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X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 36608128; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 03:01:48 -0700 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on localhost X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,EMPTY_MESSAGE, NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=no version=3.1.5 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #986 Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 03:01:12 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #986 1. Academic Help by "Maurice Moe Conn" 2. Re: dry ice fog redux by Joe 3. Contact adhesive on painted foam by "Patrick Immel" 4. Re: Contact adhesive on painted foam by "Michael Banvard" 5. Re: dry ice fog redux by Jerry Durand 6. Re: dry ice fog redux by "Bill Nelson" 7. Re: Sound Checks in Dinner Theatre by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 8. Fall harness by Kyle Dugger 9. Re: Sound Checks in Dinner Theatre by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 10. Fall harness by Kyle Dugger 11. Re: Sound Checks in Dinner Theatre by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 12. Re: Fall harness by Clive Mitchell 13. Re: Sound Checks in Dinner Theatre by CB 14. Re: Fall harness by Allison Helms 15. Re: Sound Checks in Dinner Theatre by CB 16. Re: Fall harness by "Tom Heemskerk" 17. Fwd: steel guns full of paint... by Jerry Durand 18. Job posting - Lighting Design by Stephen Litterst 19. Job Posting - Scene Design by Stephen Litterst 20. Re: Sound Checks in Dinner Theatre by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 21. Horse for Into the woods by Philip Johnson 22. Re: Fwd: steel guns full of paint... by Clive Mitchell 23. Re: Sound Checks in Dinner Theatre by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 24. Re: Fall harness by "Delbert Hall" 25. Re: Horse for Into the woods by "Bill Nelson" 26. Re: Horse for Into the woods by "Bill Nelson" 27. Black-and-white or sepia photo effect by John Arrowsmith 28. Re: Black-and-white or sepia photo effect by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Maurice Moe Conn" Subject: Academic Help Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:48:22 +0000 Hello Listers, I teach at a small Faith Based Liberal Arts University. We are on the verge of reducing our Major to a Minor, and have, just yesterday, been told to submit a proposal by this Friday the 20th on why we should keep the Major. (As of May it was going away at the end of this Acad. year). So here are my questions: 1. What do you use as recruiting methods? Do you go to High School fairs? Hold open houses for students? Depend on your Admissions folk? (whatever else I am missing). 2. Do you all have to justify your spending? Do your programs actually Make money? (no no Not your prop shops) Any info you all could provide would be Great!! Like I said, I got 'til Friday to compile info. Please feel free to respond off list. TIA Moe Maurice "Moe" Conn Designer/Technical Director Kohn Theatre University of the Cumberlands 606-539-4520 mconn [at] ucumberlands.edu Help support Long Reach Long Riders 2007 Charity Ride. For Donation and/or Rider information, Check out: www.lrlr.org ------------------------------ Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.0.20061017081825.01d1b0b8 [at] dunfee.com> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:30:33 -0400 From: Joe Subject: Re: dry ice fog redux In-Reply-To: References: Jerry Durand wrote: >For a small stage, we put ice and water in an ice chest, pumped that >through a surplus heat exchanger [...] and used a fan and dryer hose to >blow the smoke from a standard fog machine through the radiator. I've always wondered why the fog was pumped through the radiator in this type of set up. Wouldn't it be better to chill the air before you mix it with the fog? This way the fog won't tend to condense onto the radiator system. Perhaps a fan blows room air into your radiator, anlld then the output from the fog is introduced into the ducting of the exhaust. Finally, another idea (that I've never had opportunity to test) is the use of a window air conditioning unit to generate the cold air. I suspect that the air output may not be cold enough. However, it might be made a bit colder than normal by reducing the airflow through the system. Joe Dunfee joe [at] dunfee.com Gordonville, Pennsylvania, U.S.A. ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 07:49:36 -0500 From: "Patrick Immel" Subject: Contact adhesive on painted foam Hello All, If I had painted pieces of white beadboard, would contact adhesive still work? I have *contacted* unpainted BB together but never painted. The stuff we got in was REALLY dirty and attempts to clean it through compressed air and a water hose proved unsuccessful. I thought that paint would provide a cleaner surface to adhere to. Thanks in advance! Pat -- Patrick Immel Lighting and Scenic Designer Northwest Missouri State University patrickimmel.com VW Designer V12.5 1GB Ram Dual-Core notebook Win XP sp2 ------------------------------ From: "Michael Banvard" Subject: RE: Contact adhesive on painted foam Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:14:56 -0500 Message-ID: <000601c6f1ee$3df51460$c2e9150a [at] Gelert2> In-Reply-To: AAAAACBr/B61B59DqMCfcPvxBIoELk8A Hey there Pat, The problem with your situation is that you are depending on the paint to adhere to the beadboard. You've created multiple layers of adhesion, any one of which could fail. 3M 30NF (30 Neutral) is great for adhering white foam together, without paint. If your beadboard is dirty, nothing is going to get the paint to adhere to it. I would suggest a thick coat of 30 Neutral, without paint. - Michael Banvard IATSE Stagehand, Saint Louis. > If I had painted pieces of white beadboard, would contact > adhesive still work? I have *contacted* unpainted BB > together but never painted. The stuff we got in was REALLY > dirty and attempts to clean it through compressed air and a > water hose proved unsuccessful. I thought that paint would > provide a cleaner surface to adhere to. > > Thanks in advance! > Pat ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:17:52 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: dry ice fog redux In-reply-to: Message-id: <3BA50260-9891-428B-8F11-3A3156B3C285 [at] interstellar.com> References:

