Return-Path: X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 41381593; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 03:02:28 -0800 X-List-Processed: mail.prxy.net X-ListMember: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 41381094; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 03:02:12 -0800 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=ADVANCE_FEE_1,AWL, NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS,SUBJ_HAS_UNIQ_ID,TW_ZU autolearn=ham version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on localhost X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: List-Archive: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #1096 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 03:01:47 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #1096 1. Re: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: Stagecraft Drinks night NYC by Dale Farmer 2. Re: Re[2]: A Bit off Topic by "Tim Catlett" 3. Fwd: digi. projector by Stan Pressner 4. e: digi. projector by 5. Re: Portable Stages and Building Code by "RD" 6. Re: OT tshirts, CafePress, etc. by Scott Hartman 7. Re: OT: CafePress.com by Michael Heinicke 8. Re: Stagecraft Drinks night NYC by "Occy" 9. Re: Re[2]: A Bit off Topic by "Occy" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <45AEF172.70308 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 23:02:58 -0500 From: Dale Farmer Subject: Re: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: Stagecraft Drinks night NYC References:

In-Reply-To: Brian Munroe wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > On 1/17/07, Rigger wrote: > >> They have this clever invention called a "scissor lift," too. You may >> have heard rumors of their existance, over there in scenic >> Wherever-You-Are. > > I'm in that uncivilized part of the country that is west of 6th Ave > and east of the Erie Canal. A lot closer to 6th Ave. > > >> > Still sucks to load and unload all that weight. >> >> Hence my comment, bearing in mind the lift deck is at least a foot >> over head-high for me. > > All kidding aside (and I was kidding about the chain motors, > tone-of-voice is hard to convey in an email)... > > How high is the loading bridge? There must be an easier way to load > weight onto the bridge. Maybe forklift the weight into the scissor > lift first? Or how about a hole in the roof and a crane? Or maybe > some anti-gravity pallets? If they only made a "kneeling" scissors > lift, like the buses that lower to the curb. > > Brian Munroe > bpmunroe [at] gmail.com > > > How high up is your loading bridge? Equipment and person power available? If you have a large supply of cheap student labor, then pointing your fingers should be all that is needed. If you have a couple of people, and some winches/ chain motors, then a pair of power winches to temporarily turn a couple of the weight carts into weight elevators would seem possible. Of course, in an ADA accessable theater, there will be elevator or ramp access to the loading bridge and lighting catwalks. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 22:12:57 -0600 From: "Tim Catlett" Subject: Re: Re[2]: A Bit off Topic In-Reply-To: References:

Doesn't almost everyone have a similar story? My particular one is with the restoration/renovation of our theatre after some a-hole set fire to it. We used the local "faction" of Paul Davis Restoration as the General Contractor. Keep in mind that when I say "We" used, I do not mean to suggest that the theatre faculty had any say or sway whatsoever in the "who" question. Off list I'd be happy to elaborate if anyone cares to hear it. -- Tim Catlett Asst. Technical Director - Shorewood High School Drama Technical Director - Milwaukee Shakespeare Director of Outreach/Membership - ISETSA (International Secondary Education Theatre Health & Safety Association) Cell: 414.975.4424 EMAIL: catlett.lizardsdream [at] gmail.com On 1/17/07, Rigger wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > At 12:57 PM -0500 1/17/07, Frank E. Merrill wrote: > > > I got a call from my lead guy at 8:00 the next morning, asking me to > > verify where the curtains were to go. He had the drawings, and had > > the foreman standing next to him during the call, but there was no > > stage! Turned out the GC figured that I could install tracks and > > curtains while they were still pouring concrete and laying CMU, and > > expected me to protect the curtains by putting plastic sheeting over > > them! > > > Oh, Dan Culhane... Are you snickering here, too? > (yes, kidlets; we have a similar story....) > > -- > Dave Vick > rigger [at] tds.net > 20/20 Design > > There are nights when the wolves are silent, and only the moon howls. > ------------------------------ References: <394551F1-011A-4A91-8691-0E6CD92C3EB9 [at] aol.com> Message-Id: <64F91C27-C917-4F40-95BB-586FFE7B46F1 [at] verizon.net> From: Stan Pressner Subject: Fwd: digi. projector Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 23:24:59 -0500 Best, Stan Pressner Begin forwarded message: > Brian, > > I am saddled with all the title work for the Lincoln Center > Festival(light comes out the front, hence it must be lighting). > I have switched all of our titles to Keynote for the added > flexibility in fade times. The splitter you need will depend on > what you want to output, VGA, DVI, Component etc. I try to stay in > DVI for clarity's sake, but they all work. B&H is my preferred > source for fast and cheap. > Best, > > Stan Pressner > > ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: Subject: e: digi. projector Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 00:13:26 -0500 From: CB wrote: > Subject: Re: digi. projector > >> I have heard good things about Keynote but not used it. But there are >> options in the windows world. OpenOffice.org has Impress which looks >> like a close replacement for power point and is free. > > Say what you will about Macs, but in the projection world you will > find > that less than five percent of operators tend toward macs. This is > probably due to the fact that less than five percent of the users tend > towards Macs, not an indication of the quality of one platform over > the > other. OTOH, ninety percent of the issues that come up with > projection > have the introduction of a Mac or some other presentation software > other > than PP involved, with the user not being familiar enough with their > hardware or software to make the transition. PP is a presentation > standard > the world over. I have a Mac and can boot windows if I want. Rarely want to. :) Seriously, I've used PP and Keynote for presentations to large groups. My quickie Spotlight presentation at the Apple Store was thrown together in Keynote in less time than it took to present it; mostly because Keynote is a simpler program and I don't get tempted (distracted) by various options and goodies. However, PP is stronger and more adaptible I believe. Keynote will run PP files, though not as perfectly as PP does. One particular strength of Mac over PC as regards PP is that Mac's PP can use Quartz to do an actual crossfade between slides - it looks great. But a PC can neither program that into a slideshow, nor can it run that fade. Something to keep in mind if you're putting together a PP on a Mac to be used by "whomever" on unknown hardware. But it looks damn nice when you know you're presenting it off another Mac. Cris Dopher ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "RD" Cc: brianedwardjames [at] gmail.com References:

Subject: RE: Portable Stages and Building Code Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 22:14:07 -0700 Message-ID: <002a01c73abf$7af24210$6501a8c0 [at] doom1> In-Reply-To: I would contact Bill Conner or Richard. Doom -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Brian James Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 8:13 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Portable Stages and Building Code For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Sounds great and thank you. We are located in Virginia Steve Shelley wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hi brian; > > 1. where are you? This might have an impact locally on unknown height > restrictions or past events. > > 2. I would call/write/pigeon bill sapsis. If he doesn't respond within > moments it must be because he's working for a change. 800-727-7471 > > 3. if you can't get through or want a second opinion I would suggest > mountain productions. Mr. jimmy evans is a prince and has saved my bacon > with his knowledge numerous times: 570-826-5566. If he is not available > there are many other folks who know what they know and what they don't know. > > Hth, > > shelley > > > On 1/17/07 9:11 PM, "Brian James" wrote: > > >> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >> --------------------------------------------------- >> >> I am hoping some one here might be able to help me out with an issue I >> am having with portable stages and how they relate to building code. >> >> Our local building code inspector has indicated that according to the >> International Building Code (IBC) all stages that are 30" tall or >> higher, must have railings around it do to the leading edge. Does >> anybody know of a part of the code that may contradict this requirement? >> Or if there is a section that exempts stages? I am sure the AHJ is >> competent, but I find sometimes the local AHJs are not always aware of >> (or have forgotten) code sections related to temporary installations as >> well as entertainment related issues addressed in the codes. >> >> I am working on an event that is planned to be done in the round, and >> do to the number of people and the tables and chairs we can not really >> afford to loose the intended height on the stage to meet the code, but >> we will figure something out if we have too. It just seems that there >> are a lot of portable stages higher than 30" used that are not railed >> off, so I have to question if there is a section of the code we need to >> look into, or is this just one of those codes that gets broken fairly >> regularly? >> >> I went to the library to look through the code, but it is a rather large >> thing that I am not real familiar with, so I figured I would see if >> there may be some insight available from the folks here as well. >> >> Thank you for any assistance you may be able to offer. >> >> > > ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <25EE7E99-5D06-4B7A-9EEA-69E6799DB3D4 [at] coldfilament.com> From: Scott Hartman Subject: Re: OT tshirts, CafePress, etc. Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 01:31:59 -0500 I'll echo what the gents below have all said about finding a local shop and getting to know them. That being said (and I hope this isn't out of line), my side business just happens to be a screen printing company in the Orlando area. I'll make a standing offer of 10% off any order to anyone from the list. Please feel free to contact me directly for any inquiries. I'll now return you to your regularly scheduled drinking - I mean programming. Cheers! Scott Hartman, President Vizual Voice Group, Inc. scott [at] vizualvoice.com Main:(321) 251-5175 Fax: (321) 251-5906 Cell: (407) 963-4438 On Jan 17, 2007, at 11:13 PM, Stagecraft wrote: > ------------------------------ > > Message-ID: > > Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:38:11 -0500 > From: "Brian Munroe" > Subject: Re: OT: CafePress.com > In-Reply-To: > References: > > Since the off-topic of shirts has come up, do any of the union > Brothers and Sisters on the list have a prefered source for union > clothing swag? My local is due for our tri-annual or so reordering of > swag and we are looking around for other vendors. > > TIA, > > Brian Munroe > bpmunroe [at] gmail.com > > > > Message-ID: <001501c73a94$4d62f450$0400000a [at] BRUTUS> > From: "Jon Ares" > References:

> Subject: Re: OT: CafePress.com > Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 16:05:02 -0800 > >> I would recommend checking your local yellow pages. About a year >> ago I did >> a ton of research to find deals on t-shirts for our student >> organization >> and found that most online places charged $3 to $5 more per shirt on >> average, had longer processing times, and had less design >> flexibility than >> the 5 or 6 local places that I talked to. > > Go local when you can. You get what you pay for, and the local > folk will > work harder to keep your business. > > That said, I won't go with the 'cheapest' local guy/gal. I've been > burned > too many times. (I've designed a LOT of shirts and other wear that > got > screen printed. In college, I was even an artist on staff for just > such a > company.) I've ended up using the same company for several years, and > price-wise they're in the middle of the pack to high, but the > quality is > excellent and worth it. > > The problem with most local companies is that they need a certain > minimum > before the price becomes affordable. Whether you need one shirt, > or 200, > they still have to make plates (one per color, front OR back). So, > the > local folk often can't get into the 'competitive' range until you > get into > the 20 or more shirt range. This is where CafePress.com comes in. > > I do not recommend CafePress.com for big-run stuff, but maybe, if > you only > want or expect a few orders, maybe it's the way to go. I've only > seen 3 > items that were from CafePress, and I didn't see any difference in > quality > as a decent 'local' job. Not that I examined closely, but I would > not have > noticed a difference between a CafePress printed shirt, and a shirt > done at > a good local shop, where there was an order of 200 pieces. (IOW, > it clearly > wasn't an iron-on transfer.) > > - Jon Ares > www.hevanet.com/acreative > > ------------------------------ > > Message-ID: <45AEEB66.909 [at] cybercom.net> > Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 22:37:10 -0500 > From: Dale Farmer > Subject: Re: OT: CafePress.com > References: > In-Reply-To: > > Michael Heinicke wrote: >> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > stagecraft.theprices.net/> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> >> I have seen several mentions of CafePress.com on the >> list over the past year or two. Can someone comment on >> the quality of their products? A similar company that >> I have heard of is SpreadShirt.com. Is anyone familiar >> with them and their quality? >> If anyone has opinions that they would like to share >> about these companies or any similar ones, I would >> like to hear them. Contact me offlist so we don't >> waste too much time. >> >> Thanks, >> Mike Heinicke >> >> >> >> > > The Cafepress stuff is all printed on demand. They use different > printing technologies for different things. Dark inks on light > colored > cloth are comparable to screen print quality, IIRC it is some kind of > super ink-jet printer that prints right onto the item. LIght > colored > inks on dark cloth require a much thicker ink, and still use the > iron on > transfers, which do not stand up well to normal wash and wear > treatment. > > If your demand is low, and sporadic, then cafepress is a very > convenient and easy option. For higher quantities for singular or > short > duration events, then finding a local vendor who can print them for > you, > and can reprint the sizes that you have run out of a few weeks later. > Building a longer term relationship with a local vendor is usually a > good thing. > > --Dale > > > ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 23:18:18 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Heinicke Subject: Re: OT: CafePress.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <311086.79218.qm [at] web82211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Jon Ares wrote: > The problem with most local companies is that they > need a certain minimum > before the price becomes affordable. Whether you > need one shirt, or 200, > they still have to make plates (one per color, front > OR back). So, the > local folk often can't get into the 'competitive' > range until you get into > the 20 or more shirt range. This is where > CafePress.com comes in. Thanks to all of the people that have responded to my questions so far. What Jon mentions is exactly why I am looking at CafePress.com. I want to do some designs for a couple of groups that I work with, but I don't want to mess with taking orders, minimum orders, reimbursement, etc. This way I can set things up and if 3 people or 30 people want to buy it, it's not a problem. Mike Heinicke ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Occy" References:

Subject: Re: Stagecraft Drinks night NYC Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 23:59:13 -0800 Last time we had move in loading bridge weight we used a swing stage to to get it up there. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Munroe" > --------------------------------------------------- > > How high is the loading bridge? There must be an easier way to load > weight onto the bridge. Maybe forklift the weight into the scissor > lift first? Or how about a hole in the roof and a crane? Or maybe > some anti-gravity pallets? If they only made a "kneeling" scissors > lift, like the buses that lower to the curb. > > Brian Munroe > bpmunroe [at] gmail.com > ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Occy" References:

Subject: Re: Re[2]: A Bit off Topic Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 00:18:59 -0800 The last Cinema (movie theater) complex we built that was that way, when we left 7 out the 20 houses, the concrete wasn't even yet done on the inside nor were there doors or windows installed as we walk out of the complex totally complete, screens hung, speakers in, side and rear curtains in, surround in tested and masking limits set. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rigger" > --------------------------------------------------- > > At 12:57 PM -0500 1/17/07, Frank E. Merrill wrote: > > > I got a call from my lead guy at 8:00 the next morning, asking me to > > verify where the curtains were to go. He had the drawings, and had > > the foreman standing next to him during the call, but there was no > > stage! Turned out the GC figured that I could install tracks and > > curtains while they were still pouring concrete and laying CMU, and > > expected me to protect the curtains by putting plastic sheeting over > > them! > > > Oh, Dan Culhane... Are you snickering here, too? > (yes, kidlets; we have a similar story....) > > -- ------------------------------ You are subscribed as stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net End of Stagecraft Digest #1096 ******************************