Return-Path: X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 40892256; Sat, 06 Jan 2007 03:01:31 -0800 X-List-Processed: mail.prxy.net X-ListMember: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 40892255; Sat, 06 Jan 2007 03:01:31 -0800 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on localhost X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=ADVANCE_FEE_1,AWL,NO_RECEIVED, NO_RELAYS,SARE_MILLIONSOF,SUBJ_HAS_UNIQ_ID,URIBL_SBL autolearn=no version=3.1.7 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: List-Archive: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #1077 Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 03:00:56 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #1077 1. Re: Semi OT: New first aid stuff by "RD" 2. Re: OT: First-aid & liability by "RD" 3. Stage Directions Mag Now Free to the trade by "Michael Powers" 4. Re: Herrick's pledge by Herrick Goldman 5. Re: Herrick's pledge by Herrick Goldman 6. Re: Any Undergraduate Theater Information Appreciated! by Steve Shelley 7. Re: OT: First-aid & liability by "Steven Santos" 8. Re: Avery Fisher Hall Lighting plot by Brian Aldous 9. Re: Herrick's pledge by Rigger 10. Re: Herrick's pledge by Herrick Goldman 11. Re: Herrick's pledge by Rigger 12. Re: Herrick's pledge by Rigger 13. Re: Fatal fall at the opera by Al Fitch 14. Re: Herrick's pledge by Herrick Goldman 15. FW: Herrick's pledge by Herrick Goldman 16. Re: Herrick's pledge by "Bill Nelson" 17. Re: Herrick's pledge by Rigger 18. Re: Herrick's pledge by Rigger 19. Re: Herrick's pledge by Herrick Goldman 20. Re: Herrick's pledge by Rigger 21. Re: Undergraduate Info by "paul.guncheon [at] hawaiiantel.net" 22. Re: Herrick's pledge by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 23. Re: Herrick's pledge by Stephen Lee 24. Re: Herrick's pledge by "Kurt Cypher" 25. Re: realistic dock planking by "paul.guncheon [at] hawaiiantel.net" 26. If you are interested in CPR... by Stephen Lee 27. Re: Any Undergraduate Theater Information Appreciated! by "Tim Catlett" 28. Re: Herrick's pledge by "Occy" 29. Re: Herrick's pledge by "Occy" 30. Re: Herrick's pledge by "Occy" 31. Re: Herrick's pledge by "Occy" 32. Re: Herrick's pledge by "Occy" 33. Re: Herrick's pledge by "Occy" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Reply-To: From: "RD" Subject: RE: Semi OT: New first aid stuff Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 20:27:19 -0700 Message-ID: <02fd01c73142$a33f5db0$6501a8c0 [at] doom1> In-Reply-To: And just to think I recommend, for many years, at least $5 million. And still do. Dr. Doom Must have been my ten years with A& A and others. -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Michael Brubaker Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 1:45 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Semi OT: New first aid stuff For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Given that many of us are in supervisory or otherwise responsible roles, and even if you're not, most of us should have enough insurance, PERSONALLY, to cover at least a $1.5 million lawsuit. Personal umbrella liability insurance is CHEAP. I pay $200 a year (in Indiana). There are probably even less expensive policies out there. That covers me for stupid kids doing stupid things, dog bites, personal injury that exceeds my auto policy's coverage, you get the picture. Mike Brubaker Head of Design Associated Controls + Design 6850 N Guion Rd Indianapolis, IN 46268 T: 800.382.3961 x117 T: 317.298.3961 x117 F: 317-293-0281 -----Original Message----- Jason Salvatori wrote: give medications, or to cut holes in people. I hate to be afraid of liability laws, but I am. I can't afford a multi-million $$ lawsuit. This doesn't even factor in the situations where you're dealing with ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "RD" Subject: RE: OT: First-aid & liability Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 20:27:19 -0700 Message-ID: <030401c73142$bd020fe0$6501a8c0 [at] doom1> In-Reply-To: A woodie. Doom Splinters? Ouch. -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Chip Wood Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 3:49 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: OT: First-aid & liability For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- > RD wrote: >> I do recall the admonition of one of my clients, a Golf Country Club, >> posted. If someone has a heart attack on the green, beat them in the >> chest >> with a golf club to start the heart. Did it suggest a Driver or a 3-Iron? Chip ------------------------------ Message-ID: <58f67b0f0701051930x45cc3333m16cf8fa47fbc4aec [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 21:30:40 -0600 From: "Michael Powers" Subject: Stage Directions Mag Now Free to the trade I saw this on another news list and was told I could reprint it here if anyone is interested. Now available in either print or digital form. ================ I wanted the list to know that from this point on there is no charge to receive Stage Directions magazine. Stage Directions is the only independently published technical theatre magazine in North America. In the past SD had always been a paid subscription publication. If the cost of the magazine held you back from receiving Stage Directions, we invite you to start your free subscription by simply going to: www.stage-directions.com/subscribe If you start your free subscription before Monday you will receive the February issue. If you wait till after Monday it will be the March issue you will first receive. We believe we are making Stage Directions a more relevant and interesting editorial product for you. We hope you take the time to subscribe. -- Michael Michael Powers Director of Operations Central Lighting & Equipment 1720 Fuller Rd. Suite 150 West Des Moines Iowa 50265 515-277-4190 877-977-4190 Fax 515-277-2295 515-557-0178 cell michael [at] clelights.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 22:32:40 -0500 Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4974358.1168052719336.JavaMail.root [at] m41> Dave, Kurt, Jerry, and other Luddites, I do have a website Dave. And how dare you defend the old status quo and quote RAH at the same time? Curmudgeon! E-mail is a text medium, our art is not...imagine what we could communicate with it (e-mail) if we weren't stuck in text. For instance I could show you the full moonrise I photographed over The Sangre De Christos the other night. The moon was uplighting the clouds (silver and black) over Taos and then it just "popped" up in the space of about 2 minutes. Totally incredible and No director would believe it if I did it that quickly onstage. But Alas I'll have to e-mail those photos to people who can accept files. I also had a brilliant conversation with a painter about Cadmium Paint and painting the back of a canvas with Iron Oxide. You can see the painting here The red rectangle Mandala called Chi. After an hour and a half of us talking about backlighting his canvas and the way his paint reacts with light, he sold us a retake of the painting. I could have included this image in HTML rather than wasting your time launching your browsers. Then of course there is the artwork across the street from him by Walker Moore http://www.grimshawfineart.com/walkermoorei.html The woman in the gallery was trying to explain how the artists use casein paint and collaborate together. Both my wife (a patent attorney in working in pharma) and I surprised her by teaching her even more about casein. The paintings actually seem to change depending on the light cast on them. You can also wash them with water. The bio of Walker Moore would look better if I formatted it differently here but I'll just paste it. "Husband-and-wife team efforts, while not uncommon in film, theater, music and dance, have always been rare in the visual arts. Records indicate that couples as far back as the 14th century worked as illuminators, providing decorative