On Oct 17, 2006, at 5:30 AM, Joe wrote: > I've always wondered why the fog was pumped through the radiator in > this type of set up. Wouldn't it be better to chill the air before > you mix it with the fog? This way the fog won't tend to condense > onto the radiator system. Perhaps a fan blows room air into your > radiator, anlld then the output from the fog is introduced into the > ducting of the exhaust. Probably just ease of assembly. Taking a radiator with fan attached and hooking a hose to it is easy. Then you just set the fan a short distance away from the generator and let it suck in air/fog/your script/etc. To cool the air first would require you to feed that into something like a Y with the fog coming in the other leg (with that leg sealed against the generator). ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2407.64.28.53.1.1161100068.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:47:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: dry ice fog redux From: "Bill Nelson" > I've always wondered why the fog was pumped through the radiator in > this type of set up. Wouldn't it be better to chill the air before > you mix it with the fog? This way the fog won't tend to condense > onto the radiator system. Perhaps a fan blows room air into your > radiator, anlld then the output from the fog is introduced into the > ducting of the exhaust. If you chill only the air, then the resulting fog/air mixture will be warmer than if you chill both - either before or after mixing. Bill ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:49:33 EDT Subject: Re: Sound Checks in Dinner Theatre In a message dated 17/10/06 00:01:43 GMT Daylight Time, stephen.rees [at] fredonia.edu writes: > The comp tix I got for a preview of Meistersinger in 1998 provided one of > the highlights of my life. Was incredibly fortunate to be in the right > place at the right time. I was in awe. You were incredibly fortunate. I, too, saw that production at Beyreuth, and it was superb. It showed what can be done with a very deep stage and excellent sight lines for the audience. Wagner got the design right, both for the visual and for the acoustic aspects. You would never be allowed to build such a theatre, these days. I don't know how it is in the US, but here in the UK no seat may be more than 14 seats from an aisle. The rear rows there are over sixty seats long, with no aisles. Mind, the local fire service has an appliance parked at the theatre for every performance. I am told that the pump water on to the roof when the weather is very hot, to cool down the theatre. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <45351828.8050501 [at] earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:51:36 -0500 From: Kyle Dugger Subject: Fall harness I am looking for a petzl fall harness. The Newton Fast series. I have been told that this particular harness is not available in North America. Am I just out of luck ot are there other similar harnesses that you are aware of. Here is a link to the harness. The features that I like are the quick connects on the legs and the way the chest strap fastens. I would be open for other options if there are some for North America. This might be a little off topic but I knew that if any group of of people would have some answers for me it would be you. Thanks Kyle ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <3bd.e9dc811.3266746c [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:01:16 EDT Subject: Re: Sound Checks in Dinner Theatre In a message dated 17/10/06 02:22:49 GMT Daylight Time, stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com writes: > > I quote a > > proverb:"It ain't the things we don't know that get us in > > trouble, it's the things we > > know that ain't so". > > Uh...Frank...your quoting that proverb is irony of immense proportions. I don't quite see that. If I say something as a fact, it is either a fact or backed up by well informed opinion. When I post opinion, it is naturally based on my own experience, and couched in such a way as to make this clear. Perhaps some of my earlier posts to the list did not make this evident. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <45351AA6.2000907 [at] earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:02:14 -0500 From: Kyle Dugger Subject: Fall harness I am looking for a petzl fall harness. The Newton Fast series. I have been told that this particular harness is not available in North America. Am I just out of luck ot are there other similar harnesses that you are aware of. Here is a link to the harness. http://en.petzl.com/petzl/ProProduits?Produit=173 The features that I like are the quick connects on the legs and the way the chest strap fastens. I would be open for other options if there are some for North America. This might be a little off topic but I knew that if any group of of people would have some answers for me it would be you. Thanks Kyle ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:24:27 EDT Subject: Re: Sound Checks in Dinner