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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #1100

 1. Re: Portable Stages and Building Code
    by "Bill Conner" <bill-conner [at] att.net>
 2. Re: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?
    by "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>
 3. Re: Safety Signage was:(RE: Student sues college over injuries  in accident)
    by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
 4. Re: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?
    by "Steven Santos" <steven [at] simplycircus.com>
 5. Re: Portable Stages and Building Code
    by "Tim Catlett" <catlett.lizardsdream [at] gmail.com>
 6. Re: Texas Tech Fire
    by "Frank E. Merrill" <Lamplighter [at] tcon.net>
 7. Re: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?
    by Jim Hyslop <theatre [at] dreampossible.ca>
 8. Useful web site resource
    by Dale Farmer <dale [at] cybercom.net>
 9. Digi Projectors
    by b Ricie <b_ricie [at] yahoo.com>
10. Re: Real bullet!
    by Josh Ratty <josh.ratty [at] verizon.net>
11. Theatre and PAC Architects
    by "Bill Conner" <bill-conner [at] att.net>
12. Re: Real bullet!
    by "RD" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
13. Re: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?
    by "RD" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
14. Subject: Re: digi. projector
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
15. Re: Theatre and PAC Architects 
    by MartySrq [at] aol.com
16. Re: Was hand injury, now blade speed
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
17. Re: Theatre and PAC Architects 
    by MartySrq [at] aol.com
18. Re: Hey
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
19. Real bullet!
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
20. Re: Hey
    by MartySrq [at] aol.com
21. Re: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
22. Re: **JUNK** Re: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?
    by Jim Hyslop <theatre [at] dreampossible.ca>
23. Re: Theatre and PAC Architects 
    by Charlie Richmond <charlier [at] RichmondSoundDesign.com>
24. Re: Theatre and PAC Architects 
    by Charlie Richmond <charlier [at] RichmondSoundDesign.com>
25. Re: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?
    by "Steven Santos" <steven [at] simplycircus.com>
26. Re: Useful web site resource
    by Clive Mitchell <bigclive1 [at] ntlworld.com>
27. Now *here's* the bike for the next LRLR
    by "Paul Schreiner" <paulschreiner42 [at] gmail.com>
28. Re: Now *here's* the bike for the next LRLR
    by Bruce Purdy <bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
29. Re: foam sculpting
    by "Michael Finney" <mfinney [at] thinkwelldesign.com>
30. Re: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?
    by "Michael Finney" <mfinney [at] thinkwelldesign.com>
31. Re: Hey
    by "Occy" <OneOccy [at] hotmail.com>
32. Re: Hey
    by "Don Taco" <taco [at] peak.org>
33. Re: Hey
    by "Rob Riddle" <stagecraft [at] stageshirt.com>
34. Re: Hey
    by "Occy" <OneOccy [at] hotmail.com>

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Message-ID: <000601c73c8f$5a684040$e88712c6 [at] BCA1>
Reply-To: "Bill Conner" <bill [at] bcaworld.com>
From: "Bill Conner" <bill-conner [at] att.net>
Cc: catlett.lizardsdream [at] gmail.com (Tim Catlett)
References: <list-41447530 [at] prxy.net> <c9f556360701192237t22b5b7bfg8b8e055469d1b66a [at] mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Portable Stages and Building Code
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 06:34:37 -0600

In response to
From: "Tim Catlett" <catlett.lizardsdream [at] gmail.com>


> While I agree in principle with what you are saying Bill, you have
> neglected one scenario in which the architect, the consultant, and the
> GC have considerable sway; sway which is difficult to counteract even
> for the most experienced owner/user.
>
> That is the area of profit margin. When installing rigging, lighting
> systems, sound systems, staging, etc., there is very little room for
> "extra" profit margin for any of the "design team." This is
> particularly true when dealing with reputable and respectable
> suppliers who refuse to up costs in order to build in mark-ups for the
> most powerful influences in the design team (specifically and usually,
> the GC, but sometimes the architect).

I've been consulting for over 25 years and not only have never received and 
other than a "wheel" of cheddar or gift box with Badger cheese at Christmas, 
have neither been a recipient of "extra" profit or observed or learned of 
other theatre consultants doing so.  The bylaws of ASTC prohibit the Society 
members from such arrangements.  If you have personal knowledge of this 
practice among ASTC members, please report it to ASTC or to me and I will 
report it without your name attached if you prefer.

