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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #964

 1. Re: Close to home...
    by Bruce Purdy <bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
 2. Re: Just totally gay dude!
    by Kevin Lee Allen <klad [at] klad.com>
 3. Re: rigging from the grid...
    by "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>
 4. The quest for safe snow
    by "Jonathan Zitelman" <jzstagecraft [at] gmail.com>
 5. Sad News
    by b Ricie <b_ricie [at] yahoo.com>
 6. Re: Sad News
    by Kevin Lee Allen <klad [at] klad.com>
 7. Re: Just totally gay dude!
    by Clive Mitchell <bigclive1 [at] ntlworld.com>
 8. Re: Cue lights/ mini-mag re fit
    by Mark Harvey <mharvey [at] d.umn.edu>
 9. Re: The quest for safe snow
    by "Joel Harari" <harari_j [at] adelphia.net>
10. Wireless mics
    by "Jeffrey Kanyuck" <JKanyuck [at] Harford.edu>
11. Fwd: Patrick: An Update on Plans for Honoring His Life
    by Kevin Lee Allen <klad [at] klad.com>
12. Re: The quest for safe snow
    by Clive Mitchell <bigclive1 [at] ntlworld.com>
13. Re: Close to home...
    by Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
14. Re: The quest for safe snow
    by "deziner [at] theatreinthepark.com" <deziner [at] theatreinthepark.com>
15. Re: The quest for safe snow
    by Clive Mitchell <bigclive1 [at] ntlworld.com>
16. Re: The quest for safe snow
    by "deziner [at] theatreinthepark.com" <deziner [at] theatreinthepark.com>
17. Re: The quest for safe snow
    by "Joel Harari" <harari_j [at] adelphia.net>
18. Re: The quest for safe snow
    by "Jonathan Zitelman" <jzstagecraft [at] gmail.com>
19. Re: The quest for safe snow
    by "Idaho Scenic & Rigging" <idahoscenic [at] earthlink.net>

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From: Bruce Purdy <bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Close to home...
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 06:36:28 -0400


On 26 Sep 2006, at 03:57, Bill Nelson wrote:

> I would not hope/wish that on anyone, even the idiot do bypassed the
> safeties. But I hope that people will never trust interlocks - and  
> unplug
> the instrument before working on it. Microswitches can, and do, fail
> closed.

	Which ties in to my argument that safety switches on what otherwise  
is a simple design light fixture is an attempt to "Idiot proof" the  
fixture - and any such attempt simply leads to more idiots. Newer &  
younger workers will come along thinking they are "safe" not  
unplugging the unit because it has a safety switch. Such a switch is  
NO substitute for actually unplugging the unit!

Bruce
____________________
Bruce Purdy
Technical Director
Smith Opera House




------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 07:44:44 -0400
From: Kevin Lee Allen <klad [at] klad.com>
Subject: Re: Just totally gay dude!
In-reply-to: <list-35418763 [at] prxy.net>
Message-id: <369BBE24-4536-47F7-B1A2-7D7BF92F60C2 [at] klad.com>
References: <list-35418763 [at] prxy.net>

I think the only appropriate response is FABULOUS!


On Sep 25, 2006, at 9:50 PM, Clive Mitchell wrote:

> And here it is.....  If you like your musicals then click the  
> bottom right hand icon in the video for a larger version and turn  
> up the volume.  It gains tempo as it goes on.


-----
Kevin Lee Allen
Architect of Dreams
http://www.klad.com
973.744.6352.voice
201.280.3841.mobile
klad [at] klad.com




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Subject: RE: rigging from the grid...
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 09:16:39 -0400
Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A064F0C5E [at] exchange.rmwc.edu>
In-Reply-To: <list-35420597 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>

> >  One of my work-study students (with whom I'm sharing some fairly =20
> > quality time onstage--yes!--in our fall production) is nicknamed =20
> > Mouse.  Rumor has it that when I mention "mousing" shackles=20
> and the =20
> > like that it has something to do with her...
>=20
>=20
> Wouldn't that be "shackling mouse," and not "mousing a shackle?"
>=20
> (walking away, whistling)

You are a dirty, dirty old man. :)

Nah, homie don't play that game.  But last spring when I mentioned
"mousing" in the shop there was one person who thought it was something
she used to do to them and that we just kinda referred to it that way
because of Mouse.

