Return-Path: X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 40922265; Sun, 07 Jan 2007 03:02:12 -0800 X-List-Processed: mail.prxy.net X-ListMember: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 40921746; Sun, 07 Jan 2007 03:01:20 -0800 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ADVANCE_FEE_1,AWL, NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS,SUBJ_HAS_UNIQ_ID autolearn=ham version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on localhost X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: List-Archive: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #1078 Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 03:00:45 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #1078 1. Re: Herrick's pledge by Rigger 2. Re: Any Undergraduate Theater Information Appreciated! by "Fred Schoening, Jr." 3. Re: Any Undergraduate Theater Information Appreciated! by Stephen Litterst 4. Re: Herrick's pledge by Herrick Goldman 5. Re: Any Undergraduate Theater Information Appreciated! by "Tim Catlett" 6. Re: Herrick's pledge by Bruce Purdy 7. Re: OT: First-aid & liability by Dale farmer 8. Re: If you are interested in CPR... by "Bill Nelson" 9. Re: Herrick's pledge by "Bill Nelson" 10. Re: realistic dock planking by Stephen Rees 11. Re: If you are interested in CPR... by "Steven Santos" 12. Re: Herrick's pledge by "Bill Nelson" 13. Re: Herrick's pledge by Rigger 14. Re: realistic dock planking by Rigger 15. Re: Herrick's pledge by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 16. little things that can kill the list by b Ricie 17. Re: new ideas for the stage tech olympics... by CB 18. Re: Herrick's pledge by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 19. Re: Sound Specs by CB 20. Re: Any Undergraduate Theater Information Appreciated! by "Fred Schoening, Jr." 21. Re: Herrick's pledge by CB 22. Re: OT: First-aid & liability by CB 23. Re: OT: First-aid & liability by CB 24. Re: Any Undergraduate Theater Information Appreciated! by "Tim Catlett" 25. Re: Sound Specs by Jerry Durand 26. Re: If you are interested in CPR... by Stephen Lee 27. Re: Herrick's pledge by CB 28. Re: Herrick's pledge by Jerry Durand 29. Re: Any Undergraduate Theater Information Appreciated! by "Jenny Yi" 30. Re: Herrick's pledge by Herrick Goldman 31. Re: new ideas for the stage tech olympics... by Rigger 32. Re: Herrick's pledge by CB 33. Re: If you are interested in CPR... by "Steven Santos" 34. Re: Herrick's pledge by "Occy" 35. PQ 2007 by "Reed Brian" 36. Re: Herrick's pledge by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 37. Re: Herrick's pledge by Jerry Durand 38. Re: Herrick's pledge by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 39. Smelly rooms? by Jerry Durand 40. Why no HTML? (was Re: Herrick's pledge) by Noah Price 41. Re: Herrick's pledge by Bruce Purdy 42. Re: little things that can kill the list by Clive Mitchell 43. Re: OT: First-aid & liability by Clive Mitchell 44. Re: new ideas for the stage tech olympics... by Clive Mitchell 45. Re: OT: First-aid & liability by "Steven Santos" 46. Re: Smelly rooms? by Stephen Lee 47. Re: Smelly rooms? by MissWisc [at] aol.com 48. Re: Herrick's pledge by "Bill Nelson" 49. Re: Herrick's pledge by Rigger 50. Re: Herrick's pledge by "Bill Nelson" 51. Re: Sound Specs by "Bill Nelson" 52. Re: Any Undergraduate Theater Information Appreciated! by Brian James 53. Re: OT: First-aid & liability by "RD" 54. Re: OT: First-aid & liability by "Bill Nelson" 55. Re: Any Undergraduate Theater Information Appreciated! by carolyntsutsui [at] hawaii.rr.com *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 07:48:37 -0500 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge At 2:22 AM -0800 1/6/07, Occy wrote: >Hey Dave, remember those trucks with those 48 to 53 foot trailers that had >red targets on the sides and on the doors? Never known any of my riggers or >electricians to pull them about or even try too. And your point would be.....??? -- Dave Vick rigger [at] tds.net The only good thing to come out of Religion was the music. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <28640054.1168093667985.JavaMail.root [at] mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 08:27:47 -0600 (GMT-06:00) From: "Fred Schoening, Jr." Reply-To: "Fred Schoening, Jr." Subject: Re: Any Undergraduate Theater Information Appreciated! Sorry, but I have to disagree with one minor point here: theatre is ALL ABOUT playing well with others. The shows that my crew and peers and I get the most tired and stressed out and frustrated on are the ones where people aren't communicating well or cooperating. (Fortunately I hardly ever run into situations where people aren't being cooperative.) Theatre 101, 8:00 am, day 1: "Theatre is a Collaborative Art." I will agree that most of us don't tend to think in the same ways as your average corporate drone. We're creative. We're artistic. We not only think outside the box, we often aren't aware of the existence of the alleged box. 'Success' to us has an entirely different meaning. We also happen to be a fairly well educated group - sometimes a bit overeducated, it seems. ;) On the whole we also tend to be pretty tolerant of different things and people. It's sometimes easy to forget that a lot of the world isn't like that. I think it's things like that which attract us to theatre, not an inability to work with each other. "Big Fred" Schoening Technical Director, Dallas Theater Center Dallas, Texas, USA -----Original Message----- That is especially appealing to >those of us who have problems playing well with others, so we found >other people who aren't good at playing well with others and we work >with them. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <459FB6A2.7000808 [at] gmail.com> Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 09:48:02 -0500 From: Stephen Litterst Organization: University of Delaware Subject: Re: Any Undergraduate Theater Information Appreciated! References: In-Reply-To: Jenny Yi wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hello, my name is Jenny Yi and I am currently a junior at Iolani > School in Honolulu, Hawaii. I've long been interested in the technical > and management side of theatre and was wondering if anyone had any > information or brochures or advice that may help me? Jenny, One of the most important questions to ask any grad/undergrad department is what role the undergraduate students play in the production process. I have seen schools where the undergrad students don't advance beyond being push-the-box crew members, and I've seen schools where a talented undergrad is able to work side-by-side as a crew chief with the graduate students. The more experience you get as a student, the easier it will be to get work after graduation. Be open to schools without graduate programs. Do their students get admitted to grad programs if they want it? What is the faculty opinion on the MFA degree -- necessary or not? Another thing to look at is alumni placement immediately following graduation. Sure, the Tony-nominated designer who graduated in the 70s is impressive, but what are graduates doing in their first 5 years out of school? While it's too early for you to know what you'll want to do, look for a diverse job placement so you'll know you have options. Talk to current students. See if the college will put you in touch with recent alumni (who may be more likely to be honest about their experiences). Things that students may complain about could turn out better in the long run, and alumni may see the big picture on such things. Chat up the freshmen and sophomores -- how was the adjustment process for them? Did the program understand the adjustment to college or ignore it? Check out my former employer at http://departments.ithaca.edu/theatre/ Regarding how I decided to do this -- I was active in theatre all my life until college, when I decided