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X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 36171823; Wed, 11 Oct 2006 03:01:50 -0700 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on localhost X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,EMPTY_MESSAGE,NO_RECEIVED, NO_RELAYS,URI_SCHEME_MIXED_CASE autolearn=no version=3.1.5 X-Spam-Level: X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #978 Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 03:01:13 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #978 1. Re: General stage policy by "LES LIND" 2. Re: Music Stand Lights- Thanks! by Heather Carter 3. Re: Sound "Proof" Curtain/wall/door? by "Bill Conner" 4. Re: Dance floor by "Bill Conner" 5. Re: Sound "Proof" Curtain/wall/door? by "richard j. archer" 6. question to road houses by b Ricie 7. Re: Dance floor by "Storms, Randy" 8. Tesla coils by Herrick Goldman 9. Re: Tesla coils by "Bill Nelson" 10. Barbed Wire/Razor wire on stage by "Chris Rovers" 11. Job Posting-Master Carpenter-Fisher Theatrical by "Kacey Fisher" 12. Job Posting-Project Manager-Fisher Theatrical by "Kacey Fisher" 13. Re: Barbed Wire/Razor wire on stage by Pat Kight 14. Re: question to road houses by "Idaho Scenic & Rigging" 15. Re: Barbed Wire/Razor wire on stage by Davy Davis 16. Re: Help finding a particular lamp by CB 17. Re: Sound "Proof" Curtain/wall/door? by CB 18. Re: Barbed Wire/Razor wire on stage by "Occy" 19. Job Posting: Tech Dir, PSM, Box Office manager, Shadow Box Theatre, NYC by loftlight [at] aol.com 20. ETC RFU by "Paul Schreiner" 21. Re: Tesla coils by Clive Mitchell 22. Re: Tesla coils by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 23. Re: Tesla coils by "Occy" 24. Re: Tesla coils by Jerry Durand 25. Re: Tesla coils by Jerry Durand 26. Re: Tesla coils by Herrick Goldman 27. LDI plans by Herrick Goldman 28. Re: Tesla coils by Clive Mitchell 29. Re: Tesla coils by Clive Mitchell 30. Re: Tesla coils by Jerry Durand 31. Re: Tesla coils by Herrick Goldman 32. Re: Tesla coils by "Occy" 33. Re: Tesla coils by Clive Mitchell 34. Re: LDI plans by "Joe Saint" 35. Re: LDI plans by gregg hillmar 36. Re: LDI plans by "Occy" 37. Re: "Photo flash" by Brendan Quigley 38. Re: LDI plans by Herrick Goldman 39. Re: LDI plans by "Joe Saint" 40. Re: LDI plans by Herrick Goldman 41. Re: Tesla coils by Jerry Durand 42. Re: LDI plans by "Occy" 43. Re: Tesla coils by "Occy" 44. Re: Tesla coils by "Bill Nelson" 45. Re: Tesla coils by "Bill Nelson" 46. Re: LDI plans by Charlie Richmond 47. Re: Tesla coils by "Bill Nelson" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-Id: <452B58B90200002900001699 [at] mailhost.nesd.k12.pa.us> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 08:24:25 -0400 From: "LES LIND" Subject: Re: General stage policy References: In-Reply-To: Well Kristi, I too had no formal training but over the last 16 years I read, listened, tried, failed and most of all subscribed to this list. I had an interest and learned what I could all the while keeping safety foremost in what I did. I was hired because they needed someone, anyone. Dave too will do a good job, I believe, as he learns the importance of the job and I have offered my consultation whenever he needs information. It took 1.5 years, more than doubled the extra-circurricular stipend I got (around $1600) and offered an hourly wage at $20/hour (which I didn't get) for the district to fill the position. The job discription the admin came up with read like a full time job and was pretty much taken from the information I gave them when they asked what I did. I still plan on helping with the spring musical but coming and going as I please and taking no responsibility. It may be hard to do! Les Les Lind Northeastern High School Manchester, PA >>> 10/6/06 8:58 PM >>> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- lindl [at] nesd.k12.pa.us writes: << I resigned from the TD position here at the high school. The new guy, who is a teacher and has no formal stage training..... >> Just gotta ask... Why did they hire someone totally incompetent to do the job? Would they hire a teacher who has no credentials/license/formal training to teach math? Lord help them if they did it for Chemistry! ARRGH!!! YES there should be a formal "here is what you will have/how you will act to be safe onstage" document and it should be taught to every person who goes on that stage with comprehension tested via written exam BEFORE s/he is allowed to set foot on it. Since your replacement is going to have to enforce it (just as he does all other school rules) he should be the one to develop it, in consultation with the building/district safety coordinator. Kristi ------------------------------ Message-Id: <8B1E04BE-C151-4C44-809C-513C36F0DEF8 [at] marlboro.edu> From: Heather Carter Subject: Re: Music Stand Lights- Thanks! Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 08:50:20 -0400 Thanks, Jeff. The Orchestra E-string is exactly what I was remembering. Glad you have a better memory than I do! --Heather Carter. Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2006 19:46:18 -0500 From: "Jeff Mabray" Subject: RE: Music Stand Lights In-reply-to: Message-id: Lex products has a product called E-String or Orchestra string that is an extension cord with several outlets along it's length. This may be what you are looking for. Go here: http://www.lexproducts.com/catalog/PowerFLEX.htm and then talk to your local Lex Products dealer. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <004601c6ec6b$474221d0$6501a8c0 [at] BCA1> Reply-To: "Bill Conner" From: "Bill Conner" Subject: Re: Sound "Proof" Curtain/wall/door? Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 07:54:51 -0500 If you can create a double wall space - perhaps 4-6' - between two doors - like a folding ballroom divider - you can do pretty well. Any single partition will not be ideal. I'm working on a project with a 12 x 16 opening from stage, across a corridor, into shop and that is a $100,000 door, and won't be perfect in that I suspect a couple of screaming skil saws will still be noticed but maybe not enough to be a problem for most events. But then these are slabs on grade with isolation joints - and if the space behind your stage is connected structurally to the stage - either the floor or roof or other paths - there is only so much you can do. I recommend you hire an acoustical consultant to quantify the problem and give you enough specifics that a friendly contractor could give you an idea of cost. Bill Conner ASTC, ETCP CR-T ------------------------------ Message-ID: <004a01c6ec6c$3be84a20$6501a8c0 [at] BCA1> Reply-To: "Bill Conner" From: "Bill Conner" Subject: Re: Dance floor Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 08:01:42 -0500 Look at Robbins Flooring's Bio Channel Classic gym floor or other gym floors. I don't know about your region but in most areas these tend to be in the $15 sq ft range. This is a permanent floor and you will need to mess around with threshold conditions and accessibility but shouldn't be too difficult. Bill Conner ASTC ETCP CR-T ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:04:42 -0400 From: "richard j. archer" Subject: Re: Sound "Proof" Curtain/wall/door? Scott C. Parker wrote > >Does anyone have any experience with sound proof curtains or movable >walls? ... >I'm looking for a sound resistant solution. The opening is >approximately 38' wide by 19' tall. > > We have a 12' x 18' sound door separating shop and stage. STC 50+, power operated, air seals all around, made by Jamison. Works well but you still don't want power tools and performance at the same time. Yes empty out your wallet. Ours cost around $80k when this place was built in 87-88. By the way, custom sound doors will not carry a fire rating (since you'd have to burn one to get it) so you might need something like a roll up separating the spaces as well. Dick A TD, Cornell U ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20061010144824.65924.qmail [at] web50610.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 07:48:24 -0700 (PDT) From: b Ricie Subject: question to road houses In-Reply-To: >> I have never seen a sound >person power down once they were installed.<< If a sound person did power down once they were installed, could you just use a paper clip to hit the re-set, or would you have to un install them and send them out to be fixed? Brian Rice 508-685-0716 b_ricie [at] yahoo.com "Blessed are the cracked: For it is they who let in the light." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Dance floor Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 08:09:11 -0700 Message-ID: <555928311F8B2943B65FC7197942C3B70538C369 [at] es1.bsdnet.wednet.edu> From: "Storms, Randy" Scott - it might be worth investigating an engineered subfloor system = such as those used to remodel residential basements. Check out these = links: http://www.dricore.com/en/eindex.htm http://www.coverdeck.com HTH, Randy Storms rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu --------------------------------------------------- Hello All, We are, supposedly, being given a classroom to hold Broadway style dance classes in. Right now it has a tile floor. So, I need to cover it. I have pricing on Rosco and Harlequin 1/4" floors, but I fear that these may not provide enough cushion. Does anyone have basic pricing and/or suggestions for more of a sprung floor? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:34:05 -0400 Subject: Tesla coils From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: Hi gang, I'm designing Frankenstein a rock musical. Does anyone have a source in the US or Canada for rental of Tesla Coils? -Herrick -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2478.205.215.255.116.1160499145.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:52:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Tesla coils From: "Bill Nelson" > I'm designing Frankenstein a rock musical. Does anyone have a source in > the US or Canada for rental of Tesla Coils? Try the links at: http://tinyurl.com/p3fwk Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:38:01 -0400 From: "Chris Rovers" Subject: Barbed Wire/Razor wire on stage Hi, all I'm looking at simulating either barbed wire or razor wire (ie, those coils of wire) on stage. It is a very small proscenium theatre - closest audience member will be within 15 feet. The wire will be above the actors' headlevel, so they won't be able to play with it, but I'd be reluctant to put in anything sharp despite that This must be something relatively common - thoughts? Chris ------------------------------ From: "Kacey Fisher" Subject: Job Posting-Master Carpenter-Fisher Theatrical Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:41:07 -0400 Message-ID: <06e701c6ec93$44b3a790$1c0aa8c0 [at] ftoffice.local> Fisher Theatrical is seeking a Full-Time Master Carpenter for its = location in Hanover, MD.