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X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 37135289; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 03:02:12 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50,EMPTY_MESSAGE, NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=no version=3.1.5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on localhost X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #998 Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 03:01:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #998 1. Re: sepia lighting effect by John Arrowsmith 2. Re: Vectorworks Textbook by "C. Dopher" 3. Re: Yousendit by "Alf Sauve" 4. Re: Vectorworks Textbook by Kevin Lee Allen 5. Re: College Job Search by "Gillian Koch" 6. Re: Invisibility Cloak by John Arrowsmith 7. Re: StudioColor Photometrics by Michael de Almeida 8. Re: Inventor watching over Niagara Falls by "Bill Conner" 9. Re: Inventor watching over Niagara Falls by Loren Schreiber 10. Re: StudioColor Photometrics by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 11. Dry Ice Fogger: Borrow/Rent by "Edwin Toy" 12. Re: Vectorworks Textbook by Stephen Rees 13. Re: LDI Numbers by Charlie Richmond 14. Re: LDI Numbers by "Limbacher, Jon E." 15. Re: Yousendit by Jerry Durand 16. Inhibitive for dimmers by "Riter, Andrew $Head Ltg$" 17. Re: Inventor watching over Niagara Falls by Clive Mitchell 18. Re: StudioColor Photometrics by "C. Andrew Dunning" 19. eBay - "Advertise on a roadie..." by Stuart Baulch 20. Re: Yousendit and Virus checking by "Alf Sauve" 21. Re: StudioColor Photometrics by "Steven Haworth" 22. Re: Yousendit and Virus checking by Jerry Durand 23. Another Vectorworks question by "Delbert Hall" 24. Drafting Title Boxes by "Riter, Andrew $Head Ltg$" 25. Net2 Node power supply by Andrew Vance 26. Dead Bob's in Orlando by CB 27. Re: the miracle of modern science by CB 28. Re: Inventor watching over Niagara Falls by CB 29. Re: Another Vectorworks question by Kevin Lee Allen 30. Casual Work (Brisbane, Australia) by "Rian Brooks-Kane" 31. Re: Another Vectorworks question by "Delbert Hall" 32. Re: Drafting Title Boxes by "Scott Parker" 33. Re: Drafting Title Boxes by Bill Sapsis 34. Re: Drafting Title Boxes by "Tom Heemskerk" 35. Re: Drafting Title Boxes by Joe Golden 36. Re: Dry Ice Fogger: Borrow/Rent by "Sam Fisher" 37. Re: Group interviews for high school techs?? by "Jeffrey Mulvey" 38. Re: Net2 Node power supply by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 39. Re: Drafting Title Boxes by Herrick Goldman 40. Re: Drafting Title Boxes by Herrick Goldman 41. ETC Idea2 literature by loftlight [at] aol.com *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Arrowsmith Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:20:30 +0100 Message-ID: <20061026112030.158085 [at] arrowsmiths> Subject: Re: sepia lighting effect My HUMONGOUS thanks to everyone who got in touch regarding my inability to search the archives to see if my half-remembered "use chocolate" was correct or not. (And the memory cell (MAYBE cells :) was correct - most of you recommended either a Lee or a Rosco chocolate.) A low-pressure sodium "street light" solution was also suggested - hadn't thought of that at all, but would love to try it one day. Several asked if I could report how the effect looked ... ... HA !! Got to the venue in time to hang some 1k fresnels with chocolate gels to discover ... that the tallescope had been taken out of action as "too dangerous". With no other way up to the fixed grid in what used to be a school hall and the first of some 200+ primary-school children arriving not too long after, I abandoned the plan, so I have no idea what it would have looked like. My thanks also to those who suggested that audiences would soon grow uncomfortable with the effect ... I really wanted to see if that happened too :( Ah well ... another time / another place / another play, maybe :)) John in the rain -- John Arrowsmith (john [at] arrowsmith.demon.co.uk) Voluntary website provider / editor for the annual schools / colleges anti-substance-abuse performing-arts extravaganza called UK Rock Challenge at http://www.rockchallenge.co.uk ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <2EC7235D-AF6F-4D12-8C76-0D1C56CF9AB0 [at] dopher.com> From: "C. Dopher" Subject: Re: Vectorworks Textbook Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 07:41:36 -0400 Stephen Rees wrote: > > We have been using Vectorworks for about 7 or 8 years now in our > undergraduate program and have found that it is possible for > students to > become very facile with the software very quickly without an actual > text. > There are tutorials that are of assistance and are available for > for folks > to use, but there has been great success in just working with the > software > and learning by doing, going to HELP when necessary and just lots of > practice. On the other hand, if you students signed up to take a Vectorworks class, then they are expecting (and the teacher is being paid to teach) a structured course with concepts, tools, and commands taught in a methodical, comprehensive manner, NOT a whole lot of "check the help files" and "experiment around with it". That's great for working with the program at home, but in the computer lab, IMO, the instruction should be every bit as directional as teaching shop students how to build a flat. I'm not discounting students' abilities to extrapolate and synthesize and grow their skills on their own, but mere exploring rarely leads to a full understanding of the program, nor the most efficient uses of their drafting time. It's also been my experience that even the experts could usually use some retraining when they prepare to start teaching Vectorworks - they're often not cognizant of several tools, commands, and modes of working that should end up in the classwork somewhere. All that said, back to June's post: For Vectorworks textbooks, you might contact Geoff McBeath at Resolve Software. 