illustrations for manuscripts. In the intervening centuries, painterly collaboration occurred in many highly organized and successful studios, though it was usually conducted by a master painter assisted by specialists or apprentices. Collaboration between equals, in the manner of Walker and Moore was extremely rare. Rarer still is the way John and Roxann set aside their early attempts at specialization in exchange for the freedom to work together on every part of every painting by modifying, painting over, and adding to each other's brushstrokes. In the mid-eighties, Walker and Moore focused their attention on the stark architectural subjects that, along with their unique style, have become a trademark of their work. Roxann likens them to an "empty stage in a theater, a place where the imagination of the viewer is invited inside to complete the painting". With this deliberate effort to draw the viewer into the final act of creative collaboration, they allow perceptions of the work to change and evolve over time, shifting with the mood or light. For this reason, the artists seldom render actual locations, finding this common approach too constraining. Instead, they give viewers the complete freedom to remember, imagine or dream. While traveling widely in search of ideas, Walker and Moore take the unusual approach of layering the new designs, materials and colors they find on top of earlier discoveries, producing composite images made from bits and pieces around the world. In the interest of preserving domestic tranquility, John and Roxann long ago decided to take turns while painting, rather than work simultaneously. As they trade the painting back and forth, usually ten or more times prior to completion, each has complete freedom to change, or add to, any part of the work. Not surprisingly, the results are unpredictable. This lack of certainty does not trouble them, however, and they find it both stimulating and challenging to return to a painting that has changed in their absence. Nor is their creative expression limited by their choices of a painting medium. Casein is the least used of the water mediums which, though difficult to master, in patient hands, can be highly versatile and expressive." I could have Bolded and underlined their "Empty Stage" concept. But if you take the time and read the above you'll eventually find it. Nonetheless I've hopefully managed to communicate with you tonight and also to show you some fun art that will soon be hanging on my wall. Keep living in last year. BTW the next Mac OS will have a built in Wiki server so maybe we'll try and change it all again. ...Love ya...mean it... _Herrick On 1/5/07 9:56 PM, "Rigger" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > At 9:42 PM -0500 1/5/07, Herrick Goldman wrote: > >> We've had this argument before but really....do you NOT accept HTML from >> other people who e-mail you? > > > I don't. Email is a text medium. > > Wanna write in HTML? Then put up a website, and blessings on you. > > -- > Dave Vick > rigger [at] tds.net > 20/20 Design > > "Stupidity cannot be cured with money, or through education, > or by legislation. Stupidity is not a sin, the victim can't > help being stupid. But stupidity is the only universal > capital crime, the sentence is death, there is no appeal, > and execution is carried out automatically and without pity." > > --Robert Heinlein -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 22:33:34 -0500 Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1507194.1168053628032.JavaMail.root [at] m41> We thank you for your support. On 1/5/07 10:18 PM, "Charlie Richmond" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > Absolutely! The best mail readers condense the info down to the basic > essentials of communication. That's what pine does for me on my super > computer > -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 22:33:20 -0500 Subject: Re: Any Undergraduate Theater Information Appreciated! From: Steve Shelley Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Hello jenny; Welcome to the list. I presume that Iolani School is a high school? If so you are beginning the search for an undergraduate school at the right time, (some would say you are already a bit behind). Regardless, fasten your seat belt. The information you ask for are immense topics. For starts, you should consider in your heart if this is what you want to do. Theatre in general is fun from the outside but a great deal of work, effort, and emotional cost on the inside. Most believe that technical theatre is even more difficult than that of a performer. You must believe that this is the only thing that you can and want to do. And if not, save yourself a lot of pain, get out now. and go find your passion elsewhere. Otherwise, read on. Next step, speak to all of the professionals and educators in hawaii. There's an immense amount of skill and experience right there that you can tap, without even bothering with a keyboard. You can find many of them through this list. Moving to the internet, for high school tech information, scott parker has his very helpful site ( http://www.hstech.org/) In north america, the USA educational college theatre group is USITT (www.usitt.org). The canadian equivalent is ( http://www.citt.org/) There are many more organizations worldwide. Start with technical theatre educational words in google. You'll spend hours. There are more link pages than you can shake a stick at. Google (or alternate search engine) will also be a good start for searching out your educational hopes. Start out with "stage management" "educational" and you should be on your way. You might also later include "scholarships" and "financial aid" to help hone your choices. Some view the graduate level as an extension of the undergrad experience to provide you with more skills and training. Others see it as a way for them to suck more money out of your wallet. Sadly, there is no set direction or path. Your experience, choices, and reactions will be your own. A lot of the folks on this list have their own experiences and can offer thoughts and opinions. Some general information (and somewhere a list of their theatres) is TCG, theatre communications group. (http://www.tcg.org) There are unions and organizations that also provide information. For stage management, stage manager's association ( http://www.stagemanagers.org/). In north america, the union stage manager usually belongs to the same union as the performers. For actors, that's equity or AEA: (http://www.actorsequity.com). For singers and dancers, it's AGMA: (http://www.musicalartists.org/HomePage.htm) or sometimes AGVA (can't find this web site). There are many more be these will help you begin your search. For design in north america, united scenic artists (www.usa829.org) These only scratch the surface of your search, and your journey. But the members of this list will be more that willing to help. No doubt they will also contribute with their own suggestions and ideas. Finally, I started in theatre doing puppets. I figured out in my sophomore year in high school that I was stuck and going to end up, somehow, in theatre. Welcome aboard and good luck, shelley On 1/5/07 9:09 PM, "Jenny Yi" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hello, my name is Jenny Yi and I am currently a junior at Iolani > School in Honolulu, Hawaii. I've long been interested in the technical > and management side of theatre and was wondering if anyone had any > information or brochures or advice that may help me? > > I also have a few questions about the undergraduate program itself and > its connection with the graduate program. I'm looking for a school > that will allow me to pursue 'stage management' independently if there > is no program while also allowing me to learn scene, costume, > lighting, and sound design. In particular, I'd much prefer a school > whose undergraduate program was independent or separate from its > graduate