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Re: Finding new homes for out-of-date unwanted computers by Al Fitch 2. Moulin Swing by "Jason Salvatori" 3. Re: Moulin Swing by "deziner [at] theatreinthepark.com" 4. Draw Layer in MS Word (was Re: Drafting Instruction Question) by Kim Hartshorn 5. Re: Draw Layer in MS Word (was Re: Drafting Instruction Question) by "Steven Santos" 6. Re: Finding new homes for out-of-date unwanted computers by Charlie Richmond 7. New home for Theater computers by Herrick Goldman 8. Re: Moulin Swing by 9. Re: Draw Layer in MS Word (was Re: Drafting Instruction Question) by 10. Gripples... again by Aaron Held 11. Re: Gripples... again by SS 12. Re: Drafting Instruction Question by "Lynn Wheat" 13. Re: Finding new homes for out-of-date unwanted computers by Chip Wood 14. Re: Windows Vista and our various software apps?? by Jim Hyslop 15. Re: Windows Vista & HogPC by Jim Hyslop 16. Re: Windows Vista and our various software apps?? by "Noah Price" 17. Re: Windows Vista and our various software apps?? by Rigger 18. Re: Windows Vista & HogPC by "Scott Parker" 19. Set building Standards by jon weaver 20. Re: Set building Standards by "Adriane Bennett" 21. Re: Set building Standards by Bill Sapsis 22. Re: Set building Standards by jon weaver 23. Re: Draw Layer in MS Word (was Re: Drafting Instruction Question) by John McKernon 24. Re: Banning Incandescent Light bulbs. by dorian Kelly 25. Re: Windows Vista and our various software apps?? by dorian Kelly *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 06:11:16 -0800 (PST) From: Al Fitch Subject: Re: Finding new homes for out-of-date unwanted computers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <936809.34555.qm [at] web84006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> . With very great reluctance, I may have to > trash it all. > > > Frank Wood > I got rid of 9 CPUs and two monitors by putting them at the end of my driveway. It took a few days but each day several more were gone. People like trash. Al Fitch Be Kind, Smile and Have Fun. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1caebf780702180833j5b346a35q138577e13cb80866 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 11:33:20 -0500 From: "Jason Salvatori" Subject: Moulin Swing To the Wisdom of the List (especially the Riggers and Lawyers) We have a production of Moulin Rouge coming in that wants to have a performer use a swing that sits about 7' off the deck. She gets in and out of the swing by being lifted by other performers. We are NOT a fly house. The swing would be rigged from our catwalk system, and lowered in by hand before the scene, lifted back out after, therefore it is dead-hung while in use. What I'm looking for is: 1) Is there a safe way to do this? 2) some suggestions for the construction and rigging of the swing. Thanks, Jason Salvatori Technical Director Vaughan City Playhouse ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 11:41:13 -0500 Subject: Re: Moulin Swing From: "deziner [at] theatreinthepark.com" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: I constructed a swing similar to this for Carnival years ago. We used 1/8" aircraft cable, properly crimped, and terminated it in eyebolts which ran through holes drilled in a pipe which the actress sat on. We had a rope which could attach to the pipe and pull it up out of site when not in use. We also used two similar pipes for aerial acrobats on either side but higher. All the rigging was attached to oak superstructure in the theatre. The theatre was located in the hayloft of a 100-year old barn. All the superstructure of the barn was oak. Which...didn't help when the theatre (barn) burned down years later due to a costumer not cleaning out the lint from a clothes dryer. That fire led to the demise of the department and ultimately the college. I was long gone by that time, but what a tragic loss for those who had performed and worked there. Steve > From: "Jason Salvatori" > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" > Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 11:33:20 -0500 > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Moulin Swing > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > To the Wisdom of the List (especially the Riggers and Lawyers) > > We have a production of Moulin Rouge coming in that wants to have a > performer use a swing that sits about 7' off the deck. She gets in > and out of the swing by being lifted by other performers. > We are NOT a fly house. The swing would be rigged from our catwalk > system, and lowered in by hand before the scene, lifted back out > after, therefore it is dead-hung while in use. > > What I'm looking for is: > 1) Is there a safe way to do this? > 2) some suggestions for the construction and rigging of the swing. > > Thanks, > > Jason Salvatori > Technical Director > Vaughan City Playhouse ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20070218115426.0ldgqw80occokksc [at] webmail.plattsburgh.edu> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 11:54:26 -0500 From: Kim Hartshorn Subject: Draw Layer in MS Word (was Re: Drafting Instruction Question) References: In-Reply-To: The draw layer in MS Word, at least Word 2000, is 'almost' sufficient to teach mechanical drawing using the basic tools of CAD. Mostly it needs the ability to show scale rulers, delta x and y and a few other easier menu and selection controls so that it is not necessary to go back to the tool bar so often. This sort of thing is what would help me tremendously in teaching mechanical drawing in a CAD like environment. I really wish that there was a 2D, MacDraw like, free or almost free piece of software, but if the draw layer in Word could work it would be ideal since it would exist on almost every computer on a college campus. I have often looked but have yet to find such a beastie. Perhaps the draw layer in Word 2007 is closer to what I am looking for. In a similar vane, I think Nemetschek (sp?) would only be doing itself a favor if it made a bare bones....really bare bones like back to it's MacDraw, object oriented roots, version available for free or almost free. Files in such a version could be upwardly compatible, and maybe it could act as a universal Vectorworks reader as well. see you in Phoenix Kim Hartshorn Plattsburgh ------------------------------ From: "Steven Santos" Subject: RE: Draw Layer in MS Word (was Re: Drafting Instruction Question) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:13:47 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Try OpenOffice.org's draw program. _____ Steven Santos Director, Simply Circus, Inc. Email: Steven [at] SimplyCircus.com Mail: 14 Pierrepont Road Newton, MA 02462 Phone: 617-527-0667 Web: www.SimplyCircus.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Kim > Hartshorn > Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 11:54 AM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Draw Layer in MS Word (was Re: Drafting Instruction Question) > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > The draw layer in MS Word, at least Word 2000, is 'almost' > sufficient to teach > mechanical drawing using the basic tools of CAD. Mostly it needs > the ability > to show scale rulers, delta x and y and a few other easier menu > and selection > controls so that it is not necessary to go back to the tool bar so > often. This > sort of thing is what would help me tremendously in teaching mechanical > drawing > in a CAD like environment. I really wish that there was a 2D, > MacDraw like, > free or almost free piece of software, but if the draw layer in Word > could work > it would be ideal since it would exist on almost every computer > on a college > campus. I have often looked but have yet to find such a beastie. > Perhaps the > draw layer in Word 2007 is closer to what I am looking for. > > In a similar vane, I think Nemetschek (sp?) would only be doing > itself a favor > if it made a bare bones....really bare bones like back to it's > MacDraw, object > oriented roots, version available for free or almost free. Files > in such a > version could be upwardly compatible, and maybe it could act as a > universal > Vectorworks reader as well. > > see you in Phoenix > Kim Hartshorn > Plattsburgh > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 09:52:22 -0800 (PST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: Finding new homes for out-of-date unwanted computers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: On Sun, 18 Feb 2007, Al Fitch wrote: > I got rid of 9 CPUs and two monitors by putting them > at the end of my driveway. It took a few days but > each day several more were gone. LOL!! around here people just think you're collecting old computer parts and the pile will get bigger!!! C ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 13:02:32 -0500 Subject: New home for Theater computers From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: While we're discussing recycling. I'm happy to report that my "pet" theater company on Cape Cod. Cape Rep theatre has finally completed and electrical upgrade which will allow us to have more than 48 dimmers. We've been limping along for a few years now with a reconditioned micro-vision (shiny key version) but it's beginning to get pretty buggy and it jumps cues frequently. If any of you happen to be decommissioning a console (anything by ETC) please let me know. We can certainly get you or your school, theater, night club, museum, a letter of donation and we might be able to get a bit more. Certainly shipping. Keep us in mind. Thanks. _herrick -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ From: Subject: Re: Moulin Swing Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:01:38 +0000 Message-Id: <20070218190138.MEKQ29112.