Return-Path: X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 42161912; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 07:09:20 -0800 X-List-Processed: mail.prxy.net X-ListMember: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 42076628; Mon, 05 Feb 2007 03:08:09 -0800 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.1 required=5.0 tests=ADVANCE_FEE_1,AWL,NO_RECEIVED, NO_RELAYS,PRXY_USER_BODY_AMBIEN,PRXY_USER_BODY_CIALIS, PRXY_USER_BODY_COMSTAR,PRXY_USER_BODY_VALIUM,SUBJ_HAS_UNIQ_ID,TW_JG autolearn=no version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on localhost X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: List-Archive: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #1128 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 03:01:43 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #1128 1. Re: politics (which includes smoking) by Herrick Goldman 2. Re: politics (which includes smoking) by "Patrick Immel" 3. Re: Nehemiah Scudder by "paul.guncheon [at] hawaiiantel.net" 4. Re: Portfolios by "Steven Santos" 5. politics (which includes smoking) by "paul.guncheon [at] hawaiiantel.net" 6. Re: Drop boxes? by "paul.guncheon [at] hawaiiantel.net" 7. Re: Portfolios by Kevin Lee Allen 8. Re: Nehemiah Scudder by Herrick Goldman 9. Re: politics (which includes smoking) by Jacqueline Haney Kidwell 10. Re: politics (which includes smoking) by Pat Kight 11. Re: Nehemiah Scudder by Pat Kight 12. Re: politics (which includes smoking) by Rigger 13. Re: politics (which includes smoking) by "Patrick Immel" 14. Re: Drop boxes? by Mick Alderson 15. Re: Automated Alarms by "Bill Conner" 16. Re: Drop boxes? by Loren Schreiber 17. Re: Drop boxes? by Simon Shuker 18. Re: Socopex Alternative by "Ken Romaine" 19. Re: Drop boxes? by "Jon Lagerquist" 20. Vectorworks label legends by "Thea Cooper" 21. Re: politics (which includes smoking) by Bruce Purdy 22. Re: Drop boxes? by "Don Taco" 23. Re: politics (which includes smoking) by Bruce Purdy 24. Re: Vectorworks label legends by Steve Shelley 25. Re: Socopex Alternative by seanrmc [at] earthlink.net 26. Re: Drop boxes? by "Jon Ares" 27. Costumer Question by "Dana Taylor" 28. Re: Portfolios by Steve Shelley 29. Re: politics (which includes smoking) by Rigger 30. Re: Portfolios by 31. Re: High School curriculum by CB 32. AARP by CB 33. Re: Nehemiah Scudder by 34. Re: Rosco Image Pro by CB 35. Sig (was: Re: Automated Alarms) by CB 36. Re: L Hand/R Hand by CB 37. Re: Nehemiah Scudder by CB 38. G-mail issues (was: Re: Portfolios) by CB 39. Re: politics (which includes smoking) by 40. politics (which includes smoking) by CB 41. Re: Automated Alarms by CB 42. Re: DIY magazine articles for theatre? Thank you, USITT!! by "Jim, RC4 Wireless" 43. Re: G-mail issues (was: Re: Portfolios) by "Brian Munroe" 44. Re: Cello Platform by MartySrq [at] aol.com 45. Re: AARP by Shawn Palmer 46. Re: Socopex Alternative by "Joel Harari" 47. Re: G-mail issues (was: Re: Portfolios) by Chris Warner 48. Re: AARP by "Steven Santos" 49. Volunteer Coordinator by Charlie Fraser 50. Re: Cello Platform by "Jon Ares" 51. Re: Cello Platform by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 52. Re: inside-out electrical tape by "Paul Marsland" 53. Re: Cello Platform by "Don Taco" 54. Re: Socopex Alternative by "Paul Marsland" 55. Excellent musicians was Re: Rosco Image Pro by MissWisc [at] aol.com 56. Re: Automated Alarms by "Bill Nelson" 57. Re: Automated Alarms by "Occy" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 08:46:28 -0500 Subject: Re: politics (which includes smoking) From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <846983.1170586084841.JavaMail.root [at] m41> Babies are Flammatory... On 2/4/07 5:46 AM, "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" wrote: >I don't believe that Jacki's point was > that smoking and politics are non-theatrical; her point, I think, was that > those topics are inflammatory (no pun intended) and will cause ill will, to > no good purpose. > > -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 08:08:09 -0600 From: "Patrick Immel" Subject: Re: politics (which includes smoking) In-Reply-To: References: <846983.1170586084841.JavaMail.root [at] m41> I agree with Jacki. I could givve a frog's fat *ss if you smoke, what you smoked or who you are in bed with politically. The bar analogy is just an excuse to say anything you want, anytime you want. But this is the US of A and that is ok. The difference between this list and a bar is that I can move to the other end. On this list unless I know the topic I have to click and read in before I find out I'm annoyed. Frankly, I don't have the desire to filter through all of the cr*p. Usually the signal to noise ratio on this list is not too bad. Not so recently. Let me have it Dave. Whatever. -- Patrick Immel Lighting and Scenic Designer Northwest Missouri State University patrickimmel.com VW Designer V12.5 1GB Ram Dual-Core notebook Win XP sp2 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <12235728.1170600078875.JavaMail.? [at] fh123.dia.he.tucows.com> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 14:41:18 +0000 (UTC) From: "paul.guncheon [at] hawaiiantel.net" Reply-To: "paul.guncheon [at] hawaiiantel.net" Subject: Re: Nehemiah Scudder <> << Probably quite a few of us, as Heilein quotes are not uncommon in this group.>> Please don't sentence me to reading a book to find out about this character / quote. (I like to read but don't have the time these days. I seem to remember not caring much for Heinlein in any event.) Methinks a simple 1 or 2 line explanation while most probably not doing the character much justice, would help to understand Chris's phrase. "You" does not mean "me", "us" does not mean "we", "some" does not mean "all". Laters, Paul ------------------------------ From: "Steven Santos" Subject: RE: Portfolios Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 09:41:28 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: When I have my students put togeather a portfolio, this is the format I have them use: * General Information o Resume o Cover Letter o 8 x 10 color glossy photo o Biographical Page * Skills Portfolio o Certifications, Diplomas and degrees o Syllabus and Self Training Guide or o List and description of circus skills and training o Photos of you doing each of these things * Performance Portfolio o One page for each performance you have taken part in o One page for each major act you have done on stage o Practice Journal (At least the last three month’s worth) o Demo Video This is geared to performers, so you would have to modify this a bit for your specifics (e.g. page for the shows you have designed, or specific sets that you want to showcase) Here are some other general tips: - Keep your portfolio in electronic format. Its easy enough to scan in an article or pull it from the net when you start, its much harder to get it all into electronic format when a prospective employer asks for a copy. - Know what you need to omit from copies of your portfolio that you email or place on the internet. - If you keep a copy of your portfolio on the internet, make sure to keep it updated. - Resist the urge to use very large paper. Using standard letter paper you effectivly have 17x11 inches of space to work with. In general, this should be enough to show a part or production. - Have an index page at the beginning, making it easer to find the different parts. Include what major skills each page shows. - Each page, or 2 page spread is an opertunity to sell yourself to your potential employer. Have and memorize talking points for each of these pages. Its often a good idea to put these talking points on the page iself, especially for emailing portfolios. - Make sure you have pages showing all of your major skill sets. - Keep a clean and profesional look. Employers want to see your body of work, not your skills at using fancy boarders. - A demo CD/DVD makes a world of difference ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Steven Santos Director, Simply Circus, Inc. Email: Steven [at] SimplyCircus.com Mail: 14 Pierrepont Road Newton, MA 02462 Phone: 617-527-0667 Web: www.SimplyCircus.