program. > > I also want to ask those in the profession now how they decided > theatre was where they wanted to work and roughly when they knew or > decided that. Was it at the start of college or after taking a few > classes? > > I'd appreciate any information and feedback. Thank you so much for your time. -- Steve Shelley SoftSymbols Designer MrTemplate [at] Earthlink.net www.fieldtemplate.com ------------------------------ From: "Steven Santos" Subject: RE: OT: First-aid & liability Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 22:36:57 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > >Without the training, you just cutting a hole and praying. > > This is being my point. If you are a trained surgeon, or an EMT, > or an RN, it really isn't good sam first-aid, it's qualified > medical assistance. If you're just a goof with a carpet knife, a > steady hand, and a strong stomach, you cut a hole and pray. > Beats the heck out of just praying. And good CPR/airway obstruction techniques beats the heck out of either one. Here is an up-to-date overview of good sam laws: By: Lindsay Barton MomsTeam Health & Safety Editor Reviewed: by Glenn Laub, MD What Is A "Good Samaritan Law?" Good Samaritan laws: - Help protect rescuers voluntarily helping a victim in distress from being successfully sued in tort (i.e. for wrongdoing). - Are designed to encourage people to help a stranger who needs assistance by reducing or eliminating the fear that, if they do so, they will suffer possible legal repercussions in the event that they inadvertently make a mistake in treating the victim. - Were primarily developed for first aid situations. - Differ from state to state - Most states require that the victim not object to receiving aid, but do not the victim's consent (which, of course, could not be given if the victim was unconscious). - The laws of some states, such as Nevada, apply to all citizens. - The laws of other states, such as California, are written specifically for physicians. The statutes listed below use similar or identical basic standard for assessing the liability of persons rendering emergency medical care: "Any person who, in good faith, renders emergency medical care or assistance to an injured person at the scene of an accident or other emergency without the expectation of receiving or intending to receive compensation from such injured person for such service, shall not be liable in civil damages for any act or omission, not constituting gross negligence, in the course of such care or assistance." Relevant individual state statutes are as follows: Alabama Ala. Code ?6-5-332 (1975) Ala. Code ?6-5-332.3 (1999)(AED use) Provides immunity for lay rescuers but no extended immunity; Provides immunity for AED acquirers and enablers; and Encourages/requires CPR & AED training at AHA, ARC or other recognized course. Alaska Alaska Stat. ?09.65.090 (Michie 2000) Alaska Stat. ?18.08.086 (Michie 2000) Provides immunity for rescuers; and Encourages/requires CPR & AED training at AHA, ARC or other nationally recognized course Arizona Ariz. Rev. Stat. ?2263 (2000) Gen. Stat. Ariz. Rev. Stat. ?2262 (2000)(Use & training AED req) Ariz. Rev. Stat. ?2264 (2000)(AED exemption) Ariz. Rev. Stat. ?2261 (2000) AED def. Ariz. Rev. Stat. Ann. ?36.2263 (2002) Provides immunity for rescuers Provides immunity for AED acquirers and enablers Requires American Heart Association (AHA) "Heartsaver" AED training Arkansas Ark. Code Ann. ?17-95-101 (Michie 1999) Gen. Ark. Code Ann. ?17-95-605 (Michie 1999) AED. Provides immunity for rescuers Provides immunity for acquirers and enablers of AEDs Encourages/requires CPR & AED training. California Cal. Health and Safety Code ?1317 (1973) Cal. Civ. ?1714-21 (West 2000)(AED Immunity) Cal. Health & Safety ?1797.190 (West 2000)(Reqmts for owners of AED, penalties for violators) Calif. Bus & Prof. Code ? (West 2000)(Gen. Stat.) Provides immunity for rescuers Provides immunity for acquirers and enablers of AED Encourages/requires CPR & AED training to AHA or ARC standards Colorado Colo. Rev. Stat. ?13.21-108 (1997) Provides immunity for rescuers Encourages/requires training CPR & AED training. Connecticut Conn. Gen. Stat. ?52-557b(2000) Provides immunity to rescuers Encourages/requires CPR & AED training to AHA and ARC standards. Delaware Del. Code Ann. Tit.24 ?1767 (1975) Provides immunity for rescuers through existing Good Samaritan Statute. District of Columbia D.C. Code Ann. ?7-401(1981) Provides immunity for rescuers. Florida Fla. Stat. Ann. ?401.2915 (West 2000)(Training & contact EMS reqs.) Fla. Stat. Ann. ?768.13 (West 2000)(Gen. Stat.) Provides immunity for rescuers Encourages/requires CPR & AED training. Georgia Ga. Code Ann. ?51-1-29 (1982)(Gen. Stat.) Provides immunity for rescuers Provides immunity for AED acquirers and enablers Encourages/requires CPR & AED training approved by Dept. of Human Resources Hawaii Haw. Rev. Stat. ?663-1.5(1969) Haw. Rev. Stat. ?453-2 (1999)(License Req.) Haw. Rev. Stat. ?457-8 (1999)(License Req.) Provides immunity for rescuers Provides immunity for acquirers and enablers of AED but not for trainers Encourages/requires CPR & AED training under an AED program administered by a physician Idaho Idaho Code ?39-7113 (1948) Idaho Code ?5-330 (1999)(Gen. Stat.) Provides immunity for rescuers Encourages/requires CPR & AED training Illinois 745 Ill. Comp. Stat. 49.12 (West 2000) Provides immunity for rescuers Provides immunity for AED acquirers and enablers Encourages/requires CRP & AED training at AHA standard Indiana Ind. Code Ann. ?15-5-1.1-31 (1977) Ind. Code Ann. ?34-4-12.1 (West 2000) Provides immunity for rescuers Encourages/requires CPR & AED training -national or state approved course Iowa Iowa Code ?613.17 (1982)(Gen. Stat.) Provides same immunity for rescuers as for other EMS providers Does not provide rescuers immunity for acquirers and enablers Encourages/requires CPR & AED training approved by Dept. of Public Health Kansas Kan. Stat. Ann. ?65-2891 (1965) Kan. Stat. Ann. ?65-2981 (1999) Kan. Stat. Ann. ?65-6128 (1999) Kan. Stat. Ann. ?65-6129(b) (1999)(Certification necessary) Provides immunity for rescuers No immunity provided for acquirers and enablers Encourages some training elements, including first aid and proficiency in AED Kentucky Ky. Rev. Stat. Ann. ?311.668 (2000) Ky. Rev. Stat. Ann. ?411.148 (Banks-Baldwin 1999)(Gen. Stat.) Provides immunity for rescuers Provides immunity for acquirers and enablers Encourages/requires CPR & AED Training such as AHA, ARC or other nationally recognized training course. Louisiana La. Rev. Stat. Ann. ?37.1732 (West 1984) La. Rev. Stat. Ann. ?9.2793 (West 2000)(Gratuitous Service Immunity) La. Rev. Stat. Ann. ?40.1236.14 (West 2000)(AED Immunity) La. Rev. Stat. Ann. ?40.1236.13 (West 2000)(Training Req.) Provides immunity for rescuers Encourages/requires AHA or other nationally recognized course Maine Me. Rev. Stat. Ann. ?32-93 (1985) Me. Rev. Stat. Ann. Tit. 14 ?164 (West 2000)(Gen., Stat) Provides immunity for rescuers Maryland Md. Code Ann., Cts. & Jud. Pro. ?5-603 (1982)(Gen. Stat) Provides immunity for rescuers Provides immunity for acquirers and enablers, except trainees Encourages CPR & AED Training Massachusetts Mass. Gen. Laws Ann. Ch. 12 ?111c, 112 (2000)(AED Stat) Provides immunity for rescuers Provides immunity for acquirers and enablers-MD, Acquirer Encourages/requires AHA or ARC guidelines training Michigan Mich. Stat. Ann. ?691.1501 (1987) Mich. Comp. Laws ?333.70965(2) (1999)(AED Stat.) Provides immunity for rescuers Provides immunity for acquirers and enablers - acquirer, MD, Trainer Minnesota Minn. Stat. ?604.A.01 (1994) Provides immunity for rescuers Provides immunity for acquirers and enablers as part of a Good Samaritan Mississippi Miss. Code Ann. ?73-25-37 (1962)(amended 2000) Immunity provided for trained responders Immunity provided for trainers and MD's only as Acquirers and Enablers Encourages/requires CPR and AED training Missouri