866.288.1888. He and his company have written a series of textbooks, one per component, that covers the program in far greater (and more helpful) detail than anything I've seen so far. You could start with the Fundamentals book, work through it in a few weeks of classroom instruction, then move on into Architect, Spotlight, and Renderworks books. Those four would quite fill a semester course and comprehensivelly teach 90% of the program. And for the full disclosure honesty thing: Yes, I work for him. But I'm not obligated to promote Resolve, especially on this list. The books are good; I've been encouraging him to put those textbooks out on the virtual shelves of the academic publishing world - or maybe even the real bookstores. I'm convinced they would sell well. Cris Dopher Vectorworks Trainer ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Yousendit Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 07:40:28 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Alf Sauve" Question: How does your server know it's an executable file? Is it because the extension is ".exe"? Have you tried just renaming the file to ".xyz" or ".doc" then sending it? This has helped me circumvent some firewalls. Also, zipping it might be another alternative, not to mention it might reduce the size a little. Two tests to try. One take an executable, rename it with a ".doc" extension and see if you get it. Second test, take a document file and rename it with an ".exe" and see if it gets bounced. Alf -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Jerry Durand Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 1:48 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Yousendit For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- A vendor was just trying to send me a patch file, but since it came as an executable file, our server happily bounced each try back to him (with a message that we don't accept executable files). Anyway, he resent it using a service I hadn't run across, http://www.yousendit.com/ It's free, I just tried sending a file to myself and it worked with no hassle. Files up to 100MB are ok without you having to even sign up to anything. -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com 219 Oak Wood Way, Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 08:18:01 -0400 From: Kevin Lee Allen Subject: Re: Vectorworks Textbook In-reply-to: Message-id: References:

On Oct 26, 2006, at 7:41 AM, C. Dopher wrote: > Stephen Rees wrote: >> We have been using Vectorworks for about 7 or 8 years now in our >> undergraduate program and have found that it is possible for >> students to >> become very facile with the software very quickly without an >> actual text. >> There are tutorials that are of assistance and are available for >> for folks >> to use, but there has been great success in just working with the >> software >> and learning by doing, going to HELP when necessary and just lots of >> practice. > > On the other hand, if you students signed up to take a Vectorworks > class, then they are expecting (and the teacher is being paid to > teach) a structured course with concepts, tools, and commands > taught in a methodical, comprehensive manner, NOT a whole lot of > "check the help files" and "experiment around with it". That's > great for working with the program at home, but in the computer > lab, IMO, the instruction should be every bit as directional as > teaching shop students how to build a flat. Just as it is not possible to look at the description and illustration in Parker's book and know how to build a flat, we all must experiment with software to learn how to use the software. VectorWorks, especially Designer, is a vast program. There are many ways to achieve the same end result. Especially in the theatre. There was one post on the VectorWorks list by an architect who did not use the wall tools, rather he sculpted the building by modeling a mass and subtracting the rooms, doors, windows and the like. From an instructional point of view, i have tried to present the tools logically (that could be an entire debate) and then have the students experiment with using the tools. They are now putting that information together in assembling a complex model, we'll follow that up with some industry specific applications. This is one semester of CAD Drafting, the second semester of Drafting in a four year professional program. It is very challenging to squeeze VectorWorks into one semester. Frankly, the help files, the manuals, the online resources and the mailing lists are an integral part of learning how to use the program. The teacher is not always going to be there for the student, but these other resources are available. Especially when the student likes to work at 3AM and the teacher likes to sleep at 3AM. there is someone awake, somewhere and online. Take a tool like "Revolve around Rail," one we have been wrestling with for several weeks. It requires experimentation. > I'm not discounting students' abilities to extrapolate and > synthesize and grow their skills on their own, but mere exploring > rarely leads to a full understanding of the program, nor the most > efficient uses of their drafting time. It's also been my > experience that even the experts could usually use some retraining > when they prepare to start teaching Vectorworks - they're often not > cognizant of several tools, commands, and modes of working that > should end up in the classwork somewhere. absolutely. > For Vectorworks textbooks, you might contact Geoff McBeath at > Resolve Software. 