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X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 35568109; Fri, 29 Sep 2006 03:02:36 -0700 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,EMPTY_MESSAGE, NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=no version=3.1.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on localhost X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #966 Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 03:01:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #966 1. Re: The quest for safe snow by "Joel Harari" 2. Idiot-proof by Paul Marsland 3. Re: Gridbits and Rabbit Ears by Loren Schreiber 4. Re: Gridbits and Rabbit Ears by "Storms, Randy" 5. Re: Gridbits and Rabbit Ears by "Delbert Hall" 6. Re: The quest for safe snow by Jerry Durand 7. Re: The quest for safe snow by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 8. TTI Dimmer issue.. by "Jason Cowperthwaite" 9. Re: TTI Dimmer issue.. by Ford Sellers 10. Re: TTI Dimmer issue.. by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 11. Re: TTI Dimmer issue.. by Clive Mitchell 12. Re: TTI Dimmer issue.. by "Jason Cowperthwaite" 13. Re: TTI Dimmer issue.. by "Chris Warner" 14. Re: TTI Dimmer issue.. by "Bill Nelson" 15. Re: TTI Dimmer issue.. by "Bill Nelson" 16. Safe Snow by "Potter, Chase R" 17. Re: Safe Snow by "Delbert Hall" 18. Outdoor Sound Systems by "Gregg Carville" 19. Re: TTI Dimmer issue.. by Jerry Durand 20. Re: ENR/Colortran Viewpoint Manual by Andrew Vance 21. Heading to London by "Ehrenberg, Steven" 22. Re: Outdoor Sound Systems by Brian James 23. Re: The quest for safe snow by "Matt Pumplin" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Joel Harari" Subject: RE: The quest for safe snow Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 06:07:25 -0700 Message-ID: <000301c6e2ff$0b106700$6401a8c0 [at] Tigger> In-Reply-To: At the mouse house we have "sound baffles" to help redirect and disperse = the sound. They are metal and attach to the bottom of the unit, this directs = the sound towards the back Also if the unit is pointed down the sound also travels up and away from the audience. -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of = Jonathan Zitelman Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 11:41 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: The quest for safe snow For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- This looks like the perfect item. I looked at the company's suggestions for disperssion, but fear any kind of machines will make too much noise. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to build a completely silent system? I'm looking to distribute the snow over a very small depth, but along an about 30' width. The snow would be falling from about 35-40' so I think it would disperse enough during its fall, even if dispensed from a single track. -JZ =86 > Look at CITC Fx's Snow Biz. > > http://www.citcfx.com/products/snow_machines2.htm ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20060928132548.23017.qmail [at] web52215.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 06:25:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Marsland Subject: Idiot-proof In-Reply-To: > > Any such attempts to "Idiot-proof" the design > leads to more > > careless workers down the line! It also seems to > me like part of the > > "Carpet the world" philosophy we've been > discussing on another thread. So I took my 2 1/2 year-old son to the Big Box hardware store to pick up some parts the other day -- electrical back boxes, house-hold light switches and the like. He reached around into the shopping basket and grabbed a switch; "What's this Daddy?" "It's a switch to turn the lights on and off." (Flip, flip, glance up at the lights in the store, flip, flip, glance up) "It needs batteries, Daddy!" Is my son an idoit? Unlikely. He is just doing what he's been trained to do; find what doesn't work and ask for more batteries. Usually, a few minutes of training will teach most people to unplug a light (or other device) before opening it up. And those of us who forget our training will have to occasionally admit to doing something stupid, myself included. Hopefully it's a rare, and non-injurious, occasion. Paul __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20060928063419.04835078 [at] mail.sdsu.edu> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 06:45:41 -0700 From: Loren Schreiber Subject: Re: Gridbits and Rabbit Ears In-Reply-To: References: Greetings all, I published an article about Gridbits in the 7th Biennial Tech Expo Catalog, 1999. It's a pretty simple device consisting of two dowels and a board. They are pretty useful for light loads, around 50 pounds or less. Getting the first few wraps around the dowel on a Gridbit can be tricky with heavier loads. My students and I did a comparison of Gridbits to Rabbit Ears and we all like Rabbit Ears better. They are more complex to build, but they are more user friendly, especially when the load exceeds 50 pounds or so. The design and cutting of the Rabbit Ear cam is what makes the device more complex. But now that I have a CNC router, I can knock out the cam by the dozens. The key to both is to use quality materials and limit loads to what a single stagehand can lift easily. Maybe a brief article for Sightlines comparing the two is in order. What do y'all think? Loren Schreiber, Technical Director School of Theatre, Television and Film, San Diego State University http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/faculty/schreibr/index.html ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Gridbits and Rabbit Ears Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 07:05:12 -0700 Message-ID: <555928311F8B2943B65FC7197942C3B70538C33D [at] es1.bsdnet.wednet.edu> From: "Storms, Randy" How about making that CNC file available to the list, Loren? Randy Storms rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu _________________________________ >The design and cutting of the Rabbit Ear cam is what makes the=20 >device more complex. But now that I have a CNC router, I can knock=20 >out the cam by the dozens.