Return-Path: X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 41672505; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 03:04:06 -0800 X-List-Processed: mail.prxy.net X-ListMember: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 41671975; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 03:03:13 -0800 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS, SUBJ_HAS_UNIQ_ID,TJ_EMPTY_SUBJECT,TW_XL autolearn=no version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on localhost X-Spam-Level: X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: List-Archive: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #1109 Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 03:02:15 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #1109 1. VW mirrors? by ken frederickson 2. Re: electricity to revolving stage by Rigger 3. Re: electricity to revolving stage by Stuart Wheaton 4. Re: Spike tape by MissWisc [at] aol.com 5. Re: Spike tape by "deziner [at] theatreinthepark.com" 6. Re: electricity to revolving stage by Clive Mitchell 7. Re: VW mirrors? by John McKernon 8. Re: Wireless speakers by Bruce Purdy 9. Re: Accommodating out-of-spec DMX receiver devices by Bruce Purdy 10. Re: Spike tape by Rigger 11. Re: VW mirrors? by Steve Shelley 12. Re: Movies & PA by Bruce Purdy 13. Re: Spike tape by Bruce Purdy 14. Re: Projectors by Bruce Purdy 15. Re: HI!! by "Mouse Johnston" 16. Re: Accommodating out-of-spec DMX receiver devices by 17. Re: Accommodating out-of-spec DMX receiver devices by Jerry Durand 18. Re: Wireless speakers by Chip Wood 19. Re: HI!! by "Bill Nelson" 20. Re: electricity to revolving stage by "Bill Nelson" 21. Re: Wireless speakers by jonares [at] hevanet.com 22. Re: Cage Match? by "Bill Nelson" 23. Re: VW mirrors? by "C. Andrew Dunning" 24. Re: Projectors by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 25. Re: I know it's a little early, but... by "Delbert Hall" 26. Re: Projectors by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 27. Re: Projectors by Jerry Durand 28. Re: Projectors by Jerry Durand 29. Stagecraft list swag at USITT... by Noah Price 30. Re: Movies & PA by "Ed Hills" 31. Re: Stagecraft list swag at USITT... by Andrew Vance 32. Re: Projectors by Ford Sellers 33. Re: And yet another introduction from a bumbling college student by "RD" 34. Re: Today's completely OT PSA by "RD" 35. Re: Portable Stages and Building Code by "RD" 36. Re: Skweeks vs Rope 'Ranglers (was: Re: Hi, my name is Abby!) by "RD" 37. Re: Skweeks vs Rope 'Ranglers (was: Re: Hi, my name is Abby!) by "RD" 38. Re: And yet another introduction from a bumbling college student by "Bill Nelson" 39. Re: digi. projector by Mick Alderson 40. Internally threaded bolt by "Jared Fortney" 41. A message from the LRLR by Bill Sapsis 42. Re: electricity to revolving stage by Josh Ratty 43. Intro by "Alexandra Barrett" 44. Re: Internally threaded bolt by "Bill Nelson" 45. Hi, my name is Hannah.....and I'm a Theatre Major *gasp* by "Hannah Hudson" 46. Re: Internally threaded bolt by Stuart Wheaton 47. Re: Full Monty Sign by "C. Dopher" 48. Re: Full Monty Sign by "C. Dopher" 49. Re: Internally threaded bolt by James Feinberg 50. Re: Skweeks vs Rope 'Ranglers (was: Re: Hi, my name is Abby!) by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 51. Re: Portable Stages and Building Code by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 52. Re: Stagecraft list swag at USITT... by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 53. Re: electricity to revolving stage by "Steven Santos" 54. Re: Projectors by Bruce Purdy 55. by "Sara Rechnitzer" 56. Re: Internally threaded bolt by "Jared Fortney" 57. Re: your mail by Charlie Richmond 58. Re: Projectors by Brian Aldous 59. Intros by Michael Heinicke 60. Introductions by Kyler Glaze 61. Request for Technical Resumes for Educator by "White, Brian" 62. Re: electricity to revolving stage by "Michael Powers" 63. Re: electricity to revolving stage by "Bill Nelson" 64. Re: electricity to revolving stage by "Bill Nelson" 65. Re: Internally threaded bolt by Josh Ratty *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:43:17 -0800 (PST) From: ken frederickson Subject: VW mirrors? Message-ID: <10289.22807.qm [at] web50806.mail.yahoo.com> does anyone know how to make a mirror in VW's 9? ____________________________________________________________________________________ The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! 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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 16:44:03 -0500 From: Rigger Subject: Re: electricity to revolving stage At 3:32 PM -0500 1/25/07, Kurt Cypher wrote: >> My first reaction is to shoot the director and designer. >> Also the SM, for letting a problem like this get through >> the production conference. However, this is not really >> practical. > > Or legal, in most jurisdictions. Are there any places left where the phrase "he needed killin'" is a parctical defense? -- Dave Vick rigger [at] tds.net If Helen Keller had psychic ability, would you say that she had a "fourth sense"? ------------------------------ Message-ID: <45B928CF.5040606 [at] fuse.net> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:01:51 -0500 From: Stuart Wheaton Reply-To: sdwheaton [at] fuse.net Subject: Re: electricity to revolving stage References: In-Reply-To: Judy wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hi all, > > I'm doing a production of Pygmalion with a revolving stage. No motor, > just a huge round thing on wheels with three different sets on it, which > the stagehands will be pushing around. My problem: the sets are full of > practicals (little standing lamps, street lights etc.) which will all > need to be controlled by dimmers. (and no budget for radio control!) > And the stage will be moving around clockwise the whole time, sometimes > in view of the audience. How do I get cable to all those lamps while > this platform keeps revolving all evening? There isn't time to plug and > unplug things. I can't run cable under the platform or the wheels will > get stuck on it. Any ideas or experience at this kind of thing? > > thanks > Judy Slip rings are not really that tough to make. The one I built was as follows. Build a hollow plywood drum that will fit around the TT pivot. Mine was about 2' in Diameter. Cover the outside of the drum with a wrap of 1/8" plastic material, sheet PVC or UHMW or Sintra as available. Obtain some 3/4 x 1/16" copper or brass strap, wrap bands of that around the drum, screw it down solidly with countersunk screws. Leave gaps of about 3/4" between bands for safety. Make a set of brushes out of the same stock attached to a wooden backer, with springs behind the brushes to press them against the drum. a little dab of conductive grease (auto parts store) will help it run without arcing. The turntable lid will keep people's fingers clear of the exposed contacts, if needed, a fence could be set around the whole thing. For the input wires, could you cut a groove into the floor (if you have a sacrificial layer on your floor) or set the wheels up on tracks of 3/4" plywood and duck under that? Inverting the turntable is the best option, but if it is already built wheels down.... Depending on your loads, you can probably use a common neutral and ground and just split out the hot lines. If you don't let this intimidate you, it isn't too tough or too time intensive. ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:04:11 EST Subject: Re: Spike tape Would a large darning needle work? I'm thinking of the kind that is about 4" long has a large eye and a rather dull tip... could thread the ribbon through the eye and push the needle through the rope leaving the ribbon tail in it. The ropes where I work are synthetic and we use gaff to spike them. Kristi ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:19:32 -0500 Subject: Re: Spike tape From: "deziner [at] theatreinthepark.com" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Or perhaps a spline. Isn't that what they are for? Are they still sold? Steve > From: MissWisc [at] aol.com > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" > Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:04:11 EST > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Re: Spike tape > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Would a large darning needle work? I'm thinking of the kind that is about 4" > long has a large eye and a rather dull tip... could thread the ribbon > through the eye and push the needle through the rope leaving the ribbon tail > in it. > The ropes where I work are synthetic and we use gaff to spike them. > > Kristi > ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 22:14:10 +0000 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: electricity to revolving stage References:

In-Reply-To: In message , Jerry Durand writes >>It might be possible to rig a laptop on the revolve to carry out the >>control functions, with a wireless network interface to it. > >Actually, a laptop with a WiFi card running VNC solves a lot of remote >problems. I've even debugged hardware in my office using VNC on my >laptop while sitting in my living room (hey, if I have to work late, >might as well put my feet up and have a beer). Or pop a small dimmer rack and simple controller in the middle of the revolve complete with a small stagehand to operate the controls. :) -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:35:09 -0500 Subject: Re: VW mirrors? From: John McKernon Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > does anyone know how to make a mirror in VW's 9? I expect the same way they've always been made - with some glass and a bit of silvering... - John ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Bruce Purdy Subject: Re: Wireless speakers Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:46:30 -0500 On 25 Jan 2007, at 07:00, CB wrote: > I'm thinking back to the last four or five residences tht I lived > in with > doorbells, and they all did have them near the door. > Where are you that the > doorbell is remoted from the door by a large margin. Are you > living in a > house too big to hear the bell from the lounge? Any house I can remember my parents ever owning has had the doorbell centrally located - often near the base of the staircase. The transformer was in the furnace room in the basement, and a button by each door. "Ding" meant the back door, and "Ding Dong" meant the front door. Of course, those were larger middle class suburban homes. I work in non-profit Theatre, so I own a house with NO doorbell. You just knock on the door, and I'll hear you. Bruce ____________________ Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <42F07B06-9AD8-4C6E-96C4-C238B6A90ED9 [at] rochester.rr.com> From: Bruce Purdy Subject: Re: Accommodating out-of-spec DMX receiver devices Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 18:05:29 -0500 On 25 Jan 2007, at 13:46, frank.wood95 [at] ntlworld.com wrote: > Call me a grumpy old sod if you will OK, You're a grumpy old sod. > the DMX specification is written down on several pieces of paper, > including allowable tolerances. If some outfit is selling gear as > DMX-compatible, and it fails to meet the specifation, this rings > warning bells. What is the rest of the design like? In a perfect world, Frank, everything would meet standards. In the real world, there is a lot that does not. "DJ" type lighting equipment usually uses three-pin DMX connectors instead of five-pin. Older equipment is still in use that was developed before DMX standards became as established. Some used other protocols like AMX or CMX, and later tried to offer the option of DMX before it became so standardised. A lot of equipment is out there that for one reason or another is "Out of spec." Are you saying that a manufacturer of controllers should not try to accommodate customers that happen to own such equipment? If you are willing to tell potential customers to fry ice - that if your controller doesn't work for them, that it's their own fault for owning the wrong dimmer racks - you won't stay in business for long! Bruce ____________________ Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 18:12:07 -0500 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Spike tape At 5:04 PM -0500 1/25/07, MissWisc [at] aol.com wrote: >Would a large darning needle work? I've used darning needles and knitting needles in a pinch, yes. -- Dave Vick rigger [at] tds.net I almost don't feel the way I do. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 18:13:12 -0500 Subject: Re: VW mirrors? From: Steve Shelley Message-ID: In-Reply-To: And me without a rim shot. On 1/25/07 5:35 PM, "John McKernon" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > >> does anyone know how to make a mirror in VW's 9? > > I expect the same way they've always been made - with some glass and a bit > of silvering... > > - John > > -- Steve Shelley SoftSymbols Designer MrTemplate [at] Earthlink.net www.fieldtemplate.com ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References:

Message-Id: <5ED32127-BB8C-49C3-BCCA-7400106DE7AB [at] rochester.rr.com> From: Bruce Purdy Subject: Re: Movies & PA Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 18:14:38 -0500 On 25 Jan 2007, at 13:43, Ed Hills wrote: > So I need to share my PA with a movie sound system. > I think I'll be doing this on the line side of things. > The question is.. > Should I use some kind of arrangement of double pole switches or > make a > small xlr patch bay. I can't speak to which is better, but I have to wonder about your system. In my venue, there is a separate amp rack for movies from the one for live events. Both systems share the same speakers though, which are on casters. For live events I put them on the corners of the apron and plug them in to the jacks connected to the "Live" amp rack. For movies, I roll them behind the screen and plug them into jacks on the US wall, which are connected to the amp rack in the booth. If you are simply switching inputs to the same system, are you leaving the speakers in the same location? The speakers really should be behind the screen for the movie to sound right. Bruce ____________________ Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References:

Message-Id: From: Bruce Purdy Subject: Re: Spike tape Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 18:18:21 -0500 On 25 Jan 2007, at 18:12, Rigger wrote: > I've used darning needles and knitting needles in a pinch, yes. I originally bought a crochet hook. The hook end was too small for the ribbon, and I finally found it easier just to get enough slack to stick the ribbon through with my finger. I would not recommend a crochet hook. Bruce ____________________ Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <4B97D95C-DEE7-4824-ABDF-9FF4C6D490DD [at] rochester.rr.com> From: Bruce Purdy Subject: Re: Projectors Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 18:27:06 -0500 On 25 Jan 2007, at 10:35, ladesigners [at] juno.com wrote: > Mount a CD drive with plumbers tape, making sure the drawer opens in > front of the lens, get a power supply plus a switch, and you're done. > /s/ Richard Now I've heard this advice several times in the past, but it sounds easier than I found it to be. I bought a used CD drive from a computer recycling place, but didn't know what to do next. It has a ribbon connector with several contacts on it. Which ones are for power and how many volts was a mystery, as was where the switch should connect. These things don't come with a wiring diagram! I suppose I'd need a computer power supply module as well - will any one do? Can a wall wart be substituted? Again, where does the switch connect? Are there any detailed "Project plans" up on a website somewhere? Bruce ____________________ Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Message-ID: <479f37ff0701251530m785c6975k30275277d6b68de2 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:30:44 -0600 From: "Mouse Johnston" Subject: Re: HI!! In-Reply-To: References:

Haha, don't know if thats a good thing or a bad thing...anyways, thanks for the welcome! On 1/25/07, Rigger wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > At 1:17 PM -0600 1/25/07, Mouse Johnston wrote: > > >My name is Mouse, and I've worked with Paul going on three years now > >as one of his work study girls. Even so, this is the first chance I've > >been able to take his class, so here I am.... > > > Paul has spoken of you in the past. Welcome to the zoo. > > -- > Dave Vick > rigger [at] tds.net > > Since 1983, more than 30 people have been killed in Post Offices. > Ya wanna know why? Because the price of postage keeps changing. > ------------------------------ From: Subject: Re: Re: Accommodating out-of-spec DMX receiver devices Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 23:42:41 +0000 Message-Id: <20070125234241.MRB219.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [at] smtp.ntlworld.com> > > From: Jerry Durand > Date: 2007/01/25 Thu PM 08:42:50 GMT > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Re: Accommodating out-of-spec DMX receiver devices > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > At 10:46 AM 1/25/2007, frank.wood95 [at] ntlworld.com wrote: > >If some outfit is selling gear as DMX-compatible, and it fails to > >meet the specifation, this rings warning bells. What is the rest of > >the design like? > > Low cost. It's what people buy when they don't have a lot of > money. We have a lot of customers using very low cost dimmers and > other "DJ" equipment. We make sure they understand the limitations, > for many projects low cost is "good enough". I know this, but you must be prepared to accept the 'knock-ons' of presuading the gear to work reliably. I have, in my time, been a professional in this field, or related ones. I should not have accepted gear which did not meet the specifications, nor have designed such. I had a reputation for over-engineering equipment. Perhaps I did, but it always worked first time, with no service calls. Figure that into your costs. Frank Wood ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 16:00:00 -0800 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Accommodating out-of-spec DMX receiver devices In-reply-to: Message-id: <7.0.1.0.0.20070125155252.01f0baf0 [at] interstellar.com> References: At 03:42 PM 1/25/2007, frank.wood95 [at] ntlworld.com wrote: >I know this, but you must be prepared to accept the 'knock-ons' of >presuading the gear to work reliably. I have, in my time, been a >professional in this field, or related ones. I should not have >accepted gear which did not meet the specifications, nor have >designed such. I had a reputation for over-engineering equipment. >Perhaps I did, but it always worked first time, with no service >calls. Figure that into your costs. > Notice I didn't say I was designing with cheap gear. For testing, trade shows, and general use I have a very good Dove Systems dimmer and also a couple of "DJ" quality dimmers. We also sell DC dimmers. You can pound these right up to the limits of the DMX spec without a flicker (and I'm only using a PIC processor in the dimmers). As for our customers, this month alone we're shipping to museum and architectural customers. They are often happy with DJ gear. We also have a bunch in TV studios, they rarely fade the lights on-camera (or use them for blinky-lights in the background on game shows), so as long as it's stable while the camera is on, they're happy. -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand ------------------------------ Message-ID: <45B944FF.6070105 [at] gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:02:07 -0700 From: Chip Wood Subject: Re: Wireless speakers References: In-Reply-To: CB wrote: >> But a normal modern electric >> door bell "bell" is rarely placed near the door > > I'm thinking back to the last four or five residences tht I lived in with > doorbells, and they all did have them near the door. Where are you that the > doorbell is remoted from the door by a large margin. Are you living in a > house too big to hear the bell from the lounge? > I guess they do things differently in MON and Merry Ol'. I can't remember when any of my houses weren't pre-wired so the "ding-dong" was close to the center of the house, usually in the bed/bath hallway. One is rarely near the front door when company pushes the button. Usually you are in the Kit or bath and need the alert sound to be close to you. Chip ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3144.205.215.253.41.1169772890.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 16:54:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: HI!! From: "Bill Nelson" >> My name is Mouse, and I've worked with Paul going on three years now >> as one of his work study girls. Even so, this is the first chance I've >> been able to take his class, so here I am.... Hi, Mouse. You have been mentioned once or twice by Paul on this list. Welcome. As long as you have a good sense of humor, a sometimes thick skin and an inquisitive mind, you will get along fine here. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3149.205.215.253.41.1169773129.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 16:58:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: electricity to revolving stage From: "Bill Nelson" > Could you possibly gaff tape the cords under the platform itself, so > that the wires don't get caught up under the wheels? The cable would > of course have to be long enough to allow for the movement, but maybe > if its coiled offstage and kept an eye on by stage hands....that might > work. The problem with that is, according to the original description, is that the platform will be making multiple turns in one direction. It would require hundreds of feet of slack and a cable tray to hold all the turns wound around the revolve. Bill ------------------------------ Message-Id: <200701260059.l0Q0xMH06372 [at] broadway.hevanet.com> From: jonares [at] hevanet.com Subject: Re: Wireless speakers Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 00:59:22 GMT > dooe was far too expediant to try to change things. Where are you that the > doorbell is remoted from the door by a large margin. Are you living in a > house too big to hear the bell from the lounge? Growing up, I lived in 5 different houses - all had their electric doorbell chime thing in the hallway - somewhere between 10 feet and 30 feet from the front door.... - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3153.205.215.253.41.1169773269.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:01:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Cage Match? From: "Bill Nelson" > Everybody probably can, to their own satisfaction. But that is not what > they are there for.They are there to mix for the audience's satisfaction, > and maybe the director's. That is a lot less easy. It requires a > sophisticated judgment, and a lot of experience. Or just being better than anyone else available. Bill ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "C. Andrew Dunning" Subject: RE: VW mirrors? Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 19:02:54 -0600 Organization: Landru Design In-Reply-To: Message-ID: OK, so now that everyone else has beat me w. the obvious comments... Create a Renderworks texture w. a "Mirror" reflectivity. Create 3D geometry representing your mirror (probably, an extruded rectangle) and apply this new texture to it. Virtual mirror created... C. Andrew Dunning Landru Design - Nashville, TN - cad [at] landrudesign.com landrudesign [at] earthlink.net www.landrudesign.com >-----Original Message----- >From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf >Of ken frederickson >Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 3:43 PM >To: Stagecraft >Subject: VW mirrors? > >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > >--------------------------------------------------- > >does anyone know how to make a mirror in VW's 9? > > > >_______________________________________________________________ >_____________________ >The fish are biting. >Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. >http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php > > ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 01:12:30 GMT Subject: Re: Projectors Message-Id: <20070125.171344.8266.1149973 [at] webmail37.lax.untd.com> The original question was NOT how to create a cross fade, but merely = to eliminate the charcoal rather than black projections on the screen = BETWEEN the times in the show when the projector is utilized, so the = wipe you mention is only between charcoal and black, and that can be = hidden by an unrelated lighting change taking place simultaneously... /s/ Richard _____________________________ The issue with using one CD drive, or piece of luan (as Steve and = Richard suggest) is that you tend to get a wipe, instead of a = dissolve. The more acute the angles on your "douser leaves" the more = of a dissolve you'll get instead of a wipe. You can try it with = paper first (using your hands as the "motor") to get the angles right. Hope that helps. -Ford ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:22:44 -0500 From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: Re: I know it's a little early, but... In-Reply-To: References: I am current not planning on going to SETC this year, but I will be at USITT. -Delbert -- Delbert L. Hall ETCP Certified Rigger - Theatre 423-773-4255 ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 01:22:32 GMT Subject: Re: Projectors Message-Id: <20070125.172310.8266.1150036 [at] webmail37.lax.untd.com> Dear Bruce, A computer power supply will come with a polarized 4 conductor power = connector that should match the power connector on the back of the CD = drive, and there should be a momentary switch on the face of the CD = player that you can wire a momentary switch in parallel with. /s/ Richard _______________________ On 25 Jan 2007, at 10:35, ladesigners [at] juno.com wrote: > Mount a CD drive with plumbers tape, making sure the drawer opens in > front of the lens, get a power supply plus a switch, and you're done. > /s/ Richard Now I've heard this advice several times in the past, but it = sounds easier than I found it to be. I bought a used CD drive from a = computer recycling place, but didn't know what to do next. It has a = ribbon connector with several contacts on it. Which ones are for = power and how many volts was a mystery, as was where the switch = should connect. These things don't come with a wiring diagram! I suppose I'd need a computer power supply module as well - = will any = one do? Can a wall wart be substituted? Again, where does the switch = connect? Are there any detailed "Project plans" up on a website = somewhere? Bruce ____________________ Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:28:55 -0800 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Projectors In-reply-to: Message-id: <779AC53C-6DD8-432A-A849-8150B79B4D61 [at] interstellar.com> References: On Jan 26, 2007, at 1:22 AM, ladesigners [at] juno.com wrote: > A computer power supply will come with a polarized 4 conductor power > connector that should match the power connector on the back of the CD > drive, and there should be a momentary switch on the face of the CD > player that you can wire a momentary switch in parallel with. > /s/ Richard And going with the wall-wort idea, that power connector supplies 12VDC (yellow wire) and 5VDC (red wire). If you have a 12VDC >regulated< wall wort that is rated at a couple of amps or more (current draw MAY be listed on the CD drive), you can use an LM7805 regulator from any electronics parts store to get the 5VDC. You probably won't need a heat sink on the regulator, but test it out with your drive. Some may use more current than others. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:34:00 -0800 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Projectors In-reply-to: Message-id: References:

> And going with the wall-wort idea, that power connector supplies > 12VDC (yellow wire) and 5VDC (red wire). If you have a 12VDC > >regulated< wall wort that is rated at a couple of amps or more > (current draw MAY be listed on the CD drive), you can use an LM7805 > regulator from any electronics parts store to get the 5VDC. You > probably won't need a heat sink on the regulator, but test it out > with your drive. Some may use more current than others. Oh yes, if you can't see if the drawer is open or closed, turn off the power, wait a few beats, and turn it back on. Most drives will close the drawer on power up. So, on power up drawer is closed. Pulse switch and drawer opens. Cycle power and drawer closes. ------------------------------ Message-Id: From: Noah Price Subject: Stagecraft list swag at USITT... Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:50:41 -0800 I've finally gotten my act together to find something to give out with the Stagecraft list info on it :-) Is anyone on the list exhibiting at USITT in March who might be willing to put something out? I have a few ideas, so email me directly at stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net and I can tell you more. Also, is anyone from near San Jose, CA attending USITT? If not, I'll just ship to somebody's hotel room. Maybe if there's some left, others on the list can get it... or maybe you'll need to wait for the next trade show if this goes over well and I do it again :-) Thanks, Noah ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:52:00 -0500 From: "Ed Hills" Subject: RE: Movies & PA In-reply-to: Reply-to: Message-id: <008501c740ec$926c9e80$ed01a8c0 [at] prescott> References:

In this instance I must share both amplifiers and speakers L/C/R/Sub between the movie system and the PA. The Surrround L/R amp resides in the projection booth with the rest of automation and processing. It is my intention to send the L/C/R/Sub channels down to the amprack, near the stage, where the line side can be swapped between the FOH Mixer and the Movie Processor. So my mains/ sub are in a fixed location and all I have to do is roll out the center channel. -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Purdy Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 6:15 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Movies & PA For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- On 25 Jan 2007, at 13:43, Ed Hills wrote: > So I need to share my PA with a movie sound system. > I think I'll be doing this on the line side of things. > The question is.. > Should I use some kind of arrangement of double pole switches or > make a > small xlr patch bay. I can't speak to which is better, but I have to wonder about your system. In my venue, there is a separate amp rack for movies from the one for live events. Both systems share the same speakers though, which are on casters. For live events I put them on the corners of the apron and plug them in to the jacks connected to the "Live" amp rack. For movies, I roll them behind the screen and plug them into jacks on the US wall, which are connected to the amp rack in the booth. If you are simply switching inputs to the same system, are you leaving the speakers in the same location? The speakers really should be behind the screen for the movie to sound right. Bruce ____________________ Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <4259CD36-60C2-4018-B272-4DA64E90B7AC [at] gmail.com> From: Andrew Vance Subject: Re: Stagecraft list swag at USITT... Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:59:35 -0500 On 25 Jan, 2007, at 20:50 , Noah Price wrote: > Maybe if there's some left, others on the list can get it... or > maybe you'll need to wait for the next trade show if this goes over > well and I do it again :-) I hope there will be some left. Some of us seldom get out to USITT or LDI. : ( -- Sincerely, Andrew Vance Lighting Designer atvanceld [at] gmail.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20070125210237.030e9be0 [at] cornell.edu> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 21:04:04 -0500 From: Ford Sellers Subject: Re: Projectors In-Reply-To: References: I suppose, if you only want to go from grey to black when there's a ton of light on the stage (and screen).... At 08:12 PM 1/25/2007, you wrote: >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > >The original question was NOT how to create a cross fade, but merely >to eliminate the charcoal rather than black projections on the screen >BETWEEN the times in the show when the projector is utilized, so the >wipe you mention is only between charcoal and black, and that can be >hidden by an unrelated lighting change taking place simultaneously... >/s/ Richard >_____________________________ >The issue with using one CD drive, or piece of luan (as Steve and >Richard suggest) is that you tend to get a wipe, instead of a >dissolve. The more acute the angles on your "douser leaves" the more >of a dissolve you'll get instead of a wipe. You can try it with >paper first (using your hands as the "motor") to get the angles right. > >Hope that helps. >-Ford > ************************ Ford H Sellers Master Electrician Cornell University Schwartz Center for the Performing Arts 430 College Avenue Ithaca NY, 14850 (607) 254-2736 office (607) 254-2733 fax ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "RD" References: Subject: RE: And yet another introduction from a bumbling college student Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 19:05:32 -0700 Message-ID: <045001c740ee$7fddb9a0$6501a8c0 [at] doom1> In-Reply-To: Welcome Katrina: Dr. doom -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Katrina Wiechmann Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 9:50 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: And yet another introduction from a bumbling college student For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Hello all, I am Katrina Wiechmann and am a sophomore at Randolph-Macon Woman's College: that lovely institution at which Paul spends so much time, supposedly TDing, but half the time we aren't really sure what he's doing. ;) I am one of his elusive stagecraft students, and am writing an introduction to get out of any greater torture which he may decide to foist on us. I have also work-studied for him for 1.5 years, so I feel comfortable saying he can be a hum- sometimes.like when he IMs me at 11pm and tells me I have a homework assignment to do, but makes me try to figure out what it is on my own. I am a physics major with minors in math and classical studies. Theatre-wise I have done mostly work on set construction and a (very) little bit of work with lights, sound, rigging (through Sapsis Rigging this past summer.Hi, Chris *wave*), stage management (RMWC Greek Play), and acting, though, I don't really consider myself to have any real acting experience since I have not tried it since high school. (No acting, besides, "*cough cough* Paul, I can't come in to work today because I'm sick," but of course I would never do that.) Probably my greatest interest in the theatre arena (note, not the arena theatre) is in classical/ancient drama. Basically if I change my mind about being an astronomer, I will go into that bustling *cough* realm of ancient drama, where I have probably already taken classes with 1% of the known scholars in the field.only 198 left to go! Well, I hope I have been somewhat amusing with a smattering of actual information about myself thrown in. I apologise in advance for any violations of netiquette, etc., as well as any lapses into British spellings. ~Katrina -- "Not ending a sentence with a preposition is a bit of arrant pedantry up with which I will not put."~ Winston Churchill ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "RD" References:

Subject: RE: Today's completely OT PSA Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 19:05:32 -0700 Message-ID: <045401c740ee$801e1e00$6501a8c0 [at] doom1> In-Reply-To: It is my wont, indeed my daily practice at Mass each day, to always pray for all of you at USITT and Stagecraft ....my technical family. For you, for your loved ones, for all that you do to make this world a better world, a safer and healthier world and profession. Many illnesses in my family at present, 4th stage Lymphoma, et al, and my heart and lungs, not too good, I fear. Lots of treatments, but I am ready, and still serve this profession of theater with my heart and energy. To one and all, love and prayers, and thanks. Dr. Doom -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Shawn Palmer Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 10:30 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Today's completely OT PSA For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Amen brothers. My wife did six months of salvage chemo a couple years ago, when she was thirty-five. She was a stage IV. Every week included an overnight in the hospital. It was hell. I was a mess. We were lucky and/or blessed- she's still here. Also... my brother-in-law did two rounds of salvage chemo. The first round was at the same time as my wife's. Synopsis: men should check themselves too. Please. Shawn Palmer Appleton, Wisconsin USA > screw OT-ness, Call it a PSA > > I lost my sister, at 50 years young, last Aug, due to breast cancer > that had gotten into her liver. When diagnosed she had 4 weeks. > > Women of ALL ages, get checked, and check yourself, regularly! > > Rob't ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "RD" References:

Subject: RE: Portable Stages and Building Code Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 19:05:32 -0700 Message-ID: <048201c740ee$86a56990$6501a8c0 [at] doom1> In-Reply-To: IS THE WORD, ABSOLUTELY. DOOM AGREE! -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Michael Brubaker Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 10:46 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Portable Stages and Building Code For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- I have and do. I agree with Bill C. A level path for as much of the distance as possible is great. NOW: : You're a sound guy. What do you care HOW your boxes get out there? It's just them grunts that are moving them, anyway. You don't actually move your OWN gear, do you? Mike Brubaker -----Original Message----- CB wrote: Speaking of through the house, how many of you, that fall in the first two titles on tonight's card, have ever tried to roll anything with wheels up a side aisle (supposing that yer not a complete idiot and have put nothing but stairs betwixt the stage and the FOH position). Not that you've even thought of having the sound guy out in the house where he can actually *hear* the show, but I digress... ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "RD" Cc: joe [at] stage-tech.com References:

Subject: RE: Skweeks vs Rope 'Ranglers (was: Re: Hi, my name is Abby!) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 19:05:33 -0700 Message-ID: <049201c740ee$8c079610$6501a8c0 [at] doom1> In-Reply-To: And if you ask Rocky, at Champagne, he did yell just that. Only once. Doom -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Joe Golden Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 5:04 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Skweeks vs Rope 'Ranglers (was: Re: Hi, my name is Abby!) For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Rocky once told me "We stand behind our work, not under it" But I think you don't want to hear a rigger say "HEADS!" -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Bill Sapsis Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 3:34 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Skweeks vs Rope 'Ranglers (was: Re: Hi, my name is Abby!) For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- On 1/24/07 4:44 PM, "Stephen Litterst" wrote: > Hopefully it won't be hitting the deck. Although, that's often the > result when someone has been rigging without a plan in place. Rocky Paulson is fond of saying......"What do you never want to hear a rigger say?" Answer..."What's next?" He's right, of course, a rigger should always have a plan the runs all the way through the production. But stuff happens. You may not always know what's going to be coming at you, but you should always have a plan for when you find out. Bill S. ETCP Certified Rigger - Theatre ETCP Council Member www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 267.278.4561 mobile ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "RD" References: Subject: RE: Skweeks vs Rope 'Ranglers (was: Re: Hi, my name is Abby!) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 19:05:33 -0700 Message-ID: <049601c740ee$8cfaa8a0$6501a8c0 [at] doom1> In-Reply-To: Nor do I. Other means must be taken .... much more efficient and much more effective. Doom Promptly, hmn. -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of ladesigners [at] juno.com Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 5:25 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Skweeks vs Rope 'Ranglers (was: Re: Hi, my name is Abby!) For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- I don't care who yells 'HEADS!' as long as someone does, promptly. /s/ Richard _____________________________ But I think you don't want to hear a rigger say "HEADS!" ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3196.205.215.253.41.1169777895.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 18:18:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: And yet another introduction from a bumbling college student From: "Bill Nelson" > I am Katrina Wiechmann and am a sophomore at Randolph-Macon Woman's > College: that lovely institution at which Paul spends so much time, > supposedly TDing, but half the time we aren't really sure what he's > doing. ;) I am one of his elusive stagecraft students, and am writing > an introduction to get out of any greater torture which he may decide > to foist on us. I have also work-studied for him for 1.5 years, so I > feel comfortable saying he can be a hum- sometimes.like when he > IMs me at 11pm and tells me I have a homework assignment to do, but > makes me try to figure out what it is on my own. Ah. A light hearted sense of humor. Paul knows how to pick his work-study students. Welcome. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <45B96600.8010306 [at] uwosh.edu> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:22:56 -0600 From: Mick Alderson Subject: Re: digi. projector Tony Tambasco wrote: > The more I'm thinking about this backup > scenario, and the more my OCD is kicking in, the more > it's making sense to me to roll a custom knoppix cd > with OO.org and basic utils, but no frill to get in > the way, and a single link on the desktop to the > presentation. Nothing ever has to touch the hard drive > of the presenter machine (except for a few swap > files). Now there's a thought (although I use Puppy Linux instead of Knoppix as my preferred LiveCD distribution)! "Sir, stand back while I load my computer onto yours!" Think they'd go for it? :-) -- Mick Alderson TD, Fredric March Theatre Univ. of Wis. Oshkosh ------------------------------ Message-ID: <45c56d340701251839l36ef5feao33d1a6f56854a81 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 21:39:49 -0500 From: "Jared Fortney" Subject: Internally threaded bolt Anyone know where I could find a bolt with internal threads instead of external threads? Basically I want a hollow tube, threaded on the inside, with a head on one end. Any ideas? -Jared Fortney Swing Tech Cirque's Corteo ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 21:44:45 -0500 Subject: A message from the LRLR From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Greetings one and all. Not to worry, I'll be brief. 