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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #1098

 1. Portable Stages and Building Code
    by "Bill Conner" <bill-conner [at] att.net>
 2. Re: Turnbuckles have their uses.
    by "Brian Munroe" <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
 3. Re: Telex Clear Comm
    by "Graham Wakefield" <graham.wakefield [at] gmail.com>
 4. Re: USITT 2007 Sessions
    by "Jon Lagerquist" <jon [at] lagerquist.com>
 5. Re: USITT 2007 Sessions
    by "Peter Scheu" <peter [at] scheuconsulting.com>
 6. Re: OT: CafePress.com
    by "RD" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
 7. Re: OT: CafePress.com
    by Stephen Litterst <litterst.stagecraft [at] gmail.com>
 8. Re: Safty Signage was:(RE: Student sues college over injuries  in accident)
    by Robert Johnson <rojohnso [at] cord.edu>
 9. Re: Safty Signage was:(RE: Student sues college over injuries  in accident)
    by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
10. First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?
    by "Scott Parker" <scparker [at] gmail.com>
11. Re: digi. projector
    by Bill Potter <bpotter [at] sps.edu>
12. Re: Safty Signage was:(RE: Student sues college over injuries  in accident)
    by "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>
13. Re: OT: CafePress.com
    by "RD" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
14. Re: Safty Signage was:(RE: Student sues college over injuries  in accident)
    by "RD" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
15. Re: Safty Signage was:(RE: Student sues college over injuries  in accident)
    by "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>
16. Re: Theatre and PAC Architects
    by "Ehrenberg, Steven" <StevenEhrenberg [at] LiveNation.com>
17. Re: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?
    by Stephen Rees <stephen.rees [at] fredonia.edu>
18. Subject: Re: digi. projector
    by Tony Tambasco <tambascot [at] yahoo.com>
19. Re: Safty Signage was:(RE: Student sues college over injuries  in accident)
    by "Johnson, Keith" <Keith.Johnson [at] EKU.EDU>
20. Re: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?
    by SS <cueonego [at] gmail.com>
21. Audience Seating
    by "Murphy, Kendra" <kmurphy [at] capecod.edu>
22. Re: Audience Seating
    by Stephen Litterst <litterst.stagecraft [at] gmail.com>
23. Re: Audience Seating
    by Stephen Rees <stephen.rees [at] fredonia.edu>
24. Re: Audience Seating
    by "Mt. Angel Performing Arts Center" <admin [at] mtangelperformingarts.com>
25. Re: Audience Seating
    by Stephen Rees <stephen.rees [at] fredonia.edu>
26. Re: Theatre and PAC Architects
    by "Mike Katz" <narishkup [at] gmail.com>
27. Re: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?
    by "deziner [at] theatreinthepark.com" <deziner [at] theatreinthepark.com>
28. Re: Was hand injury, now blade speed
    by "C. Dopher" <brooklyn [at] dopher.com>
29. Re: OT: CafePress.com
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
30. Re: LCD Projector Question
    by "Ken Romaine" <ken.stagecraft [at] gmail.com>
31. Re: Theatre and PAC Architects
    by "Tim Catlett" <catlett.lizardsdream [at] gmail.com>
32. Re: Safty Signage was:(RE: Student sues college over injuries  in accident)
    by "Storms, Randy" <rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu>
33. Re: Was hand injury, now blade speed
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
34. Re: The door noise
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
35. Re: Theatre and PAC Architects
    by "Steven Haworth" <sjh [at] idm.com>
36. Stagecraft Drinks night NYC
    by Paul Marsland <paulbmarsland [at] yahoo.com>
37. Re: Keynote vs PowerPoint
    by "C. Dopher" <brooklyn [at] dopher.com>
38. Re: digi. projector
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
39. Re: digi. projector
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
40. Re: Sussing Sound Buzz when lighting might be the culprit? 
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
41. Re: digi. projector
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
42. Re: Hey
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
43. Re: digi. projector
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
44. Re: Sussing Sound Buzz when lighting might be the culprit?
    by "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>
45. Re: Hey
    by Stephen Litterst <litterst.stagecraft [at] gmail.com>
46. Re: foam sculpting
    by "richard j. archer" <rja10 [at] cornell.edu>
47. Re: foam sculpting
    by "Brian Munroe" <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
48. Re: The door noise
    by Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
49. Re: The door noise
    by "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>
50. Re: Turnbuckles have their uses.
    by Maia Robbins-Zust <Maia.Robbins-Zust [at] williams.edu>
51. Re: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?
    by Andy Champ-Doran <doran [at] bard.edu>
52. Re: OT: CafePress.com
    by "Ken Romaine" <ken.stagecraft [at] gmail.com>
53. Re: Theatre and PAC Architects
    by "RD" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
54. Re: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?
    by "RD" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
55. Real bullet!
    by Clive Mitchell <bigclive1 [at] ntlworld.com>
56. Re: digi. projector
    by Rigger <rigger [at] tds.net>
57. Re: digi. projector
    by Rigger <rigger [at] tds.net>
58. Re: Theatre and PAC architects
    by MartySrq [at] aol.com
59. Re: digi. projector
    by Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
60. Re: Theatre and PAC architects
    by MartySrq [at] aol.com
61. Re: OT: CafePress.com
    by Rigger <rigger [at] tds.net>
62. Re: digi. projector
    by "Brian Munroe" <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
63. Screw sorting
    by Myself <artguy66 [at] gmail.com>
64. Re: Real bullet!
    by Stuart Wheaton <sdwheaton [at] fuse.net>
65. Re: Real bullet!
    by "Tim Catlett" <catlett.lizardsdream [at] gmail.com>
66. Texas Tech Fire
    by USITT UTA Webmaster <webmaster [at] usittuta.org>
67. Re: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?
    by Jim Hyslop <theatre [at] dreampossible.ca>
68. Re: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?
    by Jim Hyslop <theatre [at] dreampossible.ca>

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Message-ID: <009001c73bc0$6e49abf0$6a01a8c0 [at] BCA1>
Reply-To: "Bill Conner" <bill [at] bcaworld.com>
From: "Bill Conner" <bill-conner [at] att.net>
Subject: Portable Stages and Building Code
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 05:53:26 -0600

Brian wrote:

"Bill,
Thank you very much for your guidance I was able to find what I needed and 
we have started to work through the issues with the set up. It really helped 
just knowing just where to look in the code to find the needed information. 
Time is a bit tight on this project (isn't it always???)

I can not thank you enough!"



I'm glad I could help and I appreciate the feedback as it helps me in my 
work in code development.

Bill Conner ASTC 


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Message-ID: <b7aa28010701190354l384e4507x73844635e0359aa7 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 06:54:31 -0500
From: "Brian Munroe" <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Turnbuckles have their uses.
In-Reply-To: <list-41411971 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-41411971 [at] prxy.net>

On 1/19/07, Michael Powers <mptecdir [at] gmail.com> wrote:

> My point was that turnbuckles between a counterweight arbor and a
> house pipe baten with trim chains is a bad idea and poor rigging
> practice.

Not to mention a waste of money.  No arguements from me there.

Brian Munroe
bpmunroe [at] gmail.com

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Message-ID: <a92b34570701190615h40f6c383oa1e6d99342811997 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 09:15:13 -0500
From: "Graham Wakefield" <graham.wakefield [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Telex Clear Comm
In-Reply-To: <list-41412639 [at] prxy.net>
References: <3197283.1169178705058.JavaMail.root [at] m41> <list-41412639 [at] prxy.net>

We use the telex audiocom partylines system


On 1/19/07, Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] hglightingdesign.com> wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> I recommend the PI mini belt pack with vibrating alert.
>
>
> On 1/18/07 10:50 PM, "Dale Farmer" <dale [at] cybercom.net> wrote:
>
> > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> >
> > CB wrote:
> >> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Telex or Clear Com?  Clear Com's new beltpacks have a 1/8" hole that can be
> >> switched to via software.  <http://tinyurl.com/38rk4z>
> >> Chris "Chris" Babbie
> >> Location Sound
> >> MON AZ
> >>
> >> Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
> >> negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...
> >>
> >> Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > Production Intercom.   (clearcom compatible)  www.beltpack.com
> >
> >   --Dale (very satisfied customer of theirs)
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Herrick Goldman
> Lighting Designer, NYC
> www.HGLightingDesign.com
> 917-797-3624
> "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in
> light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS
>
>
>

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From: "Jon Lagerquist" <jon [at] lagerquist.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 06:25:03 -0800
Subject: Re: USITT 2007 Sessions
Reply-to: jon [at] lagerquist.com
Message-ID: <45B0643F.15753.2B2EF26 [at] jon.lagerquist.com>
In-reply-to: <list-41411181 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-41393627 [at] prxy.net>, <list-41411181 [at] prxy.net>

I do not use outlook so really have no clue. I would look for an 
import option.

Jon

> Jon, is there an easy way to move that information into Outlook?

Jon Lagerquist


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Reply-To: <peter [at] scheuconsulting.com>
From: "Peter Scheu" <peter [at] scheuconsulting.com>
Subject: RE: USITT 2007 Sessions
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:19:36 -0500
Organization: Scheu Consulting Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAFIzFiG12TU6sr87xtBG2l8KAAAAQAAAAEsasyy1SiUi92ROV+e/7lwEAAAAA [at] scheuconsulting.com>
In-reply-to: <list-41423844 [at] prxy.net>

>I do not use outlook so really have no clue. I would look for an=20
>import option.
>
>Jon
>
>> Jon, is there an easy way to move that information into Outlook?

Outlook has various import options, including Comma Separated Values =
(.cvs
files), or Excel files. I've found the .cvs files easiest to import, so =
if
you can convert/export the schedule to a .cvs file, that may be your =
best
bet.

But it is Windoze, so be prepared for a non-intuitive process that might =
not
work properly.