Theatre In a message dated 17/10/06 05:34:40 GMT Daylight Time, ladesigners [at] juno.com writes: > 'The Ring' is the ACID TEST for any Opera Company and > nobody wants the standards to be lowered from when the the operas > were originally staged. It is demanded that the singers will be up to > the challenge. It certainly is, and few companies meet it. Remember that Wagner visualised them in the nineteenth century conventions. My elderly Kobbe has photographs of heroes in furs and horned helmets, against multiple cut cloths. I know that theatre sometimes requires a suspension of disbelief, but when, in "Die Walkyr", Hunding makes his appearance in a bowler hat, black jacket, and striped trousers, carrying a briefcase, my disbelief won't suspend that far. Especially as he has to kill Siegmund in a sword fight later.I have seen this done, and many other nonsenses. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:30:25 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: Fall harness References: In-Reply-To: In message , Kyle Dugger writes >The features that I >like are the quick connects on the legs and the way the chest strap >fastens. I would be open for other options if there are some for North >America. This might be a little off topic but I knew that if any group >of of people would have some answers for me it would be you. Looks like a pretty standard industrial harness. Not so sure about the leg quick connects. I never undo mine. I just step into the harness and pull it up. -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20061017110559.00c4fe98 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:05:59 From: CB Subject: Re: Sound Checks in Dinner Theatre >>Good sound cost money... >>...Good sound can transport your audience in time >>and place far cheaper than your set or lights can > That being said don't the two statments above seem add odds to you. No. Just as lights cost more, amp per effect, than sound does, sound is cheaper than lights or set. There are exceptions, but a really great sound effect tends to cost a lot less than a really good carp effect, or a really good lighting gag. It is the cheapest department with (usually) the smallest crew, can do the lion's share of the work with the least amount of logistics, and still people want to cheap out on it. Even though it is the least expensive of the effects, it still costs money. Money that will have a larger effect ona smaller budget than it would on a larger one, ergo, even small cuts to the budget in the sound dept can have the effect of drastically reducing the effectiveness of the sound design. Hey, it's your show. I've had the argument with directors and producers about changing batts between shows on wireless mics. Sure, they'll probably be fine for the next show, but do you want to save half-a-buck per actor on 'probably'? Again, its' not my place to say how much gets spent. All I can tell you is how much the 'suck' that your getting is saving you. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:41:14 -0400 Subject: Re: Fall harness From: Allison Helms Message-ID: In-Reply-To: The one thing that stood out about that harness to me was the lack of an ANSI standard printed in the notices or mentioned on the website. That could be why you may not be able to find it in the USA. As far as comparable harnesses are concerned... Take a look at DBI Sala, Ultra Safe and Elk River. You can even find a handy selection of these types at http://www.sapsis-rigging.com/OnlineCatalogEntry.html If you have any additional questions about ANSI or OSHA as they pertain to our industry, please feel free to contact me off list. -- Allison Helms Safety Coordinator Sapsis Rigging, Inc 215 228 0888 allison [at] sapsis-rigging.com On 10/17/06 2:02 PM, "Kyle Dugger" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I am looking for a petzl fall harness. > The Newton Fast series. I have > been told that this particular harness > is not available in North > America. Am I just out of luck ot are > there other similar harnesses that > you are aware of. Here is a link to the > harness. > http://en.petzl.com/petzl/ProProduits?Produit=173 > > The features that I > like are the quick connects on the legs > and the way the chest strap > fastens. I would be open for other > options if there are some for North > America. This might be a little off > topic but I knew that if any group > of of people would have some answers for > me it would be you. > > Thanks > > Kyle > ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20061017111245.00c4fe98 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:12:45 From: CB Subject: Re: Sound Checks in Dinner Theatre >"I come from Missouri" (I don't, but I share the attitude of mind attributed >to its denizend). HMMmmm.... I odn't come from Missouri, either, but I, too, share the 'Show me' atribute. Where, in the history of this list, have actual fcts being provided evidenced a change in your perspective? One that you have admitted here, anyways? I'm all for providing effort to educate someone, but I won't stuff those efforts down a dark rabbit hole.... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Tom Heemskerk" Subject: RE: Fall harness Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:44:25 -0700 Here's something similar and readily available, and ANSI and CSA approved: http://www.msanorthamerica.com/catalog/product1203.html > >The features that I >like are the quick connects on the legs and the way the chest strap >fastens. I would be open for other options if there are some for North >America. This might be a little off topic but I knew that if any group >of of people would have some answers for me it would be you. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:30:36 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Fwd: steel guns full of paint... Message-id: <7.0.1.0.0.20061017133001.01f61020 [at] interstellar.com> From another list... >http://www.bravia-advert.com/paint/thead/ I'd hate to be on the cleanup crew for that! -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com 219 Oak Wood Way, Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand ------------------------------ Message-ID: <45354D8A.6090305 [at] gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:39:22 -0400 From: Stephen Litterst Organization: University of Delaware Subject: Job posting - Lighting Design Posting this for Ithaca College. I can answer most questions about the program but anything specific about the position should go to whatever contact info is in the posting. Steve L. -- Assistant or Associate Professor � Lighting Design Ithaca College announces its search for an Assistant or Associate Professor � Lighting Design. The full-time, tenure-eligible position begins August 16, 2007. Duties: teach the lighting design sequence and additional courses which may include Introduction to Theatrical Design, Computer Aided Drafting, Drafting, and Script Analysis; serve as lighting designer on up to three productions annually and supervise student lighting designers; and collaborate with professional staff on the organization and operation of the lighting area. Qualifications: Appropriate terminal degree preferred; bachelor's degree and significant and distinguished professional experience will be considered. The ideal candidate will have teaching experience at the college level, an active professional design career, and expertise in Vectorworks or AutoCAD. The Department of Theatre Arts offers 120 courses to 290 majors within five degree programs: B.F.A. in theatrical production arts (with concentrations in technical production and design), B.F.A. in acting, B.F.A. in musical theatre, B.A. in drama, and B.S. in theatre arts management. The department employs twenty full-time faculty, two continuing adjunct faculty, and seven staff members. Ithaca College Theatre produces six mainstage shows per academic year, including two musicals and an opera. For more information on the department, visit http://www.ithaca.edu/theatre. Visit our website www.icjobs.org for more information and to apply. Screening of applications will begin November 15, 2006, and will continue until the position is filled. Ithaca College is an Affirmative Action/Equal Opportunity Employer. Members of underrepresented groups (including people of color, persons with disabilities, military veterans and women) are encouraged to apply. -- Stephen Litterst Technical Operations Supervisor litterst [at] udel.edu Center for the Arts 302/831-0601 University of Delaware ------------------------------ Message-ID: <45354E9A.9080305 [at] gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:43:54 -0400 From: Stephen Litterst Organization: University of Delaware Subject: Job Posting - Scene Design Posting this for my friends at Ithaca College. Again, I can answer a lot of questions about the program and the environment but anything specific about the position should go to through the links to Ithaca College. Steve L. Assistant or Associate Professor � Scene Design Ithaca College announces its search for an Assistant or Associate Professor � Scene Design in the Department of Theatre Arts. This full-time, tenure-eligible appointment begins August 16, 2007. Duties: teach the scene design sequence and additional courses which may include Design Presentation Techniques, Drafting, Introduction to Design, or Scene Painting; serve as scene designer on up to three productions annually and supervise student scene designers; and collaborate with technical faculty and staff in the supervision of the scenery, props, and paint areas. Qualifications: Appropriate terminal degree preferred; bachelor's degree and significant and distinguished professional experience will be considered. The ideal candidate will have an active professional design career and teaching experience. The Department of Theatre Arts offers 120 courses to 290 majors within five degree programs: B.F.A. in theatrical production arts (with concentrations in technical production and design), B.F.A. in acting, B.F.A. in musical theatre, B.A. in drama, and B.S. in theatre arts management. The department employs twenty full-time faculty, two continuing adjunct faculty, and seven staff members. Ithaca College Theatre produces six mainstage shows per academic year, including two musicals and an opera. For more information on the department, visit http://www.ithaca.edu/theatre.Visit our website www.icjobs.org for more information and to apply. Screening of applications will begin December 1, 2006, and will continue until the position is filled. Ithaca College is an Affirmative Action/Equal Opportunity Employer. Members of underrepresented groups (including people of color, persons with disabilities, military veterans and women) are encouraged to apply. -- Stephen Litterst Technical Operations Supervisor litterst [at] udel.edu Center for the Arts 302/831-0601 University of Delaware ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:01:06 EDT Subject: Re: Sound Checks in Dinner Theatre In a message dated 17/10/06 19:44:51 GMT Daylight Time, psyd [at] cox.net writes: > >"I come from Missouri" (I don't, but I share the attitude of mind attributed > > >to its denizend). > > HMMmmm.... I odn't come from Missouri, either, but I, too, share the 'Show > me' atribute. Where, in the history of this list, have actual fcts being > provided evidenced a change in your perspective? One that you have > admitted here, anyways? Your definition of facts and mine seem to be at variance. You, and many others, seem to believe that a widely and strongly held opinion is a fact. It is not, and I reserve the right to disagree with any opinion expressed, as do you. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:17:15 -0500 Subject: Horse for Into the woods From: Philip Johnson Message-ID: Anyone out there in Texas who has a life size horse we could use for our production of Into the Woods? I need a horse, carousel, standing, stuffed or anything for our production which opens Nov 9th. If you are in Houston, San Antonio or south Texas I can come and get it. I know we can build one but with ACTF next week it would help me keep up with production plans if we could find one. Any help appreciated. Thanks in advance -- Philip Johnson Professor of Theatre Texas A&M University-Corpus Christi ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 01:24:44 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: Fwd: steel guns full of paint... References: In-Reply-To: In message , Jerry Durand writes >>http://www.bravia-advert.com/paint/thead/ > >I'd hate to be on the cleanup crew for that! Makes for a rather colourful view out my kitchen window. I saw a video clip of the advert being made, but didn't realise it was in my hometown until I noticed that a large block of flats had changed colour unexpectedly. :) -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Sound Checks in Dinner Theatre Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:09:45 -0400 Message-ID: <003e01c6f25a$938d0970$6701a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > You, and many > others, seem to believe that a widely and strongly held > opinion is a fact. OK, everyone who *didn't* laugh at Frank's having posted the above, raise your hand. ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:28:35 -0400 From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: Re: Fall harness In-Reply-To: References:

You also might be interested in Yates' all black Riggers Fall Safe Harness Certified to ANSI/OSHA and CAN/CSA full body harness standards http://www.yatesgear.com/rescue/industrial/harnesses/index.htm -Delbert -- Delbert L. Hall ETCP Certified Rigger - Theatre 423-773-4255 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1100.205.215.255.215.1161153666.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:41:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Horse for Into the woods From: "Bill Nelson" > Anyone out there in Texas who has a life size horse we could use for our > production of Into the Woods? I need a horse, carousel, standing, stuffed > or anything for our production which opens Nov 9th. We used a rocking horse on roller skates when we did the show recently. This allowed for a bit of comedy action. For example, when Prince Charming "rides in", he straddles the horse and his Chamberlain (or whatever he is) pulled the horse. When the first step-sister rode out - the chamberlain struggled to pull the horse. When Cindarella rode out, of course it was easy for the chamberlain to pull her. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1104.205.215.255.215.1161153860.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:44:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Horse for Into the woods From: "Bill Nelson" > For example, when Prince Charming "rides in", he straddles the horse and > his Chamberlain (or whatever he is) pulled the horse. When the first > step-sister rode out - the chamberlain struggled to pull the horse. When > Cindarella rode out, of course it was easy for the chamberlain to pull > her. Oops! That should read "... he straddles the horse and walks while his ..." Bill ------------------------------ From: John Arrowsmith Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:26:06 +0100 Message-ID: <2006101810266.024161 [at] arrowsmiths> Subject: Black-and-white or sepia photo effect Aaarggghhh ... tried to search the archives on variations of "black-and-white photo" or "sepia photo" keywords but in every case the search timed out ... I'm sure it's in there somewhere - just can't remember what the recommendations were :(( For a schools drama production, the director is apparently dressing the characters in black-and-white costumes and would like the result to look like either a black-and-white photo or one in sepia tones. I'd prefer sepia myself :) I seem to remember chocolate being recommended as THE filter of choice, but am also very well aware that my memory cells are pretty suspect ... ... can anyone remember the discussion and the recommendation(s) and let me know what they were / where they are ? Show goes out on Friday ... I'll need to buy later today / tomorrow, so prompt-ish would be great :))) John the Somewhat Elderly -- John Arrowsmith (john [at] arrowsmith.demon.co.uk) Voluntary website provider / editor for the annual schools / colleges anti-substance-abuse performing-arts extravaganza called UK Rock Challenge at http://www.rockchallenge.co.uk ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Black-and-white or sepia photo effect Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 05:44:20 -0400 Message-ID: <000201c6f299$fc880ad0$6701a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > For a schools drama production, the director is apparently dressing > the characters in black-and-white costumes and would like the result > to look like either a black-and-white photo or one in sepia > tones. I'd > prefer sepia myself :) Unless you're going to paint their skin, it's going to be very difficult. ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #986 *****************************