Return-Path: X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 41292701; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 03:02:21 -0800 X-List-Processed: mail.prxy.net X-ListMember: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 41292186; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 03:02:05 -0800 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS, SUBJ_HAS_UNIQ_ID autolearn=unavailable version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on localhost X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: List-Archive: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #1092 Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 03:01:27 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #1092 1. Re: Sussing Sound Buzz when lighting might be the culprit? by Dale Farmer 2. Re: Theatre and PAC architects by "Occy" 3. Stagecraft Drinks night NYC by Herrick Goldman 4. Re: Stagecraft Drinks night NYC by "Scott Parker" 5. Re: Stagecraft Drinks night NYC by "Occy" 6. Re: Stagecraft Drinks night NYC by "Joe Saint" 7. Re: Carvewright by "paul.guncheon [at] hawaiiantel.net" 8. Re: Carvewright by Bruce Purdy 9. Re: Carvewright by Michael Heinicke 10. Turnbuckles have their uses. by Clive Mitchell 11. Re: Carvewright by Clive Mitchell 12. Re: Turnbuckles have their uses. by "Bill Nelson" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <45AC3A86.9030503 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 21:37:58 -0500 From: Dale Farmer Subject: Re: Sussing Sound Buzz when lighting might be the culprit? References:

In-Reply-To: Occy wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Or the reverse wired pick up on a guitar for a very famous guitar player in > an very famous band and it was his favorite guitar. But wanted to know if he > didn't play the guitar the buzz would go away, we all nodded, then he said > well it does the same thing at home, what should I expect he then said. The > guitar player only used that guitar on one song because of the buzz it > generated. This group toured with 78 guitars on that tour, I think they had > plenty, that they could to choice from, but not sure. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mitch Hefter" > > >>> >>> >> There was a Stump the Electricians session at USITT '06 in Louisville. We >> will be having another one in Phoenix this March. >> >> The most common cause of hum/buzz I've encountered over the years has been >> bad grounds or ground loop(s) in the sound system - the problem not being >> due to the lighting system, just made evident by it. And simply >> "grounding everything" doesn't necessarily help if you've got a ground >> loop - it could make it worse. CB will set me straight here I'm sure. >> >> Whenever I've been questioned about a sound system buzz that wasn't there >> before the dimmer system, I've always asked them to verify the ground loop >> situation. If there isn't one, then we'll go onto the next step, such as >> a bad ground, bad neutral, or ground/neutral issue as described above. I >> can't recall anyone calling back to say that they have no ground loop >> issue but still have a buzz. Of course, there may be a first time. AES 48! Just say no to the pin one design fault. Following that will solve an awful lot of these mysterious and maddening unwanted noises in our sound systems. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Occy" References:

Subject: Re: Theatre and PAC architects Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:44:51 -0800 What are you talking about, thats how contractor makes his money.... bid stupidly low make all the profit off the change orders. Been there done that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Delbert Hall" > --------------------------------------------------- > Very true. Change orders can be very expensive and the bigger the > project the more expensive they are. > > -Delbert > -- > Delbert L. Hall > ETCP Certified Rigger - Theatre > 423-773-4255 > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 22:01:00 -0500 Subject: Stagecraft Drinks night NYC From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: One week from tonight. 1/22 at DBA 41 first Ave NYC http://www.drinkgoodstuff.com/ny/default.asp Lets say 7pm start but come when ya can. They have a back garden with a tent and heat lamps. Usually there is more room back there. If it's jammed we'll be back there. If it's dead quiet we'll be at the tables across from the bar. My cell is below call or text. (yes text it's a new method of communicating quickly and it's useful in loud environments). I've been getting requests for RSVP's (who is coming) it seems just my drunken self is not enough of a draw. So if'n you think you may come just pipe up. Warning, sadly they have no food but you can bring in and we can order pizza from next door. Double warning...Last time we did this we ended up at Avenue A Sushi (they play Anime and have a mirrorball) At some point Ken Romaine