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [at] smtp.ntlworld.com> > > From: "Jason Salvatori" > Date: 2007/02/18 Sun PM 04:33:20 GMT > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Moulin Swing > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > To the Wisdom of the List (especially the Riggers and Lawyers) > > We have a production of Moulin Rouge coming in that wants to have a > performer use a swing that sits about 7' off the deck. She gets in > and out of the swing by being lifted by other performers. > We are NOT a fly house. The swing would be rigged from our catwalk > system, and lowered in by hand before the scene, lifted back out > after, therefore it is dead-hung while in use. > > What I'm looking for is: > 1) Is there a safe way to do this? > 2) some suggestions for the construction and rigging of the swing. When last I did this, for "Jumpers" by Tom Stoppard, The seat was a piece of 6" x 1" timber with holes at each corner, and all edges chamfered or rounded. The support rope was a 1" diameter hemp line, threaded through the holes and eye-spliced about 2' above the seat. The other end was securely tied to a steel scaffold pole rigged between two catwalks. This gives a rather long period for the swing. At a height of 7', you may fall foul of Health and Safety rules. Check with your AHJ. Frank Wood ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam ------------------------------ From: Subject: Re: Draw Layer in MS Word (was Re: Drafting Instruction Question) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:17:10 +0000 Message-Id: <20070218191710.DOKK26699.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [at] smtp.ntlworld.com> > > From: Kim Hartshorn > Date: 2007/02/18 Sun PM 04:54:26 GMT > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Draw Layer in MS Word (was Re: Drafting Instruction Question) > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > The draw layer in MS Word, at least Word 2000, is 'almost' sufficient to teach > mechanical drawing using the basic tools of CAD. Mostly it needs the ability > to show scale rulers, delta x and y and a few other easier menu and selection > controls so that it is not necessary to go back to the tool bar so > often. This > sort of thing is what would help me tremendously in teaching mechanical > drawing > in a CAD like environment. I really wish that there was a 2D, MacDraw like, > free or almost free piece of software, but if the draw layer in Word > could work > it would be ideal since it would exist on almost every computer on a college > campus. I have often looked but have yet to find such a beastie. Perhaps the > draw layer in Word 2007 is closer to what I am looking for. There is, or was, a CAD program called "AutoSketch". It comes from AutoDesk, and is a baby brother to AutoCAD. 2D only, but with all the layers, 'paper', and so on. Grid, snap, curve and polygon functions exist. Scale and dimension facilities are there, and many others. It will also talk to AutoCAD, and read and write .DXF files. I have used it for 20 years for electronic circuit diagrams, and lighting plans, and still do. The version for Windows is best. I started with a DOS version, and had a lot of trouble with printer and plotter drivers. It is far less costly than its big brother, and does everything you can do with a drawing board, pencil, and paper. Frank Wood ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam ------------------------------ Message-Id: <157279D2-AEFA-4C1D-A7E0-6B9146D1E7CD [at] gmail.com> From: Aaron Held Subject: Gripples... again Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:39:31 -0500 Hello List, I am looking for an archived copy of the thread on Gripples and their use. I know it's an often discussed topic, so I do not want to rehash an old subject. However, we are planning to use Gripples to hang stationary scenery off dead-hung battens. Is applying two Crosbys to the GAC above the Gripple an adequate safety precaution, or, because the scenery is not moving on a lineset, and the load on each Gripple is well below it's rating, should the Gripples be used by themselves? -- Aaron Held Master Carpenter George St. Playhouse, New Brunswick, NJ email: aaron [at] helddesigns.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <8231e7ea0702181200j23abb8ex1b620620d33ad813 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 15:00:46 -0500 From: SS Subject: Re: Gripples... again In-Reply-To: References: >>>I am looking for an archived copy of the thread on Gripples and their use. <<< If ever you find the archives down, just Google the topic at hand, it'll link to Noah's digests. >>>we are planning to use Gripples to hang stationary scenery off dead-hung battens. Is applying two Crosbys to the GAC above the Gripple an adequate safety precaution, or, because the scenery is not moving on a lineset, and the load on each Gripple is well below it's rating, should the Gripples be used by themselves?