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Anneke > Ciup > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 1:50 PM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Portfolios > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hi, > I'm kinda new here, so I guess I should introduce myself, even > though I missed the introductions bandwagon last week (or was it the > week before?) > Anyway, my name is Anneke Ciup (pronounce Ah-Neh-Kah See-oop...it's > weird, I know) and I'm a Technical Theatre student at John Abbott > College (it's a CEGEP, which is kinda like a junior college...sorta, > but not really) in Montreal (Quebec, Canada). > At any rate I am applying to a couple of universities and the Work > Study program at the Banff Center (that's in Alberta, Canada) and I > need to put together a portfolio. I tried searching the archives, but > the search function is down, so I'm really sorry if you've answered > this question a million times before but...it would really help me out > if any of you who look at/have/judge portfolios could let me know what > you hate/love to see in them. > Thanks a million! > > -Anneke > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <28857183.1170600122390.JavaMail.? [at] fh123.dia.he.tucows.com> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 14:42:02 +0000 (UTC) From: "paul.guncheon [at] hawaiiantel.net" Reply-To: "paul.guncheon [at] hawaiiantel.net" Subject: politics (which includes smoking) <> While charming on the face of it, the "limitation" of topics fit for discussion on this list to include only what "off topic" topics one person finds acceptable and then having it presented in this light hearted "ha-ha" way is for some reason really chilling. Paul ------------------------------ Message-ID: <10850414.1170600842322.JavaMail.? [at] fh123.dia.he.tucows.com> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 14:54:02 +0000 (UTC) From: "paul.guncheon [at] hawaiiantel.net" Reply-To: "paul.guncheon [at] hawaiiantel.net" Subject: Re: Drop boxes? <> The simplest technique involves using door hinges as connectors along one side of the box. A "string" or "pull line" is attached to a series of "pins", one "pin" for each hinge. The actual hinge pin is not used as it fits too tightly. Replace it with a wire or nail of the appropriate diameter. Bend an eye into one end of the pin to attach it to the pull line. The pull line can be "tracked" through eye screws to keep things neat. The more hinges you use, the less weight each of them supports making pulling the line easier. Laters, Paul Tom Swifties will return... I promise ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 09:54:54 -0500 From: Kevin Lee Allen Subject: Re: Portfolios In-reply-to: Message-id: References: In short, what he said. I also started large and progressed smaller. In fact, when I was an assistant, several designers hired me to redo their portfolios. It was a niche business. A few points, all of which are easier no, in the digital age than they were only a few years back. I always presented my best drafting, reduced to fit the page format. In an 11/17 portrait format, that meant that the landscape formatted drafting was generally only about 9" wide. Producers could flip past and most designers liked the presentation. I varied the work (plans, elevations and details) so that there was something they could see almost full size. I usually printed the drafting as a reversal (white lines on a black field), often blueprinting a film negative so I had the look of a true blueprint (white lines on a blue field). I made sure that selected draftings that held up reduced. Look at the many drawings in textbooks. I photographed models in detail. I spent time lighting the models. I was careful to show my craft and my art. A smaller portfolio is extremely helpful when you are knocking on doors all day, or fitting in a meeting in the midst of running between shops. This is a project that takes time, start early. It will take some money. You need a digi cam, you need a decent printer, you need PhotoShop. Prat makes a nice line leather cases with books that remove from the case. The leather suggests success. They last a long time. Of course, there is a whole different approach. I no longer have a portfolio. I have a website and a DVD. On Feb 3, 2007, at 8:03 PM, Steve Shelley wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see stagecraft.theprices.net/> > > It seems to me that just as there is no lack of opinions as to what > should > be included in a portfolio, or how material should be presented in a > portfolio,.... That said, it needs to be well > documented, clean, and clearly presented. ----- Kevin Lee Allen Architect of Dreams http://www.klad.com 973.744.6352.voice 201.280.3841.mobile klad [at] klad.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 09:58:33 -0500 Subject: Re: Nehemiah Scudder From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3357659.1170600230598.JavaMail.root [at] m41> As always the answers are one click away http://tinyurl.com/24lunw on our old friend Wikipedia. :) However a google of "nehemiah scudder quotes" finds this: http://tinyurl.com/2655jb Wherein David Brin is auctioning off a name of an alien race (the Herrickans?) in his novel to raise funds for the first amendment project. He also laments the search the page for our friend N.S. And you find " Alberto Monteiro quoted: Bah. Heinlein must be spinning on his grave, because 2012 is the year he turned the USA into a religious dictatorship, when Nehemiah Scudder wins the "election" by getting a little over 20% of the voters of a little over half the states - enough to win in the "Electoral" College. I will eventually get around to my electoral college rant. But the depressing approach of Nehemiah Scudder is worrisome..." HTH _H On 2/4/07 9:41 AM, "paul.guncheon [at] hawaiiantel.net" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > < don't should read Robert Heinlein's "Revolt in 2100".>> > > << Probably quite a few of us, as Heilein quotes are not uncommon in > this group.>> > > Please don't sentence me to reading a book to find out about this > character / quote. (I like to read but don't have the time these days. > I seem to remember not caring much for Heinlein in any event.) Methinks > a simple 1 or 2 line explanation while most probably not doing the > character much justice, would help to understand Chris's phrase. > > "You" does not mean "me", "us" does not mean "we", "some" does not > mean "all". > > Laters, > > Paul > -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 07:49:48 -0800 (PST) From: Jacqueline Haney Kidwell Subject: Re: politics (which includes smoking) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <960704.93969.qm [at] web36203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Rigger wrote: (large snip) > That being said, I'll now say this: > > Jacki, when you lump such non-theatrical topics > as babies, bikes, and > beer into the "okay" category, while casting > the taboo on other > non-theatrical topics like public policy, it > sounds like maybe a > touch of hypocracy has leaked in. Is that > really how you wanted to > sound? I don't think so, but since I haven't > read much of your > writing, I just don't know. > > -- > Dave Vick My point, Dave (and Paul), was that people can engage in polite conversation about some topics (like babies, beer or motorcycles, or many, many other things) without starting arguments that serve no purpose. Now I personally don't care for any of those three items, but I can listen to the banter politely. Threads about certain other topics, however, inevitably become rant-fests. No one's mind is changed, but everyone is subjected to the unpleasant experience of watching a fight in what is supposed to be a pleasant, useful forum. If you want to know my personal beliefs, you may ask for them personally, off-list. I already know that you won't like many of them, and I don't agree with yours. My views on gun-control or tobacco are not relevant to any useful discussion on this list. It may be a stagecraft bar--I do like that analogy. But the politics and religion bars are down the street a bit. All I am asking is that listers be considerate. If everyone is courteous and keeps subject lines accurate, many of those who do not wish to engage in these conversations can skip them. Unfortunately those who take