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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #1076

 1. Re: Sound Specs
    by "Occy" <OneOccy [at] hotmail.com>
 2. Re: new ideas for the stage tech olympics...
    by "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>
 3. Re: Sound Specs
    by Stephen Litterst <litterst.stagecraft [at] gmail.com>
 4. realistic dock planking
    by "Storms, Randy" <rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu>
 5. Re: realistic dock planking
    by Stephen Litterst <litterst.stagecraft [at] gmail.com>
 6. Re: realistic dock planking
    by "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>
 7. Re: Sound Specs
    by Rigger <rigger [at] tds.net>
 8. Re: new ideas for the stage tech olympics...
    by Rigger <rigger [at] tds.net>
 9. Re: realistic dock planking
    by "Michael Brubaker" <mbrubaker [at] acdtheatrical.com>
10. Re: new ideas for the stage tech olympics...
    by Stephen Litterst <litterst.stagecraft [at] gmail.com>
11. Re: realistic dock planking
    by "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>
12. Re: realistic dock planking
    by SS <cueonego [at] gmail.com>
13. Need Used lighting equip
    by Stefanie Christensen <spirch [at] charlestonstage.com>
14. Re: new ideas for the stage tech olympics...
    by Clive Mitchell <bigclive1 [at] ntlworld.com>
15. Re: Sound Specs
    by Clive Mitchell <bigclive1 [at] ntlworld.com>
16. Re: new ideas for the stage tech olympics...
    by Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
17. Re: Need Used lighting equip
    by "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>
18. World's slowest tech support
    by Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
19. Re: new ideas for the stage tech olympics...
    by "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>
20. Re: OT: First-aid & liability
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
21. Re: OT: First-aid & liability
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
22. Re: Sound Specs
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
23. Re: new ideas for the stage tech olympics...
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
24. Re: OT: First-aid & liability
    by "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>
25. Re: Sound Specs
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
26. Herrick's pledge
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
27. Re: OT: More stuff for sale
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
28. Re: OT: More stuff for sale
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
29. Re: Herrick's pledge
    by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
30. Re: Sound Specs
    by Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
31. Re: OT: First-aid & liability
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
32. Re: Jeff Salzberg
    by MartySrq [at] aol.com
33. Re: Jeff Salzberg
    by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
34. Re: OT: First-aid & liability
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
35. Re: OT: First-aid & liability
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
36. Stage Directions Magazine
    by "Terry Lowe" <tlowe [at] plsn.com>
37. Re: Stage Directions Magazine
    by "Storms, Randy" <rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu>
38. Re: Sound Specs
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
39. Re: Semi OT: New first aid stuff
    by "Jason Salvatori" <theatretd [at] gmail.com>
40. Re: Sound Specs
    by "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>
41. Re: Stage Directions Magazine
    by "Steven Haworth" <sjh [at] idm.com>
42. Re: Stage Directions Magazine
    by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
43. Re: Semi OT: New first aid stuff
    by "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>
44. Re: Herrick's pledge
    by "Ken Romaine" <ken.stagecraft [at] gmail.com>
45. Production Crew contracts...
    by "Jason Cowperthwaite" <jasonclights [at] gmail.com>
46. Re: Semi OT: New first aid stuff
    by "Michael Brubaker" <mbrubaker [at] acdtheatrical.com>
47. Re: Herrick's pledge
    by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
48. Re: Herrick's pledge
    by "Susan Nicholson" <theatretrainer [at] hotmail.com>
49. Re: OT: First-aid & liability
    by "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>
50. Re: Sound Specs
    by "Occy" <OneOccy [at] hotmail.com>
51. Re: Jeff Salzberg
    by "Occy" <OneOccy [at] hotmail.com>
52. Re: new ideas for the stage tech olympics...
    by Clive Mitchell <bigclive1 [at] ntlworld.com>
53. Re: OT: First-aid & liability
    by Clive Mitchell <bigclive1 [at] ntlworld.com>
54. Re: new ideas for the stage tech olympics...
    by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
55. Re: Production Crew contracts...
    by "Occy" <OneOccy [at] hotmail.com>
56. Re: OT: First-aid & liability
    by Chip Wood <chip.a.wood [at] gmail.com>
57. Re: Semi OT: New first aid stuff
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
58. Re: OT: First-aid & liability
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
59. Re: OT: First-aid & liability
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
60. Re: Herrick's pledge
    by Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
61. Bat Boy props?
    by Greg Williams <gwilliams [at] appstate.edu>
62. Re: Herrick's pledge
    by Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
63. Re: realistic dock planking
    by "David Stock" <Dave [at] davidpauldesigns.com>
64. Re: Another job
    by Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
65. Any Undergraduate Theater Information Appreciated!
    by "Jenny Yi" <jenny.yi08 [at] gmail.com>
66. Re: Herrick's pledge
    by Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
67. Re: Herrick's pledge
    by "Kurt Cypher" <kurt.stagecraftlist [at] gmail.com>
68. Re: Herrick's pledge
    by Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
69. Re: Herrick's pledge
    by Rigger <rigger [at] tds.net>
70. Re: Herrick's pledge
    by "Kurt Cypher" <kurt.stagecraftlist [at] gmail.com>
71. Re: Herrick's pledge
    by Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
72. Re: Herrick's pledge
    by Charlie Richmond <charlier [at] RichmondSoundDesign.com>
73. Re: OT: First-aid & liability
    by "RD" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
74. Re: OT: First-aid & liability
    by "RD" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
75. Re: Semi OT: New first aid stuff
    by "RD" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
76. Re: Stage Directions Magazine
    by "RD" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>

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Message-ID: <BAY110-DAV1717428ABBACE082A4ECCEBDBF0 [at] phx.gbl>
From: "Occy" <OneOccy [at] hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Sound Specs
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 00:40:24 -0800

So true, and I am not so sure they are big enough sometimes.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rigger" <rigger [at] tds.net>
To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: Sound Specs


> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> At 10:34 AM -0500 1/4/07, CB wrote:
> 
> >Think about dragging a
> >sixteen channel snake-head (or a 52 channel connector, same size-ish)
> >through it.
> 
> 
> That's not conduit, that's a tunnel.
> 
> -- 
> Dave Vick
> rigger [at] tds.net
> 
>      Discipline is never an end in itself, only a means to an end.
> 
>                                 -- Robert Fripp
> 

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Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 00:50:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: new ideas for the stage tech olympics...
From: "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>

> I actually just grabbed the handle and pulled the trigger without
> realising you need to exert a decent amount of two handle control on the
> things.  It just skewed sideways followed by a shower of dessimated
> candy.

Actually, they run fine with one handed control, but it takes a bit of
practice.

Bill


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Message-ID: <459E52AC.4030309 [at] gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 08:29:16 -0500
From: Stephen Litterst <litterst.stagecraft [at] gmail.com>
Organization: University of Delaware
Subject: Re: Sound Specs
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Clive Mitchell wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> In message <list-40826917 [at] prxy.net>, "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 
> <ladesigners [at] juno.com> writes

> Can I just mention that this is where the UK wiring containment and 
> American equivalent clash.  You ask for an 8" conduit in the UK and 
> you'll be met with surprise.  Typically steel conduit in the UK only 
> goes up to about 25mm (1") diameter as standard, and we move onto steel 
> trunking (raceway?) above that.  The trunking is a three sided metal 
> trough in 3m lengths with a latching lid.  It usually comes in 
> 2,3,4,6,8,10'12" sizes in various square or rectangular sections.  It's 
> made by several manufacturers who deliberately make their joining and 
> lid systems as different as possible.


Clive,

What do you do when the wires need to be encased in a wall? I have 8" 
conduit running from my sound booth through the concrete floor to the 
orchestra pit.  How would that be done on your side of the pond?

Steve L.

-- 
Stephen Litterst			Technical Operations Supervisor
litterst [at] udel.edu			Center for the Arts
302/831-0601				University of Delaware

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Subject: realistic dock planking
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 08:16:32 -0800
Message-ID: <555928311F8B2943B65FC7197942C3B70B49AF30 [at] es1.bsdnet.wednet.edu>
From: "Storms, Randy" <rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu>

For our upcoming production of Scapino, which is set on the waterfront =
of Naples, Italy; the director has asked for a system of docks extending =
from the stage into the house. =20

These docks will be used for the many "chase" scenes in the show, and so =
must support two or more actors running, jumping, etc.

I'd like to create the illusion that the docks are constructed of heavy =
old weathered planking (~3"x12")and I need to find a =
cheap/easy/lightweight way to accomplish this.  The only idea I haven't =
rejected so far is to build the docks with plywood, then "plank" 'em =
with scene paint.  The trouble is that the docks will be seen by the =
audience from a distance of only about five feet, and in some cases the =
audience will be able to see the top, side, end, and bottom of the  =
"planks".