=20 ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 10:32:14 -0400 From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: Re: Gridbits and Rabbit Ears In-Reply-To: References: Mabe we should build the steel version of the rabbit ears and compare the three devices? Let's talk. -Delbert > Maybe a brief article for Sightlines comparing the two is in order. > What do y'all think? > -- Delbert L. Hall ETCP Certified Rigger - Theatre 423-773-4255 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:39:45 -0400 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: The quest for safe snow In-reply-to: Message-id: <7.0.1.0.0.20060928093848.01cb4968 [at] interstellar.com> References: At 09:16 AM 9/27/2006, Paul Schreiner wrote: >Kinda like glitter. Only less sparkly. Sharon and I are still finding glitter around our house left over from the play where we met...in 1981! -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com 219 Oak Wood Way, Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: The quest for safe snow Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 10:52:22 -0400 Message-ID: <002701c6e30d$b4c2c0a0$6501a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > Sharon and I are still finding glitter around our house left over > from the play where we met...in 1981! That's not glitter; that's love. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3eb8da960609280914v73b1a977na9b1f354651973e0 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 12:14:24 -0400 From: "Jason Cowperthwaite" Subject: TTI Dimmer issue.. Hey folks, Trying to get some old TTI dimmers up and running. They seem to be working okay, but the dimmers are locked at full regardless of board level. They are Star Trak I dimmers (6x1.2k). They are connected to a ETC Express 24/48 via an ETC Response 96 out. The response says it is recieving data properly, and there is power to the dimmers as they all are locked on. We tried swapping to another pack, problem persisted. We tried moving the analog out cables to different plugs in the 96 out, problem followed. But, when we unplugged the data, the lights went out... plugged back in, they immediately locked on again. Anyone happen to have a manual sitting around for these, or have experience w/ this type of issue with Analog dimming? Thanks in advance for your help! Jason Cowperthwaite ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20060928122918.02fc6e80 [at] cornell.edu> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 12:31:23 -0400 From: Ford Sellers Subject: Re: TTI Dimmer issue.. In-Reply-To: References: Check the DMX rate in your console [Setup] [Output Configuration] [DMX Rate] and make it as slow as possible. I know..."Not USITT compliant!!!" ...but it has worked for me with older equip. -Ford At 12:14 PM 9/28/2006, you wrote: >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > >Hey folks, > >Trying to get some old TTI dimmers up and running. They seem to be >working okay, but the dimmers are locked at full regardless of board >level. > >They are Star Trak I dimmers (6x1.2k). They are connected to a ETC >Express 24/48 via an ETC Response 96 out. The response says it is >recieving data properly, and there is power to the dimmers as they all >are locked on. > >We tried swapping to another pack, problem persisted. We tried moving >the analog out cables to different plugs in the 96 out, problem >followed. But, when we unplugged the data, the lights went out... >plugged back in, they immediately locked on again. > >Anyone happen to have a manual sitting around for these, or have >experience w/ this type of issue with Analog dimming? Thanks in >advance for your help! > >Jason Cowperthwaite ************************ Ford H Sellers Master Electrician Cornell University Schwartz Center for the Performing Arts 430 College Avenue Ithaca NY, 14850 (607) 254-2736 office (607) 254-2733 fax ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: TTI Dimmer issue.. Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:27:04 -0400 Message-ID: <002e01c6e323$50e89c60$6501a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > >Trying to get some old TTI dimmers up and running. They seem to be > >working okay, but the dimmers are locked at full regardless of board > >level. A long shot, but check the dimmer profile on the Express. They may be set to "non-dim" More likely is that the SCRs (or triacs) are blown. ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 18:27:15 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: TTI Dimmer issue.. References: In-Reply-To: In message , Ford Sellers writes >Check the DMX rate in your console [Setup] [Output Configuration] [DMX >Rate] and make it as slow as possible. I know..."Not USITT >compliant!!!" ...but it has worked for me with older equip. According to the USITT standard it's possible to have a MTBF (Mark Time Between Frames) of up to one second. That means if you sent a packet of 512 frames with a full one second MTBF then it could theoretically take over eight minutes to send a single packet of data and still be compliant with the standard. Obviously this would be rubbish for subtle dimming and mirror movements. :) -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3eb8da960609281106n1feb0f34kbf82d27476533873 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:06:05 -0400 From: "Jason Cowperthwaite" Subject: Re: TTI Dimmer issue.. In-Reply-To: References: So out of desperation, we ended up calling our local Barbizon repairman to see what he could think of. Why is it always the easiest things that we overlook? turns out we had the common crossed to the wrong pin. Re-did our connector, and voila! yeesh... off to calm down the ulcer this show is causing. Jason On 9/28/06, Clive Mitchell wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > In message , Ford Sellers > writes > >Check the DMX rate in your console [Setup] [Output Configuration] [DMX > >Rate] and make it as slow as possible. I know..."Not USITT > >compliant!!!" ...but it has worked for me with older equip. > > According to the USITT standard it's possible to have a MTBF (Mark Time > Between Frames) of up to one second. That means if you sent a packet of > 512 frames with a full one second MTBF then it could theoretically take > over eight minutes to send a single packet of data and still be > compliant with the standard. > > Obviously this would be rubbish for subtle dimming and mirror movements. > :) > -- > Clive Mitchell > http://www.bigclive.com > ------------------------------ From: "Chris Warner" Subject: RE: TTI Dimmer issue.. Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 11:16:02 -0700 Message-ID: <001901c6e32a$2aeb67c0$c199bf82 [at] CHRISLAPTOP> In-Reply-To: Perhaps the dimmers are accepting a different control voltage than is being generated by the Response. Perhaps it's sending a positive voltage control signal and the dimmers want a negative of vice versa? EDI's Scrimmerettes look for an odd voltage that required a special analog Demux at one space I worked in. Cheers. > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Jason > Cowperthwaite > Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:14 AM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: TTI Dimmer issue.. > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hey folks, > > Trying to get some old TTI dimmers up and running. They seem to be > working okay, but the dimmers are locked at full regardless of board > level. > > They are Star Trak I dimmers (6x1.2k). They are connected to a ETC > Express 24/48 via an ETC Response 96 out. The response says it is > recieving data properly, and there is power to the dimmers as they all > are locked on. > > We tried swapping to another pack, problem persisted. We tried moving > the analog out cables to different plugs in the 96 out, problem > followed. But, when we unplugged the data, the lights went out... > plugged back in, they immediately locked on again. > > Anyone happen to have a manual sitting around for these, or have > experience w/ this type of issue with Analog dimming? Thanks in > advance for your help! > > Jason Cowperthwaite ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2066.64.28.53.147.1159469312.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 11:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: TTI Dimmer issue.. From: "Bill Nelson" >>They are Star Trak I dimmers (6x1.2k). They are connected to a ETC >>Express 24/48 via an ETC Response 96 out. The response says it is >>recieving data properly, and there is power to the dimmers as they all >>are locked on. Before doing anything else, disconnect the analog cable from the R96 and check voltages on the output connectors. Do so both with the DMX data cable attached and with it detached. With all sliders on your light board at zero, there should only be a few millivolts between pin 36 (common) and any of the pins 1 through 32. I suspect you will find this true when the DMX cable is disconnected, but the voltage will be around 10-12 volts when the cable is attached. If so, there are a number of possibilities that I can think of. 1) Check the terminator switch on the R96. Make sure it is on if the R96 is at the end of your DMX chain. 2) You must press the R96 reset switch after any switch setting change, either internal or external. 3) Make sure the R96 rotary switches are set properly. There is a test position that sets all dimmers at full intensity. I would not expect this to be the problem, as the dimmers turn off when you remove the DMX signal. The switches should be set to 01 for DMX 1 to control dimmer 1. 4) Make sure all four leds on the R96 are on solid. If the Data led is blinking, no data is present (I think it also indicates bad data, but don't recall for sure). 5) Verify that dip switches 1 and 2 are both open for DMX operation. 6) Make sure the analog cable between the converter and the dimmer pack is wired correctly. Pin 36 is the common pin (and maybe 35 - I don't recall). Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2074.64.28.53.147.1159469592.