Return-Path: X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/Clamd http://raeinternet.com/mpp X-Scanned-By: This message was scanned by MPP Lite Edition (www.messagepartners.com)! X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: List-Archive: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #1153 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:43:54 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #1153 1. Re: touring with a tv camera and monitor for showcalling purposes by "Bill Nelson" 2. Re: Stop that light! No, fade it up somewhere else! by dorian Kelly 3. Re: Best Practice: Connecting widely dispersed audio systems by "Bill Nelson" 4. Re: Fluorescent sources by "Bill Nelson" 5. Re: First Gig by "Rob Riddle" 6. Re: Stop that light! No, fade it up somewhere else! by "Rob Riddle" 7. Re: first gig and paperwork by "Michael Brubaker" 8. Re: Cheap solar power poised to undercut oil and gas by half (fwd) by "richard j. archer" 9. Re: touring with a tv camera and monitor for showcalling purposes by Stephen Litterst 10. Bending board by "Dougherty, Jim" 11. Re: Question about Strand 520i by Stephen Litterst 12. Was: First gig by "Dougherty, Jim" 13. Re: First Gig by "Paul Schreiner" 14. Re: USITT Pheonix: share ride from airport hotels? by Philip Johnson 15. Re: #1152 x18 by 16. Re: #1152 x18 by "Rob Riddle" 17. Re: ACad on a MAC (was Re: ACad vs. VW?) by Michael de Almeida 18. PC on a Mac by "Paul Guncheon" 19. Hazer by "tomhull [at] mac.com" 20. Re: ( ACad on a MAC) How about offline editors ? by loftlight [at] aol.com 21. Re: { SPAM 3 }:Stagecraft Digest #1152 by "Robin Jaffe" 22. Re: Hazer by Stephen Litterst 23. Re: Hazer by Shawn Palmer 24. passing of two greats in our industry by Theatre Safety Programs 25. Re: PC on a Mac by Stephen Rees 26. Re: PC on a Mac by Philip Johnson 27. Re: Was: First gig by "Bill Nelson" 28. Re: passing of two greats in our industry by Bill Sapsis 29. Re: Hedda Techie? by Greg Williams 30. Re: ACad on a MAC (was Re: ACad vs. VW?) by "Mat Goebel" 31. Re: PC on a Mac by Ford Sellers 32. Re: Hazer by "Adriane Bennett" 33. Re: Hedda Techie? by CB 34. Re: foil, epee or sabre by CB 35. Re: First Gig by CB 36. Re: First Gig by CB 37. Re: new pyro product (price) by Jerry Durand 38. Re: First Gig by CB 39. Re: First Gig by CB 40. Re: Best Practice: Connecting widely dispersed audio systems by "dale cyr" 41. Re: First Gig by joreth [at] techie.com 42. Re: Infrared monitor suggestions? by 43. Re: passing of two greats in our industry by "RD" 44. Re: new pyro product (price) by Jerry Durand 45. Re: touring with a tv camera and monitor for showcalling purposes by 46. Re: Question about Strand 520i by "David Bowman" 47. Re: Cheap solar power poised to undercut oil and gas by half (fwd) by 48. Re: First Gig by Rigger 49. Re: first gig and paper work by Rigger 50. Re: Hedda Techie? by Rigger 51. Re: foil, epee or sabre by 52. Re: Nyc TD job by Rigger 53. Re: new pyro product (price) by "Nathan Kahn" 54. Re: Hazer by "Nathan Kahn" 55. Re: Hedda Techie? by Rigger 56. Re: new pyro product (price) by 57. Re: new pyro product (price) by 58. Re: Help trying to figure out why a channel doesn't work by Al Fitch 59. Re: First Gig by Rigger 60. Re: Infrared monitor suggestions? by Clive Mitchell 61. Re: Cheap solar power poised to undercut oil and gas by half (fwd) by Chip Wood 62. Re: Nyc TD job by Steve Shelley *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <2624.205.215.253.2.1172142339.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 03:05:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: touring with a tv camera and monitor for showcalling purposes From: "Bill Nelson" >>Hey, this squint has been doing video for most of his career. > > It seems as if I have never, ever, on any occasion, been to the in or the > out on any production where you ore your big-electron brethren have decided > that you are taking responsibility for any of the cameras, lines, or > monitors that are assigned to make any show go. I'm not saying that it > can't happen, I'm saying that I've never seen it. In all the venues where I have done lighting, it has always been the "light guy" who has been responsible for cameras, video monitors and all such interconnections. The sound person has only been expected to handle sound, including providing an audio feed to be used for the video monitors in various areas of the building. I have never worked a big megabuck show, so cannot speak about such productions. Bill ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:43:32 +0000 From: dorian Kelly Subject: Re: Stop that light! No, fade it up somewhere else! >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > >> Maybe its' age. Used to be I couldn't wait five days for my >> birthday to come (one of my first memories, walking down the >> street one foot on the curb, one in the gutter, realizing >> that my fourth birthday was a whole five days away) and now >> the days pass like clikety-claks under the railcar's wheels. > >Interesting theory I heard once about the changing perception of time as >we age...but it's been so long I don't remember where it came from. >Basically, the thought is that "one day" when we're young is a greater >percentage of our overall frame of (time) reference, and therefore >"feels longer" than it does as we get older and have more days under our >belt. When I was about twelve I was convinced that because your feet were closer to the centre of the earth than your head, then they were travelling slower- like a point on the rim of a bike wheel goes more mph than a point on the hub. That is how gravity works- trying to make up the difference. ;-) The reason we still stay standing and don't all quiver down into an entropic equi-time jelly (went the twelve year old logic) is the centipetal force that tries to fling us outwards. Obviously as you get taller, the faster goes your head, the more it tries to fly away, time seems to go faster, and the less you can get done in a given revolution of the earth. Simple eh? The question for the list is: Can I get more work done in the available time if I hunch up or better still stay in bed? {grin} Dorian -- Illuminati Creative Technology 3 Gladstone Road Colchester Essex UK +44 1206 798076 07770 950964 mailto:Info [at] theatrearts.biz http://www.theatrearts.biz ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2684.205.215.253.2.1172145424.