Return-Path: X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 41454312; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 03:02:52 -0800 X-List-Processed: mail.prxy.net X-ListMember: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 41453809; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 03:02:11 -0800 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on localhost X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=ADVANCE_FEE_1,AWL, NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS,SARE_LWSHORTT,SARE_MILLIONSOF,SUBJ_HAS_UNIQ_ID autolearn=no version=3.1.7 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: List-Archive: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #1099 Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 03:01:55 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #1099 1. Re: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models? by "Steven Santos" 2. Re: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models? by "Tim Catlett" 3. Re: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models? by "Steven Santos" 4. Re: Turnbuckles have their uses. by "Michael Powers" 5. Re: Audience Seating by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 6. Portable Stages and Building Code by "Bill Conner" 7. Re: Portable Stages and Building Code by "Tim Catlett" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steven Santos" Subject: RE: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models? Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 23:24:54 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: I stock my own. The following is a list of what I keep in my jump kits (large kits). This is a balance of being able to deal with virtually any situation, and being able to deal with what we commonly see without restocking every day, and without feeling like we need a packmule (intern) to carry it. We also use a color coding system, * = red items (use only if you know what they are and how to use it), ** = blue (rarely used, goes in the bottom of the kit), all others are green. The minor injury kit is in a ziplock bag at the top of the kit for easy access. Personal Protective Equipment: - 50-100 Neoprene gloves - 1 pair of goggles or a face shield - 1 disposable poncho (think: big trauma) - 5 face masks Durable Equipment / supplies: - 1 Adult BP Cuff * - 1 Child BP Cuff * - 1 Stethoscope * - 1 ear thermometer * (and 25 pack of covers - I work with kids) - 1 set of Trauma Shears - 1 set of bandage Sheers - 1 eye light * - 1 set of tweezers - 1 spring loaded center punch * - 1 Space blanket - Ink Pen, Note Pad and 5 copies of our accident form Airway Management Supplies and Equipment: - 1 Pocket Mask * - 1 face shield ** - 1 set of Oral Airways (OPA) * - 1 disposable Bag Valve Mask * Trauma Supplies: - 2 large trauma dressings ** - Box of 4x4's ** - Box of 5X9's ** - Box of other misc Gauze Pads ** - 6 Rolls of Cling ** (Curlex, Roller Gauze, whatever) - 4 triangular bandages ** - 3 rolls of medical tape ** Minor Injury Supplies: - Band-Aids, lots and lots of band aids of various sizes - 1 10oz bottle of Hydrogen Peroxide * - 20 alcohol wipes - 20 clean up wipes ("wet-naps") - 1 bottle of Eye Wash (6oz) * - 1 set of Liquid Band aid supplies * - 1 splinter kit * - 4 instant ice packs - 4 instant hot packs In my personal jump kit, I also carry the following: - 1 scalpel * - 1 syringe * - 1 epi pen * - 1 bottle of Aspirin * - 1 bottle of aloe * - 1 bottle of sun screen * - Package of 6 Glucose Tablets * - battery powered BP monitor - package of anti-itch wipes Hope that helps ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Steven Santos Director, Simply Circus, Inc. Email: Steven [at] SimplyCircus.com Mail: PO BOX 620753 Newton, MA 02462 Phone: 781-799-4938 eFax: 309-214-0899 Web: www.SimplyCircus.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Scott > Parker > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 10:52 AM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models? > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Greetings Everyone, > it's time that I completely replace our first aid kit and I'm looking > for recommendations. This is one for our smaller shop space which is > basically an oversized closet attached to the blackbox theater. > Therefore, the size of the kit can be relatively small as long as it's > stocked with the appropriate selection of supplies. > > Any suggestions as to kit item numbers and or suppliers would be most > appreciated. > > -- > Thanks and take care, Scott > > Scott C. Parker > Professor/Technical Director > Dept. of Performing Arts > Dyson College of Arts and Sciences [at] Pace University > Office/shipping: 41 Park Row, 1205F > Mailing: 1 Pace Plaza > New York, NY 10038 > 212-346-1423 Fax: 914-989-8425 > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:27:05 -0600 From: "Tim Catlett" Subject: Re: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models? In-Reply-To: References:

Law supersedes policy. It is really that simple. -- Tim Catlett Asst. Technical Director - Shorewood High School Drama Technical Director - Milwaukee Shakespeare Director of Outreach/Membership - ISETSA (International Secondary Education Theatre Health & Safety Association) Cell: 414.975.4424 EMAIL: catlett.lizardsdream [at] gmail.com On 1/19/07, Jim Hyslop wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > RD wrote: > > Know what is exactly allowed in the kit by the employer, and by the > > corporate owner. There are needs, true, but sometimes they are abrogated by > > the requirement of the insurance company and the owner, i.e. what can be > > used, what is necessary for the potential injury or incidents that may or > > may not occur at your site. Doom > > Question: what do you do if the law requires you to have a particular > item, but your insurance company requires that you cannot have that item? > > -- > Jim Hyslop > ------------------------------ From: "Steven Santos" Subject: RE: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models? Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 23:29:47 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > Question: what do you do if the law requires you to have a particular > item, but your insurance company requires that you cannot have that item? The law trumps the insurance co regs. Show the regs to the insurance co, they will change tune quickly. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Steven Santos Director, Simply Circus, Inc. Email: Steven [at] SimplyCircus.com Mail: PO BOX 620753 Newton, MA 02462 Phone: 781-799-4938 eFax: 309-214-0899 Web: www.SimplyCircus.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <58f67b0f0701192139l1811fda1x1f3d69af228af652 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 23:39:03 -0600 From: "Michael Powers" Subject: Re: Turnbuckles have their uses. Maia Robbins-Zust writes: <<............. I certainly use them to level scenery hung from battens,........>> As do all of us! Short term use such as individual productions or touring shows that inspect rigging between gigs are very legitimate uses of turnbuckles. Long term, static installations such as utility poles and such are very legitimate uses of turnbuckles. In house rigging such as battens, trusses, electrics and other permanent moving equipment are, IMHO, not acceptable uses. Michael Michael Powers Director of Operations Central Lighting & Equipment 1720 Fuller Rd. Suite 150 West Des Moines Iowa 50265 515-277-4190 877-977-4190 Fax 515-277-2295 515-557-0178 cell michael [at] clelights.com ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 05:40:15 GMT Subject: Re: Audience Seating Message-Id: <20070119.214019.18186.1118692 [at] webmail36.lax.untd.com> The word from here is to clear with the AHJ the use of plastic cable = ties to tie the seats together in sets of 4 or more. /s/ Richard ____________________________________ Hello All, We just found out recently that our black box theater doesn't follow building codes to allow for larger audience seating. We have always = had a flexible layout for the audience, but now they tell us that it = needs to be fixed seating to allow for the higher capacity. = Does anyone now if there is any type of seating that can be locked = down in some way, but also removable? ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002c01c73c56$19dc4af0$e88712c6 [at] BCA1> Reply-To: "Bill Conner" From: "Bill Conner" Subject: Portable Stages and Building Code Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 23:44:49 -0600 I've worked for the architect and directly for the owner. Both can work but what Steven E. says is generally true. That works especially well for Steve because he is a "good" owner. He can articulate the needs and preferences and contribute to the balance between aesthetics and function. Both are important. Some one said "Pretty carpet, chandeliers, and brass water fountains do not a good theatre make." Maybe, but what makes a good theatre is lots of money and that often comes from people who really like pretty carpet, etc. How many theatre technicians have given millions of dollars for a theatre? Not many I suspect. You need people with money, even if they like pretty carpet and don't give a crap about consoles and rigging and you need a good design team that can explain to Mrs. Got Rocks why she has to give more to have a really good theatre with pretty carpet and great equipment. Sorry Steve but what wasn't said is that Steve regularly works with a very good and experienced architect and theatre consultant team. And all