This does cause me to comment on the difference between consultants whose 
full time job is theatre consulting and who do not participate in the actual 
buying and selling of equipment and contracting associated with it from the 
dealers, contractors, and manufacturers who advertise (or not) consulting 
services.  I do not trust even those firms who claim if they "consult" on a 
project, they do not bid that work.  Too many opportunities for conflict of 
interest.  (This does not preclude design-build contracts, but the 
specifications and subsequent bidding or negotiation for that will often 
benefit from the services of a full time professional theatre consultant.  I 
suspect sound may be the one area where I feel most comfortable with these 
arrangements - but still would recommend the services of an independent 
sound system designer to oversee.  Sound systems seem to be more subject to 
personal preferences than other systems and are also shorter lived than say 
a lighting or rigging system.)

What you described does likely exist - but follow Steve's advice and find a 
reputable design team.

Bill Conner ASTC, ETCP CR-T






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Subject: RE: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:13:21 -0500
Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0731D27C [at] exchange.rmwc.edu>
In-Reply-To: <list-41445403 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>

> I stock my own.  The following is a list of what I keep in my=20
> jump kits (large kits).  This is a balance of being able to=20
> deal with virtually any situation, and being able to deal=20
> with what we commonly see without restocking every day, and=20
> without feeling like we need a packmule (intern) to carry it.=20

Back when I was touring, I went "worst-case" and included (along with
pretty much everything you list in your trauma/durable inventory) a
couple of differently-sized cervical collars...

------------------------------

Reply-To: <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
Subject: RE: Safety Signage was:(RE: Student sues college over injuries  in accident)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:20:44 -0500
Message-ID: <000201c73c9e$2c871ca0$6501a8c0 [at] Dell>
In-Reply-To: <list-41430376 [at] prxy.net>

Paul's signs are now available at http://www.jeffsalzberg.com/articles.htm.

Thanks, Paul!


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From: "Steven Santos" <steven [at] simplycircus.com>
Subject: RE: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 10:13:21 -0500
Message-ID: <FDEPKKINFFFAJOOJMIKBOEGOEPAA.steven [at] simplycircus.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-41458883 [at] prxy.net>

I keep a multi collar in my car.  The problem with them is that they are
just bulky. The list of what you could carry is endless-

- Automatic External Defibrillators (AEDs)
- Otoscope
- Pulse Oximeters
- Ring cutter
- forcepts
- EKG calipers
- Seatbelt cutter
- Window punch

Specialty kits
- OB kit (catch!)
- Latex free kit
- Snakebite kit
- Poison kit
- HAZ-MAT kit
- Infection control kit
- Burn Management Kit
  - Water-gel blankets
  - burn dressings
  - Fire Blankets
  - Steril water
- Immobilization & Extrication kit
  - Collars
  - KED
  - Short board
  - Long Board
  - Stair Chair
- Oxygen & Resuscitation equipment
  - Intubation equipment
  - NPA's
  - O2 tank
  - Masks and canulas
  - suction kit
- Splinting kit
  - Air Splints
  - Board Splints
  - SAM Splints
  - Traction Splints
  - Vacuum Splints
- MCI kit
- MCI Command and Control kit

but then, are we stocking a first aid kit, or are we stocking an ambulance?

P.S. Galls.com is one of the supply houses that supply the pros.  They even
have these wonderful BLS kits available, such as
http://galls.com/style.html?assort=general_catalog&style=TK024&cat=2791 that
will more than answer just about any pre-EMS need.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Steven Santos
Director, Simply Circus, Inc.
Email: Steven [at] SimplyCircus.com
 Mail: PO BOX 620753
       Newton, MA 02462
Phone: 781-799-4938
 eFax: 309-214-0899
  Web: www.SimplyCircus.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Paul
> Schreiner
> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 9:13 AM
> To: Stagecraft
> Subject: Re: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?
>
>
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> > I stock my own.  The following is a list of what I keep in my
> > jump kits (large kits).  This is a balance of being able to
> > deal with virtually any situation, and being able to deal
> > with what we commonly see without restocking every day, and
> > without feeling like we need a packmule (intern) to carry it.
>
> Back when I was touring, I went "worst-case" and included (along with
> pretty much everything you list in your trauma/durable inventory) a
> couple of differently-sized cervical collars...
>
>


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Message-ID: <c9f556360701200733t66b0e4esc1c288c7cc36bf6a [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:33:56 -0600
From: "Tim Catlett" <catlett.lizardsdream [at] gmail.com>
Cc: bill [at] bcaworld.com (Bill Conner)
Subject: Re: Portable Stages and Building Code
In-Reply-To: <list-41456528 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-41447530 [at] prxy.net>
	 <c9f556360701192237t22b5b7bfg8b8e055469d1b66a [at] mail.gmail.com>
	 <list-41456528 [at] prxy.net>

Hi Bill,

I didn't mean to suggest that any theatre-specific consultants on our
job were part and parcel to what I view to be unethical and
irresponsible practice. In fact the only consultants who were involved
with our job at all were suppliers/installers (thus working for the
architect and GC, rather than for us directly) and they did their job
exactly as they should have, for the most part. We actually didn't
have a theatrical consultant on the job because the idea was refused
by the architect and the GC, citing their experience in this area
eliminating the need for a specialized project-level consultant.