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Message-ID: <d73a4ea30609260759j3709a18aj53076c28326215e9 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 09:59:47 -0500
From: "Jonathan Zitelman" <jzstagecraft [at] gmail.com>
Subject: The quest for safe snow

Hey all!  It's been a while since I've posted and it feels good to be
back.  I've tried searching the archives but was having problems and I
haven't found any information pertaining to the following in the
backlog of digests I keep saved.

I am currently looking at the options for creating a fake snow effect
over the apron of the stage for an end of the year choir concert.  The
first thought that came to mind was the use of snow machines in the
truss work of the building, but the choir will be wearing velvet robes
and even the possibility of damage to the robes is unacceptable.  I've
been trying to think up a shifting gutter system, kind of like a sift,
filled with iridescent confetti or possibly expanded polystyrene beads
(although I fear the EPS may present a inhalation health hazard).  Any
suggestions on this method?  Diagram or instructions on how to make
something like this would be greatly appreciated, if this seems to be
the preferred route.

There will be multiple performances, so ease of cleanup (and possible
reuse) becomes a big factor.


Jonathan Zitelman =86
Auditorium Technical Director
Texas Lutheran University

------------------------------

Message-ID: <20060926151421.90604.qmail [at] web50612.mail.yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 08:14:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: b Ricie <b_ricie [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: Sad News
In-Reply-To: <list-35431064 [at] prxy.net>


This information might be more for you equity stage
managers out there.
Patrick Quinn passed away this last Sunday due to a
major coronary. Patrick had just given up his acting
career to become CEO of equity. This all happened a
few weeks ago, if that long. I had the pleasure of
watching Patrick act his Swan Song, also just a few
short weeks ago. Patrick was a joy to work with a
commanding talent on stage, and I am sure would have
been nothing but good for equity. He will be missed.

Brian Rice 
508-685-0716
b_ricie [at] yahoo.com
"Blessed are the cracked: For it is they who let in the 
light."

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
http://mail.yahoo.com 

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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 11:22:00 -0400
From: Kevin Lee Allen <klad [at] klad.com>
Subject: Re: Sad News
In-reply-to: <list-35442917 [at] prxy.net>
Message-id: <7EE3CB56-9A33-44E9-920B-752C387CDC4C [at] klad.com>
References: <list-35431064 [at] prxy.net> <list-35442917 [at] prxy.net>

a former Kenley Player.

and far too young.


On Sep 26, 2006, at 11:14 AM, b Ricie wrote:

> Patrick Quinn passed away this last Sunday due to a
> major coronary. Patrick had just given up his acting
> career to become CEO of equity. This all happened a
> few weeks ago, if that long. I had the pleasure of
> watching Patrick act his Swan Song, also just a few
> short weeks ago. Patrick was a joy to work with a
> commanding talent on stage, and I am sure would have
> been nothing but good for equity. He will be missed.


-----
Kevin Lee Allen
Architect of Dreams
http://www.klad.com
973.744.6352.voice
201.280.3841.mobile
klad [at] klad.com




------------------------------

Message-ID: <ZaMjUVCADVGFFwsE [at] ntlworld.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:09:36 +0100
From: Clive Mitchell <bigclive1 [at] ntlworld.com>
Subject: Re: Just totally gay dude!
References: <list-35418763 [at] prxy.net> <list-35434888 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-35434888 [at] prxy.net>

In message <list-35434888 [at] prxy.net>, Kevin Lee Allen <klad [at] klad.com> 
writes
>I think the only appropriate response is FABULOUS!

Yes indeed.  Now where can I get a copy of the full resolution original. 
:)

-- 
Clive Mitchell
http://www.bigclive.com

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 11:28:10 -0500
From: Mark Harvey <mharvey [at] d.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: Cue lights/ mini-mag re fit
Message-ID: <CD0B89C463E413D3AF2E3DDC [at] mharvey.d.umn.edu>
In-Reply-To: <list-35431064 [at] prxy.net>
References:  <list-35431064 [at] prxy.net>

Another web site worth looking at for new flashlight innovations is the 
Keystone Country Store at 
<http://www.keystonecountrystore.com/Lights.html>

I particularly appreciate the IM Master Vision G2 
<http://www.keystonecountrystore.com/Lights/IM_Master_Vision_G2_White_Light/Page_1/LIG2666506.html> 
though I have yet to figure out a useful application for the strobe 
feature.

