Return-Path: X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/Clamd http://raeinternet.com/mpp X-Scanned-By: This message was scanned by MPP Lite Edition (www.messagepartners.com)! X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 31555791; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 03:01:46 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.5 required=5.0 tests=ADVANCE_FEE_1,AWL,BAYES_00, NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on localhost X-Spam-Level: X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #857 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 03:00:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #857 1. Re: Air flow by Clive Mitchell 2. lighting ladders by "Kenneth Poston" 3. Re: round stage by 4. Re: light ladders in house by 5. Re: wanted: scrim to buy by 6. Re: light ladders in house by Dorian Kelly 7. Re: light ladders in house by MissWisc [at] aol.com 8. Re: Air flow by "Jon Ares" 9. Re: lighting ladders by "Jon Ares" 10. Re: Air flow by "Paul Schreiner" 11. Re: wanted: scrim to buy by "Frank E. Merrill" 12. Leico light? by "Jon Ares" 13. Re: Leico light? by Jerry Durand 14. Re: Leico light? by "Jon Ares" 15. Focus Track by "Abby Downing" 16. Job Opening Cincinnati by "Paul Sanow" 17. Re: Focus Track by Bill Sapsis 18. Re: LRLR poster by Bill Sapsis 19. Re: Focus Track by "Abby Downing" 20. Re: Plastic pipe for compressed air (was Re: Air flow) by "Occy" 21. Re: Air flow by "Bill Nelson" 22. Re: Plastic pipe for compressed air (was Re: Air flow) by CB 23. Re: Air flow by "chip.a.wood" 24. Re: Air flow by "RD" 25. Re: LRLR poster by Michael Heinicke 26. Re: Air flow by Bill Sapsis 27. Re: Air flow by "chip.a.wood" 28. Re: Air flow by Stephen Litterst 29. Re: Air flow by Clive Mitchell 30. Re: Focus Track by "Delbert Hall" 31. Re: Focus Track by Bruce Purdy 32. Re: Focus Track by "Jon Ares" 33. Re: Focus Track by seanrmc [at] earthlink.net 34. Re: Focus Track by Bruce Purdy *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:16:36 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: Air flow References:

In-Reply-To: In message , Jon Ares writes >> Refrigeration lines are usually brazed with an oxy-acetylene torch. > > >I thought they were usually braised with a rue of red wine and >shallots. And thick double cream obviously. Otherwise they'd be a bit runny and uncreamy. -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ From: "Kenneth Poston" Subject: lighting ladders Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 08:41:15 -0400 Message-ID: <000701c6991d$d60bb2b0$6501a8c0 [at] gatewaycompute> In-Reply-To: Really, there's never such a thing as a "temporary installation", at least not in a permanent facility. Anyone who's worked in this industry for any amount of time has come across numerous instances of a "temporary installation", with the layers of dust that indicate the generations that have passed since someone came up with that "quick fix". Some of us have probably had to deal with the aftermath of some catastrophic failure when one of these hidden dangers has revealed itself in the worst way. When dealing with something like a lighting ladder, where loads are suspended overhead, the only safe practice is to consider it to be a permanent installation, and engineer it that way. Kenneth Poston kposton [at] mindspring.com (803) 315-4720 Insert funny postscript here. >> Would a light ladder made of aluminum=20 pipe, cheesed together, and >> bolted on (with proper bolts=20 >> etc.) be safe? > >People wiser and more knowledgeable than I will undoubtedly answer, but = >my initial reaction is that a structure intended for a day's (or even a = >week's) >use differs greatly from one which is intended to be a permanent >installation. ------------------------------ Subject: RE: round stage Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:38:39 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: Dick, The 24' diameter wood stresskin decking for my revolve can be available. As you know, we are not TOOOO far away. Contact me off list. Stephen.rees [at] fredonia.edu. Best, Steve=20 -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of richard j. archer Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 4:05 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: round stage For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- I might need a round stage for an outdoor event in Sept. 20' in diameter would be good. Anybody know anyplace that rents round?=20 Thanks Dick A TD, Cornell U ------------------------------ Subject: RE: light ladders in house Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:54:34 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: We custom designed two ladders for our proscenium theatre. The campus had a local PE sign off on it and the work was bid to a local welding contractor. 