My main argument and ire, on our job, is and was directed at the
architect, Uihlein, and the GC, Paul Davis Restoration. It seems that
almost none of what we as the owner/user said/requested was listened
to in any way regarding the way the space is to be used, nor did they
listen to a whole host of experts regarding the damage that was done
to the hidden areas of the building. What we ended up with is a very
nice looking theatre that had all of its ugly and hidden spaces, the
spaces where I and my kids work, virtually untouched. It's just
infuriating and I didn't mean to vent like I did. I haven't had much
opportunity to do so, nor have the people I work with or my students.
Now we're just trying to make it through with a theatre that is in a
substandard condition compared to before the fire.

We're doing our best.

-- 
Tim Catlett
Asst. Technical Director - Shorewood High School Drama
Technical Director - Milwaukee Shakespeare
Director of Outreach/Membership  - ISETSA (International Secondary
Education Theatre Health & Safety Association)
Cell: 414.975.4424
EMAIL: catlett.lizardsdream [at] gmail.com

On 1/20/07, Bill Conner <bill-conner [at] att.net> wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> I've been consulting for over 25 years and not only have never received and
> other than a "wheel" of cheddar or gift box with Badger cheese at Christmas,
> have neither been a recipient of "extra" profit or observed or learned of
> other theatre consultants doing so.  The bylaws of ASTC prohibit the Society
> members from such arrangements.  If you have personal knowledge of this
> practice among ASTC members, please report it to ASTC or to me and I will
> report it without your name attached if you prefer.
>
> This does cause me to comment on the difference between consultants whose
> full time job is theatre consulting and who do not participate in the actual
> buying and selling of equipment and contracting associated with it from the
> dealers, contractors, and manufacturers who advertise (or not) consulting
> services.  I do not trust even those firms who claim if they "consult" on a
> project, they do not bid that work.  Too many opportunities for conflict of
> interest.  (This does not preclude design-build contracts, but the
> specifications and subsequent bidding or negotiation for that will often
> benefit from the services of a full time professional theatre consultant.  I
> suspect sound may be the one area where I feel most comfortable with these
> arrangements - but still would recommend the services of an independent
> sound system designer to oversee.  Sound systems seem to be more subject to
> personal preferences than other systems and are also shorter lived than say
> a lighting or rigging system.)
>
> What you described does likely exist - but follow Steve's advice and find a
> reputable design team.
>
> Bill Conner ASTC, ETCP CR-T

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 11:49:24 -0500
From: "Frank E. Merrill" <Lamplighter [at] tcon.net>
Reply-To: "Frank E. Merrill" <Lamplighter [at] tcon.net>
Message-ID: <904976667.20070120114924 [at] tcon.net>
Subject: Re: Texas Tech Fire
In-Reply-To: <list-41445072 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-41445072 [at] prxy.net>

Howdy !

Friday, January 19, 2007, Kyler Glaze wrote:

> there was a fire at the Charles E. Maedgen Jr. Theater at Texas Tech
> University.

Texas Tech?  Isn't that where Bobby Knight went after they threw him
out of Indiana University because of his hot temper?  I have a
suggestion where to look for the cause of the unfortunate fire....

GO COLTS!

Best regards,
  Frank E. Merrill
  MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT
  Indianapolis
  Established 1946
  www.merrillstage.com 

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Message-ID: <45B25395.6020607 [at] dreampossible.ca>
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 12:38:29 -0500
From: Jim Hyslop <theatre [at] dreampossible.ca>
Organization: Dreampossible Inc.
Subject: Re: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?
References: <list-41446329 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-41446329 [at] prxy.net>

Steven Santos wrote:
> The law trumps the insurance co regs.  Show the regs to the insurance co,
> they will change tune quickly.

Yeah, I should've realized that. I think I'm still a little gun-shy
after the way my previous insurance company treated me (long story, not
theatre related, so I won't go into details :-)

-- 
Jim Hyslop

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Message-ID: <45B25722.9030109 [at] cybercom.net>
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 12:53:38 -0500
From: Dale Farmer <dale [at] cybercom.net>
Subject: Useful web site resource

Couple of different times the topic of warning signs have come up.  A 
coworker told me about this website which allows you to generate various 
warning signs with your web browser and local printer.  

http://www.warninglabelgenerator.com/

   --Dale

  How about other folks follow up with some of their useful web site 
links? 