____________________________________
Mark Harvey, Associate Professor Lighting and Sound Design
Department of Theatre
University of Minnesota Duluth
http://www.d.umn.edu/~mharvey

------------------------------

From: "Joel Harari" <harari_j [at] adelphia.net>
Subject: RE: The quest for safe snow
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 10:49:44 -0700
Message-ID: <000101c6e194$26ea3350$6401a8c0 [at] Tigger>
In-Reply-To: <list-35442455 [at] prxy.net>

I work with hundreds of those snow machine at a amusement park in
Anaheim,CA. The "snow" is 30% shampoo and the rest is water, and some
rubbing alcohol works well for killing the bubbles. The reason I'm =
telling
you this is it may not affect the robes, especially if they are scotch
guarded.=20

Also on the machines we use, we dial down the bubble size so they all
pop/dissipate by time they reach the ground.

Just an FYI

Joel Harari
=20

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of =
Jonathan
Zitelman
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 8:00 AM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: The quest for safe snow

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---------------------------------------------------

Hey all!  It's been a while since I've posted and it feels good to be
back.  I've tried searching the archives but was having problems and I
haven't found any information pertaining to the following in the
backlog of digests I keep saved.

I am currently looking at the options for creating a fake snow effect
over the apron of the stage for an end of the year choir concert.  The
first thought that came to mind was the use of snow machines in the
truss work of the building, but the choir will be wearing velvet robes
and even the possibility of damage to the robes is unacceptable.  I've
been trying to think up a shifting gutter system, kind of like a sift,
filled with iridescent confetti or possibly expanded polystyrene beads
(although I fear the EPS may present a inhalation health hazard).  Any
suggestions on this method?  Diagram or instructions on how to make
something like this would be greatly appreciated, if this seems to be
the preferred route.

There will be multiple performances, so ease of cleanup (and possible
reuse) becomes a big factor.


Jonathan Zitelman =86
Auditorium Technical Director
Texas Lutheran University



------------------------------

Message-Id: <s51930a6.043 [at] gwia.harford.edu>
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 13:52:32 -0400
From: "Jeffrey Kanyuck" <JKanyuck [at] Harford.edu>
Subject: Wireless mics

Hello all,
    I'm looking at the ACT Wireless mic systems.
I'm curious if anyone out there is using them and to the durability and
stability of the units.
    I'm specifically looking at the ACT-707T beltpacks with the
appropriate rack unit receivers.

Jeff Kanyuck

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 16:02:55 -0400
From: Kevin Lee Allen <klad [at] klad.com>
Subject: Fwd: Patrick: An Update on Plans for Honoring His Life
Message-id: <26E6EDD2-ADCE-4EBC-B1D1-3035265BD61A [at] klad.com>
References: <3A1640E4381EC443A8DE3EF6B13542150468D7BB [at] prcex.reedsmith.com>


	Tonight at precisely 8pm, Broadway marquees will be dimmed for a
minute in honor of Patrick Quinn.  Many of us will not be in NY to see
this all-too-brief but nonetheless meaningful recognition of Patrick's
contributions, but, perhaps we will all find our own way at that time to
stop what we are doing -- eating? reading? commuting? performing? -- and
thank him for what he gave to us individually and as an industry.
	If you have not already seen the tributes in yesterday's "New
York Times" (where Patrick shared the page with a 107 year old woman who
ran the Coast Guard.) and on Equity's
website (actorsequity.org).
	Also on the Equity website is a description of the funeral
arrangements.  A Mass will be said at Our Lady of Mount Carmel in
Doylestown, PA at 11am on Friday (235 East State St; 215.348.4190 for
directions).  In lieu of flowers, it is asked that donations be made to
the Actors' Equity Foundation, BC/EFA or the Actors' Fund of America.
Equity's website also states that a New York memorial service will be
held at a later date.



-----
Kevin Lee Allen
Architect of Dreams
http://www.klad.com
973.744.6352.voice
201.280.3841.mobile
klad [at] klad.com




------------------------------

Message-ID: <JWLnn0FcrYGFFw+9 [at] ntlworld.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 21:17:32 +0100
From: Clive Mitchell <bigclive1 [at] ntlworld.com>
Subject: Re: The quest for safe snow
References: <list-35442455 [at] prxy.net> <list-35448449 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-35448449 [at] prxy.net>

In message <list-35448449 [at] prxy.net>, Joel Harari <harari_j [at] adelphia.net> 
writes
>I work with hundreds of those snow machine at a amusement park in 
>Anaheim,CA. The "snow" is 30% shampoo and the rest is water, and some 
>rubbing alcohol works well for killing the bubbles. The reason I'm 
>telling you this is it may not affect the robes, especially if they are 
>scotch guarded.