Peter Scheu

Scheu Consulting Services, Inc.
Syracuse, NY=20
www.scheuconsulting.com


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Reply-To: <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
From: "RD" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
References: <list-41363948 [at] prxy.net> <list-41375480 [at] prxy.net> <list-41392732 [at] prxy.net> <list-41409028 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: RE: OT: CafePress.com
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 08:27:20 -0700
Message-ID: <013f01c73bde$53a06eb0$6501a8c0 [at] doom1>
In-Reply-To: <list-41409028 [at] prxy.net>

I do. Doom 

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Dale Farmer
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 8:11 PM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: OT: CafePress.com

For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

RD wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> I am about to redo my Dr. doom tee shirts. Usually 100 at a time. People
> keep asking .... so there. Any recommendations. As you know, 4,000 of them
> wander around the planet someplace ...let me know. Dr. doom 
>   


   Dr. Doom tshirts???   I have to ask, what do you print on them?  You 
have a picture up someplace of one?

  --Dale


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Message-ID: <45B0E509.5070702 [at] gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:34:33 -0500
From: Stephen Litterst <litterst.stagecraft [at] gmail.com>
Organization: University of Delaware
Subject: Re: OT: CafePress.com
References: <list-41363948 [at] prxy.net> <list-41375480 [at] prxy.net> <list-41392732 [at] prxy.net> <list-41409028 [at] prxy.net> <list-41425565 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-41425565 [at] prxy.net>


>    Dr. Doom tshirts???   I have to ask, what do you print on them?  You 
> have a picture up someplace of one?
 > RD wrote:

 > ---------------------------------------------------
 >
 > I do. Doom

Are you going to share the URL, Randy, or do we need to guess?

:)

Steve L.
-- 
Stephen Litterst			Technical Operations Supervisor
litterst [at] udel.edu			Center for the Arts
302/831-0601				University of Delaware

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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 09:37:06 -0600
From: Robert Johnson <rojohnso [at] cord.edu>
Subject: RE: Safty Signage was:(RE: Student sues college over injuries  in
 accident)
In-reply-to: <list-41101664 [at] prxy.net>
Reply-to: rojohnso [at] cord.edu
Message-id: <004b01c73bdf$aca29370$6b79818a [at] THE6266>
Organization: Concordia College

Paul,

I would like a copy of this if you still have it.

Robert Johnson
Technical Director
Concordia College

(218) 299-3821
rojohnso [at] cord.edu  

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Paul
Schreiner
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 3:56 PM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: Safty Signage was:(RE: Student sues college over injuries in
accident)

For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

> Once you have your list, check out Sign Builder 2.0
> (http://tinyurl.com/968o7) for an easy way to make your signs.  I 
> think someone on this list posted about this site a while ago, and I 
> use it whenever I need industrial signage.

I've also got a Photoshop file of 4"x6" templates with selceted verbiage
that I put together about a year and a half ago..."Notice", "Warning",
"Caution", "Danger", and "Emergency" templates (IIRC) in standard colors.
It's about 375K zipped if anyone wants a copy.


------------------------------

Reply-To: <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
Cc: rojohnso [at] cord.edu
Subject: RE: Safty Signage was:(RE: Student sues college over injuries  in accident)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:47:52 -0500
Message-ID: <000801c73be1$2e2d9c90$6501a8c0 [at] Dell>
In-Reply-To: <list-41425927 [at] prxy.net>

I'd like it, too.

As a matter of fact, I'd be happy to host it on my website (with, of =
course,
appropriate credit) for people to download.=20

=20
> Paul,
>=20
> I would like a copy of this if you still have it.
>=20
> Robert Johnson
> Technical Director
> Concordia College
>=20
> (218) 299-3821
> rojohnso [at] cord.edu =20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf=20
> Of Paul Schreiner
> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 3:56 PM
> To: Stagecraft
> Subject: Re: Safty Signage was:(RE: Student sues college over=20
> injuries in
> accident)
>=20
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see=20
> <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>=20
> > Once you have your list, check out Sign Builder 2.0
> > (http://tinyurl.com/968o7) for an easy way to make your signs.  I
> > think someone on this list posted about this site a while=20
> ago, and I=20
> > use it whenever I need industrial signage.
>=20
> I've also got a Photoshop file of 4"x6" templates with=20
> selceted verbiage that I put together about a year and a half=20
> ago..."Notice", "Warning", "Caution", "Danger", and=20
> "Emergency" templates (IIRC) in standard colors. It's about=20
> 375K zipped if anyone wants a copy.
>=20
> --=20
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.0/639 - Release=20
> Date: 1/18/2007 6:47 PM
> =20
>=20


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Message-ID: <90d9c9980701190751i2025be4bwcff93baff8668b57 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:51:42 -0500
From: "Scott Parker" <scparker [at] gmail.com>
Subject: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?

Greetings Everyone,
it's time that I completely replace our first aid kit and I'm looking
for recommendations. This is one for our smaller shop space which is
basically an oversized closet attached to the blackbox theater.
Therefore, the size of the kit can be relatively small as long as it's
stocked with the appropriate selection of supplies.

Any suggestions as to kit item numbers and or suppliers would be most
appreciated.

-- 
Thanks and take care, Scott

	Scott C. Parker
	Professor/Technical Director
	Dept. of Performing Arts
	Dyson College of Arts and Sciences  [at]  Pace University
	Office/shipping: 41 Park Row, 1205F
	Mailing: 1 Pace Plaza
	New York, NY 10038
	212-346-1423  Fax: 914-989-8425

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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:52:38 -0500
Subject: Re: digi. projector
From: Bill Potter <bpotter [at] sps.edu>
Message-ID: <C1D65376.3A85%bpotter [at] sps.edu>
In-Reply-To: <list-41404023 [at] prxy.net>

Okay, I admit I'm a Mac fanboy, but here's what happened.

In 1997, Microsoft purchased $150 million in (non-voting) Apple stock and
promised to hold it for at least 3 years. MicroSoft promised to continue to
develop Office for the Mac for 5 years. Also Internet Explorer would be
shipped as the default browser on Macs.

As a side note, Apple had almost a BILLION dollars in cash reserves (yes, a
billion!) at that time, so I don't think they needed MicroSoft's investment
financially. There3's no doubt in mind that he public announcement was
certainly beneficial to Apple. (Although, it was a bit creepy seeing a giant
Bill Gates up on that screen.)

Bill Potter
St. Paul's School
Concord NH


On 1/18/07 6:15 PM, "Herrick Goldman" <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com> wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> 1. because $100 mill was a buyoff to keep mac in business so that MS
> wouldn't be ruled a monopoly.
> 
> On a different point: Trust me, don't try bringing a mac into an IBM gig.
> Some folks do care. Gates however is a realist.
> 
> 2. No one cares I was making that point.
> 
> On 1/18/07 5:15 PM, "Occy" <OneOccy [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
>> ---------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> 1. Why would Gates be mad if there was a MAC behind the curtain? Microsoft
>> sells more MAC software than all the other Mac software companies. Why do
>> you think Microsoft gave MAC 100 million when MAC was broke and 1/2 step
>> from closing the doors?
>> 
>> 2's. Even at the Intel show before the MAC-Intel or Intel-MAC there were
>> MAC's behind the curtain. Now who cares on either side?
>> 
>> 
> 


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Subject: RE: Safty Signage was:(RE: Student sues college over injuries  in accident)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:53:55 -0500
Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0731CEBF [at] exchange.rmwc.edu>
In-Reply-To: <list-41425927 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>
Cc: rojohnso [at] cord.edu

> I would like a copy of this if you still have it.

On its way...

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Reply-To: <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
From: "RD" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
References: <list-41363948 [at] prxy.net> <list-41375480 [at] prxy.net> <list-41392732 [at] prxy.net> <list-41409028 [at] prxy.net> <list-41425565 [at] prxy.net> <list-41425754 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: RE: OT: CafePress.com
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 09:02:18 -0700
Message-ID: <001801c73be3$324de850$6501a8c0 [at] doom1>
In-Reply-To: <list-41425754 [at] prxy.net>

No guessing. You have one of the shirts do you knot? You know how utterly
simple I am, no changes, just Health, Safety, Risk Management, et al. Doom 

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Stephen
Litterst
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 8:35 AM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: OT: CafePress.com

For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------


>    Dr. Doom tshirts???   I have to ask, what do you print on them?  You 
> have a picture up someplace of one?
 > RD wrote:

 > ---------------------------------------------------
 >
 > I do. Doom

Are you going to share the URL, Randy, or do we need to guess?

:)

Steve L.
-- 
Stephen Litterst			Technical Operations Supervisor
litterst [at] udel.edu			Center for the Arts
302/831-0601				University of Delaware


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Reply-To: <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
From: "RD" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
Cc: rojohnso [at] cord.edu
References: <list-41101664 [at] prxy.net> <list-41425927 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: RE: Safty Signage was:(RE: Student sues college over injuries  in accident)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 09:02:18 -0700
Message-ID: <001901c73be3$32bb9e40$6501a8c0 [at] doom1>
In-Reply-To: <list-41425927 [at] prxy.net>

Add doom to that list, if you would please. doom

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Robert
Johnson
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 8:37 AM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: Safty Signage was:(RE: Student sues college over injuries in
accident)

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Paul,

I would like a copy of this if you still have it.

Robert Johnson
Technical Director
Concordia College

(218) 299-3821
rojohnso [at] cord.edu  

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Paul
Schreiner
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 3:56 PM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: Safty Signage was:(RE: Student sues college over injuries in
accident)

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> Once you have your list, check out Sign Builder 2.0
> (http://tinyurl.com/968o7) for an easy way to make your signs.  I 
> think someone on this list posted about this site a while ago, and I 
> use it whenever I need industrial signage.