Does anyone have a suggestion for how to accomplish this realistically?

Many thanks in advance,

Randy Storms
rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu

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Message-ID: <459E7C97.8040209 [at] gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 11:28:07 -0500
From: Stephen Litterst <litterst.stagecraft [at] gmail.com>
Organization: University of Delaware
Subject: Re: realistic dock planking
References: <list-40856201 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-40856201 [at] prxy.net>

Storms, Randy wrote:
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> For our upcoming production of Scapino, which is set on the
> waterfront of Naples, Italy; the director has asked for a system of
> docks extending from the stage into the house.
> 
> These docks will be used for the many "chase" scenes in the show, and
> so must support two or more actors running, jumping, etc.

> Does anyone have a suggestion for how to accomplish this
> realistically?

I worked on a production of MacBeth that used a similar design concept. 
  The TD and Production Manager worked with local decking contractors 
and scavenged weathered boards from deck renovations/replacements.

Then they had the lighting department get all the screws and nails out 
of them.

Steve L.
-- 
Stephen Litterst			Technical Operations Supervisor
litterst [at] udel.edu			Center for the Arts
302/831-0601				University of Delaware

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Subject: RE: realistic dock planking
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 11:30:12 -0500
Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0706551B [at] exchange.rmwc.edu>
In-Reply-To: <list-40856201 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>

> Does anyone have a suggestion for how to accomplish this=20
> realistically?

Depends on your time frame and resources.

Many eons ago I built a pretty substantial dock for "Catfish Moon" out
of a combination of plywood and a large quantity of weathered 2x6
barn-type lumber we had lying around.  Used double-thick plywood sweeps
laminated for curving sweeps (where the dock "sagged") about 16' long,
topped with the 2x6.  Looked great, worked great, and when finished the
main 6'x16' section could be moved by about six guys--not "lightweight",
but not unreasonable, either.  I'd suggest this sort of approach, but
finding pre-weathered structural lumber that isn't all buggy and
worm-eaten is a hit-or-miss proposition at best, so it depends on
whether you've got the time to search around.

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Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 11:33:26 -0500
From: Rigger <rigger [at] tds.net>
Subject: Re: Sound Specs

At 12:40 AM -0800 1/5/07, Occy wrote:

>>>  Think about dragging a sixteen channel snake-head (or a
>>>  52 channel connector, same size-ish) through it.
>>
>>  That's not conduit, that's a tunnel.
>
>  So true, and I am not so sure they are big enough sometimes.


Grouchy Dave's Rule of Lighting Snake Conduit Access:

       If my second-highest seniority electrician (5'-9")
       could walk upright through the conduit while dragging
       the lighting snake without banging her head on
       anything, it was big enough.

I'm sure this would be acceptable for PA snakes, too.


-- 
Dave Vick
IATSE #274
Reformed Electrician
(hey, it was only a temporary illness)

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Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 11:35:37 -0500
From: Rigger <rigger [at] tds.net>
Subject: Re: new ideas for the stage tech olympics...

At 12:50 AM -0800 1/5/07, Bill Nelson wrote:

>>  I actually just grabbed the handle and pulled the trigger without
>>  realising you need to exert a decent amount of two handle control on the
>>  things.  It just skewed sideways followed by a shower of dessimated
>>  candy.
>
>  Actually, they run fine with one handed control, but it takes a bit of
>  practice.


Ayup; Bill gets it.

The control isn't in your hands, Clivey, it's in your butt-cheeks. 
You were just leaning in the wrong direction, is why it skipped 
sideways on you.

-- 
-Dave Vick
rigger [at] tds.net

  "They say travel broadens the mind...
   So I went over the falls in a barrel."
             --Thos. Dolby, "I Live In A Suitcase"

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From: "Michael Brubaker" <mbrubaker [at] acdtheatrical.com>
Subject: RE: realistic dock planking
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 11:38:24 -0500
Message-ID: <JCEGLMFBOOMOFFJALNFFGENHCCAA.mbrubaker [at] acdtheatrical.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-40856564 [at] prxy.net>

And the shop grumbles about using chisels as screwdrivers?  Ellipsoidals
CAN'T make very good prybars.  Or did they burn them out?

Mike Brubaker
Head of Design
Associated Controls + Design
6850 N Guion Rd
Indianapolis, IN 46268

T: 800.382.3961 x117
T: 317.298.3961 x117
F: 317-293-0281

-----Original Message-----
Stephen Litterst wrote:

Then they had the lighting department get all the screws and nails out
of them.



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Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 11:45:25 -0500
From: Stephen Litterst <litterst.stagecraft [at] gmail.com>
Organization: University of Delaware
Subject: Re: new ideas for the stage tech olympics...
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Rigger wrote:

> ---------------------------------------------------
> The control isn't in your hands, Clivey, it's in your butt-cheeks. 


God help us all.

Steve L.



-- 
Stephen Litterst			Technical Operations Supervisor
litterst [at] udel.edu			Center for the Arts
302/831-0601				University of Delaware

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Subject: RE: realistic dock planking
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 11:45:28 -0500
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In-Reply-To: <list-40856891 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>

> And the shop grumbles about using chisels as screwdrivers? =20
> Ellipsoidals CAN'T make very good prybars.  Or did they burn them out?

Gel and gobo frames can be used to pry, and C-wrenches tightened down
really really good for pulling.

Or maybe they were getting screws out of the contractors, instead...?

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Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 11:54:17 -0500
From: SS <cueonego [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: realistic dock planking
In-Reply-To: <list-40856650 [at] prxy.net>
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> Many eons ago I built a pretty substantial dock for "Catfish Moon" out
> of a combination of plywood and a large quantity of weathered 2x6
> barn-type lumber we had lying around.  Used double-thick plywood sweeps
> laminated for curving sweeps (where the dock "sagged") about 16' long,
> topped with the 2x6.  Looked great, worked great, and when finished the
> main 6'x16' section could be moved by about six guys--not "lightweight",
> but not unreasonable, either.  I'd suggest this sort of approach, but
> finding pre-weathered structural lumber that isn't all buggy and
> worm-eaten is a hit-or-miss proposition at best, so it depends on
> whether you've got the time to search around.


What Paul said. That would've been my suggestion to. Trying to
locate/obtain/steal some old "barn board", or pillaging some actual
docking from a contractor, or a marina. Sure it's easier said than
done, especially depending on where you live. But if you can find the
stuff, it'll work great, and look great too!!  (At least in my
experiences it does.)

Otherwise, plywood planking shouldn't be too difficult. We've created
planked platforming using plywood on several occasions. Making it look
weathered just takes some creativity/time with tools and paint.

Good luck.

-SS
TTS-EKU

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References: <B3F94D56-F0FD-495D-B6A2-764BF85086F6 [at] charlestonstage.com>
Message-Id: <4EDE7E92-14BA-4534-8789-2295F6DEBA5F [at] charlestonstage.com>
From: Stefanie Christensen <spirch [at] charlestonstage.com>
Subject: Need Used lighting equip
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 12:00:15 -0500

>
> Thanks for the advice on the Jrs,  I have been looking for product  
> reviews of these to see if they are want we want to use and it  
> sounds like the answer is no.
> I don't use Frens for front washes, I use them for top lights,  
> backlights and side light washes that get buried in the opposite  
> wings.
> The stage end up being about 20'x20', so I have to have alot of  
> control over the front lights inorder to maintain any separation of  
> areas or specials.  All the fronts will be elips or S4s.  I will  
> look at the pars for use onstage too, but one other limitation in  
> the onstage lights is size.  The instruments have to be within a  
> certain size to fit the space avaliable.  From the ground, (I  
> haven't climbed up to the ceiling yet) it looks like I only have  
> about 12 inches clearance for anything overhead onstage.
>
> Thanks for the help
>
> Stefanie Christensen
> Technical Director/Production Manager
> Charleston Stage Company
> spirch [at] charlestonstage.com
> (843)577-0868
>
>
> On Jan 5, 2007, at 6:00 AM, Stagecraft wrote:
>
>> Don't economize and get the S4 Juniors. They do not have a  
>> rotating lens
>> shroud or ability to interchange lens barrels. The lamp housing  
>> end also
>> tends to overheat.
>>
>> I don't like fresnels for front washes, not enough beam control  
>> when the
>> instruments are mounted on the house side of the proscenium.
>>
>> Also consider getting a bunch of S4 PARs, they have  
>> interchangeable lenses
>> to get different beam angles. They also have a nice rotating  
>> collar that
>> allows you to rotate the lens, and thus the oval shaped beam, without
>> having to reach into the back of the instrument. I have used them  
>> for cyc
>> top washes, ground rows, side washes and anywhere else where you  
>> might use
>> a PAR instrument. They are quite versatile when you can do without  
>> precise
>> light control.
>>
>> Bill
>


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Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 17:12:57 +0000
From: Clive Mitchell <bigclive1 [at] ntlworld.com>
Subject: Re: new ideas for the stage tech olympics...
References: <list-40819393 [at] prxy.net> <list-40820437 [at] prxy.net>
 <list-40821195 [at] prxy.net> <list-40831758 [at] prxy.net> <list-40843104 [at] prxy.net>
 <list-40856840 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-40856840 [at] prxy.net>

In message <list-40856840 [at] prxy.net>, Rigger <rigger [at] tds.net> writes
>Ayup; Bill gets it.
>
>The control isn't in your hands, Clivey, it's in your butt-cheeks. You 
>were just leaning in the wrong direction, is why it skipped sideways on 
>you.

