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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #855

 1. Re: Trim chain termination
    by "Delbert Hall" <delbert.hall [at] gmail.com>
 2. Re: Trim chain termination
    by "Delbert Hall" <delbert.hall [at] gmail.com>
 3. Re: painting wood grain...
    by "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] hawaiiantel.net>
 4. Re: light ladders in house
    by "richard j. archer" <rja10 [at] cornell.edu>
 5. Re: round stage
    by "richard j. archer" <rja10 [at] cornell.edu>
 6. Re: light ladders in house
    by "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>
 7. Re: light ladders in house
    by "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>
 8. Re: light ladders in house
    by "Steven Santos" <steven [at] simplycircus.com>
 9. Re: light ladders in house
    by Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
10. Source needed for large statue(s)
    by Greg Williams <gwilliams [at] appstate.edu>
11. Re: light ladders in house
    by "John Vink" <johnnyveee [at] gmail.com>

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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:23:56 -0400
From: "Delbert Hall" <delbert.hall [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Trim chain termination
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In arena rigging this would be true because the shackles that are used
in arena rigging are so large.  This is not always true in theatre
rigging.  It this case you are using a 1/4" shackle, and it is no
problem to attach it to thimble of the 1/4" dia. cable which also hols
a link of 1/4" chain.   And because the angles of are almost
identical, there is no an with the thimble being forced wider, putting
an unwanted force on the termination.

BTW, there is a way to attach chain back to a link in the middle of
the chain without capturing a link.  The technique is simple, but a
lot eaier to demonstrate than to explain in writing.  I use it often
when chaining arbors down.

-Delbert

On 6/24/06, dale <dalecyr [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
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>
> interesting...
>
> I was taught by donovan* that only one "thing" goes in a thimble...
>
> I think, following his example,
> 2 shackles are needed to properly rig this, no?

-- 
Delbert L. Hall
ZFX Flying Director
Phone: 714-585-7070

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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:58:15 -0400
From: "Delbert Hall" <delbert.hall [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Trim chain termination
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Dale - Oversized shackles (ones where it is diffifult for ears to pass
through the thimble) are often used in arena rigging to help prevent
the shackle from turning in the thimble and becoming side-loaded).  I
suspect Harry talks about this in his book too.

-Delbert

-- 
Delbert L. Hall
ZFX Flying Director
Phone: 714-585-7070

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From: "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] hawaiiantel.net>
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Subject: Re: painting wood grain...
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 04:15:21 -1000

> >     Any quick and easy way to paint wood grain on a floor? Any ideas
would be most helpful. Thanks for your time.<<

Another technique I have used for wood floors is to paint enough 1/4"
plywood to cover the set with 3 or four washes (1 wash per sheet) of varying
darkness of the color wood you want. Spatter the ply lightly with a black
wash then varnish the full sheets. I like Diamond Gloss Varathane - Satin
Finish.

The plywood is then ripped into strips at the desired width, cut into random
lengths and bradded down to the stage floor.  What sells this technique are
the different colors, the sharp lines of the floorboards, and the random
lengths. An exaggerated look can be achieved by separating the boards about
1/8" on all sides.

Laters,

Paul

"I'm going up," Tom said innocently.



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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 15:27:43 -0400
From: "richard j. archer" <rja10 [at] cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: light ladders in house

Listmembers;

Anybody got light ladders in the house (on the wall, above the seats) 
that you can actually get to, climb, and hang and focus?  Are all 
these custom or is there an "off the shelf" version?  Somebody I know 
redoing the FOH in a 1960's institutional theatre. Thanks

Dick A
TD, Cornell U

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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:05:01 -0400
From: "richard j. archer" <rja10 [at] cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: round stage

I  might need a round stage for an outdoor event in Sept.  20' in 
diameter would be good.  Anybody know anyplace that rents round? 
Thanks


Dick A
TD, Cornell U

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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:10:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: light ladders in house
From: "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>

> Anybody got light ladders in the house (on the wall, above the seats)
> that you can actually get to, climb, and hang and focus?  Are all
> these custom or is there an "off the shelf" version?  Somebody I know
> redoing the FOH in a 1960's institutional theatre. Thanks

The Majestic Theatre in Corvallis Oregon has one on each side of the house
with 4 rungs - which were custom built during the remodel.