1) We're riding this year through New England. 2) We're riding for the same 2 very worthy causes Broadway Cares/Equity Fights Aids The ESTA Foundation's Behind The Scenes. 2a) The donation pages will be online in the very near future. 3) We're looking for more riders. There are several of you at there that have said.."You bet. I'm in. I'm riding with you this year." Well, if you really want to ride you have to do the paperwork. I need all of you that want to ride to get your registrations and deposits in to me as quickly as possible. I'm booking hotel rooms and I have to know how many rooms I'll need. 4) If you live along the route and want to do something nice for the riders like maybe spot them a lunch...or at least stand by the side of the road & wave, you should get in touch with one of us so we can organize it. The ride start July 29th at the Art Museum in Philadelphia. There will be a party at my house the day before. Check out the route and see where and how you'd like to participate. Thanks Back to your regularly scheduled program. Bill S. ETCP Certified Rigger - Theatre ETCP Council Member www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 267.278.4561 mobile The LRLR '07 ride...Philly - Syracuse - Ottawa - Middlebury - St. Johnsbury - Bar Harbor - Bangor - White river Junction - Lakeville - Philly C'mon and join the fun. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 22:01:32 -0500 From: Josh Ratty Subject: RE: electricity to revolving stage In-reply-to: Reply-to: josh.ratty [at] verizon.net Message-id: <007501c740f6$493d6000$6401a8c0 [at] Rattys> You've been to Texas, yes? Josh Ratty -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Rigger Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 4:44 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: electricity to revolving stage Are there any places left where the phrase "he needed killin'" is a parctical defense? -- Dave Vick ------------------------------ Message-ID: <654a29640701251907n1b0ffe62w3bd627ee279f239f [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 22:07:20 -0500 From: "Alexandra Barrett" Subject: Intro Hi, This is just an introduction from a college student. I'm Alex and I just starting taking Paul's class. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3278.205.215.253.41.1169780926.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 19:08:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Internally threaded bolt From: "Bill Nelson" > Anyone know where I could find a bolt with internal threads instead of > external threads? Basically I want a hollow tube, threaded on the > inside, with a head on one end. Any ideas? Can it be short? How about a lug nut for an automobile or truck? The only problem is that it would be closed at one end. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <5ea592860701251918w4073fae0yb71689d47b110523 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 22:18:09 -0500 From: "Hannah Hudson" Subject: Hi, my name is Hannah.....and I'm a Theatre Major *gasp* Hi Everyone, I'm another one of Paul's many admirerers (sp?) and have very much enjoyed my first few weeks of reading the mailing list. You guys are the perfect blend of entertainment and information *wink*. Here's some info about me: Stage Management is my niche. I'm an avid member of light crew, and am currently working on perfecting my skills as a Scenic Designer.....I think that's enough for a first introduction. Cheers, Hannah ------------------------------ Message-ID: <45B97918.80606 [at] fuse.net> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 22:44:24 -0500 From: Stuart Wheaton Reply-To: sdwheaton [at] fuse.net Subject: Re: Internally threaded bolt References: In-Reply-To: Jared Fortney wrote: > Anyone know where I could find a bolt with internal threads instead of > external threads? Basically I want a hollow tube, threaded on the > inside, with a head on one end. Any ideas? Jared, You don't mention the size you need, so... Standoffs or spacers for electronics stuff, maybe up to 10-24 or so... 'Sex Bolts" used in furniture and the like, 1/4" & maybe 5/16" Coupling nuts, Turn down the hex on the rest of the barrel? I have a small metal lathe, if you only need a few I'd be happy to send them off as long as these are not for hanging people over tanks of sharks. If you only need a few and you can tell me the dimensions I'll just get some raw stock and make 'em for you...(same rules about shark tanks...) You bailed me out a few years ago, If I can help, let me know... Stuart ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <82E34C5F-1D3C-4F64-80D9-4FD0505A2E79 [at] dopher.com> From: "C. Dopher" Subject: Re: Full Monty Sign Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 22:34:55 -0500 Brad asked: > Can someone please help me? No, but I can tell you how it was done before. :) > > Oh yes there is one more item... The Lighting Designer had no input > into th= > is design, he just gets to come in and find out how good it is! I > was used = > as a specific answer person... you know, 'if we have this many > lights like = > this how many dimmers would we use?'. Completely blind to the > "incidental" = > variables, ie; wire guage, type of lamps, etc.... On Broadway, not counting the embedded ministrobes in the sign, we used 26 channels & dimmers to power 28,565 watts worth of sign. The only supplemental blinders needed were directed at audience members on the extreme sides of the orchestra and balcony, who were otherwise spared the Insta-Tan� of the show's final moment. Cris Dopher ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <84C4DC47-C9FD-4295-B5AB-07411280D84F [at] dopher.com> From: "C. Dopher" Subject: Re: Full Monty Sign Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 22:40:18 -0500 Stephen wrote: > You need a lamp that directs the light towards the audience. Do you > have time to rewire/refit the sign for MR-16s? Even a low-wattage, > low-voltage household MR-16 should be pretty effective at silhouetting > the performers and partially blinding the audience. Damn. Forgot to mention that it was clear R-40s used on b-way, IIRC. Cris Dopher ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: James Feinberg Subject: Re: Internally threaded bolt Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 19:41:10 -0800 I've seen them for bolting cabinets together. They may not be big enough for what you want (they're generally 5mm), but take a look at the connector bolts and panel bolts from Rockler on this page: http://www.rockler.com/CategoryView.cfm?Cat_ID=115 --James Feinberg San Diego, CA On Jan 25, 2007, at 6:39 PM, Jared Fortney wrote: > Anyone know where I could find a bolt with internal threads instead of > external threads? Basically I want a hollow tube, threaded on the > inside, with a head on one end. Any ideas? ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 04:01:07 GMT Subject: Re: Skweeks vs Rope 'Ranglers (was: Re: Hi, my name is Abby!) Message-Id: <20070125.200125.15672.1084841 [at] webmail31.lax.untd.com> Well, I could have quoted the US Supreme Court in the Brown v. Topeka = case: "With all deliberate speed" but I don't think thats fast enough. /s/ Richard __________________________________ Nor do I. Other means must be taken .... much more efficient and much = more effective. Doom Promptly, hmn. = ___________________________ I don't care who yells 'HEADS!' as long as someone does, promptly. /s/ Richard _____________________________ But I think you don't want to hear a rigger say "HEADS!" ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 04:09:04 GMT Subject: Re: Portable Stages and Building Code Message-Id: <20070125.200934.15672.1084873 [at] webmail31.lax.untd.com> I concur, too! = Barrier-free access is desirable for reasons beyond ADA compliance. /s/ Richard ____________________________ IS THE WORD, ABSOLUTELY. DOOM AGREE! --------------------------------------------------- I have and do. I agree with Bill C. A level path for as much of the distance as possible is great. NOW: : You're a sound guy. What do you care HOW your boxes get out there? = It's just them grunts that are moving them, anyway. You don't actually = move your OWN gear, do you? Mike Brubaker -----Original Message----- CB wrote: Speaking of through the house, how many of you, that fall in the = first two titles on tonight's card, have ever tried to roll anything with = wheels up a side aisle (supposing that yer not a complete idiot and have put = nothing but stairs betwixt the stage and the FOH position). Not that you've = even thought of having the sound guy out in the house where he can actually *hear* the show, but I digress... ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 04:15:51 GMT Subject: Re: Stagecraft list swag at USITT... Message-Id: <20070125.201639.15672.1084891 [at] webmail31.lax.untd.com> Dear Noah, Sounds like a good plan. Does anyone have any Stage Expo floor passes? /s/ Richard Is anyone on the list exhibiting at USITT in March who might be = willing to put something out? I have a few ideas, so email me = directly at stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net and I can tell you more. Maybe if there's some left, others on the list can get it... or maybe = you'll need to wait for the next trade show if this goes over well = and I do it again :-) Thanks, Noah ------------------------------ From: "Steven Santos" Subject: RE: electricity to revolving stage Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 23:17:50 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > Even so, when you are plugged into P1, aren't P2-P6 also energized? > Even with covered pins this doesn't seem wise to me. What happens if the > deck electricians misscommunicate and Cable1 and Cable2 are plugged > simultaneously? You still only have 125v/15a to the table. Using two wires doesn't change that. ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <7293E9CD-C949-4032-B6AC-85577CB22D21 [at] rochester.rr.com> From: Bruce Purdy Subject: Re: Projectors Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 23:41:55 -0500 On 25 Jan 2007, at 20:22, ladesigners [at] juno.com wrote: > A computer power supply will come with a polarized 4 conductor power > connector that should match the power connector on the back of the CD > drive, and there should be a momentary switch on the face of the CD > player that you can wire a momentary switch in parallel with. Thanks Richard - and you too Jerry - for your clarification. I'll have to get a power supply and put this thing together. Bruce ____________________ Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3b5761e70701252123h3cac15ffp2f5afdb74c2ffc7f [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 00:23:57 -0500 From: "Sara Rechnitzer" Subject: Hello All! My name is Sara and I am one of Paul Schreiner's stagecraft students. I am a senior basketball player/religious studies major and the world of theatre is brand new to me, so I look forward to learning from you guys! ------------------------------ From: "Jared Fortney" Cc: sdwheaton [at] fuse.net Subject: RE: Internally threaded bolt Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 00:23:05 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <45b9908f.23e7ea96.52c1.023d [at] mx.google.com> Thanks all, I think I found what I need. To fill in the details I was too rushed to include, I'm trying to find a replacement for a rivet in one of our prop pieces. This piece sees considerable shear force across the rivet and the steel is too soft to last very long. Hopefully I can replace the rivet with a sex bolt and get a bit longer life. Thanks again for all the ideas. BTW, for all the new list members, this is what it's (mostly) all about. I got the help I needed and then some while I was off running a show. I love it! -Jared Fortney Swing Tech Cirque's Corteo ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 21:32:22 -0800 (PST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: On Fri, 26 Jan 2007, Sara Rechnitzer wrote: > My name is Sara and I am one of Paul Schreiner's stagecraft students. > I am a senior basketball player/religious studies major and the world > of theatre is brand new to me, so I look forward to learning from you > guys! Oh, you'll learn, all right.... you'll learn.... and one of the best things to learn here is when to cover your ears and when to hold your tongue... er, fingers.... Welcome!! Charlie | Charlie Richmond - Richmond Sound Design - Skype: charlierichmond | | http://www.RichmondSoundDesign.com "Performance for the Long Run" | | Show Control List: http://www.RichmondSoundDesign.com/sclist.html | | SoundMan List: http://www.RichmondSoundDesign.com/sndmanlist.html | ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <695CB2FA-18E0-46A4-8786-94967F047B64 [at] tany.com> From: Brian Aldous Subject: Re:Projectors Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 00:52:19 -0500 On Jan 25, 2007, at 4:49 PM, Steve Shelley wrote: > Another way that I've seen an inexpensive douser in the past is > with a color > scroller. As I recall the seam between clear acetate and complete > opaque was > on a diagonal cut, like the ubiquitous "split color" used in ERS > units with > a gobo to project an image with two colors. The speed of the douse was > controlled through a submaster. But I cannot recall the visual end > result, > if the diagonal helped, hindered the fade, or if a straight > vertical cut > might have succeeded just as well. > > Fwiw. > > Hth, > > shelley I've done the scroller thing. The string was: Clear (Gm1505) then a series of increasingly grey greys (Gm 1514 through 1518) then a frame of opaque mylar, then another sheet of clear. The idea was that 0% to 80% I could fade to black, full to 80% would snap to black. The projections designer & I discussed it, it sounded good, he called it in to wybron color xpress and we were in business. Of course it didn't work quite as we had hoped. The lines between frames was VERY distinct. And the mylar, of course, reflected all 5000 lumen back at the projector. Fortunately, this was rear projection, so we were able to shroud the sucker, and with very careful coordination - projection fading to "video black" while running the scroll... (sooo many part & link cues), and we eventually achieved something the director deemed acceptable. The virtue, of course, is being able to control it in the board, and it was a lot cheaper than the City douser, the idea of which I like but whose price point makes it impossible for any of my clients to purchase. (and in that case, wasn't out yet although Andrew told me it was in development at the time.) If renting, that's another matter... I have also used external dousers (like the Wybron Eclipse) and been fairly happy with the results. I'll probably go back to that next time I have to do this. Unless I can persuade some scenic to paint me an evenly graded scroll with heat-resistant paint... BA Brian Aldous Lighting Design brian [at] tany.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20070126055351.4745.qmail [at] web82208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 21:53:51 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Heinicke Subject: Intros With all of the introductions recently, does anyone else feel like we are at a meeting of Stagecrafters Anonymous or something?? :) Mike Heinicke ------------------------------ Message-ID: <45B999D3.3060709 [at] kylerglaze.com> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 00:04:03 -0600 From: Kyler Glaze Subject: Introductions With all of the student introductions, I figure I might as well hop on the bandwagon too, although I've already posted a few times. My name is Kyler Glaze and I'm a junior at The University of Texas at Arlington. I'm currently the treasurer and webmaster for our student chapter of USITT and the webmaster for our theatre department. I'm a carpenter and computer geek, I was work-study in the scene shop at UTA for my first two years, and I'm very interested in rigging. In the few months I've been lurking on the list I'd have to say Dave Vick's saying a couple of days ago had to have been the funniest thing I've seen thus far. "I'd rather have a daughter in a whorehouse than a son in sound reinforcement." Brilliant. -- Kyler Glaze kyler [at] kylerglaze.com Treasurer/Webmaster USITT [at] UTA http://www.usittuta.org/ Webmaster UTA Dept. of Theatre Arts http://www.uta.edu/theatre/ ------------------------------ Subject: Request for Technical Resumes for Educator Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 00:14:41 -0600 Message-ID: <0B9945FBD68EFC4FA0374DF4201B0C560285F978 [at] EMPMAIL.ad.csbsju.edu> From: "White, Brian" I am putting together a workshop for my undergraduate students on = resumes and portfolios, and would love to get a few more examples for = them from some recent MFA Grads, or anyone else for that matter in = technical theater, specifically Technical Direction, Stage Management, = and Master Carps. I will be lightly editing the resumes to ensure the = students aren't reproducing them, but using them as some style guides. = Feel free to contact me off list with questions or comments.