I needed to pursue a "real" career. Majoring in psychology and then history didn't work out so well. I then noticed a theatre major on campus, talked to some grad students and found out that theatre could be a real career. So in my junior year, I changed majors, stuck around for an extra year to bulk up my resume and haven't looked back since. It's one of the most diverse, rewarding careers I've seen -- there are so many sides to the entertainment industry that it's hard to get bored. Steve L. -- Stephen Litterst Technical Operations Supervisor litterst [at] udel.edu Center for the Arts 302/831-0601 University of Delaware ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 09:53:15 -0500 Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20972079.1168061571250.JavaMail.root [at] m41> Kurt, You've missed the point of the debate. You seem to think I use HTML in my posts and you are scolding me. I was bringing it up because a newbie accidentally sent HTML and got spanked. I was stating the opinion that if we could use HTML and or attach a small file it would help us communicate better. Rigger disagrees. That's fine he does that. Don't quote to me the rules that I already follow. I'm trying to get us thinking about changing the rules. I know Charlie R. agrees. Obviously the rest of you feel differently. You guys on dialup I'm truly sorry. Is that still 56k? I haven't checked in awhile. There is a setting on all your e-mails to leave files and big e-mails on your server and only download parts of messages. (usually 100k will suffice for your written message) As I've stated, I use my cell phone to do a bunch of e-mail and I'm sure it's faster than that and it even reads word documents and strips html. To borrow from Al Gore... If the Stagecraft list is a highway for communication 90% of us are driving Porsches and can go at 150mph while a few of you are in ancient slower vehicles and you are the cops handing out tickets. It's all good so long as it works. Rigger you can go uncrank yourself...it was a fun debate. I dunno why you get cranky when we just exchange ideas. Have a nice day. :) On 1/6/07 12:29 AM, "Kurt Cypher" wrote: > Dave mentioned that it's "long been an established policy all over > Usenet to post in plaintext only," and since he brought it up, I'll > use that as a segue to quote from the Stagecraft List's "Do's & > Don'ts" list of posting guidelines > (http://stagecraft.theprices.net/info.html#dodont): > > # Send all posts in plain, unadorned, 7-bit ASCII text, without > special characters, formatting or attachments. MIME attachments are a > particular problem for the server software, and may cause the server > to reject your post. > ... > # Don't use special formatting (rich text, HTML and the like). It may > make your message difficult or impossible for others to read. ... > > Now, since this discussion has veered seriously off the topic of > stagecraft, I'm going to attempt to refrain from responding again > (we'll see if I succeed). > -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 09:08:05 -0600 From: "Tim Catlett" Cc: bigfred [at] mindspring.com (Fred Schoening, Jr.) Subject: Re: Any Undergraduate Theater Information Appreciated! In-Reply-To: References: I was kidding Fred. I am quite aware that theatre is "ALL ABOUT" playing well with others or why else would I discuss the importance of name and reputation as the single best piece of advice I could give a person who is getting ready to enter our industry? Jenny, Fred is certainly correct and please excuse me if you misunderstood my humor as he did. -- Tim Catlett Asst. Technical Director - Shorewood High School Drama Technical Director - Milwaukee Shakespeare Director of Outreach/Membership - ISETSA (International Secondary Education Theatre Health & Safety Association) Cell: 414.975.4424 EMAIL: catlett.lizardsdream [at] gmail.com On 1/6/07, Fred Schoening, Jr. wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Sorry, but I have to disagree with one minor point here: theatre is ALL > ABOUT playing well with others. The shows that my crew and peers and > I get the most tired and stressed out and frustrated on are the ones > where people aren't communicating well or cooperating. (Fortunately I > hardly ever run into situations where people aren't being cooperative.) > > Theatre 101, 8:00 am, day 1: "Theatre is a Collaborative Art." > > I will agree that most of us don't tend to think in the same ways as > your average corporate drone. We're creative. We're artistic. We not > only think outside the box, we often aren't aware of the existence of > the alleged box. 'Success' to us has an entirely different meaning. We > also happen to be a fairly well educated group - sometimes a bit > overeducated, it seems. ;) On the whole we also tend to be pretty > tolerant of different things and people. It's sometimes easy to forget > that a lot of the world isn't like that. > > I think it's things like that which attract us to theatre, not an inability > to work with each other. > > "Big Fred" Schoening > Technical Director, Dallas Theater Center > Dallas, Texas, USA ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <95C7B404-2028-4A88-8C80-3782704B8E74 [at] rochester.rr.com> From: Bruce Purdy Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 10:08:26 -0500 On 6 Jan 2007, at 09:53, Herrick Goldman wrote: > To borrow from Al Gore... If the Stagecraft list is a highway for > communication 90% of us are driving Porsches and can go at 150mph > while a > few of you are in ancient slower vehicles and you are the cops > handing out > tickets. It's all good so long as it works. Just to keep things in perspective, according to http://www.websiteoptimization.com/bw/0603/ "US broadband penetration grew to 68% in February 2006. Narrowband users (56Kbps or less) now comprise 32% of active Internet users, down 1.33 percentage points from 33.33% in January" Yes, Broadband is now in the majority, but it is NOT 90%. Almost one third of internet users are still on dial-up. Bruce ____________________ Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Message-ID: <459FBD94.9080202 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 10:17:40 -0500 From: Dale farmer Subject: Re: OT: First-aid & liability References:

In-Reply-To: Clive Mitchell wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > In message , RD writes >> I do recall the admonition of one of my clients, a Golf Country Club, >> posted. If someone has a heart attack on the green, beat them in the >> chest with a golf club to start the heart. The word mayhem was not >> used. Better than pissing on someone who has had a bad burn .... I >> think. Another >> admonition of the long ago past. > > I've always wondered whether a blow to the chest could compress the > heart enough into a state where it might stand a chance of > resynchronisation. It would definitely be a last resort action though. > Yes, it can. This was part of the precursors to CPR, like 40+ years ago. They called it the precordial thump. (I probably spelled that wrong) It had a rather low success rate, but in those days before electrical defibrillation was invented, it was what we had. Not at all recommended practice nowadays. I recall reading an article by the fellow who invented the defibrillator. The first actual patient they used it on, they left with a matching pair of rather severe burns, and also injured the doctor and nurses who were administering the shock. You see, they were using gauze pads soaked in salt water to reduce the skin resistance. Can you say steam burns? The next patient, they used an electrode paste. It flashed into flame, as the paste included alcohol as a component. Whoops. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1403.205.215.253.43.1168098524.