The top two rungs can be reached and focused from an access door behind
the instruments on the house left side and from an access walkway to the
balcony on HR. The bottom rungs two are best reached using our stick
ladder.

The house floor slopes, so leaning a ladder against the wall is not an
option.

There are 6 ERs and 2 PAR64s on each side that are left in place as part
of the rep plot. It is seldom that any other instruments are hung on the
ladders, although I have done so on occasion.

Bill


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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:14:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: light ladders in house
From: "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>

At Albany Community Theatre, we don't have any permanent ladders. However,
there are several electrics over the audience seats that are reached by
using an extension ladder with hooks at the top that go over the pipes.

Bill


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From: "Steven Santos" <steven [at] simplycircus.com>
Subject: RE: light ladders in house
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 19:49:57 -0400
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For oddball ladder questions I usually ask the folks at Lynn Ladder.
800-225-2510.


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Steven Santos
Director, Simply Circus, Inc.
Email: Steven [at] SimplyCircus.com
 Mail: PO BOX 620753
       Newton, MA 02462
Phone: 781-799-4938
 eFax: 309-214-0899
  Web: www.SimplyCircus.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of richard
> j. archer
> Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 3:28 PM
> To: Stagecraft
> Subject: Re: light ladders in house
>
>
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> Listmembers;
>
> Anybody got light ladders in the house (on the wall, above the seats)
> that you can actually get to, climb, and hang and focus?  Are all
> these custom or is there an "off the shelf" version?  Somebody I know
> redoing the FOH in a 1960's institutional theatre. Thanks
>
> Dick A
> TD, Cornell U
>
>


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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:52:27 -0400
Subject: Re: light ladders in house
From: Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
Message-ID: <C0C3568B.E9C2%bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
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There are issues with light ladders that we've seen over the years.  The
biggest problem is that many are made with cast iron plumbing elbows and
flanges.  These fittings work great with plumbing but they suck for as a
load bearing member in a light ladder.

I also love it when people anchor them to the wall with those cute little
blue plastic anchors you get at the big box stores.

We make custom light ladders.  All steel, either welded or bolted.

Bill S.

ETCP Certified Rigger - Theatre
www.sapsis-rigging.com
800.727.7471
267.278.4561 mobile

Join the Long Reach Long Riders on their 3rd annual cross country charity
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On 6/24/06 7:49 PM, "Steven Santos" <steven [at] simplycircus.com> wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> For oddball ladder questions I usually ask the folks at Lynn Ladder.
> 800-225-2510.
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Steven Santos
> Director, Simply Circus, Inc.
> Email: Steven [at] SimplyCircus.com
>  Mail: PO BOX 620753
>        Newton, MA 02462
> Phone: 781-799-4938
>  eFax: 309-214-0899
>   Web: www.SimplyCircus.com
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of richard
>> j. archer
>> Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 3:28 PM
>> To: Stagecraft
>> Subject: Re: light ladders in house
>> 
>> 
>> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
>> ---------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Listmembers;
>> 
>> Anybody got light ladders in the house (on the wall, above the seats)
>> that you can actually get to, climb, and hang and focus?  Are all
>> these custom or is there an "off the shelf" version?  Somebody I know
>> redoing the FOH in a 1960's institutional theatre. Thanks
>> 
>> Dick A
>> TD, Cornell U
>> 
>> 
> 



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Message-Id: <BECE3C35-7471-4EBB-B40C-92ACACD936D0 [at] appstate.edu>
From: Greg Williams <gwilliams [at] appstate.edu>
Subject: Source needed for large statue(s)
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 23:21:02 -0400

An upcoming production will need something grand and larger than life  
to bracket the entranceway... about 15' tall. Anyone have a source  
for rental (or sales) shops that might have such items?

Thanks in advance!
-=Greg Williams=-
www.LRLR.org

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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 21:39:37 -0600
From: "John Vink" <johnnyveee [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: light ladders in house
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I believe SSRC makes some light ladders.

John

On 6/24/06, richard j. archer <rja10 [at] cornell.edu> wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> Listmembers;
>
> Anybody got light ladders in the house (on the wall, above the seats)
> that you can actually get to, climb, and hang and focus?  Are all
> these custom or is there an "off the shelf" version?  Somebody I know
> redoing the FOH in a 1960's institutional theatre. Thanks
>
> Dick A
> TD, Cornell U
>

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