That's quite a lot of shampoo.  I used at most 5-10% baby foam bath. 
The rubbing alcohol (isopropyl alcohol and water) actually thickens the 
mouse of bubbles for some reason.  If you try the foam without the 
alcohol it will be wetter, while with the alcohol it's much creamier.

The isopropyl alcohol may also help speed up the evaporation of the foam 
once it's landed.


What sort of percentage of the rubbing alcohol did you add to the fluid?

-- 
Clive Mitchell
http://www.bigclive.com

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 16:22:11 -0400
From: Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
Subject: Re: Close to home...
In-reply-to: <list-35413665 [at] prxy.net>
Message-id: <7.0.1.0.0.20060926162152.01cace90 [at] interstellar.com>
References: <list-35413665 [at] prxy.net>

At 11:40 AM 9/25/2006, CB wrote:
>SHOOT!  I just left Barefoot Coffee Roasters, I wish I had done that math
>in my head before I rolled in.

That's ok, I'm in Maine.  :)


-- 
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.  www.interstellar.com
219 Oak Wood Way, Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA
tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886
Skype:  jerrydurand


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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 16:52:59 -0400
Subject: Re: The quest for safe snow
From: "deziner [at] theatreinthepark.com" <deziner [at] theatreinthepark.com>
Message-ID: <C13F0B6B.F527%deziner [at] theatreinthepark.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-35453779 [at] prxy.net>

mouse or mousse?

Steve

> From: Clive Mitchell <bigclive1 [at] ntlworld.com>
> Reply-To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 21:17:32 +0100
> To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
> Subject: Re: The quest for safe snow


 actually thickens the
> mouse of bubbles for some reason.  


------------------------------

Message-ID: <TXrxnYHcaZGFFwMx [at] ntlworld.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 22:07:40 +0100
From: Clive Mitchell <bigclive1 [at] ntlworld.com>
Subject: Re: The quest for safe snow
References: <list-35453779 [at] prxy.net> <list-35455221 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-35455221 [at] prxy.net>

In message <list-35455221 [at] prxy.net>, "deziner [at] theatreinthepark.com" 
<deziner [at] theatreinthepark.com> writes
>mouse or mousse?

Sorry it's mousse.  The mouse escaped from Davie Dimmers mouse canon 
which he designed to create a feeling of heightened tension in female 
audiences.  Rather tragically the first batch of 400 mice all died 
rather unexpectedly when he failed to set the regulator on the dump tank 
and blew the entire load of mice into the back wall of the auditorium in 
a large clump.

It took us ages to pick them all out the ornate plasterwork.

-- 
Clive Mitchell
http://www.bigclive.com

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:29:35 -0400
Subject: Re: The quest for safe snow
From: "deziner [at] theatreinthepark.com" <deziner [at] theatreinthepark.com>
Message-ID: <C13F13FF.F52A%deziner [at] theatreinthepark.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-35455715 [at] prxy.net>

Good grief.  Glad I wasn't anywhere near that
mess.

Steve

> From: Clive Mitchell <bigclive1 [at] ntlworld.com>
> Reply-To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 22:07:40 +0100
> To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
> Subject: Re: The quest for safe snow
> 
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> In message <list-35455221 [at] prxy.net>, "deziner [at] theatreinthepark.com"
> <deziner [at] theatreinthepark.com> writes
>> mouse or mousse?
> 
> Sorry it's mousse.  The mouse escaped from Davie Dimmers mouse canon
> which he designed to create a feeling of heightened tension in female
> audiences.  Rather tragically the first batch of 400 mice all died
> rather unexpectedly when he failed to set the regulator on the dump tank
> and blew the entire load of mice into the back wall of the auditorium in
> a large clump.
> 
> It took us ages to pick them all out the ornate plasterwork.
> 
> -- 
> Clive Mitchell
> http://www.bigclive.com


------------------------------

From: "Joel Harari" <harari_j [at] adelphia.net>
Subject: RE: The quest for safe snow
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 16:42:25 -0700
Message-ID: <000301c6e1c5$6bdf6fd0$6401a8c0 [at] Tigger>
In-Reply-To: <list-35453779 [at] prxy.net>

Sorry, the isopropyl is used to "kill" bubble and for cleaning the machines.