Actually I wasn't even standing on it at the time.  I just thought that 
it would be interesting to pull the trigger and see what they were like 
to steer.  Then after causing candy mayhem I simply disappeared.

It would have been an ideal youtube video.

-- 
Clive Mitchell
http://www.bigclive.com

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Message-ID: <teLy78DcdonFFwyy [at] ntlworld.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 17:14:04 +0000
From: Clive Mitchell <bigclive1 [at] ntlworld.com>
Subject: Re: Sound Specs
References: <list-40826917 [at] prxy.net> <list-40831756 [at] prxy.net>
 <list-40851053 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-40851053 [at] prxy.net>

In message <list-40851053 [at] prxy.net>, Stephen Litterst 
<litterst.stagecraft [at] gmail.com> writes
>What do you do when the wires need to be encased in a wall? I have 8" 
>conduit running from my sound booth through the concrete floor to the 
>orchestra pit.  How would that be done on your side of the pond?

Box trunking through the wall and fire protection installed inside the 
trunking.

-- 
Clive Mitchell
http://www.bigclive.com

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Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 09:21:46 -0800
From: Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
Subject: Re: new ideas for the stage tech olympics...
In-reply-to: <list-40858122 [at] prxy.net>
Message-id: <7.0.1.0.0.20070105091913.01fd2f88 [at] interstellar.com>
References: <list-40819393 [at] prxy.net> <list-40820437 [at] prxy.net>
 <list-40821195 [at] prxy.net> <list-40831758 [at] prxy.net> <list-40843104 [at] prxy.net>
 <list-40856840 [at] prxy.net> <list-40858122 [at] prxy.net>

At 09:12 AM 1/5/2007, Clive Mitchell wrote:
>Actually I wasn't even standing on it at the time.  I just thought 
>that it would be interesting to pull the trigger and see what they 
>were like to steer.  Then after causing candy mayhem I simply disappeared.

I almost ran over my supervisor the first time I tried one.  After 
that it was what I did every day between my classes.  To "save 
energy", we were required to do all janitorial chores DURING the 
school day.  This neglected the fact the building was open and lit 
the same 24/7.


-- 
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.  www.interstellar.com
tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886
Skype:  jerrydurand


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Message-ID: <2101.205.215.253.35.1168017885.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org>
In-Reply-To: <list-40857622 [at] prxy.net>
References: <B3F94D56-F0FD-495D-B6A2-764BF85086F6 [at] charlestonstage.com>
    <list-40857622 [at] prxy.net>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 09:24:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Need Used lighting equip
From: "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>

>> The stage end up being about 20'x20', so I have to have alot of
>> control over the front lights inorder to maintain any separation of
>> areas or specials.  All the fronts will be elips or S4s.  I will
>> look at the pars for use onstage too, but one other limitation in
>> the onstage lights is size.  The instruments have to be within a
>> certain size to fit the space avaliable.

The S4 PAR is only slightly larger than a 6" Fresnel. Using a 575 watt
lamp, the rival a PAR64 with a 1K lamp for intensity.

>>  From the ground, (I
>> haven't climbed up to the ceiling yet) it looks like I only have
>> about 12 inches clearance for anything overhead onstage.

If there is room, hang some black borders. That will give you a bit more
room to hide instruments.

One reason to go with the S4 ellipsoidal and S4 PAR is that they are
versatile. Being able to change lenses cuts down on the necessary
instrument inventory. I even have a 10 degree lens barrel for use in my S4
ellipsoidals. It has been useful a number of times, even in theatres with
only a 50-60 foot throw. One of these days, when I can afford it, I am
going to get one of their new 90 degree barrels. Now THAT would come in
real handy.

Bill


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Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 10:10:00 -0800
From: Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
Subject: World's slowest tech support
Message-id: <7.0.1.0.0.20070105100937.01fdb2a0 [at] interstellar.com>
Message-id: <7.0.1.0.0.20070105094423.01f70740 [at] interstellar.com>

Let's see who can beat this:

I just received two e-mails from Texas Instruments informing me case 
numbers that have just been assigned to questions I sent them...in 
April & May 2001!

I called and the guy there said he's never seen anything like this, 
5+ years just to assign a case number.  And they did it twice!

Original message headers:
Date: 4/11/2001 7:15:28 PM
Alternate e-mail: jdurand [at] webrise.net
Carbon copy e-mail:
Product: Code Composer Studio    Version: C5000-1.90-FULL

Date: 5/3/2001 9:38:54 AM
Alternate e-mail: jdurand [at] webrise.net
Carbon copy e-mail:
Product: Code Composer Studio    Version:
C5000-1.90-FULL,C5000-1.91.2-FULL


-- 
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.  www.interstellar.com
tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886
Skype:  jerrydurand


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Subject: RE: new ideas for the stage tech olympics...
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 13:14:32 -0500
Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0706557B [at] exchange.rmwc.edu>
In-Reply-To: <list-40857127 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>

> > The control isn't in your hands, Clivey, it's in your butt-cheeks.=20
>=20
> God help us all.

So *that's* what I've been doing wrong all this time!  Thanks for the
heads-up there...so to speak. :)

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070105105104.00c819a0 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 10:51:04
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: OT: First-aid & liability

>Right, where's the youtube video showing how to do an emergency trach?

Well, if I ever *have* to do one, I hope some idiot is there with his cell
phone videoing it.  It'll either be an instructive video of how to do an
emergency trach or a video showing how *not* to do one...
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012

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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <46e.dd7b32a.32cff07d [at] aol.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 13:18:37 EST
Subject: Re: OT: First-aid & liability

In a message dated 05/01/07 01:48:56 GMT Standard Time, billn [at] peak.org writes:

> It is very relevant. If you make things worse, then you are reducing
>  whatever chances the person might have to survive until the ambulance
>  arrived.

It is indeed. Moving someone you suspect of having a spinal injury, for 
instance, is definitely not a good idea. Doing this wrong, while not necessarily 
fatal, may move them from a recoverable situation into being a quadriplegic or 
paraplegic. Just what to do if such a case, as a consequence of other injuries, 
needs external closed-heart massage I do not know, but it could happen. A 
powerful electric shock followed by a fall from a height could have this result. 
We all work in places where this is a possible scenario.

One has to prioritise, and to do it all fast. That is where the training 
comes in. I was taught that saving life comes first, so I guess I should take the 
chance of paralysis. But it is a frightning thought that such a decision may 
come your way.

Frank Wood

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070105105400.00c819a0 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 10:54:00
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: Sound Specs

>>Think about dragging a sixteen channel snake-head (or a 52 channel 
>>connector, same size-ish) through it.
>That's not conduit, that's a tunnel.

Tunnels aren't grounded, but yeah, you're getting it.
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070105105640.00c819a0 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 10:56:40
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: new ideas for the stage tech olympics...

>No, you sit on top of the motor, hang onto the handles like they were 
>chopper handlebars, and lean slightly to one side, which lifts the 
>opposite edge of the buffer wheel off the ground and lets you scoot 
>across the floor until you run out of A.) room, B. power cord, or C.) 
>nerve.

OK, I'm off to find a place to practice.  I wonder if I can rent one of
those close by?  Next time you're here, we'll drag.
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012

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Subject: RE: OT: First-aid & liability
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 13:24:59 -0500
Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0706558B [at] exchange.rmwc.edu>
In-Reply-To: <list-40860272 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>

> One has to prioritise, and to do it all fast. That is where=20
> the training comes in. I was taught that saving life comes=20
> first, so I guess I should take the chance of paralysis. But=20
> it is a frightning thought that such a decision may come your way.

Yeah.  I can say that from experience.  The fear/realization really
didn't hit til later though...and that's part of the training, to be
able to react rationally first, and do so quickly.