Mo. Rev. Stat. ?190.092 (2000)(AED Immunity) Mo. Rev. Stat. ?537.037 (1979) Gen. Stat. Provides immunity for rescuers Does not provide immunity for acquirers and enablers Encourages/requires CPR and AED training Montana Mont. Code. Ann. ?27-1-714(1963) Gen. Stat. Mont. Code. Ann. 50-6-505 (2000)(AED Limited Liability) Mont. Code. Ann. 50-6-501 (2000)(AED Def.) Mont. Code. Ann. 50-6-502 (2000)(Req. for AED use) Mont. Code Ann. 50-6-503 (2000)(Training Reqmts) Mont. Code Ann. 27-1-186 (2000)(Gen. Stat.) Provides immunity for rescuers Provides immunity for acquirers and enablers Encourages/requires CPR & AED Training Nebraska Neb. Rev. St. ?71-5194 (1997) Neb. Rev. St. ?71-5178 (2000)(AED Plan) Neb. Rev. St. ?71-51,102 (2000)(AED Def.) Neb. Rev. St. ?25-21-186 (2000)(Gen. Stat.) Provides immunity for rescuers Does not provide immunity for acquirers and enablers Encourages/requires CPR & AED Training Nevada Nev. Rev. Stat. ?41.500 (1963) Nev. Rev. Stat. ?41.500.8 (2000)(AED User Limited Liability) Nev. Rev. Stat. ?41.506 (2000)(Gen. Stat.) Provided immunity for rescuers Provides immunity for acquirers and enablers, except physicians Encourages/requires CPR & AED training- AHA or ARC standards New Hampshire N.H. Rev. Stat. Ann. ? 508:12 (1997)(Gen. Stat.) N.H. Rev. Stat. Ann. ? 153-A:11(2000)(AED Exception to Liability) N.H. Rev. Stat. Ann. ?153-A:28 (2000)(intent) N.H. Rev. Stat. Ann. ?153-A:29 (2000)(def.) N.H. Rev. Stat. Ann. ?153-A:30 (2000)(raining) N.H. Rev. Stat. Ann. ?153-A:31 (2000)(AED limited liability) N.H. Rev. Stat. Ann. ?508.12-a(2000) Provides immunity for rescuers Encourages/requires CPR & AED training New Jersey N.J. Stat. Ann. ?2A:62A (1963) N.J. Stat. Ann. ?2A:2A-23 (West 2000)(Legis. findings on AED) N.J. Stat. Ann. ?2A-62A-24 (West 2000)(AED Def.) N.J. Stat. Ann. ?2A-62A-25 (West 2000)(Req. of Acquisition of AED) N.J. Stat. Ann. ?2A:62A-26 (West 2000)(Cert for use) N.J. Stat. Ann. ?2A:62A-27 (West 2000)(AED Civil Liab.) N.J. Stat. Ann. ?2A-62A-1 (West 2000)(Gen. Stat.) Provides immunity for rescuers For AED in business/comm. Sites require company to have plan In place before doctor will prescribe AED. Encourages/requires CPR & AED Training New Mexico N.M. Stat. Ann. ?24-10B-4M (Michie 2000)(AED Plan) N.M. Stat. Ann. ?24-10C-2 (Michie 2000)(Legis. Findings) N.M. Stat. Ann. ?24-10C-3 (Michie 2000)(AED Def.) N.M. Stat. Ann. ?24-10C-4 (Michie 2000)(AED Req.'s for use) N.M. Stat. Ann. ? 24-10-3 (Michie 2000)(Gen. Stat) Provides immunity for rescuers Provided immunity for acquirers and enablers Encourages/requires nationally recognized courses on CPR & AED New York N.Y. Pub. Health Law ?3000-a(McKinney 2000)(AED User Immunity) N.Y. Pub. Health Law ?3000-b(McKinney 2000)(AED Def.) N.Y. Pub. Health Law ?3013 (McKinney 2000)(Gen. Stat.) Provides immunity for rescuers Provides immunity for acquirers and enablers Encourages/requires CPR & AED Training North Carolina N.C. Gen. Stat. ?90-21.14 (1975) Provides immunity for rescuers Provides immunity for acquirers and enablers Encourages/requires CPR & AED training North Dakota N.D. Cent. Code ?32-03 (1987) N.D. Cent. Code ?32-03-40(1999)(Emergency Treatment Immunity) Provides immunity for rescuers Provides immunity for acquirers and enablers Encourages/requires CPR & AED training Ohio Ohio Rev. Code Ann. ?2305.23 (1977) Ohio Rev. Code Ann. ?3701.85 (Anderson 2000)(Duty of AED Owner) Ohio Rev. Code Ann. ?4765.36 (Anderson 2000)(First Responder Def.) Ohio Rev. Code Ann. ?4765.37 (Anderson 2000)(EMT Def.) Ohio Rev. Code Ann. ?4765.49 (Anderson 2000)(Immunities) Provides immunity for rescuers Provides immunity for physician and trainer Encourages/requires CPR & AED but does not tie training to Immunity Oklahoma Okla. Stat. Tit. 76 ?5 (1979) Gen. Stat. Okla. Stat. Tit. 76 ?5A (2000)(AED User Immunity) Provides immunity for rescuers Encourages/requires CPR and AED training Oregon Or. Rev. Stat. ?30.801 (1999)(AED User Immunity) Or. Rev. Stat. ?30.800 (1999)(Emer. Assist. Immunity) Or. Rev. Stat. ?682.135 (1999)(Req. for License) Provides immunity for rescuers Provides immunity for acquirers, trainers and MDs. Encourages/requires course approved by Health Division of Dept. of Dept of Human Resources Pennsylvania PA. Cons. Stat. Ann. Tit. 42 ?8331 (1978)(Gen. Stat.)(Amended 2000 for AED user immunity) Provides immunity for Rescuers Does not provide immunity for acquirers and enablers Rhode Island R.I. Gen. Laws ?9-1-34 (2000)(AED User Immunity) RI Gen. Laws ?23.6.2.2 (2000)(Approving Placement of AED's) RI Gen. Laws ?23-6.2-1 (2000)(Decl. Of RI Policy on AED's) RI Gen. Laws ?9-1-27.1 (1953)(Gen. Stat.) Provides immunity for rescuers Provides immunity for acquirers and enablers (trainers and medical directors only) Encourages/requires CPR & AED training to AHA or ARC standards South Carolina S.C. Code Ann. ?44-76-10 (Law Co-op 2000)(AED Act) S.C. Code Ann. ?44-76-20 (Law Co-op 2000)(AED Def.) S.C. Code Ann. ?44-76-30 (Law Co-op 2000)(Training) S.C. Code Ann. ?44-76-40 (Law Co-op 2000)(User Immunity) S.C. Code Ann. ?44-76-50 (Law Co-op 2000)(Applicability of Act) S.C. Code Ann. ?15-1-310 (1962)(Gen. Stat) Provides immunity for rescuers Provides immunity for acquirers of AEDS and prescribing Physicians; no immunity for trainers Encourages/recommends AHA or ARC standards of training South Dakota S.D. Codified Laws ?20-9-3 (1968) S.D. Codified Laws ?20-9-4.3 (Michie 2000)(AED Def.) S.D. Codified Laws ?20-9-4.4 (Michie 2000)(AED User Immunity) S.D. Codified Laws ?20-9-4.6 (Michie 2000)(AED Trainer Immunity) S.D. Codified Laws ? 20-9-4.7 (Michie 2000)(Owner Notification Requirements) S.D. Codified Laws ?20-9-4.1 (Michie 2000)(Gen. Stat.) Provides immunity for rescuers Provides immunity for acquirers and enablers Encourages/requires CPR & AED training Tennessee Tenn. Code Ann. ?63-6-218 (1963) Tenn. Code Ann. ?68-140-701-68-140-710 (1999) Provides immunity for rescuers Provides immunity for acquirers and enablers Encourages/requires CPR & AED training Texas Tex. Health & Safety Code Ann. ?779.006 (West 2000)(AED immunity) Tex. Health & Safety Code Ann. ?779.001 (West 2000)(AED definition) Tex. Health & Safety Code Ann. ?779.002(West 2000)(AED training) Tex. Health & Safety Code Ann. ?779-003 (West 2000)(AED maintenance) Tex. Health & Safety Code Ann. ?779.004 (West 2000)(AED use) Tex. Health & Safety Code Ann. ?779.005 (West 2000)(Not. Reqs.) Tex. Health & Safety Code Ann. ?779-006 (West 2000)(Owner Reqs.) Tex. Civ. Prac. & Rem. Code Ann. ?74-74.001 (West 1977)(Liability Immunity) Tex. Civ. Prac. & Tem. Code Ann. ? 74.002 (West 2000)(Lic. Req.) Provides immunity only for trained users Provides immunity for acquirers and enablers Encourages/requires CPR and AED training approved by the Department of Health Utah Utah Code Ann. ?78-11-22 (1953) Utah Code Ann. ?58-31b-701 (1999)(AED User Immunity) Provides immunity for rescuers Provides immunity for healthcare providers providing instruction on use of AEDs Encourages/Requires CPR & AED training under AHA guidelines Vermont VT. Stat. Ann. Tit. 78 ?11-22(1977) Provides immunity for rescuers Virginia Va. Code Ann. ?8.01-225 (1967)(Gen. Stat.) Va. Code Ann. ?8.01-225.A.6 (Michie 1999)(AED User Indemnity) Provides immunity for rescuers Providers immunity for AED acquirers and enablers Encourages/requires CPR & AED training Washington Wash. Rev. Code ?70.136.070 (1987)(Gen. Stat.) Wash. Rev. Code ?70-54.310 (1999)(Immunity for AED User) Provides immunity for rescuers Provides immunity for acquirers of AEDs and enablers Encourages/requires CPR & AED training per AHA guidelines West Virginia W. Va. Code Ann. ?55-7-15 (1966)(Gen. Stat.) W. Va. Code ?16-4D-4 (1999)(AED User limitation on Liability) W.Va. Code ?16-4D-1 (1999)(Legis. Findings) W.Va. Code ?16-4D-2 (1999)(AED Def.) W.Va. Code ?16-4D3 (1999)(Early AED programs) W.Va. Code ?55-7-15 (1999)(Gen. Stat.) Provides immunity for rescuers Provides immunity for acquirers and enablers Encourages/requires training at CPR & AED training at AHA Standards Wisconsin Wis. Stat. ?895.48 (1977)(Limitations on liability) Wis. Stat. ?146.50 (2000)(AED Def.) Provides immunity for trained rescuers Provides immunity for providers, owner and trainers for AED device Encourages/requires training approved by Dept. of Health And Family Services Wyoming Wyo. Stat. Ann. ? 