arrangements can go sour. Bill Conner ASTC ETCP CR-T ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 00:37:22 -0600 From: "Tim Catlett" Cc: bill [at] bcaworld.com (Bill Conner) Subject: Re: Portable Stages and Building Code In-Reply-To: References: While I agree in principle with what you are saying Bill, you have neglected one scenario in which the architect, the consultant, and the GC have considerable sway; sway which is difficult to counteract even for the most experienced owner/user. That is the area of profit margin. When installing rigging, lighting systems, sound systems, staging, etc., there is very little room for "extra" profit margin for any of the "design team." This is particularly true when dealing with reputable and respectable suppliers who refuse to up costs in order to build in mark-ups for the most powerful influences in the design team (specifically and usually, the GC, but sometimes the architect). If it sounds as though I have personal experience in this situation, well then, you are certainly perceptive. Take for instance, the case of a local high school theatre, built in 1936, which was the victim of an arson. The building, due to the fire being set in the costume storage area, was inundated with smoke and soot, which as many of you know is catastrophically damaging to electronic equipment, especially in the long-term. So... The building is renovated and restored to its "1936 splendor", complete with real alabaster chandeliers, $3K water fountains, fully restored lobby, fully restored seating, complete plaster renovation and paint restoration, new high-end carpet throughout the audience areas, etc. etc. etc. All of this was done but... The lighting system is dying a slow and painful death due carelessness in cleaning the soot out of the electrical/electronic components. This is, mind you, cleaning that many experts in fire restoration have said should never have happened because in the end it won't do any good. The system will fail regardless of the cleaning. This has been proven in the cases of several computers, dvd players, cameras, televisions, etc. that were "cleaned" and subsequently failed. The lighting system is taking much longer to die, but it is certainly doing so. The reason that the system was not replaced is because there was not enough margin in that specific aspect of the project for the GC to go forward with it. So the dimmer racks, residing in a room off of the stairwell that served as a "chimney" for a majority of the smoke and soot, are failing due to a misguided focus on chandeliers, water fountains, carpet, seating, etc. Those chandeliers, water fountains, etc. don't mean squat when shows/performances must be stopped in the middle in order to shut down the system so that components can cool off, reset, de-soot, or whatever the hell is going on in there, just to continue with the rest of the show in the manner designed. Orchestra concerts with lights flashing on and off, outside of any local control, are not pleasant to watch. Needless to say, neither are theatrical performances. Dammit. I'm still so pissed about this I can hardly stand it, but I'm continuing on and still fighting because my kids need a place to perform. ...ummmm (as I merrily ranted along I lost track of the word count...) Sorry all, I just had to get some of that off of my chest. Bill, I still agree with you on principle but it just doesn't account for all situations. I know you by reputation and trust you as a consultant implicitly. As you said, all arrangements can go sour. Ours did. Anyway, Thanks for listening/reading. -- Tim Catlett Asst. Technical Director - Shorewood High School Drama Technical Director - Milwaukee Shakespeare Director of Outreach/Membership - ISETSA (International Secondary Education Theatre Health & Safety Association) Cell: 414.975.4424 EMAIL: catlett.lizardsdream [at] gmail.com On 1/19/07, Bill Conner wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Some one said "Pretty carpet, chandeliers, and brass water fountains do not > a good theatre make." Maybe, but what makes a good theatre is lots of money > and that often comes from people who really like pretty carpet, etc. How > many theatre technicians have given millions of dollars for a theatre? Not > many I suspect. You need people with money, even if they like pretty carpet > and don't give a crap about consoles and rigging and you need a good design > team that can explain to Mrs. Got Rocks why she has to give more to have a > really good theatre with pretty carpet and great equipment. > > And all arrangements can go sour. > > Bill Conner ASTC ETCP CR-T > > ------------------------------ You are subscribed as stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net End of Stagecraft Digest #1099 ******************************