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Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 10:26:50 -0800 (PST)
From: b Ricie <b_ricie [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: Digi Projectors
In-Reply-To: <list-41370367 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <261603.95801.qm [at] web50602.mail.yahoo.com>

>>Are you projecting the same thing in either side of
the pro?  If 
so,
then the worst case scenario I can come up with is
that you have to buy 
a
VGA DA and some more cable.  Some projectors 'loop
through' VGA, yours 
may.
 Let us know exactly what it is you have and what
you're trying to do 
with
it and we'll solve your design problem and send you a
bill, ; >  <<<<


CB, I wish I had a better clue. My problem is I just
came on board for a show that is in Alaska, I am on
Cape Cod, and the venue it is going to is in DC. We
have had one production meeting via phone and my
vision of the big picture right now is perhaps a bit
more "cubism" than "reality". The info. from the
producing "body"(still not quite sure who *it* is) has
been slow coming. No sweat, I am just gonna gather as
much info as I can from the info I have. Still no
contract, or travel arrangements, yet I think I am
supposed to be there (Juneau) in about a week. I
suppose I should be getting nervous about now, but I
gave up stress a long time ago, and Alaska is the only
State I have not been to, so I am gonna stay with my
easy going nature and take it as it comes. Sometimes
blindly going.... can be fun. I await your bill. (I
already have a duck, chicken, goose, and some guy by
that name on my wall of bills. so please send me
something exotic, native to AZ perhaps.)

Brian Rice 
508-685-0716
b_ricie [at] yahoo.com
"Blessed are the cracked: For it is they who let in the 
light."


 
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Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 15:59:05 -0500
From: Josh Ratty <josh.ratty [at] verizon.net>
Subject: RE: Real bullet!
In-reply-to: <list-41438540 [at] prxy.net>
Reply-to: josh.ratty [at] verizon.net
Message-id: <00e501c73cd5$d37158f0$6401a8c0 [at] Rattys>



-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Clive
Mitchell
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 5:41 PM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Real bullet!


Oh. My. God.

-- 
Clive Mitchell
http://www.bigclive.com

Those last three words sum it up exactly. Perhaps one of the most
striking paragraphs to me was the following:

Last month, the federal Occupational Health and Safety Administration
fined the theme park $1,250 for creating a hazardous work environment
and recommended a safety officer be present during future shootouts.
Wild West City is contesting the fine.

$1,250? That's all. Did they maybe recommend not using real firearms or
live ammo as well?. Ugh! I'm with Clive on this one.

Oh. My. God.

Josh Ratty


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Message-ID: <004301c73cda$9391a000$6a01a8c0 [at] BCA1>
Reply-To: "Bill Conner" <bill [at] bcaworld.com>
From: "Bill Conner" <bill-conner [at] att.net>
Subject: Theatre and PAC Architects
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 15:33:07 -0600

My apologies.  I see I inadvertently used the wrong subject - Portable 
Stages and Building Code - on a post regarding Theatre and PAC Architects 
and Tim replied.

Bill Conner ASTC, ETCP CR-T 


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Reply-To: <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
From: "RD" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
Cc: ladesigners [at] juno.com
References: <list-41438540 [at] prxy.net> <list-41441898 [at] prxy.net> <list-41444999 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: RE: Real bullet!
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 15:28:19 -0700
Message-ID: <01a101c73ce2$50d17c10$6501a8c0 [at] doom1>
In-Reply-To: <list-41444999 [at] prxy.net>

I suppose, perhaps idly, that I am  up against some heavy hitters,  snide
remarkers, et al in defending OSHA. There are indeed the good guys, and
those that do care and tow the line, and are hard hitters, and maybe it is
because I work with so many of them across the country that I see a
different perspective than those of you who have little or no contact with
them. 
Perhaps, some might say, that I am in a better position than most to know
what I am talking about, but there will always be naysayers. Some situations
and fines, etc. are nonsensical, like the Twilight Zone Case that I worked
on for four years .... $500. fine. Using children in movies after dark: the
Jackie Coogan Act. But, if one reads and reviews, and studies, and keeps in
touch with many OSHA managers, reviewers, inspectors, etc. and works with
them to make things better, you may have a different point of view. Such has
been my experience since the initial legislation that created OSHA, and that
I have been privy to assisting in refining enforcement. Just my experience
and my opinion, and I continue to work with them, nationwide and out of
Washington, 36 years worth. Some of you may have more years and experience
than I do, so wail.  
Dr. Doom 
January 20, 2007

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Tim Catlett
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 8:57 PM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: Real bullet!

For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

I especially love this line in the report:

"Last month, the federal Occupational Health and Safety Administration
fined the theme park $1,250 for creating a hazardous work environment
and recommended a safety officer be present during future shootouts.
Wild West City is contesting the fine. "

Summary proof that OSHA is a toothless tiger...AND...they are
contesting a fine which is so small as to be insulting to the gravity
of the situation. How interesting.