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 11:53:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: TTI Dimmer issue.. From: "Bill Nelson" > Why is it always the easiest things that we overlook? turns out we > had the common crossed to the wrong pin. Re-did our connector, and > voila! Glad you found the problem. That was one of the items I suggested you check. Bill ------------------------------ Subject: Safe Snow Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 15:40:56 -0400 Message-ID: <8802A32EF902C24E9722D4C900E0929B0CD856 [at] iu-mssg-mbx107.ads.iu.edu> References: From: "Potter, Chase R" The college opera theatre I worked for has used two similar snow bags, = hung end to end for years. The differences are that they use 1" square = scrap white paper (pulled from the recycle bin) and they have 1" wide = slits in the fabric to allow it to escape. The bag is hung from one = pipe, one edge dead hung, the other on 1x4 battens and hung from = pulleys. The lines from the moving side all converge in a single line = on SL, where they have a sandbag to assist in the pulling. When you = pull the line (slowly, evenly and repeatedly), the one side of the bag = lifts evenly, rolling the snow out of the slits on the fixed side. =20 =20 You could probably adjust the size of both paper bits and slits to your = liking. Like I said, we used this system for years, including for the = Nutcracker. I think the bag was even made from recycled painted muslin = drops. Cheap and easy, only uses one lineset, and if you have the = flyspace, the whole thing can be flown in past your lights, or out to = where folks can't toy with the release cord. Us lowly stage hands used = to sweep up and "clean" the snow in a homemade bingo ball cage. Snow = stays in, dirt sifts out. Be careful not to let hardware get into the = bag, it hurts when it lands. =20 Chase R. Potter =20 On 26 Sep 2006, at 10:59, Jonathan Zitelman wrote: OK, I've waited on the sidelines long enough on this one - I'd = have=20 thought SOMEONE would have mentioned this by now. You mentioned=20 "trying to think up a shifting gutter system, kind of like a sift".=20 That's exactly the way I do it and has been done for ages by many=20 people. The "Snow Bag" is a strip of fabric the length of your stage's=20 width. Each edge is attached to a batten, and slits are cut in one=20 half the width of the fabric - perpendicular to the length (Running=20 upstage / downstage). The batten with the Un-slitted side is the=20 "Fixed" batten - it doesn't move. the other batten (The one with the=20 slits" ) is moved up and down to sift the snow out of the bag. What to use for "Snow"? Artificial snow! It's essentially = shredded=20 plastic, and available from any theatrical supplier. I'm not sure,=20 but it seems to me it might be a Rosco product. I built mine out of the cheapest fabric I could find, and use it = every year for the dreaded Nutcrapper. I've also used it twice this=20 past year for a balloon drop! Bruce ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:12:33 -0400 From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: Re: Safe Snow In-Reply-To: References: The Community Theatre of Greensboro (NC) uses snow bags like this for their yearly production of WIZARD OF OZ (Nov.'s show will be their 12 year). One year the person operating the snow bag had to miss a performance and told the SM that she would have to get someone else to run the effect the next night, but he fill the bag with snow before he left the theatre so that it would be ready to go. She forgot, but remembered moments before the curtain was when up. She grabbed a guy and quickly told him what to do. When it was time for the effect, the SM cued the "new" tech (who had never rehearsed the effect) who immediately dropped the entire load of snow onto the stage (and the peformers) in one large "plop." Everyone started laughing uncontrollably, including the actors and the orchestra, as that attempted to finish the scene. The moral of this story is that even simple tasks can go awry if not rehearsed. -Delbert -- Delbert L. Hall ETCP Certified Rigger - Theatre 423-773-4255 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2c0e15160609281348u7201ce96x106744d2338f7784 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:48:13 -0400 From: "Gregg Carville" Cc: THEATRE-SOUND [at] listserv.aol.com (Discussion list for people working in sound for live theatre.) Subject: Outdoor Sound Systems I am working with my department in maintaining a football stadium. Currently they have Peavey Impulse 200 Speakers in a 70v set-up. The speakers are dying a slow death. I am looking into replacements. Currently I am not particularly impressed with these speakers. Anyone want to reccommend speakers to look at. They will be outside 24/7 365 and we do live in Maine, so lots of bad weather. Any opinions would be appreciated. Thank you, Gregg -- Gregg Carville Merrill Auditorium Portland, Maine ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:59:28 -0400 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: TTI Dimmer issue.. In-reply-to: Message-id: <7.0.1.0.0.20060928165608.01ccd1f8 [at] interstellar.com> References: At 01:27 PM 9/28/2006, Clive Mitchell wrote: >According to the USITT standard it's possible to have a MTBF (Mark >Time Between Frames) of up to one second. That means if you sent a >packet of 512 frames with a full one second