Return-Path: X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/Clamd http://raeinternet.com/mpp X-Scanned-By: This message was scanned by MPP Lite Edition (www.messagepartners.com)! X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 34746649; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 03:02:17 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=ADVANCE_FEE_1,AWL, NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS,SARE_SPEC_REPLICA_OBFU autolearn=no version=3.1.5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on localhost X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #946 Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 03:01:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #946 1. Re: Rederworks 12 help! by Kevin Lee Allen 2. Re: Renderworks 12 help! by "C. Dopher" 3. Re: Renderworks 12 help! by "Jason Cowperthwaite" 4. Re: Rederworks 12 help! by "Jason Cowperthwaite" 5. Re: Structural design question by "Peter Scheu" 6. Re: Rederworks 12 help! by Kevin Lee Allen 7. Re: Don't forget to remember by 8. Boot guard by BKHAIN [at] aol.com 9. Re: Boot guard by "Scott Parker" 10. Re: POPfile email filter: outstanding! by "Nathan Kahn" 11. Re: Boot guard by "Mike Katz" 12. Re: [user_group] Re: POPfile email filter: outstanding! by "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" 13. Re: Herrick's Test by Greg Williams 14. Re: Herrick's Test by Rigger 15. Re: Hullo's Quotes by MissWisc [at] aol.com 16. OT Domain Mail filters WAS Re: POPfile email filter by "Idaho Scenic & Rigging" 17. Re: Hullo's Quotes by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 18. Re: Hullo's Quotes by Rigger 19. Re: Hullo's Quotes by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 20. Re: Hullo's Quotes - Scottish Rite Temple / Mobile AL by KEITH ARSENAULT 21. Re: Lighting question by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 22. Re: Hullo's Quotes by Rigger 23. Re: disabled by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 24. Re: disabled by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 25. Re: Don't forget to remember by "Steve McBee" 26. Re: Don't forget to remember by Herrick Goldman 27. Re: OT Domain Mail filters WAS Re: POPfile email filter by "Nathan Kahn" 28. Re: disabled by "Nigel Worsley" 29. Re: OT Domain Mail filters WAS Re: POPfile email filter by Pat Kight 30. Re: Don't forget to remember by "Steve McBee" 31. Re: Handicapped access by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 32. Re: cue lights by Chip Wood 33. Re: disabled by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 34. Re: OT Domain Mail filters WAS Re: POPfile email filter by "Jonathan Wills" 35. Re: OT Domain Mail filters WAS Re: POPfile email filter by Jerry Durand 36. Re: disabled by June Abernathy 37. Re: OT Domain Mail filters WAS Re: POPfile email filter by "Occy" 38. Re: disabled by "Jon Ares" 39. Camera Platform/Riser by "Alf Sauve" 40. Re: OT Domain Mail filters WAS Re: POPfile email filter by Rigger 41. opera australia by "Scott Price" 42. Re: Camera Platform/Riser by James Feinberg 43. Re: Camera Platform/Riser by "Occy" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 06:17:23 -0400 From: Kevin Lee Allen Subject: Re: Rederworks 12 help! In-reply-to: Message-id: <61E8CDC5-85C0-49C2-AD2F-BD96E78B4499 [at] klad.com> References:

It is my experience that not all of the stock symbols render 'light' but I am sure that I have I have used all of the Source 4 symbols. How large is the file? Cn it be e-mailed or FTP'd? On Sep 10, 2006, at 8:59 PM, Jason Cowperthwaite wrote: > The instruments in question are a Altman 6x9 and a source4 50-degree. > Both are, as far as I remember, the stock symbols provided with the > program. ----- Kevin Lee Allen Architect of Dreams http://www.klad.com 973.744.6352.voice 201.280.3841.mobile klad [at] klad.com ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <633174AB-5D7E-40DC-ABA2-7238DB1E71F5 [at] dopher.com> From: "C. Dopher" Subject: Re: Renderworks 12 help! Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 07:43:34 -0400 Jason wrote: > I create a lighting instrument with an assigned gobo, and have set up > the custom renderworks settings exactly as the manual asks for, but > when I render with these settings, i get nothing. Rendering with > "Renderworks w/ shadows" or any other Renderworks rendering mode gets > me the light, but with no pattern, just the open beam. > > The lighting instrument, focus point and all scenery are all on the > same layer. I am using vectorworks 12.0.1 on a windows XP machine. What do you mean by assigned gobo? Did you simply type it in the gobo1 field, or did you actually add the gobo texture with the Get Resource button in the Edit dialogue box from with the OIP? Also, do you have Light On checked? Or just Dram Beam? You have a focus point assigned,right? Finally, is your light at a substantial enough elevation, relative to the focus point, to render (shallow angles won't render - a problem with the program I hope gets fixed in later generations). Cris Dopher ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3eb8da960609110501j38ae9306lc488c5a44288dad [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 08:01:54 -0400 From: "Jason Cowperthwaite" Subject: Re: Renderworks 12 help! In-Reply-To: References:

Hi Chris, The "Assigned" gobo was selected w/ the Get resource button. "Light On" is checked and the unit is at full. Draw Beam is not checked. The lights are pointed straight down on the focus points, and somewhere between 5 and 11 feet above them. I may be at the point where I need to give Nemetschek a call... hmm... though I only live 20 minutes from the US headquarters... in person tech support? Thanks, Jason On 9/11/06, C. Dopher wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Jason wrote: > > > I create a lighting instrument with an assigned gobo, and have set up > > the custom renderworks settings exactly as the manual asks for, but > > when I render with these settings, i get nothing. Rendering with > > "Renderworks w/ shadows" or any other Renderworks rendering mode gets > > me the light, but with no pattern, just the open beam. > > > > The lighting instrument, focus point and all scenery are all on the > > same layer. I am using vectorworks 12.0.1 on a windows XP machine. > > What do you mean by assigned gobo? Did you simply type it in the > gobo1 field, or did you actually add the gobo texture with the Get > Resource button in the Edit dialogue box from with the OIP? Also, do > you have Light On checked? Or just Dram Beam? You have a focus > point assigned,right? Finally, is your light at a substantial enough > elevation, relative to the focus point, to render (shallow angles > won't render - a problem with the program I hope gets fixed in later > generations). > > Cris Dopher > > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3eb8da960609110503o4c36cb27od1468b2d4b7810ab [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 08:03:14 -0400 From: "Jason Cowperthwaite" Subject: Re: Rederworks 12 help! In-Reply-To: References:

Kevin, The file is 56.6k. I would be happy to send you the file if you want to give it a looksee. Thanks! Jason On 9/11/06, Kevin Lee Allen wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > It is my experience that not all of the stock symbols render 'light' > but I am sure that I have I have used all of the Source 4 symbols. > > How large is the file? Cn it be e-mailed or FTP'd? > > > > > On Sep 10, 2006, at 8:59 PM, Jason Cowperthwaite wrote: > > > The instruments in question are a Altman 6x9 and a source4 50-degree. > > Both are, as far as I remember, the stock symbols provided with the > > program. > > > ----- > Kevin Lee Allen > Architect of Dreams > http://www.klad.com > 973.744.6352.voice > 201.280.3841.mobile > klad [at] klad.com > > > > ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Peter Scheu" Subject: RE: Structural design question Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 08:31:49 -0400 Organization: Scheu Consulting Services, Inc. Message-ID: In-reply-to: This was the best answer I saw from a structural engineer recently: >The minimum distance from the edge of any plate steel material >is dependent on the bolt size you intend to install in the hole. It >also depends on the condition of the edge of the plate steel. Pieces >that are sheared or cut away from other plates have a higher edge >distance from the center of the hole to the edge of the plate than >edges that are at rolled edges of shapes or rolled plates. >The Manual of Steel Construction 9th edition as published by the >American Institute of Steel Construction has a table for minimum >edge distances to the center of a "standard holes." A standard hole >is one in which the hole diameter is 1/8" larger than the nominal >size of the bolt. >For 1/2" bolts - 7/8" minimum edge distance from center of hole >for 5/8" bolts - 1 1/8" MED >for 3/4" bolts - 1 1/4" MED >for 7/8" bolts - 1 1/2" MED >fpr 1" bolts - 2" MED Hope this helps. Peter Scheu Scheu Consulting Services, Inc. Syracuse, NY www.scheuconsulting.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 08:32:16 -0400 From: Kevin Lee Allen Subject: Re: Rederworks 12 help! In-reply-to: Message-id: References:

please On Sep 11, 2006, at 8:03 AM, Jason Cowperthwaite wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see stagecraft.theprices.net/> > --------------------------------------------------- > > Kevin, > > The file is 56.6k. I would be happy to send you the file if you want > to give it a looksee. ----- Kevin Lee Allen Architect of Dreams http://www.klad.com 973.744.6352.voice 201.280.3841.mobile klad [at] klad.com ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Don't forget to remember Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 08:33:58 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: Herrick, et al Hear, Hear. Did that last week in the aftermath of the death of a NY State Police officer at the hands of the cowardly Ralph "Bucky" Phillips who had run amok in our part of the state for five months. Phillips was finally captured late last week. For those unfamiliar with this ordeal, Phillips is accused, among other things, of shooting three State Police officers - two in the back from ambush. The funeral of one of the officers who died of his injuries is tomorrow. Steve Rees SUNY-Fredonia=20 -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Herrick Goldman Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 12:44 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Don't forget to remember For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Hey folks. Sometime in the next 36 hours, walk by your local Police, Fire, EMS station and shake a hand and tell them "thank you". -Herrick -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ From: BKHAIN [at] aol.com Message-ID: <32a.bc15d25.3236b907 [at] aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 09:05:11 EDT Subject: Boot guard Hi all, I bought some of this stuff for my theater work boots so I wouldn't wear out the toes. www.kgsbootguard.com Seems like a good idea so I thought I'd share it with the list. Anyone used it before? It's kinda like the 'rhino lining' for pick up truck boxes...the only thing I wonder is if it will scrape paint off a finished set? And I couldn't get the top of the can open...was pulling the seams apart. Finally just cut the bottom of the can off. Ben Hain ------------------------------ Message-ID: <90d9c9980609110638y85d7a71g5f83272001722333 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 09:38:35 -0400 From: "Scott Parker" Subject: Re: Boot guard In-Reply-To: References: My question: The photos show a nice clean looking brush in the after pics. Is this stuff clear? And, if so, what's it really doing to the leather? > > www.kgsbootguard.com > > Ben Hain > -- Thanks and take care, Scott Scott C. Parker Professor/Technical Director Dept. of Performing Arts Dyson College of Arts and Sciences [at] Pace University Office/shipping: 41 Park Row, 1205F Mailing: 1 Pace Plaza New York, NY 10038 212-346-1423 Fax: 914-989-8425 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <77fad3270609110709g53f99127na1c7f094e91f7b2d [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 10:09:10 -0400 From: "Nathan Kahn" Subject: Re: POPfile email filter: outstanding! In-Reply-To: References: > It is truly fantastic! Although it took some perseverance to get through 3 > weeks of training the program, it has not made an error in the past 10 days. > I've got it sorting email for two different companies, several user groups, > faxes (which I receive as email), other, and spam. For those who might choose not to try it based on this statement, I'd just like to add that it only takes a few days to train if you simply want it to differentiate spam from non-spam. Jim - what email program do you use to stay organized with all these folders of mail? I use Eudora and I'm relatively satisfied, but always looking for something better :-) Nathan -- Look Solutions USA, Ltd. Toll-Free: 1-800-426-4189 Email: usa [at] looksolutions.com Web: www.looksolutionsusa.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <7cd95e180609110735o6982bc1cx2baae31008d64a83 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 10:35:58 -0400 From: "Mike Katz" Subject: Re: Boot guard In-Reply-To: References:

Hey scott, I think Its a positive negative thin. the black stuff covering the stiching is the material. There is nothing on the leather that is tan. Mike On 9/11/06, Scott Parker wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > My question: The photos show a nice clean looking brush in the after > pics. Is this stuff clear? And, if so, what's it really doing to the ------------------------------ From: "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" Subject: RE: [user_group] Re: POPfile email filter: outstanding! Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 10:48:34 -0400 Message-ID: <005501c6d5b1$5b833150$7f9bfea9 [at] p3m866> In-Reply-To: > Jim - what email program do you use to stay organized with > all these folders of mail? I use Eudora and I'm relatively > satisfied, but always looking for something better :-) Nathan, I use MS Outlook 2003 (NOT Outlook Express) on WinXP. It's been rock solid for me. And the integrated Calendar, Contacts, Tasks, and the date/time reminders make Outlook my perfect software secretary. Everything (data for all of the above) saves to a single file that's easy to back-up, and move between machines. I never discover, away from home, that I don't have my address book, or my calendar, or whatever. That's a big plus for me. Despite all the MS jabbing that goes on, I have no complaints with Office or WinXP. Jim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 10:46:42 -0400 From: Greg Williams Subject: Re: Herrick's Test In-reply-to: Message-id: References: On Sep 10, 2006, at 10:58 PM, Herrick Goldman wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see stagecraft.theprices.net/> > --------------------------------------------------- > > And the one step too far award goes to..... > > BIG Clive! > And this surprised anyone? Hi Dave! Welcome back! -=Greg Williams=- Production Manager Valborg Theatre, Appalachian State University www.LRLR.org ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 11:00:03 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Herrick's Test At 10:46 AM -0400 9/11/06, Greg Williams wrote: >> And the one step too far award goes to..... >> BIG Clive! > >And this surprised anyone? Only that it took as long to go there as it did... >Hi Dave! Welcome back! Hi Greg! S'nice to be home again! -- Dave Vick rigger [at] tds.net What exactly is "viewer discretion"? If viewers had any discretion, most TV shows wouldn't be on the air. ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <4bc.85ed78c.3236e473 [at] aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 12:10:27 EDT Subject: Re: Hullo's Quotes rigger [at] tds.net writes: << Yeah, sex and politics are one thing, but if you want to talk about Freemasonry, I'm not going to do so on-list. >> Oh Dave! Please forgive me if I've offended. That was certainly NOT my intent. From what little I've experienced personally in assisting with officer installations, Freemasonry and it's related organizations uses "theatre" as a teaching tool extremely well. The talents of our list members and the teachings of Freemasonry would be a good match, IMHO. Kristi ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002601c6d5bf$29076c60$6401a8c0 [at] amd2200> From: "Idaho Scenic & Rigging" References:

Subject: OT Domain Mail filters WAS Re: POPfile email filter Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 10:27:22 -0600 Having missed a few messages in the last month This caught my attention. I'm about to do my domain startup and knowing there are several of you domain owners out there... I was wondering how you deal with junk and spamming to your domain. Good working models, not "buy ours it's better ads" My Earthlink will be going by the wayside and my email accounts will be originating from my new domain. I'm interested in this "truly fantastic" product, too I really can't relate this to theater technology ( I thought about it but really had to stretch) (and, I have no cheerleader stories... sigh) so please reply off-list Rob't idahoscenic [at] earthlink.net stageshirt [at] earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Re: POPfile email filter: outstanding! > > > It is truly fantastic! Although it took some perseverance to get through 3 > > weeks of training the program, it has not made an error in the past 10 days. > > I've got it sorting email for two different companies, several user groups, > > faxes (which I receive as email), other, and spam. > > For those who might choose not to try it based on this statement, I'd > just like to add that it only takes a few days to train if you simply > want it to differentiate spam from non-spam. > > Jim - what email program do you use to stay organized with all these > folders of mail? I use Eudora and I'm relatively satisfied, but > always looking for something better :-) > ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Hullo's Quotes Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 12:33:20 -0400 Message-ID: <00b601c6d5c0$03a54e00$6501a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > From what little I've experienced personally in > assisting with officer > installations, Freemasonry and it's related organizations > uses "theatre" as a > teaching tool extremely well. My dad could never understand why I was not more interested in Freemasonry, because, after all, "It's very theatrical." Of course, he never considered theatre to be a "real" job, so he didn't understand that while theatrical activities might be a welcome diversion to others, to me it was a lot like my work day. ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 12:36:01 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Hullo's Quotes At 12:10 PM -0400 9/11/06, MissWisc [at] aol.com wrote: >> Yeah, sex and politics are one thing, but if you want to talk about >> Freemasonry, I'm not going to do so on-list. > > Oh Dave! Please forgive me if I've offended. That was certainly NOT my > intent. From what little I've experienced personally in assisting with > officer installations, Freemasonry and it's related organizations uses > "theatre" as a teaching tool extremely well. The talents of our list > members and the teachings of Freemasonry would be a good match, IMHO. No offense taken. There are just some things that I consider private. (yeah, I know... Sounds strange coming from me, doesn't it.) -- Dave Vick rigger [at] tds.net People love to admit that they have bad handwriting, or that they're not good at math. They will readily admit to being awkward - "I'm such a klutz." But they will _never_ admit to having a poor sense of humor or to being a bad driver. ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Hullo's Quotes Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 12:39:14 -0400 Message-ID: <00b801c6d5c0$d6a2fa00$6501a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > But they will _never_ admit to having a poor sense > of humor That's not funny! ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References:

Message-Id: <6C25403F-A3D7-429D-8E9E-13F808BB305A [at] aol.com> From: KEITH ARSENAULT Subject: Re: Hullo's Quotes - Scottish Rite Temple / Mobile AL Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 12:43:59 -0400 if any one is interested in seeing a photo of the SCOTTISH RITE TEMPLE of MOBILE, AL built in 1921 and is a "replica" of the Temple of Karnak, , , the real "Karnak" not the Johnny Carson version contact me off list, i've been in and around a number of Masonic Buildings, , this is one of the most unusual , actually THE most unusual there are "ceremonial" rooms on the top floor, , , with three levels of risers facing each other across long narrow rooms, , I don't have photos of those, , , but will on my next trip there, i am working with a promoter / developer who are turning it into a concert club, , , opens with Marcia Ball later this month On Sep 11, 2006, at 12:36 PM, Rigger wrote: >> Yeah, sex and politics are one thing, but if you want to talk about >> Freemasonry, I'm not going to do so on-list. > > Oh Dave! Please forgive me if I've offended. That was certainly > NOT my > intent. From what little I've experienced personally in assisting > with > officer installations, Freemasonry and it's related organizations > uses > "theatre" as a teaching tool extremely well. The talents of our list > members and the teachings of Freemasonry would be a good match, > IMHO. No offense taken. There are just some things that I consider private. (yeah, I know... Sounds strange coming from me, doesn't it.) Keith L Arsenault Tampa, Florida 813 831 3465 office 813 205 0893 cellular iaeg [at] aol.com ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <54f.6ae3131.3236eeed [at] aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 12:55:09 EDT Subject: Re: Lighting question In a message dated 08/09/06 02:50:49 GMT Daylight Time, david [at] audiovisualdevices.com.au writes: > I did a fireplace effect using only one gelled PAR30 last year. To get > the flickering effect I setup a single channel chase with each step just > being a different level but limited from about 30-60% IIRC. Looked > great. Several people thought we had a real fireplace there. (it was > viewed from the side) I'm sure a similar flicker effect would work well > for a TV. Maybe with a pale blue colour? In principle, that's right. TV white is 6,400K or so. You need to consider the show that is notionally being watched, though, when it comes to thinking about the chase. A pop show will be different from the news, and may need more colours. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 13:01:24 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Hullo's Quotes At 12:39 PM -0400 9/11/06, Jeffrey E. Salzberg wrote: >> But they will _never_ admit to having a poor sense >> of humor > > That's not funny! QED -- Dave Vick rigger [at] tds.net "There comes a time when one should quit drinking and gracefully pass out." --Jack Tollett ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <42f.57efe480.3236f398 [at] aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 13:15:04 EDT Subject: Re: disabled In a message dated 09/09/06 06:06:32 GMT Daylight Time, MissWisc [at] aol.com writes: > SO... Thanks to the injury I got in June (am in the midst of 6 intensive > weeks of PT with an additional 3-6 months predicted by the therapist until > I am > "normal") I have official "handicapped" status from the state complete with > > hanging tag so I can park in the blue stalls. Can't wait to get back to > work > and use MY elevator! :) Deep sympathy. I don't know what happened to you, but I do know that they take time. I broke my left arm badly up near the shoulder before last Christmas, and now wear a large metal plate and its fixings in it. Even now, I don't have full mobility or strength in it. My surgeon tells me that, thanks to the damage done at the time of the fracture, and the damage done under surgery, I may never get them back, in spite of physiotherapy. I'm still doing damned exercises, though. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <46c.7c0b9a80.3236f832 [at] aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 13:34:42 EDT Subject: Re: disabled In a message dated 09/09/06 11:57:48 GMT Daylight Time, deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com writes: > We had a drop-kerb put at the main entrance, added disabled toilet > facilities on the ground floor, and several other measures, BUT we have been > unable to entertain the installation of a lift to the first floor > (meeting/dressing rooms) due lack of useable space. Our auditorium is > stepped, but because of space restrictions again, we cannot install ramps or > any lifting device to pick up patrons to the first step (on which the whole > row of seats has been removed to accommodate wheelchairs). However, the VAST > majority of wheelchair customers are happy to be lifted by FoH staff if > possible or can maybe get out of the chair long enough to be helped up into > a normal seat. A not-to-be-overlooked problem is that of how to evacuate disabled patrons in an emergency. When the audience is coming in, lifts and beefy FOH staff will work. We are fortunate, as our foyer and main entrances are one floor up, as are our wheelchair spaces, and we have ramps and lifts. Also, most of those who need them are courteous enough to arrive early. A 'panic' evacuation is a different story. Lifts are out, and the FOH staff have other things to do. We found an answer. 'EvacChairs' are folding skeleton wheelchairs, which can be wheeled down stairs, and designed for this very purpose. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: "Steve McBee" Subject: RE: Don't forget to remember Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 12:56:03 -0500 Message-ID: <001201c6d5cb$8cb976c0$6101a8c0 [at] Steve> In-Reply-To: You're welcome. Steve McBee EMT-IV Ambulance Services, Inc, Nashville, TN -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Herrick Goldman Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:44 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Don't forget to remember For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Hey folks. Sometime in the next 36 hours, walk by your local Police, Fire, EMS station and shake a hand and tell them "thank you". -Herrick -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 14:28:10 -0400 Subject: Re: Don't forget to remember From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Just don't put D-50 in the DF-50 and you'll be ok Steve. On 9/11/06 1:56 PM, "Steve McBee" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > You're welcome. > > Steve McBee > EMT-IV > Ambulance Services, Inc, > Nashville, TN > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Herrick > Goldman > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:44 AM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Don't forget to remember > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hey folks. Sometime in the next 36 hours, walk by your local Police, Fire, > EMS station and shake a hand and tell them "thank you". > > -Herrick -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Message-ID: <77fad3270609111224h2ffc8479k7e19814126afb113 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 15:24:36 -0400 From: "Nathan Kahn" Subject: Re: OT Domain Mail filters WAS Re: POPfile email filter In-Reply-To: References:

> Having missed a few messages in the last month This caught my > attention. > I'm about to do my domain startup and knowing there are several of you > domain owners out there... > I was wondering how you deal with junk and spamming to your domain. When you own your own domain then you have complete control over your email addresses, and you (probably, depending on your host) can have as many as you like. And you can have as many forwarders as you like. However, the answer depends on whether your domain is personal or business. I have both. Here's how I do the personal one: I have two "master" email addresses that I NEVER give out - let's call them public [at] nathankahn.com and private [at] nathankahn.com. Then I make the address I want to give to friend and family - let's make it nathankahn [at] nathankahn.com - and I set this to forward this to "private". Then I make the addresses I want to give out, and let's say one is going to be a fairly secure, like for shopping and lists I want to receive - let's call it nathan [at] nathankahn.com. And I make one that will be totally insecure - list it on a website, use it for newsgroup postings, etc - sendyourjunkhere [at] nathankahn.com. And these 2 get forwarded to "public". So I'm only actually retrieving email for 2 different account, public and private, and