It is phenomenal to me that any of us are safe in our workplace at all
with OSHA actions like this being taken.

I agree with Stuart's end assessment of contempt for basic safety
rules and would add the charge of contempt for a whole laundry list of
other things as well.

-- 
Tim Catlett
Asst. Technical Director - Shorewood High School Drama
Technical Director - Milwaukee Shakespeare
Director of Outreach/Membership  - ISETSA (International Secondary
Education Theatre Health & Safety Association)
Cell: 414.975.4424
EMAIL: catlett.lizardsdream [at] gmail.com


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Reply-To: <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
From: "RD" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
References: <list-41427518 [at] prxy.net> <list-41428858 [at] prxy.net> <list-41438235 [at] prxy.net> <list-41445149 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: RE: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 15:28:19 -0700
Message-ID: <01a701c73ce2$541646d0$6501a8c0 [at] doom1>
In-Reply-To: <list-41445149 [at] prxy.net>

Go for the law. Doom 

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Jim Hyslop
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 9:07 PM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?

For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

RD wrote:
> Know what is exactly allowed in the kit by the employer, and by the
> corporate owner. There are needs, true, but sometimes they are abrogated
by
> the requirement of the insurance company and the owner, i.e. what can be
> used, what is necessary for the potential injury or incidents that may or
> may not occur at your site. Doom 

Question: what do you do if the law requires you to have a particular
item, but your insurance company requires that you cannot have that item?

-- 
Jim Hyslop


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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070120164506.00c8a470 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 16:45:06
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Subject: Re: digi. projector

>I've never known a
>projection operator to have a problem figuring out how
>to use Open Office Impress when I've stuck it in front
>of them

This is great, but remember, this is exactly what everyone (and I mean
everyone) that has a problem with their presentation says every time that
there is a problem.  "It runs on (fill in the blanks) every time, it can't
be my software!"

>When I back up a presentation, I make sure to back up
>the presentation, the fonts, images, etc, but the
>truly great advantage to Open Office is that if the
>computer I'm about to run it off of doesn't have it,
>it's easily enough downloaded and installed,

If you meant downloaded from the media that ytou have provided, so be it.
If you mean downloaded from the internet, good luck.  Most hotels charge an
extortionist, er,  exhorbitant amount for an internet connection.  You'd be
surprised at who will balk at paying it.  BTW, having an internet
connection for you production crew is never a bad idea.  I've had people
telling me that they'll just have another presentation e-mailed to them,
only to be unable get to their e-mail.  Usually this kind of thing happens
right before their presentation, it's a time crunch.  Those that have these
problems well before their presentation are rarely a problem, because even
the noobiest of projectionists (and sometime those guys and the Power Point
operators are not the same guys) will be able to deal with amost anything,
given some time.  OTOH, why challenge any of your crew to make the show go
well.  KISS isn't just a band from the seventies, ya know!
Something tells me, though, that this group isn't the source of
presentation projection issues....
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012

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From: MartySrq [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <d46.5b3b2d.32e40992 [at] aol.com>
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:10:58 EST
Subject: Re: Theatre and PAC Architects 

re Steve Ehrenberg's response. 
 
Steve, that was well put and you made many ggod points but with all due  
repect I'm stickin' to my guns. If it's a good architect (and there are many)  
they'll listen and respond to the consultant no matter who signs the check. If  
it's an architect wth another agenda or one who believes they know all and are  
above advice from the peasants (and there are many) then the consultant needs 
to  be able to sound the alarm

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070120165316.00c8a470 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 16:53:16
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: Was hand injury, now blade speed

>reflexes, such as the knee jerk  
>and eye blink, which are impulses processes at the spinal cord or  
>before, and reactions, which are processes in the brain, such as hearing a
motor and  
>jerking your arm away.

I cna't tell you how many times that I've jerked (it's the 'monosynaptic
reflex') a body part away from something that lightly brushed that body
part with a simulteneous noise.  It has embarrased me far more often that
it has saved said body parts, but it could just be the caffeine content,
and the rest of you are doomed. (No offense, Randy)

>Sorry, Chris, but I think you've lost this this one.  The general  
>consensus is that human reaction times are not enough to save one's  
>limb given the circumstances of the case that sparked this  
>conversation.  Until you show up at USITT with a chopsaw, a  
>blindfold, and a waiver (we'll provide the ambulance), your arguments  
>will be for naught.