I've also got a Photoshop file of 4"x6" templates with selceted verbiage
that I put together about a year and a half ago..."Notice", "Warning",
"Caution", "Danger", and "Emergency" templates (IIRC) in standard colors.
It's about 375K zipped if anyone wants a copy.


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Subject: RE: Safty Signage was:(RE: Student sues college over injuries  in accident)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 11:10:38 -0500
Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0731CEEE [at] exchange.rmwc.edu>
In-Reply-To: <list-41426198 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>
Cc: stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com

> I'd like it, too.
>=20
> As a matter of fact, I'd be happy to host it on my website=20
> (with, of course, appropriate credit) for people to download.=20

Fab, it's on its way to you as well.

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Subject: RE: Theatre and PAC Architects
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:12:34 -0600
Message-ID: <AC9D1CEFA95C474CAEADED50E5380A29024528AA [at] LYVMAIL1.LYV.LiveNation.com>
From: "Ehrenberg, Steven" <StevenEhrenberg [at] LiveNation.com>




On 18 Jan  2007 MartySrq [at] aol.com wrote:

We went down this thread a few years ago but it seems ever current.
Having spent the last 5 years at a theater that was the poster child for
botched renovations I can't say too loudly how critical it is to make
sure the consultant answers to you and not the architect. We had a very
good consultant and famous architect but the 2 BA of separation let a
lot of what were eventually agreed as design flaws occur. The theater
was in Florida, the consultant was in Chicago, etc.etc. Eventually it
went into litigation and we won a hefty settlement from the design
teams' insurance carriers. Many questions, concerns and the like seemed
to fall thru the cracks and I truly believe had the consultant answered
to the end user a lot of problems would have never occurred. Maybe it's
a control issue - if someone is going to ignore you and that person
works for someone else or the firm you've hired doesn't accurately
convey information to a firm they've hired there ain't a lot you can do
except to point to the blood and guts after the massacree and hope to
find someone with pockets deep enough to sue. Of course by then the
concrete has hardened up pretty good.
The other thing I've learned from building a theater (7 so far) is that
unless all the subs have previous experience in building a theater
expect at least one will go belly up.
Wanna start the division 11/16 discussion again?
Marty

Marty - Some interesting points here. I have a few Theatres and PACs
under my belt as well, usually as the owner's rep or some version of
that position. I have found that the Consultant almost invariably works
for the architect, which is as it should be. It is the Architects job to
manage all of the aspects of the building planning and design and the
consultant must be a huge part of this process working very closely
together with the architect, all  the design consultants (mechanical,
structural, acoustical, electrical, etc.) and most importantly with you
(the owner/end user). As soon as you get the slightest inkling that
there is anything other then the smooth transfer of information
happening - that is when the flags should start flying, and the whistles
should start to sound.  Litigation solves nothing except how the
attorneys are going to afford that Ivy League education for their kids.
Also as you state above "Of course by then the concrete has hardened up
pretty good", it is way too late to help the building. Yell, scream,
jump up and down, call meetings, ask questions and do not stop until you
are satisfied that you have answers.
What makes for a good building is a good team, and what makes a good
architect or consultant is that they listen, and are then willing to
engage in dialogue on the things in question. Find out early in the
process if you are being heard, and get your concerns on the table. Be
sure you can read the documents accurately, and then read them, read
them, be sure you read them all, and then have another look, trust me
you will still miss things. It is far easier to get things adjusted in
the document phase. Once the work starts the issues of change orders,
schedule and - TA-DAH - Money make it far harder to get anything
changed. Once the work starts, walk the site as often as possible,
become the construction supervisor's best friend (and biggest PITA) try
and keep an eye on everything, ask questions, be as involved as
possible.  Beware of the "Value engineering" phase - but that is a whole
different post, and this is way to long already. Those pesky sprinkler
pipes and duct work can really play havoc with your fly space for years
to come, and if you don't have enough seats in the women's bathrooms you
will never get the audience back into the theatre in a fifteen minute
intermission. I wish I could say that all the buildings I have been
involved with are flawless, but that is not the case. I think you have
to buy me drinks, to find out the specifics of that statement. Monday
night will be an excellent opportunity, I'm planning on being there
Herrick!

Sorry for the Long-winded posting,
Steven=20


Steven Ehrenberg=20
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Live Nation / Broadway Across America=20
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Mobile 917 331 0207=20



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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 11:12:10 -0500
Subject: Re: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?
From: Stephen Rees <stephen.rees [at] fredonia.edu>
Message-ID: <C1D6580A.62D1%stephen.rees [at] fredonia.edu>
In-Reply-To: <list-41426307 [at] prxy.net>

Scott,
You will find a large selection at the Northern Safety Co., Inc., a company
that I have come to like a lot.  Very good pricing and fast shipping.

www.northernsafety.com

BTW< They also have a custom signage ordering set up as well

Regards,
Steve 
On 1/19/07 10:51 AM, "Scott Parker" <scparker [at] gmail.com> wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Greetings Everyone,
> it's time that I completely replace our first aid kit and I'm looking
> for recommendations. This is one for our smaller shop space which is
> basically an oversized closet attached to the blackbox theater.
> Therefore, the size of the kit can be relatively small as long as it's
> stocked with the appropriate selection of supplies.
> 
> Any suggestions as to kit item numbers and or suppliers would be most
> appreciated.


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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 08:13:08 -0800 (PST)
From: Tony Tambasco <tambascot [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: Subject: Re: digi. projector
Message-ID: <408839.51254.qm [at] web50704.mail.yahoo.com>

>I have heard good things about Keynote but not used
it. But there are 
>options in the windows world. OpenOffice.org has
Impress which looks 
>like a close replacement for power point and is free.

and...

>Power Point has one great  advantage that none of
these >have.  There are millions of people scattered
all over >the planet that know how to use it, and can
replace your >entire projection staff and computer if
you just keep
>the show on a spare flash drive with you.

It might be sticking the proverbial shirt sleeve in
front of the proverbial saw, but I've never known a
projection operator to have a problem figuring out how
to use Open Office Impress when I've stuck it in front
of them, and I'm talking senior level undergrads at
best. I can't imagine that more experienced
projectionists wouldn't be able to pick it up.

When I back up a presentation, I make sure to back up
the presentation, the fonts, images, etc, but the
truly great advantage to Open Office is that if the
computer I'm about to run it off of doesn't have it,
it's easily enough downloaded and installed, no
license fees or software piracy required. With cheap
flash drives pushing a few GB these days, backing up
OO isn't out of the question either (makes note to
satisfy future obsessive-compulsions).

Then again, I'm also an open source zealot, so I have
a little bit of bias in that direction :)

Tony Tambasco
email: tambascot [at] yahoo.com
cell: 716-450-8148


 
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Subject: RE: Safty Signage was:(RE: Student sues college over injuries  in accident)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 11:15:35 -0500
Message-ID: <2175145D8764B145B932DA9D45DE6C4802C0332F [at] FACSTAFF.facultystaff.eku.edu>
In-Reply-To: <list-41426407 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-41425927 [at] prxy.net> <list-41426407 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Johnson, Keith" <Keith.Johnson [at] EKU.EDU>
Cc: rojohnso [at] cord.edu
Cc: pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu (Paul Schreiner)

I would likewise like a copy,  Thanks

Keith W. Johnson
Designer/Technical Director
EKU Theatre
306 Campbell Building
Eastern Kentucky University
521 Lancaster Avenue
Richmond, KY  40475
phone: (859) 622-1321

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Paul
Schreiner
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 10:54 AM
To: Stagecraft
Cc: rojohnso [at] cord.edu
Subject: Re: Safty Signage was:(RE: Student sues college over injuries
in accident)

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> I would like a copy of this if you still have it.

On its way...

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Message-ID: <8231e7ea0701190832u7cf77080h7b8c7ce92c62b155 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 11:32:43 -0500
From: SS <cueonego [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?
In-Reply-To: <list-41426949 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-41426307 [at] prxy.net> <list-41426949 [at] prxy.net>

>>>it's time that I completely replace our first aid kit and I'm
looking for recommendations..
Any suggestions as to kit item numbers and or suppliers would be most
appreciated.<<<

>>>> You will find a large selection at the Northern Safety Co., Inc.<<<<

Scott, you could also try:  http://www.conney.com/   or   http://zeemedical.com/
I've used both of them before (different places of employment). Can't
recall off the top of my head which kits we bought, sorry. But they
are both reasonable to deal with. Zee was a little more prompt on
shipping.

HTH. Good luck and happy shopping.

-SS
TTS-EKU
"I once prayed to god for a bike, but quickly found out he didn't work
that way...so I stole a bike and prayed for his forgiveness"

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Subject: Audience Seating
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 11:41:14 -0500
Message-ID: <56439B09A4ADDC46876BDFF2BBD35DF006900F7C [at] ex1.capecod.edu>
From: "Murphy, Kendra" <kmurphy [at] capecod.edu>


Hello All,

We just found out recently that our black box theater doesn't follow
building codes to allow for larger audience seating. We have always had
a flexible layout for the audience, but now they tell us that it needs
to be fixed seating to allow for the higher capacity.=20

Does anyone now if there is any type of seating that can be locked down
in some way, but also removable?=20

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Message-ID: <45B0F866.3050805 [at] gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 11:57:10 -0500
From: Stephen Litterst <litterst.stagecraft [at] gmail.com>
Organization: University of Delaware
Subject: Re: Audience Seating
References: <list-41427752 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-41427752 [at] prxy.net>

Murphy, Kendra wrote:
> ---------------------------------------------------

> We just found out recently that our black box theater doesn't follow
> building codes to allow for larger audience seating. We have always had
> a flexible layout for the audience, but now they tell us that it needs
> to be fixed seating to allow for the higher capacity. 
> 
> Does anyone now if there is any type of seating that can be locked down
> in some way, but also removable? 

