Return-Path: X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/Clamd http://raeinternet.com/mpp X-Scanned-By: This message was scanned by MPP Lite Edition (www.messagepartners.com)! X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 31587016; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 03:00:43 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.5 required=5.0 tests=ADVANCE_FEE_1,AWL,BAYES_00, NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on localhost X-Spam-Level: X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #858 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 03:00:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #858 1. Re: Focus Track by Clive Mitchell 2. Re: lighting ladders by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 3. Re: Focus Track by "Delbert Hall" 4. Re: Focus Track by SS 5. Re: Focus Track by Clive Mitchell 6. Re: Focus Track by Clive Mitchell 7. Re: Focus Track by "Delbert Hall" 8. Re: Focus Track by Jerry Durand 9. Re: Focus Track by Clive Mitchell 10. Re: Focus Track by Clive Mitchell 11. Terminology by Brendan Quigley 12. Leico light? by CB 13. Re: Terminology by iaeg [at] aol.com 14. Re: Focus Track by Bill Sapsis 15. Beer (again, was: RE: Air flow) by CB 16. Re: Focus Track by "Laura McMeley" 17. Re: Beer (again, was: RE: Air flow) by "RD" 18. Re: Focus Track by Bill Sapsis 19. Re: Job Opening Cincinnati by Jim Hyslop 20. Re: Focus Track by Nathaniel.G.H.Wells.00 [at] Alum.Dartmouth.ORG (Nathaniel G. H. Wells 00) 21. fireworks by Jerry Durand 22. Re: fireworks by Clive Mitchell 23. Re: Leico light? by Jim Hyslop 24. Re: Leico light? by "Jon Ares" 25. Re: Focus Track by Bill Sapsis 26. Re: Focus Track by Jerry Durand 27. Re: Air flow by "Occy" 28. Good to be back by "Joe Saint" 29. Re: Good to be back by "Jon Ares" 30. Tutorial for ETC Express by "Delbert Hall" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 11:20:32 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: Focus Track References: In-Reply-To: In message , seanrmc [at] earthlink.net writes >It's a track from which an electrician is hung in order to focus >(maintain, etc) a lighting position. Usually used for FOH trusses or >electrics trapped above scenery. Suddenly the curtain track manufacturers concerns seem justified. :) I hope there's at least a parallel wire for safety harness connection. (Other than that it's not a bad idea. Certainly less structural and obtrusive than a catwalk.) -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: lighting ladders Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 06:29:52 -0400 Message-ID: <001001c699d4$a02f03b0$6501a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: =20 > Really, there's never such a thing as a "temporary=20 > installation", at least not in a permanent facility. I was referring to touiring rigs. You're absolutely correct that any such structures installed into a = resident facility should be designed as if it were meant to be permanent -- = because it probably will be. ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 07:25:39 -0400 From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: Re: Focus Track In-Reply-To: References:

There are several issues of concern with using curtain track as a focus track: 1) sections are spliced together uses a fraction clamp rather than being through bolted together, and 2) the carriers do not rated for the heavy loads (and certainly not for people). The track and carriers that I have used for focus tracks are rated by the manufacturer for supporting people. -Delbert ------------------------------ Message-ID: <8231e7ea0606270622l2c884424r3c4732e745a84e24 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 09:22:29 -0400 From: SS Subject: Re: Focus Track In-Reply-To: References:

>>>>Please forgive my ignorance, but what the heck is a "Focus Track"???<<<< Bruce- I know the question was already answered, but check out this link. http://www.sapsis-rigging.com/HEADS.html#product HTH -SS TTS-EKU "if my calculations are correct SLINKY + ESCALATOR = EVERLASTING FUN" ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 18:10:54 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: Focus Track References:

In-Reply-To: In message , SS writes >I know the question was already answered, but check out this link. >http://www.sapsis-rigging.com/HEADS.html#product Looking at that picture there's only one thing I'd add.... A retrieval rope so that if an operative using the equipment had an electrical accident they could be pulled back over to an area where resuscitation could be applied if required. (Mumble, mumble, DEFIBRILLATOR, mumble mumble!) -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2I7IgUFlcWoEFwNR [at] ntlworld.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 18:13:09 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: Focus Track References:

In-Reply-To: In message , Delbert Hall writes >There are several issues of concern with using curtain track as a >focus track: 1) sections are spliced together uses a fraction clamp >rather than being through bolted together, and 2) the carriers do not >rated for the heavy loads (and certainly not for people). The track >and carriers that I have used for focus tracks are rated by the >manufacturer for supporting people. In the UK one of the favourite industrial curtain tracks is T60 which does use alignment bolts at each section. I've no doubt that it could support a humans weight, but wouldn't specify it to do so. I don't think Halls would either. -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:27:07 -0400 From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: Re: Focus Track In-Reply-To: References:

Hall's T70 is probably much better for a focus track. I do not know the WLL of the carriers for the T70 track, but you could always build a heavy duty carrier to fit that track. -Delbert On 6/27/06, Clive Mitchell wrote: > In the UK one of the favourite industrial curtain tracks is T60 which > does use alignment bolts at each section. I've no doubt that it could > support a humans weight, but wouldn't specify it to do so. I don't > think Halls would either. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:54:29 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Focus Track In-reply-to: Message-id: <7.0.1.0.0.20060627105029.01ecc590 [at] interstellar.com> References:

At 10:10 AM 6/27/2006, Clive Mitchell wrote: >Looking at that picture there's only one thing I'd add.... A >retrieval rope so that if an operative using the equipment had an >electrical accident they could be pulled back over to an area where >resuscitation could be applied if required. My wife pointed out the retrieval rope would also be good if the chair was bumped and rolled out of reach with nobody on it. :) If the track covered a large area, the rope could just hang to within reach of the floor, as long as someone could grab it and drag the chair back to one end. In the picture it also looks like the track ends just in front of the chair, hopefully there's a stop block in the track. :) (I know the picture was probably posed with only one section of track a few feet off the floor at Bill's shop.) -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com 219 Oak Wood Way, Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 19:04:44 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: Focus Track References:

In-Reply-To: In message , Delbert Hall writes >Hall's T70 is probably much better for a focus track. I do not know >the WLL of the carriers for the T70 track, but you could always build >a heavy duty carrier to fit that track. The Sapsis track looks a bit like a girder so it must be pretty robust. It's just begging for a large battery, DC motor and pinch wheel to make a little monorail for riding about in the grid all day. :) -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <262o8bISPXoEFw+J [at] ntlworld.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 19:07:14 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: Focus Track References:

In-Reply-To: In message , Jerry Durand writes >If the track covered a large area, the rope could just hang to within >reach of the floor, as long as someone could grab it and drag the chair >back to one end. Or you could maliciously go to the middle of the track and whip the trolley back and forth with the rope for badness. :) -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <03C2EE88-2BA9-43BC-B840-F3155B819696 [at] earthlink.net> From: Brendan Quigley Subject: Terminology Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 14:48:51 -0400 howdy y'all ... as someone that speaks and understands English from both sides of the pond, "scaff clamps" and "cheseboros" are the same thing. They can be fixed or swivel, aluminum or steel, and can occasionally be found in sizes other than the +/- 2" versions that are most often used in the theatre/touring industries. But yeah ... the same thing. Never used the phrase "cheesed together" though ... On Jun 27, 2006, at 6:00 AM, Stagecraft wrote: dorian [at] essex.ac.uk writes: << terminology check..... As as ignorant overponder, can I assume that cheesing means using cheesboroughs and can I assume that cheesboroughs are standard nut tightened scaffold clamps, fixed and swivel? >> What's the line, two countries separated by a common language? To our friends on the other side of the pond, it's looking like I may be there for a couple of weeks in August ... it will be good to refresh my memories of Jolly Ol' ... that, and a proper cup of tea and fresh fish and chips are high on my list of things to get. Kind Regards, Brendan C. Quigley Head Electrician / Vari*Lite Technician WICKED - A New Broadway Musical ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060627120520.00c10110 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 12:05:20 From: CB Subject: Leico light? > "Heschong frequently uses 100-watt Leico units to light various parts of >the set. Goes without saying. There is a Gaffer somewhere hanging his head, covering his eyes with one hand and rubbing his temples with the other. DP's don't light the set. They decide what the picture should look like (think, 'frame designer') and the gaffer lights it so it looks like the DP describes. He probably says to his gaffer, "Go get me one of those 100W, 26 deg. leiaickcous that you used on 'Diongle Dell' to light that guy all the way over ther on the edge of the stadium for an 'eyelight'." And the Gaffer hands his head, holds his temples and mutters, "Sure, Gregg, whatever you say..." I'm just guessing that this is the same DP that was the DP for 'Heavy Traffic' in the 70's? Anyone else remember Bakshi's films? Is this the guy? If so, his first film was an animated feature (albeit a great one), and I think he worked on two straight to video projects since, other than his TV and commercial work. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:00:26 -0400 Message-Id: <8C8683315A00F09-2E4-3DDF [at] MBLK-R06.sysops.aol.com> From: iaeg [at] aol.com References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Terminology <> speaking of terminology, , , when does WICKED stop being a "New Broadway Musical" : - ) very best, Keith Arsenault International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida USA 813 831 3465 office ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:02:27 -0400 Subject: Re: Focus Track From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: The most serious reason for not using curtain track as a focus track is that the lip of the track, that which the carriers ride on, is cold rolled. That process could produce small cracks that would not be a problem for a curtain but could fail if a carrier with the weight of a person ran over it. We use aluminum I-Beam or T-beam with load rated beam trolleys. Bill S. ETCP Certified Rigger - Theatre www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 267.278.4561 mobile Join the Long Reach Long Riders on their 3rd annual cross country charity motorcycle ride. On 6/27/06 7:25 AM, "Delbert Hall" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > There are several issues of concern with using curtain track as a > focus track: 1) sections are spliced together uses a fraction clamp > rather than being through bolted together, and 2) the carriers do not > rated for the heavy loads (and certainly not for people). The track > and carriers that I have used for focus tracks are rated by the > manufacturer for supporting people. > > -Delbert ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060627121303.00c10110 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 12:13:03 From: CB Subject: Beer (again, was: RE: Air flow) >And is there such a thing as an "unhealthy" Guinness? Absolutely! I hate to argue with Doom, but in this particular case, he's just plain wrong. A healthy Guinness comes in a pint glass, an anemic one comes in a demitasse. Always come back to beer, here, dunnit? A lonely Guinness is a terrible thing as well. That's why they come in even numbers when you get bottles. I'm of to pour a bit of beer on the dogs, per Unk's instructions. Gotta be better than what they smell like now... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Laura McMeley" Subject: RE: Focus Track Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 14:14:09 -0500 Message-ID: <014701c69a1e$2b8a5420$6600a8c0 [at] tdolighting01> In-Reply-To: I have no idea if it was safety rated, but when I was in grad school we used focus trolleys built using metal tractor seats for the chair part. Those things are made to be sat in all day, they were the most comfortable focus chairs I've ever seen and haven't seen anything like it since. Laura, LD Dallas, TX 972-333-5016 > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Clive > Mitchell > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 12:11 PM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Re: Focus Track > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > In message , SS writes > >I know the question was already answered, but check out this link. > >http://www.sapsis-rigging.com/HEADS.html#product > > Looking at that picture there's only one thing I'd add.... A retrieval > rope so that if an operative using the equipment had an electrical > accident they could be pulled back over to an area where resuscitation > could be applied if required. > > (Mumble, mumble, DEFIBRILLATOR, mumble mumble!) > > -- > Clive Mitchell > http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "RD" Subject: RE: Beer (again, was: RE: Air flow) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:17:58 -0600 Message-ID: <005001c69a1e$672a2730$c083c447 [at] doom1> In-Reply-To: Unless, as I recall too vividly, the ten kegs I ordered for the Risk Management Rigging party in Ediboro were wrong. By the keg is not too bad. Doom -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of CB Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 12:13 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Beer (again, was: RE: Air flow) For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- >And is there such a thing as an "unhealthy" Guinness? Absolutely! I hate to argue with Doom, but in this particular case, he's just plain wrong. A healthy Guinness comes in a pint glass, an anemic one comes in a demitasse. Always come back to beer, here, dunnit? A lonely Guinness is a terrible thing as well. That's why they come in even numbers when you get bottles. I'm of to pour a bit of beer on the dogs, per Unk's instructions. Gotta be better than what they smell like now... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:21:46 -0400 Subject: Re: Focus Track From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: No worries, Clive. That's an easy one. You bring the money and we'll bring the gear. :-) Bill S ETCP Certified Rigger - Theatre www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 267.278.4561 mobile Join the Long Reach Long Riders on their 3rd annual cross country charity motorcycle ride. On 6/27/06 2:04 PM, "Clive Mitchell" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > In message , Delbert Hall > writes >> Hall's T70 is probably much better for a focus track. I do not know >> the WLL of the carriers for the T70 track, but you could always build >> a heavy duty carrier to fit that track. > > The Sapsis track looks a bit like a girder so it must be pretty robust. > It's just begging for a large battery, DC motor and pinch wheel to make > a little monorail for riding about in the grid all day. :) ------------------------------ Message-ID: <44A194C6.8050409 [at] dreampossible.ca> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:27:50 -0400 From: Jim Hyslop Organization: Dreampossible Inc. Subject: Re: Job Opening Cincinnati References: In-Reply-To: Paul Sanow wrote: > Thanks for the bandwidth. Back to your regularly scheduled discussions > of light ladders and trim chains. And beer! -- Jim Hyslop ------------------------------ Message-id: <17554727 [at] lorax.Dartmouth.ORG> Date: 27 Jun 2006 16:49:57 EDT From: Nathaniel.G.H.Wells.00 [at] Alum.Dartmouth.ORG (Nathaniel G. H. Wells 00) Subject: Re: Focus Track We are installing a focus track system for a project in Salt Lake City that is not only rated is more than legal. The system uses an I-beam secured to the underside of a Tomcat truss. On the I -beam are 3 i-beam trolleys. one is dedicated for a fall arrest harness and the other two are for attachment of a Chicago Flyhouse focus chair. This entire system carries a PSE stamp from the focus chair all the way back through to the cable winches. Nathan -------------------- Nathan Wells Stage Technologies Inc. 2061 Pabco Road Henderson, NV 89015 T: (702) 990-0864 F:(702) 990-0878 Cell: (702) 289-5768 Visit our Website: www.stagetech.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:57:33 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: fireworks Message-id: <7.0.1.0.0.20060627135311.01f679f0 [at] interstellar.com> In case anyone is in the area and wants to say hi... On July 1 we'll be doing the Monte Rio, California fireworks show and will be camping on the beach. We'll clean/pack up on the 2nd. On July 3rd we'll be at Pier 50, San Francisco setting up a barge for a show the next day. On July 4th we meet the barge in Pittsburg (other side of SF Bay) and shoot/clean up. July 5th we get back home and try to catch up on work. :) -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com 219 Oak Wood Way, Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:23:51 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: fireworks References: In-Reply-To: In message , Jerry Durand writes >On July 1 we'll be doing the Monte Rio, California fireworks show and >will be camping on the beach. We'll clean/pack up on the 2nd. Remember to prepare some barbeque "sprinkles" to spice up the barby after the foods all been scoffed... http://www.emanator.demon.co.uk/bigclive/bbq.htm -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <44A1C113.9070505 [at] dreampossible.ca> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 19:36:51 -0400 From: Jim Hyslop Organization: Dreampossible Inc. Subject: Re: Leico light? References: In-Reply-To: Jon Ares wrote: > Ugh. Earlier this morning I read an article in a film industry mag > about the DP on "The New Adventures of Old Christine." To quote (I > found the same article online at another film/video site): Care to share the name of this rag, so we can avoid it in the future? -- Jim Hyslop ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000301c69a47$c492fa40$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References:

Subject: Re: Leico light? Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:14:05 -0700 > Jon Ares wrote: >> Ugh. Earlier this morning I read an article in a film industry mag >> about the DP on "The New Adventures of Old Christine." To quote (I >> found the same article online at another film/video site): > Care to share the name of this rag, so we can avoid it in the future? Well, I read it initially in "Videography" mag - a CMP Entertainment Media owned mag, but as I said, when I looked online, I found the same article in at least one other mag/website. These mega-conglomerates of the press own so many mags, and share articles between them, so it's not uncommon to see the same article a month or two later in a different mag. I decided to check out the pedigree of the author (Elina Shatkin) - because sometimes industry mags will pad their pages with articles by 'stringers' or people who typically write for consumer magazines and newspapers (or an enthusiastic patron of the arts) - but this writer actually is an independent filmmaker, and has written quite a lot for Videography, and many other journals. So... shame on her. :) And shame on whoever should have been the editor of the original story. - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 20:31:26 -0400 Subject: Re: Focus Track From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sheesh. Can't get away with anything around here:-) The track gets a piece of aluminum angle bolted to both sides of the web. That way we have a positive stop for both sides of the beam trolley. And yes, it was shot in the shop and she was high enough so that her feet didn't drag on the floor. K? K Bill S ETCP Certified Rigger - Theatre www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 267.278.4561 mobile Join the Long Reach Long Riders on their 3rd annual cross country charity motorcycle ride. On 6/27/06 1:54 PM, "Jerry Durand" wrote: > In the picture it also looks like the track ends just in front of the > chair, hopefully there's a stop block in the track. :) (I know the > picture was probably posed with only one section of track a few feet > off the floor at Bill's shop.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:38:19 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Focus Track In-reply-to: Message-id: <8D8F8EB5-85F6-4F4F-A22D-28878E272CB7 [at] interstellar.com> References: On Jun 27, 2006, at 5:31 PM, Bill Sapsis wrote: > And yes, it was shot in the shop and she was high enough so that > her feet > didn't drag on the floor. Well, shooting the picture in your shop gets you a much better looking background and lighting than most real situations. Also, the camera operator doesn't need to have wings to get up there. :) ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Occy" Cc: chip.wood [at] ieee.org References: Subject: Re: Air flow Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:45:24 -0700 Ok just got back from getting my oil changed for a trip Vegas, at Jiffy Lube. All the "plumbing" was done in copper with compression fittings except the vacuum line for the used oil which was done in galvanized. It must have been a electrician that installed all the copper plumbing as it was bent like conduit, and looked real good too, the galvanized used standard pipe fittings. ------------------------------ From: "Joe Saint" Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 02:42:12 +0000 Subject: Good to be back Greetings to all my old stagecraft friends, and how-do to all those new f= olks since i was last on "the list." Since I was last here, I have left my old company (those of you who know = where I was know its name, for the rest of you, I have no desire to promo= te it) as of the first of this year. I have since started my own lightin= g design firm called IMCD Lighting. IMCD -- Intensity | Movement | Color | Distribution -- The Qualities of L= ight for those of you who don't remember (or never knew) your Stanley McC= andless. For those of you who don't, Frank (if he's still around) can ce= rtainly explain everything you ever wanted to know about McCandless. I just finished my MBA from the Executive program at the Stern School of = Business (NYU) where I studied with a good friend of Herrick's (small wor= ld). So now I have the business learning (MBA) to go with my artistic ed= ucation (MFA, UVa). Hopefull it will yield a good combo. However, I don't consider my education done and in running this company, = I need to stay abreast of the latest in design and tech, plus keeping awa= re of all the newest safety techniques, therefore I turn once again to St= agecraft. Besides, one can never know too much about beer and scotch. It's good to be back. Joe Joe Saint President IMCD Lighting 646-415-7588 www.imcdlighting.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000501c69a5e$ceeb7aa0$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: Good to be back Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 19:59:01 -0700 > Greetings to all my old stagecraft friends, and how-do to all those new > folks since i was last on "the list." Welcome back, congratulations, and all that good stuff! Here's wishing you lots of success in your new chapter (and exciting projects so you can put something on your webpage)! Don't forget all us little people..... :) - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 01:14:05 -0400 From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: Tutorial for ETC Express Someone on the list had mentioned that they had created a tutorial for an ETC Express control board. If that person can contact me privately, I am in serious need of one immediately. Thanks. -Delbert ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #858 *****************************