*sigh* I dunno about "general consensus" but I guess Phoenix isn't that far
away.  Who're we knocking off the schedule?
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012

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From: MartySrq [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <bdb.e3a1cb1.32e40c1b [at] aol.com>
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:21:47 EST
Subject: Re: Theatre and PAC Architects 

Steve,
 
Sorry, the message went before I finished or ran spell check. As we  know 
many venues get built before anyone is hired or with an admin. in place  before 
Tech Staff comes on. I really believe that the checks and balances  provided by 
an independent professional may help prevent an arrogant  architect from 
making bad decisions and will not create problems for a good  architect. That it 
is more usual for the consultant to work for the architect is  true but that 
doesn't make it the best scenario. If it were up to me I'd hire  the consultant 
first and ask who they like to work with. 
 
Wishing I could be there Monday and we could buy each other drinks.
 
Marty

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070120165924.00c8a470 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 16:59:24
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: Hey

>> Marital Rule One:  Don't get stuck (hit, blown up, etc).
>> Marital Rule Two:  See Rule One.
>
>I see you've met my ex-wife.

Dman Dysexlia!  It was supposed to be, of course, 'martial'.
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070120170145.00c8a470 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 17:01:45
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Real bullet!

>No safety officer.
+
>Actor-owned weapons.
+
>Fully functional weapons.
+
>Live ammunition on the same prop table with blanks.
+
>Actors with no gun permits.

=

Murder.
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012

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From: MartySrq [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <c8a.5397e20.32e40e02 [at] aol.com>
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:29:54 EST
Subject: Re: Hey

Was it Will Rogers who said: "There's two theories about arguin' with a  
woman. Neither one of them works."

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070120170933.00c8a470 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 17:09:33
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?

>Question: what do you do if the law requires you to have a particular
>item, but your insurance company requires that you cannot have that item?

Answer:  Send a copy to your agent, chapter, verse, and statute, with the
date of it's acceptance into law, and ask him if there wioll be a new
ruling on the requirements of the kit by the carrier, or a ruling on the
kit by the new carrier.
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012

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Message-ID: <45B2B8AC.1060309 [at] dreampossible.ca>
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:49:48 -0500
From: Jim Hyslop <theatre [at] dreampossible.ca>
Organization: Dreampossible Inc.
Subject: Re: **JUNK** Re: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?
References: <list-41427518 [at] prxy.net> <list-41428858 [at] prxy.net> <list-41438235 [at] prxy.net> <list-41445149 [at] prxy.net> <list-41469646 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-41469646 [at] prxy.net>

RD wrote:
> Go for the law. Doom 

Thanks.

It was a purely theoretical question, by the way - I don't know of
anyone who has been put in that position.

-- 
Jim Hyslop

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Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 17:29:55 -0800 (PST)
From: Charlie Richmond <charlier [at] RichmondSoundDesign.com>
Subject: Re: Theatre and PAC Architects 
In-Reply-To: <list-41471573 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0701201728390.27347 [at] valour.domainvanhorn.com>
References: <list-41471573 [at] prxy.net>

On Sat, 20 Jan 2007, MartySrq [at] aol.com wrote:

> Steve, that was well put and you made many ggod points but with all due
> repect I'm stickin' to my guns. If it's a good architect (and there are many)
> they'll listen and respond to the consultant no matter who signs the check. If
> it's an architect wth another agenda or one who believes they know all and are
> above advice from the peasants (and there are many) then the consultant needs
> to  be able to sound the alarm

I absolutely agree.  It's the consultant's duty of care to make sure they are 
being listened to as well, I feel...

Charlie

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Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 17:32:22 -0800 (PST)
From: Charlie Richmond <charlier [at] RichmondSoundDesign.com>
Subject: Re: Theatre and PAC Architects 
In-Reply-To: <list-41471766 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0701201730540.27347 [at] valour.domainvanhorn.com>
References: <list-41471766 [at] prxy.net>

On Sat, 20 Jan 2007, MartySrq [at] aol.com wrote:

> Sorry, the message went before I finished or ran spell check. As we  know
> many venues get built before anyone is hired or with an admin. in place  before
> Tech Staff comes on. I really believe that the checks and balances  provided by
> an independent professional may help prevent an arrogant  architect from
> making bad decisions and will not create problems for a good  architect. That it
> is more usual for the consultant to work for the architect is  true but that
> doesn't make it the best scenario. If it were up to me I'd hire  the consultant
> first and ask who they like to work with.

Ditto!  And I'd choose the consultant based on talking with USERS of facilities 
they consulted on...

C

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From: "Steven Santos" <steven [at] simplycircus.com>
Subject:  Re: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 20:56:16 -0500
Message-ID: <FDEPKKINFFFAJOOJMIKBGEHJEPAA.steven [at] simplycircus.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-41472358 [at] prxy.net>

> It was a purely theoretical question, by the way - I don't know of
> anyone who has been put in that position.

