Return-Path: X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/Clamd http://raeinternet.com/mpp X-Scanned-By: This message was scanned by MPP Lite Edition (www.messagepartners.com)! X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 35023472; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 03:02:14 -0700 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on localhost X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=ADVANCE_FEE_1,AWL, NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS,SARE_MILLIONSOF autolearn=no version=3.1.5 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #954 Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 03:01:27 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #954 1. Re: mini-mag re fit by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 2. Re: hullo? by "Paul Puppo" 3. Re: Cue Lights by CB 4. Re: disabled by "Bill Conner" 5. Re: disabled by Jerry Durand 6. Re: mini-mag re fit by "Idaho Scenic & Rigging" 7. Re: Theater Planning by "Bill Conner" 8. Re: More OT Book Stuff by "Daniel O'Donnell" 9. Flashlight geekdom by "Dougherty, Jim" 10. Re: Flashlight geekdom by "Brian Munroe" 11. Re: Flashlight geekdom by Joe Golden 12. Re: Flashlight geekdom by Joe Golden 13. Re: MiniMags, Switches, and LEDs (was Re: Cue Lights) by Chip Wood 14. Re: MiniMags, Switches, and LEDs (was Re: Cue Lights) by Rigger 15. Re: Flashlight geekdom by Clive Mitchell 16. Re: Flashlight geekdom by Jerry Durand 17. Re: Flashlight geekdom by Jerry Durand 18. Re: MiniMags, Switches, and LEDs (was Re: Cue Lights) by "Andy Leviss" 19. Re: MiniMags, Switches, and LEDs (was Re: Cue Lights) by Rigger 20. Looking for someone... by "Paul Schreiner" 21. Projector position by "Laura McMeley" 22. Re: mini-mag re fit by "Bill Nelson" 23. Re: Projector position by "Bill Nelson" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 13:44:10 GMT Subject: Re: mini-mag re fit Message-Id: <20060917.064440.8266.507966 [at] webmail37.lax.untd.com> Not really. As your iris closes, the resolving power of your eye gets = better, so there is a benefit to increased brightness, within limits. /s/ Richard > If it's too bright your eyes just adjust anyway and negate the = benefit of the intensity. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3998154b0609170701i44f63fdak63bc036af825960b [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 07:01:46 -0700 From: "Paul Puppo" Subject: Re: hullo? In-Reply-To: References:

http://www.bunheads.com/About.html Paul Puppo ILLUMINEERING http://www.Nifty-Gadgets.com On 9/16/06, Jim Hyslop wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Herrick Goldman wrote: > > That's why I have terms of endearment for everyone. I'm very egalitarian > > that way. Actrons, Meat Puppets, Bunheads > > Heh - my sound teacher at college was married to a dancer, who was not > at all adverse to calling herself a bunhead. In fact, she even had a > Bunhead Theory as to why bunheads sometimes act... well, the way they > do. Her theory was that the bun is attached to a threaded rod inside the > skull. The brain is mounted on that rod, and will eventually work itself > loose. So every once in a while, you have to twist the bun to tighten > the connection and get the brain working again. > > -- > Jim Hyslop > > > ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060904082820.00d0cd50 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 08:28:20 From: CB Subject: Re: Cue Lights >In the dark, we're all colorblind. Not the pros. In the dark, we turn on the maglight. True story. We were working in a proscenium theatre at a College of Fine Arts, and a student production was in the black box next door. We shared quite a lot of the facilities hallways and passages. When the power to the entire building went out, giant adjacent loading doors to both theatres were open, and I was standing in the nexus. It went black. REAL black. Can't see anything except the lil sparklies that your brain starts to create. Seconds later the pro theatre started winking with the light of many mags. Not so much in the student half of things, although there were a couple of instructors and students that were pros that had lights. If you're in the dark, without a flashlight, connecting four-ought by feel, you've already made mistakes large enough to qualify for removal under Darwinian law. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002301c6da6b$19843b50$6401a8c0 [at] BCA1> Reply-To: "Bill Conner" From: "Bill Conner" Subject: Re: disabled Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 10:08:14 -0500 NODEraser posted: The evacuation procedure in my reisdence building, is for the weelchair-bound residents to wait in the stairwell for the fire crews to arrive. . There is extra room for this purpose, but the mental effect of watching everyone leave the burning building while you're stuck there can't be very encouraging. And that is the concept of many fire and building codes - to provide a area of refuge or area of rescue assistance - I can't remember which is the currently politically correct term - where a person with a disability (please - not "wheelchair-bound") can wait. The good news is that in actual fires and other emergencies requiring evacuation, people without disabilities inevitably assist the people with disabilities. I mean honestly, how many of you are going to run by or leave a person who can't get out by themselves to wait for the fire service? Damn few, I suspect. There is very little evidence and very few examples of people not behaving very altruistically in emergency egress situations despite the reports in the so called news media. ("People behaved splendidly and everyone was safe" simply does not sell newspapers.) I don't mean to suggest that we shouldn't provide proven redundant systems for safety because in most incidents resulting in injury and death, there has been more than a single failure contributing to the results, and we do have to be especially careful where a person with a disability may be a lone occupant, but lets not ignore that people do behave well and can help in emergencies while planning. Bill C. ASTC, ETCP CR-T ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 08:30:02 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: disabled In-reply-to: Message-id: References: On Sep 17, 2006, at 8:08 AM, Bill Conner wrote: > And that is the concept of many fire and building codes - to > provide a area of refuge or area of rescue assistance - I can't > remember which is the currently politically correct term - where a > person with a disability (please - not "wheelchair-bound") can > wait. The good news is that in actual fires and other emergencies > requiring evacuation, people without disabilities inevitably assist > the people with disabilities. I mean honestly, how many of you are > going to run by or leave a person who can't get out by themselves > to wait for the fire service? Damn few, I suspect. So, the rules are written knowing, actually assuming people will disregard them and opt to help the people who can't get down the stairs on their own? What sort of rule-making body writes rules hoping people will disregard them? ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001701c6da6e$8b81b8b0$6401a8c0 [at] amd2200> From: "Idaho Scenic & Rigging" References: Subject: Re: mini-mag re fit Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 09:32:54 -0600 >so there is a benefit to increased brightness, within limits As my post 45 eyes will attest to. Rob't From: Not really. As your iris closes, the resolving power of your eye gets better, so there is a benefit to increased brightness, within limits. /s/ Richard > If it's too bright your eyes just adjust anyway and negate the benefit of the intensity. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <023b01c6da82$dc947bc0$6401a8c0 [at] BCA1> Reply-To: "Bill Conner" From: "Bill Conner" Subject: Re: Theater Planning Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 12:58:20 -0500 A few days ago Keith posted: "I am sure there are wonderful theatrical consultants who treat those who actually have to use the finished product with respect, (and yes, some of the GOOD ONES participate here) but way too often I have witnessed the "big boys" from the "you know who" firm come in an treat the locals as "yokels"" No doubt, from time to time, I've had at least one foot in both sides of this. I believe for the most part buildings I've worked on are better for my participation but very few if any are perfect or without results that might be better if they had turned out otherwise. The biggest problems are those where a representative of the architect, contractor, or owner - who generally has not been a part of the design progress and doesn't understand entertainment technology, has made a field decision. Consistently, however, what I have observed in others' work as well as in my own is that the full time, professional theatre consultant has been instrumental in setting realistic budgets and convincing the owner to spend much more than they originally thought. More than a few projects I have worked on have spent many more millions of dollars than they originally planned, and haven't regretted it. So, one has to ask themselves if $10 million spent on a building with some of it other than you would prefer is better or worse than $5 million all at the specific direction of the local tech and design folk. Or, in practical terms, maybe you wouldn't want 12 circuits on the balcony rail but better 12 of 300 than none of 150 it would seem. (And need I mention that at the meeting where it's discussed that the budget is being stretched, it's inevitably the local tech people that suggest cutting theatre equipment?) And please try to keep in mind that the current local folk operating the building are probably not the only ones that will do that in the life of the building. And this does not excuse some of the colossal, boneheaded, theatre design blunders I have seen - some originating from the consultant and some form the user side, and more than a few from the architects. And if you have particular items in a building I worked on, please let me know. If it's a mistake, I'd like to not repeat it. Bill C. ASTC, ETCP CR-T ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References:

Message-Id: <6A9693E8-EF3B-40CB-B545-5AD3401A9F25 [at] mystykworks.com> From: "Daniel O'Donnell" Subject: Re: More OT Book Stuff Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 14:01:06 -0400 DeLint is elves, and manitou on earth. Brust may be not on earth, but isn't at all SF. On Sep 17, 2006, at 1:01 AM, Stuart Wheaton wrote: > > DeLint and Brust looked like "Elves in Space" stuff from the > covers, am I wrong? Dunno why, but kzin are fine, elves are not. > > Stuart --- Daniel R. O'Donnell dan [at] mystyk.com http://www.mystyk.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 15:00:07 -0400 Subject: Flashlight geekdom From: "Dougherty, Jim" Message-ID: For pouches, I like the ones made by Reeline (and sold directly, or through Tools for Stagecraft among others) that hold a mini maglite and Leatherman beautifully, along with pens, hemostats, whatever. They make many models, to hold a wide variety of flashlights including Surefire, as well as cell phones, multitools, what have you. Mine don't hold the AAA Streamlight Twintask (LED and xenon in the same light) but it's a good light all the same. It's just a shade bigger than the minimag. I also like and own headlamps (LED and dual mode), but I usually don't wear them on my head because I get a headache from the straps and blind everyone I look at. I wear it around my neck, upside down, so that I can aim it easily at a notebook or cue sheet. If I'm on a task where I'm not sitting in a tech, and need both hands, I wear it normally. Insert here the usual cautions about wearing things around your neck. You can also take it off entirely and loop the strap around the pouch mentioned above. Hi, my name is Jim, and I'm addicted to flashlights (with apologies to all those with real addiction problems). - Jim Dougherty ATD, Middlebury College Theatre Dept. ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 16:45:29 -0400 From: "Brian Munroe" Subject: Re: Flashlight geekdom In-Reply-To: References: > For pouches, I like the ones made by Reeline (and sold directly, or through > Tools for Stagecraft among others) that hold a mini maglite and Leatherman > beautifully, along with pens, hemostats, whatever. They make many models, > to hold a wide variety of flashlights including Surefire, as well as cell > phones, multitools, what have you. Mine don't hold the AAA Streamlight > Twintask (LED and xenon in the same light) but it's a good light all the > same. It's just a shade bigger than the minimag. I love my Reeline ("Ripoff") pouch. I use the CO-75 which holds my leatherman and surefire 6P, plus sharpies/pens. Unfortunately, Reeline is going out of business. Stock up on your favorites now. Brian Munroe bpmunroe [at] gmail.com ------------------------------ From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Joe=20Golden?= Subject: RE: Flashlight geekdom Date: 17 Sep 2006 13:52:48 -0700 Message-ID: I am sorry to say that The Reel Line Company has closed as of late last = month. I have a few pouches in stock, as does a friends shop. Please =20= contact me off list about this or if you want to help get another company= to make these. Joe Golden Sent from my Treo -----Original Message----- For pouches, I like the ones made by Reeline (and sold directly, or = through Tools for Stagecraft among others) that hold a mini maglite and Leatherman beautifully, along with pens, hemostats, whatever. They make many models, to hold a wide variety of flashlights including Surefire, as well as cell phones, multitools, what have you. Mine don't hold the AAA Streamlight Twintask (LED and xenon in the same light) but it's a good light all the same. It's just a shade bigger than the minimag. I also like and own headlamps (LED and dual