Clarin makes a line of chairs that lock together via a common armrest.

I would also discuss with the code officials what they would allow -- I 
have had officials be satisfied with the seats being fastened together 
with zip-ties.  It holds them together well, but can be separated easily 
at strike with a pair of diagonal cutters.

Steve L.
-- 
Stephen Litterst			Technical Operations Supervisor
litterst [at] udel.edu			Center for the Arts
302/831-0601				University of Delaware

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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 11:56:53 -0500
Subject: Re: Audience Seating
From: Stephen Rees <stephen.rees [at] fredonia.edu>
Message-ID: <C1D66285.62E3%stephen.rees [at] fredonia.edu>
In-Reply-To: <list-41427752 [at] prxy.net>

Kendra,
In many jurisdictions, individual seating that is designed to interlock with
an adjacent seat meets this requirement without being physically attached to
the floor.  I don't know who the "they" are (is?) but you should investigate
what "Fixed" means in whatever code is being used.
HTH,
Steve Rees
SUNY-Fredonia


On 1/19/07 11:41 AM, "Murphy, Kendra" <kmurphy [at] capecod.edu> wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> We just found out recently that our black box theater doesn't follow
> building codes to allow for larger audience seating. We have always had
> a flexible layout for the audience, but now they tell us that it needs
> to be fixed seating to allow for the higher capacity.
> 
> Does anyone now if there is any type of seating that can be locked down
> in some way, but also removable? 


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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 08:58:59 -0800
From: "Mt. Angel Performing Arts Center" <admin [at] mtangelperformingarts.com>
Subject: Re: Audience Seating
In-reply-to: <list-41427752 [at] prxy.net>
Message-id: <45B0F8D3.6090002 [at] mtangelperformingarts.com>
References: <list-41427752 [at] prxy.net>

Murphy, Kendra wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Hello All,
>
> We just found out recently that our black box theater doesn't follow
> building codes to allow for larger audience seating. We have always had
> a flexible layout for the audience, but now they tell us that it needs
> to be fixed seating to allow for the higher capacity. 
>
> Does anyone now if there is any type of seating that can be locked down
> in some way, but also removable? 
>
>   
I'm not sure if this would work in your situation, but when we had the 
AHJ pass through our space he wanted the portable seating (at that time, 
folding chairs) strapped together in 3's or 4's to qualify as 'fixed 
seating'.

We just hooked the seats together with nylon cable ties to make 'fixed 
seating units' that satisfied him. I have no idea if there's an 
applicable fire code reference or not and I'm not about to poke that 
sleeping dog again... You didn't hear it from me!

Carla

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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 11:59:13 -0500
Subject: Re: Audience Seating
From: Stephen Rees <stephen.rees [at] fredonia.edu>
Message-ID: <C1D66311.62E6%stephen.rees [at] fredonia.edu>
In-Reply-To: <list-41428195 [at] prxy.net>

Kendra,
This is a thing our custodial services do when temporary seating is placed
in our fieldhouse for graduation ceremonies.  It is deemed acceptable by our
AHJ.
Steve R


On 1/19/07 11:57 AM, "Stephen Litterst" <litterst.stagecraft [at] gmail.com>
wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Murphy, Kendra wrote:
>> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
>> We just found out recently that our black box theater doesn't follow
>> building codes to allow for larger audience seating. We have always had
>> a flexible layout for the audience, but now they tell us that it needs
>> to be fixed seating to allow for the higher capacity.
>> 
>> Does anyone now if there is any type of seating that can be locked down
>> in some way, but also removable?
> 
> Clarin makes a line of chairs that lock together via a common armrest.
> 
> I would also discuss with the code officials what they would allow -- I
> have had officials be satisfied with the seats being fastened together
> with zip-ties.  It holds them together well, but can be separated easily
> at strike with a pair of diagonal cutters.
> 
> Steve L.


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Message-ID: <7cd95e180701190901s3bd3ebb7m1138b7bcfa5a4ebc [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 12:01:59 -0500
From: "Mike Katz" <narishkup [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Theatre and PAC Architects
In-Reply-To: <list-41426918 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-41426918 [at] prxy.net>

I have to respectfully disagree that it is proper for the consultant
to work for the architect and not the end user. It is true that
currently the architect usually hire the consultant, but I think that
that is the wrong way around for a number of reasons.

1. The end user needs must be balanced against the architects desires
for a pretty building. too often the pretty building trumps the
working theater machine.
2. Most Architects do not have the experience in theater that most
good Consultants have. The theater machine needs to be negotiated
between equals not between a Boss & his staff to make a good space
that looks good & works.
3. the current arrangement borders on the immoral in my mind since
most architects are paid on a percentage of costs contract.  I have
seen many over specified theater with all the latest toys with no one
qualified to use or maintain them.  The easiest way to run up the cost
of the project without any hard work is to toss in inappropriate high
priced equipment.
I think the theater community would be better served by consultants
who work for us, and have the power to work with the architects as an
equal partner in the team.
Mike

snip
> I have found that the Consultant almost invariably works
> for the architect, which is as it should be.
-- 
Mike Katz
Technical Director
MIT Theater Arts
617.253.0824

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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 12:14:23 -0500
Subject: Re: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?
From: "deziner [at] theatreinthepark.com" <deziner [at] theatreinthepark.com>
Message-ID: <C1D6669F.11391%deziner [at] theatreinthepark.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-41427518 [at] prxy.net>

We have two large Zee first aid kits.  Their
rep comes around once a month to service the
kits.

Steve

> From: SS <cueonego [at] gmail.com>
> Reply-To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 11:32:43 -0500
> To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
> Subject: Re: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?
> 
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
>>>> it's time that I completely replace our first aid kit and I'm
> looking for recommendations..
> Any suggestions as to kit item numbers and or suppliers would be most
> appreciated.<<<
> 
>>>>> You will find a large selection at the Northern Safety Co., Inc.<<<<
> 
> Scott, you could also try:  http://www.conney.com/   or
> http://zeemedical.com/
> I've used both of them before (different places of employment). Can't
> recall off the top of my head which kits we bought, sorry. But they
> are both reasonable to deal with. Zee was a little more prompt on
> shipping.
> 
> HTH. Good luck and happy shopping.
> 
> -SS
> TTS-EKU
> "I once prayed to god for a bike, but quickly found out he didn't work
> that way...so I stole a bike and prayed for his forgiveness"


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References: <list-41417881 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <7AD519D1-7EE0-4593-B2DC-7F18276626F8 [at] dopher.com>
From:	"C. Dopher" <brooklyn [at] dopher.com>
Subject: Re: Was hand injury, now blade speed
Date:	Fri, 19 Jan 2007 12:37:13 -0500

CB wrote:


>
>> and probably a whole bunch of things I missed.
>> I would guestimate closer to 750ms to 1 second to clear the machine,
>> IF one was being attentive.
>
> Next time you get a physical, take your stopwatch and time the  
> interval
> between the strike of that lil' rubber hammer and your toe kicking  
> forward
> (monosynaptic reflex arc). Not only is it less than 750 ms, it's  
> going to
> be less (if it's in the 'normal' range) than 250 ms.  These are the
> reactions that have been keeping humanids safe for thousands of years,
> brain anomolies notwithstanding.  The raison d'etre for the  
> monosynaptic
> reflex arc is it's much accelerated response time, somewhere in teh
> vicinity of 10 to 100 ms, with an average response around 50ms!   
> What's the
> speed of the saw at 50 ms?

I shouldn't need to point this out, but... we all learned in seventh  
grade biology the difference between reflexes, such as the knee jerk  
and eye blink, which are impulses processes at the spinal cord or  
before, and reactions, which are processes in the brain, such as  
seeing brake lights and stomping the pedal or hearing a motor and  
jerking your arm away.

Sorry, Chris, but I think you've lost this this one.  The general  
consensus is that human reaction times are not enough to save one's  
limb given the circumstances of the case that sparked this  
conversation.  Until you show up at USITT with a chopsaw, a  
blindfold, and a waiver (we'll provide the ambulance), your arguments  
will be for naught.

I'll buy you a drink at drinks night to console you.

Cris Dopher


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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070119101258.00c86ed0 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:12:58
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: RE: OT: CafePress.com

>I am about to redo my Dr. doom tee shirts. Usually 100 at a time.

As you can probably guess, my T-shirt collecton, er, wardrobe, is quite
large, with quite a few choices.  The T has to be quite special to get
added to the queue. I'm in, let me know where the money goes and who gets
my mailing addy!
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012

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Message-ID: <ce2084ad0701190955y5cb8e1d3j26733c4a662912a [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 12:55:45 -0500
From: "Ken Romaine" <ken.stagecraft [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: LCD Projector Question
In-Reply-To: <list-41313665 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-41313665 [at] prxy.net>

Robert:

My name is Ken, and I'm a Barco salesman.

ALL:  Hi, Ken.

Now that that's out of the way - some thoughts on your question.

The size of the projected image matters as much as the throw distance.
 (Steve Litterst is right on, as usual.)
Jason Salvatori's comment about the imagery you're projecting is also
spot on.  How much white is in your images?  Just like needing more
lights for a wash of R83 than for R33.
As long as we're discussing type of imagery, you also need to consider
the resolution of the projector.  Video is generally less demanding
than data - especially if you want to compare a DVD movie to an Excel
spreadsheet with tiny fonts.  So, you need to know how detailed your
images are going to be.
While we're at it - how much light is the LCD projector you have
access to actually putting out?  LCD projectors (like all projectors)
put out less light as they get older.  In the LCD world, this is
because of many factors, including lamp life and the fact that LCD
panels degrade with age.  So your 1600 lumen projector, unless really
new with a new lamp, is probably putting out less that 1300 lumens,
and maybe less than 1000.

There are other factors to consider, but these are the highlights.
Please feel free to contact me off-list for more information and
suggestions.  I have several.  (Who'd-a thought?)