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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <bc1.9691d9c.32cff2aa [at] aol.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 13:27:54 EST
Subject: Re: Sound Specs

In a message dated 05/01/07 02:02:46 GMT Standard Time, ladesigners [at] juno.com 
writes:

> We use plenty of gutter, which is probably similar to what you refer 
>  to as trough, and probably most of the circuits initially travel that 
>  way immediately after leaving the dimmers in permanent installations.

I think we refer to it as "cable tray". It's a perforated steel sheet, with 
the edges folded up. The idea id that the cables are neatly laid out, and tied 
to it at suitable intervals. If properly done, this avoids stressing the 
cables.

It is only used for cables. Single wires are either in conduit or in trunking 
(raceway). 

Frank Wood

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070105110227.00c819a0 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 11:02:27
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Herrick's pledge

><P>Susan Nicholson<BR><BR></P></DIV>
><DIV></DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT:
#a0c6e5 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 11px;
FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif">
><HR color=#a0c6e5 SIZE=1>

Herrick, dincha tell her that she has to post in plain text when you told
her about this crew?  If you're gonna jump someone into the gang, you have
to vouch for them, and show them the ropes, brudda.  Or at least show them
the do's & don'ts and 'How To Use the List' pages.
(Susan, kick Herrick in the jimmy for not telling you, and switch to plain
text...)
			Chris Babbie
			Location Sound
			Tucson, AZ
			Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur

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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <ced.66d72d6.32cff35c [at] aol.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 13:30:52 EST
Subject: Re: OT: More stuff for sale

In a message dated 05/01/07 03:14:31 GMT Standard Time, 
mrtemplate [at] earthlink.net writes:

> In lieu of trash, you might take a look here. I don't know how worldwide
>  they really are but they claim to be involved in over 102 countries.
>  
>  http://www.cristina.org/
>  
>  Hth,
>  
>  shelley

Thanks. When I get my new machine, I will check this out. Just at the moment, 
my web access varies between intermittent and non-extistant.

Frank Wood

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070105110913.00c819a0 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 11:09:13
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: OT: More stuff for sale

>The last time I played The 5th Avenue in Seattle...
>The house sound crew gave me vodka-and-slurpee going away present.

Ah, Jim's 'splash and dash'.  I had the Rum and the Scotch in my kit, he
had the Tequila and chocolate in his lil off-left hidey-hole.  Made my
three week sit-down at the 5th very pleasant.  Karen was really nice, but
Jim gave me booze, what can I say.
Anyone at or near the 5th tell them both that I miss them, and look forward
to the next time I'm in Seattle.
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012

------------------------------

Reply-To: <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
Subject: RE: Herrick's pledge
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 13:35:34 -0500
Message-ID: <018b01c730f8$49bbde20$6501a8c0 [at] Dell>
In-Reply-To: <list-40860598 [at] prxy.net>


> If you're gonna jump 
> someone into the gang, you have to vouch for them

I've met Susan.  She's a very nice person and should not be judged by the
company she keeps.


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Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 10:36:28 -0800
From: Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
Subject: Re: Sound Specs
In-reply-to: <list-40860570 [at] prxy.net>
Message-id: <7.0.1.0.0.20070105102934.01ff7df0 [at] interstellar.com>
References: <list-40860570 [at] prxy.net>

At 10:27 AM 1/5/2007, FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote:
>I think we refer to it as "cable tray". It's a perforated steel sheet, with
>the edges folded up. The idea id that the cables are neatly laid 
>out, and tied
>to it at suitable intervals. If properly done, this avoids stressing the
>cables.

One problem I can see with cable trays is cases of constant 
adding/removing cables.  The quickest way to get cables in is to pull 
them off a spool through the tunnel (conduit, pipe, tray, old sewer 
main, methane pipe, what-have-you).  Pulling cable through a tray 
will have it rubbing on all the seams/cutouts.  For a one-time 
installation, this may be ok, but not for multiple uses.

I know a tray is designed for you to LAY the cable into, but are you 
going to hump that big spool/coil from one end of the building to the 
other in order to do this?  I don't think so, especially if you have 
to change floors/go through walls.

Trays also often have sharp turns.  Not a problem when laying a cable 
in, not so good for pulling.

When using pipe/conduit always make it much bigger than you think you 
need.  Aside from eventually needing "one more" cable in there, I've 
seen cables jam in an old conduit under a floor.  Concrete-breaking time.


-- 
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.  www.interstellar.com
tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886
Skype:  jerrydurand


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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070105111524.00c819a0 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 11:15:24
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: OT: First-aid & liability

>I've always wondered whether a blow to the chest could compress the 
>heart enough into a state where it might stand a chance of 
>resynchronisation. 

It used to be taught as part of CPR, and was still being taught at the
college I was at in the early eighties.  Correcting that class and some of
the 'theory' being taught in the electronics course were the main reasons I
moved on.  Figured that I should't be paying them if I was teaching their
instructors...
The 'Primordial thump' method can be effective, it's just that it is only
effective in a small portion of a percentage of cases where a pulse cannot
be detected, or fibrulation is detected.  In a large percentage of the
cases where it won't be effective, it tends to cause injury, from minor
insult to death.

				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012

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From: MartySrq [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <c1b.bfc78bd.32cff675 [at] aol.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 13:44:05 EST
Subject: Re: Jeff Salzberg

Jeff,
 
For my sins I'm lighting a show at the Florida Tiny Theater Cabaret.
 
Yikes,
 
 
Marty

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Reply-To: <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
Subject: RE: Jeff Salzberg
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 13:46:20 -0500
Message-ID: <018c01c730f9$ca8e6cb0$6501a8c0 [at] Dell>
In-Reply-To: <list-40861065 [at] prxy.net>

It's better than lighting a show on the main stage.  At least the grid has
some height and is all at the same level.

Who's directing?

=================================
Jeffrey E. Salzberg,
Lighting Designer
http://www.jeffsalzberg.com

201/379-3138 (Home)
917/238-7430 (Cell)
jeffsalzberg (Skype)
weblog: http://www.jeffsalzberg.com/blog.htm


> -----Original Message-----
> From: MartySrq [at] aol.com [mailto:MartySrq [at] aol.com] 
> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 1:44 PM
> To: Stagecraft
> Subject: Re: Jeff Salzberg
> 
> 
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see 
> <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Jeff,
>  
> For my sins I'm lighting a show at the Florida Tiny Theater Cabaret.
>  
> Yikes,
>  
>  
> Marty
> 
> -- 
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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070105112102.00c819a0 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 11:21:02
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: RE: OT: First-aid & liability

>Without the training, you just cutting a hole and praying.

This is being my point.  If you are a trained surgeon, or an EMT, or an RN,
it really isn't good sam first-aid, it's wualified medical assistance.  If
you're just a goof with a carpet knife, a steady hand, and a strong
stomach, you cut a hole and pray.  Betas the heck out of just praying.
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070105112508.00c819a0 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 11:25:08
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: OT: First-aid & liability

>It is very relevant. If you make things worse, 

*Sigh*... Try to keep up.  We were discussing someone that is in *imminent*
danger of death.  Someone who will absolutely die if nothing is done.  If
you attempt a trench trach and sever both carotids and a jugular in the
attempt, you have committed a mercy, as just watching the guy asphyxiate is
kinda cruel.
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012

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Subject: Stage Directions Magazine
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 10:56:23 -0800
Message-ID: <793BE9C001D3D545A5CEE4B50BE02FBB99DA90 [at] webserver1.timelesspub.local>
From: "Terry Lowe" <tlowe [at] plsn.com>

I wanted the list to know that from this point on there is no charge to =
receive Stage Directions magazine. In the past SD had always been a paid =
subscription publication. If the cost of the magazine held you back from =
receiving Stage Directions, we invite you to start your free =
subscription by simply going to:
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=A0
If you start your free subscription before Monday you will receive the =
February issue. If you wait till after Monday it will be the March issue =
you will first receive. We believe we are making Stage Directions a more =
relevant and interesting editorial product for you. We hope you take the =
time to subscribe.
=A0
Thank you.


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Subject: RE: Stage Directions Magazine
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 10:59:23 -0800
Message-ID: <555928311F8B2943B65FC7197942C3B70B49AF31 [at] es1.bsdnet.wednet.edu>
From: "Storms, Randy" <rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu>

I just today received my January issue - a well balanced publication, =
reminiscent of the old "Theatre Crafts" magazine I loved so much before =
they changed the format and ruined it!