1.5" pipe for the five rungs welded to 2" square tube. Rungs spaced to comfortably accommodate 2 S-4s next to one another with shutters all pulled out. The frame is tied back through the original wall slot to 4" ID pipe that is anchored to the concrete floor and extends ~20 feet up. The top is anchored with 2" angle iron to three points of the building structure. Although one could, we don't actually climb the light ladder. The seating was replaced about the same time and we had the end seats on a row made removable so we could set a Fiberglas extension ladder (with big pads on the top) to access the back of the ladder from the house. Oh, there is a 3/8" GAC support attached at the onstage(?) vertical frame that passes through the auditorium ceiling and is attached to the catwalk steel. =20 This are SOOOO much better than the Telspar things that took 25 years to replace!! Steve Rees, TD Chair, Theatre and Dance SUNY-Fredonia -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of richard j. archer Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 3:28 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: light ladders in house For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Listmembers; Anybody got light ladders in the house (on the wall, above the seats) that you can actually get to, climb, and hang and focus? Are all these custom or is there an "off the shelf" version? Somebody I know redoing the FOH in a 1960's institutional theatre. Thanks Dick A TD, Cornell U ------------------------------ Subject: RE: wanted: scrim to buy Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:58:47 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: Contact Sheila at Syracuse Scenery and Stage Lighting. 800-452-7775. They should be able to help. Steve Rees, TD Chair, Theatre and Dance SUNY-Fredonia=20 -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Nikki Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 1:01 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: wanted: scrim to buy For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Hello all-knowing list. I am working on a community theatre production of The Wizard of Oz in upstate NY and the director is having a hard time finding a scrim. Anyone have a suggestion of a company and/or website for me to point him to? He would like a black scrim approximately 10 feet wide by 25 feet long.=20 Thanks for any help you can give me! ~Nikki Hilchey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com=20 ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:01:54 +0100 From: Dorian Kelly Subject: Re: light ladders in house >s, cheeseboroughs, pipe, etc. I see on gigs > > today are aluminum. Would a light ladder made of aluminum >> pipe, cheesed together, and bolted on (with proper bolts etc.) >> be safe? >> > > Jason terminology check..... As as ignorant overponder, can I assume that cheesing means using cheesboroughs and can I assume that cheesboroughs are standard nut tightened scaffold clamps, fixed and swivel? Dorian ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <543.8ed34e.31d15940 [at] aol.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:37:36 EDT Subject: Re: light ladders in house dorian [at] essex.ac.uk writes: << terminology check..... As as ignorant overponder, can I assume that cheesing means using cheesboroughs and can I assume that cheesboroughs are standard nut tightened scaffold clamps, fixed and swivel? >> Not certain what you mean by "scaffold clamps" but Cheesboroughs are "pipe clamps" i.e. two clamps attached to each other, each of which grips onto a pipe to enable two pipes to be held in position relative to each other. The clamps may swivle or be stationary. I haven't been able to confirm it, but supposedly the name is after their inventor, Robert Chesebrough, the same guy who discovered Vaseline. Kristi ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000301c6993d$0db8afa0$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References:

Subject: Re: Air flow Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:24:52 -0700 >>> Refrigeration lines are usually brazed with an oxy-acetylene torch. >> >> >>I thought they were usually braised with a rue of red wine and >>shallots. > > And thick double cream obviously. Otherwise they'd be a bit runny and > uncreamy. That goes without saying.... Pair it with a healthy Guinness and you're good to go. - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000901c6993d$8aa8a240$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: lighting ladders Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:28:22 -0700 > Anyone who's worked in this industry for any amount of time has come > across > numerous instances of a "temporary installation", with the layers of dust > that indicate the generations that have passed since someone came up with > that "quick fix". Some of us have probably had to deal with the aftermath > of some catastrophic failure when one of these hidden dangers has revealed > itself in the worst way. On occasion, it's been my experience (or witness) that all was fine* with the baling wire and chewing gum 'quick fix' (inertia) - until someone tries to remedy it - then it all came crashing down. The moment they touched it - boom. * I by no means condone the use of baling wire, chewing gum, duct tape, or inappropriate hardware for such 'quick fixes.' - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Air flow Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:35:36 -0400 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A042A9CBF [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> In-Reply-To: From: "Paul Schreiner" > Pair it with a healthy Guinness and you're good to go. Just one?? As the saying goes, a bird does not fly on only one wing! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:43:47 -0400 From: "Frank E. Merrill" Reply-To: "Frank E. Merrill" Message-ID: <431942800.20060626124347 [at] tcon.net> Subject: Re: wanted: scrim to buy In-Reply-To: References: Howdy ! Sunday, June 25, 2006, Nikki wrote: > having a hard time finding a scrim. Anyone have a suggestion of a > company and/or website for me to point him to? Why, Yes. As a matter of fact I DO sell finished scrims! I don't rent them, because they're too fragile to be a sensible rental item. Best regards, Frank E. Merrill MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT Indianapolis Established 1946 www.merrillstage.com Running THE BAT! Natural e-mail system v.3.65.03 mailto:Lamplighter [at] tcon.net ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002101c69940$e4afa1f0$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" Subject: Leico light? Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:52:22 -0700 Ugh. Earlier this morning I read an article in a film industry mag about the DP on "The New Adventures of Old Christine." To quote (I found the same article online at another film/video site): "Heschong frequently uses 100-watt Leico units to light various parts of the set. "The ones I have been most attached to are the 26-degree, but I also sometimes use the 19- and 36-degree. I use them at times to address different parts of a set. I might have a very high set, such as a sports arena, where I'll need to key somebody from across the stage. If I can't get there with a more traditional source, we will try to find a place where we can hide a Leico and key [the actor] with that unit." Doing a Google search came up with dozens of hits of people using this inappropriate term. (People (still) often incorrectly refer to all ellipsoidal reflector spotlights as "Lekos," even though that's a word owned by Strand - the LekoLight.) I'm also curious about these 100-watt Leicos in 26 degree spreads.... - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:57:07 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Leico light? In-reply-to: Message-id: <7.0.1.0.0.20060626095631.01f0f088 [at] interstellar.com> References: At 09:52 AM 6/26/2006, Jon Ares wrote: >I'm also curious about these 100-watt Leicos in 26 degree spreads.... Pretty dim stage, guess it's part of the Energy-Star program. :) -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com 219 Oak Wood Way, Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002701c69943$07477560$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References:

Subject: Re: Leico light? Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:07:39 -0700 >>I'm also curious about these 100-watt Leicos in 26 degree spreads.... > > Pretty dim stage, guess it's part of the Energy-Star program. :) Especially since the article said the DP liked to use the 100-watt Leicos to key light an actor from across the soundstage. I'm thinking those are some pretty resilient photons! - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Subject: Focus Track Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:38:49 -0400 Message-ID: <7AE59BA9B8D15D4787EB1C7A2DB6DFBA3F7DBB [at] jekyll-sbs.ollsi.local> From: "Abby Downing" Oh, collective wisdom of the list.... I am working on specifying some lighting equipment for a venue and they have asked for focus track. Through a third party, I've requested a bid for the focus track from a nearby rigging company and they tell me they cannot provide me pricing for it and that it is illegal. First of all, I certainly will not sell or suggest anything that is illegal. Secondly, I would really like to explain why (or, was I perhaps misinformed?)- so my customer understands why it cannot be done, if that is the case. The client has pulled up documentation from another well-known rigging company that actually sells the focus track and asked me why I told him it is illegal if company such-and-such has it available for purchase. So...anyone have any insight or information on focus track? Is it legal in some places and not others? I will be contracting the rigging out, no matter what, but I don't want to be dealing with a company that is telling me the wrong thing, and I want to take care of my customer and make sure he is fully informed- either way. Thank you all in advance for the information. -Abby ------------------------------ Subject: Job Opening Cincinnati Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:27:01 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Paul Sanow" Vincent