35-26-103 (Michie 2000)(AED Limited Liability) Wyo. Stat. Ann. ? 35-26-101 (Michie 2000)(AED Def.) Wyo. Stat. Ann. ? 35-26-102 (Michie 2000)(AED use) Wyo. Stat. Ann. ? 1-1-120 (1977)(Gen. Stat.) Wyo. Stat. Ann. ? 33-36-108 (Michie 2000)(Gen. Exemptions) Provides immunity for rescuers Provides immunity for acquires and enablers of AED Encourages/requires CPR & AED training ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Steven Santos Director, Simply Circus, Inc. Email: Steven [at] SimplyCircus.com Mail: PO BOX 620753 Newton, MA 02462 Phone: 781-799-4938 eFax: 309-214-0899 Web: www.SimplyCircus.com ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Brian Aldous Subject: Re: Avery Fisher Hall Lighting plot Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 22:45:22 -0500 Ah, well, as usual Herrick got there before me. Guess that's what I get for digesting. Must agree with him on the crew issue - very nice guys. The lighting is really, really limited (its a classical music concert hall!) but if you are friendly & polite Jack will give you some pointers on how to make good use of your limited stage time. You'll know you've done right with the crew if they ask you what you want when they call in their lunch take-out order. Have fun! BA Brian Aldous Lighting Design brian [at] tany.com On Jan 5, 2007, at 6:00 AM, Stagecraft wrote: > Bernie, > > I e-mailed you what I had off list. I just wanted to publicly say > that the > crew there is A+ top notch. Treat them well and you'll be taken > care of. > > -Herrick > > > On 1/4/07 9:21 AM, "Bernie Malaky" wrote: > >> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > stagecraft.theprices.net/> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> >> Does anyone have a lighting plot for Avery Fisher Hall at Lincoln >> Cener. >> Preferably, I'm looking for the House Lighting Plot(Ground and >> Section) but >> any Plot detailing the space would be greatly appreciated. I work >> with >> Vectorworks mostly, but any file type would be great. Thanks. >> -Bernie Malaky >> ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 22:46:51 -0500 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge At 10:11 PM -0500 1/5/07, Herrick Goldman wrote: >But anyway I always lose this argument to the luddites who refuse to change >so...fortunately my associate Susan has managed to figure out how to so >Plain text for you guys. We're obviously not Luddites, and calling us names won't win you any points. We merely choose to read a text-based form of communication in plain text. Why is that so hard for you to wrap your brain around? -- Dave Vick rigger [at] tds.net "No comment" is a comment. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 22:54:20 -0500 Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <16619153.1168055438010.JavaMail.root [at] m41> If the Shoe (or Sabot) fits: Definitions of Luddite on the Web: * [n. LUH-dite] The noun Luddite specifically refers to one of a group of early 19th century English workmen who were campaigning against the automation of the power loom. Under cover of night and generally masked, the workers often destroyed the equipment that had displaced them. Today the word broadly refers to anyone who is opposed to technological change or new working methods. The name Luddite is presumed to come from the leader of these angry workmen: Ned Ludd. ... On 1/5/07 10:46 PM, "Rigger" wrote: > We're obviously not Luddites, and calling us names won't win you any > points. We merely choose to read a text-based form of communication > in plain text. > > Why is that so hard for you to wrap your brain around? -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 23:00:18 -0500 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge At 10:32 PM -0500 1/5/07, Herrick Goldman wrote: >I do have a website Dave. And how dare you defend the old status quo and >quote RAH at the same time? Curmudgeon! And my curmudgeonhood is news to you exactly how? Heinlein's quotation about stupidity is very timely here. Insisting on a graphic form of communication to send text is... Well, stupid. >E-mail is a text medium, our art is not...imagine what we could communicate >with it (e-mail) if we weren't stuck in text. Oy vey's mir... No one's stopping you from turning the .jpg firehose loose on the internet, H! Post your artistic renderings on your website and post a plaintext pointer here, fergawdsake. Has it ever occured to anyone who advocates HTML-text that not everyone (for example: ME) wants to receive gigabytes of unsolicited HTML bullshit? If I'm not interested in 's "art," why should I be compelled to download it? PLAINTEXT, pal. It's what email is all about. Deal with it. Oh, and you might want to look up the definition of "Luddite" some time, before you call many more people that name. By definition, no one here is a Luddite, since we obviously use compters. -- Dave Vick rigger [at] tds.net Dammit, now you've made me cranky. ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 23:02:24 -0500 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge At 11:00 PM -0500 1/5/07, Rigger wrote: >Oh, and you might want to look up the definition of "Luddite" some >time, before you call many more people that name. By definition, no >one here is a Luddite, since we obviously use compters. If we were Luddites, we'd be writing to the list with pencil & paper. -DV ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 20:14:04 -0800 (PST) From: Al Fitch Subject: Re: Fatal fall at the opera In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <966315.33675.qm [at] web84014.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From the article: Part-time theatre director Emeric Lau, 28, commented: "The stairs at the exit can be steep and narrow but you can break your fall using the walls." — Somehow I don't think this is going to help the theatre in court. Thanks for finding this Richard. It's good info for directors who "need" to have the step lights out during performance blackouts. --- Richard Bakos wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > Fatal fall at the opera > > > > > > > Be Kind, Smile and Have Fun. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 23:25:36 -0500 Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <9719939.1168056339135.JavaMail.root [at] m41> Guys, BTW I sent a definition of Luddite ten minutes before your post. Our language is a living thing. The last time you looked up Luddite it meant what you think. Now it doesn't. Ah... The joys of etymology. E-mail is a living thing too. And you're in the past. You can elect to filter it any way you want. BTW I save all e-mails I receive on Noah's server and in the last (5 years, Is that how many Noah?) I've only received about 3gb of e-mail TOTAL; that includes spam from uncounted sources, Vectorworks, and photoshop files, as well as Powerpoint and other project related files. 