The mixture comes to us in "oil drums" and yes it is a lot shampoo and $$ of
course now you know why the park is so expensive:)

Joel

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Clive
Mitchell
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 1:18 PM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: The quest for safe snow

For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

In message <list-35448449 [at] prxy.net>, Joel Harari <harari_j [at] adelphia.net> 
writes
>I work with hundreds of those snow machine at a amusement park in 
>Anaheim,CA. The "snow" is 30% shampoo and the rest is water, and some 
>rubbing alcohol works well for killing the bubbles. The reason I'm 
>telling you this is it may not affect the robes, especially if they are 
>scotch guarded.

That's quite a lot of shampoo.  I used at most 5-10% baby foam bath. 
The rubbing alcohol (isopropyl alcohol and water) actually thickens the 
mouse of bubbles for some reason.  If you try the foam without the 
alcohol it will be wetter, while with the alcohol it's much creamier.

The isopropyl alcohol may also help speed up the evaporation of the foam 
once it's landed.


What sort of percentage of the rubbing alcohol did you add to the fluid?

-- 
Clive Mitchell
http://www.bigclive.com



------------------------------

Message-ID: <d73a4ea30609261825w366d9efaoeffb547a59f3f117 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 20:25:43 -0500
From: "Jonathan Zitelman" <jzstagecraft [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: The quest for safe snow
In-Reply-To: <list-35460933 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-35453779 [at] prxy.net> <list-35460933 [at] prxy.net>

The safety of the snow machines is still suspect.  I know the robes
aren't scotchgarded as suggested.  I was also thinking that the
overall effect would be greater with "snow" actually landing on the
robes.

-JZ


On 9/26/06, Joel Harari <harari_j [at] adelphia.net> wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> Sorry, the isopropyl is used to "kill" bubble and for cleaning the machines.
>
> The mixture comes to us in "oil drums" and yes it is a lot shampoo and $$ of
> course now you know why the park is so expensive:)
>
> Joel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Clive
> Mitchell
> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 1:18 PM
> To: Stagecraft
> Subject: Re: The quest for safe snow
>
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> In message <list-35448449 [at] prxy.net>, Joel Harari <harari_j [at] adelphia.net>
> writes
> >I work with hundreds of those snow machine at a amusement park in
> >Anaheim,CA. The "snow" is 30% shampoo and the rest is water, and some
> >rubbing alcohol works well for killing the bubbles. The reason I'm
> >telling you this is it may not affect the robes, especially if they are
> >scotch guarded.
>
> That's quite a lot of shampoo.  I used at most 5-10% baby foam bath.
> The rubbing alcohol (isopropyl alcohol and water) actually thickens the
> mouse of bubbles for some reason.  If you try the foam without the
> alcohol it will be wetter, while with the alcohol it's much creamier.
>
> The isopropyl alcohol may also help speed up the evaporation of the foam
> once it's landed.
>
>
> What sort of percentage of the rubbing alcohol did you add to the fluid?
>
> --
> Clive Mitchell
> http://www.bigclive.com
>
>
>

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Message-ID: <003d01c6e204$dd290f40$6401a8c0 [at] amd2200>
From: "Idaho Scenic & Rigging" <idahoscenic [at] earthlink.net>
References: <list-35453779 [at] prxy.net> <list-35455221 [at] prxy.net> <list-35455715 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: The quest for safe snow
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 01:16:34 -0600

----- Original Message ----- 
>Rather tragically the first batch of 400 mice all died
>rather unexpectedly when he failed to set the regulator on the dump
tank
>and blew the entire load of mice into the back wall of the auditorium
in
>a large clump.
>
>It took us ages to pick them all out the ornate plasterwork.

>From: "Clive Mitchell" <bigclive1 [at] ntlworld.com>



I am still laughing at the visual.
fine tweezers at work picking parts and pieces.
Davy should banned from every thing 'cept lighting.

Did the mice cause ro-dents in the plasterwork?

Just curious, What is the (adjusted) psi for a mouse to fly?
Rob't


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