Return-Path: X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/Clamd http://raeinternet.com/mpp X-Scanned-By: This message was scanned by MPP Lite Edition (www.messagepartners.com)! X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 35287503; Sat, 23 Sep 2006 03:01:08 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=ADVANCE_FEE_1,AWL, NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on localhost X-Spam-Level: X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #960 Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 03:00:39 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #960 1. Re: Driving a truck in Manhattan by "Occy" 2. Re: Teacher curriculum by "Bill Nelson" 3. Re: Driving a truck in Manhattan by Charlie Richmond 4. Re: Teacher curriculum by "Jon Ares" 5. Re: Close to home... by Scott Spidell 6. Wonderflex and FossShape by "Tom Hackman" 7. Re: Teacher curriculum by "Scott Parker" 8. Re: Jay O. Glerum LDI rigging Seminar by Scott Spidell 9. Re: Wonderflex and FossShape by "Laurie Swigart" 10. Re: Driving a Truck in Manahattan by SS 11. Re: Driving a truck in Manhattan by SS 12. Re: Sound Guy Boot Camp (Was:RE: Teacher curriculum) by SS 13. Re: Teacher curriculum by Ford Sellers 14. Re: Jay O. Glerum LDI rigging Seminar by SS 15. You know you work in a special place when by b Ricie 16. Re: Close to home... by "Bill Nelson" 17. Re: Close to home... by Clive Mitchell 18. Re: Close to home... by "Bill Nelson" 19. Re: Jay O. Glerum LDI rigging Seminar by "Michael Finney" 20. Re: Jay O. Glerum LDI rigging Seminar by MartySrq [at] aol.com 21. Re: Teacher curriculum by "JUSTIN DAVID BENNETT" 22. Re: age, memory, and that website by "Don Taco" 23. Alan Symonds Memorial Change of Date by "Mike Katz" 24. Re: Jay O. Glerum LDI rigging Seminar by "Idaho Scenic & Rigging" 25. Re: Jay O. Glerum LDI rigging Seminar by Greg Persinger 26. Re: age, memory, and that website by Bruce Purdy 27. Re: Sound board for a theatre by "Bill Nelson" 28. Re: Driving a truck in Manhattan by Dale farmer 29. Re: Sound board for a theatre by Shawn Palmer 30. Re: Sound board for a theatre by megironda [at] att.net (Gerry G.) 31. Re: Sound board for a theatre by Shawn Palmer 32. Re: Sound board for a theatre by "Bill Nelson" 33. Re: Sound board for a theatre by "Bill Nelson" 34. Re: sound guy boot camp by "Joel Harari" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: From: "Occy" Cc: sdwheaton [at] fuse.net References:

Subject: Re: Driving a truck in Manhattan Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 21:43:33 -0700 Our you sure that if your mom and girlfriend saw that video that would be the only reason you wouldn't be allowed out of their sight? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart Wheaton" > --------------------------------------------------- > > > I did that last week! I was amazed at how there just seemed to be a > space whenever the guy needed it! Probably the power of the plastic > Jesus on the dashboard. Unlike the states, nobody had to prove > anything, they actually yielded to people driving like idiots instead of > trying to force them to comply with the traffic rules. I wished I had a > video camera, but if I showed the video to my mom or girlfriend I would > never be allowed to go back! > > Stuart > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1304.205.215.255.219.1158916464.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 02:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Teacher curriculum From: "Bill Nelson" > Hmm.... yeah... I just don't know how well it would fly... teachers are > terribly over-worked, and horribly under-paid. Every teacher I know > (including myself) has a serious difficulty getting one more thing on > the plate. I think the only way it would work is if: 1) It was required on a periodic basis (maybe every 5 years) before a teacher could supervise/teach tech theatre subjects and 2) It has a test that must be passed with a high percentage (maybe 75% except for safety issues which would be higher). My mother was a high school teacher. She taught 4 English classes and 2 Science classes every day of an 8 period day. The other two periods were a study hall and a prep period. Class sizes were 30-40 students. Do teachers still have this heavy a load? Bill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 11:41:09 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: Driving a truck in Manhattan In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References:

On Fri, 22 Sep 2006, Andy Ciddor wrote: > This is reminiscent of the situation I found in Kuala Lumpur. > Everybody drives like idiots: without exception. > But everyone seems to accept that, and doesn't try to prove ownership of the > road. If someone barges in front of you, you let them do it, because that's > what you want to happen, when you do the same thing two minutes from now. > There are no hands on horns, no recriminations or road rage, and > surprisingly, very few accidents. > > I was terrified of it on the first few taxi rides, but once I caught on to > what was happening, I simply relaxed and watched the spectacle in pure > amazement! And the technique in Indonesia is another degree more bizarre than that! Indeed, KL seems quite tame compared to Jakarta! Charlie ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000501c6de45$a8c6ac20$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References:

Subject: Re: Teacher curriculum Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 05:50:19 -0700 > My mother was a high school teacher. She taught 4 English classes and 2 > Science classes every day of an 8 period day. The other two periods were a > study hall and a prep period. Class sizes were 30-40 students. Do teachers > still have this heavy a load? Is that all?? Lightweight. :) Yeah, it's still that way. Except now we frequently have 2 classes in one period. It's sort of like the one-room schoolhouse in a classroom - kids of different levels in the same class at the same time, studying different curriculi. We've got a choir period where the (really great) choir teacher has 70 in the room - one class is a Freshman Choir, the other is the Women's Ensemble. Two very different levels of Choir. We've got English and Science classes like that too. Drama has both Acting/Directing Seminar and Scene Study in the same period. One teacher. When I taught at ArtTech HS last year, I had several classes, but one class called "Digital Media." For some kids, it was Film Studies, for some it was Web Design, others it was 3d Animation, etc. I had 9 preps - and only taught half the day. (The other half I taught at a college - so I actually had 10 preps.) - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.0.20060922090817.01b6f518 [at] uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:13:28 -0400 From: Scott Spidell Subject: Re: Close to home... In-Reply-To: References: At 05:14 AM 9/22/2006, Kristi wrote: >June brings up an excellent point, and it's also the thrust of Dr. Doom's >new book: the VAST majority of HS theatre teachers have not themselves been >properly instructed in safety techniques for theatre. >So who's going to open a place to train them? > Kristi We do. It seems like almost half our graduates go into teaching high school and I know that they leave here knowing what's safe and also the limitations of what they've been able to glean from our pretty little heads. Scott Scott Spidell Drama Department University of Waterloo ML 104 x84767 or 519-888-4767 (F) 519-725-0651 drama.uwaterloo.ca ccat.uwaterloo.ca ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002a01c6de4b$cdb989c0$3f1910ac [at] Hackman1> From: "Tom Hackman" References: Subject: Wonderflex and FossShape Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:34:17 -0400 Is Thermo-Man out there somewhere? I am looking for a supplier for of Wonderflex and FossShape thermoplastics. Our costumer is looking for a way to line/stiffen some cheap plastic breastplate/bodyarmor that she has. Anybody have a supplier? Please email me offlist if you can help. TIA, Tom Hackman Assistant Professor of Theatre Davis & Elkins College Elkins, WV ------------------------------ Message-ID: <90d9c9980609220646q575b17c8ibf6a1a1397915f24 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:46:26 -0400 From: "Scott Parker" Subject: Re: Teacher curriculum In-Reply-To: References:

with all this talk about teacher curriculums... if anyone has any interest I happen to know that the New York City Department of Education is looking for a couple of teachers to teach technical theater in high school. There are several hoops that one would have to jump through, but it is certainly a worthwhile endeavor. If anyone is interested, let me know off list and I can hook you up with the right person to talk to. -- Thanks and take care, Scott Scott C. Parker Professor/Technical Director Dept. of Performing Arts Dyson College of Arts and Sciences [at] Pace University Office/shipping: 41 Park Row, 1205F Mailing: 1 Pace Plaza New York, NY 10038 212-346-1423 Fax: 914-989-8425 ------------------------------ Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.0.20060922092556.01b7abd0 [at] uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:52:25 -0400 From: Scott Spidell Subject: Re: Jay O. Glerum LDI rigging Seminar In-Reply-To: References: At 05:14 AM 9/22/2006, Greg wrote: >Has anyone on the list ever attended a rigging seminar that Jay O. Glerum >has presented? >What did you think? I did a three-day course with Jay in Banff about 8 years ago - I would have loved a week. Clear and informative. Talks about tying his shoes - should ask him why he doesn't wear loafers? Anywho, course was well worth it. And Banff, of course, was stunning. Scott Wow, two responses in one day. Scott Spidell Drama Department University of Waterloo ML 104 x84767 or 519-888-4767 (F) 519-725-0651 drama.uwaterloo.ca ccat.uwaterloo.ca ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Laurie Swigart" Subject: RE: Wonderflex and FossShape Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:18:10 -0500 Organization: Upstage Review Theatre Company Message-ID: <001401c6de51$f2a00b50$0301a8c0 [at] SWIGART> In-Reply-To: http://www.dazian.com/ Subject: Wonderflex and FossShape Is Thermo-Man out there somewhere? I am looking for a supplier for of Wonderflex and FossShape thermoplastics. Our costumer is looking for a way to line/stiffen some cheap plastic breastplate/bodyarmor that she has. Anybody have a supplier? Please email me offlist if you can help. TIA, ------------------------------ Message-ID: <8231e7ea0609220729h1f73781wafd2703a3db36ca5 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:29:13 -0400 From: SS Subject: Re: Driving a Truck in Manahattan In-Reply-To: References:

> > Sorry, still have not mastered this new laptop keyboard. Somehow I am > hitting "send" accidentally, weird. > > Anyway- > > So you survived I-95? When I lived in Ft. Lauderdale and Boca I would > see 5-6 examples of "stupid" drivers a day. Since I moved to Phoenix > that is down to 5-6 a month. Happens to the best of us. Always manage to do something unintended when trying to type on a laptop. I feel your pain. Survived it almost daily. Hated it. The whole area from Miami all the way up through Jupiter. Just one idiot after another. Totally insane! Boca, specifically, was were I saw the most lunacy on the road. The rest of Palm Beach county was just as bad for the most part. It curbed somewhat the further south you travelled, but was still out of control. Growing up and living in/around NYC most of my life I never felt unsafe. But everyday when I got in the car down in So. Fla, I feared for my life!! :) So at this point we should probably steer this off-list....so I'll pose the questions and give you the joy of changing the address.... where did you live in Ft. Lauderdale/Boca area? where did you work? perhaps we have crossed paths and are unaware. -SS TTS-EKU "Short summary of every Jewish holiday: They tried to kill us, we won, let's eat." ------------------------------ Message-ID: <8231e7ea0609220735r6200a7c1l5fe6b8bdb58b7adc [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:35:27 -0400 From: SS Subject: Re: Driving a truck in Manhattan In-Reply-To: References:

>>>>G-damn Manhattan drivers cut me off and forced me to drive across the same bridge four times when I was trying to escape back to the relative sanity and safety of New Jersey.<<<< Ah, quite being a wuss. :) Out of curiousity, how did you go over the bridge four times? Once you were over once you should've been NOT in your original locale anymore? First time I've ever heard those words..."relative sanity and safety of New Jersey". Are you sure? :) :) -SS TTS-EKU "Short summary of every Jewish holiday: They tried to kill us, we won, let's eat." ------------------------------ Message-ID: <8231e7ea0609220738q73d27104od1e5fb7dd54a9f9e [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:38:41 -0400 From: SS Subject: Re: Sound Guy Boot Camp (Was:RE: Teacher curriculum) In-Reply-To: References: >>>>I was just curious what programs others have developed to train new sound guys. Does anyone have a written curriculum or guide?<<<< Just for giggles, you may want to also pose this question over on the Sound listserve. http://www.brooklyn.com/theatre-sound/index.html You may get a few more ideas/hits. Oh, and if someone does indeed throw you a bone, I'd be interested in hearing the results. Anything helps in the land of education!! TIA. HTH. -SS TTS-EKU "Short summary of every Jewish holiday: They tried to kill us, we won, let's eat." ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20060922102822.03118880 [at] cornell.edu> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:39:34 -0400 From: Ford Sellers Subject: Re: Teacher curriculum In-Reply-To: References:

Yes, My wife teaches. 7 periods a day, plus a Homeroom, with one "Prep Period" where the teachers on a team are supposed to co-ordinate their lessons. This usually is taken up by Parent/Teacher Conferences, and often a teacher is "encouraged" to give up their prep to cover a class for a sick colleague, as there aren't enough Substitutes. In addition to all of the "in school" hours, you have events and concerts that you're "encouraged" to attend, 50 hours of Continuing Ed courses (in NY) every 4 years (most of which isn't required to be paid by the school district), and of course the hours of paper grading & parent phone calls. Also we live in a small town, which means that every trip to the grocery store is considered "Open Season" for impromptu Parent/Teacher Conferences. Oh, and teachers are blamed for our kids not "succeeding" (because the parents don't need to set rules and examples, "That's why we pay teachers") and being greedy mooches that suck up all of the tax dollars, and make everyone's taxes go up. Nevermind that they're required to have a Masters Degree, plus to pay for all of their continuing ed, plus they don't get paid at all for 3 months of the year, etc,etc,etc,... Sorry Sore Subject. -Ford >My mother was a high school teacher. She taught 4 English classes and 2 >Science classes every day of an 8 period day. The other two periods were a >study hall and a prep period. Class sizes were 30-40 students. Do teachers >still have this heavy a load? > >Bill ************************ Ford H Sellers Master Electrician Cornell University Schwartz Center for the Performing Arts 430 College Avenue Ithaca NY, 14850 (607) 254-2736 office (607) 254-2733 fax ------------------------------ Message-ID: <8231e7ea0609220751v25abf177w2960c6ed5c54c190 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:51:19 -0400 From: SS Subject: Re: Jay O. Glerum LDI rigging Seminar In-Reply-To: References:

> Has anyone on the list ever attended a rigging seminar that Jay O. Glerum > has presented? > > What did you think? > > I am looking at attending his rigging seminar at LDI and am looking for > opinions. (surely someone on this list has one) > > I have also ordered his book as recommended to me by a friend but it is > currently lost in shipping. Never attended anything in which he has presented. Although it's on my long-term wishlist of USITT/LDI "things to do". However, I do give a big two thumbs up of approval for his book. IMO, a must own in our biz. Happy reading. -SS TTS-EKU "Short summary of every Jewish holiday: They tried to kill us, we won, let's eat." ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20060922145329.64550.qmail [at] web50609.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 07:53:29 -0700 (PDT) From: b Ricie Subject: You know you work in a special place when In-Reply-To: I know we can give the meat puppets and self moving props a hard time now and again, but sometimes an actor can surprise you. You know you work in a special place when an equity actor uses their free time to fix a hole in the porch of the staff carpenters house. At an opening night party "Sam" put his foot through a hole in the porch. A few feet away was an old phone book. Sam moved the phone book to cover the hole only to find the book was covering a larger hole. Sam was there for two weeks, a joy to work with, and by the time he left the carpenters had a brand new porch, all done by Sam. Now that is what I call a thank you. The shed at the staff housing needs some work, I hope Sam comes back next year! Brian Rice 508-685-0716 b_ricie [at] yahoo.com "Blessed are the cracked: For it is they who let in the light." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1450.205.215.255.219.1158937730.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 08:08:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Close to home... From: "Bill Nelson" >>Under supervision performs skilled work as a journeyman craftsman in >>one or more trades in the maintenance, construction, and repair of >>district buildings, and performs related work as required. (responsibilities list deleted) I doubt if there has ever been a person who was a journeyman as a steamfitter, a carpenter (both rough carpentry and finish carpentry), an electrician and a welder. In many states, you cannot do unsupervised work at any of the above without a journeyman ticket. Also, fire alarm equipment in a public access building often requires a certified installer. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 16:29:27 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: Close to home... References:

In-Reply-To: In message , Bill Nelson writes >I doubt if there has ever been a person who was a journeyman as a >steamfitter, a carpenter (both rough carpentry and finish carpentry), >an electrician and a welder. > >In many states, you cannot do unsupervised work at any of the above >without a journeyman ticket. > >Also, fire alarm equipment in a public access building often requires a >certified installer. You're absolutely right, so here in the UK we have "facilities management" companies who have special departments and special training courses designed to get the thickest of individuals a meaningless certification in many areas. That way they only need one cocky labourer to do the work of many skilled operatives. Once these labourers have their "certificates" they genuinely believe they can do the work. In reality the sole purpose of the certificates is as a disclaimer of liability for the employer so that if the operative does something dangerous they can say they were trained. Worse still is that the organisation that supposedly maintains electrical certification standards (the Joint Industry Board) is happily joining in. Meanwhile the level of politics associated with these high profile organisations means that it's becoming stiflingly hard to do your trade if your a real time served tradesman. Red tape and worthless but enforced "skill update courses" have cost me over 1000 UKP ($2000) this year in "classes" and lost wages to attend them. Guess why I'm looking at emigration at the moment. I was cleaning up someone else's mess today in fact. I guess that somewhere along the line the three phase supply to a winch had been rewired and the direction had changed. It was hard to tell since the guy who had attempted to fix it had swapped up/down button wiring, then found the limits weren't working so had dabbled a bit, then wires popped out and the second remote was going up instead of down and then he did a runner. -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1509.205.215.255.219.1158940279.