even started looking real Purty Like. Whiskey Beer and Sake have that affect. Bring cash and bail $$. The Triple AAA bail agreement won't work unless you're in a car...just so ya know. Feel free to invite non-listers who know what it is we're talking about. Feel free to find corporate sponsors.....Rosco, City Theatrical, Altman, PRG, Barco, TMB, etc..... Unkie Bill I got a couch that folds out so you can just park the bike over night. See y'all there! -H -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Message-ID: <90d9c9980701151949h2e59ff21m20c11839a2729a55 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 22:49:56 -0500 From: "Scott Parker" Subject: Re: Stagecraft Drinks night NYC In-Reply-To: References: I'm there after my little one hits the pillow. My wife's book club night, so I'm on bed duty. Around 9+/-... Scott On 1/15/07, Herrick Goldman wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > One week from tonight. 1/22 at DBA 41 first Ave NYC > -- Thanks and take care, Scott Scott C. Parker Professor/Technical Director Dept. of Performing Arts Dyson College of Arts and Sciences [at] Pace University Office/shipping: 41 Park Row, 1205F Mailing: 1 Pace Plaza New York, NY 10038 212-346-1423 Fax: 914-989-8425 ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Occy" References: Subject: Re: Stagecraft Drinks night NYC Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:33:12 -0800 Humm I been wondering about this for a while, wonder if I can find a round tripper and still have fun, but I don't have to be back until the morning of the 25 for my last surgery on my mutated hand. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herrick Goldman" > --------------------------------------------------- > > One week from tonight. 1/22 at DBA 41 first Ave NYC > > http://www.drinkgoodstuff.com/ny/default.asp > > Lets say 7pm start but come when ya can. They have a back garden with a > tent > and heat lamps. Usually there is more room back there. If it's jammed > we'll > be back there. If it's dead quiet we'll be at the tables across from the > bar. My cell is below call or text. (yes text it's a new method of > communicating quickly and it's useful in loud environments). > > I've been getting requests for RSVP's (who is coming) it seems just my > drunken self is not enough of a draw. So if'n you think you may come just > pipe up. > > Warning, sadly they have no food but you can bring in and we can order > pizza > from next door. Double warning...Last time we did this we ended up at > Avenue > A Sushi (they play Anime and have a mirrorball) At some point Ken Romaine > even started looking real Purty Like. Whiskey Beer and Sake have that > affect. Bring cash and bail $$. The Triple AAA bail agreement won't work > unless you're in a car...just so ya know. > > Feel free to invite non-listers who know what it is we're talking about. > > Feel free to find corporate sponsors.....Rosco, City Theatrical, Altman, > PRG, Barco, TMB, etc..... > > Unkie Bill I got a couch that folds out so you can just park the bike over > night. > > See y'all there! > > -H > > > > > -- > Herrick Goldman > Lighting Designer, NYC > www.HGLightingDesign.com > 917-797-3624 > "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in > light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS > > > ------------------------------ From: "Joe Saint" References: Subject: RE: Stagecraft Drinks night NYC Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 00:44:53 -0500 Message-ID: <004001c73931$72a53980$640fa8c0 [at] D3G47461> In-Reply-To: Subject: Stagecraft Drinks night NYC One week from tonight. 1/22 at DBA 41 first Ave NYC http://www.drinkgoodstuff.com/ny/default.asp Lets say 7pm start but come when ya can. They have a back garden with a tent and heat lamps. Usually there is more room back there. If it's jammed we'll be back there. If it's dead quiet we'll be at the tables across from the bar. My cell is below call or text. (yes text it's a new method of communicating quickly and it's useful in loud environments). I've been getting requests for RSVP's (who is coming) it seems just my drunken self is not enough of a draw. So if'n you think you may come just pipe up. Warning, sadly they have no food but you can bring in and we can order pizza from next door. Double warning...Last time we did this we ended up at Avenue A Sushi (they play Anime and have a mirrorball) At some point Ken Romaine even started looking real Purty Like. Whiskey Beer and Sake have that affect. Bring cash and bail $$. The Triple AAA bail agreement won't work unless you're in a car...just so ya know. Feel free to invite non-listers who know what it is we're talking about. ---------------------------------------- HG et al, I shall be there with at least a couple IMCD'ers. I have soccer at 7 so look for me around 9-ish. Joe Joe Saint President IMCD Lighting 646-415-7588 www.imcdlighting.