866.288.1888. He and his company have written a > series of textbooks, one per component, that covers the program in > far greater (and more helpful) detail than anything I've seen so > far. You could start with the Fundamentals book, work through it > in a few weeks of classroom instruction, then move on into > Architect, Spotlight, and Renderworks books. Those four would > quite fill a semester course and comprehensivelly teach 90% of the > program. These: http://www.resolve.ca/training.html They look interesting and I would be interested in reviewing them, but i would consider them expensive for the students. ----- Kevin Lee Allen Architect of Dreams http://www.klad.com 973.744.6352.voice 201.280.3841.mobile klad [at] klad.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <7daa121e0610260550v1bfbc996nc99b02f15f3deb67 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 08:50:02 -0400 From: "Gillian Koch" Subject: Re: College Job Search D'oh! Realized I should've been a little more specific with where I wanted to be. Although staying in Philly or the New York area (since that's where I originally hail from) would be great, like most people my age, I'm more than willing to travel. Anyone have any six-month long tours coming up? =) Thanks again, Gillian Koch ME/ALD Drexel University I assume you're looking to stay in Philly, ja? I'm sure any of the theatres in Philly would be great to work at, but if those don't pan out you could try some of the ones in the 'burbs. I worked at The Peoples' Light in Malvern for a number of years after I graduated. It's a great place to work, and not *terribly* far from the R5. Anyway, good luck with the search! Fred "Big Fred" Schoening Technical Director, Dallas Theater Center Dallas, Texas, USA -----Original Message----- >From: Gillian Koch >Sent: Oct 25, 2006 6:58 PM >To: Stagecraft >Subject: College Job Search > >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > >Hi List: > >I'm an engineering student at Drexel University beginning the first of >three co-op opportunities. For those of you who don't know, Drexel has >an extensive program where, depending on the student's chosen study >program (either four-year or five-year), they have up to three >separate six-month-long opportunities to essentially become members of >the workforce while still students of the university. ------------------------------ From: John Arrowsmith Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:10:18 +0100 Message-ID: <20061026111018.339737 [at] arrowsmiths> Subject: Re: Invisibility Cloak Les Lind wrote "Photos or vids won't help. Can't see anything. Invisible don't you know..." I'm not responding :)) John ;-) -- John Arrowsmith (john [at] arrowsmith.demon.co.uk) Voluntary website provider / editor for the annual schools / colleges anti-substance-abuse performing-arts extravaganza called UK Rock Challenge at http://www.rockchallenge.co.uk ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Michael de Almeida Subject: Re: StudioColor Photometrics Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 09:04:16 -0400 Hello, You should contact High End and ask them how the beam shaping works. According to the manual there's no decrease in light output, that leads me to believe that you can shape the light in standard ovaloid patterns. Regular geometry along with the photometric data available on their website will get you what you're looking for. Good luck. Mike de Almeida ATD/ME/MA Phone: (860) 560-0771 Theaterworks, Hartford e-mail: humhead [at] comcast.net ------------------------------ Message-ID: <004301c6f901$d10cfa50$596414ac [at] BCA1> Reply-To: "Bill Conner" From: "Bill Conner" Subject: Re: Inventor watching over Niagara Falls Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 08:22:36 -0500 Frank posted: I believe that George Izenour tried them out, because of the ease of control. I also believe that they failed him, in the long run. I worked with them in grad school and it wasn't until some years after I left that they were replaced. I believe they actually worked better than the mag amps but the solid stage devices simply replaced the tubes in dimmers like they did in everything else. Bill Conner, ASTC ETCP CR-T ------------------------------ Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20061026064401.036dcaa8 [at] mail.sdsu.edu> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 06:47:09 -0700 From: Loren Schreiber Subject: Re: Inventor watching over Niagara Falls In-Reply-To: References: Actually, Chris "Chris" they are purpose-trained hamsters. Check your facts. Loren Schreiber >That's not very nice. Frank was the one that taught me that Nici invented >the electron. Before that, electrical power had to be carried from the >transformers to the dimmers, through the console and all the way out to the >lights, by small ferrets, purpose trained in theatrical lighting. > Chris "Chris" Babbie > Location Sound > MON AZ ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: StudioColor Photometrics Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 10:02:03 -0400 Message-ID: <001601c6f907$50eacbd0$6701a8c0 [at] Dell> In-reply-to: > I design rigs=20 > from what I know The greatest engineering, artistic, and political disasters have been = caused by people who eschewed actual data and relied upon what they were *sure* = was so. ------------------------------ From: "Edwin Toy" Subject: Dry Ice Fogger: Borrow/Rent Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 10:48:10 -0400 Message-ID: For a production in April, I need to barrow/rent a dry ice fogger in the Wilmington, Delaware