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 07:48:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: If you are interested in CPR... From: "Bill Nelson" > http://www.fieldmousepro.com/cpr/cpr_presentation.pdf > (powerpoint-PDF of presentation: PDF, 4MB) Interesting reading. I noticed they also addressed snake bite. The new protocol is what was being recommended by the US Air Force way back in the mid 60s, except possibly for coral snake bites. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1409.205.215.253.43.1168098782.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 07:53:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge From: "Bill Nelson" > Yes, Broadband is now in the majority, but it is NOT 90%. Almost one > third of internet users are still on dial-up. And, in small cities, towns and rural areas - the percentage of dial-up accounts is even higher - often 100%. Bill ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 10:59:24 -0500 Subject: Re: realistic dock planking From: Stephen Rees Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Perhaps just double the thickness of the plywood at the ends of the planks where they would logically overhang the support structure. Ignore thickening the area between the supports. Steve Rees, TD SUNY-Fredonia On 1/5/07 11:16 AM, "Storms, Randy" wrote: > > > Does anyone have a suggestion for how to accomplish this realistically? > > Many thanks in advance, ------------------------------ From: "Steven Santos" Subject: RE: If you are interested in CPR... Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 11:54:53 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: 3 person CPR (which is what is being recomended) has been around for a long time (I learned about it in the first advanced first aid class I took when I was 14). It is not part of the current standard because it was deemed to difficult to teach effectivly, but I agree with everything in the PDf presentation. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Steven Santos Director, Simply Circus, Inc. Email: Steven [at] SimplyCircus.com Mail: PO BOX 620753 Newton, MA 02462 Phone: 781-799-4938 eFax: 309-214-0899 Web: www.SimplyCircus.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Bill > Nelson > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 10:49 AM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Re: If you are interested in CPR... > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > http://www.fieldmousepro.com/cpr/cpr_presentation.pdf > > (powerpoint-PDF of presentation: PDF, 4MB) > > Interesting reading. > > I noticed they also addressed snake bite. The new protocol is what was > being recommended by the US Air Force way back in the mid 60s, except > possibly for coral snake bites. > > Bill > > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1552.205.215.253.43.1168103577.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20972079.1168061571250.JavaMail.root [at] m41> Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 09:12:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge From: "Bill Nelson" > You guys on dialup I'm truly sorry. Is that still 56k? I haven't checked > in awhile. There is a setting on all your e-mails to leave files and big > e-mails on your server and only download parts of messages. (usually 100k > will suffice for your written message) As I've stated, I use my cell phone > to do a bunch of e-mail and I'm sure it's faster than that and it even > reads word documents and strips html. On a good day, I get 28.8k. My email software allows me to just open the body of the message and not open attachments. I can also delete messages without downloading them, based on the sender or the message title. But it only does so in plain text, as that is how I have set the configuration. As I mentioned before, I did this to avoid all the malware that is sent out. I am too far from the CO to get DSL and cable modem is not an option. No cable. I have been able to get by with the slow service, so have not investigated a satellite service. Bill ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 12:33:23 -0500 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge At 9:53 AM -0500 1/6/07, Herrick Goldman wrote: >Rigger you can go uncrank yourself...it was a fun debate. I dunno why you >get cranky when we just exchange ideas. Because it's my... My... Umm.... (idiom, sir?) IDIOM!! -- Dave Vick rigger [at] tds.net Since 1983, more than 30 people have been killed in Post Offices. Ya wanna know why? Because the price of postage keeps changing. ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 12:36:17 -0500 From: Rigger Subject: Re: realistic dock planking On 1/5/07 11:16 AM, "Storms, Randy" wrote: > Does anyone have a suggestion for how to accomplish this realistically? > Many thanks in advance, What about using weathered planking as a skin over a skeleton of steel scaffolding? Probably not an option, but I toss it out there as a possibility... -- Dave Vick rigger [at] tds.net The reason they call it "The American Dream" is because you have to be asleep to believe in it. ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 13:36:56 EST Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge In a message dated 06/01/07 04:45:26 GMT Standard Time, billn [at] peak.org writes: > I agree with Dave. > > For one thing, I am on dial-up, and will be for the foreseeable future. I > do not appreciate large email messages. Put the html, etc in an attachment > - or post a link to a hosting site. If you try to post mail on this list with attachments, the list server will bounce them. I have been caught by that one. Some versions of AOL (6 to 8) send their mail as a two-part MIME message, with an HTML file attached. It is very frustrating to be able to read the list, but not post to it. I hope my problems will soon be over. We now have a broadband connection, so I shall soon appear on the list with a new address. That is if the new computer I have coming on Monday will handle the wireless network we have set up. Meanwhile, I shall plug away with AOL 5.0 and dial-up. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 10:37:09 -0800 (PST) From: b Ricie Subject: little things that can kill the list In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <89296.76688.qm [at] web50612.mail.yahoo.com> >>What a sad and sorry state this new year finds us in, here on the Stagecraft list.<< Give em a break. Yes, it is a new year, but just barely. Please step beyond your comfortable intellectual threshold and learn how to use the delete button. When I see trash on the TV (just about all of it) I change the channel or turn the thing off. I don't toss the TV to the curb, I keep it as it is still a useful tool and will come in handy again. I also understand that there is about tendymillion other hard workin people out there that enjoy the trash the TV is offering. Perhaps they use the tube to help them escape their day to day grind, perhaps they can't read, perhaps...whatever, it is their business, not mine. I might not agree with them, but they are not wrong. It is a little thing called tolerance. Simplified, if they tolerate me, then I should tolerate them. OK, now to relate this to the stagecraft list. I for one, am in between gigs. Nothing to share, nothing to ask, yet still count on the list as part of my daily routine. I am sure many others are in the same boat. Some of us just finished a busy production schedule and are enjoying a little levity before we hit the crunch again. Some of us might be in the middle of a busy production schedule right now, and welcome a little bathroom humor (come on, Greek tragedy bathroom humor, now that is almost highbrow). Not to mention a little humor ( even a fart joke) can make a bad situation a little bit better. Worry not, in time, as schedules rev up, I am sure the list will get serious again. (not too serious I hope.) What disturbs me more is the fact that sooooo many people in this world are concerned about what they like and dis-like rather than consideration for the common good of the people. (OOPS, rant mode must have been on, so sorry, all over.) Brian Rice 508-685-0716 b_ricie [at] yahoo.com "Blessed are the cracked: For it is they who let in the light." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070106111251.00c7f850 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 11:12:51 From: CB Subject: Re: new ideas for the stage tech olympics... >The control isn't in your hands, Clivey, it's in your butt-cheeks. So, uhm, daaaaave..... Howwizzit that 'Clivey' is perfectly acceptable, but 'Davey' is punishable by physical abuse? HMMMmmmm?!? Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012 ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 13:43:28 EST Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge In a message dated 06/01/07 04:47:05 GMT Standard Time, rigger [at] tds.net writes: > ...And I have. No HTML gets seen here; that's what the browser is > for. So if you send it in email and I don't see it, too bad. I hope > what you sent wasn't life-critical, but if you wanted it read by > everyone, perhaps you'd like to send it in a common format. For technical people, there is one problem with straight plaintext messages. From time to time, it would greatly increase the clarity of our communications if simple drawings could be sent. The sort of thing you would draw on a cigarette packet, if there were room for all the blasted health warnings. Plain-text attempts at this are seldom very clear. Does anyone know of a way to do this? Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070106111912.00c7f850 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 11:19:12 From: CB Subject: Re: Sound Specs >I know a tray is designed for you to LAY the cable into, but are you >going to hump that big spool/coil from one end of the building to the >other in order to do this? Ehm, Jerry, the advantage of trays is that you can pull the cable through the hallways and rooms, and then lay it in the tray after you've put connectors on it and tested it. Trays are really handy for an environment that'll change every once in a while, like television studios and labs and such. Just don't let the exec change the blues after you've specced the cable trays, to put them above the drop ceiling, 'because it's going to be so much prettier'. Whottanidjit. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <19791751.1168109281457.JavaMail.root [at] mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 12:48:01 -0600 (GMT-06:00) From: "Fred Schoening, Jr." Reply-To: "Fred Schoening, Jr." Subject: Re: Any Undergraduate Theater Information Appreciated! Oh. Whoops - guess I missed that one. That's what I get for sneakin' in some Stagecraft time when I'm supposed to be working. ;) Fred -----Original Message----- >I was kidding Fred. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070106112339.00c7f850 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 11:23:39 From: CB Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge >I think that I did it correctly this time!! Yes, very nice! Oh, don't go racing with Herrick. 'Sall I gotta say... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012 ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070106113042.00c7f850 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 11:30:42 From: CB Subject: Re: OT: First-aid & liability >Oh, I am keeping up just fine, CB. No, you really aren't. And your next statement proves that you've missed the point yet a third time. There is very little that is worse than dead, except getting there slowly and painfully. Asphyxiation is an uncomfortable death, and exsanguination, especially if it is rapid, is rather mild by comparison. If there is no other hope (I'll say lt again, it's been missed so many times by so many at this point), IF THERE IS NO OTHER HOPE of proper medical attention and your 'patient' is going to die, stabbing him in the throat to try to open an airway is something you have at hand. Watching him die slowly in agony is an alternative, yeah, if you want to go that way. >If you managed to sever a carotid, then you are making things worse - and >doing exactly what I said, removing any chance the person might survive >without your attempted help. A fifty-fifty shot at surviving with a tracheostomy or rapid exsanguination; or slowly asphyxiating while your friends/co-workers watch with their hands in their pockets for fear of intimidatition by counsel? Show of hands? Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012 ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070106113449.00c7f850 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 11:34:49 From: CB Subject: Re: OT: First-aid & liability >>> I do recall the admonition of one of my clients, a Golf Country Club, >>> posted. If someone has a heart attack on the green, beat them in the >>> chest >>> with a golf club to start the heart. >Did it suggest a Driver or a 3-Iron? Depends on the lie. Woods if he starts to die onthe fairway, hooded iron in deep grass. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012 ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 13:02:00 -0600 From: "Tim Catlett" Cc: bigfred [at] mindspring.com (Fred Schoening, Jr.) Subject: Re: Any Undergraduate Theater Information Appreciated! In-Reply-To: References: That's ok Fred. I know you meant well. Now get back to work otherwise I'll make sure your name is no good anymore. -- Tim Catlett Asst. Technical Director - Shorewood High School Drama Technical Director - Milwaukee Shakespeare Director of Outreach/Membership - ISETSA (International Secondary Education Theatre Health & Safety Association) Cell: 414.975.4424 EMAIL: catlett.lizardsdream [at] gmail.com On 1/6/07, Fred Schoening, Jr. wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Oh. Whoops - guess I missed that one. That's what I get > for sneakin' in some Stagecraft time when I'm supposed > to be working. ;) > > Fred > > -----Original Message----- > >I was kidding Fred. > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 11:01:33 -0800 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Sound Specs In-reply-to: Message-id: <7.0.1.0.0.20070106110041.01f9fcf8 [at] interstellar.com> References: At 03:19 AM 1/6/2007, CB wrote: >Ehm, Jerry, the advantage of trays is that you can pull the cable through >the hallways and rooms, and then lay it in the tray after you've put >connectors on it and tested it. You have a clear path from end to end to drag the spool/coil? Then by all means use trays. -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand ------------------------------ Message-ID: <459FF284.7000802 [at] fieldmousepro.com> Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 13:03:32 -0600 From: Stephen Lee Subject: Re: If you are interested in CPR... References: In-Reply-To: Steven Santos wrote: > ... but I agree with everything in the PDf presentation. If you have a few minutes, listen to the audio recording. The presenter expands on the PDF and is quite interesting to listen to. -- Stephen Lee Fieldmouse Productions Nashville, TN ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070106113839.00c7f850 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 11:38:39 From: CB Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge >Anyhoo she figgered it out on her own, you cantankerous old Phart. I am *not* cantankerous! I figured that she would, and by the quote that I sent, no, none of my e-mail programs would read it. Quite a few of us use some simpler e-mail clients because it reduces the clutter, spam, and potential for damage (you wouldn't know anything about that on the MAC) on other, less reliable, e-mail sources. The e-mail was really to Susan, but I figured if I could blame you on the way in, all the better... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 11:05:05 -0800 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge In-reply-to: Message-id: <7.0.1.0.0.20070106110233.01f26cf0 [at] interstellar.com> References: At 10:43 AM 1/6/2007, FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: >Plain-text attempts at this are seldom very clear. Does anyone know >of a way to do >this? You post the drawing to one of MANY free web sites and then provide a link. If anyone can't figure out how to do this, I (and I'm sure others) will host your drawing for you and give you the magic link to put in your message. Anyone wanting to take me up on this at any time, make sure I'm in town and then e-mail me the drawing (and mention Stagecraft). I'll put it on our server and give you a link. Also let me know how long to leave it there (week, month, etc.). -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand ------------------------------ Message-ID: <426599590701061120v4cb3aa45udc164f9e6ba514f1 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 09:20:37 -1000 From: "Jenny Yi" Subject: Re: Any Undergraduate Theater Information Appreciated! In-Reply-To: References:

Thank you so much for all your insight. I see that you worked at Ithaca! I've heard from Carolyn Tsutsui, stage manager at Hawaii Theater (where I am also currently apprenticing) has a good theatre program. I have slowly started emailing theater departments at various schools but I haven't even thought of contacting alumni. I'll look into that, thank you so much. -- With much aloha, Jenny Yi ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 16:05:33 -0500 Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <7733258.1168109550131.JavaMail.root [at] m41> CB She's from INDY, she may be able to show ya a thing or two. On 1/6/07 11:23 AM, "CB" wrote: > > Yes, very nice! Oh, don't go racing with Herrick. 'Sall I gotta say... > Chris "Chris" Babbie > Location Sound > MON AZ > > Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates > negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... > > Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012 > -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 16:30:14 -0500 From: Rigger Subject: Re: new ideas for the stage tech olympics... At 11:12 AM -0500 1/6/07, CB wrote: >So, uhm, daaaaave..... Howwizzit that 'Clivey' is perfectly acceptable, >but 'Davey' is punishable by physical abuse? HMMMmmmm?!? Because I own firearms and Clive doesn't. And I can get you you a lot easier than he can. -- Dave Vick rigger [at] tds.net I don't really think we gave barbarism a fair try. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070106141549.00c7f850 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 14:15:49 From: CB Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge >Definitions of Luddite on the Web: Definitions of Luddite on the Web:... Definitions of Luddite on the Web: No matter how many time I read that, it's still funny. It's not about hating you, Herrick, it's about the fact that some folk'll just abuse the fact that they can post in HTML and the place becomes an art gallery. If it were you (or just you and Susan) I could pretty much go right ahead and enjoy a digest in HTML, no prob. The issue is that there will be at least as many people being unconciously rude with HTML as there are with those that are inconsiderate with the trimming of posts. Until I see that there are fewer posts that contain the phrase "Original Message" more than twice, I'm unconvinced that we should give them more dangerous toys than plain text. Be happy that you are ahead of the curve as we are that you are as computer literate as you are (which tend to be a bit more than most of us) and understand that there are some that are just too artistic while being not computer savvy enough to play with HTML in mixed company. I know, it's hard to swallow a 'least common deniminator' rule coming from me, but I like the fact that sharps and hots and HTML are kept away from some folk. Love you, mean it, really. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012 ------------------------------ From: "Steven Santos" Subject: RE: If you are interested in CPR... Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 17:42:54 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: My internet is currently through my cell phone. FIOS comes on Tuesday. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Steven Santos Director, Simply Circus, Inc. Email: Steven [at] SimplyCircus.com Mail: PO BOX 620753 Newton, MA 02462 Phone: 781-799-4938 eFax: 309-214-0899 Web: www.SimplyCircus.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Stephen > Lee > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 2:04 PM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Re: If you are interested in CPR... > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Steven Santos wrote: > > ... but I agree with everything in the PDf presentation. > > If you have a few minutes, listen to the audio recording. The presenter > expands on the PDF and is quite interesting to listen to. > > -- > Stephen Lee > Fieldmouse Productions > Nashville, TN > > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Occy" References: <20972079.1168061571250.JavaMail.root [at] m41>

Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 14:49:15 -0800 My dad lives in the tulles even cell\mobile phones don't work no cable he lucky to have a hard line telephone. But he has very broadband via satellite and he says it cheap compared to dialup charges. I noticed an ad by Directv, now offers broadband. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Nelson" > --------------------------------------------------- > > I am too far from the CO to get DSL and cable modem is not an option. No > cable. I have been able to get by with the slow service, so have not > investigated a satellite service. > > Bill > > > ------------------------------ Subject: PQ 2007 Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 15:27:56 -0800 Message-ID: <0D95500B034AF040BB65163649D9372F470DA3 [at] mail.whittier.edu> In-Reply-To: From: "Reed Brian" This year, I'm hoping to attend my first Prague Quadrennial. (PQ 2007 runs June 14 to 24.) From what I've been reading, it is not too early to nail down transportation and lodging arrangements. I already have a bunch of information about Prague (Rick Steves, Lonely Planet, etc.), including lists and descriptions of many hotels. Nevertheless, I would appreciate hearing from anyone on the list who has specific suggestions for hotels and districts to consider or avoid, based on either personal experience or reliable word-of-mouth. =20 I'd also welcome additional travel-related suggestions about Prague, esp. from those who attended the last PQ. Feel free to respond off-list. Thanks in advance. Brian Brian A. Reed Professor of Theatre Whittier College Whittier, CA 90608 breed [at] whittier.edu =20 ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 18:29:20 EST Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge In a message dated 06/01/07 19:06:16 GMT Standard Time, jdurand [at] interstellar.com writes: > You post the drawing to one of MANY free web sites and then provide a > link. If anyone can't figure out how to do this, I (and I'm sure > others) will host your drawing for you and give you the magic link to > put in your message. I know how to do this, of course, although I should be interested to know what formats are acceptable. That said, it is a nuisance to the recipient, particurlarly those with slow access, and moody computers.And also to those with old drawing programmes. Also to the sender.. I think to do this, in a reasonably acceptable format, I should have to create the drawing in AutoSketch, import it to Word, and post it from there. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 15:41:33 -0800 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge In-reply-to: Message-id: <7.0.1.0.0.20070106153342.01f76bd0 [at] interstellar.com> References: At 03:29 PM 1/6/2007, FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: >I know how to do this, of course, although I should be interested to know >what formats are acceptable. Standard download formats are JPEG, GIF, PDF. >That said, it is a nuisance to the recipient, particurlarly those with slow >access, and moody computers.And also to those with old drawing >programmes. Also >to the sender.. I think to do this, in a reasonably acceptable format, I >should have to create the drawing in AutoSketch, import it to Word, >and post it >from there. [making hex signs at Word] DOC files are NOT generally a good idea. They are easily infected and not everyone has Word. If someone has an important drawing in some oddball format and can't convert to something "normal", then ask on the list. Many of us have all sorts of software and can often convert things if asked nicely. For example, I have Office 2000, Office XP, NeoOffice (Mac), SmartDraw 7, TurboCAD Pro (can read all sorts of CAD formats), Acrobat Creator, ... -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 18:47:44 EST Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge In a message dated 06/01/07 21:42:37 GMT Standard Time, psyd [at] cox.net writes: > It's not about hating you, Herrick, it's about the fact that some folk'll > just abuse the fact that they can post in HTML and the place becomes an art > gallery. If it were you (or just you and Susan) I could pretty much go > right ahead and enjoy a digest in HTML, no prob. The issue is that there > will be at least as many people being unconciously rude with HTML as there > are with those that are inconsiderate with the trimming of posts. Until I > see that there are fewer posts that contain the phrase "Original Message" > more than twice, I'm unconvinced that we should give them more dangerous > toys than plain text. Be happy that you are ahead of the curve as we are > that you are as computer literate as you are (which tend to be a bit more > than most of us) and understand that there are some that are just too > artistic while being not computer savvy enough to play with HTML in mixed > company. This is probably the first time this year that I post an agreement with Chris. I started out trying to save bandwidth, as a courtesy to the recipients. This was some time ago, but it has become a habit. I also made it a habit to check, by eye, the content for spelling and grammar, for two reasons. First, that it makes posts easier to read, and second, that it would ashame me to get either wrong. We have all wrestled with mis-spelt and ungrammatical posts, and usually understood them. But, it's not why we read them. We read them for potentially useful information. If this is hard to extract, I am likely to say "Sod it" and move to the next message. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 15:51:42 -0800 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Smelly rooms? Message-id: <7.0.1.0.0.20070106154905.01f76d18 [at] interstellar.com> I wonder what venue are they planning this for. I hope they know the venue will smell of this for a LONG time after they turn the system off. >A system is needed capable of filling a large space with the fragrance from >a liquid, using only the distributing power available from the ambient air >temperature, humidity, and circulation. The fragrance should start strong, >and stay strong over an extended period of at least 30 days. The liquid- >fragrance dispensing system must have high linearity -- a steady dispersion >during the life of the product. >To respond to this Tech Need visit: >http://link.abpi.net/l.php?20070104A4 -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: <11697208.1168021774917.JavaMail.root [at] m41>

Message-Id: <4B2DF64B-1FF0-4D0B-B134-7B4AD2969446 [at] theprices.net> From: Noah Price Subject: Why no HTML? (was Re: Herrick's pledge) Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 16:02:36 -0800 On Jan 5, 2007, at 3:41 PM, Jerry Durand wrote: > At 03:35 PM 1/5/2007, Herrick Goldman wrote: >> CB, I don't even know what plain text is. I think Entourage just >> randomly >> does it. This list is so old, why can't we post in modern formats? >> Is your >> VX1000 having trouble with the font size? > > Posting in modern formats will break some people's e-mail programs, > bump up your spam score on any of us dumb enough to filter > messages, and allow the sending of "evil" HTML code (tracking or > worse). The HTML posts should be getting bounced again when they arrive at the server. That was the normal list behavior, but somehow it got backed off to allow any text format (incluing HTML, etc.). As Frank noted later in this thread, "plain text only" is how the list has behaved since I've started running it, and probably before that. The reason for blocking HTML has nothing to do with being purist for text-only or wasted storage or evil HTML exploits. The problem is that it makes a mess of the digest, which almost 2/3 of you have chosen. I tried sending MIME formated digests when I first started running the list, but I was soundly beaten and returned quickly to the traditional text version you see today. Yes, I know there are filtering solutions I can implement, and perhaps when I get through a few other upgrades I'll make the text processing a bit more flexible and transparent. On Jan 6, 2007, at 11:05 AM, Jerry Durand wrote: > You post the drawing to one of MANY free web sites and then provide > a link. If anyone can't figure out how to do this, I (and I'm sure > others) will host your drawing for you and give you the magic link > to put in your message. Exactly -- many on the list can do this, and you can also send it to me if you'd like it on the Stagecraft web site (which I typically prefer to assure things don't disappear leaving meaningless links in the older posts, but it's no problem going to Jerry or the others on the list with web space as well). On Jan 5, 2007, at 6:50 PM, Kurt Cypher wrote: > Also, the HTML and fancy-formatted email takes up a lot more space on > the email server, so those who have limited space in their INBOX can > run out of room faster when receiving a lot of email in so-called > modern formats. I had to look twice to believe that was written by someone with a Gmail account :-) Okay, I know you're talking about other accounts, but still it was funny. Sorry, email hosting humor... If anyone is truly that cramped by available email space, drop me a note off list... Noah ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <243149D0-A836-45B5-805C-A7C564A810E9 [at] rochester.rr.com> From: Bruce Purdy Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 20:09:45 -0500 On 6 Jan 2007, at 18:29, FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: > I know how to do this, of course, although I should be interested > to know > what formats are acceptable. > > That said, it is a nuisance to the recipient, particurlarly those > with slow > access, and moody computers.And also to those with old drawing > programmes. Also > to the sender.. I think to do this, in a reasonably acceptable > format, I > should have to create the drawing in AutoSketch, import it to Word, > and post it > from there. In what way would posting a link to a Web page be a nuisance to the recipient? They can either ignore the link, or simply click on it and the page magically appears displaying the artwork! As for the sender, creating a gif or jpeg version of your napkin drawing is as easy as putting it on a scanner. Yes, I realise that not everyone has a scanner at home, but they are fairly common these days. If you don't have one yourself, chances are you know someone that does. Bruce ____________________ Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 01:04:15 +0000 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: little things that can kill the list References:

In-Reply-To: In message , b Ricie writes >Some of us might be in the middle of a busy production schedule right >now, and welcome a little bathroom humor (come on, Greek tragedy >bathroom humor, now that is almost highbrow). Not to mention a little >humor ( even a fart joke) can make a bad situation a little bit better. Well here's a classic visual fart joke then..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX6aohKn1Qs -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 01:07:28 +0000 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: OT: First-aid & liability References: In-Reply-To: In message , CB writes >>>> I do recall the admonition of one of my clients, a Golf Country Club, >>>> posted. If someone has a heart attack on the green, beat them in the >>>> chest >>>> with a golf club to start the heart. >>Did it suggest a Driver or a 3-Iron? > >Depends on the lie. Woods if he starts to die onthe fairway, hooded >iron >in deep grass. I suppose if you used the ball you could administer the treatment from a considerable distance away. -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <+Q8WIZJ+nEoFFwJ$ [at] ntlworld.com> Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 01:16:46 +0000 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: new ideas for the stage tech olympics... References:

In-Reply-To: In message , Rigger writes >Because I own firearms and Clive doesn't. >And I can get you you a lot easier than he can. I do actually have a gun, but for legal reasons it's kept locked in an armourers safe far away from me. :) -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ From: "Steven Santos" Subject: RE: OT: First-aid & liability Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 20:28:47 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Back in the 80's their was an incident where a CPR instructor for the NYPD taught what is now known as NY-CPR. From what I have heard, the class went something like this: COP: "This CPR stuff is great, but I don't wanna catch that AIDS stuff" CPR INSTRUCTOR: "Yeah, that bothers me too. So I have an alernate technique I can teach you where you won't have any risk of catching it - you never even have to touch the patient" COP: "OK! Great!" CPR INSTRUCTOR: Walks over and stands next to CPR dummy. "The technique goes like this:" The CPR instructor then lifts his foot and procedes: Stomp Stomp Blow Stomp Stomp Blow Stomp Stomp Blow COP: Wow that great! but why bother to blow, I mean, you haven't even taken you foot off the chest, blowing into the air like that doesn't do anything, does it? CPR INSTRUCTOR: Just blow, its in the regs that you have too. It was on this day that NY-CPR was born. I often wonder if this will make a comeback... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Steven Santos Director, Simply Circus, Inc. Email: Steven [at] SimplyCircus.com Mail: PO BOX 620753 Newton, MA 02462 Phone: 781-799-4938 eFax: 309-214-0899 Web: www.SimplyCircus.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Clive > Mitchell > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 8:07 PM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Re: OT: First-aid & liability > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > In message , CB writes > >>>> I do recall the admonition of one of my clients, a Golf Country Club, > >>>> posted. If someone has a heart attack on the green, beat them in the > >>>> chest > >>>> with a golf club to start the heart. > >>Did it suggest a Driver or a 3-Iron? > > > >Depends on the lie. Woods if he starts to die onthe fairway, hooded > >iron > >in deep grass. > > I suppose if you used the ball you could administer the treatment from a > considerable distance away. > > -- > Clive Mitchell > http://www.bigclive.com > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <45A07162.5010007 [at] fieldmousepro.com> Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 22:04:50 -0600 From: Stephen Lee Subject: Re: Smelly rooms? References: In-Reply-To: > A system is needed capable of filling a large space with the > fragrance from a liquid, using only the distributing power > available from the ambient air temperature, humidity, and > circulation. I've noticed that Westin hotels have been installing "scent generators" in their lobbies, as part of their "signature scent/sensory welcome" branding scheme. Here are the "ScentWave" units: http://www.scentair.com/products/index.cfm?subSectionID=2 -- Stephen Lee Fieldmouse Productions Nashville, TN ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <549.ee6f5d1.32d1ed7d [at] aol.com> Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 01:30:21 EST Subject: Re: Smelly rooms? _mouse [at] fieldmousepro.com_ (mailto:mouse [at] fieldmousepro.com) writes: << I've noticed that Westin hotels have been installing "scent generators" in their lobbies, as part of their "signature scent/sensory welcome" branding scheme. Here are the "ScentWave" units: _http://www.scentair.com/products/index.cfm?subSectionID=2_ (http://www.scentair.com/products/index.cfm?subSectionID=2) >> Given that 7-20% of the population is fragrance sensitive (ranging from mild annoyance to anaphylactic shock)... this is a TERRIBLE idea! ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1084.205.215.253.115.1168151950.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 22:39:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge From: "Bill Nelson" > As for the sender, creating a gif or jpeg version of your napkin > drawing is as easy as putting it on a scanner. Yes, I realise that > not everyone has a scanner at home, but they are fairly common these > days. If you don't have one yourself, chances are you know someone > that does. Or you can buy a cheap AIO (all in one) scanner/fax/printer for about $80 at Staples or just about any discount store with an electronics section. Bill ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 03:04:53 -0500 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge At 10:39 PM -0800 1/6/07, Bill Nelson wrote: >> As for the sender, creating a gif or jpeg version of your napkin >> drawing is as easy as putting it on a scanner. Yes, I realise that >> not everyone has a scanner at home, but they are fairly common these >> days. If you don't have one yourself, chances are you know someone >> that does. > >Or you can buy a cheap AIO (all in one) scanner/fax/printer for about $80 >at Staples or just about any discount store with an electronics section. ...Or you can spend a few minutes and a coupla bucks at your local Kinko's. -- Dave Vick rigger [at] tds.net "Jumping is easy and falling is fun... Right up 'til you hit the sidewalk, shivering and stunned" --Ani DiFranco ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1340.205.215.253.115.1168157538.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20972079.1168061571250.JavaMail.root [at] m41>

Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 00:12:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Herrick's pledge From: "Bill Nelson" > My dad lives in the tulles even cell\mobile phones don't work no cable he > lucky to have a hard line telephone. But he has very broadband via > satellite > and he says it cheap compared to dialup charges. Not here it isn't. The least expensive satellite service I could find is about $50/month, several hundred dollars for the equipment and installation and requires a contract with about a $500 penalty for early termination. I get my dial-up with unlimited hours for $12.95/month. If I just wanted email, I can get that for $2.00/month. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1367.205.215.253.115.1168158640.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 00:30:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Sound Specs From: "Bill Nelson" > At 03:19 AM 1/6/2007, CB wrote: >>Ehm, Jerry, the advantage of trays is that you can pull the cable through >>the hallways and rooms, and then lay it in the tray after you've put >>connectors on it and tested it. That would be a problem if the tray goes through walls or you don't have one side of the tray completely open. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <45A0B3B8.8070503 [at] gmail.com> Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 03:47:52 -0500 From: Brian James Reply-To: brianedwardjames [at] gmail.com Subject: Re: Any Undergraduate Theater Information Appreciated! References:

In-Reply-To: Jenny, The only thing I would look into in addition to previous emails.: 1) Variety and types of experiences the academic program offers. This should include things like the number of shows they d?. Do they use more than one venue? What type of productions do they do (musical, straight theater, etc). These are some more minor details admittedly, but there is a lot to be said for hands on application of the text books for learning. If the choices and options are too narrow for your interests, then you probable are not going to be happy and not learn as much as you could in a broader program. How ever if you know you only want to do certain types of entertainment, then find the more focused program that meets your needs. 2) Other experiences available on campus or near by. Many schools have an academic theatrical program and non-academic program. For instance, where I work, the Theatre Department has their own spaces an resources (and they are quite good), but I run a non-academic program that supports a road house and other venues that host very simple events to very complex events (theatrical, rock and roll, industrials, very fancy dinners, etc). Since my area is non-academic, it is a job, however I do have a number of the theatre majors that work for me (between the theatre schedule) and they are exposed to situations, equipment, applications, environments, etc, etc) that they would not be able to see in their course of study, and they earn some cash at a job while enhancing their experience and knowledge in their degree field.. Just to be clear, an area like mine should not replace a formal education of some sort, but since I am tied to a college, part of my job is to educate you. The more variety of experience you have makes you more knowledgeable not only about the craft, but about what you want and should expect when you become professional (and helps the resume). I have a degree in theatre and found my experiences in the education program I was in to be invaluable to me (even today), but I also worked for the non-academic program when in college and have found those experiences every bit as important. Because I did both jobs, I was able to develop a very strong sense of what I wanted to do when I graduated and what I wanted from my professional life, which were very different that what I thought I wanted when I started college (that would be a hint =) ). It was nice to have this discovery process, with all the support available on a campus, before I started the job hunt for the "real life" job. Generally you will find (school dependent) that the non-academic group, even though it is a job, to be more education oriented with you that if you had an off campus contract with a commercial entity, in a really good situation, there are ties between the academic folks and the areas like me (formal or informal) so that you can be supported better in your education. Hope this makes some sort of sense?? I wish you the best in your future endeavors and your research...... there is some GREAT stuff out there, and to reiterate what others have said.... this is a great source for you, especially since it is a mix of educational folks and non-educational folks. Enjoy! Jenny Yi wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Thank you so much for all your insight. I see that you worked at > Ithaca! I've heard from Carolyn Tsutsui, stage manager at Hawaii > Theater (where I am also currently apprenticing) has a good theatre > program. I have slowly started emailing theater departments at various > schools but I haven't even thought of contacting alumni. I'll look > into that, thank you so much. > ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "RD" Subject: RE: OT: First-aid & liability Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 01:47:51 -0700 Message-ID: <00e901c73238$bc682e10$6501a8c0 [at] doom1> In-Reply-To: Unless someone gets teed off and then all bets are on the green. Doom -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Clive Mitchell Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 6:07 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: OT: First-aid & liability For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- In message , CB writes >>>> I do recall the admonition of one of my clients, a Golf Country Club, >>>> posted. If someone has a heart attack on the green, beat them in the >>>> chest >>>> with a golf club to start the heart. >>Did it suggest a Driver or a 3-Iron? > >Depends on the lie. Woods if he starts to die onthe fairway, hooded >iron >in deep grass. I suppose if you used the ball you could administer the treatment from a considerable distance away. -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1398.205.215.253.115.1168160038.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 00:53:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: OT: First-aid & liability From: "Bill Nelson" > rather mild by comparison. If there is no other hope (I'll say lt again, > it's been missed so many times by so many at this point), IF THERE IS NO > OTHER HOPE of proper medical attention and your 'patient' is going to die, > stabbing him in the throat to try to open an airway is something you have > at hand. Watching him die slowly in agony is an alternative, yeah, if you > want to go that way. You are right, I missed the point. If there is no other hope, then go for it. I have enough training that I could successfully perform the procedure, but I would not be able to guarantee that I would not injure the vocal cords. On the other hand, if I were the person in distress, I would rather be a mute the rest of what might be a normal remaining lifespan than be dead. Bill ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 23:37:13 -1000 From: carolyntsutsui [at] hawaii.rr.com Subject: Re: Any Undergraduate Theater Information Appreciated! In-reply-to: Message-id: References:

Aloha All I am one of Jenny's supervisors here at the Hawaii Theatre and I have to say Thank You for offering so much wonderful advice. She definitely has the dedication to do what is necessary in this business. She has been a blessing to us with her help in December on our Jim Nabor's Christmas Show and then our Brother Cazimero Christmas Show. Her eagerness to learn has brighten my days more than I can begin to tell you. Since I can only offer her my advice from my college experience I thought it would be good for her to ask you all and as always you have welcomed her in. Mahalo Carolyn Carolyn Cubit-Tsutsui Stage Manager Hawaii Theatre carolyntsutsui [at] hawaiitheatre.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Jenny Yi Date: Saturday, January 6, 2007 9:21 am Subject: Re: Any Undergraduate Theater Information Appreciated! To: Stagecraft > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------- > ------------------ > > Thank you so much for all your insight. I see that you worked at > Ithaca! I've heard from Carolyn Tsutsui, stage manager at Hawaii > Theater (where I am also currently apprenticing) has a good theatre > program. I have slowly started emailing theater departments at various > schools but I haven't even thought of contacting alumni. I'll look > into that, thank you so much. > > -- > With much aloha, > Jenny Yi > ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #1078 ******************************