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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #1145

 1. Re: Cell phones on a call & in your shop [nee Smokers]
    by <frank.wood95 [at] ntlworld.com>
 2. Re: Theater Recommendations
    by "Lon Butcher" <Lon.Butcher [at] wwu.edu>
 3. Re: Theater Recommendations
    by "Paul Schreiner" <paulschreiner42 [at] gmail.com>
 4. Re: Theater Recommendations
    by "Paul Schreiner" <paulschreiner42 [at] gmail.com>
 5. ETC...Link?
    by "Andy Morehouse" <amorehouse [at] gmail.com>
 6. Drafting Instruction Question
    by "David Stock" <Dave [at] davidpauldesigns.com>
 7. Re: Cell phones on a call & in your shop [nee Smokers]
    by Michael Heinicke <mheinicke [at] sbcglobal.net>

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From: <frank.wood95 [at] ntlworld.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Cell phones on a call & in your shop [nee Smokers]
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 23:47:39 +0000
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> 
> From: "C. Dopher" <brooklyn [at] dopher.com>
> Date: 2007/02/16 Fri PM 07:41:12 GMT
> To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
> Subject: Re: Cell phones on a call & in your shop [nee Smokers]
> 
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> When I was running NYU Dep of Music's theatres, my rules were that NO  
> personal business interfere with my employees work during their  
> hours.  That went for workstudies, overhires, and fireguards  
> inclusive, and covered everything from personal calls to visits from  
> their sweetie (dropping off lunch is fine; staying and chatting for  
> 15 minutes is not).  If you've got time to chit-chat, you've got time  
> to sort bolts or push a broom.  The only marginal exception was that  
> if truly nothing was happening on their watch, they could bring their  
> books and get homework done (hey, they were students after all).  I  
> suppose that makes me an asshole, too.

It all depends on the sort of shop you are running, and on its workload. I once worked in the maintenance department of a film outfit with up to sixty crews on the road. Then it went down to forty, and we had more spare time. Every engineer had some private project, we devoted the early mornings to solving the Times crossword, and long lunch breaks were condoned. And the work that needed to be done was done, and more besides. Out of that shop came the best footage counter for film that ever was, and a lot more ad hoc engineering to solve particular problems. We made test tapes and films, accepted new equipment from the manufacturers, and so on. I have never worked in a better outfit.

Then the management struck. They threw 80 years of engineering experience out of the window, including me, and at least two rather better engineers.

That's life. I was old enough to draw my pension. Others were less fortunate.


Frank Wood

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Subject: RE: Theater Recommendations
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 17:11:19 -0800
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From: "Lon Butcher" <Lon.Butcher [at] wwu.edu>

<From: "Dirk Van Pernis" <DVanpernis [at] olneytheatre.org>
<Make sure your doorways are wide enough for man lifts, hampers, road>
<cases, etc.>

...and Grand Piano's!

Lon

Lon Butcher
Performance Technician
College of Fine and Performing Arts
Western Washington University

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Message-ID: <f23a0f840702161746s53de0676p2765a312d8279807 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 20:46:06 -0500
From: "Paul Schreiner" <paulschreiner42 [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Theater Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <list-42503085 [at] prxy.net>
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All right, here's a suggestion grand pianowise...

At my last gig, there was a space cut out in the cinder block wall SL
about a foot higher and just wide enough to accomodate a grand.  About
4.5' deep, it *almost* took the full width as well.  Props storage was
located above it.

Keep the piano near the stage, but not in a way that it becomes a
working surface.  You don't want the spider bouncing over threshholds
(especially if the PTB only have one or two people working in the
space at a time for prepping incoming groups), and multiple
double-wide doors are a PITA for other reasons (though they should
still be wide enough to accomodate your genie lift and hampers and
other assorted widebody thingys that'll travel hither and yon).

If you don't have a piano yet, you will.  Trust me.  Plan storage for
it now.  Some donor or other will drop the requisite cash on a 9'
Steinway if it puts his/her name on a concert series...may as well
plan accordingly.