area. Would prefer the 55gal. drum variety. Any suggestions in pinning one down? My Deepest Gratitude: Edwin Toy The Pierre S. du Pont Arts Center Wilmington, DE ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 10:54:37 -0400 Subject: Re: Vectorworks Textbook From: Stephen Rees Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Hi, > > On the other hand, if you students signed up to take a Vectorworks > class, then they are expecting (and the teacher is being paid to > teach) a structured course with concepts, [snip] As it is. The faculty member indeed has a syllabus, a plan and goals. Only so much gets covered in the actual class period by period, however. There is as much learning accomplished by building on the classroom work later in the laboratory situation on the student's time when the faculty is not present. That is where the usefulness of knowing how to use help, etc comes into play. They are not just bumbling around in the dark. > > I'm not discounting students' abilities to extrapolate and synthesize > and grow their skills on their own, but mere exploring rarely leads > to a full understanding of the program, nor the most efficient uses > of their drafting time. It's also been my experience that even the > experts could usually use some retraining when they prepare to start > teaching Vectorworks - they're often not cognizant of several tools, > commands, and modes of working that should end up in the classwork > somewhere. And I fall into this category as well. :) > > All that said, back to June's post: > > For Vectorworks textbooks, you might contact Geoff McBeath at Resolve > Software. 866.288.1888. [snip] Thanks for this bit of info. > > Cris Dopher > Vectorworks Trainer Steve Rees, SUNY-Fredonia ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:46:50 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: LDI Numbers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: On Wed, 25 Oct 2006, John Huntington wrote: >> From > http://livedesignonline.com/ldi/ldi_has_record_year_awards_best_debuting_products/ > > ... record attendance and exhibit space, *... Early numbers showed > attendance at an all-time high of over 13,500*. They must have all been out the back 'cause we didn't see them!! C ------------------------------ Message-ID: <29D44C682550C9448E8693A79485BBC7017DDC94 [at] a339server1.agent339.lighting.net> From: "Limbacher, Jon E." Subject: RE: LDI Numbers Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 10:31:20 -0500 They must have been hiding behind LED curtains. Jon -----Original Message----- From: Charlie Richmond [mailto:charlier [at] RichmondSoundDesign.com] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:47 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: LDI Numbers > > ... record attendance and exhibit space, *... Early numbers showed > attendance at an all-time high of over 13,500*. They must have all been out the back 'cause we didn't see them!! C ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 09:08:57 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Yousendit In-reply-to: Message-id: <7.0.1.0.0.20061026090128.01f11820 [at] interstellar.com> References: At 04:40 AM 10/26/2006, Alf Sauve wrote: >Question: How does your server know it's an executable file? Is it >because the extension is ".exe"? It scans for recognized executable file names (it will also go into a zip inside a zip)). I'm using Amavisd on Mac OS X Tiger Server. >Two tests to try. One take an executable, rename it with a ".doc" >extension and see if you get it. Second test, take a document file and >rename it with an ".exe" and see if it gets bounced. Still bounces. I took a .exe file and renamed it .txt, didn't work. I took a text file and renamed it .exe, bounced. >BANNED CONTENTS ALERT > >Our content checker found > banned name: multipart/mixed | > application/octet-stream,.exe,.exe-ms,icc430.txt > >in email presumably from you >to the following recipient: >BANNED CONTENTS ALERT > >Our content checker found > banned name: multipart/mixed | text/plain,.asc,test.exe > >in email presumably from you >to the following recipient: -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com 219 Oak Wood Way, Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand ------------------------------ Subject: Inhibitive for dimmers Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 09:52:36 -0700 Message-ID: <0E0CDE94AC5F92428C823684D00244E609299AE4 [at] exchange10.mercury.ad.ubc.ca> From: "Riter, Andrew $Head Ltg$" In case it's not too late, try this: the 300 should have an AutoMod feature. This feature lets you, on the = fly, have an existing channel take the intensities (and attributes and = focus points) of another channel. The theory is that if the warm AA = light burns out during the show, you can AutoMod the cool light for the = same area, and it will come on when the warm is called for. If both are = called for in the scene, then its HTP. How this might help Stephen, is that he can patch a new channel with the = dimmer, have it Automod the original channel, and then program out the = cue with the discrete entrance. this would save having to re-record the = new channel through the entire show. (Although AutoMod will do that too, = if you ask). Food for thought. your mileage may vary. Andrew M. Riter Head Lighting Technician Chan Centre for the Performing Arts University of British Columbia 6265 Crescent Road Vancouver, BC, V6T 1Z1 604-822-2372 604-822-1606 fax chanlights [at] exchange.ubc.ca ************* You understand, we are tied down to a language which makes up in = obscurity what it lacks in style =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Stoppard, R&G are Dead ********************* ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 18:05:57 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: Inventor watching over Niagara Falls References:

In-Reply-To: In message , Bill Nelson writes >> I think one of the reasons is to simplify phasing. you can lock your >> inverter up to the local supply. I think that the France-England power link >> is DC, which avoids having to synchronise the two networks. > >That is probably the major reason. Less losses through capacitive and perhaps induction effects too. -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "C. Andrew Dunning" Subject: RE: StudioColor Photometrics Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 12:17:10 -0500 Organization: Landru Design In-Reply-To: Message-ID: HES (and their lit) was my first call. No real answers to my questions, there... >-----Original Message----- >From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf >Of Michael de Almeida >Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:04 AM >To: Stagecraft >Subject: Re: StudioColor Photometrics > >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > >--------------------------------------------------- > >Hello, > > You should contact High End and ask them how the beam >shaping works. According to the manual there's no decrease in >light output, that leads me to believe that you can shape the >light in standard ovaloid patterns. Regular geometry along >with the photometric data >available on their website will get you what you're looking for. >Good luck. > > >Mike de Almeida >ATD/ME/MA Phone: (860) 560-0771 >Theaterworks, Hartford e-mail: humhead [at] comcast.net > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:27:26 -0400 Subject: eBay - "Advertise on a roadie..." In-Reply-To: References: From: Stuart Baulch Message-Id: <1161883646.D83B256 [at] fd6.dngr.org> http://cgi.ebay.com/Advertise-on-a-roadie-at-Red-Hot-Chili-Peppers-concert_W0QQitemZ320040686794QQihZ011QQcategoryZ53274QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem or http://tinyurl.com/yfn9gw ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Yousendit and Virus checking Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:55:50 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Alf Sauve" =20 Cool, yours is obviously more advanced than others, though it bounced a text file just because of the extension. Ours here use to only go by the extension (exe, com, and bat). I finally convinced them that the cost and frustration outweighed the benefit. Now they just scan for known viruses. Got to be some other Trojan horse you could use. =20 Encryption might thwart Amavisd, unless it's uses a "when in doubt, bounce" rule. Ah, here's from the features of Amavisd,=20 "user individuality, quarantine * can specify subgroups of users who want to receive viruses or spam" Maybe your admin can change your personal settings.=20 Alf -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Jerry Durand Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:09 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Yousendit For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- At 04:40 AM 10/26/2006, Alf Sauve wrote: >Question: How does your server know it's an executable file? Is it >because the extension is ".exe"? It scans for recognized executable file names (it will also go into a zip inside a zip)). I'm using Amavisd on Mac OS X Tiger Server. >Two tests to try. One take an executable, rename it with a ".doc" >extension and see if you get it. Second test, take a document file and >rename it with an ".exe" and see if it gets bounced. Still bounces. I took a .exe file and renamed it .txt, didn't work. I took a text file and renamed it .exe, bounced. >BANNED CONTENTS ALERT > >Our content checker found > banned name: multipart/mixed | > application/octet-stream,.exe,.exe-ms,icc430.txt > >in email presumably from you to the=20 >following recipient: >BANNED CONTENTS ALERT > >Our content checker found > banned name: multipart/mixed | text/plain,.asc,test.exe > >in email presumably from you to the=20 >following recipient: -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com 219 Oak Wood Way, Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand ------------------------------ Subject: RE: StudioColor Photometrics Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:17:00 -0500 Message-ID: <5D5187063B6B8B46A99E8C0D36E0EB0901AAA8F9 [at] danube.river.idm.com> In-Reply-To: From: "Steven Haworth" Does anyone have a copy of the Photometric Handbook available? Maybe that has something (mine's at home right now). Frank, we need that info because we're often designing rigs w/instruments we haven't used before, or that are rental instruments that are new to us. And, w/automated instruments with beam-shaping / frost options, and it's sometimes hard to know just what you'll get out of it, and therefore how many you'll need and how to space them in your design. I agree on one point - we don't often care about exact photometric levels on stage (unless we're doing TV or film), but you do want to know how many fixtures are needed to cover area X by Y in a dark blue; then the output and beam spread of the instrument are needed. Ahead of time - since w/rentals you can't add an extra 2 weeks to play w/it before your design needs to be done. - Steven (sjh [at] idm.com) --------------------------- http://www.stagelights.info=20 >> Might one of you have photometric data for StudioColor 575s=20 >- with oval >> beam-shaping applied? I'm especially interested in the=20 >beam angles for the >> 2 axis. I've contacted High End, but, surprisingly, they=20 >don't have that >> info... > >I am always baffled by the US obsession with photometric data.