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 08:51:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Close to home... From: "Bill Nelson" > Recently, there was a job posting for "Maintenance" in my school district. > Here are the Duties/Responsibilities. Check out all the electrical > duties, > and also the education required. Tell me the likelihood of finding a > person who's masterful at ALL of these things. I could do a lot of it, but not all. Nor am I "masterful" in any of them. But there is no way I would consider it at that pay scale. Double it and I might be interested. Bill ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Jay O. Glerum LDI rigging Seminar Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:29:10 -0700 Message-ID: <44FC1DD5E9E93D4F9D4C289DF28F7C3F0ED24B [at] thinkwellsbs.ThinkWell.corp> From: "Michael Finney" On 9/21/06 3:06 PM, "Bill Sapsis" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- >=20 > Jay does an excellent job. He's been around the block more than once or > twice and his sessions reflect his experiences. He has plenty of > information packed into the day as well as lots of stories and stuff. For > you theatre riggers out there, his session would be the place to be. >=20 > Now, for you arena folks, I trust you are aware that I, along with my good > friend Eddie Raymond, are also doing a session at LDI. It's an all day > affair on Wednesday 10/18. I believe they are limiting the class to 50 > people so, if you're interested in attending you might not want to wait too > long. And no, I do not know how much the session costs, but I do believe > you will get your money's worth. I definitely second Bills comments re: Jay's class. And getting a session with both Bill and Eddie is going to be well worth the price of admission! Is it my imagination, or does LDI seem to have a particularly decent range of educational offerings this year? Hey Herrick - where's the drinking happening? =20 Michael Finney Thinkwell Design & Production mfinney [at] thinkwelldesign.com www.thinkwelldesign.com=20 ------------------------------ From: MartySrq [at] aol.com Message-ID: <456.646833b.32456a6b [at] aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 12:33:47 EDT Subject: Re: Jay O. Glerum LDI rigging Seminar Greg Persinger wrote: Greetings, Has anyone on the list ever attended a rigging seminar that Jay O. Glerum has presented? What did you think? I attended a shortened version last year and found it very worthwhile. Marty ------------------------------ From: "JUSTIN DAVID BENNETT" Subject: RE: Teacher curriculum Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 11:37:59 -0500 Message-ID: <000b01c6de65$772626d0$1a0f150a [at] spc.ad.root> In-Reply-To: This is a long one... How high is the enrollment in the Teacher Cert. program? Can you craft classes specifically for these individuals or is their pressure to keep them in standard classes to ensure that classes "make" or to not overload a faculty member? This will greatly impact how you must proceed. I suppose the first question would be what are they required to teach at the high school level. As I understand it, this is usually several sections of acting and several sections of technical theatre. So they have to minimally be taught how to teach those things. The problem is that a little bit of knowledge can be a very dangerous thing. If people are completely ignorant, they will usually ask for help. If they know enough to 'know what they don't know' they will usually ask for help. If they only know a little they may get someone killed. I feel like as a collective of creative people we usually focus on the 'can' aspects, but often neglect the 'can nots' or more accurately 'should not without proper training(s)'. The summation of this point is try to make sure that future teachers, who will likely not receive any further formal training, are very clear about their boundaries. As they will no doubt be directing shows, teachers should know how to direct and 'play well with others'. I think the collaboration course is a great idea. I feel like acting 3 may be a bit much, but directing 2 and creative dramatics are probably good. Movement... isn't this covered in acting and/or directing? If technical stuff can be grouped together, so can performance. You probably need two stagecraft classes (and the design 1 class). I'd plug makeup into costume construction if you need more space. Also, if you can think about making one stagecraft be freshman level and one be senior level. This way the stuff is fairly fresh in their minds when they leave you. It will also afford them a few years to realize why they need to know this stuff. All too often the theatre teacher is also the technical director. They need to know a lot more to be a TD than most people appreciate, and will run into a great deal more trouble not knowing the difference between the black and white wire than if they don't remember the difference between Greek and Roman theatre. Maybe the technical direction course should be added. I didn't tabulate the hour