<<< Straight outta Uncle Bill's mouth (fingers): "Gripples require constant tension to work properly. That cannot always be guaranteed. They were not designed for overhead lifting. They were designed to hold tension on a guy wire one a power pole until a permanent line could be run in. They slip on occasion. Slipping is bad. They do not have my recommendation." However, the following may serve as a means to your end: "I've used gripples to trim a piece of scenery , I rig my chain and shackle on the pipe run my cable down the flat to the hanger iron, thread the cable through the gripple then swage around the thimble and back. I then use the gripple to achieve level trim on said scenery, when I've got it level, I press the sleeve and cut the tail leaving the gripple on the tension strand only" The swage fitting is holding it. The gripple is there only because you can't take it off. HTH. Good luck. -- -SS TTS-EKU "Every day is an opportunity disguised as a challenge" ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 15:07:05 -0500 From: "Lynn Wheat" Subject: Re: Drafting Instruction Question I had to get in on this topic. Personally being a recent student, and now teaching at a University, I feel that it was and is very important to learn hand drafting before CAD. It was hard enough to learn where to put dimensions and all that technical stuff to make it look neat and organized. I also felt that is was a big help since most of the time I need to sketch while building in the shop. If I didn't have the basic skills they would look pretty awful. I developed my personal drafting technique by hand and then I was able to move it over to my CAD so they didn't look so rigid and boring. On a side note I find there often to be printer "problems" as well. It could be as simple as paper,or ink but bleh I hate dealing with problematic printers that occur when networked poorly. And there is also the fact that I don't have one in my office(it's in another building where the drafting classes are held and doesn't play well with my MAC...a whole other problem) which makes it even harder to work off my CAD drawings . But my trusty pencil can fit in my pocket, works great in the shop and hardly ever lets me down. Not to say I don't love my MAC :-) and CAD. I just feel that my Hand drafting skills were a must prior to learning CAD. my .02 Lynn Wheat Shop Manager/ Technical Director Hofstra University Hempstead, NY ------------------------------ Message-ID: <45D8C6E7.9050901 [at] gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:36:39 -0700 From: Chip Wood Subject: Re: Finding new homes for out-of-date unwanted computers References: In-Reply-To: Al Fitch wrote: > I got rid of 9 CPUs and two monitors by putting them > at the end of my driveway. It took a few days but > each day several more were gone. > > People like trash. > Once every 6 months the city has a LARGE items pick-up. In my neighborhood approximately 50% of the trash put out front is gone by the time the city trucks roll by. A charity told me to put my stuff on the street for them to pick up. I even put on signs saying it was for charity. It was all gone before they showed up. Chip Chip ------------------------------ Message-ID: <45D8F67A.1060600 [at] dreampossible.ca> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:59:38 -0500 From: Jim Hyslop Organization: Dreampossible Inc. Subject: Re: Windows Vista and our various software apps?? References:

In-Reply-To: Rigger wrote: > At 2:30 PM -0500 2/16/07, Scott Parker wrote: > >> Has anyone ventured into the world of MS Vista yet? > > I've been using it for years, only we call it MacOS X. Really? I wasn't aware MacOS X had been out "for years" :-) It's interesting how much Vista looks and behaves like OS X, though: animated windows, the dashboard (except it's called something different, of course), etc. -- Jim Hyslop ------------------------------ Message-ID: <45D8F91C.8040800 [at] dreampossible.ca> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 20:10:52 -0500 From: Jim Hyslop Organization: Dreampossible Inc. Subject: Re: Windows Vista & HogPC References: In-Reply-To: Scott Parker wrote: > So, since the last thread was sucked into a blackhole, I'll change the > question :-) C'mon, you waved the red blanket in front of us, whaddja expect? > Does anyone have info regarding using > HogPC in Vista? > Express Off-Line Editor in Vista? > (You name the editor) in Vista? Well, if HogPC wants to use Linux, why not provide a Linux box for it? There are a lot of easy-to-install Linux variants, which don't need nearly as much horsepower as Windows. Just a thought. -- Jim Hyslop ------------------------------ From: "Noah