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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #1139

 1. Re: Welder Suggestions
    by Josh Ratty <josh.ratty [at] verizon.net>
 2. Re: Cirque's Delirium
    by Michael Heinicke <mheinicke [at] sbcglobal.net>
 3. Re: Cirque's Delirium
    by Stephen Rees <stephen.rees [at] fredonia.edu>
 4. Re: Audio Possibilities
    by "Jason Salvatori" <theatretd [at] gmail.com>
 5. Re: Welder Suggestions
    by Stuart Wheaton <sdwheaton [at] fuse.net>
 6. cell phones 
    by b Ricie <b_ricie [at] yahoo.com>
 7. Re: Welder Suggestions
    by "Paul Schreiner" <paulschreiner42 [at] gmail.com>
 8. cell phones 
    by b Ricie <b_ricie [at] yahoo.com>
 9. Re: Big Class
    by June Abernathy <jea00321 [at] yahoo.com>
10. Back again
    by Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
11. Raffle
    by Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
12. Re: Back again
    by Steve Shelley <mrtemplate [at] earthlink.net>
13. CAD Standard
    by "Chris Wych" <setmonkey13 [at] gmail.com>
14. Re: Smoking RC Car
    by "paul.guncheon [at] hawaiiantel.net" <paul.guncheon [at] hawaiiantel.net>
15. Re: Lumber
    by "Shane Hodges" <SHodges [at] soh.nsw.gov.au>

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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 20:22:38 -0500
From: Josh Ratty <josh.ratty [at] verizon.net>
Subject: RE: Welder Suggestions
In-reply-to: <list-42366189 [at] prxy.net>
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Message-id: <00ec01c74f0d$73033e30$6401a8c0 [at] Rattys>

Ok I'll give it a shot. Stuart can likely provide more info. Equipment
isn't much different. Change the wire to AL, in my experience usually
.035" or .045". The liner in your hose as well as the tip in the nozzle
will need to be the appropriate size as well. You won't be able to get
by with a 75/25 CO2/Argon mix. You'll want pure argon or I believe the
use and argon/helium mix as well. The type of gas as well as the flow
rate can make quite a difference as they will affect the rate at which
it cools the weld. As was mentioned before the settings will need to
change and you want a machine that can handle that. Because of the heat
transfer properties, you need a higher voltage setting to keep the heat
in the part. My experience is that the wire speed will need to be higher
than that for steel as well. You want to push the pool along, not pull.
If you have a machine you can set up for AL and can afford a bit to
practice with, give it a shot. As with anything having someone
knowledgeable around will help immensely. Best of luck.

Josh Ratty

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Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 7:57 PM
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Subject: Re: Welder Suggestions

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While we're discussing welding, how 'bout cluing some of us in to the
differences in equipment and techniques between steel and aluminum?
I've never tried Al before, and was wondering what it'd take for me to
be able to give it a whirl...


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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:34:21 -0800 (PST)
From: Michael Heinicke <mheinicke [at] sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Cirque's Delirium
In-Reply-To: <list-42365172 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <909251.62403.qm [at] web82211.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- MissWisc [at] aol.com wrote:
> Has anyone done Cirque's "Delirium" arena show?  The
> web site says 20 semis 
> and technicians... does that include local  crew?


I saw it in St. Louis just after it started touring
last year. I was only an audience member, so I can't
speak for the number of technicians but I can believe
it was 20 semis.

HTH,
Mike Heinicke

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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 20:40:56 -0500
Subject: Re: Cirque's Delirium
From: Stephen Rees <stephen.rees [at] fredonia.edu>
Message-ID: <C1F68158.766E%stephen.rees [at] fredonia.edu>
In-Reply-To: <list-42365172 [at] prxy.net>

Kristi,
I saw it in Buffalo last year about this time.  Judging by what was in the
air, I think that 20 semis is a reasonable number.  There is also staging
that ran the full length of the floor [hockey rink size].  Sorry , I can't
speak for the actual amount of labor required.

It was a fascinating show to say the least.  The projections were really
amazing, especially since the images bled through the projection surface but
lined up on the screen facing the audience on the opposite side.

