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X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 34545856; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:42:14 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=ADVANCE_FEE_1,ADVANCE_FEE_2, AWL,DEAR_SOMETHING,NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=no version=3.1.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on localhost X-Spam-Level: X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #940 Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:40:12 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #940 1. Re: Hullo? by Herrick Goldman 2. Re: Hullo? by "Delbert Hall" 3. Re: Hullo? by KEITH ARSENAULT 4. Re: Side note: by Herrick Goldman 5. Re: Side note: by KEITH ARSENAULT 6. Re: New Black Box Theaters by Cosmo Catalano 7. Re: Wagon question by "Delbert Hall" 8. Re: Hardboard floors by "Bill Conner" 9. Re: Vectorworks printing thing by Steve Shelley 10. PLASA. by Clive Mitchell 11. Re: PLASA. by "Tony Deeming" 12. POPfile email filter: outstanding! by "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" 13. Re: Hullo? by SS 14. Re: Side note: by "Bill Nelson" 15. Re: Hullo? by 16. Re: ESTA Electrician exam confusions by "Bill Nelson" 17. Re: CD-80 Dimmer Pack flickering Problems by "Bill Nelson" 18. Re: Hullo? by "Ken Romaine" 19. Re: CD-80 Dimmer Pack flickering Problems by Charlie Fraser 20. Re: Hullo? by "Jon Ares" 21. Re: Hullo? by "Paul Schreiner" 22. Re: PLASA. by "Nigel Worsley" 23. Re: POPfile email filter: outstanding! by "Adrian van der Merwe" 24. Re: Hullo? by Rigger 25. Hullo? by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 26. Re: ESTA Electrician exam confusions by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 27. Re: Side note: by Rigger 28. Re: Hullo? by Rigger 29. Re: Hullo? by Rigger 30. Re: Hullo? by Rigger 31. Re: PLASA. by "Kevin Linzey" 32. Re: Hullo? by Rigger 33. Re: Hullo? by Rigger 34. Re: confetti cannons by Loren Schreiber 35. Re: Hullo? by Rigger 36. Re: Hullo? by Rigger 37. Re: Hardboard floors by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 38. Re: PLASA. by "Tony Deeming" 39. Re: Lucas Prince of Darkness (sorta OT) by Loren Schreiber 40. Re: Hullo? by Bill Sapsis 41. Re: CD-80 Dimmer Pack flickering Problems by "B.H. Ackler" 42. Re: Side note: by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 43. Re: Hullo? by MissWisc [at] aol.com 44. Re: Hullo? by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 45. Re: color blind cue lights by "Michael Powers" 46. Re: Spud Gun by "Paul Guncheon" 47. Re: Hullo? by "Paul Guncheon" 48. Re: Lucas Prince of Darkness (sorta OT) by Herrick Goldman 49. Re: Hullo? by Rigger 50. Re: Hullo? by Bill Sapsis 51. Re: Hullo? by Stephen Litterst 52. Re: Lucas Prince of Darkness (sorta OT) by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 53. Re: Side note: by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 54. Re: Hullo? by Rigger 55. Re: Hullo? by Rigger 56. Re: Side note: by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 57. Re: Hullo? by Ian Schmidt 58. Re: Hullo? by Clive Mitchell 59. Re: Hullo? by Clive Mitchell 60. Re: Lucas Prince of Darkness (sorta OT) by Clive Mitchell 61. Re: PLASA. by Clive Mitchell 62. Re: color blind cue lights by "Bill Nelson" 63. Re: Lucas Prince of Darkness (sorta OT) by Herrick Goldman 64. Re: Hullo? by JDruc3737 [at] aol.com 65. Re: color blind cue lights by "Bill Nelson" 66. Re: color blind cue lights by Rigger 67. Re: Hullo? by Rigger 68. Re: Hullo? by Rigger 69. Re: color blind cue lights by "Bill Nelson" 70. Re: Side note: by CB 71. Re: color blind cue lights by CB 72. Re: PLASA. by "Ian Cunningham" 73. Re: color blind cue lights by 74. Re: color blind cue lights by CB 75. Hullo? by CB 76. Moving Heads : MAC 500'S MAC 600'S by 77. Re: color blind cue lights by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 78. Re: Moving Heads : MAC 500'S MAC 600'S by "Storms, Randy" 79. Hullo's Quotes by stagecraft [at] frederickfrank.com 80. Re: Moving Heads : MAC 500'S MAC 600'S by 81. Re: color blind cue lights by "Fred Schoening, Jr." 82. Re: Moving Heads : MAC 500'S MAC 600'S by Herrick Goldman 83. Re: color blind cue lights by "Jon Lagerquist" 84. sound mixer to follow cues by "Byron Lovelace" 85. Re: Moving Heads : MAC 500'S MAC 600'S by "John Penisten" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 06:58:37 -0400 Subject: Re: Hullo? From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Dear sir, we regret to inform you that your membership in the stagecraft, Beer, and Sci-fi discussion group has lapsed. Since your departure we have implemented an ESTA approved stagecraft e-mail certification test. This test was developed by dozens of "qualified" techies. It includes such questions as What is the best micro-beer in Northern New York State? Where is the Best BBQ in Manhattan? Define POSH and it's etymology? Pronounce "Houston". Which Sapsis twin gets to touch hotter women? And the bonus question: "Is Frank Wood ever right?; explain in one paragraph or less" Down the Hall CB will test your spelling and proof-reading skillz. Upon completion of this test you will be welcomed back with open arms. An information packet will be sent to you shortly. -Herrick -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 06:53:12 -0400 From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: Re: Hullo? In-Reply-To: References:

Glad to have you back Dave, we have missed ya. -Delbert -- Delbert L. Hall 423-773-4255 ETCP Certified Rigger - Theatre ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <67DF62BA-D06A-409D-98DF-96F05E2CECD6 [at] aol.com> From: KEITH ARSENAULT Subject: Re: Hullo? Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 06:54:00 -0400 gee, , , , now I know I will never lapse my membership and participation on the list, , tough quizz, , glad I am grandfathered in, , On Sep 7, 2006, at 6:58 AM, Herrick Goldman wrote: For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Dear sir, we regret to inform you that your membership in the stagecraft, Beer, and Sci-fi discussion group has lapsed. Since your departure we have implemented an ESTA approved stagecraft e-mail certification test. This test was developed by dozens of "qualified" techies. It includes such questions as What is the best micro-beer in Northern New York State? Where is the Best BBQ in Manhattan? Define POSH and it's etymology? Pronounce "Houston". Which Sapsis twin gets to touch hotter women? And the bonus question: "Is Frank Wood ever right?; explain in one paragraph or less" Down the Hall CB will test your spelling and proof-reading skillz. Upon completion of this test you will be welcomed back with open arms. An information packet will be sent to you shortly. -Herrick -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS Keith L Arsenault Tampa, Florida 813 831 3465 office 813 205 0893 cellular iaeg [at] aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 07:08:46 -0400 Subject: Re: Side note: From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: That's funny. I actually thought they really did make refrigerators and that's why their cars sucked. -H >> >> Ehm, never invoke the work of the 'Prince of Darkness'in a public forum. I >> was introduced to Lucas Electrics in a '72 MG. This is how I learned that >> 'earth' is 'ground', and not negative the world over. Lucas is a bit of a >> joke in the automotive industry. Well, a bit of a punchline anyways. >> "Why do Americans drink their beer cold?" >> "So as to tell it from urine." >> "Why do the Brits drink their beer warm?" >> "'Cause Lucas also makes refridgeration." -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: KEITH ARSENAULT Subject: Re: Side note: Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 07:04:12 -0400 of course there is GENERAL MOTORS / FRIDGIDAIRE and FORD / PHILCO I will leave you to comment on those respective products, , , On Sep 7, 2006, at 7:08 AM, Herrick Goldman wrote: That's funny. I actually thought they really did make refrigerators and that's why their cars sucked. Keith L Arsenault Tampa, Florida 813 831 3465 office 813 205 0893 cellular iaeg [at] aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 07:38:53 -0400 From: Cosmo Catalano Subject: RE: New Black Box Theaters Cc: salukitd [at] gmail.com Message-id: Patrick-- We have a pretty good attempt at a studio theatre ("Centerstage") here at Williams that was just completed two years ago. I think it solves lots of problems inherent in these spaces. The glossy info can be found at: http://www.williams.edu/resources/62center/images.php and http://www.tpcworld.com/portfolio.asp?section=4&level2=36&level3=0 (Look for "Williams College" under Academic Facilities) For the inside scoop contact me and I can provide details. Hard to pin down the actual PSF dollars, but we are in the mid to high $300's, including typical production equipment. Cosmo Cosmo Catalano Technical Supervisor 62 Center for Theatre and Dance Williams College 1000 Main St. Williamstown, MA 01267 413-597-2590 (office) 413-597-4474 (fax) 413-822-0094 (cell) ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 07:43:09 -0400 From: "Delbert Hall" Cc: jon [at] lagerquist.com Subject: Re: Wagon question In-Reply-To: References:

In Technical Brief Collection, Vol. 1, there are two articles on using nylon rollers to make low profile wagon. Nylon Rollers by Ray Forton (pp.190-191) and Nylon Rollers Modified by Thomas G. Bliese (p. 192). In Technical Brief Collection, Vol. 2, there is one article, Nylon Rollers Revisited by Jum Ryan (pp.188 - 189). Bliese's and Ryans designs create a 1-1/4" tall wagon (1/4" floor clearance) . -Delbert-- Delbert L. Hall 423-773-4255 ETCP Certified Rigger - Theatre ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002601c6d273$aa8ac150$6401a8c0 [at] BCA1> Reply-To: "Bill Conner" From: "Bill Conner" Subject: Re: Hardboard floors Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 06:49:24 -0500 There's no simple answer. It is a humidity issue and different brands and models of hardboards react differently to humidity changes. I use to specify a Georgia Pacific product called PL90 which because of the species of wood used and the process changed size very little with humidity changes. I guess this didn't matter to many because they dropped the line as best I can tell. I also specify that the prime coat be oil based, based on manufacturers' recommendations. But then again, you won't find many hardboard manufacturers recommending their product for flooring. I believe the standard test is change in dimension from 5% to 95% relative humidity - I forget at what temperature - and I found one once that changed a 1/4" in 4'. Based on your practice and the fact that you probably don't and can't afford to specify a particular premium brand and probably want to use water based paints from the start, continue to space it. I use a nickel but that is probably close to a washer. Stage flooring remains a somewhat uncertain issue on nearly every project. Products and methods that sometimes have worked for years suddenly have a problem. I really appreciate all the posts here in trying to get some better handle on how to design and specify a failure proof system but, based on the differences in practice and preference expressed here, my goal is probably not attainable. Bill C. ASTC, ESTA CR-T ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 07:51:23 -0400 Subject: Re: Vectorworks printing thing From: Steve Shelley Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Hello ken; You may have more luck finding vectorworks printing assistance at the nemetschek tech board: http://techboard.nemetschek.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php At first glance, it would appear that your problem may have more to do with the print driver rather than with the application. On the other hand, one quick potential fix nemetschek tech support has often suggested to me is: copy the entire drawing and paste it into a new document. Then try to print the new document. In some cases this can heal document corruption. On the other hand, it may have no impact whatsoever. YMMV. Hth, shelley On 9/6/06 4:48 PM, "ken frederickson" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > vector works 9.5 user. > I can not print multiple copies of a drawing from the > print window. I choose more than one copy and it will > only print one. any ideas? > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com -- Steve Shelley SoftSymbols Designer MrTemplate [at] Earthlink.net www.fieldtemplate.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 12:52:58 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: PLASA. Who's going to PLASA in the UK this year? I should be there on 12th and 13th. -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ From: "Tony Deeming" Subject: RE: PLASA. Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 12:57:57 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: I'll (hopefully) be there on Tuesday (12th) with a couple of colleagues - would be great to meet, Clive, after all these years of amusement...! I'll be in black (of course) polo with theatre logo... TD > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Clive > Mitchell > Sent: 07 September 2006 12:53 > To: Stagecraft > Subject: PLASA. > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Who's going to PLASA in the UK this year? > > I should be there on 12th and 13th. > > -- > Clive Mitchell > http://www.bigclive.com > ------------------------------ From: "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" Subject: POPfile email filter: outstanding! Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 08:18:52 -0400 Message-ID: <00a201c6d277$c8104b10$7f9bfea9 [at] p3m866> A few weeks ago I commented about increasing volumes of unwanted spam, particularly stuff that is image-based. Someone -- Nathan, I believe? -- suggested POPfile to filter this stuff out of my inbox. It is truly fantastic! Although it took some perseverance to get through 3 weeks of training the program, it has not made an error in the past 10 days. I've got it sorting email for two different companies, several user groups, faxes (which I receive as email), other, and spam. Most remarkably, it successfully sorts those last two categories -- it identifies unusual mail that doesn't fit into a regular category but is NOT junk! Check it out at: http://popfile.sourceforge.net/ Jim RC4 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <8231e7ea0609070522t1d5d2046pdd58faf4775bbfd6 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 08:22:07 -0400 From: SS Subject: Re: Hullo? In-Reply-To: References:

and all the answers to those quiz questions can be found on Wikipedia. but are they right? -SS TTS-EKU "Give a man a match, and he'll be warm for a minute. But set him on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." > we regret to inform you that your membership in the stagecraft, Beer, and > Sci-fi discussion group has lapsed. Since your departure we have implemented > an ESTA approved stagecraft e-mail certification test. This test was > developed by dozens of "qualified" techies. It includes such questions as > > What is the best micro-beer in Northern New York State? > > Where is the Best BBQ in Manhattan? > > Define POSH and it's etymology? > > Pronounce "Houston". > > Which Sapsis twin gets to touch hotter women? > > And the bonus question: > > "Is Frank Wood ever right?; explain in one paragraph or less" > > Down the Hall CB will test your spelling and proof-reading skillz. > > Upon completion of this test you will be welcomed back with open arms. > > An information packet will be sent to you shortly. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1491.205.215.253.116.1157632726.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 05:38:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Side note: From: "Bill Nelson" > Lucas shouldn't ever pose a real problem, cause you'll never get the > S.U. Carburettors suitably balanced to be able to drive the damn thing > anyhow! I once owned an Austin Marina that had been souped up by the dealer's son. Nice hot little coupe, when I could keep it running. I never did completely figure out the electrics - they were the only problem I had with the vehicle. Bill ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Hullo? Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 08:49:32 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: HI DAVE VICK!!! PLEASURE TO SEE YOUR NAME IN THE INBOX AGAIN. WELCOME BACK! For those of you unfamiliar with "Rigger", you will find him knowledgeable, willing to share and opinionated - in every good sense of the word. Best, Steve Rees, SUNY-Fredonia=20 -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Rigger Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 7:27 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Hullo? For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- [*peeking around corner*] I see some familiar names... Any room for a reformed truck driver here? (yes, i'm back on the call list. relenquish all hope, &c.) -- Dave Vick IATSE #274 Carpe Per Diem Cogito, Ergo Zoom ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1516.205.215.253.116.1157633383.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 05:49:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: ESTA Electrician exam confusions From: "Bill Nelson" > At this point, I am satisfied that the writers of the test do agree that > the question was ambiguous and since it is a sample question, I am not > worried about seeing it on a test. I trust Ken when he says that the > test will be reviewed for such ambiguous language. Thanks for following up on this. I assume that they will rewrite the sample question, to remove the ambiguity. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1538.205.215.253.116.1157634192.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 06:03:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: CD-80 Dimmer Pack flickering Problems From: "Bill Nelson" > If your control card gets fried, you can also look at the retrofit card > from > Johnson Systems at http://www.johnsonsystems.com/strand_cd80_pack.htm. I > have used their retrofits on a number of older Strand installations and > been very satisfied with the results. Looks good. Thanks for the link. Can you tell us what the list price is for the two versions? Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 09:08:57 -0400 From: "Ken Romaine" Subject: Re: Hullo? In-Reply-To: References: Good to have you back! You were missed, but watch out, our aim is improving. -- Ken Romaine Business Development Manager Barco Media & Entertainment The opinions expressed here are mine - all mine - no matter how much I want to impose them on the rest of the world. On 9/6/06, Rigger wrote: > > [*peeking around corner*] > > I see some familiar names... Any room for a reformed truck driver here? > > (yes, i'm back on the call list. relenquish all hope, &c.) > > -- > Dave Vick > IATSE #274 > Carpe Per Diem > Cogito, Ergo Zoom ------------------------------ Message-ID: <45001C2D.7000906 [at] charliefraser.com> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 09:18:37 -0400 From: Charlie Fraser Subject: Re: CD-80 Dimmer Pack flickering Problems References:

In-Reply-To: All- Thank you so much for the advice! We are going to eliminate the XLR cable and potential line power problems. We had the remnants of Ernesto last weekend which caused many power problems in the area. If all else fails I will call Strand\Century or whatever it's called this week ;-) Thanks again to all in times of crisis you guys are my lifeline to sanity!! Charlie Jon Ares wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > >> Century Strand. Strand Century. Rank Strand. Whatever it is this year. >> /s/ Richard > > > Genlyte. :) > > - Jon Ares > www.hevanet.com/acreative > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <003901c6d280$5d638d50$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: Hullo? Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 06:20:19 -0700 > > [*peeking around corner*] > > I see some familiar names... Any room for a reformed truck driver here? > > (yes, i'm back on the call list. relenquish all hope, &c.) Welcome back, Dave! Frank Wood over there will take you to the Hospitality Room.... - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Hullo? Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 09:21:46 -0400 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A061910EE [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> In-Reply-To: From: "Paul Schreiner" Cc: stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com > > (yes, i'm back on the call list. relenquish all hope, &c.) >=20 > Well, damn. There goes the neighborhood.... Oh, like it hadn't been on the fast track to hell already. WB, Dave. :) ------------------------------ Message-ID: <004801c6d283$0ad444f0$0e00a8c0 [at] Nogle> From: "Nigel Worsley" References: Subject: Re: PLASA. Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:34:52 +0100 > Who's going to PLASA in the UK this year? I will be there, haven't sorted out which day yet. Or more to the point, which pub! Nigel Worsley ------------------------------ Message-ID: <003a01c6d283$42ba6b60$0d00000a [at] adrianxp> From: "Adrian van der Merwe" References: Subject: Re: POPfile email filter: outstanding! Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:40:48 +0200 I will second this, once trained it is (almost) perfect! For me, one or two messages in a thousand is sorted wrong. Adrian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 2:18 PM Subject: POPfile email filter: outstanding! For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- A few weeks ago I commented about increasing volumes of unwanted spam, particularly stuff that is image-based. Someone -- Nathan, I believe? -- suggested POPfile to filter this stuff out of my inbox. It is truly fantastic! Although it took some perseverance to get through 3 weeks of training the program, it has not made an error in the past 10 days. I've got it sorting email for two different companies, several user groups, faxes (which I receive as email), other, and spam. Most remarkably, it successfully sorts those last two categories -- it identifies unusual mail that doesn't fit into a regular category but is NOT junk! Check it out at: http://popfile.sourceforge.net/ Jim RC4 ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 09:41:33 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Hullo? At 6:58 AM -0400 9/7/06, Herrick Goldman wrote: >Dear sir, > > we regret to inform you that your membership in the stagecraft, Beer, and >Sci-fi discussion group has lapsed. Since your departure we have implemented >an ESTA approved stagecraft e-mail certification test. This test was >developed by dozens of "qualified" techies. It includes such questions as > >What is the best micro-beer in Northern New York State? True >Where is the Best BBQ in Manhattan? False >Define POSH and it's etymology? True >Pronounce "Houston". HOW-ston. >Which Sapsis twin gets to touch hotter women? False >And the bonus question: > > "Is Frank Wood ever right?; explain in one paragraph or less" False >Down the Hall CB will test your spelling and proof-reading skillz. 3xC3lL3N7! i hAv3 MAD 7Ypin' 5kill2 7o DI5plAY 7o Chri2. (it's nice to be back in the asylum... that outside-world stuff's for the birds) -- Dave Vick IATSE #274 Carpe Per Diem ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:40:51 GMT Subject: Hullo? Message-Id: <20060907.064101.8266.454363 [at] webmail37.lax.untd.com> Welcome back. Pull up a chair. I'm glad that you are among the living. /s/ Richard _________________________ [*peeking around corner*] I see some familiar names... Any room for a reformed truck driver = here? (yes, I'm back on the call list. relinquish all hope, &c.) ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:44:29 GMT Subject: Re: ESTA Electrician exam confusions Message-Id: <20060907.064508.8266.454389 [at] webmail37.lax.untd.com> Works for me. /s/ Richard __________________________ I trust Ken when he says that the test will be reviewed for such = ambiguous language. ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 09:43:56 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Side note: At 5:38 AM -0700 9/7/06, Bill Nelson wrote: >I once owned an Austin Marina that had been souped up by the dealer's son. >Nice hot little coupe, when I could keep it running. I never did >completely figure out the electrics... Neither did Lucas. -- Dave Vick IATSE #274 Carpe Per Diem ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 09:45:59 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Hullo? At 8:49 AM -0400 9/7/06, wrote: > For those of you unfamiliar with "Rigger", you will find him > knowledgeable, willing to share and opinionated - in every > good sense of the word. Opinionated, yes... Knowledgeable? I wouldn't go that far. (okay, who has Uncle Bill been chronically disagreeing with in my absence?) -- Dave Vick IATSE #274 Carpe Per Diem ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 09:47:05 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Hullo? At 9:08 AM -0400 9/7/06, Ken Romaine wrote: >You were missed, but watch out, our aim is improving. So has mine, sir; so has mine. -- Dave Vick IATSE #274 Carpe Per Diem ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 09:51:08 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Hullo? At 8:29 PM -0400 9/6/06, Stuart Wheaton wrote: >If you want to use rigger as a handle, you need to repeat the following, >so we will know you can be trusted.... "All Hail the Great and all >knowing Bill Sapsis, Mightiest and bravest of all the Riggers, A man who's >judgement is never questioned!" Erm.... Questioning is my *job*, Stuart. >Welcome back! We missed you. It was too quiet. I was sure tempted to >mention that I thought you'd be back soon after your last e-mail. Why, because I never parked the truck in Cinci for a beer? Good on ya for the 450; I shot a 2605-32X up here the other weekend. -- Dave Vick IATSE #274 Carpe Per Diem ------------------------------ Subject: RE: PLASA. Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 09:58:41 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Kevin Linzey" I'll be there along with a few other people from NNA and Computers Unlimited.=20 Stop by the booth and say hello and catch a preview of the latest release of Vectorworks Spotlight. Kevin ---------------------------- Kevin Linzey Nemetschek North America Integrated Products Engineer ----------------------------- > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf=20 > Of Clive Mitchell > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 7:53 AM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: PLASA. >=20 > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see=20 > > --------------------------------------------------- >=20 > Who's going to PLASA in the UK this year? >=20 > I should be there on 12th and 13th. >=20 > -- > Clive Mitchell > http://www.bigclive.com >=20 ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 09:59:03 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Hullo? At 8:49 PM -0500 9/6/06, Philip Johnson wrote: >Does this mean you're back in Lansing as well? Never left... I just took a break from the Industry for a while. There was a bit too much bovine excretia flowing around the Wharton Center for a while and I needed to get away before I burned out completely. 16 months of over-the-road semi[1] driving'll *definitely* take you away from it all. Including your home, your spouse, your what-passes-for-a-life... I thought I might eventually end up driving for Janco or Clark Transfer or Upstaging or Stage Call or &c... Couldn't do it. I decided that, at the end of the day, all the political bullshit and ego nonsense onstage is ridiculous, but it's the type of ridiculousness that I spent better than two decades learning and living; it's *MY* ridiculousness, and I missed it more fully than I ever imagined I would... And so I'm back, continuing my never-ending quest to make the world a little more surreal every day. -- Dave Vick IATSE #274 Carpe Per Diem [1] "Lorry" for our cousins 'cross the pond ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:00:01 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Hullo? At 10:03 PM -0400 9/6/06, MissWisc [at] aol.com wrote: >DAVE! >Missed you tons! Glad you're back! Missed you, too. >Kristi >(Yes, I'm THAT excited!!!) Don't tell Brian... -- Dave Vick IATSE #274 Carpe Per Diem ------------------------------ Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20060907065225.0451e980 [at] mail.sdsu.edu> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 07:04:33 -0700 From: Loren Schreiber Subject: Re: confetti cannons In-Reply-To: References: I've built a few confetti cannons over the years and found that a small, commercial, nitrogen gas cylinder (with the valve removed) makes an excellent tank. It has a 3/4" NPT outlet which permits the air to escape in a good, quick burst. I use a 3/4" ASCO Redhat 2port, 2 position, solenoid valve to trigger the cannon. I put a regular inner-tube type stem valve on a T at the neck of the tank to permit filling with shop air. The business end of the cannon is just a piece of 2" PVC with enough reducers to attach it to the 3/4" outlet of the Redhat valve. No worries about a homebrew tank blowing up. Loren Schreiber, Technical Director San Diego State University School of Theatre, Television and Film ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:06:55 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Hullo? At 7:33 PM -0400 9/6/06, Bill Sapsis wrote: >Welcome back you old son of a sea serpent. "Sea serpent?" >How the heck are ya? Spiffy! Tuning up the new-to-me 2-wheeler today. When's the next LBLR? -- Dave Vick rigger [at] tds.net I'm happier than a tattoo on a super-model ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:11:06 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Hullo? At 3:06 AM +0100 9/7/06, Clive Mitchell wrote: >Strange I was thinking of you recently Dave. I hadn't seen any >posts from you on the list and wondered if you'd ditched the >industry or worse still succumbed to your dicky ticker. >For fear of the latter I refrained from asking on the list. Took a little break, Clive... Had to freshen out my brain. >Good to see you're still hanging about. >(So have you been truckin'?) Sixteen months, 170,000+ miles; from Manistee, Michigan to Savannah, Georgia; from Zanesville, Ohio to Carroll, Iowa, and pretty much all points in between... I will *never* buy groceries from a big chain store again. -- Dave Vick rigger [at] tds.net I don't really think we gave barbarism a fair try. ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:11:05 GMT Subject: Re: Hardboard floors Message-Id: <20060907.071151.8266.454556 [at] webmail37.lax.untd.com> I use and reuse the thicker brass 'fender-style' washers which are = easier to remove. I also have found that attaching with mastic on 16" = centers, 1/4" x 1 1/4" x 8' pieces of lath laid flat on the underside = of the deck makes a 3/4" plywood floor over concrete in a shop or = cross-over space much easier to walk on by actors, dancers, or crew. = /s/ Richard _______________________________ I use a nickel but that is probably close to a washer. I really appreciate all the posts here in trying to get some better = handle on how to design and specify a failure proof system but, based = on the differences in practice and preference expressed here, my goal = is probably not attainable. Bill C. ------------------------------ From: "Tony Deeming" Subject: RE: PLASA. Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:13:12 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Blue Roomers are meeting at the Tournament, down the road. I shan't, however, as I think they have the 'official' meet from 3pm on Wednesday. > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Nigel > Worsley > Sent: 07 September 2006 14:35 > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Re: PLASA. > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > Who's going to PLASA in the UK this year? > > I will be there, haven't sorted out which day yet. Or more to the > point, which pub! > > Nigel Worsley > > ------------------------------ Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20060907070443.04521eb0 [at] mail.sdsu.edu> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 07:16:47 -0700 From: Loren Schreiber Subject: Re: Lucas Prince of Darkness (sorta OT) In-Reply-To: References: I complained to my friend, the sound guy and fellow British car owner, that my '68 E-type Jag had caught fire behind the dash while on my way to the theatre that night. His response was, "OK . . . and?" I believed he used his '65 Spitfire (aptly named) to light his cigarettes--and he was a heavy smoker. I learned a lot about mechanical systems, electrical systems and metalwork while I owned that car. And I still apply much of what I learned to problems in theatre, so I can't really complain. My relationship with that car was like that with my first wife: she was beautiful, high maintenance and I really loved her--but I couldn't live with her either. Loren Schreiber, Technical Director San Diego State University School of Theatre, Television and Film ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 10:17:27 -0400 Subject: Re: Hullo? From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: On 9/7/06 10:06 AM, "Rigger" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > At 7:33 PM -0400 9/6/06, Bill Sapsis wrote: > >> Welcome back you old son of a sea serpent. > > "Sea serpent?" I dunno. Spur of the moment. > > >> How the heck are ya? > > Spiffy! Tuning up the new-to-me 2-wheeler today. When's the next LBLR? We're the LRLR now. Got our own website and everything. WWW.LRLR.org Should have an announcement by the end of this month for, hopefully, the next couple of years. I got me a new one too! VTX1300. It's purty. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <8013715.1157638878453.JavaMail.root [at] elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 07:21:17 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: "B.H. Ackler" Reply-To: "B.H. Ackler" Subject: RE: CD-80 Dimmer Pack flickering Problems Subject: RE: CD-80 Dimmer Pack flickering Problems Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 09:42:57 -0400 >> Century Strand. Strand Century. Rank Strand. Whatever it is this year. > Genlyte That's StrandGenLyteing Bryan H. Ackler Portland, Oregon Stand & Genlyte Alumnus ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:23:21 GMT Subject: Re: Side note: Message-Id: <20060907.072418.8266.454649 [at] webmail37.lax.untd.com> The Ford component in Jaguars is increasing quite rapidly as we speak. The VW engineering influence in Rolls Royce cars is becoming clearer. /s/ Richard _________________________________ And now, the entire British auto industry is foreign, with = substantial German investment... Charlie ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <56f.4bca87a.3231864d [at] aol.com> Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:27:25 EDT Subject: Re: Hullo? rigger [at] tds.net writes: << >Kristi >(Yes, I'm THAT excited!!!) Don't tell Brian... >> Too late! He understands. Can never have too many friends - especially the rare ones with whom you can disagree about a point but still love as a friend. I missed that. Kristi ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:28:57 GMT Subject: Re: Hullo? Message-Id: <20060907.072927.8266.454684 [at] webmail37.lax.untd.com> Have you installed the concealed rigging points so you can hang it, = out of harm's way, over your booth at a future USITT Conference? /s/ Richard _________________________ We're the LRLR now. Got our own website and everything. WWW.LRLR.org Should have an announcement by the end of this month for, hopefully, = the next couple of years. I got me a new one too! VTX1300. It's purty. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <58f67b0f0609070730j1dcf8080qc5a5f2a7ef6dfd21 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 09:30:06 -0500 From: "Michael Powers" Subject: Re: color blind cue lights Bruce Purdy writes: On 6 Sep 2006, at 07:20, CB wrote: ,,..........All new construction was mandated to include a handicap elevator .............. we had to carry them up and down the stairs because the elevator was restricted to "Handicap use only"! ........>> It is this type of "blind" compliance to a regulation or over zealous PC thinking that drives me crazy (ier) !! Long ago and far away I was on the faculty of an institute of higher learning that shall remain nameless. During renovation of one of the buildings, someone discovered that the restroom in the ballet rehearsal room was not handicapped accessible. After a big public to-do the administration and the contractor agreed to make the restroom accessible. This involved moving two walls and relocating the door to the main hallway. The money that was slated for a new set of portable dance barres went to the toilet. Of course the very politically Correct complainer never brought up the fact that the rehearsal room in question was accessible only by climbing two flights of narrow stairs. Michael Michael Powers Director of Operations Central Lighting & Equipment 1720 Fuller Rd. Suite 150 West Des Moines Iowa 50265 515-277-4190 877-977-4190 Fax 515-277-2295 515-557-0178 cell michael [at] clelights.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001201c6d28a$cd306ae0$0202a8c0 [at] HUNKACRAP> From: "Paul Guncheon" References: Subject: Re: Spud Gun Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 04:35:00 -1000 <> The spud guns I have seen do not use valves... they use hairspray (or some other volatile spray) and a piezo igniter. The confetti cannons I have built use a pneumatic solenoid valve. Get the largest you can afford with the minimum probably being 1". Capping the barrel with taped on paper will give you added thrust as the paper causes pressure to build up in the barrel. This helps smaller orifice valves. Laters, Paul "I love Velveeta," Tom said craftily. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001601c6d28b$0c08fac0$0202a8c0 [at] HUNKACRAP> From: "Paul Guncheon" References: Subject: Re: Hullo? Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 04:36:46 -1000 Son-of-a... Aloha no ka oi. Laters, Paul "Ha!" said Tom with aloha. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 10:45:21 -0400 Subject: Re: Lucas Prince of Darkness (sorta OT) From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Yeah That's why I drive an '86 Porsche 944. She always starts when I put the key in, She's fast on the straightaway and tight in the curves, best of all she's low profile enough that I can park her on the street overnight and she's still there in the morning. -H On 9/7/06 10:16 AM, "Loren Schreiber" wrote: > My relationship with that car > was like that with my first wife: she was beautiful, high maintenance > and I really loved her--but I couldn't live with her either. -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:41:35 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Hullo? At 2:28 PM +0000 9/7/06, ladesigners [at] juno.com wrote: >Have you installed the concealed rigging points so you can hang it, >out of harm's way, over your booth at a future USITT Conference? The 1300cc VTX is too small to rig; one merely attaches several helium-filled balloons to the bike, and away it floats. Oh... Hi, Bill! -- Dave Vick rigger [at] tds.net Vikings? There ain't no Vikings here; just us honest farmers... The town was burning & the villagers were dead when we got here. They didn't need those sheep anyway. That's our story and we're sticking to it. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 10:47:11 -0400 Subject: Re: Hullo? From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: And so it begins. Damn, I've missed you. On 9/7/06 10:41 AM, "Rigger" wrote: > The 1300cc VTX is too small to rig; one merely attaches several > helium-filled balloons to the bike, and away it floats. > > Oh... Hi, Bill! ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4500335A.7080600 [at] gmail.com> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 10:57:30 -0400 From: Stephen Litterst Organization: University of Delaware Subject: Re: Hullo? References: In-Reply-To: Rigger wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > > [*peeking around corner*] > > I see some familiar names... Any room for a reformed truck driver here? > > (yes, i'm back on the call list. relenquish all hope, &c.) Welcome back, Dave! Now that you've left trucking behind, are you a rigger again? I remember you were the ME at the Wharton for a brief while. It's good to have you "around" again. Steve L. -- Stephen Litterst Technical Operations Supervisor litterst [at] udel.edu Center for the Arts 302/831-0601 University of Delaware ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Lucas Prince of Darkness (sorta OT) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:06:32 -0400 Message-ID: <007701c6d28f$356add30$6501a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > Yeah That's why I drive an '86 Porsche 944. She always starts > when I put the key in, Wouldn't it be safer if it didn't start until you *turned* the key? ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Side note: Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:09:01 -0400 Message-ID: <007801c6d28f$8d50d900$6501a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > The Ford component in Jaguars is increasing quite rapidly as > we speak. My cousin, whom I love dearly, is, to put it mildly, obsessed with material possessions, which I am not (fortunately, given my income and degree of wealth). She got truly irritated with me once when I referred to her Jag and her husband's Lincoln as, "your Fords." ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:28:23 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Hullo? At 10:47 AM -0400 9/7/06, Bill Sapsis wrote: >> The 1300cc VTX is too small to rig; one merely attaches several >> helium-filled balloons to the bike, and away it floats. >> Oh... Hi, Bill! > > And so it begins. *Reumes*, sir... Resumes, as from a sabbatical. > Damn, I've missed you. Likewise... S'nice to be home again. -- Dave Vick rigger [at] tds.net Anytime you hear businessmen debating "which policy is better for America", don't bend over. ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:31:18 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Hullo? At 10:17 AM -0400 9/7/06, Bill Sapsis wrote: >We're the LRLR now. Got our own website and everything. WWW.LRLR.org >Should have an announcement by the end of this month for, hopefully, the >next couple of years. Sha-weeeet. I'll be signing up, then. >I got me a new one too! VTX1300. It's purty. I'll bet it is... Illusion blue? -- Dave Vick rigger [at] tds.net Never wrestle a pig. You both get dirty, and the pig likes it. ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:41:24 GMT Subject: Re: Side note: Message-Id: <20060907.094145.15735.390282 [at] webmail30.lax.untd.com> It's good that she doesn't own an Aston Martin, Volvo or Land Rover! /s/ Richard _________________________ = > The Ford component in Jaguars is increasing quite rapidly as = > we speak. My cousin, whom I love dearly, is, to put it mildly, obsessed with = material possessions, which I am not (fortunately, given my income = and degree of wealth). She got truly irritated with me once when I = referred to her Jag and her husband's Lincoln as, "your Fords." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:44:11 -0400 From: Ian Schmidt Subject: Re: Hullo? In-reply-to: Message-id: <45004C5B.5030506 [at] gmu.edu> Organization: George Mason University References: Rigger wrote: Spiffy! Tuning up the new-to-me 2-wheeler today. When's the next LBLR? What two wheeler is this? I personally try to not commute or drive anything else unless it's a truck and trailer to a track. Ian -- Ian Schmidt Master Electrician Center for the Arts George Mason University ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3rq44YCCuEAFFwrw [at] ntlworld.com> Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:40:34 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: Hullo? References: In-Reply-To: In message , Rigger writes >I thought I might eventually end up driving for Janco or Clark Transfer >or Upstaging or Stage Call or &c... Couldn't do it. > > >And so I'm back, continuing my never-ending quest to make the world a >little more surreal every day. Besides... Event haulage... Quite heavy work when you get to the destination. I know there are supposed to be roadies that do that but.... -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <87Q6cyCrvEAFFwKx [at] ntlworld.com> Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:42:19 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: Hullo? References: In-Reply-To: In message , Rigger writes >>Good to see you're still hanging about. >>(So have you been truckin'?) > >Sixteen months, 170,000+ miles; from Manistee, Michigan to Savannah, >Georgia; from Zanesville, Ohio to Carroll, Iowa, and pretty much all >points in between... For some reason I get this image of you hanging out a truck window giving the finger and engaging in loud verbosity. :) -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:45:44 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: Lucas Prince of Darkness (sorta OT) References: In-Reply-To: In message , Jeffrey E. Salzberg writes >> Yeah That's why I drive an '86 Porsche 944. She always starts >> when I put the key in, > >Wouldn't it be safer if it didn't start until you *turned* the key? It gets worse... That was the DOOR key. -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:48:01 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: PLASA. References: In-Reply-To: In message , Nigel Worsley writes >I will be there, haven't sorted out which day yet. Or more to the >point, which pub! No time for pub... Too many lights... Must plan ahead.... I'm not sure what I'll be wearing on the day so look out for a really big guy with glasses and a modestly long "roadie" style beard. -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1947.205.215.253.116.1157647878.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 09:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: color blind cue lights From: "Bill Nelson" > nameless. During renovation of one of the buildings, someone > discovered that the restroom in the ballet rehearsal room was not > handicapped accessible. After a big public to-do the administration > and the contractor agreed to make the restroom accessible. This > involved moving two walls and relocating the door to the main hallway. > The money that was slated for a new set of portable dance barres went > to the toilet. Of course the very politically Correct complainer > never brought up the fact that the rehearsal room in question was > accessible only by climbing two flights of narrow stairs. You're lucky. If they had complained that the rehearsal room was not accessible, the administration might have been bullied into installing an elevator - for wheelchair-bound ballet dancers. Bill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:12:29 -0400 Subject: Re: Lucas Prince of Darkness (sorta OT) From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Any key in a storm.... On 9/7/06 12:45 PM, "Clive Mitchell" wrote: > > It gets worse... That was the DOOR key. -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ From: JDruc3737 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <3b2.970e6e3.3231af45 [at] aol.com> Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:22:13 EDT Subject: Re: Hullo? Welcome back, you've been missed. Jeff I see some familiar names... Any room for a reformed truck driver here? (yes, i'm back on the call list. relenquish all hope, &c.) -- Dave Vick Jeffrey Drucker Production Manager Bard College phone 845-758-7956 fax 845-758-7925 email drucker [at] bard.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2013.205.215.253.123.1157650278.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: color blind cue lights From: "Bill Nelson" > Wheelchairs in the catwalks. Uhm, yeah... When they built the new high school here in Corvallis, that is exactly what they did. There is elevator access to the light bridges over the house and the catwalks are wide enough for a wheelchair. Bill ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:47:51 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: color blind cue lights At 10:31 AM -0700 9/7/06, Bill Nelson wrote: >> Wheelchairs in the catwalks. Uhm, yeah... > > When they built the new high school here in Corvallis, that is exactly > what they did. There is elevator access to the light bridges over the > house and the catwalks are wide enough for a wheelchair. Y'know, ISTR that we were discussing this when I left. [*insert "wheelchairs on the grid" rant here*] -- Dave Vick rigger [at] tds.net Some say the glass is half empty. Some say the glass is half full. I say the glass is too big. ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:49:59 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Hullo? At 12:44 PM -0400 9/7/06, Ian Schmidt wrote: >>Spiffy! Tuning up the new-to-me 2-wheeler today. When's >>the next LBLR? > >What two wheeler is this? '92 Aspencade, rescued from an insurance company and lovingly rebuilt. >I personally try to not commute or drive anything else >unless it's a truck and trailer to a track. You are wise and just. -- Dave Vick rigger [at] tds.net "Please Sir", said Alice to the Mad Hatter in a quiet voice, "I should like to purchase a handgun while it is still legal." ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:51:09 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Hullo? At 5:42 PM +0100 9/7/06, Clive Mitchell wrote: >For some reason I get this image of you hanging out a truck >window giving the finger and engaging in loud verbosity. :) Naaaah... I restrained myself to screaming at my satellite radio receiver. -- Dave Vick rigger [at] tds.net Since 1983, more than 30 people have been killed in Post Offices. Ya wanna know why? Because the price of postage keeps changing. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2025.205.215.253.123.1157651510.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:51:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: color blind cue lights From: "Bill Nelson" > What disabled people REALLY need is their own community where they can > work at specially designed workstations to make them productive members > of society once again. Then maybe we'll make room for them in theatres > and studios once they've earned the right. Nice tongue in cheek rant. What we need to do is encourage disabled people to do whatever tasks they can manage backstage or on stage. That means making the areas accessible and being willing learn from the handicapped themselves what they can, and cannot, do. For example: One of the houses where I do tech has a rope/sandbag fly system. When pipe are to fly in/out during the show, I always put stoppers on the lines so that the trim is the same every time. A person in a wheelchair with reasonable arm strength could easily operate those lines. Unfortunately, there is a different impediment. There is only about 3 feet of space between the off-stage side of the legs and the fly rail so it can get very crowded there with props and set pieces. If a person in a wheelchair was to work there, there would not be room for anyone else - or any props etc. Bill ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060907111552.00c4f420 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 11:15:52 From: CB Subject: Re: Side note: >Lucas shouldn't ever pose a real problem, cause you'll never get the >S.U. Carburettors suitably balanced to be able to drive the damn thing >anyhow! Which is what I was doing on my best friend's Mom's MG when I discovered the elctrical anomoly. I also discovered that the B-series 14 engine design had taken into account that the carb mounting bolts were bound to work themselves free, and there was an upturned edge right below the carb to catch them. Once the carbs were firmly attached to the rest of the automobile, it did run much more smoothly... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060907111921.00c4f420 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 11:19:21 From: CB Subject: Re: color blind cue lights > red one goes on top, the green in the >>middle, >>and blue on the bottom. > >No I'm sorry. I believe that violates a Color Kinetic patent. No, I'm sure it doesn't, as I plaigerized it from the standard RGB setup on component video kit the world 'round.. ; > Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <015701c6d2ad$03210a70$0501a8c0 [at] office1> From: "Ian Cunningham" References: Subject: Re: PLASA. Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 19:39:53 +0100 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clive Mitchell" > Who's going to PLASA in the UK this year? > > I should be there on 12th and 13th. I'm only down on the Sunday - booked into the EICC Monday-Thursday. Getting the Sleeper down on Friday night, pottering around on Saturday then the Selecon dinner on Saturday night. I'll be the one slightly out of focus and fuzzy-edged on Sunday morning. If anyone's looking for accomodation I can recomend http://www.hotels-london.co.uk/ - got a room in a rather nice hotel at less than half of rack-rate. Ian Cunningham ------------------------------ Subject: RE: color blind cue lights Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:43:21 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: The same is true of South Coast Rep's newer facilities. Makes access easier for all concerned, not just the handicapped. Steve Rees=20 -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Bill Nelson Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 1:31 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: color blind cue lights For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- > Wheelchairs in the catwalks. Uhm, yeah... When they built the new high school here in Corvallis, that is exactly what they did. There is elevator access to the light bridges over the house and the catwalks are wide enough for a wheelchair. Bill ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060907113415.00c4f420 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 11:34:15 From: CB Subject: Re: color blind cue lights > There is no reason why they can't take >part in the general activities. Yes, Frank, there is. I believe in and angry and all-powerful God. When God takes away someone's ability to do something, I'm sure that He has a really good reason. Random acts of cruelty aren't His style. He tends to work in Mystrious Ways, but He always has a reason for His punishments. For us to take on teh Great Being and attampt to 'correct' what He has wrought is a sin. Let those afflicted by His wrath be left to their punishments. (Now, that had to be wierd enough for even Frank to understand that we weren't being completely serious...) Professionally, all my dealings with the disabled have been with those that have reached thier disability somewhat later in life, through some misadventure or another. Mostly x-gamers and such, but with a afairly large portion being those that just got old and brittle. They tend to divide themselves really early on into two camps. One camp starts to understand their limits, and wants to work towards doing what they can to get back into their old life, and do as much as they can on their own; the other wants to change the world to fit their new 'unfairness'. The latter group tend to be much smaller by quite a bit, and I think their selfishness tends to come from their bitterness at being saddled with the disability. A touch of guilt and self loathing always seems to accompany this attitude as well. These folk are the minority, but most often heard. They are the ones that shut down theatres, small businesses, individual run stores, etc. My dealings with those that have disabilities since birth have been that they share the former groups enthusiasm for DIY, although that has been in a non-professional environment. I've worked with quads and paras, those that have lost limbs, sight, hearing, and have always been amazed at the large majority of them that want to fit in as well as they can, understand that that isn't always possible, and prefer to overcome their disability's challenges as opposed to having the world around them made 'disabledly accessable'. Clive and I may be silly about the whole thing, but there is an undercurrent of seriousness that comes from experience and first-hand knowledge. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060907113647.00c4f420 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 11:36:47 From: CB Subject: Hullo? >I see some familiar names... Any room for a reformed truck driver here? YAAAAAAAAY! Dave! I missed you so much! Frank has returned, and been absolutley Frank, and I've been all alone. Welcome back! Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ From: Subject: Moving Heads : MAC 500'S MAC 600'S Message-Id: <20060907133719.CFM42553 [at] mail.uisd.net> Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:37:19 -0500 (CDT) Alright people, I would greatly appreciate your help. The district is looking into investing in some moving heads (Thank Goodness). The problem is I was trained only in conventional lighting (Source 4's, Fresnels, Borderstips, Cyc Lights, Scoops) and I don't have much experience with moving heads. I would like to see if you have worked with these fixtures before, or recommend something else...Problems you have encountered with these fixtures. Do they have good tech support if I run into problems? We would mainly use these instruments for concert lighting here at the theater, because they are not allowed for the competition One-Act Plays. Thanks in advance, Michael ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:52:15 GMT Subject: Re: color blind cue lights Message-Id: <20060907.115218.833.403721 [at] webmail34.lax.untd.com> If people would just follow the color code indicating the values of = resistors and capacitors, without worrying about Gold or Silver bands = indicating multipliers or tolerance, life would be so much easier. = [Black, Brown, Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Violet, Grey, White] /s/ Richard __________________________________________ > red one goes on top, the green in the = >>middle,and blue on the bottom. > >No I'm sorry. I believe that violates a Color Kinetic patent. = No, I'm sure it doesn't, as I plaigerized it from the standard RGB = setup on component video kit the world 'round.. ; > Chris "Chris" Babbie ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Moving Heads : MAC 500'S MAC 600'S Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:53:10 -0700 Message-ID: <555928311F8B2943B65FC7197942C3B70538C2D8 [at] es1.bsdnet.wednet.edu> From: "Storms, Randy" Hi Michael - What sort of controller do you plan to use? Randy Storms rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of macarrillo [at] uisd.net Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:37 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Moving Heads : MAC 500'S MAC 600'S For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Alright people,=20 I would greatly appreciate your help. The district is looking into = investing in some moving heads (Thank Goodness). The problem is I was = trained only in conventional lighting (Source 4's, Fresnels, = Borderstips, Cyc Lights, Scoops) and I don't have much experience with = moving heads. I would like to see if you have worked with these fixtures = before, or recommend something else...Problems you have encountered with = these fixtures. Do they have good tech support if I run into problems? = We would mainly use these instruments for concert lighting here at the = theater, because they are not allowed for the competition One-Act Plays. Thanks in advance, Michael =20 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:02:49 -0500 (CDT) From: stagecraft [at] frederickfrank.com Subject: Hullo's Quotes Message-ID: On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Rigger wrote: > Dave Vick > IATSE #274 > Carpe Per Diem and > I'm happier than a tattoo on a super-model and > Anytime you hear businessmen debating "which > policy is better for America", don't bend over. and > Never wrestle a pig. > You both get dirty, and the pig likes it. and > Some say the glass is half empty. > Some say the glass is half full. > I say the glass is too big. and > "Please Sir", said Alice to the Mad Hatter in a quiet voice, > "I should like to purchase a handgun while it is still legal." Ok, I gotta ask, where'd you get the database of great quotes? And what program do you use to attach 'em to your emails? Are they all of this ilk? Latr, Rick -- ---------------------- freelance technician (entertainment industry) boston, ma frederick [at] frederickfrank.com ------------------------------ From: Subject: Re: Moving Heads : MAC 500'S MAC 600'S Message-Id: <20060907135757.CFM43290 [at] mail.uisd.net> Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:57:57 -0500 (CDT) I don't know...Maybe Hog 1000. I currently have an ETC Express 48/96 console..., but we do have a second DMX universe...which isn't being used by anything. What kind of controller would you recommend? I have seen some ppl with thier controller on a laptop computer. And with the design program being able to control the moving heads... I didn't get to ask the guy what kinda program he was using though... -Michael ------------------------------ Message-ID: <9014852.1157656487236.JavaMail.root [at] mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:14:47 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: "Fred Schoening, Jr." Reply-To: "Fred Schoening, Jr." Subject: Re: color blind cue lights ...which is why Frank is here to brighten your day, Chris! ;) "Big Fred" Schoening Technical Director, Dallas Theater Center Dallas, Texas, USA -----Original Message----- >From: CB > >Random acts of cruelty aren't His style. He tends to >work in Mystrious Ways, but He always has a reason for His punishments. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 15:29:57 -0400 Subject: Re: Moving Heads : MAC 500'S MAC 600'S From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: The Mac500's are robust and useful. What is your throw distance? They may not be bright enough if you are shooting from FOH and against regular front washes. What kind of concerts? If noise is an issue I'd suggest VL1000 arc's; nice and quiet. But you lose some stuff. The optics are great though. Regarding a controller, if it's your house and your console and you have time to set it up and play with it. The ETC is fine for most shows. Joe's Pub at the Publick theater is run by a guy named Kevin Hardy. He controls about 12 movers on an ETC express. All in groups and he has cheat sheets all over the face of the board. But it's his rig and he knows it well. OTOH if you have $$ and you think you'll be buying more ML's take a look at the new ETC consoles and the new Strand line. (barbie's first light board) they are both rumored to be more mover friendly. -herrick "who can't believe he just recommended a Strand console for something" -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ From: "Jon Lagerquist" Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:22:52 -0700 Subject: Re: color blind cue lights Reply-to: jon [at] lagerquist.com Message-ID: <45000F1C.9265.667921A [at] jon.lagerquist.com> In-reply-to: References: There is elevator access to the cats in the new space, as well as the storage and amp spaces that are sort of the same level. But I would bet it would still be a trick to focus a unit.... However it does make a big dent in the work of getting truss onto the roof.... > The same is true of South Coast Rep's newer facilities. Makes access > easier for all concerned, not just the handicapped. Steve Rees > > When they built the new high school here in Corvallis, that is exactly > what they did. There is elevator access to the light bridges over the > house and the catwalks are wide enough for a wheelchair. Jon Lagerquist Technical Director [at] South Coast Repertory Costa Mesa, CA ------------------------------ Message-Id: <200609071928.k87JSVtt002474 [at] ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com> From: "Byron Lovelace" Subject: sound mixer to follow cues Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:28:20 -0500 In-Reply-To: I'm looking for a sound console that I can automate to follow the lighting console's cuelist, I guess using midi to trigger a sequence of snapshots. How would I go about this? What set-up is needed? What mixers could you recommend that could do this? Byron Lovelace Technical Director / Facilities Manager Azalee Marshall Cultural Activities Center 3011 North 3rd Street, Temple, TX 76501 off: 254-773-9926 x 21 cell: 254-913-8558 email: lovelace [at] hot.rr.com email: technical [at] cacARTS.org http://www.cacARTS.org http:/cacARTS.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <87e6786e0609071230w66410e5bv530b9516d5df8534 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:30:51 -0500 From: "John Penisten" Subject: Re: Moving Heads : MAC 500'S MAC 600'S In-Reply-To: References: You might look at upgrading your Express to Emphasis. It will be a familiar interface and add a fair amount of moving light functionality. Still not as good as a Hog for the movers, but much friendlier for the conventionals. It will also give you the direct interface to WYSIWYG that you also mentioned in your original post and with Remote Virtual Facepanel you can run your rig off you laptop. Another option to look at is the Congo Jr. A very well thought out board that handles movers and conventionals seamlessly. My .02, John On 9/7/06, macarrillo [at] uisd.net wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I don't know...Maybe Hog 1000. > > I currently have an ETC Express 48/96 console..., but we do have a second DMX universe...which isn't being used by anything. > > What kind of controller would you recommend? I have seen some ppl with thier controller on a laptop computer. And with the design program being able to control the moving heads... I didn't get to ask the guy what kinda program he was using though... > > -Michael > ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #940 *****************************