Randy Storms
rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu

-----Original Message-----


I wanted the list to know that from this point on there is no charge to =
receive Stage Directions magazine. In the past SD had always been a paid =
subscription publication. If the cost of the magazine held you back from =
receiving Stage Directions, we invite you to start your free =
subscription by simply going to:
=A0
www.stage-directions.com/subscribe
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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <bdd.9c3109d.32cffac5 [at] aol.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 14:02:29 EST
Subject: Re: Sound Specs

In a message dated 05/01/07 18:37:57 GMT Standard Time, 
jdurand [at] interstellar.com writes:

> >I think we refer to it as "cable tray". It's a perforated steel sheet, with
>  >the edges folded up. The idea id that the cables are neatly laid 
>  >out, and tied
>  >to it at suitable intervals. If properly done, this avoids stressing the
>  >cables.
>  
>  One problem I can see with cable trays is cases of constant 
>  adding/removing cables.  The quickest way to get cables in is to pull 
>  them off a spool through the tunnel (conduit, pipe, tray, old sewer 
>  main, methane pipe, what-have-you).  Pulling cable through a tray 
>  will have it rubbing on all the seams/cutouts.  For a one-time 
>  installation, this may be ok, but not for multiple uses

I suppose that I should have said that this is for permanent installations. 
For temporary ones, a suitable cable path must be made. With us, in the UK, 4" 
sewer pipe is often used, just to provide a path..

Frank Wood

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Message-ID: <1caebf780701051106ic597f64m8eb9adb028028a76 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 14:06:49 -0500
From: "Jason Salvatori" <theatretd [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Semi OT: New first aid stuff
In-Reply-To: <list-40584966 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-40584966 [at] prxy.net>

Wow, this first aid topic exploded!  Just to get back to the original
post (clot strips, not field surgery), all I was recommending is to
not hand out anything that is a medication.  Band-aids are fine, all
they are is sterile cloth with adhesive.  But Tylenol or anything
similar is a no-no.  I just renewed my first aid/CPR and AED training,
and was told specifically that good Samaritan laws only cover you if
you do what you were trained to do.  I was trained to bandage, trained
to do CPR, artificial resp., use an AED, trained to immobilize spinal
injuries, trained in fall recovery and rescue.  I was NOT trained to
give medications, or to cut holes in people.  I hate to be afraid of
liability laws, but I am.  I can't afford a multi-million $$ lawsuit.
This doesn't even factor in the situations where you're dealing with
children and chances of allergies to what you're giving them.
And to all the people who said they'd rather have someone try DIY
surgery it on them than be dead, well that makes sense, but do your
loved ones see it the same way?  If your significant other was choking
and someone cuts a hole in their neck that kills them 20 seconds
before the professionals arrive.... aren't you going to be out for
blood (or $$)?

There's my rant on the subject.

Jason Salvatori
Technical Director
Vaughan City Playhouse

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Message-ID: <2215.205.215.253.35.1168024645.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org>
In-Reply-To: <list-40860570 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-40860570 [at] prxy.net>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 11:17:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Sound Specs
From: "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>

> I think we refer to it as "cable tray". It's a perforated steel sheet, with
> the edges folded up. The idea id that the cables are neatly laid out, and
> tied
> to it at suitable intervals. If properly done, this avoids stressing the
> cables.

That is one of half a dozen types of cable tray that I have used.

Bill


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Subject: RE: Stage Directions Magazine
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 13:20:32 -0600
Message-ID: <5D5187063B6B8B46A99E8C0D36E0EB0901AAABFA [at] danube.river.idm.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-40861636 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Steven Haworth" <sjh [at] idm.com>

Yes - it reminded me of that as well - it's really great to see
something like again.  Nice job!
=20
- Steven      (sjh [at] idm.com)
---------------------------
http://www.stagelights.info


>I just today received my January issue - a well balanced=20
>publication, reminiscent of the old "Theatre Crafts" magazine=20
>I loved so much before they changed the format and ruined it!
>
>Randy Storms
>rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu


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From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 19:18:50 GMT
Subject: Re: Stage Directions Magazine
Message-Id: <20070105.111931.18186.1046165 [at] webmail36.lax.untd.com>

I feel that Patrica did a good job with what she got from Rodale Press
/s/Richard
___________________________________


I just today received my January issue - a well balanced publication, =

reminiscent of the old "Theatre Crafts" magazine I loved so much =

before they changed the format and ruined it!

Randy Storms



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Subject: RE: Semi OT: New first aid stuff
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 14:23:24 -0500
Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A070655C9 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu>
In-Reply-To: <list-40861859 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>

> And to all the people who said they'd rather have someone try=20
> DIY surgery it on them than be dead, well that makes sense,=20
> but do your loved ones see it the same way?  If your=20
> significant other was choking and someone cuts a hole in=20
> their neck that kills them 20 seconds before the=20
> professionals arrive.... aren't you going to be out for blood (or $$)?

You're right, this has kinda exploded...but at the same time, part of it
is that things have either been read into what's been written that
weren't there, or things have been missed that were.

I don't recall anyone saying anything about trying DIY surgery *when
professional help is on its way*.

Everything I've seen has had that choice couched in "absolute last
resort" language, including my response.

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Message-ID: <ce2084ad0701051310n30af1c71h67a9d17901bac95f [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 16:10:24 -0500
From: "Ken Romaine" <ken.stagecraft [at] gmail.com>
Cc: stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com
Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge
In-Reply-To: <list-40860806 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-40860598 [at] prxy.net> <list-40860806 [at] prxy.net>

On 1/5/07, Jeffrey E. Salzberg <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com> wrote:
>
> I've met Susan.  She's a very nice person and should not be judged by the
> company she keeps.
>
Jeff:

That "company" includes you & me.

-- 
Ken Romaine
Business Development Manager
Barco Media & Entertainment
The opinions expressed here are mine - all mine - no matter how
much I want to impose them on the rest of the world.

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Message-ID: <3eb8da960701051212t2b472b1awcb3b55b6219de471 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 15:12:03 -0500
From: "Jason Cowperthwaite" <jasonclights [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Production Crew contracts...

Hey folks,

I have been tasked with developing a crew contract for our students
here.  Do any of you have a contract that your drama dept. uses that
you would be willing to share as an example?  Please feel free to
email me off list if you prefer.

Thanks!

Jason Cowperthwaite
Asst. Technical Director/Production Manager
Catholic University of America

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From: "Michael Brubaker" <mbrubaker [at] acdtheatrical.com>
Subject: RE: Semi OT: New first aid stuff
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 15:44:47 -0500
Message-ID: <JCEGLMFBOOMOFFJALNFFKENNCCAA.mbrubaker [at] acdtheatrical.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-40861859 [at] prxy.net>

Given that many of us are in supervisory or otherwise responsible roles, and
even if you're not, most of us should have enough insurance, PERSONALLY, to
cover at least a $1.5 million lawsuit.  Personal umbrella liability
insurance is CHEAP.  I pay $200 a year (in Indiana).  There are probably
even less expensive policies out there.  That covers me for stupid kids
doing stupid things, dog bites, personal injury that exceeds my auto
policy's coverage, you get the picture.

Mike Brubaker
Head of Design
Associated Controls + Design
6850 N Guion Rd
Indianapolis, IN 46268

T: 800.382.3961 x117
T: 317.298.3961 x117
F: 317-293-0281

-----Original Message-----
Jason Salvatori wrote:

give medications, or to cut holes in people.  I hate to be afraid of
liability laws, but I am.  I can't afford a multi-million $$ lawsuit.
This doesn't even factor in the situations where you're dealing with



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Reply-To: <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
Subject: RE: Herrick's pledge
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 16:22:42 -0500
Message-ID: <01ca01c7310f$a2f871d0$6501a8c0 [at] Dell>
In-Reply-To: <list-40870499 [at] prxy.net>

> > I've met Susan.  She's a very nice person and should not be 
> judged by 
> > the company she keeps.
> >
> Jeff:
> 
> That "company" includes you & me.

Oh, yeah, I forgot....


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Message-ID: <BAY125-F21655E745F8626370E8A26C3BF0 [at] phx.gbl>
From: "Susan Nicholson" <theatretrainer [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 16:23:11 -0500

I think that I did it correctly this time!!  And thanks for gentlemen for 
being in my 'company'!! :-)
Susan Nicholson


From:  "Ken Romaine" <ken.stagecraft [at] gmail.com>
Reply-To:  "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
To:  "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
CC:  stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com
Subject:  Re: Herrick's pledge
Date:  Fri, 5 Jan 2007 16:10:24 -0500
For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

On 1/5/07, Jeffrey E. Salzberg <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com> wrote:
>
>I've met Susan.  She's a very nice person and should not be judged by the
>company she keeps.
>
Jeff:

That "company" includes you & me.

--
Ken Romaine
Business Development Manager
Barco Media & Entertainment
The opinions expressed here are mine - all mine - no matter how
much I want to impose them on the rest of the world.