breakdown, so I don't know how I may have wrenched your machinery. I'm going to vote again for practicum classes. There is no substitute for participating in real productions, and they are usually one hour each. Maybe you do this already and I missed it. All of this said, the reality is most likely that these decisions will be motivated by how this program can fit into the institution, and not being familiar with your institution or the curriculum of the aforementioned classes, my comments come packaged with a grain of salt. Justin Bennett Technical Director / Theatre Manager St. Philip's College - Watson Fine Arts Center jbennett43 [at] mail.accd.edu (210) 531-4706 Office (210) 531-4768 Fax -----Original Message----- From: Philip Johnson Subject: Re: Teacher curriculum With teacher cert, I am asking what courses should we be teaching to future teachers. Here's what we do. Acting 1 & 2 Directing 1 Script analysis Voice and Diction Makeup Costume Construction Stagecraft Theatre History 1 [at] 2 Colleagues want Movement creative dramatics Acting 3 Directing 2 I had to create 2 courses to supplement this. 1. principles of Design, - Really a design 1 course but has to cover Set, lighting and costume 2. Collaboration - Adv design. We form design teams and each student rotates through each duty. Mixed class of designer, technicians, actors and directors And that is the teacher cert program as it stands. The question is, how do you squeeze enough courses into a limit amount of hours? What are other people doing? Any help appreciated and I am sorry for the long post. -- Philip Johnson Professor of Theatre Texas A&M University-Corpus Christi ------------------------------ Message-ID: <011a01c6de6f$d3b071d0$e28aaa43 [at] DonTaco> From: "Don Taco" References: Subject: Re: age, memory, and that website Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:52:01 -0700 Doesn't one of you roustabouts maintain a valuable website and collection of articles and links that is primarily focussed on technical aspects of high school theater? I wanted to show it to someone recently, and, *sigh*, I am drawing a complete blank on the name associated with it. Wanna fess up? I'll gladly accept more than one correct answer. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <7cd95e180609221107p5fcdb127gc48c5511348fb450 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 14:07:49 -0400 From: "Mike Katz" Subject: Alan Symonds Memorial Change of Date Alan Symonds, Technical Director at the Harvard University Office for the Arts, passed away last Spring. For any of us who were planning on attending his memorial, please note, Harvard has changed the date of his memorial to Monday November 13 at 3:00 PM at the Agassiz Theater in Radcliffe Yard. For more information, please email ofa [at] fas.harvard.edu or call 617.495.8676. -- Mike Katz Technical Director MIT Theater Arts 617.253.0824 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <003801c6de73$08a1bae0$6401a8c0 [at] amd2200> From: "Idaho Scenic & Rigging" References: Subject: Re: Jay O. Glerum LDI rigging Seminar Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 12:15:06 -0600 (dials way back machine) I did a week long "seminar" with Jay and Doom presiding, CM reps, and others, in '91 in Denver. I walked away with a different point of view. Safety, Equipment, working knowledge. Well worth the money. Rob't ----- Original Message ----- From: > Has anyone on the list ever attended a rigging seminar that Jay O. Glerum > has presented? > > What did you think? > > I attended a shortened version last year and found it very worthwhile. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 15:48:15 -0500 Subject: Re: Jay O. Glerum LDI rigging Seminar From: Greg Persinger Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Thanks for all of the feedback. I have booked my travel and signed up for the course. Now if UPS could find the book that I ordered. I will report back after LDI. Thanks. Greg Persinger ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References:

Message-Id: <9C8A5160-5E61-4970-9233-FC7E795D4CA1 [at] rochester.rr.com> From: Bruce Purdy Subject: Re: age, memory, and that website Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 19:43:20 -0400 On 22 Sep 2006, at 13:52, Don Taco wrote: > Doesn't one of you roustabouts maintain a valuable website and > collection of articles and links that is primarily focussed on > technical aspects of high school theater? I wanted to show it to > someone recently, and, *sigh*, I am drawing a complete blank on the > name associated with it. Wanna fess up? I'll gladly accept more > than one correct answer. Scott Parker's excellent site is: http://www.hstech.org Bruce ____________________ Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2504.205.215.255.219.1158970622.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 17:17:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Sound board for a theatre From: "Bill Nelson" > Take a look at the yamaha MG range, they have a 24 channel board for $899 > http://www.worldmusicsupply.com/pro-audio/audio-mixers/Yamaha/MG24-14FX.asp Thanks for the suggestion. This sounds like a more reachable goal. It might even be possible to get the 36 channel version at a bit over $1000. > I haven't use one of these, but had a good look over one of them at an > exhibition, and > they look reasonably solidly built to me. Certainly inspires more > confidence than than the Mackie and Behringer equivalents. Has anyone on the list had experience with Yamaha boards of about this size? Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4514933A.2000601 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 21:51:54 -0400 From: Dale farmer Subject: Re: Driving a truck in Manhattan References:

In-Reply-To: SS wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> G-damn Manhattan drivers cut me off and > forced me to drive across the same bridge four times when I was trying > to escape back to the relative sanity and safety of New Jersey.<<<< > > Ah, quite being a wuss. > :) > > Out of curiousity, how did you go over the bridge four times? Once you > were over once you should've been NOT in your original locale anymore? > > First time I've ever heard those words..."relative sanity and safety > of New Jersey". > Are you sure? > :) :) > > It was many years ago, so my memory has mercifully faded. I was in Brooklyn to drop off a radio that I had borrowed from a friend. She had given me excellent directions on getting to her place coming up from the south. Including things like 'Get into the left lane at [location] so you will be able to make the turn onto whatever street. I was continuing northward towards Boston, and she gave me directions that were much more terse. I was traveling up a road that ran along a river, and before I realized it, half the lanes of the road turned into offramp that took me across some bridge into manhatten, I think. It was also at night and raining, so reading signs while driving safely was a bit harder. On the other side of the river, I manage to get turned around and crose back over on the same bridge. (second time) SInce I wanted to turn left, I was in the left lane looking for a left turn, and the exit I really wanted was on the right. So I'm partially lost in Brooklyn, I think. After some wandering around, I recognize one of the landmarks from the drive in from the south, and retrace my path. Traveling up that riverside road, I try to get onto the lanes that don't cross the bridge, but traffic is so dense and rude that I'm unable to get over in time, and over the bridge I go for crossing number three. Coming back I mentally say to hell with trying the short route, and follow the reverse of my original directions, after, of course crossing back on the same bridge to get back to someplace that was on my directions. No, I didn't have a mapbook, and wasnt' going to buy one for my only drive into NYC that wasn't just following I95. It was a few months after this that my car broke down on the cross-bronx expressway one night, and while I was looking under the hood with my flashlight to try and figure out the problem, I realize that someone else had just opened the trunk of my car. That's when I resolved to never, ever drive in NYC again. I was still in the navy then, so I guess it would have been 1991ish. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4514A773.5040508 [at] sbcglobal.net> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 22:18:11 -0500 From: Shawn Palmer Subject: Re: Sound board for a theatre References:

In-Reply-To: > Has anyone on the list had experience with Yamaha boards of about this size? > > Bill I've used one (a Yamaha MG) fairly extensively over the past six months. It is a decent board at that price point. My favorite console at that pp is the Allen and Heath Mix Wizard. My humble opinion would be that the Allen and Heath is a better console. I'd skip the Behringer/Mackie/Tapco stuff myself, at all possible costs. If your heart is set on the MG, though, go for it. I've had no problems with it. I merely think the A and H sounds better. FWIW Shawn Palmer Appleton, WI USA ------------------------------ From: megironda [at] att.net (Gerry G.) Subject: Re: Sound board for a theatre Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 04:35:56 +0000 Message-Id: <092320060435.17903.4514B9AC000202AF000045EF21602807410E0B02019D07090A03 [at] att.net> IMHO, Yamaha MG series doesn't sound good , I just plain don't like it. Used them on 3 different gigs couldn't wait till it was over. Mix Wizard, good sound, doesn't have enough channels. The Mackie VLZ pro at 16 true mic channels and 4 busses in a 19" rack mount is the swiss army knife for sound. Very fashionable to bash it these days and there were and are vulnerabilities but for "We're on a tight budget" They can do the job and you don't have to mix on the dreaded "B*^%# [at] (ger". Gerry G. -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Shawn Palmer > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > > Has anyone on the list had experience with Yamaha boards of about this size? > > > > Bill > > I've used one (a Yamaha MG) fairly extensively over the past six months. > It is a decent