=A0 Must posses advanced scenic carpentry skills and be = able to work at a fast pace.=A0 Painting and welding skills are a plus. Crew management experience is required. Rigging experience preferred.=20 Duties to include: =95 Construction of scenery and installation parts=20 =95 Lead onsite and off-site crews-for scenic and rigging installs=20 =95 Work with Shop Manager to maintain shop, staff scheduling, and = coordinate client needs=20 =95 Train new staff members on any tools, equipment, and procedures =A0 Job will require some evening and weekend hours.=A0 Physical Requirements: =95 Must be able to lift 50 pounds=20 =95 Must be able to operate all tools and machinery independently=20 =95 Must have valid Driver=92s License=20 =95 Must be able to pass Department of Transportation driving = requirements =A0 Pay based on experience.=A0 Benefits package including health and = 401K.=A0 Candidates should send a resume, including references, and salary = history to: 7476 New Ridge Road Suite C=20 Hanover, MD 21076 Fax: 410-487-0090 Email: Jobs [at] FisherTheatrical.com Fisher Theatrical is an Equal Opportunity Employer ------------------------------ From: "Kacey Fisher" Subject: Job Posting-Project Manager-Fisher Theatrical Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:41:37 -0400 Message-ID: <06e801c6ec93$5648ff50$1c0aa8c0 [at] ftoffice.local> Fisher Theatrical is seeking a full-time project manager for its = location in Hanover, MD.=A0 Must have a working knowledge of entertainment systems, including but not limited to lighting, rigging, and audio systems.=A0 = Must have experience running crews and coordinating clients=92 needs.=A0 Duties include:=20 =95 Managing installation projects from the bid process through = completion=20 =95 Travel to jobsites=20 =95 Onsite management of installation for extended periods of time=20 =95 Outside sales for current and new clients=20 =95 Coordination of installation staff travel needs and onsite equipment = needs =95 Minimal inside sales =A0 Salary based on experience.=A0 Benefits package including health and = 401K.=A0=A0 Candidates should send a resume, including references and salary history = to: 7476 New Ridge Road Suite C Hanover, MD 21076 Fax: 410-487-0090 Email: Jobs [at] FisherTheatrical.com Fisher Theatrical is an Equal Employment Opportunity Employer ------------------------------ Message-ID: <452BDFD5.80405 [at] peak.org> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:00:53 -0700 From: Pat Kight Subject: Re: Barbed Wire/Razor wire on stage References: In-Reply-To: Chris Rovers wrote: > I'm looking at simulating either barbed wire or razor wire (ie, those > coils of wire) on stage. It is a very small proscenium theatre - > closest audience member will be within 15 feet. > > The wire will be above the actors' headlevel, so they won't be able to > play with it, but I'd be reluctant to put in anything sharp despite > that > > This must be something relatively common - thoughts? This stuff looks pretty good, and isn't too expensive: http://www.ghostride.com/products/misc/faux-barbed-wire.html And this place has both fake barbed wire and fake razor wire for sale or rent: http://www.actionprops.com/page/page/2278608.htm -- Pat Kight Albany (Oregon) Civic Theater ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001101c6ec96$a979a910$6401a8c0 [at] amd2200> From: "Idaho Scenic & Rigging" References: Subject: Re: question to road houses Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 12:05:25 -0600 ----- Original Message ----- From: "b Ricie" > --------------------------------------------------- > >> I have never seen a sound > >>person power down once they were installed.<< > > If a sound person did power down once they were > installed, could you just use a paper clip to hit the > re-set, or would you have to un install them and send > them out to be fixed? > I am pretty sure they are designed to auto reset upon hearing a 60 cycle hum. Rob't ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:51:49 -0600 From: Davy Davis Subject: Re: Barbed Wire/Razor wire on stage In-reply-to: Message-id: <452BDDB5.7040206 [at] du.edu> References: We built razor wire for our recent production of Henry VI, part 3. It was coils of wire with strips of mylar tape stuck on it after being cut to the right shape. Worked very well and was totally safe. Perfect for a detail oriented person to work at for hours depending on how much you need. Davy William Temple (Davy) Davis; Chair Department of Theatre University of Denver wdavis [at] du.edu 303-871-3164 Chris Rovers wrote: > > I'm looking at simulating either barbed wire or razor wire (ie, those > coils of wire) on stage. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20061010105614.00c4a688 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:56:14 From: CB Subject: Re: Help finding a particular lamp >www.prismaecat.lighting.philips.com/LightSite/Whirlwind.aspx?eca=LNPPLA&cpf =CANPUS&stg=ACT&lan=US&cnt_key=H_M16ADI+|PLC|134569+++&ecu=LMP|PLC|NP&t=3&tr ee=0&scr_md=1111&leftnav=1_1&nav=Null&loc=ca_en This is a job for *TINYURL!