remember nobody actually mails to one of these. So you can change the other email addresses if you ever feel the need. You can also put an autoresponder instead of a forward on sendyourjunkhere, saying "if you're a real person then write me at sendyourstuffhere [at] nathankahn.com" BTW now you only need to run your popfile spam filter on the public email account, not the private one. Business domains are kind of the same. Choose one address to be public on your website and expect to get a lot of spam there, and use another for business correspondence w/ customers. Some businesses will use a form on their website for customers to send email, rather than displaying an email address, but I don't like to use these forms personally so I don't force my customers to. Okay that's it for today's dissertation :-) Back to work . . . Nathan -- Look Solutions USA, Ltd. Toll-Free: 1-800-426-4189 Email: usa [at] looksolutions.com Web: www.fogspecs.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <02d101c6d5d8$49b97160$0e00a8c0 [at] Nogle> From: "Nigel Worsley" References: Subject: Re: disabled Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 20:26:49 +0100 > A 'panic' evacuation is a different story. Lifts are out, and the FOH staff > have other things to do. We found an answer. 'EvacChairs' are folding skeleton > wheelchairs, which can be wheeled down stairs, and designed for this very > purpose. Those got thrown out a while back. The current procedure is to call the fire brigade and let them remove the disabled people if necessary. This doesn't sound like a good plan to me, but it was acceptable to the licensing inspector. Nigel Worsley ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4505BBC3.4070303 [at] peak.org> Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 12:40:51 -0700 From: Pat Kight Subject: Re: OT Domain Mail filters WAS Re: POPfile email filter References:

In-Reply-To: Nathan Kahn wrote: >... Some businesses > will use a form on their website for customers to send email, rather > than displaying an email address, but I don't like to use these forms > personally so I don't force my customers to. Alas, spammers have figured out ways to automatically fill out standard HTML forms and use those to spam your mailbox, too. Try googling "comment form spam" or "guestbook spam" for some not very satisfactory workarounds. The comment form for one of the Web sites I manage was generating about 500 spam messages per day before I finally pulled the plug on it - and I still get some from spambots that have the page cached. (If I could delete the cgi script that parsed the form, it would cut those off, but it's not my server or my script, and there are evidently still people who need to use it...) -- Pat Kight ------------------------------ From: "Steve McBee" Subject: RE: Don't forget to remember Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 15:55:13 -0500 Message-ID: <000c01c6d5e4$945f2140$6101a8c0 [at] Steve> In-Reply-To: Almost did the reverse, but woke up on that call and things went ok. -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Herrick Goldman Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 1:28 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Don't forget to remember For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Just don't put D-50 in the DF-50 and you'll be ok Steve. ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 17:57:14 EDT Subject: Re: Handicapped access In a message dated 10/09/06 17:30:48 GMT Daylight Time, tracy.s.fitch.stagecraft [at] gmail.com writes: > I've always been pretty sensitive to wheelchair accessiblity issues, > having spent years helping a grandfather roll around before the ADA. > I still use wheelchair lifts for moving equipment, I just try to make > sure the weight is around a heavy person plus a wheelchair on each > trip. I've only had to explain why I thought it appropriate twice. > To each complainant I pointed out that my regular testing of the lift > meant a problem would be found and corrected before there was a patron > waiting to use it. No issues after that. You seem to have more intelligent administrators than some, and are lucky. The point I am always pressing is emergency evacuation. Maybe ADA does not consider this. But elevators are contra-indicated in emergencies, and often expressly forbidden. OK, you have loaded your disabled patrons into the auditorium: how do you get them out in an emergency? Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4505DF97.6000509 [at] gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 15:13:43 -0700 From: Chip Wood Subject: Re: cue lights References: In-Reply-To: John McKernon wrote: >> The portable Cue light system I mentioned the other day (For variety >> show MC's etc.) uses Red and green 12vdc "Clearance lights" > > Just be sure that none of the actors or crew are Red/Green color blind... > > - John > > > As one who is, may I suggest blue and green. Much easier on us as red is often quite dim and hard or impossible to distinguish from green. Chip ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 18:24:59 EDT Subject: Re: disabled In a message dated 11/09/06 20:26:46 GMT Daylight Time, nigle [at] dsl.pipex.com writes: > Those got thrown out a while back. The current procedure is to call the fire > brigade > and let them remove the disabled people if necessary. This doesn't sound > like a good > plan to me, but it was acceptable to the licensing inspector. There are two issues here. One of what is acceptable to the inspector, and one of which actually affords safety. I agree with you. The fire brigade has to arrive, and assess the situation. This takes time. Myself, I agree with you. Whence did the inspector receive his training, if any: what are his qualifications? What, if anything, does he know about theatres, and their problems? Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 19:21:34 -0400 From: "Jonathan Wills" Subject: Re: OT Domain Mail filters WAS Re: POPfile email filter In-Reply-To: References:

I personally hide all of my emails on my website with this little jewel. http://www.seoconsultants.com/tools/email/ This allows me to encode all my email information so that a spam robot/spider can not get it. It is readable in regular HTML, but not to robots. It will not work for newsgroups or for public posts. Also you email address to stagecraft will get spam. My gmail account is only used here and I get roughly 100 spam a week to it. A little trick I found. Jonathan Wills www.VenueCads.com www.WillsLighting.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 16:31:02 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: OT Domain Mail filters WAS Re: POPfile email filter In-reply-to: Message-id: References:

On Sep 11, 2006, at 4:21 PM, Jonathan Wills wrote: > I personally hide all of my emails on my website with this little > jewel. I have several addresses that get a lot of spam (like "john [at] ") that automatically go to feed my SpamAssassin filter ("LEARN_JUNK_MAIL"). I have one of these addresses set up on our web page to be obvious to a robot but not a human. Our "info [at] " address is automatically tagged as spam unless the Bayes filter is REALLY sure it's not. Spam with scores several times the minimum are automatically deleted at the server. Really high scores gets them fed to the AutoLearn filter. Also, anything that comes through out backup mail server is tagged as almost spam. Works quite well, I only have occasional problems with some odd-ball mailing lists that make it look like it came directly from the submitter, those with Comcast addresses tend to get marked as spam without doing anything else. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20060912000102.86590.qmail [at] web34505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 17:01:02 -0700 (PDT) From: June Abernathy Subject: Re: disabled >(That somebody would choose to interpret an elevator >as usable *only* by handicapped patrons is one of the >best examples of idiot management that I've heard >lately). This is news to you? You are surprised by this? This restriction is so common as to be considered the norm from my point of view. >My "issue" (to the extent that I have one) is the >number of times I've encountered resistance to this >accommodation - and I hate to say it, but >too many times the resistance has come from people on >our side of the business. And way too many times >it's boiled down to "I'm not getting all the toys I >want and it's because of those people in wheelchairs" >(even when that's not actually the case). I >understand fighting for all the cool toys - but when >it comes to throwing a fit (that continued >*after* the building was finished!) because you had >to give up 50 square feet of shop space (a 2500 >square foot shop) to accommodate the >vestibule for the elevator (the same elevator that >the same guy used every freakin' day to get to his >2nd floor office), then I gotta say somebody is >making the wrong decision regarding priorities. And >I'd hope that we were all more willing to come down >on the side of more aggressively implementing access >to our facilities (wherever possible). >Just my opinions - YMMV.....=20 >Michael Finney What if the "toys" they are giving up are less bells and whistles widgets than basic needs like a working light board, or clear com, or a level stage deck? What if it isn't the difference between a 2500 sq ft shop and a 2550 sq foot shop, but between having a shop and not having one? And what if the "access" that this stuff has been sacrificed for is on the order of wheelchair elevators to the catwalks and braille signs on the roof vents and wheelchair lifts to balcony areas where no handicapped seating is sold because an older building has no seats that can be reached without stairs, and there is no way to reliably evacuate such patrons in the event of fire? Yeah, it can make you bitter to see a hideously expensive elevator which cannot be used by non-handicapped people and never IS used by actual handicapped people gathering dust while you try to build scenery with tools you scrounged at the flea market. I don't think it necessarily has to do with "toys" versus sensitivity. I think in a lot of cases, people feel that common sense got tossed out the door in the name of political correctness. Should there be handicapped access to 2nd floor offices? Of course. But should there be handicapped access to the grid, on the off chance that someday, someone with a handicap might have a reason to be up there? Well, maybe, but it would go a hell of a lot lower down on MY priority list. June Abernathy IATSE #321 (Tampa, FL) FOH Electrician The Lion King National Tour (Gazelle) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Occy" References:

Subject: Re: OT Domain Mail filters WAS Re: POPfile email filter Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 17:29:15 -0700 That is strange, I get zero generated from this list or any other lists that I am on. With this address. I have all the list that I subscribe to on this address plus 2 stores and one discount airfare. I have another address like most of you have for surfing and it gets 100+ a day spam that is filter to junk, that I check once a week just in case the filter was a bit to tight. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Wills" > --------------------------------------------------- > > I personally hide all of my emails on my website with this little jewel. > > http://www.seoconsultants.com/tools/email/ > > This allows me to encode all my email information so that a spam > robot/spider can not get it. It is readable in regular HTML, but not > to robots. It will not work for newsgroups or for public posts. Also > you email address to stagecraft will get spam. My gmail account is > only used here and I get roughly 100 spam a week to it. > > A little trick I found. > > Jonathan Wills > www.VenueCads.com > www.WillsLighting.com > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <003901c6d606$4f103d50$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: disabled Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 17:56:41 -0700 > What if the "toys" they are giving up are less bells > and whistles widgets than basic needs like a working > light board, or clear com, or a level stage deck? What > if it isn't the difference between a 2500 sq ft shop > and a 2550 sq foot shop, but between having a shop and > not having one? FWIW, all persons (abled or not) have to go around and outside to the new scene shop at my space. Because it would have been another $10,000 lift to have an indoor access to the shop. (They say ADA says (to paraphrase) there can't be an easy access for able-bodied, and a less-easy access for the less-abled.) - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Message-ID: <062501c6d60f$9c24f8c0$0300a8c0 [at] ALFOFFICE> Reply-To: "Alf Sauve" From: "Alf Sauve" Subject: Camera Platform/Riser Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 22:02:37 -0400 Okay, we're getting lazy around here. Actually, we're just getting burned out. Having spent an intense 8 weeks building out a theatre-for-TV-production from practically scratch, I just don't want to commission one more project. I just want to buy something prefab. 3 cameras are located on tripods on the floor. We knew we'd need to elevate them, but we just haven't had time. I'm looking for something like the Wenger Stage Boxes, but I need 3' x 3' by 16-18"H. I'm getting a quote on Wenger's Versitle Staging, which will do. But I'd love something that folds up and has built in wheels. And that I can get this week. (Okay, next week.) I've burned out searching the net. Who else has staging readily available in 3'x3'? Thanks, Alf Mt Bethel UMC ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 22:44:11 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: OT Domain Mail filters WAS Re: POPfile email filter At 7:21 PM -0400 9/11/06, Jonathan Wills wrote: >I personally hide all of my emails on my website with this little jewel. >http://www.seoconsultants.com/tools/email/ Support!! I used a Javascript generator like this one when I was wrangling a website for a youth group I was affiliated with as an advisor. Works like a charm, and so far is 100% 'bot-proof and spider-proof. -- Dave Vick rigger [at] tds.net "Ah, the good old days... Lights, camera, ass." --Herbie Saint (pants model) ------------------------------ Message-ID: <9c931d380609112006i7e6abd0ai12ea763ae0e31dcc [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 20:06:32 -0700 From: "Scott Price" Subject: opera australia Greetings, I am a graduate student at San Diego State University looking to contact the Technical Director of Opera Australia. Does anyone know who that would be or how to contact them? I am also researching elevator brake systems if anyone knows a good source of material for that. Thank you, Scott Price -- Scott Price Theatrical Technician 3560 6th Ave Unit 8 San Diego, CA 92103 860-670-7815 ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: James Feinberg Subject: Re: Camera Platform/Riser Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 20:14:35 -0700 I've seen these, usually in a combination of a rectangle (for the operator) and a triangle (for the tripod). Have you tried Markertek? Aha! A google for "video operator riser" turned up this company that I think is exactly what you want: http://www.spidersupport.com/ If you really just want platforms, I've used a company called, I think, Midwest Products for some fast and easy audience risers. The vendor I used was Dallas Midwest. Try: http://www.dallasmidwest.com/Listing.asp?idCategory=12&idSubCategory=52 --James Feinberg San Diego, CA On Sep 11, 2006, at 7:02 PM, Alf Sauve wrote: > 3 cameras are located on tripods on the floor. We knew we'd need to > elevate > them, but we just haven't had time. I'm looking for something like the > Wenger Stage Boxes, but I need 3' x 3' by 16-18"H. I'm getting a > quote on > Wenger's Versitle Staging, which will do. But I'd love something that > folds up and has built in wheels. And that I can get this week. > (Okay, next week.) ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Occy" Cc: alf.sauve [at] mindspring.com (Alf Sauve) References: Subject: Re: Camera Platform/Riser Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 23:01:58 -0700 Call SECOA 800.328.5519 if your in the USA. Having worked for them, it right up their road. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alf Sauve" --------------------------------------------------- > > Okay, we're getting lazy around here. Actually, we're just getting burned > out. Having spent an intense 8 weeks building out a > theatre-for-TV-production from practically scratch, I just don't want to > commission one more project. I just want to buy something prefab. > > 3 cameras are located on tripods on the floor. We knew we'd need to > elevate > them, but we just haven't had time. I'm looking for something like the > Wenger Stage Boxes, but I need 3' x 3' by 16-18"H. I'm getting a quote on > Wenger's Versitle Staging, which will do. But I'd love something that > folds up and has built in wheels. And that I can get this week. > (Okay, next week.) > > I've burned out searching the net. Who else has staging readily available > in 3'x3'? > > Thanks, Alf > Mt Bethel UMC > > > ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #946 *****************************