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Message-ID: <2393.205.215.253.35.1168034065.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org>
In-Reply-To: <list-40861307 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-40861307 [at] prxy.net>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 13:54:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: OT: First-aid & liability
From: "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>

>>It is very relevant. If you make things worse,
>
> *Sigh*... Try to keep up. We were discussing someone that is in *imminent*
> danger of death.  Someone who will absolutely die if nothing is done.  If
> you attempt a trench trach and sever both carotids and a jugular in the
> attempt, you have committed a mercy, as just watching the guy asphyxiate
> is kinda cruel.

Oh, I am keeping up just fine, CB.

If you managed to sever a carotid, then you are making things worse - and
doing exactly what I said, removing any chance the person might survive
without your attempted help.

But that won't happen with some quick training. The proper place to make
the tracheotomy incision is easy to locate.

Bill


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Message-ID: <BAY110-DAV37AA867DB58D84B5A304DBDBF0 [at] phx.gbl>
From: "Occy" <OneOccy [at] hotmail.com>
References: <list-40860570 [at] prxy.net> <list-40860868 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Sound Specs
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 13:58:45 -0800

I had put up cable trays for the sound and electric's mains. I had a real 
problem with the sound cable tray as I found too many of the crew being both 
local and road, walking on while installing the mains installing the main 
for sound. As we all know that the mains for sound on a arena show is oooo, 
there was nothing to keep them from falling the 8 feet to the concrete 
during their install. So I finally put house feeder in the sound location so 
I lost the walking on the cable trays.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Durand" <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
 ---------------------------------------------------
>
> One problem I can see with cable trays is cases of constant
> adding/removing cables.  The quickest way to get cables in is to pull
> them off a spool through the tunnel (conduit, pipe, tray, old sewer
> main, methane pipe, what-have-you).  Pulling cable through a tray
> will have it rubbing on all the seams/cutouts.  For a one-time
> installation, this may be ok, but not for multiple uses.
>
> I know a tray is designed for you to LAY the cable into, but are you
> going to hump that big spool/coil from one end of the building to the
> other in order to do this?  I don't think so, especially if you have
> to change floors/go through walls.
>
> Trays also often have sharp turns.  Not a problem when laying a cable
> in, not so good for pulling.
>
> When using pipe/conduit always make it much bigger than you think you
> need.  Aside from eventually needing "one more" cable in there, I've
> seen cables jam in an old conduit under a floor.  Concrete-breaking time.
>
>
> -- 
> Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.  www.interstellar.com
> tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886
> Skype:  jerrydurand
>
> 

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Message-ID: <BAY110-DAV11DF7F912C9BD02A237392BDBF0 [at] phx.gbl>
From: "Occy" <OneOccy [at] hotmail.com>
References: <list-40861065 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Jeff Salzberg
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 13:59:54 -0800

<pats on the back>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <MartySrq [at] aol.com>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Jeff,
>  
> For my sins I'm lighting a show at the Florida Tiny Theater Cabaret.
>  
> Yikes,
>  
>  
> Marty
> 

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Message-ID: <74kXCTJigsnFFwTD [at] ntlworld.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 21:50:26 +0000
From: Clive Mitchell <bigclive1 [at] ntlworld.com>
Subject: Re: new ideas for the stage tech olympics...
References: <list-40819393 [at] prxy.net> <list-40820437 [at] prxy.net>
 <list-40821195 [at] prxy.net> <list-40831758 [at] prxy.net> <list-40843104 [at] prxy.net>
 <list-40856840 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-40856840 [at] prxy.net>

In message <list-40856840 [at] prxy.net>, Rigger <rigger [at] tds.net> writes
>The control isn't in your hands, Clivey, it's in your butt-cheeks.

Yes, that was an unfortunate incident.  Fortunately they managed to 
remove it at the hospital.  That's the last time I polish the floor at 
night with no pants on.  :(

-- 
Clive Mitchell
http://www.bigclive.com

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Message-ID: <54AXC6JyosnFFwSz [at] ntlworld.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 21:59:14 +0000
From: Clive Mitchell <bigclive1 [at] ntlworld.com>
Subject: Re: OT: First-aid & liability
References: <list-40860202 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-40860202 [at] prxy.net>

In message <list-40860202 [at] prxy.net>, CB <psyd [at] cox.net> writes
>>Right, where's the youtube video showing how to do an emergency trach?
>
>Well, if I ever *have* to do one, I hope some idiot is there with his 
>cell phone videoing it.  It'll either be an instructive video of how to 
>do an emergency trach or a video showing how *not* to do one...

In that case post it to www.break.com where they specialise in 
misfortune...

http://www.break.com/index/little_dude_big_whiplash.html

-- 
Clive Mitchell
http://www.bigclive.com

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Reply-To: <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
Subject: RE: new ideas for the stage tech olympics...
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 17:27:11 -0500
Message-ID: <01e801c73118$a4cd69d0$6501a8c0 [at] Dell>
In-Reply-To: <list-40873596 [at] prxy.net>

> That's the last time I polish the 
> floor at 
> night with no pants on.  :(

I'll bet it wasn't the first.


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Message-ID: <BAY110-DAV3C72A42D2C424971E12A7BDBF0 [at] phx.gbl>
From: "Occy" <OneOccy [at] hotmail.com>
References: <list-40870708 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Production Crew contracts...
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 14:30:46 -0800

When I took stagecraft at the university  it said right in the course 
catalog, what the amount hours required, weather the hours where in 
production, show and shop. The grade came from the amount of hours spent 
working in the theater or outside events approved by the TD.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jason Cowperthwaite" <jasonclights [at] gmail.com>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> Hey folks,
>
> I have been tasked with developing a crew contract for our students
> here.  Do any of you have a contract that your drama dept. uses that
> you would be willing to share as an example?  Please feel free to
> email me off list if you prefer.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jason Cowperthwaite
> Asst. Technical Director/Production Manager
> Catholic University of America
> 

------------------------------

Message-ID: <459ED5F3.8040000 [at] gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 15:49:23 -0700
From: Chip Wood <chip.a.wood [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: OT: First-aid & liability
References: <list-40820930 [at] prxy.net> <list-40822352 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-40822352 [at] prxy.net>


> RD wrote:

>> I do recall the admonition of one of my clients, a Golf Country Club,
>> posted. If someone has a heart attack on the green, beat them in the 
>> chest
>> with a golf club to start the heart. 

Did it suggest a Driver or a 3-Iron?

Chip

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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <412.11a173ab.32d035dd [at] aol.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 18:14:37 EST
Subject: Re: Semi OT: New first aid stuff

In a message dated 05/01/07 19:07:28 GMT Standard Time, theatretd [at] gmail.com 
writes:

> Wow, this first aid topic exploded!  Just to get back to the original
>  post (clot strips, not field surgery), all I was recommending is to
>  not hand out anything that is a medication.  Band-aids are fine, all
>  they are is sterile cloth with adhesive.  But Tylenol or anything
>  similar is a no-no.  I just renewed my first aid/CPR and AED training,
>  and was told specifically that good Samaritan laws only cover you if
>  you do what you were trained to do.  I was trained to bandage, trained
>  to do CPR, artificial resp., use an AED, trained to immobilize spinal
>  injuries, trained in fall recovery and rescue.  I was NOT trained to
>  give medications, or to cut holes in people.  I hate to be afraid of
>  liability laws, but I am.  I can't afford a multi-million $$ lawsuit.
>  This doesn't even factor in the situations where you're dealing with
>  children and chances of allergies to what you're giving them.
>  And to all the people who said they'd rather have someone try DIY
>  surgery it on them than be dead, well that makes sense, but do your
>  loved ones see it the same way?  If your significant other was choking
>  and someone cuts a hole in their neck that kills them 20 seconds
>  before the professionals arrive.... aren't you going to be out for
>  blood (or $$)?

I was taught much what you were, although I don't recognise some of the sets 
of initials.  But I was also taught that we were there to save life. Period. 
Also to know what needed to be done, and the importance of the time factor. 

Get them breathing and the blood circulation going are prime, and dealing 
with arterial bleeding a close second. After that, you can make a more detailed 
diagnosis, and then deal with the problems. That is if the professionals have 
not yet turned up.

As I have said, I want to deliver to them a living, breathing patient. They 
have more experience and better equioment than I do, together with more 
training. I just do the best I can with what I have to hand, and quickly. That is 
what First Aid is about.

Frank Wood

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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <cf5.3c39019.32d03805 [at] aol.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 18:23:49 EST
Subject: Re: OT: First-aid & liability

In a message dated 05/01/07 21:55:08 GMT Standard Time, billn [at] peak.org writes:

> If you managed to sever a carotid, then you are making things worse - and
>  doing exactly what I said, removing any chance the person might survive
>  without your attempted help.
>  
>  But that won't happen with some quick training. The proper place to make
>  the tracheotomy incision is easy to locate.