the digest can't do so as easily. Jacki ____________________________________________________________________________________ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <45C605F0.2030207 [at] peak.org> Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 08:12:32 -0800 From: Pat Kight Subject: Re: politics (which includes smoking) References: <846983.1170586084841.JavaMail.root [at] m41> In-Reply-To: Patrick Immel wrote: > I agree with Jacki. I could givve a frog's fat *ss if you smoke, what > you smoked or who you are in bed with politically. The bar analogy is > just an excuse to say anything you want, anytime you want. But this > is the US of A and that is ok. One minor but significant correction: "This" is not the US of A, although those of us who live in the US tend to dominate the list. This is the Internet, which transcends geographic boundaries. It's worth trying to keep that in mind, because the US-centric viewpoint - and reactions to that - is often what gets us in trouble here, conversation-wise. -- Pat Kight kightp [at] peak.org ------------------------------ Message-ID: <45C6066F.3080503 [at] peak.org> Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 08:14:39 -0800 From: Pat Kight Subject: Re: Nehemiah Scudder References: In-Reply-To: paul.guncheon [at] hawaiiantel.net wrote: > Please don't sentence me to reading a book to find out about this > character / quote. (I like to read but don't have the time these days. > I seem to remember not caring much for Heinlein in any event.) Methinks > a simple 1 or 2 line explanation while most probably not doing the > character much justice, would help to understand Chris's phrase. Wikipedia, like Google, is your friend: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nehemiah_Scudder -- Pat Kight kightp [at] peak.org ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <846983.1170586084841.JavaMail.root [at] m41> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 11:33:24 -0500 From: Rigger Subject: Re: politics (which includes smoking) At 8:08 AM -0600 2/4/07, Patrick Immel wrote: > The bar analogy is >just an excuse to say anything you want, anytime you want. But this >is the US of A and that is ok. Actually this is the Planet Earth, strictly speaking. You may have noticed a large contingency from the eastern side of the Atlantic Ocean posting here. >The difference between this list and a >bar is that I can move to the other end. On this list unless I know >the topic I have to click and read in before I find out I'm annoyed. You're free to move on down to the other end of this-here "virtual bar" by deleting-by-subject-line or kill-filing-by-author. Easy-peasy. -- Dave Vick rigger [at] tds.net I almost don't feel the way I do. ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 10:38:56 -0600 From: "Patrick Immel" Subject: Re: politics (which includes smoking) In-Reply-To: References: <846983.1170586084841.JavaMail.root [at] m41> On 2/4/07, Pat Kight wrote: > One minor but significant correction: "This" is not the US of A, > although those of us who live in the US tend to dominate the list. This > is the Internet, which transcends geographic boundaries. It's worth > trying to keep that in mind, because the US-centric viewpoint - and > reactions to that - is often what gets us in trouble here, > conversation-wise. Right on Pat! I apologize! Cyberspace is not a country...yet! :-) Another Pat ------------------------------ Message-ID: <45C60C0F.9060608 [at] uwosh.edu> Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 10:38:39 -0600 From: Mick Alderson Subject: RE: Drop boxes? "Ben Truong" wrote > > Hello. I was wondering if anyone knew how to construct a Drop Box. I > will be making 2 different kinds. one to drop a piece of fabric 8 feet > by 20 feet and the other one will be dropping 1.5" circle confetti. > the box will probably be 8" in width. I would like a pull string one. > I don't really want to get into the electrical things. Thanks > > Ben Truong It's pretty easy. Build a box the size you need. Hinge the bottom instead of nailing/screwing it using a couple of tight-pin hinges on, say, the upstage side. Secure the downstage edge with a loose-pin hinge. Bend up a coat-hanger wire pin with a loop on one end. Put it through the loose-pin hinge to hold the bottom closed. Run the pull-cord off stage. Pull cord to release! I usually install a small loop or eye-screw slightly further from the loose-pin hinge than the pull-pin is long, and run the cord through it. That way, when you pull the pin out of the hinge the pin doesn't fall down into sight of the audience. The same principle can be used with a fabric cradle using loops along one edge of the fabric as half the "loose-pin hinge" and eye screws in a long wooden batten as the other half. Use a series of wire pins connected with one long pull cord to hold, then drop, the cradle. Put whatever you want to drop inside the cradle. You can ALSO use the same principle to drop, say, a rubber chicken during the barn dance scene of a rehearsal of, say, "Oklahoma!" Who, ME? ;-) -- Mick Alderson TD, Fredric March Theatre University of Wis. Oshkosh ------------------------------ Message-ID: <032301c7487b$88568fa0$6a01a8c0 [at] BCA1> Reply-To: "Bill Conner" From: "Bill Conner" Subject: Re: Automated Alarms Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 10:43:00 -0600 Chris is right - you want trained people in charge of crowds, not machines. There is a plethora of peer reviewed research, much of it published, that shows people behave extremely well in emergency situations. This concept of "panic" is a red herring. It's a great excuse when things go wrong - "they panicked" - but that doesn't explain anything. It is also a great headline, especially for tabloids. But the fact is, it's a bogus explanation and relying on it does more harm than good. As far as prerecorded announcements, simply responding to every notification of a detector signaling or every power outage with a message to "walk to the nearest exit" is unwise. The hazard may be real or not - and there will be more injuries from an emergency egress than a non-hazard, The hazard may be on the other side of one or more of those doors. There are many emergencies where it would be better to stay in place. Look at the record. Separate crowd crush incidents - where people unaware of a crush or crowd collapse ahead - push forward. And those reports of "people trampled"? Bogus. They died standing up, asphyxiated by the crush, and their bodies dropped to the floor when the crush ebbed. Perpetuating this kind of misinformation is dangerous and not constructive. Please don't base your decisions for safety on movies and headlines because they are very misleading. On the specific issue of alarms, codes currently permit the use of the house sound system for emergency announcements, including fire. The fire alarm industry - manufacturers and installers - is making a very big push to not allow this but to instead require only their equipment. I start with the idea that somehow the little red metal boxes with a tin cone speaker can really deliver a message with intelligibility and loudness necessary. Then consider rather than using a mic that is on stage and in their hand, they have to go backstage and use a rugged mike tethered to another red box to make announcements - like as if they can see the audience from backstage. If you care, get involved. Anyone can send in comments. Don't sit back now and when the regs change complain it's stupid and dangerous. Bill Conner ASTC, ETCP CR-T ------------------------------ Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20070204084154.045f0800 [at] mail.sdsu.edu> Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 08:51:41 -0800 From: Loren Schreiber Subject: Re: Drop boxes? In-Reply-To: References: Check back copies of the Tech Expo Catalog or Yale Tech Briefs. There are probably a dozen ways of dropping things between them. However, you may discover that figuring out the answer on your own might be more fun. You might even come up with a method that no one else has. (Well, it *could* happen.) Or you might pose the question to the list this way: "I have an idea for dropping . What do you think?" On the other hand, you could train 4096 hamsters to crawl along the batten with the cloth in their teeth and have them all yawn at the same time. You could fly a sweet young thing on a rig by Foy or ZFX or . . . . and have her gracefully distribute paper confetti from a basket on her arm. Or instead of these old, tried-and-true methods, you could think *outside* the box. Just warming up . . . gotta get some more coffee . . . Loren "Grits" Schreiber Long Reach Long Rider: "Out of the Wings and Into the Wind!" Supporting Broadway Cares/Equity Fights AIDS and Behind the Scenes http://www.lrlr.org ------------------------------ Message-ID: <45C611AB.4090700 [at] ef-ae.com> Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 21:02:35 +0400 From: Simon Shuker Organization: The Events Factory Subject: Re: Drop boxes? References: In-Reply-To: Loren Schreiber wrote: > Snipped > > Just warming up . . . gotta get some more coffee . . . Take you time!