=20 Thank you in advance =20 Brian K. White=20 Technical Director=20 Benedicta Art Center=20 College of Saint Benedict=20 37 South College Ave. St. Joseph MN, 56374 320.363.5386 320.363.6097 fax www.csbsju.edu/finearts=20 =20 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <58f67b0f0701252225x7bd6a4a4qa51ec7fd8f1a4dc3 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 00:25:18 -0600 From: "Michael Powers" Subject: Re: electricity to revolving stage Michael de Almeida writes: <> A few years back I built a pancake slip ring for a large turntable. It had 11 20 amp circuits and one 60 amp circuit. Conventional slip rings are built like a vertical cylinder or column divided into a number of rings stacked on top of each other. A small number of circuits can quickly add up to a lot of height. 12 circuits with neutrals and 4 grounds [at] 3/4" space needed for each conductor adds up to 21" of height without any allowance for bearings, clearance etc. That makes for a rather tall turntable. A pancake style is like a large disk divided up into discrete rings, a little like Saturn's rings. My unit had an over all height of only 5-3/4". Of course, TANSTAFL, it was almost 4' in diameter. It occupied the major portion of the center segment of the table. Commercial slip rings are indeed expensive. At the time I did this, the commercial price for a 12 circuit pancake style ring was $3400. I spent less than $700 on parts. As I was salaried, my labor was not part of the equation. A couple of things, for anything over 24 v, don't use metal on metal home made brushes. It's just not worth it. I bought commercial brush replacements for about $11and they had the proper springs for the correct pressure. They didn't arc, maintained good contact at all times, were self lubricating, etc. BTW, If you make your own slip ring and it arcs or flickers, your spring pressure is too little and/or your turn table is not running smoothly!!! With today's wide range of low voltage/high intensity light sources, incandescent and LED, low voltage would work for most applications. That is if you don't need speciffic 120vac for convential stage lights or, as in my case, the designer has a 5K fresnel built into one of the set pieces(the reason for the one 60 amp circuit!!) The second major cost was a 4' square, 1/8" thick copper plate. I cut it into a series of concentric rings separated by 1/8" plastic insulating rings. One thing I feel was a major plus about the ring design was that, like inverse casters, I inverted the brushes. By that I mean that the brushes were mounted on a plate on the floor and were stationary. The copper rings were mounted to the underside of the turntable center segment. This meant that dust, dirt etc could not build up on the surface of the rings. The wiping action of the brushes would actually clean off anything that tried to stick. I built the unit in '93, last I heard, it was still going fine, not even a brush needing replacement as yet. Michael Michael Powers Director of Operations Central Lighting & Equipment 1720 Fuller Rd. Suite 150 West Des Moines Iowa 50265 515-277-4190 877-977-4190 Fax 515-277-2295 515-557-0178 cell michael [at] clelights.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3655.205.215.253.41.1169792770.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 22:26:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: electricity to revolving stage From: "Bill Nelson" > First, put the casters on the deck with the wheels facing up. Then, > feed the power and control cables loosely through the center pivot > pipe of the revolve. Since the revolve never has to turn more than > 120 degrees left or right of its original position, nothing ever > needs to be repatched, as finely stranded cables are flexible enough > to function without entering a failure mode during the run of a show. In Judy's original description, she stated that the revolve would be turning multiple turns - and only in a clockwise direction. If only a 120 degree rotation back and forth were used, your solution above would be the obvious method to handle it. Except the cable would not have to run between the wheels. It could run on upper surface of the revolve, between whatever separates the two "upstage" wedges from each other. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3992.205.215.253.41.1169807130.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 02:25:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: electricity to revolving stage From: "Bill Nelson" > If the three sets are the same size (120 degrees each) then each set > can have it's own Soca or Power/DMX pair at the base of the SR wall. > Then you can alternate two different umbilicals (Or have three > umbilicals ) behind the turntable. Lights out, Unplug one, and turn. > This way you can have more time to make the new connection for next > scene during this scene. Lights are ready to come up even before the > turn if you wish, but must go out before it turns again. Yep. This is probably the easiest method, and you don't have to worry about overtwisting a power cable or data cable. But I would rather have the connectors on the turntable at the SL wall of each scene. This assumes clockwise rotation. The connectors would be on the trailing edge of each 120 degree scene, and assumes that the unused scenes are masked from the audience view. There would not be any uncovered hot terminals exposed. The main failure modes are the stagehand forgetting to plug in the circuits for the next scene, someone tripping over the cables, and getting a cable under a wheel. Actually, if the two unused scenes are masked from audience view, there is a way to use this idea and have the lights on the set being rotated out as well as the lights on the new set both up at the same time. It assumes that the lit unused set won't cause light problems backstage, such as on a cyc. Once the set has been rotated, the newest "out" set would be uncircuited and the next set to be used would be circuited up. The jacks for the power/control of each set would be at the junction of the two unused sets - e.g. directly USC of the active set. That means that, when the set is next to rotate into view, the power connectors would be DSR, where they could be plugged in. When the active set is rotated out of view, the connectors are at the DSL masked position, where they can be uncircuited and the cables moved back to DSR for the next time the scene is used. This would require some careful cable tending to make sure cables don't get under wheels and that the three cable sets don't get mixed up with each other. If the number of dimmers are limited, with careful programming, the same dimmers could be used on more than one set - and only two cable sets would be needed. Each time a particular set is connected, it would be on the cable set that was not used with that set the previous time. It would be critical to get the right cable at the top of the show - pretty easy to do during light check. The best place for the source end of the cables would be USC of the turntable. This would minimize the lengths of cables needed. Intriguing idea. I will have to remember it in case I ever get called on to light such a turntable with lots of practicals. Bill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 05:30:01 -0500 From: Josh Ratty Subject: RE: Internally threaded bolt In-reply-to: Reply-to: josh.ratty [at] verizon.net Message-id: <007a01c74134$efd4e440$6401a8c0 [at] Rattys> Sounds like you're looking for what is known as a "sex bolt." I presume I needn't explain why. You can likely find them through McMaster Carr or some of the other industrial supply houses. Josh Ratty -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Jared Fortney Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 9:40 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Internally threaded bolt Anyone know where I could find a bolt with internal threads instead of external threads? Basically I want a hollow tube, threaded on the inside, with a head on one end. Any ideas? -Jared Fortney Swing Tech Cirque's Corteo ------------------------------ You are subscribed as stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net End of Stagecraft Digest #1109 ******************************