Price" Subject: Re: Windows Vista and our various software apps?? Date: 18 Feb 2007 19:21:00 -0800 Message-ID:<3254671313.299736 [at] mail.prxy.net> Jim Hyslop wrote: > Rigger wrote: > > > I've been using it for years, > > only we call it MacOS X. > > Really? I wasn't aware MacOS X > had been out "for years" :-) Am I missing the joke, or were you just not aware Mac OS X was first released in 2001? Maybe he should just have said he's been using it for half a decade? :-) Noah ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 22:26:48 -0500 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Windows Vista and our various software apps?? At 7:21 PM -0800 2/18/07, Noah Price wrote: >>> I've been using it for years, >>> only we call it MacOS X. >> >> Really? I wasn't aware MacOS X >> had been out "for years" :-) > > Am I missing the joke, or were you just not aware Mac OS X > was first released in 2001? > Maybe he should just have said he's been using it for half a decade? Actually, I've been using it since the second Developer Pre-Release in late '99. -- Dave Vick rigger [at] tds.net If Helen Keller had psychic ability, would you say that she had a "fourth sense"? ------------------------------ Message-ID: <90d9c9980702181950h364d615bw9197a200df327570 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 22:50:04 -0500 From: "Scott Parker" Subject: Re: Windows Vista & HogPC In-Reply-To: References:

I have thought about assigning an older box with Linux. The real reason for asking is that one of my main laptops is due to be replaced and I'm looking at new ones. The last time I programmed a show using HogPC, I used a tablet PC and having the touch screen was great! I've also been looking at external touch screen displays that would be hooked up to the box. I have the programming wing for the Hog that has all the buttons and knobs needed for quick programming as well. Thanks, Scott PS, my wife has a Macbook Pro from work and I do like to play;-) -- Thanks and take care, Scott Scott C. Parker Professor/Technical Director Dept. of Performing Arts Dyson College of Arts and Sciences [at] Pace University Office/shipping: 41 Park Row, 1205F Mailing: 1 Pace Plaza New York, NY 10038 212-346-1423 Fax: 914-989-8425 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:55:34 -0800 (PST) From: jon weaver Subject: Set building Standards Message-ID: <238642.98073.qm [at] web43114.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> A friend of mine wrote and informed me that his set builder is building some pretty rickety sets and is worried about the actors saftey (understandably so). Is there a place online where I can find standards for set building. I only know a few. such as the working limit of an aircraft cable needs to be at least ten times the weight of anything that is flown. And that banding must be used on any platform exceeding 12 inches tall. etc. Thanks very much. I would like to see this guy fired but my friend needs the paperwork to nail him and I can only quote what I've picked up over time. -Jon ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ ------------------------------ Message-Id: <45D8CF50.1E41.009F.0 [at] auburn.edu> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 22:12:32 -0600 From: "Adriane Bennett" Subject: Re: Set building Standards References: In-Reply-To: Stock Scenery Construction Handbook by Bill Raoul is one place to start to show some standard practices. Adriane Bennett Technical Director Auburn University Theatre Department 334-844-6620 344-844-4939 (fax) >>> jon weaver 2/18/2007 9:55 PM >>> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Is there a place online where I can find standards for set building. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 23:17:05 -0500 Subject: Re: Set building Standards From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: There are any number of books out there that deal with set building techniques. There's a rigging bibliography put that I helped ESTA put together and can be found at I just googled "theater scenery books" and got over 1 million responses. Sorry, but I haven't had time yet to check them all. Instead of trying to get the guy fired, how about taking the high road and get him some education? Just a thought. Bill S. ETCP Certified Rigger - Theatre ETCP Council Member www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 267.278.4561 mobile Help support the 4th annual Long Reach Long Riders charity motorcycle ride. July 29 - August 6, 2007. On 2/18/07 10:55 PM, "jon weaver" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > A friend of mine wrote and informed me that his set > builder is building some pretty rickety sets and is > worried about the actors saftey (understandably so). > Is there a place online where I can find standards for > set building. I only know a few. such as the working > limit of an aircraft cable needs to be at least ten > times the weight of anything that is flown. And that > banding must be used on any platform exceeding 12 > inches tall. etc. > Thanks very much. I would like to see this guy fired > but my friend needs the paperwork to nail him and I > can only quote what I've picked up over time. > -Jon > > > > ______________________________________________________________________________ > ______ > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. > http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 20:48:40 -0800 (PST) From: jon weaver Subject: Re: Set building Standards In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <19477.92259.qm [at] web43122.