Return-Path: X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 41163273; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 03:01:19 -0800 X-List-Processed: mail.prxy.net X-ListMember: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 41163271; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 03:01:19 -0800 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ADVANCE_FEE_1,AWL, NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS,SUBJ_HAS_UNIQ_ID autolearn=ham version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on localhost X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: List-Archive: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #1088 Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 03:00:52 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #1088 1. Re: stacking truss on spansets by Samuel Jones 2. Re: Inflated stadium roof deflates by "Jon Ares" 3. Re: New questions by Dale Farmer 4. Re: Inflated stadium roof deflates by "Susan Nicholson" 5. Re: Inflated stadium roof deflates by "Brian Munroe" 6. Re: Inflated stadium roof deflates by "Brian Munroe" 7. Re: Inflated stadium roof deflates by Charlie Richmond 8. Re: Motivating students to use power tools by Loren Schreiber 9. Osram EHG lamps vs. Altman 360Q sockets by Scott Peterson 10. Re: Osram EHG lamps vs. Altman 360Q sockets by "Bill Nelson" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <3CB20DA7-71A1-4F4C-AB8E-C014149F265C [at] ucla.edu> From: Samuel Jones Subject: Re: stacking truss on spansets Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 21:14:48 -0800 On Jan 12, 2007, at 4:33 PM, Bill Sapsis wrote: > To put people at risk because the venue didn't have a half dozen 6' > roundslings (what...about $12 each?) in stock is, IMHO, negligent > bordering > on criminal. According to the Sapsis Rigging catalog $16.70. Sam ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001f01c736d4$bc726a10$0400000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References:

Subject: Re: Inflated stadium roof deflates Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 21:36:12 -0800 > Runnng Automation on "Curtains" at the Ahmanson Theatre in LA this > past summer. Us North Easterners had to build a tent on stage to > deflect the AC away from console land and we still had to wear sweat > jackets. Brrr. Ahh, see - there's the difference, at the Ahmanson, anyway. You're sitting still, behind your cushy console, with not much more than your upper extremeties moving. I've performed at the Ahmanson... and that southern Argentinian air on that stage is a nice thing.... :) (I generally prefer a 'nip' in the air, when working. Keeps me from that awful thing called 'sweating.' But I'm not so much a fan when I'm just 'sitting.') - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Message-ID: <45A87C0E.2000604 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 01:28:30 -0500 From: Dale Farmer Subject: Re: New questions References:

In-Reply-To: Jon Ares wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > >> That wouldn't work in Jon's case, where the heating is not even >> turned on >> during weekends or after about 6pm on weekdays. I assume the same is >> true >> of air conditioning in the summer. > > > Yep. But let's remember, we need A/C around here in Sept, Oct, and > performance nights in Nov/Dec. Oh, and April, May and June are pretty > warm around here, too. (It's not like you can just open a window in > the theatres.) :) > > - Jon Ares > www.hevanet.com/acreative > > > Depends on the system. Depending on a bunch of factors not worth cataloging here, a lot of HVAC automation systems never actually totally disable heat or cooling, they just change the allowable upper and lower setpoints for the thermostat. In some cases, it is actually more economical to run the cooling systems at full power overnight, and run them at lower capacity during the heat of the day. It all depends on how their control system is setup. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Susan Nicholson" Subject: Re: Inflated stadium roof deflates Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 01:29:20 -0500 I have watched a lot of football this season (my roommate bought the season pass on direct tv). There were times that the long shadows on the field created a problem for us in TV land to see. Miss a couple of key plays and touchdown throws because of this. They didn't have the lights on because it was late afternoon during these games and were not needed as long as you were in the stadium. -s Susan Nicholson Lighting Designer 917-621-6298 "We are the Music Makers and we are the Dreamers of the Dream"-Willy Wonka From: David Duffy Reply-To: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Subject: Re: Inflated stadium roof deflates Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 12:01:37 +1000 For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Michael Finney wrote: > Chip Wood wrote: > > < also has a retractable roof, but despite perfect AZ winter weather, > remained closed for all of them !???? Why did I have to pay for the > retractable part?>> > > If it's like most of the televised late afternoon games I've worked in > stadiums with retractable roofs, it came down to consistent and > predictable lighting across the entire field for the broadcast cameras. > For instance, there was discussion of leaving the roof open in Houston > for the Superbowl a couple of years ago, but the decision was made two > or three days before game day to not take the chance. Just think of all > those afternoon games you've seen broadcast where part of the field was > too dark to see and the rest was too bright...nobody wants that on a > game that's supposed to pull in a big audience..... > Is the light level really that much of a problem. In Australia the major cricket grounds are all open and use lighting towers when the natural light drops. The TV broadcasts always look perfectly fine to me. David.... -- ___________________________________________ David Duffy Audio Visual Devices P/L Unit 8, 10 Hook St, Capalaba 4157 Australia Ph: +61 7 38235717 Fax: +61 7 38234717 New Web: www.audiovisualdevices.com.au ___________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ Type your favorite song. Get a customized station. Try MSN Radio powered by Pandora. http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001 ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 01:31:31 -0500 From: "Brian Munroe" Subject: Re: Inflated stadium roof deflates In-Reply-To: References:

On 1/12/07, Charlie Richmond wrote: > Using the generic term 'automation' with the assumption that everyone > 'automatically' knows it refers to the programming of automated rigging systems > really bugs me... why? hmmmmm... well, if you aren't aware of it, automation > can be found in all sorts of other areas ;-) I see your point, Charlie. In my end of the business, automation operator or automation dept, etc always refers to automated scenery, either flies or deck. I work in a narrow end of the industry. Next time I'll try and be a little more specific. Brian Munroe bpmunroe [at] gmail.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 01:33:53 -0500 From: "Brian Munroe" Subject: Re: Inflated stadium roof deflates In-Reply-To: References:

On 1/13/07, Jon Ares wrote: > (I generally prefer a 'nip' in the air, when working. Keeps me from that > awful thing called 'sweating.' But I'm not so much a fan when I'm just > 'sitting.') It didn't help that we were directly underneath the AC vents. Never though I would need to buy a sweatjacket in LA during the summer. Brian Munroe bpmunroe [at] gmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 06:36:41 +0000 (GMT) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: Inflated stadium roof deflates In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References:

On Sat, 13 Jan 2007, Brian Munroe wrote: > I see your point, Charlie. In my end of the business, automation > operator or automation dept, etc always refers to automated scenery, > either flies or deck. I work in a narrow end of the industry. Next > time I'll try and be a little more specific. My apologies for the rant, which was not intended to be aimed at you specifically... just had to vent a bit!! C ------------------------------ Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20070112224154.0289b5e0 [at] mail.sdsu.edu> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 22:54:05 -0800 From: Loren Schreiber Subject: Re: Motivating students to use power tools In-Reply-To: References: I have employed the following to get disinterested students to learn how to use power tools. The project is a simple 2' x 3' muslin covered flat, accurate to 1/16th of an inch. They are given *4* hours to complete the task. Those who *emote* fear of the power tools (and I DO mean *emote* from the mostly actor types) are instructed how to use hand saws and hand staple guns. After awhile, they usually sidle over and ask to be shown how to use the power tools. No longer disinterested, most become surprisingly adept at power tool use. It works for me :-) . Boys in my generation (Gawd! I sound like Frank) grew up with power tools. I was using a table saw at 11, wood lathes and joiners at 12. The worst injury I have ever suffered in a scene shop was from a matte knife. Go figure. Loren "Grits" Schreiber Long Reach Long Rider: "Out of the Wings and Into the Wind!" Supporting Broadway Cares/Equity Fights AIDS and Behind the Scenes http://www.lrlr.org ------------------------------ Message-ID: <45A89789.3070704 [at] earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 00:25:45 -0800 From: Scott Peterson Subject: Osram EHG lamps vs. Altman 360Q sockets References: In-Reply-To: Hi All, We have noticed with a recent batch of Osram EHG (750w) lamps that they don't fit into the bases of our old Altman 360Q fixtures. It seems like the lamp bases are now formed with sharper corners, as opposed to the rounded off corners they used to have. Anyone else notice this? Any suggestions that don't include removing the sheet metal that covers the top of the socket? Could I sand the corners down a smidge? Thanks, -Scott Scott Peterson Technical Director Highlander Auditorium - Upland, CA scott [at] highlanderauditorium.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3056.205.215.253.16.1168685091.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 02:44:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Osram EHG lamps vs. Altman 360Q sockets From: "Bill Nelson" > We have noticed with a recent batch of Osram EHG (750w) lamps that they > don't fit into the bases of our old Altman 360Q fixtures. It seems like > the lamp bases are now formed with sharper corners, as opposed to the > rounded off corners they used to have. > > Anyone else notice this? Any suggestions that don't include removing the > sheet metal that covers the top of the socket? Could I sand the corners > down a smidge? Sanding might be a bit slow, but you might be able to file a bit off. I seem to recall that there is a similar problem with the 575W Osram lamps for the S4 instruments. The ceramic base is apparently slightly larger than the original metal heatsink base. Is my memory correct or am I hallucinating from lack of sleep? Bill ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #1088 ******************************