I was in that position about 5 years ago.  The insurance company requiered
we have Syrup of Ipecac in each kit, but prohibited activated charcole.  The
state of MA took SOI off of ambulances, and then prohibited its use or
posession by EMT-B's in prehospital settings.  Activated Charcole is
requiered on ambulances.  I had to send the insurance co a copy of the DPH
memos about this. The insurance agent initially sent a letter informing me
that they didn't care what the DPH requiered, they mandated this.  So I sent
a copy of that letter to the DPH, who called the insurance co in for a
hearing.  The insurance co changed tune quickly.

Now, what do you do when the laws conflicts?  As an EMT, I couldn't have SOI
at all, its prohibited by the state DPH/OEMS.  As a teacher, I was requiered
to have it by the state dept of edu.  Both are state liceancing agencies, so
which wins?

After 3 months of work, OEMS and the Dept. of Health won out over the Dept
of Edu, who then granted me an exemption to the requierment.  Last I heard,
they were still arguing with each other over it.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Steven Santos
Director, Simply Circus, Inc.
Email: Steven [at] SimplyCircus.com
 Mail: PO BOX 620753
       Newton, MA 02462
Phone: 781-799-4938
 eFax: 309-214-0899
  Web: www.SimplyCircus.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Jim
> Hyslop
> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 7:50 PM
> To: Stagecraft
> Subject: Re: **JUNK** Re: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?
>
>
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> RD wrote:
> > Go for the law. Doom
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Jim Hyslop
>
>


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Message-ID: <ur7i2cDzWtsFFwYw [at] ntlworld.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 02:53:39 +0000
From: Clive Mitchell <bigclive1 [at] ntlworld.com>
Subject: Re: Useful web site resource
References: <list-41463904 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-41463904 [at] prxy.net>

In message <list-41463904 [at] prxy.net>, Dale Farmer <dale [at] cybercom.net> 
writes
>For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
>---------------------------------------------------
>
>Couple of different times the topic of warning signs have come up.  A 
>coworker told me about this website which allows you to generate 
>various warning signs with your web browser and local printer.
>http://www.warninglabelgenerator.com/
>
>  --Dale
>
> How about other folks follow up with some of their useful web site 
>links?

http://www.online-sign.com/

For stupendously high resolution printable signs.  Printed onto glossy 
photo paper they look great.  You can also make spoof signs which can be 
quite amusing.  For example, the electric shock sign with the text 
"Wired by Joe"

-- 
Clive Mitchell
http://www.bigclive.com

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Message-ID: <f23a0f840701202016y15ff93a1uc935b51eb49178ae [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 23:16:09 -0500
From: "Paul Schreiner" <paulschreiner42 [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Now *here's* the bike for the next LRLR

http://www.mvagustausa.com/web-mvagusta/07_F4_CC.html

Granted, it's a little pricey, but...

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In-Reply-To: <list-41475649 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-41475649 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <91260922-5275-45EE-89B0-4F19FE695170 [at] rochester.rr.com>
From: Bruce Purdy <bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Now *here's* the bike for the next LRLR
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 00:48:49 -0500


On 20 Jan 2007, at 23:16, Paul Schreiner wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http:// 
> stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> http://www.mvagustausa.com/web-mvagusta/07_F4_CC.html
>
> Granted, it's a little pricey, but...

	Other end of the spectrum: take a look at this one:
http://tinyurl.com/hl59e

Bruce
____________________
Bruce Purdy
Technical Director
Smith Opera House




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Subject: Re:foam sculpting
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 21:55:28 -0800
Message-ID: <44FC1DD5E9E93D4F9D4C289DF28F7C3F2E0805 [at] thinkwellsbs.ThinkWell.corp>
From: "Michael Finney" <mfinney [at] thinkwelldesign.com>

Dick Archer wrote:

<<Suppose I needed a "bunch" of 8' tall statues for an awards
show.--think Oscars or Emmy's but it's not either of those-where would I
have them done?  Eventually needed in Northern Calif. but I suppose they
could be done anywhere.  Could be smooth hard covered foam. CNC 3-D
manufacturing?>>

Hey there Dick:

I'd take a look at Garner Holt Productions in SoCal or Academy Studios
in NoCal.  Both are set up to do mixed CNC/hand finish work and do great
figure finish work.  Both are up to museum display standards if you need
that - and I've had great luck with the work from both of them.  Academy
will be pricey (usually).