Yes, you need to miss the carotid arteries and the jugular veins. I think 
that straight down the middle is best, from what I have seen of tracheatomy 
scars.But I don't KNOW. I just hope that it doesn't come my way.

Frank Wood

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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <be9.bf49a55.32d03925 [at] aol.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 18:28:37 EST
Subject: Re: OT: First-aid & liability

In a message dated 05/01/07 22:49:59 GMT Standard Time, chip.a.wood [at] gmail.com 
writes:

> Did it suggest a Driver or a 3-Iron?

I think a wood would be better. But manual techniques would be better, still.

Frank Wood

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Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 18:35:26 -0500
Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge
From: Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
Message-ID: <C1C44AEE.155CE%Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
In-Reply-To: <11697208.1168021774917.JavaMail.root [at] m41>

CB, I don't even know what plain text is. I think Entourage just randomly
does it. This list is so old, why can't we post in modern formats? Is your
VX1000 having trouble with the font size?

Anyhoo she figgered it out on her own, you cantankerous old Phart.

I don't have a Jimmy I'm Jewish I've got a Mordechai.

_H




On 1/5/07 11:02 AM, "CB" <psyd [at] cox.net> wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
>> <P>Susan Nicholson<BR><BR></P></DIV>
>> <DIV></DIV>
>> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT:
> #a0c6e5 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 11px;
> FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif">
>> <HR color=#a0c6e5 SIZE=1>
> 
> Herrick, dincha tell her that she has to post in plain text when you told
> her about this crew?  If you're gonna jump someone into the gang, you have
> to vouch for them, and show them the ropes, brudda.  Or at least show them
> the do's & don'ts and 'How To Use the List' pages.
> (Susan, kick Herrick in the jimmy for not telling you, and switch to plain
> text...)
> Chris Babbie
> Location Sound
> Tucson, AZ
> Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur
> 

-- 
Herrick Goldman
Lighting Designer, NYC
www.HGLightingDesign.com
917-797-3624
"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in
light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS



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Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 18:23:52 -0500
From: Greg Williams <gwilliams [at] appstate.edu>
Subject: Bat Boy props?
Message-id: <8D32489D-6A7B-4135-B37E-D87981C3DF83 [at] appstate.edu>

Greetings all,
   This request should probably go onto Dave Vick's calendar of semi- 
frequent topics... we're doing "Bat Boy", and I'd like to ask the  
list if anyone has the rabbit, duck, and cow's heads they'd be  
willing to rent or share, or any other props from the show available.  
We'll need the props preferably from mid-March through mid-April.

Thanks in advance,

-=Greg Williams=-
Production Manager
Valborg Theatre, Appalachian State University

www.LRLR.org - 2007 Ride - NY, Ottawa, Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine  
- c'mon and ride with us!



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Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 15:41:12 -0800
From: Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge
In-reply-to: <list-40876169 [at] prxy.net>
Message-id: <7.0.1.0.0.20070105153939.01f386e0 [at] interstellar.com>
References: <11697208.1168021774917.JavaMail.root [at] m41> <list-40876169 [at] prxy.net>

At 03:35 PM 1/5/2007, Herrick Goldman wrote:
>CB, I don't even know what plain text is. I think Entourage just randomly
>does it. This list is so old, why can't we post in modern formats? Is your
>VX1000 having trouble with the font size?

Posting in modern formats will break some people's e-mail programs, 
bump up your spam score on any of us dumb enough to filter messages, 
and allow the sending of "evil" HTML code (tracking or worse).



-- 
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.  www.interstellar.com
tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886
Skype:  jerrydurand


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Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 20:25:05 -0500
From: "David Stock" <Dave [at] davidpauldesigns.com>
Subject: RE: realistic dock planking
In-reply-to: AAAAADQADevc/f1MkMKro7AzA4Tk7ioA
Message-id: <PNEMJAMCJPKDLNNINPHJOEPHCKAA.Dave [at] davidpauldesigns.com>


I suggest you contact a local mill or lumber supply company and inquire
about ruff cut lumber.


Stock, David Paul






-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Storms,
Randy
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 11:17 AM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: realistic dock planking


For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

For our upcoming production of Scapino, which is set on the waterfront of
Naples, Italy; the director has asked for a system of docks extending from
the stage into the house.

These docks will be used for the many "chase" scenes in the show, and so
must support two or more actors running, jumping, etc.

I'd like to create the illusion that the docks are constructed of heavy old
weathered planking (~3"x12")and I need to find a cheap/easy/lightweight way
to accomplish this.  The only idea I haven't rejected so far is to build the
docks with plywood, then "plank" 'em with scene paint.  The trouble is that
the docks will be seen by the audience from a distance of only about five
feet, and in some cases the audience will be able to see the top, side, end,
and bottom of the  "planks".

Does anyone have a suggestion for how to accomplish this realistically?

Many thanks in advance,

Randy Storms
rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu


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Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 21:00:05 -0500
Subject: Re: Another job
From: Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
Message-ID: <C1C46CD5.17A80%bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-40875987 [at] prxy.net>

Hi.  Thanks to everyone that responded to my post for a research assistant.
I have filled that position.

Thanks
Bill S.
ETCP Certified Rigger - Theatre
ETCP Council Member
www.sapsis-rigging.com
800.727.7471
267.278.4561 mobile

The Long Reach Long Riders ride again.  July 29 - Aug 6 in New England.
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Message-ID: <426599590701051809r2efdb11ex58a6572e5e5c0ec3 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 16:09:18 -1000
From: "Jenny Yi" <jenny.yi08 [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Any Undergraduate Theater Information Appreciated!

Hello, my name is Jenny Yi and I am currently a junior at Iolani
School in Honolulu, Hawaii. I've long been interested in the technical
and management side of theatre and was wondering if anyone had any
information or brochures or advice that may help me?

I also have a few questions about the undergraduate program itself and
its connection with the graduate program. I'm looking for a school
that will allow me to pursue 'stage management' independently if there
is no program while also allowing me to learn scene, costume,
lighting, and sound design. In particular, I'd much prefer a school
whose undergraduate program was independent or separate from its
graduate program.

I also want to ask those in the profession now how they decided
theatre was where they wanted to work and roughly when they knew or
decided that. Was it at the start of college or after taking a few
classes?

I'd appreciate any information and feedback. Thank you so much for your time.

-- 
With much aloha,
Jenny Yi

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Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 21:42:09 -0500
Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge
From: Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
Message-ID: <C1C476B1.155DC%Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
In-Reply-To: <20689900.1168040906383.JavaMail.root [at] m41>

Yeah and you still use the telegraph to avoid solicitors?
We've had this argument before but really....do you NOT accept HTML from
other people who e-mail you?

_H

On 1/5/07 6:41 PM, "Jerry Durand" <jdurand [at] interstellar.com> wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> At 03:35 PM 1/5/2007, Herrick Goldman wrote:
>> CB, I don't even know what plain text is. I think Entourage just randomly
>> does it. This list is so old, why can't we post in modern formats? Is your
>> VX1000 having trouble with the font size?
> 
> Posting in modern formats will break some people's e-mail programs,
> bump up your spam score on any of us dumb enough to filter messages,
> and allow the sending of "evil" HTML code (tracking or worse).
> 
> 

-- 
Herrick Goldman
Lighting Designer, NYC
www.HGLightingDesign.com
917-797-3624
"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in
light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS



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Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 21:50:58 -0500
From: "Kurt Cypher" <kurt.stagecraftlist [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge
In-Reply-To: <list-40876382 [at] prxy.net>
References: <11697208.1168021774917.JavaMail.root [at] m41> <list-40876169 [at] prxy.net>
	 <list-40876382 [at] prxy.net>

On 1/5/07, Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com> wrote:
> At 03:35 PM 1/5/2007, Herrick Goldman wrote:
> >CB, I don't even know what plain text is. I think Entourage just randomly
> >does it. This list is so old, why can't we post in modern formats? Is your
> >VX1000 having trouble with the font size?
>
> Posting in modern formats will break some people's e-mail programs,
> bump up your spam score on any of us dumb enough to filter messages,
> and allow the sending of "evil" HTML code (tracking or worse).
>

Also, the HTML and fancy-formatted email takes up a lot more space on
the email server, so those who have limited space in their INBOX can
run out of room faster when receiving a lot of email in so-called
modern formats.

Kurt

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Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 18:52:55 -0800
From: Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge
In-reply-to: <list-40880811 [at] prxy.net>
Message-id: <08AC2CBF-81FB-48C1-B825-D4C73E007690 [at] interstellar.com>
References: <list-40880811 [at] prxy.net>

On Jan 5, 2007, at 6:42 PM, Herrick Goldman wrote:
> Yeah and you still use the telegraph to avoid solicitors?
> We've had this argument before but really....do you NOT accept HTML  
> from
> other people who e-mail you?