The lots-of-space posts of others (esp. w/r/t costumes) brings to mind
a particular point...it may be that the area planned for the building
won't allow for 7 dressing rooms, a green room, laundry facilities,
and touring company offices all on the same floor.  That's a lot of
real estate.  So, if stairs and an elevator and multiple floors are in
order (though not by any stretch of the imagination ideal), make sure
it's a big elevator.  A big, reliable elevator.  Think hospital-sized.
 And fast.

If money is no object, skimp on nothing.  If you want priorities, to
determine where skimping should happen first...well, then, start a new
thread! :)

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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 20:47:41 -0500
From: "Paul Schreiner" <paulschreiner42 [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Theater Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <f23a0f840702161746s53de0676p2765a312d8279807 [at] mail.gmail.com>
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> At my last gig, there was a space cut out in the cinder block wall SL
> about a foot higher and just wide enough to accomodate a grand.  About
> 4.5' deep, it *almost* took the full width as well.

(Realized after I sent this that this doesn't make sense...the hole
was a foot taller than a 9' grand, and wide enough to accomodate the
length of the piano.  Depth-wise, it was about 8" short.)

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Message-ID: <814c4e1c0702162128h5dea68c5g6083bb07c7c98e40 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 00:28:23 -0500
From: "Andy Morehouse" <amorehouse [at] gmail.com>
Subject: ETC...Link?

We are currently using an ETC Expression 3 with 3 DMX universes in our
theatre. As part of a showcase, we would like to add an additional
Expression 3 on stage. Is there a way to give both consoles control
with a minimum number of cables? I'm unfamiliar with the abilities of
ETCNet, and/or the DMX In feature on these consoles.

-- 
Andy Morehouse
765.661.9706

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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 01:14:33 -0500
From: "David Stock" <Dave [at] davidpauldesigns.com>
Subject: Drafting Instruction Question
Message-id: <PNEMJAMCJPKDLNNINPHJAEAPCNAA.Dave [at] davidpauldesigns.com>

Oh Great Haloed List,

I ask ye a question of philosophy and opinion....

What comes 1st, the chicken or the egg?

OR

In your humbled opinions, have we reached the point where it can be said
that, drafting can be taught while also simultaneously learning CAD?

I am still of the belief that one should learn to hand draft to some level
of proficiency prior to learning CAD. My reason for this is grounded in the
reality that; CAD has a fairly steep learning curve for those first timers
without compounding the level of difficulty by also attempting to cram in
all those drafting standards and conventions at the same time.

For isn't drafting one craft that should be learned and then the CAD
software instruction to follow?  It only seems like a natural and logical
progression to this humble stage crafter...

What's your thoughts?

Keep the replies in the context of instructing those of the high school or
undergraduate level.

Thanks,





















Stock, David Paul
Art Direction & Production Designer
9610 Covered Wagon Dr. Apt D
Laurel, MD 20723
(H) 301-776-2120
(C) 716-510-2016
Website: davidpauldesigns.com
Email: Dave [at] davidpauldesigns.com <mailto:Dave [at] davidpauldesigns.com>







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Message-ID: <20070217065852.6316.qmail [at] web82212.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 22:58:52 -0800 (PST)
From: Michael Heinicke <mheinicke [at] sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Cell phones on a call & in your shop [nee Smokers]
In-Reply-To: <list-42495511 [at] prxy.net>

--- "C. Dopher" <brooklyn [at] dopher.com> wrote:
> Another step further:  phones and nearly anything
> else don't mix.   
> Because phones are now wireless, we have the
> physical freedom to move  
> about and attempt other activities while chatting. 
> As with many  
> other freedoms, abuse of this privilege leads to
> stupid action.   
> Obviously, drivers on cell phones are impaired to
> some degree, but so  
> are people who are walking down the sidewalk.  Watch
> someone do this,  
> chat and walk down the sidewalk.  They weave, even
> moreso than other  
> distracted people.  They stop for no reason, turn
> oddly, have bad  
> timing, don't let others pass them, don't even HEAR
> what's going on  
> around them, cross against lights, and generally
> have the deer-in-the- 
> headlights look.

Apparently a NY senator agrees with you. He is
introducing a bill to make it illegal to use a
crosswalk while on the phone or listening to music.
http://tinyurl.com/2f85se

Mike Heinicke

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