Web sites:

Garner Holt Productions
http://www.garnerholt.com/


Academy Studios
http://www.academystudios.com/

If that doesn't work, give me a call in the office on Monday and I'll
see what else is in the files.
=20
Michael Finney
Thinkwell Design & Production
mfinney [at] thinkwelldesign.com
www.thinkwelldesign.com=20

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Subject: RE: First Aid Kits? Suppliers and models?
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 22:47:35 -0800
Message-ID: <44FC1DD5E9E93D4F9D4C289DF28F7C3F2E080A [at] thinkwellsbs.ThinkWell.corp>
From: "Michael Finney" <mfinney [at] thinkwelldesign.com>

Steven Santow wrote:

<<I stock my own.>>
<<list snipped>>

Steven - that's a well set up kit, and I think it would suit a lot of
applications.  I have a few additional items that I carry in mine that
I'd suggest:

1) Chest seal dressing (or a roll of wide cling film/Saran Wrap plus the
existing pads)
2) Elastic bandages in 2" and 4"
3) 2 SAM splints in 4.25"x36" size
4) Seat belt/Rope knife (I prefer the Spyderco Clip Rescue knife)
5) I might substitute a couple of fleece blankets for the space blanket
(both for shock and because they're useful as padding)
6) I carry glucose gel (or "Gu") instead of the tablets.  Much, much
easier to deal with for somebody if they're having some "consciousness
issues"

I'm also carrying some of the new QuickClot supplies (both sponges and
pads), but those are a recent addition and I don't know if most shops
would need or want them.  (heck, my car kit has an O2 set-up, cervical
collars, tourniquet kits, and a few bits of both extrication equipment
and mass casualty management supplies as well, and I wouldn't expect a
shop to require that).  (I don't practice, but I'm an EMT by training,
with extra bits in backcountry first response and extrication...and I
still work as a volunteer with FEMA's Urban SAR groups)

If you end up dealing with dancers (or actors, for that matter) a lot,
I'd suggest increasing the number of cold packs...or keeping a
replacement stash in easy reach.  I've seen those go quickly...I buy
them for my wife (who teaches ballet) by the case.  I also keep a full
set of air splints in her kit.  Same caution - I don't think most shops
would need or want those.

There have been some good recommendations for suppliers.  I'd add both
Gall's and Chinook Medical to the list.  Web sites are:

http://www.galls.com/
http://www.chinookmed.com/

Thanks for sharing the list with the list, Steven!
=20
Michael Finney
Thinkwell Design & Production
mfinney [at] thinkwelldesign.com
www.thinkwelldesign.com=20

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Message-ID: <BAY110-DAV32B8E4D69C1CCD34D4214BDAF0 [at] phx.gbl>
From: "Occy" <OneOccy [at] hotmail.com>
References: <list-41471937 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Hey
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 22:53:15 -0800

No wonder the news said 51% of the women are not married these days...


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <MartySrq [at] aol.com>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Was it Will Rogers who said: "There's two theories about arguin' with a  
> woman. Neither one of them works."
> 

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Message-ID: <006601c73d2a$f2f4f8d0$e28aaa43 [at] DonTaco>
From: "Don Taco" <taco [at] peak.org>
References: <list-41471937 [at] prxy.net> <list-41477879 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Hey
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 23:08:25 -0800


From: "Occy" <OneOccy [at] hotmail.com>
> No wonder the news said 51% of the women are not married these days...
> 

   I don't remember when I've seen such an ugly example of baiting.
   What percentage of men are not married?

   You owe all women an apology.

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Message-ID: <008501c73d2e$a1f44a40$6701a8c0 [at] amd2200>
From: "Rob Riddle" <stagecraft [at] stageshirt.com>
References: <list-41471937 [at] prxy.net> <list-41477879 [at] prxy.net> <list-41478069 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Hey
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 02:34:48 -0500

After four shots of tequila only 22% of married men are.

Rob't
:-)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Don Taco" <taco [at] peak.org>

> > From: "Occy" <OneOccy [at] hotmail.com>
> > No wonder the news said 51% of the women are not married these
days...

>    I don't remember when I've seen such an ugly example of baiting.
>    What percentage of men are not married?
>
>    You owe all women an apology.



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Message-ID: <BAY110-DAV1208E5FE08B85F8D189032BDAF0 [at] phx.gbl>
From: "Occy" <OneOccy [at] hotmail.com>
References: <list-41471937 [at] prxy.net> <list-41477879 [at] prxy.net> <list-41478069 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Hey
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 00:02:01 -0800

If I offended any woman with that quote that was from 2 different news cast 
from 2 different networks. I apology to all women, even the one that don't 
even know this list is around it wasn't my intent hurt anyone's feelings.

Hey if I ever find another woman that I can stand again, I will be married 
again. But it looks like my chances have increased a bit.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Don Taco" <taco [at] peak.org>

> ---------------------------------------------------
>
>
> From: "Occy" <OneOccy [at] hotmail.com>
> > No wonder the news said 51% of the women are not married these days...
> >
>
>    I don't remember when I've seen such an ugly example of baiting.
>    What percentage of men are not married?
>
>    You owe all women an apology.
> 

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