* 'Sreally easy... Almost as easy as trimming the chaff out of your posts. Oh, and for those of you who find the technical challenge of trimming the unwanted reply out of your Stagecraft posts, a kind angel has contributed a spellchecker that I can use (the question is will I...) with my preferred version of Eudora in exchange for donating lessons to the list. He is a digester as well, you see. Sign up, I see a lot of you that aren't capable of handling it on your own... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20061010110416.00c4a688 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:04:16 From: CB Subject: Re: Sound "Proof" Curtain/wall/door? >I'm sure folks on this list have more recent experiences. It's really going to be only a bit more expensive to build a seperate shop facility. It will be far more usefull, as anything that you do is either going to have the shop shut down anytime the stage is being used, anyways, or shop sounds as part of the sound design. Think of it as having glass walls and asking the lighting guys to spec lighting that'll work around it. It's gonna cost, and it's not really going to be very effective. Pour the slab and hold a barn-raising. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Occy" References: Subject: Re: Barbed Wire/Razor wire on stage Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:46:21 -0700 Its Halloween time lots of stuff out right now to build your hunted house available at most of your favorite box store, with no extra shipping costs, I have even seen barb wire there too. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Rovers" > --------------------------------------------------- > Hi, all > > I'm looking at simulating either barbed wire or razor wire (ie, those > coils of wire) on stage. It is a very small proscenium theatre - > closest audience member will be within 15 feet. > > The wire will be above the actors' headlevel, so they won't be able to > play with it, but I'd be reluctant to put in anything sharp despite > that > > This must be something relatively common - thoughts? > > Chris > ------------------------------ References: Subject: Job Posting: Tech Dir, PSM, Box Office manager, Shadow Box Theatre, NYC Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:02:13 -0400 In-Reply-To: From: loftlight [at] aol.com Message-Id: <8C8BAB5BB451D20-950-140C [at] WEBMAIL-MC15.sysops.aol.com> PRODUCTION STAGE MANAGER FOR THE SHADOW BOX THEATRE The Shadow Box Theatre (SBT), now in our 39th year, is a not-for-profit children=E2=80=99s musical puppet company performing for pre-K through elementary school children in New York City. We are seeking an experienced Production Stage Manager, with good technical skills in lighting and sound. Candidates should have strong organizational and time management skills, and an interest in children=E2=80=99s theatre. Weekday mornings, some afternoons. Driver=E2=80=99s license a plus. We perform at several venues in downtown Brooklyn, with some performances a year also in Manhattan, Queens, and Bronx. SBT performs on weekday mornings, producing three mainstage shows per season, in addition to smaller storytelling performances, using puppets, a live cast of singers and dancers, and lots of audience participation. Our mission is to provide New York=E2=80=99s inner-city children with enriched cultural experiences =E2=80=93 combining theatre arts and education =E2=80=93 to promote social and personal development, creativity and learning. For more information about our company, visit our website at www.shadowboxtheatre.org. Please email cover letter and resume to: sbt [at] shadowboxtheatre.org. ______________________ TECH DIRECTOR FOR THE SHADOW BOX THEATRE The Shadow Box Theatre, multi-ethnic, children's musical puppet company, seeks an experienced technical director for upcoming repertory season. Strong skills in lighting and sound required. Experience with puppetry helpful but not required. Paid position/non-union. Part-time, some NYC touring. To apply, e-mail/fax resume, references and cover letter to S. Robbins, Director. E-mail: sbt [at] shadowboxtheatre.org. Fax: (212) 724-0767. ______________________ BOX OFFICE MANAGER FOR THE SHADOW BOX THEATRE The Shadow Box Theatre, multi-ethnic, children's musical puppet company, seeks a Box Office person for upcoming repertory season. Job includes =E2=80=9Cgreeting & seating=E2=80=9D teachers and kids (age 3 to 9), managing concessions, handling payments and paperwork. Must be organized and a good =E2=80=9Cpeople person.=E2=80=9D Paid position/non-union. Part-time (approx. 