Oh yeah - one last thing.  What Herrick said.  The brightest you can
afford is always a good place to start.

-- 
Ken Romaine
Business Development Manager
Barco Media & Entertainment
The opinions expressed here are mine - all mine - no matter how
much I want to impose them on the rest of the world.

On 1/16/07, Robert Graham <photonguide [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm designing a dance show, and the choreographer/director would like
> to use projected imagery via an LCD projector.
>
> I'm curious to know what the group consensus seems to be regarding
> the minimum intensity to project onto a darkened cyclorama against
> stage lighting? I know I can get my hands on a 1600 Lumen model very
> easily, but it's probably too dim.
>
> Having not done this in a while, I'm curious what the 'mainstream
> thoughts' are these days.
>
> Oh, and I'll be front projecting from a distance of 40' or so (NOT MY
> CHOICE!)
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> -Robert

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Message-ID: <c9f556360701191001jc2ce8dev2d0fbe9ca2a839ab [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 12:01:56 -0600
From: "Tim Catlett" <catlett.lizardsdream [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Theatre and PAC Architects
In-Reply-To: <list-41428410 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-41426918 [at] prxy.net> <list-41428410 [at] prxy.net>

Regarding architects and theatres...

It is my belief that any architect who is concerned more with a pretty
building than with the intended function of the building should be
taken out and summarily whacked with his own roll of plans. If the
architect does not understand that function should supersede form when
function is the primary purpose of the structure then they weren't
paying attention in archi school. Fire them and find someone new.

Likewise, if a theatrical consultant is on board then it is their
duty, not only to the client, but to the theatrical community as well,
that the theatre structure be functional primarily. Pretty carpet,
chandeliers, and brass water fountains do not a good theatre make.

I'll try not to rant further but I sure could, based on very recent
personal experience with irresponsible versions of architect and
theatrical consultant.

Anyway, back to your regularly scheduled work day...

-- 
Tim Catlett
Asst. Technical Director - Shorewood High School Drama
Technical Director - Milwaukee Shakespeare
Director of Outreach/Membership  - ISETSA (International Secondary
Education Theatre Health & Safety Association)
Cell: 414.975.4424
EMAIL: catlett.lizardsdream [at] gmail.com

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Subject: RE: Safty Signage was:(RE: Student sues college over injuries  in accident)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:08:21 -0800
Message-ID: <555928311F8B2943B65FC7197942C3B70B49AF4E [at] es1.bsdnet.wednet.edu>
From: "Storms, Randy" <rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu>

Add one more to the list, please!

Randy Storms, TD
Bellingham HS Theatre
rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu

-----Original Message-----

I've also got a Photoshop file of 4"x6" templates with selceted verbiage
that I put together about a year and a half ago..."Notice", "Warning",
"Caution", "Danger", and "Emergency" templates (IIRC) in standard =
colors.
It's about 375K zipped if anyone wants a copy.


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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070119105253.00c86ed0 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:52:53
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: Was hand injury, now blade speed

>Chris, you are confusing the reaction time of the autonomic lower brain 
>centers with the higher level cortical reaction time.  But, when you get to 
>the higher levels of "thinking", the times are much longer.

No, I'm not.  I'm saying that this is the reaction that will get the hand
out of the way, and the one that indicates serious issues if it's not
present, leading me to not want to work in a dangerous technical
environment withteh person that lacks them.
If you need to get to "higher levels of "thinking"" to keep your hand out
of a starting saw, stay out of the shop.
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070119105509.00c86ed0 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:55:09
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: The door noise

>Please tell me that some of you saw the Daily Show two night's ago where
>John Stewart Phoned Nimoy for his reaction to a congressman who compared his
>fellow reps to Vulcans and Klingons. Hi-Lar_EE-US!

I'd love to, but I hate to lie to you.  I fell asleep just before Bill
O'Reilly showed up on the Colbert Report last night, too...  Fortunately,
they re-run those fairly often.
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012

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Subject: RE: Theatre and PAC Architects
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 12:23:58 -0600
Message-ID: <5D5187063B6B8B46A99E8C0D36E0EB0901AAACBD [at] danube.river.idm.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-41430125 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Steven Haworth" <sjh [at] idm.com>

You know, having just been thru a rather painful building project
myself, I think the issue is that the architect usually reports to (and
is paid by) upper-level people - and those people don't fully understand
the technical aspects.  They judge the architect's work by what they can
see (the pretty stuff), and thus the architect works to please them
first.  They are usually the main contact person for the architect,
right?

So - I think it's not only the architects at blame.  I think part of the
problem is a business / contract model that's biased toward making the
pretty stuff overly important.

Seems to me the challenge is getting architects to listen - carefully! -
to other voices.  The upper-level's people challenge is thus to make
sure the architect does that, perhaps by contract and perhaps by just
'blessing' such other inputs.


- Steven      (sjh [at] idm.com)
---------------------------
http://www.stagelights.info


>It is my belief that any architect who is concerned more with a pretty
>building than with the intended function of the building should be
>taken out and summarily whacked with his own roll of plans. If the
>architect does not understand that function should supersede form when
>function is the primary purpose of the structure then they weren't
>paying attention in archi school. Fire them and find someone new.


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Message-ID: <20070119182330.37931.qmail [at] web52208.mail.yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:23:30 -0800 (PST)
From: Paul Marsland <paulbmarsland [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: Stagecraft Drinks night NYC
In-Reply-To: <list-41381081 [at] prxy.net>

I must have missed the OP in a past digest;

If you are looking to move a buncha weight to/from the
weight bridge -- when we raised our grid 39" (thank
you Phantom) we rented a device that looks like a
large extension ladder with a motorized wedge-shaped
metal basket on it.  It was a life saver; we moved
60-80k pounds of stageweights in under four hours each
way.  Not sure what this thing is called, but we got
it from a local roofing company.

Paul

> 
> Brian Munroe wrote:

and

> > On 1/17/07, Rigger <rigger [at] tds.net> wrote:
> >
> >> >  Still sucks to load and unload all that
> weight.
> >>
> >> Hence my comment, bearing in mind the lift deck
> is at least a foot
> >> over head-high for me.
> >
> > All kidding aside  (and I was kidding about the
> chain motors,
> > tone-of-voice is hard to convey in an email)...
> >
> > How high is the loading bridge? There must be an
> easier way to load
> > weight onto the bridge.  Maybe forklift the weight
> into the scissor
> > lift first?  Or how about a hole in the roof and a
> crane?  Or maybe
> > some anti-gravity pallets?  If they only made a
> "kneeling" scissors
> > lift, like the buses that lower to the curb.

And Dale wrote;

>     How high up is your loading bridge?   Equipment
> and person power 
> available?  If you have a large supply of cheap
> student labor, then 
> pointing your fingers should be all that is needed. 
> 
>    If you have a couple of people, and some winches/
> chain motors, then 
> a pair of power winches to temporarily turn a couple
> of the weight carts 
> into weight elevators would seem possible.  Of
> course, in an ADA 
> accessable theater, there will be elevator or ramp
> access to the loading 
> bridge and lighting catwalks. 
> 
> 
>    --Dale
> 
> 



 
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Message-Id: <FFF0151F-264B-4FAF-8E65-50146B17B5C4 [at] dopher.com>
From:	"C. Dopher" <brooklyn [at] dopher.com>
Subject: RE: Keynote vs PowerPoint
Date:	Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:22:41 -0500

Michael wrote:

>
> My creative guys actually disagree with Mr. Dopher here - we started
> doing presentations in PowerPoint (still the program I'm personally  
> most
> familiar with), but have found that the latest versions of Keynote
> provided them with a much wider variety of options for transitions,
> in-screen effects, and handling of multi-media files.  There are
> plug-ins to allow a lot of that to be done in PowerPoint (like the
> fades), but they're kind of clunky. =20

I'll have to revisit Keynote again.  Maybe I am also too Powerpoint  
biased.  I just upgraded from Office X to 2004 and am not liking the  
different Powerpoint at all.  I do like the compatibility checking  
feature, but I'm having a much harder time controlling transitions.

I do recall a couple of projects where, ultimately, it was just  
easier to export the PP to a Quicktime movie and run that with using  
the spacebar to pause the movie as needed.  didn't seem to make much  
of a difference from the audience end.

Cris Dopher


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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070119110749.00c86ed0 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 11:07:49
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: digi. projector

>1) I've done corporate stuff all over the world now. I've actually seen MORE
>Mac's than PC's.

I've seen more Macs show up, but theyare still out-numbered in the
Drug-Pusher and lawyer world, and folks who make their livlihood doing
corporate meeteing production still tend to be PC based.  
Someone gave me a Mac once (really nice guy IIRC) that was dead with the
caveat that I could play with it if I got it running.  I got it to (mostly)
work and tried like heck to get used to making it my new OS favorite.  I'm
destined to be a PC person, and I'm not something (smart? Intuitive?
Artistic?) enough to get Mac.  I need to see the wheels turn and the gears
mesh, I guess.  I did donate that Powerbook to a guy that does drafting on
it for a coupla schools and two or three small theatre companies doing
their set and lighting design.  He says 'Thanks!'

>2) if you have a "powerpoint guy" it is his job to be ready for ALL
>occurrences of "Oh by the way" stuff.

Yeah, right.  Kill the OBTW beast before it rears it's ugly head.  There is
no way to be ready for "ALL" occurences.  And this was before the DVI
output was popular, and we'd never seen one on a laptop computer before.
Having a guy get off a place with some proprietary software running his
presentation (and having him refuse any contact prior to the show) and
having his laptop fail when he arrives on the site and having his
presentation be scheduled for before his actual arrival is a set of
circumstances that no "powerpoint guy" is going to be able to deal with
well.  There are some shows that are so f$%*#d up that getting them done is
just about the beast that you can hope for.
Having done corporate stuff all over the world, I'd expect you to be
familiar with CEO's disease, "Of course we can do that.  Do you know who I
am?"  "It's Gravity Mr. CEO.  It's not just a good idea, it's the law..."
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070119114442.00c86ed0 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 11:44:42
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: digi. projector

> the most obvious isn't available
>which is a straight crossfade. In addition, the only fade times available are
>slow, medium and fast. 