Steve Rees


On 2/12/07 7:16 PM, "MissWisc [at] aol.com" <MissWisc [at] aol.com> wrote:

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> 
> Has anyone done Cirque's "Delirium" arena show?  The web site says 20 semis
> and technicians... does that include local  crew?
> 
> Kristi  
> 


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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 20:51:46 -0500
From: "Jason Salvatori" <theatretd [at] gmail.com>
Cc: BillPeeler [at] txstate.edu
Subject: Re: Audio Possibilities
In-Reply-To: <list-42359593 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-42354236 [at] prxy.net> <list-42359593 [at] prxy.net>

If you were to go with the old-school FX procesors you could always
program and recall settings with Midi signals, using a program like
SFX or Sound Cue System.  Just make a Midi cue list and trigger your
units like running lighting or sound cues.
Just an option.

Jason Salvatori
Technical Director
Vaughan City Playhouse

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Message-ID: <45D11DCE.4080200 [at] fuse.net>
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:09:18 -0500
From: Stuart Wheaton <sdwheaton [at] fuse.net>
Reply-To:  sdwheaton [at] fuse.net
Subject: Re: Welder Suggestions
References: <list-42351753 [at] prxy.net> <list-42365902 [at] prxy.net> <list-42366189 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-42366189 [at] prxy.net>

Paul Schreiner wrote:
> 
> While we're discussing welding, how 'bout cluing some of us in to the
>  differences in equipment and techniques between steel and aluminum? 
> I've never tried Al before, and was wondering what it'd take for me
> to be able to give it a whirl...
> 

Clive wrote:
> 
> Anyone had much experience with the lightweight "inverter" welders
> that are basically a high current switch mode power supply?
> 
> I'm guessing they are more likely to fail than a traditional welder,
> but then, with modern component robustness I may be wrong.

Clive, General rule for welders, The more you pay, the better, and the 
more they weigh, the better.

In transformer based welders, the weight is in the transformer, bigger, 
heavier coils, more copper, beefier buss bars.

In inverters, the weight is less, but it should be in heat sinks and fans.

We have a nice inverter we bought in Europe for installations, takes 
very little space and always did what we asked of it.  Having 220 Volts 
in the walls makes it a little easier to do this than in the US.


Paul,

Basic primer in AL welding...

1.  Aluminum is like surgery, clean is very important.  The metal must 
be dry and free of oil, dirt and oxidation.  Cut it dry with a power 
chop saw, if it is dirty, clean it with a rag and acetone or naptha. 
Alcohol is a poor choice because it carries water.  If there is oxide on 
it, scrub it with a stainless steel toothbrush, wipe with solvent.

2. Unlike steel, aluminum does not get red, it goes shiny and then it 
falls into your socks.

3. Aluminum needs pure argon as shielding gas. Run about 30 CFH.

4. Aluminum wire is soft, and cannot be contaminated.  Use a spoolgun 
dedicated to Al.  If you must use a regular stinger, get a brand new 
liner for it and use it only for Al. try to keep the stinger as straight 
as possible.  Use smooth drive rolls if possible and set the feed 
pressure very light.  You will still get many birdnests and throw things 
in frustration...did I mention the spoolgun?

5. Ok, you have the stock, and it is clean, you have the gun and it is 
adjusted, you will want to run hot and fast, check the settings on your 
machine, set it for material about 50% thicker than what you are welding 
as a start point.

6. Angle your gun about 20 degrees from vertical, and push into the 
joint.   In Al welding you push never drag.  You should be able to watch 
the cleaning action of the ionised Argon ahead of the weld pool.  Move a 
bit slowly at first, the Al is sucking heat out as fast as you pour it 
in, then as the AL heats up, you must increase your speed to keep up 
with the puddle before it goes for your socks.  At the end of the bead, 
after you stop the current, the argon should continue to flow for a few 
seconds, keep the gun over the pool until it stops, this shields the 
molten Al from the air and cools your tip at the same time.

The most likely problems with AL welding are, not clean enough, 
inadequate gear, not clean enough, lack of practice, and not keeping 
things clean enough.

There are some decent texts out there for hobby welders, most have a 
good section on Al welding.  I think Home Despot carries Finch's book, 
He's pretty easy to follow.

Stuart

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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:57:05 -0800 (PST)
From: b Ricie <b_ricie [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: cell phones 
In-Reply-To: <list-42366856 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <697340.91626.qm [at] web50613.mail.yahoo.com>


I hate it when yesterdays convenience becomes today's
necessity. It seems that for most people a ringing
cell phone instantly becomes the *most* important
thing at that very moment. Cell phones IMHO are a
tool. Most have caller Id and voice mail. When my
phone rings I will take a moment to look who is
calling and if important answer, or silence the thing
and send the call to voice mail.
In my book, calls about/for work are OK. Personal
calls, no way. I have a love hate relationship with my
cell. 1/2 electronic leash, 1/2 useful tool. 

