborhood dogs are not happy). It's > mounted to a 40:1 c-face gear reducer and being run by an > Automation Direct GS2 drive. I think the noise is electrical but > it's possible the noise is coming from the gearbox. The sound is > like an old computer monitor that's about to crap out, but 100x > louder. Also, the noise gets louder when I reduce the motor speed. > Does anyone have any experience with these drives and could offer > some troubleshooting advice. > > Thanks > > ____________________________________ > Mark Engler > Technical Director > Department of Theatre > University of Minnesota Duluth > 218-726-8774 > ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 20:55:56 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: AC Motor Noise References: In-Reply-To: In message , Mark Engler writes >I've got a three phase 1 1/2hp ac motor that is making an awful high >pitch squeal (the neighborhood dogs are not happy). It's mounted to a >40:1 c-face gear reducer and being run by an Automation Direct GS2 >drive. I think the noise is electrical but it's possible the noise is >coming from the gearbox. The sound is like an old computer monitor >that's about to crap out, but 100x louder. Also, the noise gets louder >when I reduce the motor speed. Does anyone have any experience with >these drives and could offer some troubleshooting advice. Has it always done it? It could be something as simple as a bearing issue or something a bit more complex like resonance with the drive frequency. The latter may be easier to sort if the drive is programmable. -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:13:24 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Rigging Math In-reply-to: Message-id: <7.0.1.0.0.20060615140708.01f8cc88 [at] interstellar.com> References: At 04:50 AM 6/15/2006, CB wrote: >My guess is (remember, I'm jussa skweek) that they want you to be able to >come up with answers in a 'real life' situation where you may not havbe >these things. When I went to engineering school (yes, I actually spent time in an institution of higher learning) we were taught to NEVER, EVER use formulas from memory if there was any life safety or major value depending on it. Same with calculations, you double check numbers (even better to have someone else double check) with some sort of calculating machine (slide rule, calculator with trig functions, computer, etc.). For an engineer this is part of the tools of the trade. No tools, no work. In college every engineering test was open book, you supply your own calculator. It would be like asking a carpenter to pull nails without a nail puller. I just saved my wife a bunch of work by breaking out my father's old cast iron Yankee Nail Puller (it may be antique, but it works). -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com 219 Oak Wood Way, Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001001c690c1$3eb0cd60$6400a8c0 [at] om.cox.net> From: "John Gibilisco" References: Subject: Re: AC Motor Noise Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:18:27 -0500 Mark, If it is not bearings and there are no fault codes or warnings displaying on the drive I'm wondering if the motor you are using is something found or was ordered from, or specified by the manufacturer of the AC Drive unit. Ac drive units are to be paired with AC drive rated motors. I've matched up old donated motors with AC drives and they work fine but they make a heck of a lot a high pitched nasty noise when they run at slower rpms. Not to mention the other noises generated that finds its way to your wireless mics. If it the motor is making short moves and does not get to hot from continuous duty you could make an insulated box to knock down some of the noise. John G Omaha Playhouse ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Engler" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 2:35 PM Subject: AC Motor Noise > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I've got a three phase 1 1/2hp ac motor that is making an awful high > pitch squeal (the neighborhood dogs are not happy). It's mounted to a > 40:1 c-face gear reducer and being run by an Automation Direct GS2 > drive. I think the noise is electrical but it's possible the noise is > coming from the gearbox. The sound is like an old computer monitor > that's about to crap out, but 100x louder. Also, the noise gets louder > when I reduce the motor speed. Does anyone have any experience with > these drives and could offer some troubleshooting advice. > > Thanks > > ____________________________________ > Mark Engler > Technical Director > Department of Theatre > University of Minnesota Duluth > 218-726-8774 > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <7daa121e0606151458i233be2b1n20bb4d960dfc3a0f [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 17:58:37 -0400 From: "Gillian Koch" Subject: The Tao Te Tech Don't know if anyone has posted this yet, but I like it and thought I'd pop out of lurk to share. http://www.nic.com/~porkchop/onstage/tao.html Enjoy! ^_^ Gillian Koch Lurker-at-Large Drexel University ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: How Thanks is expressed on the Tonys Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 21:09:28 -0400 Message-ID: <05c101c690e1$844b3340$6501a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > I won't go into the sound not a category question. Sound's not a category? Do Chris Babbie and Charlie Richmond know about this? ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "RD" Subject: RE: How Thanks is expressed on the Tonys Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 19:13:39 -0600 Message-ID: <013f01c690e2$1a44e850$c083c447 [at] doom1> In-Reply-To: You had to ask a rhetorical question. O.k. I reckon it had to be done. Doom -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Phil Johnson Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 10:25 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: How Thanks is expressed on the Tonys For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- I haven't seen much commenting on the Tony awards, Did we agree to not talk about them and I missed it. I just wanted to comment that after watching it the British Theater folks seem to be the most appreciative of the crew and the designer folks. Many British actors and performers I know have mentioned how important the component of tech was to their training. Why is it in this country that there is a group that doesn't appreciate the entire project? Just asking. I won't go into the sound not a category question. Philip Johnson Designer/Technical Director Texas A & M -Corpus Christi ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002701c690e6$ba105c30$0940ff0a [at] Klyphsmachine> From: "Klyph Stanford" References:

Subject: Re: How Thanks is expressed on the Tonys Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 21:46:45 -0400 Steve Litterst wrote: > My favorite acknowledgment speeches are the ones that appear less > rehearsed and more spontaneous. Reading off a list of staffers at William > Morris doesn't tell us excited you are about the award, but talking about > how this moment connects you with your father again is much more > interesting. Having attended the Helen Hayes Awards, Washington DC's equivalent of the Tonys, for several years running, I will say you begin to appreciate people who have given some thought to what they wold say if they won, especially since what is between you and the open bar at the after party is the length of everyone's acceptance speech. At this year's awards, there was a young woman who began "I didn't think I would win", spoke at length, commented on how she was talking too much, and then said "I had a dream" and went on for a while longer. The actor who followed her said simply " I had a whole speech prepared, but she said everything I was going to." He got the loudest and longest applause of the whole evening. Klyph "Let's go get drunk on the light once more." Georges Seurat Klyph Stanford 336.575.7235 www.klyph-stanford-designs.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 00:22:35 -0400 Subject: Re: How Thanks is expressed on the Tonys From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Just spent a couple of days with the ABTT. They have a well established training program and yes, actors and technicians are definitely more in tune with each other, in general, than we are over here. Funny things is I just gave a speech at the ABTT on pretty much this very subject. Bill S. ETCP Certified Rigger - Theatre www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 267.278.4561 mobile Join the Long Reach Long Riders on their 3rd annual cross country charity motorcycle ride. On 6/15/06 12:31 PM, "Stephen Litterst" wrote: >> I just wanted to comment that after watching it the British Theater >> folks seem to be the most appreciative of the crew and the designer >> folks. Many British actors and performers I know have mentioned how >> important the component of tech was to their training. Why is it in >> this country that there is a group that doesn't appreciate the entire >> project? Just asking. ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #846 *****************************