3 to 4 hours weekday mornings) in Brooklyn, some NYC touring. To apply, e-mail/fax resume, references and cover letter to S. Robbins, Director. E-mail: sbt [at] shadowboxtheatre.org. Fax: (212) 724-0767. ______________________ TECH DIRECTOR, PROD. STAGE MGR., & BOX OFFICE MGR. FOR CHILDREN'S THEATRE: Shadow Box Theatre, multi-ethnic, children's musical puppet company, seeks to fill 3 positions for upcoming repertory season: Tech Director with strong skills in lighting and sound, and experienced Production Stage Manager. Experience with puppetry helpful but not required. Also seeking Box Office Manager. Paid positions/non-union. Daytime, part-time, some NYC touring. To apply, e-mail/fax resume, references and cover letter (state which position) to S. Robbins, Director. E-mail: sbt [at] shadowboxtheatre.org. Fax: (212) 724-0767 ------------------------------ Subject: ETC RFU Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:19:33 -0400 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A066FDB01 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" Can any of the ETC reps out there answer a quick question for me? We're planning on buying a RRFU unit to go with our Express consoles...but we can't find anywhere listed an option for purchasing a separate receiver so that we don't have to unplug the box from one board and truck it across campus to venue number two. I see where one receiver can "support multiple units", and where it's possible to have mulitple systems functioning in the same area, but nothing about this particular option. Will it work? ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 20:28:37 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: Tesla coils References: In-Reply-To: In message , Herrick Goldman writes >I'm designing Frankenstein a rock musical. Does anyone have a source in >the US or Canada for rental of Tesla Coils? Http://www.teslacoil.com May be quite expensive and cause issues with other equipment. A Jacob's ladder (as seen on my website) would be a much cheaper and less electrically violent effect. -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 19:57:13 GMT Subject: Re: Tesla coils Message-Id: <20061010.125729.15735.566287 [at] webmail30.lax.untd.com> True, and you can build it yourself with 2 welding rods and a neon = transformer. /s/ Richard _________________ A Jacob's ladder (as seen on my website) would be a much cheaper and = less electrically violent effect. -- = Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Occy" References: Subject: Re: Tesla coils Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:09:53 -0700 Some are very noisy. Did an industrial were a giant Tesla coil was built... well the automation freaked out, pyro went off, automated lighting made a show of it own. that was during first rehearsal. Show got rewritten that night so all the toys could be used. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herrick Goldman" > --------------------------------------------------- > Hi gang, > > I'm designing Frankenstein a rock musical. Does anyone have a source in > the > US or Canada for rental of Tesla Coils? > > -Herrick > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:19:08 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Tesla coils In-reply-to: Message-id: <7.0.1.0.0.20061010131412.01ef8a38 [at] interstellar.com> References:

At 01:09 PM 10/10/2006, Occy wrote: >Some are very noisy. Did an industrial were a giant Tesla coil was built... >well the automation freaked out, pyro went off, automated lighting made a >show of it own. that was during first rehearsal. Show got rewritten that >night so all the toys could be used. I've had occasion to use a smaller coil for a client where it had to run for long periods of time. A LOT of ozone comes out of the arc-gap in it and the electrodes tend to burn over time (think arc lamp), so the coil output changed throughout the day. Here's a picture of it ready to be turned on: http://interstellar.com/temp/IM000038.JPG Clive, I'll bet you can tell me what we were using it for. :) -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com 219 Oak Wood Way, Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:27:30 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Tesla coils In-reply-to: Message-id: <7.0.1.0.0.20061010132517.01ef9b20 [at] interstellar.com> References:

At 01:19 PM 10/10/2006, Jerry Durand wrote: Here's a picture of it ready to be turned on: >http://interstellar.com/temp/IM000038.JPG I just realized that's the high-resolution version. I've swapped it with a low-resolution version to save people with dialup. The high resolution one is now: http://interstellar.com/temp/IM000038large.JPG -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com 219 Oak Wood Way, Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:28:22 -0400 Subject: Re: Tesla coils From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <7100506.1160510016046.JavaMail.root [at] m41> Yeah Tesla's are cool. But I think the casino will want a pre-made certified safe, insured by renter effect. Know anyone who can do that? -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:38:16 -0400 Subject: LDI plans From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: Folks, Usually I'm active in planning stagecraft LDI gatherings but I've been slammed. So here's an open invitation to come visit me. For those of you who exhibit, I'll be designing the Altman Booth on Thursday so just drop by. I'll be designing and installing the LDI/behind the scenes awards (formerly the Eddy's) in a large conference room just off the showroom floor. I'll be in there most of the day Saturday. I may even stick around for the awards. Or you can always text my cell and we'll meet up at the TMB booth for beer. _H -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:37:45 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: Tesla coils References: <7100506.1160510016046.JavaMail.root [at] m41> In-Reply-To: In message , Herrick Goldman writes >Yeah Tesla's are cool. But I think the casino will want a pre-made >certified safe, insured by renter effect. Know anyone who can do that? As before:- http://www.teslacoil.com Check out their existing installations. -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:39:49 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: Tesla coils References:

In-Reply-To: In message , Jerry Durand writes >I've had occasion to use a smaller coil for a client where it had to >run for long periods of time. A LOT of ozone comes out of the arc-gap >in it and the electrodes tend to burn over time (think arc lamp), so >the coil output changed throughout the day. > >Here's a picture of it ready to be turned on: > >http://interstellar.com/temp/IM000038.JPG > >Clive, I'll bet you can tell me what we were using it for. :) I'm trying to work out what the mysterious tubes are just under the torroid. It's my guess they may be under high voltage test, but then the antenna suggests that the output from the coil is being monitored. Hmm, tricky. Is the ornate table lamp a red herring? :) -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:54:26 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Tesla coils In-reply-to: Message-id: <7.0.1.0.0.20061010145129.01fac6c0 [at] interstellar.com> References:

At 02:39 PM 10/10/2006, Clive Mitchell wrote: >I'm trying to work out what the mysterious tubes are just under the >torroid. It's my guess they may be under high voltage test, but then >the antenna suggests that the output from the coil is being monitored. Oh, the tubes were various gasses, the coil came with them. They glow nicely, I think it was supposed to make the output waves nicer to puppies or something. :) We were using the coil as a noise source to test things that aren't in the picture. Of course we had to characterize the coil first (hence the antenna). One of the stranger things that's been in that room. :) >Hmm, tricky. Is the ornate table lamp a red herring? :) That's the ghost light for the shield room. -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com 219 Oak Wood Way, Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 18:08:24 -0400 Subject: Re: Tesla coils From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1704781.1160516956849.JavaMail.root [at] m41> ActuallY I meant jacob's ladder. The whole interference thing spooked me. :) On 10/10/06 5:37 PM, "Clive Mitchell" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > In message , Herrick Goldman > writes >> Yeah Tesla's are cool. But I think the casino will want a pre-made >> certified safe, insured by renter effect. Know anyone who can do that? > > As before:- > > http://www.teslacoil.com > > Check out their existing installations. -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Occy" References: Subject: Re: Tesla coils Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:20:24 -0700 How Big you want it? I might have to dig mine out.. need to anyway to see the voltage xmer for Clive as it is over 50 years old. Oh I shot my Jacob's ladder to 10 feet length of travel of the spark. the EMI is not very bad with a Jacob's ladder, mostly at the restrike of the arc just like the spark plugs in your car. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herrick Goldman" > --------------------------------------------------- > > ActuallY I meant jacob's ladder. The whole interference thing spooked me. > :) > ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 00:38:32 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: Tesla coils References:

In-Reply-To: In message , Occy writes >How Big you want it? I might have to dig mine out.. need to anyway to >see the voltage xmer for Clive as it is over 50 years old. Oh I shot my >Jacob's ladder to 10 feet length of travel of the spark. The real biggie Jacobs Ladders use a pole pig (pole mounting step down distribution transformer) run in reverse with a current limiter. Very dangerous though. -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ From: "Joe Saint" Subject: RE: LDI plans Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 19:51:02 -0400 Message-ID: <004801c6ecc6$f1a749b0$640fa8c0 [at] D3G47461> In-Reply-To: There's beer at LDI? I'm shocked. SHOCKED! I will be wandering the floor on Fri and Sat -- in the afternoons. The mornings are for the links. Joe Saint President IMCD Lighting 646-415-7588 www.imcdlighting.com -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Herrick Goldman Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 5:38 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: LDI plans For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Folks, Usually I'm active in planning stagecraft LDI gatherings but I've been slammed. So here's an open invitation to come visit me. For those of you who exhibit, I'll be designing the Altman Booth on Thursday so just drop by. I'll be designing and installing the LDI/behind the scenes awards (formerly the Eddy's) in a large conference room just off the showroom floor. I'll be in there most of the day Saturday. I may even stick around for the awards. Or you can always text my cell and we'll meet up at the TMB booth for beer. _H -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <1825C084-4023-484A-8B95-B187DC8E6E94 [at] hillmardesign.com> From: gregg hillmar Subject: Re: LDI plans Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 