I do accept it, it bumps up the spam score a bit.  Sometimes I have  
to transfer messages to a text only mode so I can read them (ultra  
tiny font or color contrasts that just don't work with my eyes).   
Some HTML code that is especially poorly written crashes my mail  
program (Eudora, using IE to handle the HTML), so I can't read those  
messages at all.  And, one of my brothers always sends messages with  
spyware graphics in it (which I have blocked).

Still doesn't mean the list should forward all that to the millions  
of readers of Stagecraft.  Now, if there was only a sanitizer for  
HTML that would toss out the trouble-causing bits and keep the good  
bits.

There's also the people (not me) who use mail readers that are  
incapable of reading HTML.

HTML doesn't play well with digests, either.  If one person calls for  
a green background and the next calls for blue and the next white and  
the next plaid, what background is your mail reader supposed to use?



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Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 21:56:30 -0500
From: Rigger <rigger [at] tds.net>
Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge

At 9:42 PM -0500 1/5/07, Herrick Goldman wrote:

>We've had this argument before but really....do you NOT accept HTML from
>other people who e-mail you?


I don't.  Email is a text medium.

Wanna write in HTML? Then put up a website, and blessings on you.

-- 
Dave Vick
rigger [at] tds.net
20/20 Design

      "Stupidity cannot be cured with money, or through education,
       or by legislation. Stupidity is not a sin, the victim can't
       help being stupid. But stupidity is the only universal
       capital crime, the sentence is death, there is no appeal,
       and execution is carried out automatically and without pity."

                                      --Robert Heinlein

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Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 21:56:49 -0500
From: "Kurt Cypher" <kurt.stagecraftlist [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge
In-Reply-To: <list-40880811 [at] prxy.net>
References: <20689900.1168040906383.JavaMail.root [at] m41> <list-40880811 [at] prxy.net>

On 1/5/07, Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] hglightingdesign.com> wrote:
>
> Yeah and you still use the telegraph to avoid solicitors?
> We've had this argument before but really....do you NOT accept HTML from
> other people who e-mail you?
>

I accept HTML emails, but I have my normal email client (non-gmail)
set up to not display HTML by default, in case it contains some of the
aforementioned "evil" HTML tracking or worse code.  Plus, since email
clients are not web browsers, you can never be absolutely certain that
the HTML code will show up the same on someone else's email client as
it does on yours, unless they're using the same software.

Kurt

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Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 22:11:06 -0500
Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge
From: Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
Message-ID: <C1C47D7A.155E9%Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
In-Reply-To: <25670167.1168052133282.JavaMail.root [at] m41>

Folks it can't be that hard. I get the single e-mail version but I read much
of my e-mail on my cell phone and it deals just fine. It doesn't translate
the HTML it just makes it plain text. For instance Susan's first e-mails
came thru just fine on my phone. If my little widget can do it why can't
your super computers?

Ther aren't millions of us and I bet the majority can read HTML just fine.
But anyway I always lose this argument to the luddites who refuse to change
so...fortunately my associate Susan has managed to figure out how to so
Plain text for you guys.

BTW I'm in the process of teaching my dad how to use Sirius Satellite Radio,
The Met broadcasts on channel 85, and he has to activate it and then figure
out how to hook it up to his 1964 Kenwood receiver/amp. It's a very similar
conversation to this one.

-Herrick


On 1/5/07 9:52 PM, "Jerry Durand" <jdurand [at] interstellar.com> wrote:


> 
> Still doesn't mean the list should forward all that to the millions
> of readers of Stagecraft.  Now, if there was only a sanitizer for
> HTML that would toss out the trouble-causing bits and keep the good
> bits.
> 
> There's also the people (not me) who use mail readers that are
> incapable of reading HTML.
> 
> HTML doesn't play well with digests, either.  If one person calls for
> a green background and the next calls for blue and the next white and
> the next plaid, what background is your mail reader supposed to use?
> 
> 
> 

-- 
Herrick Goldman
Lighting Designer, NYC
www.HGLightingDesign.com
917-797-3624
"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in
light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS



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Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 03:18:06 +0000 (GMT)
From: Charlie Richmond <charlier [at] RichmondSoundDesign.com>
Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge
In-Reply-To: <list-40881459 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0701060314590.17834 [at] viscount.richmondsounddesign.com>
References: <list-40881459 [at] prxy.net>

On Fri, 5 Jan 2007, Herrick Goldman wrote:

> Folks it can't be that hard. I get the single e-mail version but I read much
> of my e-mail on my cell phone and it deals just fine. It doesn't translate
> the HTML it just makes it plain text. For instance Susan's first e-mails
> came thru just fine on my phone. If my little widget can do it why can't
> your super computers?

Absolutely!  The best mail readers condense the info down to the basic 
essentials of communication.  That's what pine does for me on my super computer 
and what the reader in a portable device does, too!  It's fast, great, necessary 
and convenient - essential, really.  If someone really has to have me see some 
fancy graphic I most likely won't want to deal with it while I'm catching up 
with my 500 messages a day anyway....

C

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Reply-To: <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
From: "RD" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RE: OT: First-aid & liability
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 20:27:19 -0700
Message-ID: <02f401c73142$a09c9f50$6501a8c0 [at] doom1>
In-Reply-To: <list-40860202 [at] prxy.net>

Oh it does occur. Someone sending the directions by cell ....it does occur.
Doom 

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of CB
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 10:51 AM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: OT: First-aid & liability

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>Right, where's the youtube video showing how to do an emergency trach?

Well, if I ever *have* to do one, I hope some idiot is there with his cell
phone videoing it.  It'll either be an instructive video of how to do an
emergency trach or a video showing how *not* to do one...
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012


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Reply-To: <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
From: "RD" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RE: OT: First-aid & liability
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 20:27:19 -0700
Message-ID: <02f501c73142$a11af710$6501a8c0 [at] doom1>
In-Reply-To: <list-40861165 [at] prxy.net>

Oh. You are right few miracles that we know of and no angelic forms to the
rescue, that we know of ....hmn. Dr. doom

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of CB
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 11:21 AM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: OT: First-aid & liability

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>Without the training, you just cutting a hole and praying.

This is being my point.  If you are a trained surgeon, or an EMT, or an RN,
it really isn't good sam first-aid, it's wualified medical assistance.  If
you're just a goof with a carpet knife, a steady hand, and a strong
stomach, you cut a hole and pray.  Betas the heck out of just praying.
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012


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Reply-To: <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
From: "RD" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RE: Semi OT: New first aid stuff
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 20:27:19 -0700
Message-ID: <02fb01c73142$a242ae30$6501a8c0 [at] doom1>
In-Reply-To: <list-40861859 [at] prxy.net>

And to all the people, myself included, who are on regular Warfarin, blood
thinner ...watch out for nose bleeds, pockets knives, etc. Doom 

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Jason
Salvatori
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 12:07 PM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: Semi OT: New first aid stuff

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Wow, this first aid topic exploded!  Just to get back to the original
post (clot strips, not field surgery), all I was recommending is to
not hand out anything that is a medication.  Band-aids are fine, all
they are is sterile cloth with adhesive.  But Tylenol or anything
similar is a no-no.  I just renewed my first aid/CPR and AED training,
and was told specifically that good Samaritan laws only cover you if
you do what you were trained to do.  I was trained to bandage, trained
to do CPR, artificial resp., use an AED, trained to immobilize spinal
injuries, trained in fall recovery and rescue.  I was NOT trained to
give medications, or to cut holes in people.  I hate to be afraid of
liability laws, but I am.  I can't afford a multi-million $$ lawsuit.
This doesn't even factor in the situations where you're dealing with
children and chances of allergies to what you're giving them.
And to all the people who said they'd rather have someone try DIY
surgery it on them than be dead, well that makes sense, but do your
loved ones see it the same way?  If your significant other was choking
and someone cuts a hole in their neck that kills them 20 seconds
before the professionals arrive.... aren't you going to be out for
blood (or $$)?

There's my rant on the subject.

Jason Salvatori
Technical Director
Vaughan City Playhouse


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Reply-To: <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
From: "RD" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RE: Stage Directions Magazine
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 20:27:19 -0700
Message-ID: <02fc01c73142$a2b51f10$6501a8c0 [at] doom1>
In-Reply-To: <list-40862388 [at] prxy.net>

Absolutely, Richard. Kudos for Pat. Doom 

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of
ladesigners [at] juno.com
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 12:19 PM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: Stage Directions Magazine

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I feel that Patrica did a good job with what she got from Rodale Press
/s/Richard
___________________________________


I just today received my January issue - a well balanced publication, 
reminiscent of the old "Theatre Crafts" magazine I loved so much 
before they changed the format and ruined it!

Randy Storms



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