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > Loren "Grits" Schreiber > Long Reach Long Rider: "Out of the Wings and Into the Wind!" > Supporting Broadway Cares/Equity Fights AIDS and Behind the Scenes > http://www.lrlr.org > > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 12:22:06 -0500 From: "Ken Romaine" Subject: Re: Socopex Alternative In-Reply-To: References: Joel: TMB has two lines of 19-pin connectors, the Pro-Series and the KC series. The Pro-Series is the more expensive, best quality. The KC line is the economy model. Pro-Series info here: http://www.tmb.com/products/ProSeries/ KC line info here: http://www.tmb.com/products/kc/ TMB also sells the Veam & Socapex lines. http://www.tmb.com/ Lex Products, http://www.lexproducts.com/ also carries this style of connector. Their's are called LSC connectors. http://www.lexproducts.com/catalog/connectors/lsc19.htm or http://tinyurl.com/3ahv5e Both of these outfits have good reputations and make good connectors, although the connector lines have different features. All of these connectors are (supposed to be) inter-connectable. BTW, you may need to purchase thru one of their dealers. Call them directly to find out. Full disclosure: I worked for TMB in a former life. Lex is one of their competitors. Hope this enlightens. -- Ken Romaine Business Development Manager Barco Media & Entertainment The opinions expressed here are mine - all mine - no matter how much I want to impose them on the rest of the world. On 2/4/07, Joel Harari wrote: > > So currently we are using a Veam connection which is just like a 19 pin > Socopex except it only needs a quarter turn to make the connection. > > My question is does anyone know of another alternative? > > It needs to be able to handle 6 circuits of 20 amps [at] 120 volts, and be able > to take some abuse. > > Thanks in Advance > > Joel Harari ------------------------------ From: "Jon Lagerquist" Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 09:26:38 -0800 Subject: Re: Drop boxes? Reply-to: jon [at] lagerquist.com Message-ID: <45C5A6CE.5142.15541DEA [at] jon.lagerquist.com> In-reply-to: References: Ben, In you process I would suggest that you not limit yourself to a box, for what you are dropping a bag can also work. Jon Lagerquist Technical Director [at] South Coast Repertory Costa Mesa, CA ------------------------------ Message-ID: <6ef616600702040928s457d5e4cu85894cdcb37900c [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 12:28:14 -0500 From: "Thea Cooper" Subject: Vectorworks label legends I'm working aon a plot in vw 11.5, and the designer asked that the channels be in 14 pt. This makes the number too big for the little circle-dealy. Is there a way to change the size of the circle? or do I have no choice but to scale the font size back? Thanks, Thea ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: <846983.1170586084841.JavaMail.root [at] m41> Message-Id: <591496F4-1B52-4708-9282-72AD020DC274 [at] rochester.rr.com> From: Bruce Purdy Subject: Re: politics (which includes smoking) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 12:35:44 -0500 On 4 Feb 2007, at 11:33, Rigger wrote: > You're free to move on down to the other end of this-here "virtual > bar" by deleting-by-subject-line or kill-filing-by-author. > > Easy-peasy. Dave, have you ever tried reading this list in digest form? I don't anymore, but try doing so for a while so you can understand what a lot of list members experience. (The old "Walk a mile in their shoes" thing.) Also, for those of us on the individual message version, the subject line isn't always a reliable solution as threads often morph into something entirely different without the "subject" getting changed. It's interesting that a plea to limit controversial and emotionally divisive topics could itself be so controversial and divisive! Bruce ____________________ Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Message-ID: <003701c74883$a1513d40$e28aaa43 [at] DonTaco> From: "Don Taco" References: Subject: Re: Drop boxes? Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 09:40:57 -0800 > Laters, > > Paul > > Tom Swifties will return... > > I promise > Swiftly, we assume. ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: <846983.1170586084841.JavaMail.root [at] m41> Message-Id: From: Bruce Purdy Subject: Re: politics (which includes smoking) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 12:41:08 -0500 On 4 Feb 2007, at 11:12, Pat Kight wrote: > One minor but significant correction: "This" is not the US of A, > although those of us who live in the US tend to dominate the list. > This is the Internet, which transcends geographic boundaries. We declare a war on "Terror" - a tactic that transcends borders, races and ideologies, and live on the internet that likewise transcends such boundaries. It seems that "Countries" are less relevant than they once might have been. > It's worth trying to keep that in mind, because the US-centric > viewpoint - and reactions to that - is often what gets us in > trouble here, conversation-wise. And in the world at large! Bruce ____________________ Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 13:11:13 -0500 Subject: Re: Vectorworks label legends From: Steve Shelley Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Hello thea. I will call you and explain how to increase circle container size. In the future for vectorworks issues you may want to consider posing these specific vectorworks questions on the vectorworks list: http://lists.nemetschek.net/archives/theater-l.html Hth, shelley On 2/4/07 12:28 PM, "Thea Cooper" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I'm working aon a plot in vw 11.5, and the designer asked that the > channels be in 14 pt. This makes the number too big for the little > circle-dealy. Is there a way to change the size of the circle? or do I > have no choice but to scale the font size back? > Thanks, > Thea -- Steve Shelley SoftSymbols Designer MrTemplate [at] Earthlink.net www.fieldtemplate.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <32484110.1170613163658.JavaMail.root [at] elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 13:19:23 -0500 (EST) From: seanrmc [at] earthlink.net Reply-To: seanrmc [at] earthlink.net Subject: Re: Socopex Alternative Joel, Could you clarify a bit why you need an alternative? Do you need it to be able to mate to Soco-style (Veam, whoever else, etc)? Or is this for "its own" project? Are you looking for a cheaper but compatible connector? --Sean Sean R McCarthy seanrmc [at] earthlink.net -----Original Message----- >From: Joel Harari > >So currently we are using a Veam connection which is just like a 19 pin >Socopex except it only needs a quarter turn to make the connection. > >My question is does anyone know of another alternative? > >It needs to be able to handle 6 circuits of 20 amps [at] 120 volts, and be able >to take some abuse. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <007301c74889$62299440$0400000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" Cc: paul.guncheon [at] hawaiiantel.net References: Subject: Re: Drop boxes? Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 10:22:09 -0800 > Paul > > Tom Swifties will return... > > I promise > "I'll be back with some of my Tiffen camera lens filters," Tom promised. - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Message-Id: <45C5D0BA020000AE00004F95 [at] gw1.msdmv.k12.in.us> Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 12:25:30 -0600 From: "Dana Taylor" Subject: Costumer Question I seek the wisdom of the group. Have any of you used "The Costumer" for your shows? We find ourselves = without our local costumer for the first time in a decade and are trying = to find someone to do our production of "The King and I". Thanks for any comments as to their quality and reliability.=20 Dana W. Taylor Mt. Vernon Sr. High School 812.833-5932 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 13:54:08 -0500 Subject: Re: Portfolios From: Steve Shelley Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Hi steven; I've encountered no small number of digital portfolios; they've become much more prevalent in the last five years. Like anything else it seems they are both a boon and a bane. When cd's started becoming the alternate format for providing a copy of one's portfolio, I received many that were the "reduced" size--they were smaller cd, or trimmed-to-size of business card size; they were not a full cd size. I read somewhere that placing anything other than a full cd into your cd tray ran the risk of damaging the cd reader in your machine, and that's when I stopped accepting those sizes. Nowadays cd's are cheap enough, and they are more ably handled by the post (I'm still agog that netflix moves their cd's in unprotected **envelopes and doesn't end up with cd dust at the other end!). Sending a copy of your digital portfolio is now comparably simple and inexpensive. In praise of digital portfolios, I find that photos on screen look better and show much better depth than as printed matter. When the photo is scaled larger than the computer screen, though, having the distraction of panning around to different areas of the photo takes focus away from the shot itself. Drawings also look good, but again you need to be careful about the overall size of the document, so that time is spent looking at the drafting, not trying to pan around on the screen. If the pictures are to sell you as a designer, it's generally accepted that some portion of the digital photo may be enhanced by photoshop (or equivalent). Don't go overboard, though; getting caught making wholesale editing changes is still these days often perceived as a disappointment. One big problem I have, when looking at digital portfolios, is my desire to compare information. When I'm looking at a photograph of a set, I want to compare it to the color rendering. When I'm looking at a photo of a light cue, I want to compare it to the light plot, magic sheet, or cue description. For that reason, if you decide to take a laptop instead of a separate portfolio notebook for that portfolio review, consider also taking some amount of hard support copy of the drafting, the paperwork, or the things that you created that were used as reference to make the things in the photos. There have been numerous times when I've been a member of a group reviewing a digital portfolio. We've seen something exciting in the pictures on the screen, and asked to see the support paperwork. And when we've been told "it's all in the computer", it just deflates the crowd. So if my "need to compare" is the same as anyone else's, I guess one solution is to include a reduced printout of the light plot in the same envelope. Another tactic might be to include a separate pdf file of the groundplan, or some such, directly on the cd. In the "read me" file, indicate which pdf's refer to which portions of the digital portfolio. (I freely admit I'm now making this up, I have no idea if this would work. Would a reviewer actually read the "read me" file?) Hope this helps, shelley On 2/4/07 9:41 AM, "Steven Santos" wrote: > - A demo CD/DVD makes a world of difference -- Steve Shelley SoftSymbols Designer MrTemplate [at] Earthlink.net www.fieldtemplate.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <846983.1170586084841.JavaMail.root [at] m41> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 13:57:36 -0500 From: Rigger Subject: Re: politics (which includes smoking) At 12:35 PM -0500 2/4/07, Bruce Purdy wrote: > Dave, have you ever tried reading this list in digest form? > I don't anymore, but try doing so for a while so you can > understand what a lot of list members experience. (The old > "Walk a mile in their shoes" thing.) Yeah, I must admit I forgot about the digest format for a bit, there. Mea maxima culpa. -DV ------------------------------ From: Subject: Re: Re: Portfolios Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 18:59:58 +0000 Message-Id: <20070204185958.OPMC26699.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [at] smtp.ntlworld.com> > > From: Chris Warner > Date: 2007/02/04 Sun AM 12:13:11 GMT > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Re: Portfolios > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- I am a interested in > the area of lighting design and am hoping to go to grad school in 2008 > any suggestions for me? I am unfortunately thin on production photo's > but have most of my lihting plots for work I have done. > > On another subject, how valuable is work done at smaller community theatres? As said, this is tricky. You are so much in the hands of others as LD when it comes to pruduction photographs. All the others in the design team have made a contribution, not least the director. If I were judging such a portfolio myself, I should study the actors' faces in the pictures, followed by the 'look' of the whole thing. This depends on the photographer,too. You need wide angle shots of the whole stage setting. I do not think that plots are of any value, other than showing that you can organise yourself. It is the pictures you paint with the available resources which count. Frank Wood ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070204113744.00c9be50 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 11:37:44 From: CB Subject: Re: High School curriculum >in order for a >high-school program in technology to survive and >flourish there has to be local connections to industry I'd add that if you want to ask those representatives from the local industry to come in and visit the class, that you have in mind some sort of idea what you'd like the person to speak on, and what information you'd like them to pass on to the students. If you ask them to speak on "life in the industry in general", you may get a vary different speech than you were expecting. "Just tell them stuff they need to know about sound to do basic designs and junk", were the instructions I had in one, and I was sure that I had that basic algebra and physics, not to mention basic scientific data like; the temp that water freezes and boils, air pressure (at sea level, 72 deg F, 30% humidity?), and how to subtract single digit numbers without pencil and paper, back when I was in eleventh grade. My bad... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012 ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070204115149.00c9be50 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 11:51:49 From: CB Subject: AARP >What >positions that AARP advocates do you specifically object to? I've answered this off-list, as this will turn into a bit of a rant, and I can't even stretch it to the blue-hairs in the audience to make it stagecraft related... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012 ------------------------------ From: Subject: Re: Re: Nehemiah Scudder Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 19:19:13 +0000 Message-Id: <20070204191913.NVSI29112.