Straight crossfade is called 'dissolve' and you're right, it sucks.  Fade
times of slow, medium and fast are probably adequate for titling, though,
ain't they?
There are far too many better products out there to do presentations on,
but there are far too few that have the ubiquity of Powerpoint, and that's
it's strength.  If you are simply doing white letters on a black
background, PP is your man.  Like I said, if you have the thing on a flash
drive, you're golden if you have sunk your show's computer in a bathtub in
Antarctica, as the Folks at McMurdo Station are PC based, and Office
200something is already loaded..
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070119115044.00c86ed0 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 11:50:44
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: Sussing Sound Buzz when lighting might be the culprit? 

>The perfectly placed sound at the perfect level will NEVER consciously 
>register with the majority of the audience.  That is, because it is what 
>is expected and  natural.  What will get their attention is the wrong 
>sound or the wrong placing or level.  Sound designers struggle not to 
>get noticed.

Bears repeating.  Right on the nose, Chip.  OTOH, there are rare instances
in which we do wish to get noticed.  I've designed cricket sounds, birds
chirping, and wind blowing as atmospheres in some plays, but if you were to
ask someone leaving the theatre about them, you'd have been told that there
was no sound in the show.  
I have also done set and scenic design, makeing the location and
'furniture' with sounds on a bare walled set, or a minimally littered stage.
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070119120508.00c86ed0 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 12:05:08
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: digi. projector

>If you have a quote-PowerPoint Operator-unquote, ostensibly devoted 
>to computer projection and nothing else, then why the hell doesn't he 
>have the Mac interface hardware?  Dunno as I'd call that 
>"professional," exactly...

'Cuz Mac interface hardware seems to change at the drop of a hat without
warning.  When the DVI showed up for the first time on the output of a Mac,
it was news to everyone, including the guy with the Mac with the DVI
output.  The next day, of course, we were prepared, having been given 24
hours to conform to a new standard.  I even have a DVI to VGA adaptor in my
kit now!
Had there been some great announcement that Mac was coming out with a new
standard that got out beyond the 'inner circle' I'm sure that he would have
been ready.
Please do not construe any of this as Mac-bashing.  I hate both OS with
equal fervor, and wish them both to die slow and horribly, and I use PC
only because that is the language I am familiar with.
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070119120859.00c86ed0 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 12:08:59
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: Hey

>Jeez, being from Arizona I'da thought
>you'd know the gunfight etiquette.

Martial Rule One:  Don't get stuck (hit, blown up, etc).
Martial Rule Two:  See Rule One.
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070119122122.00c86ed0 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 12:21:22
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: digi. projector

> Because that powerpoint operator is some local guy They have no control
over the gear, 

This is sometimes true, sometimes not.  There are some production companies
that bring their own computers and hire locally, some that hire the
operator with their computers (and rent the computers) and some that have
computers and a staff person that travels with them.  Some rely on the
folks the provide the gear.  The point being that if you bring a standar
PowerPoint presentation to any of these gigs with nothing more special than
some .jpg's or anything that WMP can handle, you are going to have your
presentation go as you planned it.  Fonts that come with XP will be a
no-brainer as well.  If you aren't in charge of making things happen, then
conformity will be your friend.

>Corporate conferences usually have a speaker ready room with computers 
>setup with the exact same software as the computers in the rooms. 

Yeah, these are usually empty, and guy with a lotta letters behind his name
is walking up at the last minute and blaming the op for not getting it
right, and calling HIM unprofessional.

Look, the whole point of this was that titling is a simple task, and that a
simple and ubiquitous program like PP should be the basis because it offers
the least amount of insurmountable scenarios when travelling.
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012

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Message-ID: <2066.205.215.253.125.1169239058.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org>
In-Reply-To: <list-41432642 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-41432642 [at] prxy.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 12:37:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Sussing Sound Buzz when lighting might be the culprit?
From: "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>

> Bears repeating.  Right on the nose, Chip.  OTOH, there are rare instances
> in which we do wish to get noticed.  I've designed cricket sounds, birds
> chirping, and wind blowing as atmospheres in some plays, but if you were
> to ask someone leaving the theatre about them, you'd have been told that
> there was no sound in the show.
> I have also done set and scenic design, makeing the location and
> 'furniture' with sounds on a bare walled set, or a minimally littered
> stage.

I don't know how many times I have had to convince a director that when a
character says "Listen. Hear the ....?", that the sound level of the ....
does not have to nock the audience members out of their seats.

I once did a light and sound design for a play where one scene was at an
ocean dock. I received many complements about the "realistic lighting". I
would bet not a single person noticed the seaport sounds that were at a
low level throughout that scene. I also am sure that my lighting would not
have seemed as effective without those sounds.

Many of my lighting designs are the same way. The scenes look like what
people expect - so they accept them as "right".

Bill


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Message-ID: <45B12E4C.5000206 [at] gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:47:08 -0500
From: Stephen Litterst <litterst.stagecraft [at] gmail.com>
Organization: University of Delaware
Subject: Re: Hey
References: <list-41433232 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-41433232 [at] prxy.net>

CB wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------- 
> 
> Marital Rule One:  Don't get stuck (hit, blown up, etc).
> Marital Rule Two:  See Rule One.

I see you've met my ex-wife.

Steve L.

-- 
Stephen Litterst			Technical Operations Supervisor
litterst [at] udel.edu			Center for the Arts
302/831-0601				University of Delaware

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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:50:35 -0400
From: "richard j. archer" <rja10 [at] cornell.edu>
Subject: Re:foam sculpting


List wisdom;

Suppose I needed a "bunch" of 8' tall statues for an awards 
show.--think Oscars or Emmy's but it's not either of those--where 
would I have them done?  Eventually needed in Northern Calif. but I 
suppose they could be done anywhere.  Could be smooth hard covered 
foam. CNC 3-D manufacturing?


Dick A
TD, Cornell U

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Message-ID: <b7aa28010701191326v106e30fdu35bcce46bab99119 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:26:17 -0500
From: "Brian Munroe" <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: foam sculpting
In-Reply-To: <list-41435498 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-41412263 [at] prxy.net> <list-41435498 [at] prxy.net>

Try Costume Armour in Cornwall, NY.  The are sculpting and vacuform specialists.

www.costumearmour.com

Brian Munroe
bpmunroe [at] gmail.com

On 1/19/07, richard j. archer <rja10 [at] cornell.edu> wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
>
> List wisdom;
>
> Suppose I needed a "bunch" of 8' tall statues for an awards
> show.--think Oscars or Emmy's but it's not either of those--where
> would I have them done?  Eventually needed in Northern Calif. but I
> suppose they could be done anywhere.  Could be smooth hard covered
> foam. CNC 3-D manufacturing?
>
>
> Dick A
> TD, Cornell U
>

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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 17:06:46 -0500
Subject: Re: The door noise
From: Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
Message-ID: <C1D6AB26.15E2F%Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
In-Reply-To: <17303670.1169232715359.JavaMail.root [at] m41>

Sadly the O'reilly thing fell flat. It was all hype.

On 1/19/07 10:55 AM, "CB" <psyd [at] cox.net> wrote:

> 
> I'd love to, but I hate to lie to you.  I fell asleep just before Bill
> O'Reilly showed up on the Colbert Report last night, too...  Fortunately,
> they re-run those fairly often.
> Chris "Chris" Babbie
> Location Sound
> MON AZ
> 
> Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
> negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...
> 
> Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012
> 

-- 
Herrick Goldman
Lighting Designer, NYC
www.HGLightingDesign.com
917-797-3624
"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in
light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS



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Subject: RE: The door noise
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 17:10:20 -0500
Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0731D1EE [at] exchange.rmwc.edu>
In-Reply-To: <list-41437645 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>

> Sadly the O'reilly thing fell flat. It was all hype.

Y'know, there's something cosmically...a propos about combining
"O'Reilly" and "all hype" in the same statement...

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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 17:12:38 -0500
From: Maia Robbins-Zust <Maia.Robbins-Zust [at] williams.edu>
Subject: Re: Turnbuckles have their uses.
In-reply-to: <list-41417881 [at] prxy.net>
Message-id: <45B14256.5050800 [at] williams.edu>
References: <list-41417881 [at] prxy.net>

Thanks to all for your replies to my question about using turnbuckles on 
chain hoist line sets.  I am glad to report that the PTB at the venue in 
question have agreed to the extra labor to remove them during the 
maintenance time.  It was also great to find that others share my doubts 
about using turnbuckles in rigging situations that could see shock 
loads.  I certainly use them to level scenery hung from battens, but 
such scenery is generally installed only for the limited run of a show, 
where as battens are there for the life of the building and who knows 
what kind of usage they will see over time.

Thanks again for all your help!

Maia Robbins-Zust
Technical Director
ETCP CR-T



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Message-ID: <20070119171928.5k5of7u00gwkogg4 [at] webmail.bard.edu>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 17:19:28 -0500
From: Andy Champ-Doran <doran [at] bard.edu>
Subject: Re: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?
References: <list-41426307 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-41426307 [at] prxy.net>

Scott,

Try this page:
http://ecommerce.conney.com/conneyc/hsrun.exe/Conney/aplusweb/StateId/RMXZpw=
ENCL0XRnZdtyne7E8NZZbKI-UHzv/HAHTpage/CatalogItemInfo?ITNO=3D36513&RECTYPE=
=3DIS

I'm a big fan of Conney Safety for a few reasons.  One is their =20
pricing.  Excellent compared to the other stuff I've looked at, =20
including the competitor whose company name begins with "Z" and ends =20
with "EE".  While Conney did not come in and do a "free" audit and =20
tell us what we need, they've always been pretty good at helping out =20
over the phone.  And they've never had a problem with us putting their =20
product in a competitor's cabinet, as some have.
They usually ship the same day or next day with the orders.  I have =20
had plenty of problems with stock at competitors, but these guys seem =20
to have (or can get today or tomorrow) what I need.