Brian Rice 
508-685-0716
b_ricie [at] yahoo.com
"Blessed are the cracked: For it is they who let in the 
light."


 
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:05:40 -0500
From: "Paul Schreiner" <paulschreiner42 [at] gmail.com>
Cc: sdwheaton [at] fuse.net
Subject: Re: Welder Suggestions
In-Reply-To: <list-42367883 [at] prxy.net>
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> 2. Unlike steel, aluminum does not get red, it goes shiny and then it
> falls into your socks.

This has *got* to win some sort of award for
best-piece-of-advice-delivered-creatively.  As I sit here with my feet
in socks with a half-dozen holes in each one from straight steel
welding...

> 4. Aluminum wire is soft, and cannot be contaminated.  Use a spoolgun
> dedicated to Al.  If you must use a regular stinger, get a brand new
> liner for it and use it only for Al. try to keep the stinger as straight
> as possible.  Use smooth drive rolls if possible and set the feed
> pressure very light.  You will still get many birdnests and throw things
> in frustration...did I mention the spoolgun?

I guess I should look into one of those..

> 5. Ok, you have the stock, and it is clean, you have the gun and it is
> adjusted, you will want to run hot and fast, check the settings on your
> machine, set it for material about 50% thicker than what you are welding
> as a start point.

So...kinda like galvanized, only not.  With Argon only, a bit
higher-pressured.  Gotcha.  Have to give this a try in a couple of
weeks...

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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:57:08 -0800 (PST)
From: b Ricie <b_ricie [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: cell phones 
In-Reply-To: <list-42366856 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <782806.98401.qm [at] web50606.mail.yahoo.com>


I hate it when yesterdays convenience becomes today's
necessity. It seems that for most people a ringing
cell phone instantly becomes the *most* important
thing at that very moment. Cell phones IMHO are a
tool. Most have caller Id and voice mail. When my
phone rings I will take a moment to look who is
calling and if important answer, or silence the thing
and send the call to voice mail.
In my book, calls about/for work are OK. Personal
calls, no way. I have a love hate relationship with my
cell. 1/2 electronic leash, 1/2 useful tool. 

Brian Rice 
508-685-0716
b_ricie [at] yahoo.com
"Blessed are the cracked: For it is they who let in the 
light."


 
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:32:14 -0800 (PST)
From: June Abernathy <jea00321 [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Big Class
Message-ID: <703930.90645.qm [at] web34515.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

>>Do you have any spare instruments (even unlamped/not
>>working) that you could bring into the classroom for
>>show and tell? 
>>

>Thanks for the idea - but I already did that! I have
>a couple of non functioning lamps (fresnel and Leko)
>and we even cut half of them away to show the
>insides! In addition I took them in smaller groups to
>play around with functioning lamps themselves. It
>just isn't enough. It seems like it should be enough
>to me (I mean, how much is there to know about 
>an instrument?) but they claim that they just forget,
>these glimpses aren't a substitute for constant
>experience and it doesn't stick. I figure all forty
>of them can't just be stupid (in fact they are a nice

>group), so if they all have a problem I'd like to do
>something about it, and internet sites could help.



Well, jeez Judy, I'm stumped too. All 40 of them can't
remember, from class show and tell (with cutaways
even) and some hands on time in smaller groups, even
the differences between different lamps? I'd like to
agree with you that statistically, all 40 can't just
be stupid, but man! it does bring the question to
mind, doesn't it?

You think internet sites could help. And maybe they
could, if there was an understandable site with the
info they need, so they could return to it at any time
for a refresher. OTOH, what you describe above makes
me wonder if it would really do the job either. What
do THEY think they need? "Constant experience" is not
really an option, I don't think. Pictures, videos,
websites? Maybe you can make a class project out of
making up the materials that will help future classes.
That might imprint the information.

Good luck -


June Abernathy
IATSE #321 (Tampa, FL)
FOH Electrician
The Lion King National Tour (Gazelle)


 
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 22:32:30 -0500
Subject: Back again
From: Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
Message-ID: <C1F69B7E.19904%bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-42327839 [at] prxy.net>

What's all this talk about me in a dress???  I'll have you know that I was
working and I never dress up when I'm working.  Especially when it's
outdoors and the weather isn't co-operating.  :-)

Bill S.
ETCP Certified Rigger - Theatre
ETCP Council Member
www.sapsis-rigging.com
800.727.7471
267.278.4561 mobile

Help support the 4th annual Long Reach Long Riders charity motorcycle ride.
July 29 - August 6, 2007.  <www.LRLR.org>






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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 22:44:48 -0500
Subject: Raffle
From: Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
Message-ID: <C1F69E60.19909%bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-42370353 [at] prxy.net>

Hi folks.  It's almost that time of year again.  Here's a press release that
just went out about our annual raffle.