Lighting Systems is looking for a Project Administrator for the Cincinnati (Erlanger KY) office. Please visit http://www.vincentlighting.com/?p=3Djobs for a general description and a link to the full job description. You can also contact me off list. Thanks for the bandwidth. Back to your regularly scheduled discussions of light ladders and trim chains. Regards, Paul *********************************************************** Paul Sanow psanow [at] vls.com Technical Sales www.vincentlighting.com Vincent Lighting Systems 1420 Jamike Ln. #2 Erlanger, KY 41018 (859) 525-2000 x211 FAX (859) 525-2050 *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:55:20 -0400 Subject: Re: Focus Track From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Hmmmm I one of the two rigging companies in question? I have a focus track that is accepted for use in this industry. Legal or illegal has nothing to do with it. You will not find a law anywhere, at least not that I know of, that specifically legislates focus tracks one way or another. Our government representatives have much more important things to do with their time...like go on junkets to Disneyland (in Hong Kong). Anyway, the old method of focus track was to use a length of heavy duty curtain track. That is no longer acceptable as the manufacturer does not permit this type of activity with his track. With very good reason, I might add. So, upon getting that news, we designed our own system using load rated hardware and track that is ok for this type of thing. Send me a note off-list and I'll send you the details. Thanks Bill S. ETCP Certified Rigger - Theatre www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 267.278.4561 mobile Join the Long Reach Long Riders on their 3rd annual cross country charity motorcycle ride. On 6/26/06 1:38 PM, "Abby Downing" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Oh, collective wisdom of the list.... > > I am working on specifying some lighting equipment for a venue and they > have asked for focus track. Through a third party, I've requested a bid > for the focus track from a nearby rigging company and they tell me they > cannot provide me pricing for it and that it is illegal. > > First of all, I certainly will not sell or suggest anything that is > illegal. Secondly, I would really like to explain why (or, was I > perhaps misinformed?)- so my customer understands why it cannot be done, > if that is the case. The client has pulled up documentation from > another well-known rigging company that actually sells the focus track > and asked me why I told him it is illegal if company such-and-such has > it available for purchase. > > So...anyone have any insight or information on focus track? Is it legal > in some places and not others? I will be contracting the rigging out, > no matter what, but I don't want to be dealing with a company that is > telling me the wrong thing, and I want to take care of my customer and > make sure he is fully informed- either way. > > Thank you all in advance for the information. > > -Abby ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:07:23 -0400 Subject: Re: LRLR poster From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Hi. For those of you that requested a poster of LRLR info, there is now a pdf. Available for download. Please go to and you will see a number of different items. The one I think you are talking about is in the upper left hand corner. Please feel free to download this, or any of the ones on that page, for use in promoting the ride. Thanks for your help. Bill S. ETCP Certified Rigger - Theatre www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 267.278.4561 mobile Join the Long Reach Long Riders on their 3rd annual cross country charity motorcycle ride. ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Focus Track Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:23:34 -0400 Message-ID: <7AE59BA9B8D15D4787EB1C7A2DB6DFBA3F7DBF [at] jekyll-sbs.ollsi.local> From: "Abby Downing" Thank you very much for the information. This is as I suspected it would be. You've got mail. -Abby -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Bill Sapsis Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 1:55 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Focus Track Send me a note off-list and I'll send you the details. ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Occy" References: Subject: Re: Plastic pipe for compressed air (was Re: Air flow) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:43:09 -0700 One needs to put the dryer after the isolator from the tank as dryers don't work to well when they are warm. When at home and spraying automotive finishes and laquors I use a 5 foot off the tank to my dryer which is an ice chest packed in ice to condense at much of the water out the air possible. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Powers" > Mike, > > How do I feel? Well, hey, I'm a guy, I don't have a "feel-about-it" > gene, and if I did I wouldn't admit it and if I did admit it, I'd have > to kill you. :-) > > As for the condensation issue, yes, you're right, metal will condense > ambient moisture better than plastic. How much? I honestly can't > tell you. However, that said, if I were to install a plastic system, > I would place a dryer at the tank as well as water trap units at each > air station. I would also be fastidious in the system design to > assure drainage. Automatic drains would be installed at each drop > leg as well as at the tank. > > Before the code change and the dissemination of the information as to > why the change, I, like many others, used PVC extensively for > pneumatic projects. My main use was specialty piping in a scenic unit > including purpose built air tanks to be built into the scenic unit. > > Were I to build a new system today, I'd tend to go with copper, > galvanized, plastic, black, in that order depending on the final > equation of material cost, labor cost, labor skills, time available, > etc. > -- > Michael > > Michael Powers > Director of Operations > Central Lighting & Equipment > 1720 Fuller Rd. Suite 150 > West Des Moines Iowa 50265 > 515-277-4190 877-977-4190 > Fax 515-277-2295 > 515-557-0178 cell > michael [at] clelights.com > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2733.205.215.254.54.1151350116.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:28:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Air flow From: "Bill Nelson" > In Industrial refrigeration plant the liquid lines are pretty much the > size of standard copper water pipes. That is still 1" or under - a lot smaller than you would want to use for an air line. I can't find my tables, at the moment. I seem to recall that the rated working pressure for 4" copper is sufficient for a 200 psi system - at least at reasonable working temperatures. Someone else will have to verify this. Bill ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060626131403.00c10d48 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:14:03 From: CB Subject: Re: Re: Plastic pipe for compressed air (was Re: Air flow) >if I were to install a plastic system, >I would place a dryer at the tank as well as water trap units at each >air station. I would also be fastidious in the system design to >assure drainage. Automatic drains would be installed at each drop >leg as well as at the tank. Which is exactly the design that the guy suffered early tool failure with, and that he suggested metal pipes solved. So far as I know, it's only anecdotal evidence, but definately something to be looking at. Is the difference between putting an ABS system together and a metal system so different that the advantages of the metal system wouldn't convince you to do it diferently? OTOH, on a scenic piece, I'd use ABS regardless. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "chip.a.wood" Subject: RE: Air flow Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:42:09 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: And is there such a thing as an "unhealthy" Guinness? Chip > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Paul > Schreiner > > > Pair it with a healthy Guinness and you're good to go. > > Just one?? As the saying goes, a bird does not fly on only one wing! ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "RD" Cc: chip.wood [at] ieee.org Subject: RE: Air flow Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:22:29 -0600 Message-ID: <001f01c69966$a2bf7c90$c083c447 [at] doom1> In-Reply-To: Ale no. Doom -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of chip.a.wood Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 2:42 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Air flow For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- And is there such a thing as an "unhealthy" Guinness? Chip > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Paul > Schreiner > > > Pair it with a healthy Guinness and you're good to go. > > Just one?? As the saying goes, a bird does not fly on only one wing! ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20060626191710.83577.qmail [at] web82214.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:17:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Heinicke Subject: Re: LRLR poster In-Reply-To: Thanks Bill! Already printed and posted. Mike Heinicke --- Bill Sapsis wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hi. For those of you that requested a poster of > LRLR info, there is now a > pdf. Available for download. Please go to > and you will > see a number of different > items. The one I think you are talking about is in > the upper left hand > corner. Please feel free to download this, or any > of the ones on that page, > for use in promoting the ride. > > Thanks for your help. > > Bill S. > ETCP Certified Rigger - Theatre > www.sapsis-rigging.com > 800.727.7471 > 267.278.4561 mobile > > Join the Long Reach Long Riders on their 3rd annual > cross country charity > motorcycle ride. > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 18:19:00 -0400 Subject: Re: Air flow From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: LOL. Well, I