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <25868389.1168928597607.JavaMail.? [at] fh056.dia.cp.net> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 06:23:17 +0000 (UTC) From: "paul.guncheon [at] hawaiiantel.net" Reply-To: "paul.guncheon [at] hawaiiantel.net" Subject: Re: Carvewright <> This item is also being "marketed" by Sears. They are available by special order only. I found out by visiting a store here then by contacting Sears that although they are featured in a recent mailed catalog, they are not available anywhere from Sears, you cannot inspect one anywhere, nor can you try out the software. I don't believe you can order one from them either... or else you can order one but they cannot deliver one. Weird. It looks like a great prop making device, but without actually seeing and playing with one... Anybody? Laters, Paul ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <0A9BAECA-A86B-4CB2-B0EF-ECA3274A5130 [at] rochester.rr.com> From: Bruce Purdy Subject: Re: Carvewright Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 01:31:46 -0500 On 16 Jan 2007, at 01:23, paul.guncheon [at] hawaiiantel.net wrote: >> I recently found out about a tool that someone on this >> list may be interested in. >> http://www.carvewright.com/ >> is the link. > you cannot inspect > one anywhere, nor can you try out the software. Getting a hands on opportunity is problematic, but the software (A trial version at least) is available in Mac or PC version from the link above. (Go to the "Downloads" page.) If I had a couple grand laying around, I'd love to get one! Not something I really "Need", but it sure looks neat! Bruce ____________________ Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 22:38:49 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Heinicke Subject: Re: Carvewright Cc: paul.guncheon [at] hawaiiantel.net (paul.guncheon [at] hawaiiantel.net) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <423128.18047.qm [at] web82202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I saw one in a local Sears on the shelf, but I believe it was still a special order. From what I saw, it didn't look like it was a working demo, but I didn't really have time to stop and look. Mike Heinicke --- "paul.guncheon [at] hawaiiantel.net" > > This item is also being "marketed" by Sears. They > are available by > special order only. I found out by visiting a store > here then by > contacting Sears that although they are featured in > a recent mailed > catalog, they are not available anywhere from Sears, > you cannot inspect > one anywhere, nor can you try out the software. > > I don't believe you can order one from them > either... or else you can > order one but they cannot deliver one. > > Weird. > > It looks like a great prop making device, but > without actually seeing > and playing with one... > > Anybody? > > Laters, > > Paul > ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:34:26 +0000 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Turnbuckles have their uses. References: In-Reply-To: Hey, turnbuckles are getting a bad press here. They may not have been suited to the application mentioned, but they do have their place. I use them to tension cross-arm support wires on outdoor lighting poles. A job they do with aplomb. -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 08:16:54 +0000 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: Carvewright References: In-Reply-To: In message , "paul.guncheon [at] hawaiiantel.net" writes >It looks like a great prop making device, but without actually seeing >and playing with one... 3D routing machines are pretty affordable these days. For reference, Elektor electronics (a European electronics magazine) just published a router project for a complete pro manufactured kit with all metal components and all PCB's pre assembled. Interestingly it uses standard hand held Dremel type tools as the cutting head. Also consider the cheap vinyl cutters with their "iron on vinyl" T-shirt options and the laser cutters that have also crashed to an affordable level. Here in the UK most schools now include computer aided manufacturing as part of their standard syllabus. They make fun projects to get the kids interested. -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4094.205.215.253.92.1168938381.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 01:06:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Turnbuckles have their uses. From: "Bill Nelson" > Hey, turnbuckles are getting a bad press here. They may not have been > suited to the application mentioned, but they do have their place. Certainly. It would be just about impossible to properly rig and tune a modern sailboat without them. I also use them in the top and bottom support wires for the show banner we fly on the front of the theatre. It makes the banner much easier to put up and take down. It might also be possible to justify them on dead hung pipes. Bill ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #1092 ******************************