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> "Instead of trying to get the guy fired, how about taking the high road and get him some education?" Realistically that is what I will most likely do. I know that I didn't know everything starting out and I still know very little compaired to some. I'm just worried about the actors there. This is also a small enough house if someone got hurt a lawsuit would ruin the theatre. -Jon ____________________________________________________________________________________ TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 00:12:36 -0500 Subject: Re: Draw Layer in MS Word (was Re: Drafting Instruction Question) From: John McKernon Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > I think Nemetschek (sp?) would only be doing itself a favor > if it made a bare bones....really bare bones like back to it's MacDraw, object > oriented roots, version available for free or almost free. The student version's really cheap, something like $135, which assuming you use it for a year or two, is a real bargain - - John ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 10:28:20 +0000 From: dorian Kelly Subject: Re: Banning Incandescent Light bulbs. >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > >On Sat, 10 Feb 2007, Michael de Almeida wrote: > >> Has anyone else heard of this? >> >>http://democrats.assembly.ca.gov/members/a40/ > >Yes, it was on the news a few days ago. It was explained that it >won't be illegal to possess incandescent lamps, just to sell them >retail ;-) > >C Two points: one theatre related on one general I love halogen lamps for stage lighting. I love their versatility and best of all I love the change in colour temperature as it dims giving the possibility of incredible low light, high contrast Rembrandt -like look when needed. The combination of a 650w 230v halogen in a 10 inch fresnel at point 3, with double L167 is unbeatable for murk with or without haze. I have never managed to duplicate that with any other kind of lamp. I also love them for architectural lighting for their visual warmth and optical controlability and the ability to give a theatrical look to foyers, churches and retail. On the other hand it is 'horses for courses' and CFLs and Fluros have their place: which is not anywhere near a stage. The only time I ever saw fluorescents used effectively for theatre was about thirty years ago at the Grand Swansea, Uk when they installed some amazing fluorescent battens with four colour circuits which dimmed (after a fashion). These were only really suitable for pantomimes and bright musicals The other question, and probably more important than the ravings of a lunatic lighting designer, is whether the power savings outweigh the environmental damage that CFLs and Fluorescents can do. They surely ( please correct me if I am speaking through my backside here) use far more heavy metals,mercury, beryllium, cadmium and other unpleasant nasties which will be far more difficult to recycle, and cant go into landfill at all for fear of water table contamination. This leads in turn to more strip mining and processing usually in the third worlkd where life can be cheap.. And then there is the matter of the ballasts and control gear as well and the energy used to produce these. Dorian http://www.theatrearts.biz -- Illuminati Creative Technology 3 Gladstone Road Colchester Essex UK +44 1206 798076 07770 950964 mailto:Info [at] theatrearts.biz ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 10:41:27 +0000 From: dorian Kelly Subject: Re: Windows Vista and our various software apps?? > >A general problem. I have a system which is looking for a new home. >I KNOW that it would be of use to someone. Until a month ago it was >of use to me. But can I find someone; NO. They all want more >up-to-date omputers. 433MHz, monitor, SCSI scanner, and printer. WIN >98, and all the operating disks. But nobody seem to want it. > > >Frank Frank, you tried Freecycle ? Computers usually get taken, even ancient ones http://uk.freecycle.org/ dorian ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #1147 ******************************