should know better but there I was, just home from work. Feet up, a beer in hand. I open stagecraft and take a drink at the same time. I missed the laptop and I missed the cat, but now the dog smells like beer. Thanks Randy. Well done. Bill S. On 6/26/06 5:22 PM, "RD" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Ale no. Doom > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of chip.a.wood > Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 2:42 PM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Re: Air flow > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > And is there such a thing as an "unhealthy" Guinness? > > Chip ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "chip.a.wood" Subject: RE: Air flow Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:40:09 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Lucky dog! Chip > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Bill > Sapsis > Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 3:19 PM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Re: Air flow > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > LOL. Well, I should know better but there I was, just home from > work. Feet > up, a beer in hand. I open stagecraft and take a drink at the same time. > > I missed the laptop and I missed the cat, but now the dog smells > like beer. > > Thanks Randy. Well done. > Bill S. > > > On 6/26/06 5:22 PM, "RD" wrote: > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > Ale no. Doom > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf > Of chip.a.wood > > Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 2:42 PM > > To: Stagecraft > > Subject: Re: Air flow > > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > And is there such a thing as an "unhealthy" Guinness? > > > > Chip > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:37:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: Air flow In-reply-to: Message-id: <1099.24.58.6.22.1151368662.squirrel [at] webmail.ithaca.edu> References:

> --------------------------------------------------- > I missed the laptop and I missed the cat, but now the dog smells like > beer. I'm not sure if you're complaining, or declaring that as an improvement. Steve L. ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 02:02:48 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: Air flow References:

In-Reply-To: In message , chip.a.wood writes >And is there such a thing as an "unhealthy" Guinness? I suppose it depends on what speed you're driving at when you take a swig. -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 22:16:26 -0400 From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: Re: Focus Track In-Reply-To: References: Abby, I have never head of a law that prohibited focus tracks. I have built focus tracks from the same tracks that used for performer flying systems. The sections of track bolt together very securely, and each carrier has a WLL of 500 lbs. -Delbert ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 23:02:28 -0400 Subject: Re: Focus Track From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > I have never head of a law that prohibited focus tracks. I have built > focus tracks from the same tracks that used for performer flying > systems. The sections of track bolt together very securely, and each > carrier has a WLL of 500 lbs. > Please forgive my ignorance, but what the heck is a "Focus Track"??? Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director The Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000301c69999$bc58cca0$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: Focus Track Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:28:19 -0700 > Please forgive my ignorance, but what the heck is a "Focus Track"??? > Sometimes the headlights on trains go out of alignment. You place the train on a focus track and adjust the headlights. ;) - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Message-ID: <10500463.1151381566171.JavaMail.root [at] elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 00:12:46 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: seanrmc [at] earthlink.net Reply-To: seanrmc [at] earthlink.net Subject: Re: Focus Track It's a track from which an electrician is hung in order to focus (maintain, etc) a lighting position. Usually used for FOH trusses or electrics trapped above scenery. --Sean Sean R. McCarthy seanrmc [at] earthlink.net -----Original Message----- >From: Bruce Purdy > Please forgive my ignorance, but what the heck is a "Focus Track"??? > >Bruce ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 00:16:48 -0400 Subject: Re: Focus Track From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > It's a track from which an electrician is hung in order to focus (maintain, > etc) a lighting position. Usually used for FOH trusses or electrics trapped > above scenery. Ah, Thank you! Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director The Smith Opera House ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #857 *****************************