mode), but I usually don't = wear them on my head because I get a headache from the straps and blind = everyone I look at. I wear it around my neck, upside down, so that I can aim it easily at a notebook or cue sheet. If I'm on a task where I'm not sitting in a tech, and need both hands, I wear it normally. Insert here the usual cautions about wearing things around your neck. You can also take it off entirely and loop the strap around the pouch mentioned above. Hi, my name is Jim, and I'm addicted to flashlights (with apologies to all those with real addiction problems). - Jim Dougherty ATD, Middlebury College Theatre Dept. ------------------------------ From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Joe=20Golden?= Subject: RE: Flashlight geekdom Date: 17 Sep 2006 13:52:48 -0700 Message-ID: I am sorry to say that The Reel Line Company has closed as of late last = month. I have a few pouches in stock, as does a friends shop. Please =20= contact me off list about this or if you want to help get another company= to make these. Joe Golden Sent from my Treo -----Original Message----- For pouches, I like the ones made by Reeline (and sold directly, or = through Tools for Stagecraft among others) that hold a mini maglite and Leatherman beautifully, along with pens, hemostats, whatever. They make many models, to hold a wide variety of flashlights including Surefire, as well as cell phones, multitools, what have you. Mine don't hold the AAA Streamlight Twintask (LED and xenon in the same light) but it's a good light all the same. It's just a shade bigger than the minimag. I also like and own headlamps (LED and dual mode), but I usually don't = wear them on my head because I get a headache from the straps and blind = everyone I look at. I wear it around my neck, upside down, so that I can aim it easily at a notebook or cue sheet. If I'm on a task where I'm not sitting in a tech, and need both hands, I wear it normally. Insert here the usual cautions about wearing things around your neck. You can also take it off entirely and loop the strap around the pouch mentioned above. Hi, my name is Jim, and I'm addicted to flashlights (with apologies to all those with real addiction problems). - Jim Dougherty ATD, Middlebury College Theatre Dept. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <450DC3C4.6000204 [at] gmail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 14:53:08 -0700 From: Chip Wood Subject: Re: MiniMags, Switches, and LEDs (was Re: Cue Lights) References:

In-Reply-To: Rigger wrote: > That's MISTER Bitch to you, Andrew. > Having trouble reaching your inner feminine? :) Chip ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 18:35:03 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: MiniMags, Switches, and LEDs (was Re: Cue Lights) At 2:53 PM -0700 9/17/06, Chip Wood wrote: >> That's MISTER Bitch to you, Andrew. > > Having trouble reaching your inner feminine? :) She ran away. I pissed her off. -- Dave Vick rigger [at] tds.net The reason they call it "The American Dream" is because you have to be asleep to believe in it. ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 23:51:52 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: Flashlight geekdom References: In-Reply-To: In message , "Dougherty, Jim" writes >I also like and own headlamps (LED and dual mode), but I usually don't >wear them on my head because I get a headache from the straps and blind >everyone I look at. Do you have a Tikka though? Normally I hate having straps round my head, but the Tikka is so light that the strap can be very loose. It really is so easy to forget it's there that I often get reminded by others that my headlight is still on my head. I'm beginning to sound like an advert for Petzl now! I'll counter it by saying that they're quite expensive. (But so much better than the Chinese knock-off's!) -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 16:07:14 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Flashlight geekdom In-reply-to: Message-id: <4A10EC85-FC11-4A79-A2CB-10C2B3E3F02E [at] interstellar.com> References:

On Sep 17, 2006, at 3:51 PM, Clive Mitchell wrote: > Do you have a Tikka though? Normally I hate having straps round my > head, but the Tikka is so light that the strap can be very loose. > It really is so easy to forget it's there that I often get reminded > by others that my headlight is still on my head. I see this is a lot smaller than the 7-LED police one I have. A problem I have is my hardhat has a flip-up face shield (for when I'm working with things that go bang) and that would knock the lamp off the helmet. Any thoughts on if the Tikka would mound on or behind (shining through it) the face shield > I'm beginning to sound like an advert for Petzl now! I'll counter > it by saying that they're quite expensive. (But so much better > than the Chinese knock-off's!) $25 on Amazon.com, doesn't seem all that high. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 16:13:27 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Flashlight geekdom In-reply-to: Message-id: References:

I found the link to the guys with the good prices and selection of LED stuff: http://www.qualitychinagoods.com/ While I haven't ordered from them (yet), they come highly rated. ------------------------------ From: "Andy Leviss" Subject: Re: MiniMags, Switches, and LEDs (was Re: Cue Lights) Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 22:14:07 -0400 Organization: Duck's Echo Sound Message-ID: <01f001c6dac8$1f49ea50$8f14e748 [at] Andy> In-Reply-To: Grand Master Vick wrote: > That's MISTER Bitch to you, Andrew. > > (how's tricks?) But of course, sir! Crazy here, full time at the shop, and mixing shows on top. I did, however, get the chance to be in the same room as Herrick, ten pompoms, and a few spandex cheerleader outfits last week, so it isn't all bad! --Andy -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006 ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 22:42:46 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: MiniMags, Switches, and LEDs (was Re: Cue Lights) At 10:14 PM -0400 9/17/06, Andy Leviss wrote: > I did, however, get the chance to be in the same room as > Herrick, ten pompoms, and a few spandex cheerleader outfits > last week, so it isn't all bad! Sounds like you were working on a porno flick. -- Dave Vick rigger [at] tds.net I almost don't feel the way I do, only more so. ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 23:40:53 -0400 From: "Paul Schreiner" Subject: Looking for someone... If anyone knows the whereabouts of Patrick Shaughnessy (most recently of Valdosta State), please contact me off-list. ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Laura McMeley" Subject: Projector position Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 23:20:17 -0500 Message-ID: <044e01c6dad9$bfb29cb0$6600a8c0 [at] tdolighting01> I'm considering options for projecting images on the floor of a thrust stage. Does anyone know if it is possible to mount a projector on it's side, so it projects straight down. Will it create heat or other problems with the filament of the lamp? I have also thought of mounting the projector in the usual upright position and using a mirror to redirect the image. Has anybody else tried this? Any other ideas? Laura McMeley Freelance LD, Dallas TX 972-333-5016 http://www.geocities.com/lmcmeley/ ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1305.205.215.255.18.1158553292.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 21:21:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: mini-mag re fit From: "Bill Nelson" >>so there is a benefit to increased brightness, within limits > > As my post 45 eyes will attest to. This must not be universal. Many times, when I am setting light levels, the director will tell me the scene is too dark to see the actor's faces, yet the facial features are easily visible to me. This is with directors whom are much younger than my almost 60 years of age. Maybe my eyesight, as for as intensity is concerned, is exceptional. I have always had good night vision. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1336.205.215.255.18.1158556526.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 22:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Projector position From: "Bill Nelson" > I'm considering options for projecting images on the floor of a thrust > stage. Does anyone know if it is possible to mount a projector on it's > side, > so it projects straight down. Will it create heat or other problems with > the > filament of the lamp? I have also thought of mounting the projector in the > usual upright position and using a mirror to redirect the image. Has > anybody else tried this? Any other ideas? Every modern projector I have encountered has a strong fan for cooling. I have not tried it, but there should not be any problem with mounting the projector with the lens downward - except the lens focus mechanism might not hold focus well in that position. Be sure to check the instruction manual to make sure that the lamp does not have to be mounted in a certain position to protect the lamp seal. I have used beam benders with ERs containing patterns - and they have worked well. The same idea should work fine with a projector. Bill ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #954 *****************************