board at that price point. My favorite console at that > pp is the Allen and Heath Mix Wizard. My humble opinion would be that > the Allen and Heath is a better console. I'd skip the > Behringer/Mackie/Tapco stuff myself, at all possible costs. > > If your heart is set on the MG, though, go for it. I've had no problems > with it. I merely think the A and H sounds better. > > FWIW > Shawn Palmer > Appleton, WI > USA > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4514BE79.2000607 [at] sbcglobal.net> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 23:56:25 -0500 From: Shawn Palmer Subject: Re: Sound board for a theatre References: In-Reply-To: Gerry G. wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > IMHO, Yamaha MG series doesn't sound good , I just plain don't like it. > Used them on 3 different gigs couldn't wait till it was over. Mix > Wizard, good sound, doesn't have enough channels. The Mackie VLZ pro > at 16 true mic channels and 4 busses in a 19" rack mount is the swiss > army knife for sound. Very fashionable to bash it these days and > there were and are vulnerabilities but for "We're on a tight budget" > They can do the job and you don't have to mix on the dreaded > "B*^%# [at] (ger". > Gerry G. Very good points. However, I won't personally trust a Mackie again after three catastrophic failures on two consoles- during shows. After a point fairly early on vibrational maintenance wouldn't work. I have learned my lesson. It took three times, but... To be fair the usage was quite heavy. Not thrown in the back of a truck and frozen daily, but moved once every four-five weeks and on for 8 hours at a time, six days a week. The power supplies never failed. And you can't swap out a fader, of course. Different strokes for different folks, certainly. The A and H Mix Wizard 16:2 has 16 XLR or line inputs. No groups. Six aux sends. Four band EQ. Sounds great at that price point. If I were buying a console at this price and size it would be the Allen and Heath, unless I had to have the 24 channels. The Yamaha MG also will cost $100 less if price is REALLY an issue. YMMV Shawn Palmer Appleton, WI USA ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1160.205.215.253.28.1158988200.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 22:10:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Sound board for a theatre From: "Bill Nelson" >> Wizard, good sound, doesn't have enough channels. The Mackie VLZ pro >> at 16 true mic channels and 4 busses in a 19" rack mount is the swiss >> army knife for sound. 4 sends is not enough, I already have that on our A&H board. > The A and H Mix Wizard 16:2 has 16 XLR or line inputs. No groups. Six > aux sends. Four band EQ. Sounds great at that price point. If I were > buying a console at this price and size it would be the Allen and Heath, > unless I had to have the 24 channels. The Yamaha MG also will cost $100 > less if price is REALLY an issue. I don't really need groups, although they would be nice. 6 aux sends MIGHT work as a bare minimum, if they are all independent and not 1 or 2 plus 3 or 4 plus 5 or 6. Also, 16 XLR plus 2 stereo channels is a bare minimum, I can envision needing more. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1169.205.215.253.28.1158988942.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 22:22:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Sound board for a theatre From: "Bill Nelson" > If your heart is set on the MG, though, go for it. I've had no problems > with it. I merely think the A and H sounds better. I don't have my heart set on any board, but my limit is probably about $1000. I need at least 16 mike/line mono inputs - 24 would be better - and at least 2 stereo channels. I need at least 6, and preferably 8 or more, independent monitors with enough aux sends that I can send any of the inputs to any or all of the monitors. I need main outs and some arrangement for rear of house as well. It may not be possible with what can be spent - although the MG looks like it might do it. I will have to download the manuals to find out. Bill ------------------------------ From: "Joel Harari" Subject: RE: sound guy boot camp Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 02:38:10 -0700 Message-ID: <000601c6def3$fb931f20$6401a8c0 [at] Tigger> In-Reply-To: Keep in mind this is for high school and a "day" is about 45 - 50 min of usable time :) Day 1: Signal Flow - input to output Day 2: Mic vs. Line; Balanced vs. Unbalanced; Audio connectors Non-audio day minus a 15 min review of the fist 2 days Day 3: Mechanics of Speakers & Mics; Types of Mics Day 4: Trouble shooting and routing (aux/subgroups) Weekend, and not a moment too soon Day 5: 15 min review of Days 1-4 & start on console Day 6: Finish in depth console tour Day 7&8 Quick reviews before other projects/tasks Day 9 (Friday) Test both written and PRACTICAL This format is slightly modified from previous years (my curriculum rewrite was my summer project) we'll see how it goes Joel Harari Western High School ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #960 *****************************