MTBF then it could >theoretically take over eight minutes to send a single packet of >data and still be compliant with the standard. Because of the problems with "inexpensive" dimmers, we added a setting to our DMX box that lets you set the max DMX frame rate from 1-255 frames/second. If you leave the setting at 0, you get up to 800 frames per second if the number of channels is small (yes, 800 frames per second is fully ANSI compliant, I think the number is something like 1195uS minimum per frame, but that's from memory as I'm currently sipping a rum & Coke alongside a golf course in Maine waiting for a fireworks show that I'm NOT working on). -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com 219 Oak Wood Way, Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <74683251-9EBD-4229-9B90-A3214FF5CD1B [at] gmail.com> From: Andrew Vance Subject: Re: ENR/Colortran Viewpoint Manual Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 17:32:49 -0400 On 27 Sep, 2006, at 18:08 , Cosmo Catalano wrote: > OK, I know some of you out there have this. I'm looking for a > manual for the Viewpoint architectural controls that were used by > Colortran back in the 80's. Often used with their ENR dimmers (the > ones that occasionally caught on fire). Not having much luck > finding this on line, as "on line" was a new thing when this system > was installed. I'll even send you my Fed Ex number to ship a copy > out here. Cosmo => Here's a link from the Leviton website for the manual: http://tinyurl.com/f23sv or http://lms.leviton.com/openfile.aspx?docid=273&title=%20Viewpoint%20 (pdf)%20-%20OBSOLETE%20PRODUCT What specifically are you trying to do, or do you want the manual for reference down the line? I dealt with a Viewpoint system for the last four years, and became very adept at it and its quirks. Not the best system in the world, but it works well enough if you have enough patience. I might have an old hardcopy manual at home; I'll check when I get back there tonight if you'd like. I can also forward you on to a few folks who might be able to get you a copy if needed. -- Sincerely, Andrew Vance Lighting Designer atvanceld [at] gmail.com ------------------------------ Subject: Heading to London Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 17:57:33 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Ehrenberg, Steven" Hey UK list folks- I am heading to London to work on a Festival of Steve Reich Music and Opera for next week at the Barbican. I am there from Sat 30th - Sun Oct. 8th. and would welcome a chance to meet any of you listers for an adult beverage. C'mon Frank can't you get to the Barbican? Busy schedule through the week, hey I'm workin' ya know, but would look forward to a chance to meet. Might even have a ticket or two for a concert or Opera. My mobile works there or email off list. Steven =20 Steven Ehrenberg=20 Vice President of Technical Supervision=20 Live Nation / Broadway Across America=20 220 W 42nd St. 14th floor NY, NY 10036=20 Office 917 421 5461=20 Mobile 917 331 0207=20 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <451C5B25.1010808 [at] gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 19:30:45 -0400 From: Brian James Reply-To: brianedwardjames [at] gmail.com Subject: Re: Outdoor Sound Systems References: In-Reply-To: How big a stadium? Gregg Carville wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I am working with my department in maintaining a football stadium. > Currently they have Peavey Impulse 200 Speakers in a 70v set-up. > > The speakers are dying a slow death. I am looking into replacements. > Currently I am not particularly impressed with these speakers. > > Anyone want to reccommend speakers to look at. They will be outside > 24/7 365 and we do live in Maine, so lots of bad weather. > > Any opinions would be appreciated. > > Thank you, > > Gregg > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3e3c173c0609281722i52835a90u1fe6e82d206eb5ad [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 19:22:08 -0500 From: "Matt Pumplin" Subject: Re: The quest for safe snow In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <695920A6-44E2-47F4-982A-60A9A1BC4E90 [at] rochester.rr.com> From: Bruce Purdy Subject: Re: The quest for safe snow Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 21:43:20 -0400 On 26 Sep 2006, at 10:59, Jonathan Zitelman wrote: >> I am currently looking at the options for creating a fake snow effect >> over the apron of the stage for an end of the year choir concert. > The "Snow Bag" is a strip of fabric the length of your stage's >width. Each edge is attached to a batten, and slits are cut in one >half the width of the fabric - perpendicular to the length (Running >upstage / downstage). We used two of these snow bags at Syracuse Stage to produce a somewhat 3-D snow effect at the end of "King Lear". I believe we used plastic snow, which is pretty much shredded white trash bags. The material for the snow bags was muslin, probably 12' wide with the slits as Bruce described, maybe ever 4"-6". I believe they were stock from years of doing "A Christmas Carol". As someone else mentioned, beware of getting snow in your lights; you will not be happy with the messy result. The snow swept up alright, though water-soluble fake snow sounds pretty cool. Hope that helps, Matt Pumplin ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #966 *****************************