You do need to restock your own cabinets, but this has always been =20
good for us.  It didn't matter where I worked; here, Iowa, Texas, =20
Colorado, the story was always the same.  Zee would offer you a price =20
on the stocked cabinet, and even install it for you.  But then they'd =20
come in once a month or so and re-stock for you , adding and =20
subtracting product as they felt necessary.  The price on the =20
individual items always got higher, too.  And, no matter where I was, =20
if I told them to stop that and just deliver what I wanted when I =20
wanted it, they seemed to not have stock, and the delivery time got =20
longer.  They had a policy of not shipping, but rather having the =20
Sales Rep handle the product  and come out for another call.

Hope this helps,
Andy Champ-Doran
Technical Director
Bard College Departments of Dance and Theater
Annandale-on-Hudson, NY 12504
(845) 758-7962


Quoting Scott Parker <scparker [at] gmail.com>:
> Greetings Everyone,
> it's time that I completely replace our first aid kit and I'm looking
> for recommendations. This is one for our smaller shop space which is
> basically an oversized closet attached to the blackbox theater.
> Therefore, the size of the kit can be relatively small as long as it's
> stocked with the appropriate selection of supplies.
> Any suggestions as to kit item numbers and or suppliers would be most
> appreciated.
> Thanks and take care, Scott
> Scott C. Parker




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Message-ID: <ce2084ad0701191423q4c94f118l258b796525b016c4 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 17:23:11 -0500
From: "Ken Romaine" <ken.stagecraft [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: OT: CafePress.com
In-Reply-To: <list-41363002 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-41349863 [at] prxy.net> <list-41363002 [at] prxy.net>

I have a "WWFWD?"* golf shirt from CafePress.  Good service and good
quality for a good price.
-- 
Ken Romaine
Business Development Manager
Barco Media & Entertainment
The opinions expressed here are mine - all mine - no matter how
much I want to impose them on the rest of the world.

*WWFWD = What Would Frank Wood Do?  (Someone from this list is
responsible, but I've forgotten who.  Thank you, whoever you are!)

On 1/17/07, Rigger <rigger [at] tds.net> wrote:
>
> At 9:26 AM -0800 1/17/07, Michael Heinicke wrote:
>
> >I have seen several mentions of CafePress.com on the
> >list over the past year or two. Can someone comment on
> >the quality of their products? A similar company that
> >I have heard of is SpreadShirt.com. Is anyone familiar
> >with them and their quality?
>
>
> I've been quite satisfied with CafePress in the past, both as a buyer
> and as a seller. Good stuff, good printing, fair price.
>
> I don't know a thing about SpreadShirt.
>
> --
> Dave Vick
> rigger [at] tds.net
> 20/20 Design
>
>    Yet another smart-ass post that Mike Sachs won't see.

Whoever he is, too.

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Reply-To: <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
From: "RD" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
References: <list-41426918 [at] prxy.net> <list-41428410 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: RE: Theatre and PAC Architects
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:27:01 -0700
Message-ID: <00eb01c73c19$0f409c50$6501a8c0 [at] doom1>
In-Reply-To: <list-41428410 [at] prxy.net>

I am in 99% agreement with Mike. Too many years of experience with the big
boys and the small fry have convinced me that Mike is correct ....Dr. Doom 

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Mike Katz
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 10:02 AM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: Theatre and PAC Architects

For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

I have to respectfully disagree that it is proper for the consultant
to work for the architect and not the end user. It is true that
currently the architect usually hire the consultant, but I think that
that is the wrong way around for a number of reasons.

1. The end user needs must be balanced against the architects desires
for a pretty building. too often the pretty building trumps the
working theater machine.
2. Most Architects do not have the experience in theater that most
good Consultants have. The theater machine needs to be negotiated
between equals not between a Boss & his staff to make a good space
that looks good & works.
3. the current arrangement borders on the immoral in my mind since
most architects are paid on a percentage of costs contract.  I have
seen many over specified theater with all the latest toys with no one
qualified to use or maintain them.  The easiest way to run up the cost
of the project without any hard work is to toss in inappropriate high
priced equipment.
I think the theater community would be better served by consultants
who work for us, and have the power to work with the architects as an
equal partner in the team.
Mike

snip
> I have found that the Consultant almost invariably works
> for the architect, which is as it should be.
-- 
Mike Katz
Technical Director
MIT Theater Arts
617.253.0824


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Reply-To: <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
From: "RD" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
References: <list-41427518 [at] prxy.net> <list-41428858 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: RE: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:27:01 -0700
Message-ID: <00ec01c73c19$0f8f5890$6501a8c0 [at] doom1>
In-Reply-To: <list-41428858 [at] prxy.net>

Know what is exactly allowed in the kit by the employer, and by the
corporate owner. There are needs, true, but sometimes they are abrogated by
the requirement of the insurance company and the owner, i.e. what can be
used, what is necessary for the potential injury or incidents that may or
may not occur at your site. Doom 

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of
deziner [at] theatreinthepark.com
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 10:14 AM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?

For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

We have two large Zee first aid kits.  Their
rep comes around once a month to service the
kits.

Steve

> From: SS <cueonego [at] gmail.com>
> Reply-To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 11:32:43 -0500
> To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
> Subject: Re: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?
> 
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
>>>> it's time that I completely replace our first aid kit and I'm
> looking for recommendations..
> Any suggestions as to kit item numbers and or suppliers would be most
> appreciated.<<<
> 
>>>>> You will find a large selection at the Northern Safety Co., Inc.<<<<
> 
> Scott, you could also try:  http://www.conney.com/   or
> http://zeemedical.com/
> I've used both of them before (different places of employment). Can't
> recall off the top of my head which kits we bought, sorry. But they
> are both reasonable to deal with. Zee was a little more prompt on
> shipping.
> 
> HTH. Good luck and happy shopping.
> 
> -SS
> TTS-EKU
> "I once prayed to god for a bike, but quickly found out he didn't work
> that way...so I stole a bike and prayed for his forgiveness"


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Message-ID: <7TsnIdFvjUsFFwpw [at] ntlworld.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:40:47 +0000
From: Clive Mitchell <bigclive1 [at] ntlworld.com>
Subject: Real bullet!

Quoted from a posting by John Kennedy on the RATS group:-

No safety officer.

Actor-owned weapons.

Fully functional weapons.

Live ammunition on the same prop table with blanks.

Actors with no gun permits.

Underage actors.

http://tinyurl.com/34vbal

Oh. My. God.

-- 
Clive Mitchell
http://www.bigclive.com

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Message-Id: <p06230902c1d6fda4d46e [at] [192.168.0.2]>
In-Reply-To: <list-41412589 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-41404023 [at] prxy.net> <list-41412589 [at] prxy.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 18:00:59 -0500
From: Rigger <rigger [at] tds.net>
Subject: Re: digi. projector

At 10:17 PM -0800 1/18/07, Occy wrote:

>Not so right the FOH guys or SM and the LD did, in the IBM show, with every
>VP title one could ever come up with, that I did 2 weeks before LDI, as we
>had to have fix a few files for the video guys with Mac's, as the videos
>guys didn't have the proper software to fix the problems with their PC's, it
>was a sizing problem.


My Occy-to-English translator completely siezed up on this paragraph. 
WTF are you trying to say here?

-- 
Dave Vick
rigger [at] tds.net

   "No comment" is a comment.

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Message-Id: <p06230903c1d6fe6501a3 [at] [192.168.0.2]>
In-Reply-To: <list-41414201 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-41412714 [at] prxy.net> <list-41414201 [at] prxy.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 18:02:49 -0500
From: Rigger <rigger [at] tds.net>
Subject: Re: digi. projector

At 11:44 PM -0800 1/18/07, Occy wrote:

>When you learn just to read you'll never have a problem when you try to
>analysis it will take you for ever... The professor for my English 101 class
>( many years out of high school ) once took 6 hours trying to break up 68
>word sentence that I wrote in a required paper and said "I don't know how
>you can do it but you keep the subject and thought with the least amount of
>punctuation and be right every time."


So, just out of curiosity, what *is* your primary language?
Because it oviously isn't any form of English.

-- 
Dave Vick
rigger [at] tds.net

   "No one gets to Heaven 'til they've lived a while in Hell"
		--Dio, "Magica"


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From: MartySrq [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <c57.c842ce7.32e2a936 [at] aol.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 18:07:34 EST
Subject: Re: Theatre and PAC architects

Michael Brubaker wrote:
 
Not so much.
 
What are your thoughts on sorting screws?
 
Mike Brubaker
 
MartySrq wrote:
 
Wanna start the division 11/16 discussion again?
 
Michael I'm lost here. How does sorting screws relate to the the division  
11/16 whoopee? I'll skip the cheap pun about screws but I'm old and have had  
many.
 
Marty


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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 18:10:51 -0500
Subject: Re: digi. projector
From: Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
Message-ID: <C1D6BA2B.15E47%Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
In-Reply-To: <31667671.1169247968621.JavaMail.root [at] m41>

I think it must be Portugese, Welsh and Gaelic all in one.
For god sakes man! Speak English!! Or at least Pig Latin.