<
The Long Reach Long Riders and The ESTA Foundation proudly announce their
annual raffle to benefit Behind the Scenes at the USITT conference.  This
hugely popular event will be held on March 17, 2007 at the Sapsis
Rigging/ESG/Behind the Scenes booth (#525-625) on the trade show floor of
the USITT conference in Phoenix, AZ.  Tickets, which are $5 each or 5 for
$20,  may be purchased at the booth throughout the show.

Every dollar raised will be tripled thanks to challenge grants sponsored by
I. Weiss and Sapsis Rigging. The list of twelve terrific raffle prizes,
which have been donated by industry companies, can be viewed at
<http://lrlr.org/LRLRsponsors.html> or
<http://www.estafoundation.org/bts/events_USITT.htm>.

All proceeds of the raffle go directly to The ESTA Foundation's
Behind the Scenes program which provides entertainment technology industry
members with grants for emergency situations, such as serious illness,
injury or death.

For more information please contact:

Lori Rubinstein <info [at] estafoundation.org>
Bill Sapsis  <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
<

As you know, it's for a great cause and the prizes ain't half bad either.
And, as the release mentions, there's a new twist to it this year.  I.Weiss
and Sapsis Rigging are each putting up a $5,000.00 challenge grant.  Meaning
that we'll each match every dollar that gets donated up to $5,000.00.

I'll be emceeing the event once again and there just may be an appearance by
the LRLR All-Star Kazoo band.

See you in Phoenix.

Bill S.
ETCP Certified Rigger - Theatre
ETCP Council Member
www.sapsis-rigging.com
800.727.7471
267.278.4561 mobile

Help support the 4th annual Long Reach Long Riders charity motorcycle ride.
July 29 - August 6, 2007.  <www.LRLR.org>






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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 22:37:35 -0500
Subject: Re: Back again
From: Steve Shelley <mrtemplate [at] earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <C1F69CAF.C6CD%mrtemplate [at] earthlink.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-42370353 [at] prxy.net>

C'mon bill. You can tell us. The leather vest again, right?


On 2/12/07 10:32 PM, "Bill Sapsis" <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com> wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> What's all this talk about me in a dress???  I'll have you know that I was
> working and I never dress up when I'm working.  Especially when it's
> outdoors and the weather isn't co-operating.  :-)
> 
> Bill S.
> ETCP Certified Rigger - Theatre
> ETCP Council Member
> www.sapsis-rigging.com
> 800.727.7471
> 267.278.4561 mobile

-- 
Steve Shelley
SoftSymbols Designer
MrTemplate [at] Earthlink.net
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Message-ID: <182100c80702122050k714f5029j738d170f1a1adcf6 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:50:39 -0500
From: "Chris Wych" <setmonkey13 [at] gmail.com>
Subject: CAD Standard

I'm sure this has been brought up before but I couldn't find anything
on the USITT site.  Is there a CAD standard approved by USITT?  I know
there is the drafting standard for hand drafting but am curious on
what conventions I should be following when using AutoCAD.

Thanks a bunch.

-- 
Chris Wych
-Graduate Scenic Designer-
-Indiana State University-

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Message-ID: <3758662.1171349240480.JavaMail.? [at] fh036.dia.cp.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 06:47:20 +0000 (UTC)
From: "paul.guncheon [at] hawaiiantel.net" <paul.guncheon [at] hawaiiantel.net>
Reply-To: "paul.guncheon [at] hawaiiantel.net" <paul.guncheon [at] hawaiiantel.net>
Subject: Re: Smoking RC Car

My mail server is working on its "suck" level, so sorry if this was 
sent twice.

Google "Wizard Stick"

A handheld battery powered fogger. You might be able to make it work.

<<There is a "Tiny Fogger" that is out there.

They are pretty expensive though>>

At $1275.00, I wouldn't say "pretty".

Laters,

Paul

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Subject: RE: Lumber
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 21:06:43 +1100
Message-ID: <3D8DE1A00F14C84D970853517A12A59C0143D687 [at] carmen.soh.com>
From: "Shane Hodges" <SHodges [at] soh.nsw.gov.au>

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