3gb 5 years. Seriously are you on dialup? Just filter stuff the way you want it. (I've deleted some just recently to save space on the server) I think my long e-mail illustrated the potential to ENHANCE (not replace or make colors with) our e-mail communication. Dave, no I know you'll always be a curmudgeon it doesn't surprise me at all, I frequently enjoy it. Dave said: " PLAINTEXT, pal. It's what email is all about. Deal with it." no....no it's not.... A few better RAH quotes for you Dave: Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. Robert A. Heinlein A society that gets rid of all its troublemakers goes downhill. Robert A. Heinlein Don't handicap your children by making their lives easy. Robert A. Heinlein I never learned from a man who agreed with me. Robert A. Heinlein AND OF COURSE THE LIST'S Favorite: They didn't want it good, they wanted it Wednesday. Robert A. Heinlein On 1/5/07 11:02 PM, "Rigger" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > At 11:00 PM -0500 1/5/07, Rigger wrote: > >> Oh, and you might want to look up the definition of "Luddite" some >> time, before you call many more people that name. By definition, no >> one here is a Luddite, since we obviously use compters. > > If we were Luddites, we'd be writing to the list with pencil & paper. > > -DV > -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 23:28:18 -0500 Subject: FW: Herrick's pledge From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: This hasn't appeared yet....maybe I had some hidden HTML. ------ Forwarded Message From: Herrick Goldman Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 22:54:20 -0500 To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge If the Shoe (or Sabot) fits: Definitions of Luddite on the Web: * [n. LUH-dite] The noun Luddite specifically refers to one of a group of early 19th century English workmen who were campaigning against the automation of the power loom. Under cover of night and generally masked, the workers often destroyed the equipment that had displaced them. Today the word broadly refers to anyone who is opposed to technological change or new working methods. The name Luddite is presumed to come from the leader of these angry workmen: Ned Ludd. ... ------ End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------ Message-ID: <29129.69.59.200.119.1168058695.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 20:44:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge From: "Bill Nelson" > No one's stopping you from turning the .jpg firehose loose on the > internet, H! Post your artistic renderings on your website and post > a plaintext pointer here, fergawdsake. Has it ever occured to anyone > who advocates HTML-text that not everyone (for example: ME) wants to > receive gigabytes of unsolicited HTML bullshit? If I'm not > interested in 's "art," why should I be compelled > to download it? > > PLAINTEXT, pal. It's what email is all about. Deal with it. I agree with Dave. For one thing, I am on dial-up, and will be for the foreseeable future. I do not appreciate large email messages. Put the html, etc in an attachment - or post a link to a hosting site. Additionally, I limit my email to "plain text only". It does its best to convert HTML to plain text, but the result is hard to read and filled with garbage formatting statements. By allowing only plain text, I do not have to worry about nasty stuff in the email message body. By not opening attachments, it pretty much makes my computer immune to emailed malware. Bill ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 23:45:57 -0500 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge At 11:25 PM -0500 1/5/07, Herrick Goldman wrote: >E-mail is a living thing too. And you're in the past. Listen; no offense, but that's the dumbest thing I've heard here since I began kill-filing Frank Wood. > You can elect to filter it any way you want. ...And I have. No HTML gets seen here; that's what the browser is for. So if you send it in email and I don't see it, too bad. I hope what you sent wasn't life-critical, but if you wanted it read by everyone, perhaps you'd like to send it in a common format. >BTW I save all e-mails I receive on Noah's >server and in the last (5 years, Is that how many Noah?) I've only received >about 3gb of e-mail TOTAL; that includes spam from uncounted sources, >Vectorworks, and photoshop files, as well as Powerpoint and other project >related files. 3gb 5 years. Seriously are you on dialup? Just filter stuff >the way you want it. (I've deleted some just recently to save space on the >server) No, I'm not on dialup, but that's irrelevant. And the reason you've only gotten 3Gb of mail is because *most* of us are considerate enough not to clog up the server with HTML crap. If we all posted in HTML as you advocate, I imagine we'd double that. Right; I'm done with this. -- Dave Vick rigger [at] tds.net 20/20 Design Never wrestle a pig. You both get dirty, and the pig likes it. ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 23:51:53 -0500 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge At 8:44 PM -0800 1/5/07, Bill Nelson wrote: >Additionally, I limit my email to "plain text only". It does its best to >convert HTML to plain text, but the result is hard to read and filled with >garbage formatting statements. By allowing only plain text, I do not have >to worry about nasty stuff in the email message body. By not opening >attachments, it pretty much makes my computer immune to emailed malware. My last word: Among other things I do out in the Real World, I help moderate a Freemasonry-related Usenet newsgroup. It has long been an established policy all over Usenet to post in plaintext only for exactly the reasons Bill describes above - it's simple common courtesy. I've yet to be convinced that these courtesies don't apply to email, both public and private. OK, *now* I'm done. -- Dave Vick rigger [at] tds.net What exactly is "viewer discretion"? If viewers had any discretion, most TV shows wouldn't be on the air. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 23:57:17 -0500 Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <10201233.1168059225488.JavaMail.root [at] m41> >On 1/5/07 11:51 PM, "Rigger" wrote: > > OK, *now* I'm done. COOL! I win I win I win!!! You're not done you just don't want to debate anymore. That's ok we still love ya. You can still do it your way and be as right as you want to be about it. PS...You'll notice I don't post to the list in HTML...I just think it's a useful tool. -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 00:11:30 -0500 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge At 11:57 PM -0500 1/5/07, Herrick Goldman wrote: >> OK, *now* I'm done. > > COOL! I win I win I win!!! No, you don't. > You're not done you just don't want to debate anymore. All this is doing is making me cranky[1], and we don't want that, now do we. [1] Okay, crankIER. -- Dave Vick rigger [at] tds.net Anytime you hear businessmen debating "which policy is better for America", don't bend over. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3707857.1168060521243.JavaMail.? [at] fh121.dia.he.tucows.com> Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 05:15:21 +0000 (UTC) From: "paul.guncheon [at] hawaiiantel.net" Reply-To: "paul.guncheon [at] hawaiiantel.net" Subject: Re: Undergraduate Info <> Aloha, There are those of us for whom college had nothing to do with that decision. Laters, Paul "If I can stop loafing around and cobble something together, I'll be a shoe-in" said Tom at last... soulfully. ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Herrick's pledge Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 00:24:46 -0500 Message-ID: <01ff01c73152$fac19b60$6501a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > If we were Luddites, we'd be writing to the list with pencil & paper. I'll give up my quill pen when they pry it out of my cold, dead fingers. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <459F32B6.5060402 [at] fieldmousepro.com> Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 23:25:10 -0600 From: Stephen Lee Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge References: In-Reply-To: Herrick Goldman wrote: > Seriously are you on dialup? Actually, yes. At home I've got high-speed, but while traveling it's usually dialup or cellular modem (with varying connection speeds), depending on what's available. Giving a link to a website or blog (rather than imbedding images or using attachments) allows me to view at my discretion. For what it's worth, I actually *like* reading e-mail in plain-text. I find the simplicity quite refreshing. -- Stephen Lee Fieldmouse Productions Nashville, TN Today's location: Nashville, TN ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 00:29:18 -0500 From: "Kurt Cypher" Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge In-Reply-To: References: In regards to sending pictures via email, while I agree that, in theory, sending people pictures over the internet can be a wonderful use for email, unfortunately in the real world, email isn't the best method of transporting files. My "day job" that pays for my community theater habit is as a systems administrator for a University, including administering an email server. One of the problems we see fairly regularly concerning sending/receiving pictures (and other attachments) is users getting pushed over their INBOX quota, which causes them to stop receiving any email until they clean some space out, not to mention problems with aggressive attachment blocking, virus checkers blocking HTML and simple bandwidth issues for users checking their email via dialup. Dave mentioned that it's "long been an established policy all over Usenet to post in plaintext only," and since he brought it up, I'll use that as a segue to quote from the Stagecraft List's "Do's & Don'ts" list of posting guidelines (http://stagecraft.theprices.net/info.html#dodont): # Send all posts in plain, unadorned, 7-bit ASCII text, without special characters, formatting or attachments. MIME attachments are a particular problem for the server software, and may cause the server to reject your post. ... # Don't use special formatting (rich text, HTML and the like). It may make your message difficult or impossible for others to read. ... Now, since this discussion has veered seriously off the topic of stagecraft, I'm going to attempt to refrain from responding again (we'll see if I succeed). ------------------------------ Message-ID: <17050133.1168061804297.JavaMail.? [at] fh121.dia.he.tucows.com> Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 05:36:44 +0000 (UTC) From: "paul.guncheon [at] hawaiiantel.net" Reply-To: "paul.guncheon [at] hawaiiantel.net" Subject: Re: realistic dock planking Certainly the best way to do this is with found, aged, and weathered materials... 2x stock probably being what will work. Random widths will help. Not sure if you need to be that concerned with the weight unless you have to move the thing around for the show. Making this light weight will be expensive and more time consuming. In the event one has to use new materials, try and get rough sawn... although "rough" is not the way real dock boards actually weather, it will look right to the eye. Should you have to age the boards, there are a number of techniques I have used: Sandblasting - truck the stuff to your neighborhood sandblaster. (If there is a sandblaster that operates in your neighborhood, I'm sorry.) This technique looks the best but can be expensive. Painting is easy as a series of washes will do nicely with the texture. Rough the boards up by hand - Okay... not exactly by hand, I use power tools. A Sawzall with a 12" rough cut blade played perendicular (sort of) to the grain will give a nice texture. So will running a Skilsaw the sme way. (Okay... be careful.) There is a diamond "sanding" cup which fits a 4" grinder that's bitchin'. Wire brushes on drill motors work well on the end grain. Ragged cutting the ends and staggering the lengths of the boards also is a good thing. When painting, think "staining" (washes) rather than "painting" (opaque coats). I have aged raw wood by spraying it with a saturated solution off iron sulphate. This turns the wood gray and rusts any exposed fasteners. Hope this is of some help. Laters, Paul "The stagecraft thing is down again" said Tom listlessly. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <459F4A25.6030800 [at] fieldmousepro.com> Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 01:05:09 -0600 From: Stephen Lee Subject: If you are interested in CPR... References: In-Reply-To: If you are interested in CPR... ...then this might interest you: http://www.fieldmousepro.com/cpr/cpr_talk_low.mp3 (audio of presentation: low bandwidth MP3, 1hr-14min, 13MB) http://www.fieldmousepro.com/cpr/cpr_talk_high.mp3 (audio of presentation: high bandwidth MP3, 1hr-14min, 40MB) http://www.fieldmousepro.com/cpr/cpr_presentation.pdf (powerpoint-PDF of presentation: PDF, 4MB) I've been doing a lot of corporate gigs lately, and most of them have been with a company that does medical-update conferences. These involve specialist docs giving lectures to other docs on the newest research, treatments, and drugs (no, they don't give out samples). This particular presentation was given by the Director of Research at the Pacific Heart Institute to a room full of cardiologists. While some of the abbreviations & a few of the 23-syllable words went over my head, the points were easy to understand & quite interesting (at least to me). This also helped explain the revisions to the CPR guidelines published by the American Heart Association. Here's a PDF with the revisions: http://tinyurl.com/za5jx The video that was played as part of the presentation contained ultrasound footage of patient's hearts during various CPR attempts. It was fascinating to watch. Unfortunately, I didn't get a copy of that file. :( And no, I didn't choose the music. -- Stephen Lee Fieldmouse Productions Nashville, TN Today's location: Nashville, TN ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 01:46:50 -0600 From: "Tim Catlett" Subject: Re: Any Undergraduate Theater Information Appreciated! In-Reply-To: References: Welcome to the community Jenny, All of Steve's comments are spot on with regard to the schools and organizations that can help you in making your decisions for future training. Now, I am going to give you the best piece of advice that I can. RUN AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ...unless you really want to do this, in which case my better, and less tongue-in-cheek, piece of advice is: Work at all times to create a name for yourself. This industry thrives on the quality of an individual's reputation. You should create and protect that reputation with a great deal of intensity. The industry can be fickle but your name and reputation will keep you above that fickleness. Make good and solid contacts, learn everything you can from everyone you meet, work hard, be dependable. Do these things and the industry will be relatively kind to you. Also, you have already made an important step in creating a name for yourself. You have made contact with a group of people who are, despite their own fickleness at times, some of the best minds and people in theatre and entertainment. Use all of us to your advantage and ask any and all questions that come up in the next few years. It is almost a guarantee that you will receive more answers than you can handle. As to the question of how I decided to enter the theatre world...I'm not sure. I started doing work at a young age and it always sort of stuck in one form or another. I think the key to my decision is that I sold my soul to it long ago and I've been keeping up my end of the bargain for better or worse ever since. I've been teaching secondary education theatre for the last ten years along with the professional work that I have time for. I always try to chase away all but the most devoted of students because this life is not easy but it is rewarding. It takes a special type of insanity to stick with it for very long and I'm sure that you will be afflicted just as many of us were. You are already exhibiting signs of it. I think that for most people, the entertainment industry is an escape from the cubicle of modern life. You are virtually guaranteed to have continually renewing experiences that are new and different regardless of your position in the industry. That is especially appealing to those of us who have problems playing well with others, so we found other people who aren't good at playing well with others and we work with them. So, with all that said, again, welcome