On 1/19/07 6:02 PM, "Rigger" <rigger [at] tds.net> wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> At 11:44 PM -0800 1/18/07, Occy wrote:
> 
>> When you learn just to read you'll never have a problem when you try to
>> analysis it will take you for ever... The professor for my English 101 class
>> ( many years out of high school ) once took 6 hours trying to break up 68
>> word sentence that I wrote in a required paper and said "I don't know how
>> you can do it but you keep the subject and thought with the least amount of
>> punctuation and be right every time."
> 
> 
> So, just out of curiosity, what *is* your primary language?
> Because it oviously isn't any form of English.

-- 
Herrick Goldman
Lighting Designer, NYC
www.HGLightingDesign.com
917-797-3624
"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in
light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS



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From: MartySrq [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <cbd.92debb7.32e2aa20 [at] aol.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 18:11:28 EST
Subject: Re: Theatre and PAC architects

Dr. Doom:
 
Another profession yes but why not go for the big money like plumbing or  Air 
Conditioning repair?
 
Marty

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References: <list-41349863 [at] prxy.net> <list-41363002 [at] prxy.net>
 <list-41438092 [at] prxy.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 18:14:41 -0500
From: Rigger <rigger [at] tds.net>
Subject: Re: OT: CafePress.com

At 5:23 PM -0500 1/19/07, Ken Romaine wrote:

>I have a "WWFWD?"* golf shirt from CafePress.  Good service and good
>quality for a good price.


Aha! So *you're* the one who bought it!  I've been wondering for years...

(yeah, it was my idea, reinforced by mr. leviss)
-- 
Dave Vick
rigger [at] tds.net

  "Please Sir", said Alice to the Mad Hatter in a quiet voice,
  "I should like to purchase a handgun while it is still legal."

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Message-ID: <b7aa28010701191552u58ef68afwb59a2829fc153058 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 18:52:13 -0500
From: "Brian Munroe" <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: digi. projector
In-Reply-To: <list-41439105 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-41404023 [at] prxy.net> <list-41412589 [at] prxy.net>
	 <list-41439105 [at] prxy.net>

On 1/19/07, Rigger <rigger [at] tds.net> wrote:

> My Occy-to-English translator completely siezed up on this paragraph.
> WTF are you trying to say here?

Now that is funny!  Almost did a spit-take with my soda.

Brian Munroe
bpmunroe [at] gmail.com

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Message-ID: <7b8450b90701191609xe30c7edk3d42c5125ac59541 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:09:34 -0800
From: Myself <artguy66 [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Screw sorting

>
> MartySrq wrote:
>
>> Michael I'm lost here. How does sorting screws relate to the the division
> 11/16 whoopee? I'll skip the cheap pun about screws but I'm old and have had
> many.
>
> Marty
>
>

Years ago, even before the hamster thread, long before Frank's
discussion on the US power grid, and a really long time before the
surtitle thread. There was a incessant thread on sorting screws. I
think it was when Brad had the list.  There might be something in the
archives.  A sample follows....

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Message-ID: <40CF0574.80806 [at] northnet.net>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 09:19:32 -0500
From: Shawn Palmer <shawnp [at] northnet.net>
Subject: Re: Braille Sign (Somewhat [now very] OT)
References: <list-3637230 [at] prxy.net> <list-3639245 [at] prxy.net>
<list-3639524 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-3639524 [at] prxy.net>


>>I can tie this (maybe :-) to stagecraft by saying this policy is how I
>>deal with my student workers.  Rarely do I have to (or want to) get any
>>parent involved.  I handle the discipline here.
>
>
> Why dont you have them sit in a conor counting sorting screws and let them
> think about what they have done.
>
> Mike

Oy vey :-)  Actually, I almost never have to discipline my paid student
assistants.  It's the "easy" credit seekers in the stagecraft classes
that are usually in need of discipline.  In that case maybe screw
sorting would work :)  Sometimes "Fs" or "0s" are effective.  Sometimes
not.  I am very genial until someone does something stupid (and usually
unsafe.)  Then the ugly monster comes out.  It may not be textbook
discipline, but it does work and I very rarely have to yell.

Shawn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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Message-ID: <45B16D24.1070903 [at] fuse.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:15:16 -0500
From: Stuart Wheaton <sdwheaton [at] fuse.net>
Reply-To:  sdwheaton [at] fuse.net
Subject: Re: Real bullet!
References: <list-41438540 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-41438540 [at] prxy.net>

Clive Mitchell wrote:

> Quoted from a posting by John Kennedy on the RATS group:-
> 
> No safety officer.

At least make one of the cast members the "armorer"...Dumb move.

> 
> Actor-owned weapons.

The weapons don't need to be owned by the theatre, in fact the law 
sometimes makes it hard for firearm not to be owned by a specific 
person, but during the period of time that the firearm is used in the 
production, it becomes the responsibility of the armorer and they have 
exclusive control over it.

> 
> Fully functional weapons.

I know I am in the minority, but with a real, open barreled weapon, you 
know exactly where every discharge goes, and it should be where the 
shooter is looking, so it is easy to ensure it is never discharged in 
the direction of a living person.  Real firearms also have a level of 
reliability that I find rare in prop weapons.

> 
> Live ammunition on the same prop table with blanks.
>

UTTERLY STUPID  x 1000!!!  Never should have been there, and certainly 
never should have been loaded.


> Actors with no gun permits.

Permit, shmermit, the issue here is lack of training and awareness.  In 
many jurisdictions, there are no 'Gun Permits".  Any actor who will 
handle a gun in a scene should have a clear understanding of the dangers 
and the safety rules pertaining to firearms on stage.

> 
> Underage actors.

Again, if they are old enough to be taught proper safety rules, this is 
a non-issue.

> 
> http://tinyurl.com/34vbal
> 
> Oh. My. God.
> 

Yep, advanced stupidity in so many directions.

I find it particularly absurd that the shooter loaded a .22 revolver 
without knowing that he was putting real bullets in it.  I have loaded 
thousands of rounds of real .22LR and never seen one that didn't have a 
lead bullet sticking out of the end of it, clear to all who passed by.

If he didn't know he was loading real live ammo, he was either clueless 
or homicidal, see above about training.

If there was adequate training, the gun would have been aimed at a safe 
target near the target actor, never at the human.

If live ammo was known to be in the 'theatre' and even on the prop 
table, why would any member of the 'cast' allow anybody else to shoot 
'blanks' at THEM?

This sounds like utter lack of discipline, inadequate supervision and 
training, and contempt for basic safety rules.

And sadly, everybody who uses guns safely will pay a price for this idiocy.

Stuart

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Message-ID: <c9f556360701191957t4fdce63fi1b4713b0dc23ed88 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 21:57:06 -0600
From: "Tim Catlett" <catlett.lizardsdream [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Real bullet!
In-Reply-To: <list-41441898 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-41438540 [at] prxy.net> <list-41441898 [at] prxy.net>

I especially love this line in the report:

"Last month, the federal Occupational Health and Safety Administration
fined the theme park $1,250 for creating a hazardous work environment
and recommended a safety officer be present during future shootouts.
Wild West City is contesting the fine. "

Summary proof that OSHA is a toothless tiger...AND...they are
contesting a fine which is so small as to be insulting to the gravity
of the situation. How interesting.

It is phenomenal to me that any of us are safe in our workplace at all
with OSHA actions like this being taken.

I agree with Stuart's end assessment of contempt for basic safety
rules and would add the charge of contempt for a whole laundry list of
other things as well.

-- 
Tim Catlett
Asst. Technical Director - Shorewood High School Drama
Technical Director - Milwaukee Shakespeare
Director of Outreach/Membership  - ISETSA (International Secondary
Education Theatre Health & Safety Association)
Cell: 414.975.4424
EMAIL: catlett.lizardsdream [at] gmail.com

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Message-ID: <45B19457.8070606 [at] usittuta.org>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:02:31 -0600
From: USITT UTA Webmaster <webmaster [at] usittuta.org>
Subject: Texas Tech Fire

On Wednesday, Jan. 17th shortly after midnight there was a fire at the 
Charles E. Maedgen Jr. Theater at Texas Tech University. Here are a 
couple of news articles on it.

http://tinyurl.com/2o9zj8

http://tinyurl.com/388drl

They don't say much in the way of how the fire started or if anyone was 
present when it did. The person who told me the story mentioned 
something about it starting near the master electrician's table and 
spreading via the curtains, but I would like to assume that the curtains 
were all properly treated to be fire retardant. Does anyone have any 
more info on this story?


Kyler Glaze
kyler [at] kylerglaze.com
http://www.usittuta.org/

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Message-ID: <45B194AE.5050406 [at] dreampossible.ca>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 23:03:58 -0500
From: Jim Hyslop <theatre [at] dreampossible.ca>
Organization: Dreampossible Inc.
Subject: Re: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?
References: <list-41426307 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-41426307 [at] prxy.net>

Scott Parker wrote:
> Therefore, the size of the kit can be relatively small as long as it's
> stocked with the appropriate selection of supplies.

Make sure you check if there are any legislative requirements as to the
minimum contents of the kit. I know Ontario specifies certain minima,
depending on the number of employees at the location. I don't know what,
if anything, New York requires.

-- 
Jim Hyslop

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Message-ID: <45B19569.5020704 [at] dreampossible.ca>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 23:07:05 -0500
From: Jim Hyslop <theatre [at] dreampossible.ca>
Organization: Dreampossible Inc.
Subject: Re: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?
References: <list-41427518 [at] prxy.net> <list-41428858 [at] prxy.net> <list-41438235 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-41438235 [at] prxy.net>

RD wrote:
> Know what is exactly allowed in the kit by the employer, and by the
> corporate owner. There are needs, true, but sometimes they are abrogated by
> the requirement of the insurance company and the owner, i.e. what can be
> used, what is necessary for the potential injury or incidents that may or
> may not occur at your site. Doom 

Question: what do you do if the law requires you to have a particular
item, but your insurance company requires that you cannot have that item?

-- 
Jim Hyslop

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