=20 >I design rigs=20 >from what I know of the lanterns' capabilities, and I set the=20 >looks by eye.=20 >Both have been informed by long experience, and, if I dare say=20 >it, ny artistic=20 >judgement. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:36:36 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Yousendit and Virus checking In-reply-to: Message-id: <7.0.1.0.0.20061026113501.01f10af8 [at] interstellar.com> References: At 10:55 AM 10/26/2006, Alf Sauve wrote: >Maybe your admin can change your personal settings. Actually, I'm the admin for several domains, only had two people have a problem with the bouncing, one used yousendit, the other just encrypted the file and sent it with a password. For sending, we just put them up on the server and post a link, only takes a minute. -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com 219 Oak Wood Way, Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:10:57 -0400 From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: Another Vectorworks question OK, I want to create some front (painter's) elevations for a scenic design using Vectorworks (12.5). My thought is to create the textures that I want in Photoshop and then use them in Vectorworks as "fills" (images). How do I do this? Is there a better way to accomplish what I want to do? Also, how can I edit the fill images that are already in Vectorworks (I can't seem to file the individual files). Thanks. -Delbert -- Delbert L. Hall ETCP Certified Rigger - Theatre 423-773-4255 ------------------------------ Subject: Drafting Title Boxes Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:25:36 -0700 Message-ID: <0E0CDE94AC5F92428C823684D00244E609299AE6 [at] exchange10.mercury.ad.ubc.ca> From: "Riter, Andrew $Head Ltg$" Hi everyone, I know this has been covered yearly, but . . .=09 What do people like to see in a title box on a lighting plot = (Typically)? We're a multi-space venue at a university, with both tours, school = productions, and unsupported events coming in. We have a black box = studio and a concert hall. I've got: Drawing Name Venue Name Date Scale Drawn By: Revision # Building Name and address and phone/fax number (mine) Sheet number: File name (for CADD users) Image of building logo Other ideas? Lx Designer (obviously, although Drwn by can be typed over) Andrew M. Riter Head Lighting Technician Chan Centre for the Performing Arts University of British Columbia 6265 Crescent Road Vancouver, BC, V6T 1Z1 604-822-2372 604-822-1606 fax chanlights [at] exchange.ubc.ca ************* You understand, we are tied down to a language which makes up in = obscurity what it lacks in style =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Stoppard, R&G are Dead ********************* ------------------------------ Message-Id: From: Andrew Vance Subject: Net2 Node power supply Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:27:27 -0400 The power supply on my ETC Net2 video node suddenly stopped working last weekend. It doesn't output any voltage on the node side of the supply. [And yes, the we know that there is power going to the circuit its plugged into.] So now we need to replace this. My local supplier didn't seem to think that ETC sold these and suggested going to a Radio Hack-like store and picking up a wall-wort. Problem is, we can't seem to find one with the proper output voltage/amperage. Any thoughts on where we might be able to pick one up? Are we just looking in the wrong spots? David Fox, do you have any insight? -- Sincerely, Andrew Vance Lighting Designer atvanceld [at] gmail.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20061026130048.017c85e8 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:00:48 From: CB Subject: Dead Bob's in Orlando >Have them put you up at the Holiday Inn; right down the street, >walking distance to the gig. Ehm, it's an "Amercia's Best Rathole" or something now. Stayed there for 'King and I", and the diner was closed so that they could us it as the front desk, the front desk was a construction zone (bare bulb drop lights and 2x4 steel framing, concrete floor littered with construction debris, lifts, scaff, heavy machinery, etc.) the elevator was being used as a construction lift for logistics and debris, everything had a fine coat of GWB and mud dust on it, the windows in my room had been converted to french doors, the curtains hadn't, my 10 AM wake-up call was pre-empted by the song of a hammer drill, a sawzall, and circ-saw attempting harmony (poorly) at 6 AM, and I have a bad hapit os sleeping in the buff. Bad, because by the timne I got up, the guys that were having lunch on the scaff outside my window were a bit less uncomfortable than I'd have liked them to be, staring at me naked in my hotel room as they were. The kind folk at the Marriott gave me a great rate, though. Seventh floor room that I could see the stage door from, and once they learned that the Compony Mangler had stolen the great rate that I had wrnagled form them (his name was also Chris, he was also with "King and I", he was also staying at the old HI and hating it, you can see how they got there) they had to giveme a better rate, seeing as he was responsible for booking us in the construction zone in the first place, adn had made arrangements for the actors (better union) to stay elsewhere and get transpo, and had made arrangements for him to stay at the Marriott befor (actually, without considering) the rest of the crew. Thanks, but I've too many bad memories associated with the place. Oh, and they didnt' care. I've great photos somewhere if you're interested. OTOH, the local sound guy invited me & The Mound to a great lil halloween party. Very social, quiet, nice beer & food, just what we needed. >CB, he