19:58:27 -0400 I'll be at the Vectorworks booth most of the time, but would love to catch up with listers... g. _____________________ gregg hillmar scenic & lighting design portfolio & life as we know it: http://www.hillmardesign.com "Work like you don't need the money. Love like you've never been hurt. Dance like no one's watching." Satchel Paige On Oct 10, 2006, at 5:38 PM, Herrick Goldman wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see stagecraft.theprices.net/> > --------------------------------------------------- > > Folks, > > Usually I'm active in planning stagecraft LDI gatherings but I've been > slammed. So here's an open invitation to come visit me. > > For those of you who exhibit, I'll be designing the Altman Booth on > Thursday > so just drop by. I'll be designing and installing the LDI/behind > the scenes > awards (formerly the Eddy's) in a large conference room just off the > showroom floor. I'll be in there most of the day Saturday. I may > even stick > around for the awards. > > Or you can always text my cell and we'll meet up at the TMB booth > for beer. > > _H > > -- > Herrick Goldman > Lighting Designer, NYC > www.HGLightingDesign.com > 917-797-3624 > "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness > and in > light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Occy" References: Subject: Re: LDI plans Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:10:49 -0700 How are us west coaster going to know who you are or do you wear white flowing robes with a golden halo tracking your every movement above your head? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Saint" > --------------------------------------------------- > There's beer at LDI? I'm shocked. SHOCKED! > > I will be wandering the floor on Fri and Sat -- in the afternoons. The > mornings are for the links. > > Joe Saint ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 20:29:22 -0400 From: Brendan Quigley Subject: Re:"Photo flash" Message-id: <9593F998-FB00-427C-8F80-64140EAC843E [at] earthlink.net> howdy y'all ... so Brian Aldous asked about ... >a staged "photo" shot. A few years ago, I used Bowen photo flashes for a lightning effect on RIVERDANCE. Memories are fuzzy, but we got them from BASH (now some flavour of PRG Lighting). I believe they're still available, and work well in a "one shot" mode. I have never been a fan of the AF-1000 strobes, as I find them difficult to work with when you need something specific. That being said, I've got six of 'em on each version of WICKED, and they're doing a fine job. The beauty of the Bowens are that they're focusable, have a modeling light, and a real reflector so that you can get a more realistic effect out of the unit, especially if you have a lower grid or lighting position. PRG and others should have these units ... I have done a few things since then, so I'm not remembering how we fed them (control was via a HOG II), but I'm sure it was easy to figure out. Hope this helps ... sadly, I'm late getting this email out, but good luck. Kind Regards, Brendan C. Quigley Head Electrician / Vari*Lite Technician WICKED - A New Broadway Musical ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:37:20 -0400 Subject: Re: LDI plans From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <13446707.1160525747047.JavaMail.root [at] m41> Well my halo drifts to about my waist. Bu yeah. That and we wear name badges. On 10/10/06 8:10 PM, "Occy" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > How are us west coaster going to know who you are or do you wear white > flowing robes with a golden halo tracking your every movement above your > head? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Saint" >> --------------------------------------------------- >> There's beer at LDI? I'm shocked. SHOCKED! >> >> I will be wandering the floor on Fri and Sat -- in the afternoons. The >> mornings are for the links. >> >> Joe Saint > > -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ From: "Joe Saint" Subject: RE: LDI plans Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 23:22:12 -0400 Message-ID: <004901c6ece4$71863fc0$640fa8c0 [at] D3G47461> In-Reply-To: Herrick, That's not a halo . . . that's a hula hoop. You know, for kids. (and I think Occy was talking to me) And Occy, for your info, you will know Herrick by his beard, black hat, ringlets, and extra-large tumbler of scotch. Joe Saint President IMCD Lighting 646-415-7588 www.imcdlighting.com -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Herrick Goldman Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:37 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: LDI plans For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Well my halo drifts to about my waist. Bu yeah. That and we wear name badges. On 10/10/06 8:10 PM, "Occy" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > How are us west coaster going to know who you are or do you wear white > flowing robes with a golden halo tracking your every movement above your > head? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Saint" >> --------------------------------------------------- >> There's beer at LDI? I'm shocked. SHOCKED! >> >> I will be wandering the floor on Fri and Sat -- in the afternoons. The >> mornings are for the links. >> >> Joe Saint > > -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 23:36:34 -0400 Subject: Re: LDI plans From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <13737183.1160537147274.JavaMail.root [at] m41> And a happy Succot to you too! Hey I just got it! Saint! Hah. At least we both use our names. Who the heck is OCCY? On 10/10/06 11:22 PM, "Joe Saint" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Herrick, > > That's not a halo . . . that's a hula hoop. You know, for kids. > (and I think Occy was talking to me) > > And Occy, for your info, you will know Herrick by his beard, black hat, > ringlets, and extra-large tumbler of scotch. > -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:26:08 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Tesla coils Message-id: <7.0.1.0.0.20061010221743.01f96f10 [at] interstellar.com> Message-id: <7.0.1.0.0.20061010145129.01fac6c0 [at] interstellar.com> There were some questions about the foam in the shield room... It is NOT acoustic foam, it is radio absorbing foam (same idea, vastly different frequency). The foam is actually black (carbon filled) and painted blue just so the room isn't too dark. It's rigid like polyurethane foam. I have no idea how flammable it is. We did have a bit of a fire but didn't hurt the foam (my client being "hgelpful" plugged the Tesla coil into 240V on the 3rd of 4 days of testing, we got to test out the air vents and smoke detectors). Under the foam and floor (visible around the floor edges and the access door in the lower left) are solid carbon tiles. Under that is welded steel, two layers thick. The entry door looks like a submarine hatch. This room was above ground, but we're moving to a room that's 12 feet underground for added shielding. We rent it by the day when we need it. The people who own these rooms have way more money than I will ever have. If you thought theatre stuff is expensive, price solid carbon tiles... -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com 219 Oak Wood Way, Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Occy" References: Subject: Re: LDI plans Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:30:34 -0700 I am Occy and never forget it... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herrick Goldman" > --------------------------------------------------- > > And a happy Succot to you too! Hey I just got it! Saint! Hah. At least we > both use our names. Who the heck is OCCY? ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Occy" References: Subject: Re: Tesla coils Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:53:54 -0700 Hey boss, Go back to school. Welding rods have flex on them and are only 12" long... ----- Original Message ----- From: --------------------------------------------------- True, and you can build it yourself with 2 welding rods and a neon transformer. /s/ Richard _________________ ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1184.205.215.254.82.1160548337.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 23:32:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Tesla coils From: "Bill Nelson" > Hey boss, > Go back to school. Welding rods have flex on them and are only 12" long... You need to go back to school yourself. There are many welding rods that do not have any flux. The most common are those for gas welding - and these are normally 36" long. I use them all the time. Bull ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1270.205.215.254.82.1160553372.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 00:56:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Tesla coils From: "Bill Nelson" > We were using the coil as a noise source to test things that aren't > in the picture. Of course we had to characterize the coil first > (hence the antenna). One of the stranger things that's been in that room. My high school physics instructor jokingly stated that the spectrum was DC to Daylight. A bit of an exaggeration, but not as great as some might think. There should have been at least one strong peak at the system resonant frequency, if operated in resonant mode. On the one I built, I had a tuneable spark gap to peak the output. Bill ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:16:06 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: LDI plans In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: RSD will have an LDI booth for the first time in many years. Please stop by and visit us in stand #146 and say hello! There are many here whom I have not met in person.... See you then! Charlie | Charlie Richmond - Richmond Sound Design - Skype: charlierichmond | | http://www.RichmondSoundDesign.com "Performance for the Long Run" | ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1292.205.215.254.82.1160554385.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 01:13:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Tesla coils From: "Bill Nelson" > I've had occasion to use a smaller coil for a client where it had to > run for long periods of time. A LOT of ozone comes out of the > arc-gap in it and the electrodes tend to burn over time (think arc > lamp), so the coil output changed throughout the day. You're right, it is a small one. What were the input voltage and current? What was the step up ratio of the coil? Bill ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #978 *****************************