to the world and good luck in all that you do. -- Tim Catlett Asst. Technical Director - Shorewood High School Drama Technical Director - Milwaukee Shakespeare Director of Outreach/Membership - ISETSA (International Secondary Education Theatre Health & Safety Association) Cell: 414.975.4424 EMAIL: catlett.lizardsdream [at] gmail.com On 1/5/07, Jenny Yi wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hello, my name is Jenny Yi and I am currently a junior at Iolani > School in Honolulu, Hawaii. I've long been interested in the technical > and management side of theatre and was wondering if anyone had any > information or brochures or advice that may help me? > > I also have a few questions about the undergraduate program itself and > its connection with the graduate program. I'm looking for a school > that will allow me to pursue 'stage management' independently if there > is no program while also allowing me to learn scene, costume, > lighting, and sound design. In particular, I'd much prefer a school > whose undergraduate program was independent or separate from its > graduate program. > > I also want to ask those in the profession now how they decided > theatre was where they wanted to work and roughly when they knew or > decided that. Was it at the start of college or after taking a few > classes? > > -- > With much aloha, > Jenny Yi ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Occy" References: Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 01:57:05 -0800 Don't raise your voice at me! My system responds in what ever format it was sent to me in. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herrick Goldman" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 7:11 PM Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Folks it can't be that hard. I get the single e-mail version but I read > much > of my e-mail on my cell phone and it deals just fine. It doesn't translate > the HTML it just makes it plain text. For instance Susan's first e-mails > came thru just fine on my phone. If my little widget can do it why can't > your super computers? > > Ther aren't millions of us and I bet the majority can read HTML just fine. > But anyway I always lose this argument to the luddites who refuse to > change > so...fortunately my associate Susan has managed to figure out how to so > Plain text for you guys. > > BTW I'm in the process of teaching my dad how to use Sirius Satellite > Radio, > The Met broadcasts on channel 85, and he has to activate it and then > figure > out how to hook it up to his 1964 Kenwood receiver/amp. It's a very > similar > conversation to this one. > > -Herrick > > > On 1/5/07 9:52 PM, "Jerry Durand" wrote: > > > > > > Still doesn't mean the list should forward all that to the millions > > of readers of Stagecraft. Now, if there was only a sanitizer for > > HTML that would toss out the trouble-causing bits and keep the good > > bits. > > > > There's also the people (not me) who use mail readers that are > > incapable of reading HTML. > > > > HTML doesn't play well with digests, either. If one person calls for > > a green background and the next calls for blue and the next white and > > the next plaid, what background is your mail reader supposed to use? > > > > > > > > -- > Herrick Goldman > Lighting Designer, NYC > www.HGLightingDesign.com > 917-797-3624 > "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in > light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS > > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Occy" References: Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 02:02:27 -0800 And who are you calling a Luddite? Them are fighting words! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herrick Goldman" > --------------------------------------------------- > > Dave, Kurt, Jerry, and other Luddites, > > > I do have a website Dave. And how dare you defend the old status quo and > quote RAH at the same time? Curmudgeon! > > E-mail is a text medium, our art is not...imagine what we could > communicate > with it (e-mail) if we weren't stuck in text. For instance I could show > you > the full moonrise I photographed over The Sangre De Christos the other > night. The moon was uplighting the clouds (silver and black) over Taos > and > then it just "popped" up in the space of about 2 minutes. Totally > incredible > and No director would believe it if I did it that quickly onstage. But > Alas > I'll have to e-mail those photos to people who can accept files. ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Occy" References: Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 02:22:01 -0800 Hey Dave, remember those trucks with those 48 to 53 foot trailers that had red targets on the sides and on the doors? Never known any of my riggers or electricians to pull them about or even try too. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rigger" > --------------------------------------------------- > We're obviously not Luddites, and calling us names won't win you any > points. We merely choose to read a text-based form of communication > in plain text. > > Why is that so hard for you to wrap your brain around? > > -- > Dave Vick > rigger [at] tds.net > > "No comment" is a comment. > ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Occy" References: Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 02:31:43 -0800 Bill that's great to hear that your going to dial up for a while! Your going to ruin my laugh factor here. Your 1st now to speak on anything weather you it or not... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Nelson" > --------------------------------------------------- > For one thing, I am on dial-up, and will be for the foreseeable future. I > do not appreciate large email messages. Put the html, etc in an attachment > - or post a link to a hosting site. > > Additionally, I limit my email to "plain text only". It does its best to > convert HTML to plain text, but the result is hard to read and filled with > garbage formatting statements. By allowing only plain text, I do not have > to worry about nasty stuff in the email message body. By not opening > attachments, it pretty much makes my computer immune to emailed malware. > > Bill > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Occy" Cc: stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com References: Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 02:34:47 -0800 Are you sure they aren't dead? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" > --------------------------------------------------- > > > If we were Luddites, we'd be writing to the list with pencil & paper. > > I'll give up my quill pen when they pry it out of my cold, dead fingers. > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Occy" References: Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 02:45:39 -0800 When traveling we are in the same boat as for a connect to the internet me I spend the $5-10 a day for the "high speed" even WiFi. As I a have found out even in the best places the dialup costs you more as they start doing minute charges when on the phone. Just trade a few cad drawings when in the shower or the tub.......... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Lee" > --------------------------------------------------- > > Herrick Goldman wrote: > > Seriously are you on dialup? > > Actually, yes. > At home I've got high-speed, but while traveling it's usually dialup or > cellular modem (with varying connection speeds), depending on what's > available. > > Giving a link to a website or blog (rather than imbedding images or > using attachments) allows me to view at my discretion. > > For what it's worth, I actually *like* reading e-mail in plain-text. I > find the simplicity quite refreshing. > > -- > Stephen Lee > Fieldmouse Productions > Nashville, TN > > Today's location: > Nashville, TN > > ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #1077 ******************************