of the short postings, mused: I'm sure I don' know what you mean. ; > Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20061026131036.017c85e8 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:10:36 From: CB Subject: Re: the miracle of modern science >> >what did he invent that is used in modern theater that >> >Frank Wood doesn't completely understand? >> Subtlety? >This demands a subtle definition. I >> Color? >As needed. Day and night are different, >> More than one way to approach a design issue? >As an LD, this is largely determined by the director and set designer. >> Respect for the opinions of others? >Hard question. Opinions stated as such, I dispute. I may argue with reality. >Opinions stated as facts, I tend to resemble. Nope, it was Sarcasm! Thanks for playing, we have some nice consolation prizes for you in the back! Tell 'im what he's won, Johnny! Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20061026131232.017c85e8 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:12:32 From: CB Subject: Re: Inventor watching over Niagara Falls >I thought it was Hampsters, not to be confused with hamsters He has intructed me that Hampsters are where the soft goods are stored. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 17:34:02 -0400 From: Kevin Lee Allen Subject: Re: Another Vectorworks question In-reply-to: Cc: delbert.hall [at] gmail.com (Delbert Hall) Message-id: <16D0A0C8-14E5-4463-9055-3965A09A79FF [at] klad.com> References: I create the fills in PhotoShop at actual size, BUT a very low DPI, so the wall may be 12' tall and 20' log, but only 5-10 DPI. If you wan them to tile, they do not have to be full size. There is a selection on the Attributes Palette for FIll with Image, including a variety of options for placement and scale. This assumes you are working in 2D. If you Control-Click or Right-Click on the Resource Browser window, you will be able to access a fly off menu from "New Resource" that allows you to import Images that you can assign as a fill in the Attributes Palette. Not knowing exactly what you'd like to accomplish, i would say this is an excellent approach. On Oct 26, 2006, at 3:10 PM, Delbert Hall wrote: > OK, I want to create some front (painter's) elevations for a scenic > design using Vectorworks (12.5). My thought is to create the textures > that I want in Photoshop and then use them in Vectorworks as "fills" > (images). How do I do this? Is there a better way to accomplish what > I want to do? Also, how can I edit the fill images that are already > in Vectorworks (I can't seem to file the individual files). Thanks. ----- Kevin Lee Allen Architect of Dreams http://www.klad.com 973.744.6352.voice 201.280.3841.mobile klad [at] klad.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4618459e0610261520y1ab4f23fm4117e400e0ed5f73 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:20:27 +1000 From: "Rian Brooks-Kane" Reply-To: rian [at] gmail.com Subject: Casual Work (Brisbane, Australia) Hello, My name is Rian Brooks-Kane, I'm 18 years old and currently studying audio engineering at SAE (as well as working IT Support for Education Queensland) I am currently looking for some casual work or even volunteer work with theatre companies/performance venues/production companies. I have worked mainly in theatres, with just finishing a semi-pro production of "Godspell" I am mainly interested in sound, but i have had a hand in everything (from pushing black boxes to operating consoles). I am located in Brisbane, Australia (about 10 Min's from city). I can provide you with a CV on request. Feel free to email me or Call me on my mobile. (0433812355) Regards, Rian Brooks-Kane -- Rian Brooks-Kane M: 0433812355 www.rianbk.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 18:33:39 -0400 From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: Re: Another Vectorworks question In-Reply-To: References:

Thanks Kevin, that works great. I have a lot of textures that came with Google's Sketchup that I can now use VW. This is exactly what I wanted to do. You da man! -Delbert On 10/26/06, Kevin Lee Allen wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > I create the fills in PhotoShop at actual size, BUT a very low DPI, > so the wall may be 12' tall and 20' log, but only 5-10 DPI. If you > wan them to tile, they do not have to be full size. > > There is a selection on the Attributes Palette for FIll with Image, > including a variety of options for placement and scale. This assumes > you are working in 2D. > > If you Control-Click or Right-Click on the Resource Browser window, > you will be able to access a fly off menu from "New Resource" that > allows you to import Images that you can assign as a fill in the > Attributes Palette. > > Not knowing exactly what you'd like to accomplish, i would say this > is an excellent approach. > > > > > > > On Oct 26, 2006, at 3:10 PM, Delbert Hall wrote: > > > OK, I want to create some front (painter's) elevations for a scenic > > design using Vectorworks (12.5). My thought is to create the textures > > that I want in Photoshop and then use them in Vectorworks as "fills" > > (images). How do I do this? Is there a better way to accomplish what > > I want to do? Also, how can I edit the fill images that are already > > in Vectorworks (I can't seem to file the individual files). Thanks. > > > ----- > Kevin Lee Allen > Architect of Dreams > http://www.klad.com > 973.744.6352.voice > 201.280.3841.mobile > klad [at] klad.com > > > > -- Delbert L. Hall ETCP Certified Rigger - Theatre 423-773-4255 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <90d9c9980610261704m3af9199ak16b1de071c063bcc [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 20:04:07 -0400 From: "Scott Parker" Subject: Re: Drafting Title Boxes In-Reply-To: References: Revision Date? You have sheet number, but also "of". As is sheet 1 of 3... Perhaps email? Scott On 10/26/06, Riter, Andrew (Head Ltg) wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hi everyone, I know this has been covered yearly, but . . . > > What do people like to see in a title box on a lighting plot (Typically)? > -- Thanks and take care, Scott Scott C. Parker Professor/Technical Director Dept. of Performing Arts Dyson College of Arts and Sciences [at] Pace University Office/shipping: 41 Park Row, 1205F Mailing: 1 Pace Plaza New York, NY 10038 212-346-1423 Fax: 914-989-8425 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 20:20:46 -0400 Subject: Re: Drafting Title Boxes From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Coffee mug stain? Bill S. ETCP Certified Rigger - Theatre ETCP Council Member www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 267.278.4561 mobile On 10/26/06 4:25 PM, "Riter, Andrew (Head Ltg)" wrote: > What do people like to see in a title box on a lighting plot (Typically)? ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Tom Heemskerk" Subject: RE: Drafting Title Boxes Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 17:52:35 -0700 Are you talking house lx plot? If not.... Show/event name Producer, client and/or production-company name _________________________________________________________________ Buy, Load, Play. The new Sympatico / MSN Music Store works seamlessly with Windows Media Player. Just Click PLAY. http://musicstore.sympatico.msn.ca/content/viewer.aspx?cid=SMS_Sept192006 ------------------------------ From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Joe=20Golden?= Subject: Re: Drafting Title Boxes Date: 26 Oct 2006 17:52:40 -0700 Message-ID: I have a VW symbol of one if anybody wants... Joe Golden Sent from my Treo -----Original Message----- From: Bill Sapsis Coffee mug stain? Bill S. On 10/26/06 4:25 PM, "Riter, Andrew (Head Ltg)" = wrote: > What do people like to see in a title box on a lighting plot = (Typically)? ------------------------------ From: "Sam Fisher" Subject: RE: Dry Ice Fogger: Borrow/Rent Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 20:58:18 -0400 Message-ID: <004401c6f962$fe17ed50$180aa8c0 [at] ftoffice.local> In-Reply-To: For a production in April, I need to barrow/rent a dry ice fogger in the Wilmington, Delaware area. Would prefer the 55gal. drum variety. Any suggestions in pinning one down? Fisher Theatrical has several LSG CO2 fog units in Hanover, MD Jim Shomo, a freelance designer, about 30 minutes from you has and old larger City Theatrical dry ice unit. BSL in Baltimore has a pair of Aqua fog units. ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 18:31:27 -0700 From: "Jeffrey Mulvey" Subject: Re: Group interviews for high school techs?? In-Reply-To: References: Anyone know of anything like this in northern California? I'm a senior in the Sacramento area looking at four year schools, hoping to tech but not knowing what I should study or major in. Any and all guidence is appreciated on or off list. Jeff Mulvey ------------------------------ From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Net2 Node power supply Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 22:05:54 -0400 Message-ID: <005c01c6f96c$725e88a0$7401a8c0 [at] pepys> In-Reply-To: > Any thoughts on where we might be able to pick one up? www.mouser.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.12/499 - Release Date: 10/26/2006 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 22:42:04 -0400 Subject: Re: Drafting Title Boxes From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1849598.1161907784495.JavaMail.root [at] m41> UM.... TITLE of Plate SCALE!!!!! I mean Really... SCALE!!!! I have producer, director, drawn by, date, rev date, sheet 1 of 99, my name, number , email I also usually have something pithy. Go figure. On 10/26/06 8:04 PM, "Scott Parker" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Revision Date? > You have sheet number, but also "of". As is sheet 1 of 3... > Perhaps email? > > Scott > > On 10/26/06, Riter, Andrew (Head Ltg) wrote: >> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >> --------------------------------------------------- >> >> Hi everyone, I know this has been covered yearly, but . . . >> >> What do people like to see in a title box on a lighting plot (Typically)? >> -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 22:42:26 -0400 Subject: Re: Drafting Title Boxes From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <32805286.1161908688628.JavaMail.root [at] m41> I've got that! Thanks to Salzberg. n 10/26/06 8:20 PM, "Bill Sapsis" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Coffee mug stain? > > Bill S. > ETCP Certified Rigger - Theatre > ETCP Council Member > www.sapsis-rigging.com > 800.727.7471 > 267.278.4561 mobile > > > > > > > On 10/26/06 4:25 PM, "Riter, Andrew (Head Ltg)" > wrote: > >> What do people like to see in a title box on a lighting plot (Typically)? > > > -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ References:

Subject: ETC Idea2 literature Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 01:15:43 -0400 In-Reply-To: From: loftlight [at] aol.com Message-Id: <8C8C79E160F559F-1590-78E [at] mblk-d47.sysops.aol.com> Hi Folks, Just wondering if any you out there in ETC land might know where I can find a manual and product literature for the Idea2 console? Thanks in advance, Aaron AAron Meadow Lighting Designer P/Fx 212-995-1120 Cell 917-656-1639 LoftLight [at] aol.com www.meadowlight.com ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #998 *****************************