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [at] smtp.ntlworld.com> > > From: Chip Wood > Date: 2007/02/04 Sun AM 12:30:00 GMT > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Re: Nehemiah Scudder > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > frank.wood95 [at] ntlworld.com wrote: > > > Islam, Judaism, Buddhism,Confucianism and Christianity all offer workable moral codes by which to conduct your life. They have served their communities well for thousands of years. > > > > When they don't live by those moral codes, you have the Crusades of > Christians vs Islam, the Spanish Inquisition of Catholics vs Jews, the > post-partum India massacre of Hindus vs Islam, and too many more to > list, proves they don't work when under duress. It is when the codes get infected by politics that these things happen. I agree with you in principle. But definable differences have a bad habit of getting out of hand, and especially religious ones. It is probable that most of the religious wars were started from the premise that the other side was wrong, and that their souls needed to be saved. All by organised groups. Frank Wood ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070204120000.00c9be50 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 12:00:00 From: CB Subject: Re: Rosco Image Pro > I once had the unimaginable good luck of having an opportunity to hear >Andres Segovia play. In a relatively small community college hall. I would >swear to you that the audience members refused to breathe while he was >playing, to demonstrate their respect and to hear every note. It was Segovia. He has that effect on guitarists, too. People just can't believe that one guy is doing that with just two hands. He was the true definition of 'master'. Unfortunately, folks have to have that level of astonishment, mostly, to keep that level of quiet. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012 ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070204120151.00c9be50 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 12:01:51 From: CB Subject: Sig (was: Re: Automated Alarms) >> Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012 >> >Chris, do you really mean this? See: Sarcasm (SAHR-kazm) and: Irony (EYE-ruh-nee). Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012 ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070204120353.00c9be50 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 12:03:53 From: CB Subject: Re: L Hand/R Hand >"In theory, there's no difference between theory and practice. In >practice, however, there is." There is less difference between theory in practice in theory than there is in practice. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012 ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070204120649.00c9be50 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 12:06:49 From: CB Subject: Re: Nehemiah Scudder >> Islam, Judaism, Buddhism,Confucianism and Christianity all offer workable moral codes by which to conduct your life. They have served their communities well for thousands of years. Words and words liek those ahve been the source of more evil and killing in the univers than any other concepts put together. But it sounded real nice, Frank, just like you calling George the Fifth, 'honest'! Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012 ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070204121120.00c9be50 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 12:11:20 From: CB Subject: G-mail issues (was: Re: Portfolios) > >My apologies for the million posts. Gmail is cranky sometimes. And it doesn't show you that you're quoting teh entirety of the last five posts on the subject, does it? G-mail is starting to look like a really handy thing for the user, but a real PITA for the digesters on the list... Any G-mail power users out there that know how to get it to show you that you've just quoted four pages of text for a one line response? I really cant blame Thea, because she probably wasn't aware, and all the other e-mail addies in the quotes were from gmail, too, so... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012 ------------------------------ From: Subject: Re: Re: politics (which includes smoking) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 19:49:38 +0000 Message-Id: <20070204194938.VVOE17393.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [at] smtp.ntlworld.com> > > From: "John Bracewell" > Date: 2007/02/04 Sun AM 04:42:54 GMT > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Re: politics (which includes smoking) > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- The trouble with tobacco is that it's not just > something that you take into your own body without inflicting it on anyone > else. If you smoke, some of your poison reaches others. We all know this, > even though some of us would like to close our eyes to that fact. John, you have been brainwashed by the heatlh police.It is not an untypical reaction from an ex-smoker, with an emphasis on the EX. The pejorative terms in the next paragraph have been deleted. Resist it. Frank Wood ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070204122738.00c9be50 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 12:27:38 From: CB Subject: politics (which includes smoking) >Theatre, new babies, >technology, motorcycles, beer, technology in >theatre, babies with motorcycles; these are the >topics to which this list is supposed to be >devoted. Ehm, what!?! Where is this written? I quote from the bible as written by, em, Noah? (the Stagecraft list of Do's and Don'ts) "Very little is considered off-topic on the stagecraft list, as long as it has something to do with technical theatre." While it'd be stretch, we could do it. We've done it before. Sociology and politics *IS* theatre, and theatre is both human behavior mod and politics. I'm constantly amazed at how theatre people of the recent past begin to skitter away from controversial subject matter like someone just turned on the kitchen light of truth. While we should be able to maintain our manners on this list, (again from the list of Do's and Don'ts) "Finally, be civil to each other. It is possible to have differing opinions, strong feelings and even vigorous debates without being discourteous to each other" (which I find ironic, as it is the penultimate instruction in that category...). Sometimes we forget. This list is very democratic in that a subject that doesn't want to be discussed will eventually die of neglect. Killing a subject outright smacks of censorship, and I'd be against it. I'll happily accept a suggestion that certains subjects are ones that you don't wish to participate in, or that certain subjects be reigned in a bit when the personal attacks start not being constructive, as Dave has demonstrated, but making a list of subject matter that is open to discussion and subject matter that is not, is a bit presumptuous, innit? Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012 ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070204123804.00c9be50 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 12:38:04 From: CB Subject: Re: Automated Alarms >Managing unruly bands or cast/crew members is completely different than managing an >audience in a potential panic situation. Not as much as you'd think. ; > So, you have a different set of crew each and every show, depending on volunteers? The guy that mixes sound might be any ole Joe Shmoe off the street? I'm sorry, Bill, I didn't know that you were working with so little. Yeah, it seems that in your situation, where there is no contancy and no consistency, and there isn't someone that can be trusted not to lose their head in a crisis, and no one really has a clue what to do if thinjgs begin to go pear-shaped, having a computer tell you what to do migth be the best thing that you have available. Just pray that the thing doesn't develop a sense of humor. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012 ------------------------------ From: "Jim, RC4 Wireless" References: Subject: Re: DIY magazine articles for theatre? Thank you, USITT!! Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 15:07:46 -0500 Message-ID: <001301c74898$23b19d20$6700a8c0 [at] p3m866> In-Reply-To: Some of you may recall this thread back in August -- I asked if anyone is interested in DIY articles about building useful gadgets for use in theatre. Well -- many many thanks to USITT and David Rodger in particular. My first article of this kind, "Building a Smart Telephone Ringer", is appearing in the next issue of USITT's TD&T magazine. Please check it out! Next, I'm looking for ideas and suggestions about other things to design, build, and publish this way. My email address for this purpose is diy [at] jamesdavidsmith.com. Thanks again! Jim RC4 ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 15:28:38 -0500 From: "Brian Munroe" Subject: Re: G-mail issues (was: Re: Portfolios) In-Reply-To: References: On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 12:11:20, CB wrote: > And it doesn't show you that you're quoting teh entirety of the last five > posts on the subject, does it? G-mail is starting to look like a really > handy thing for the user, but a real PITA for the digesters on the list... > Any G-mail power users out there that know how to get it to show you that > you've just quoted four pages of text for a one line response? I really > cant blame Thea, because she probably wasn't aware, and all the other > e-mail addies in the quotes were from gmail, too, so... When you are viewing email in Gmail, the quotes are often hidden/colapsed. When you reply, the message you are replying to and any quotes are expanded, but often fall below the smallish reply window. The typing cursor is placed at the top of the reply window. So if you top post, as Thea seems to do, it is easy to miss the length of the quotes. Not an excuse, just an observation. Also, because Gmail groups by subject, your reply appears in the list of messages, followed by stagecrafts' version of your reply. It can seem like your email is being sent twice, that is why there are a lot of "Sorry I double posted" messages from new gmail users. I still highly endorse using gmail and the single message version. I recommend trying it for a week with a different username, keeping your current digest version and see how the two compare. My only complaint with Gmail is the same complaint I have with other "Web 2.0" apps. You need to be online to use it. Brian Munroe bpmunroe [at] gmail.com ------------------------------ From: MartySrq [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 16:22:13 EST Subject: Re: Cello Platform OK, OK - How do you get a viola player off your front porch? ....................................... Pay for the pizza! What's the definition of a hopeless optimist?.................................................................. A viola player with a pager! On another subject I really agree with Dave Vick's analogy that this is kinda like a stagehand's bar and just about any topic is open for discussion. Like what we do for a living, if people get offended and pissed off that's OK, if they get bored then that's a real bad thing. We've had some discussion threads that got downright nasty but we're all still here and posting which leads me to believe we're doing something right. As far as the morals thread it's pretty common knowledge that Hitler was a nonsmoking, teetotaler. Marty ------------------------------ Message-ID: <45C65516.6090700 [at] sbcglobal.net> Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 15:50:14 -0600 From: Shawn Palmer Subject: Re: AARP References: In-Reply-To: >>What >>positions that AARP advocates do you specifically object to? > > > I've answered this off-list, as this will turn into a bit of a rant, and I > can't even stretch it to the blue-hairs in the audience to make it > stagecraft related... > Chris "Chris" Babbie You could shoot it my way, too. My parents are nearly to AARP age. I'd love to have more info. Thx Shawn Palmer Appleton, WI USA ------------------------------ From: "Joel Harari" Cc: seanrmc [at] earthlink.net References: Subject: RE: Socopex Alternative Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 14:58:29 -0800 Message-ID: <000001c748af$fcf2b670$b5e1544b [at] Tigger> In-Reply-To: Our show is going down for maintenance and we thought it would be a good idea to see if there was something better out there before just rehabbing the old system. Joel Harari -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of seanrmc [at] earthlink.net Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 10:19 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Socopex Alternative For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Joel, Could you clarify a bit why you need an alternative? Do you need it to be able to mate to Soco-style (Veam, whoever else, etc)? Or is this for "its own" project? Are you looking for a cheaper but compatible connector? --Sean Sean R McCarthy seanrmc [at] earthlink.net -----Original Message----- >From: Joel Harari > >So currently we are using a Veam connection which is just like a 19 pin >Socopex except it only needs a quarter turn to make the connection. > >My question is does anyone know of another alternative? > >It needs to be able to handle 6 circuits of 20 amps [at] 120 volts, and be able >to take some abuse. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <45C66E5F.6040900 [at] gmail.com> Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 15:38:07 -0800 From: Chris Warner Subject: Re: G-mail issues (was: Re: Portfolios) References: In-Reply-To: CB wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > >> My apologies for the million posts. Gmail is cranky sometimes. >> > > And it doesn't show you that you're quoting teh entirety of the last five > posts on the subject, does it? G-mail is starting to look like a really > handy thing for the user, but a real PITA for the digesters on the list... > Any G-mail power users out there that know how to get it to show you that > you've just quoted four pages of text for a one line response? I really > cant blame Thea, because she probably wasn't aware, and all the other > e-mail addies in the quotes were from gmail, too, so... > Chris "Chris" Babbie > Location Sound > MON AZ > > Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates > negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... > > Nehemiah Scudder for President in 2012 > > I use Gmail, but I use thunderbird for my mail software. ------------------------------ From: "Steven Santos" Subject: RE: AARP Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 19:27:54 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: I'll second that, please cc it to me as well. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Steven Santos Director, Simply Circus, Inc. Email: Steven [at] SimplyCircus.com Mail: 14 Pierrepont Road Newton, MA 02462 Phone: 617-527-0667 Web: www.SimplyCircus.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Shawn > Palmer > Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 4:50 PM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Re: AARP > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > >>What > >>positions that AARP advocates do you specifically object to? > > > > > > I've answered this off-list, as this will turn into a bit of a > rant, and I > > can't even stretch it to the blue-hairs in the audience to make it > > stagecraft related... > > Chris "Chris" Babbie > > You could shoot it my way, too. My parents are nearly to AARP age. I'd > love to have more info. > > Thx > Shawn Palmer > Appleton, WI > USA > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <45C68357.3030904 [at] charliefraser.com> Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 20:07:35 -0500 From: Charlie Fraser Subject: Volunteer Coordinator Hi, Does anyone have job descriptions for a volunteer coordinator? Our theater group is looking to acquire one but we are researching what to include in the job description. Thanks Charlie ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001701c748c9$0d3fa650$0400000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: Cello Platform Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 17:57:54 -0800 > OK, OK - How do you get a viola player off your front porch? > ....................................... > > > Pay for the pizza! > I've heard that applied to all musicians in general. Same time I heard the following: What do you call a drummer without a girlfriend? Homeless. - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Cello Platform Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 21:08:41 -0500 Message-ID: <000401c748ca$8f161050$6501a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > What do you call a drummer without a girlfriend? > > > Homeless. Q: How can you tell which kid at the playground belongs to the trombone player? A: He can't swing and doesn't know how to use the slide. ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 21:20:01 -0500 From: "Paul Marsland" Subject: Re: inside-out electrical tape In-Reply-To: References: WOW! I would use that for taping up the tails when I drop them. Paul On 2/2/07, Nathan Kahn wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Today I used a roll of electrical tape that's been stored in my garage > for at least 10 years, exposed to severe high and low temperatures. > > The adhesive is now on the outside of the tape, instead of the inside. > That is, the first layer I removed had no adhesive on it at all. And > from that point on, the adhesive was on the outside of the roll. No > sticky at all on the inside. I was still able to use it :-) ------------------------------ Message-ID: <00bb01c748cc$5a17b5a0$e28aaa43 [at] DonTaco> From: "Don Taco" References: Subject: Re: Cello Platform Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 18:21:31 -0800 > Q: How can you tell which kid at the playground belongs to the trombone > player? > > A: He can't swing and doesn't know how to use the slide. > > Ah, yes, the 'drunk husband' of the orchestra. Comes in late and can't find the key. ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 21:47:18 -0500 From: "Paul Marsland" Subject: Re: Socopex Alternative In-Reply-To: References: I have always prefered the VSC, LSC connectors over the actual Socapex connectors for the strain relief and back shell. More importly, I might suggest that swapping out to a socapex compatible plug (rather than the 1/4-turn Veams) will open you up to a world of available replacements, should you need on late at night or something. Paul On 2/4/07, Joel Harari wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Our show is going down for maintenance and we thought it would be a good > idea to see if there was something better out there before just rehabbing > the old system. > > Joel Harari > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of > seanrmc [at] earthlink.net > Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 10:19 AM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Re: Socopex Alternative > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Joel, > > Could you clarify a bit why you need an alternative? > > Do you need it to be able to mate to Soco-style (Veam, whoever else, etc)? > Or is this for "its own" project? > > Are you looking for a cheaper but compatible connector? > > --Sean > > Sean R McCarthy > seanrmc [at] earthlink.net > > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Joel Harari > > > >So currently we are using a Veam connection which is just like a 19 pin > >Socopex except it only needs a quarter turn to make the connection. > > > >My question is does anyone know of another alternative? > > > >It needs to be able to handle 6 circuits of 20 amps [at] 120 volts, and be > able > >to take some abuse. > > > > ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 00:32:13 EST Subject: Excellent musicians was Re: Rosco Image Pro psyd [at] cox.net writes: << It was Segovia. He has that effect on guitarists, too. People just can't believe that one guy is doing that with just two hands. He was the true definition of 'master'. >> My favorite guitar player is Billy McLaughlin. First time I saw him, he played at the UW student union for $3 a head. I figured no one that cheap would be worth watching and just along went because friends were going. After picking my jaw up off the floor, at the end of the night I was digging in my pockets to buy CDs. He plays "American fingerstyle" guitar meaning he's all over the fret board playing ostinato, harmony AND melody all at the same time. One of he most AMAZING musicians I've ever seen! He's based in the Twin Cities and travels with a small jazz band. Plays everything from pop to gospel to reggae to blues to swing and back again. Couple of years ago he developed "focal dystonia" a muscle condition that some musicians get where the brain to muscle instructions get messed up. So he decided to learn his repertoire left handed and is back performing now. Did I mention he's a sweetheart of a person too? If he gets in your area, go see for yourself! Kristi ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1282.205.215.253.119.1170654895.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 21:54:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Automated Alarms From: "Bill Nelson" > So, you have a different set of crew each and every show, depending on > volunteers? The guy that mixes sound might be any ole Joe Shmoe off the > street? Not every performance, but frequently every show. They are all volunteers, many with zero experience. > I'm sorry, Bill, I didn't know that you were working with so little. Yeah, > it seems that in your situation, where there is no contancy and no > consistency, and there isn't someone that can be trusted not to lose their > head in a crisis, and no one really has a clue what to do if thinjgs begin > to go pear-shaped, having a computer tell you what to do migth be the best > thing that you have available. The situation is common in community theatre. If the group rents space in a managed venue, the venue may or may not provide a competently trained house manager. From my limited experience in various venues over the years, it has generally been the case that the paid house managers are usually more clueless than many of the volunteers. > Just pray that the thing doesn't develop a sense of humor. Sometimes I think that all things electrical and mechanical have a perverse sense of humor, but choose to be very selective in when they display that trait. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Occy" Cc: bill [at] bcaworld.com (Bill Conner) References: Subject: Re: Automated Alarms Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 22:42:51 -0800 All fine and dandy Bill write/email to? I can write my opinions until I am blue in the face but no one else will see it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Conner" > --------------------------------------------------- > > Chris is right - you want trained people in charge of crowds, not > machines. > > There is a plethora of peer reviewed research, much of it published, that > shows people behave extremely well in emergency situations. This concept > of > "panic" is a red herring. It's a great excuse when things go wrong - > "they > panicked" - but that doesn't explain anything. It is also a great > headline, > especially for tabloids. But the fact is, it's a bogus explanation and > relying on it does more harm than good. > > As far as prerecorded announcements, simply responding to every > notification > of a detector signaling or every power outage with a message to "walk to > the > nearest exit" is unwise. The hazard may be real or not - and there will > be > more injuries from an emergency egress than a non-hazard, The hazard may > be > on the other side of one or more of those doors. There are many > emergencies > where it would be better to stay in place. > > Look at the record. Separate crowd crush incidents - where people unaware > of a crush or crowd collapse ahead - push forward. And those reports of > "people trampled"? Bogus. They died standing up, asphyxiated by the > crush, > and their bodies dropped to the floor when the crush ebbed. > > Perpetuating this kind of misinformation is dangerous and not > constructive. > Please don't base your decisions for safety on movies and headlines > because > they are very misleading. > > On the specific issue of alarms, codes currently permit the use of the > house > sound system for emergency announcements, including fire. The fire alarm > industry - manufacturers and installers - is making a very big push to not > allow this but to instead require only their equipment. I start with the > idea that somehow the little red metal boxes with a tin cone speaker can > really deliver a message with intelligibility and loudness necessary. > Then > consider rather than using a mic that is on stage and in their hand, they > have to go backstage and use a rugged mike tethered to another red box to > make announcements - like as if they can see the audience from backstage. > > If you care, get involved. Anyone can send in comments. Don't sit back > now > and when the regs change complain it's stupid and dangerous. > > Bill Conner ASTC, ETCP CR-T > > ------------------------------ You are subscribed as stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net End of Stagecraft Digest #1128 ******************************