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 03:57:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Best Practice: Connecting widely dispersed audio systems From: "Bill Nelson" > *IF* you have to use an RF transmitter in the theatrical microphone range > (notice, if you will, that my first set of suggestions included using an FM > transmitter, and that FM is RF...) a microphone used to pick up program is > going to color and change the program material comoing from the mixer in > disasterous ways and you might as well use the money and effort elsewhere. > Or save it up until you can do the project reasonably well. 'Disasterous', > in this case, means it will pick up quite a bit of distortion, ambient > sound, and may not be intelligable at all at the other end. I think I see the confusion. I was not even considering using a mixer or having anything except one microphone for the source. In other words, "we have a speaker here and need to hear what he/she says at several nearby locations". If it is more complex than that, then the possibility I offered would most likely be inappropriate. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2726.205.215.253.2.1172147297.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 04:28:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Fluorescent sources From: "Bill Nelson" > I've mentioned these guys in the last CFL vs Incandescent > thread. > T'all squints go tell me what they are, compared to what you need. I jussa > skweek, whadoeyeno? They are large diffuse light sources, which are fine in the proper applications. There is no control of the edges of the light and only limited focus ability. There is no capability of forming an image. For general washes where beam control is not a concern, they probably would be fine. The major concern there is how they would perform at low intensity levels. It is hard to come up with a comparable sound analog. Maybe like trying to do a sound mix using a Radio Shack 4 channel mixer - where the only controls are the channel "volume" sliders. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001401c7567e$2213a7d0$6701a8c0 [at] amd2200> From: "Rob Riddle" References: Subject: Re: First Gig Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 07:36:52 -0500 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Munroe" > When about feeder cable and cam-locks? For a newbie it can be hard to > tell which end is male and female, and then to have the possibility of > reversed neutral and ground. > > Brian Munroe > bpmunroe [at] gmail.com Maybe I'm stating the obvious here, but: A newbie around cams and feeder should be an observer only. With a patient and verbal qualified person showing and explaining and making sure he is understood. Rob't more coffee ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002901c75680$9af2bb30$6701a8c0 [at] amd2200> From: "Rob Riddle" References: Subject: Re: Stop that light! No, fade it up somewhere else! Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 07:54:34 -0500 ----- Original Message ----- From: "dorian Kelly" > When I was about twelve I was convinced that because your feet were > closer to the centre of the earth than your head, then they were > travelling slower- like a point on the rim of a bike wheel goes more > mph than a point on the hub. > Dorian > -- As a child were you set in a big room by yourself with lots of big thick books? Just curious? ;-) Rob't ------------------------------ From: "Michael Brubaker" Subject: RE: first gig and paperwork Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 08:41:28 -0500 Message-ID: In-reply-to: b Ricie wrote: >>While true, my payroll department requires copies of each for background checks and SS validation. Having been fined by the SSA for<< "Someone correct me if I am wrong here, but,...Me thinks the problem is with the person that checks the numbers with the paperwork. I even believe that the I-9 require the person checking to sign off. I also believe that it can be Illegal to not hire someone because they will not let you *copy* that paperwork. Give your payroll dept. a heads up, they might be headed for another fine." There was a recent post that mentioned the W-4 in this discussion, also. The W-4 is for the Internal Revenue Service, only--it's the witholding allowance certificate. Your employer uses this form to determine how much is taken out of your checks and sent to the IRS each payday. The I-9 form is required by the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service. From thier website, there are two comments that relate to this discussion: This is the section that is being referenced. It is, indeed, the employer's responsibility to verify eligibility to work. "The employer must review documentation presented by the employee and record document information of the form. Proper documentation establishes both that the employee is authorized to work in the U.S. and that the employee who presents the employment authorization document is the person to whom it was issued. The employer should supply to the employee the official list of acceptable documents for establishing identity and work eligibility." HOWEVER, further down the same page is a discussion of photocopying documents. The first part notes that photocopies of the documents are NOT acceptable in lieu of the actual, original docs: "The answer is that only original documents (not necessarily the first document of its kind ever issued to the employee, but an actual document issued by the issuing authority) are satisfactory, with the single exception of a certified photocopy of a birth certificate." The second part is interesting in that although photocopies are not required to be taken by the employer, if the employer takes photocopies for some THEY MUST TAKE THEM FOR ALL. As a prospective employee, then, if you want to work for an employer that takes copies, if you want to work for them, they must photocopy your docs: "Second is whether the employer may or must attach photocopies of documentation submitted to satisfy Form I-9 requirements to the employee’s Form I-9. The answer is that this is permissible, but not required. Where this practice is undertaken by an employer, it must be consistently applied to every employee, without regard to citizenship or national origin." See: http://tinyurl.com/ygvvfz Mike Brubaker ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:40:00 -0400 From: "richard j. archer" Subject: Re: Cheap solar power poised to undercut oil and gas by half (fwd) Well that's interesting. United Solar Ovonic has been making similar panels for several years outside of Detroit. http://www.uni-solar.com Selling it as fast as they can make it. Most of it goes to California and to Germany where more enlightened law makers have ensured utility buy back of any excess home solar production and given tax incentives for home installation. Even our (oil executive) President visited the plant about a year ago. Didn't notice anything new at the White House but... Dick A TD,Cornell U >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 18:07:54 -0600 >From: IGGY & Svetlana >Subject: [Hybrid-Cars] Cheap solar power poised to undercut oil and >gas by half > >http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/02/19/ccview19.xml > >Monday view: Cheap solar power poised to undercut oil and gas by half > >By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard >Last Updated: 11:31pm GMT 18/02/2007 > >Within five years, solar power will be cheap enough to compete with >carbon-generated electricity, even in Britain, Scandinavia or upper Siberia. >In a decade, the cost may have fallen so dramatically that solar cells could >undercut oil, gas, coal and nuclear power by up to half. Technology is >leaping ahead of a stale political debate about fossil fuels. > >Anil Sethi, the chief executive of the Swiss start-up company Flisom, says >he looks forward to the day - not so far off - when entire cities in America >and Europe generate their heating, lighting and air-conditioning needs from >solar films on buildings with enough left over to feed a surplus back into >the grid. > >The secret? Mr Sethi lovingly cradles a piece of dark polymer foil, as thin >a sheet of paper. It is 200 times lighter than the normal glass-based solar >materials, which require expensive substrates and roof support. Indeed, it >is so light it can be stuck to the sides of buildings. > >Rather than being manufactured laboriously piece by piece, it can be >mass-produced in cheap rolls like packaging - in any colour. > >The "tipping point" will arrive when the capital cost of solar power falls >below $1 (51p) per watt, roughly the cost of carbon power. We are not there >yet. The best options today vary from $3 to $4 per watt - down from $100 in >the late 1970s. > >Mr Sethi believes his product will cut the cost to 80 cents per watt within >five years, and 50 cents in a decade. > >It is based on a CIGS (CuInGaSe2) semiconductor compound that absorbs light >by freeing electrons. This is then embedded on the polymer base. It will be >ready commercially in late 2009. > >"It'll even work on a cold, grey, cloudy day in England, which still >produces 25pc to 30pc of the optimal light level. That is enough, if you >cover half the roof," he said. > >"We don't need subsidies, we just need governments to get out of the way and >do no harm. They've spent $170bn subsidising nuclear power over the last >thirty years," he said. > >His ultra-light technology, based on a copper indium compound, can power >mobile phones and laptop computers with a sliver of foil. > >"You won't have to get down on your knees ever again to hunt for plug >socket," he said > >Michael Rogol, a solar expert at Credit Lyonnais, expects the solar industry >to grow from $7bn in 2004 to nearer $40bn by 2010, with operating earnings >of $3bn. > >The sector is poised to outstrip wind power. It is a remarkable boom for a >technology long dismissed by experts as hopelessly unviable. > >Mr Rogol said he was struck by the way solar use had increased dramatically >in Japan and above all Germany, where Berlin's green energy law passed in >2004 forces the grid to buy surplus electricity from households at a fat >premium. (In Britain, utilities may refuse to buy the surplus. They >typically pay half the customer price of electricity.) > >The change in Germany's law catapulted the share price of the German >flagship company SolarWorld from ?1.38 (67p) in February 2004 to over ?60 by >early 2006. > >The tipping point in Germany and Japan came once households twigged that >they could undercut their unloved utilities. Credit Lyonnais believes the >rest of the world will soon join the stampede. > >Mike Splinter, chief executive of the US semiconductor group Applied >Materials, told me his company is two years away from a solar product that >reaches the magic level of $1 a watt. > >Cell conversion efficiency and economies of scale are galloping ahead so >fast that the cost will be down to 70 US cents by 2010, with a target of 30 >or 40 cents in a decade. > >"We think solar power can provide 20pc of all the incremental energy needed >worldwide by 2040," he said. > >"This is a very powerful technology and we're seeing dramatic improvements >all the time. It can be used across the entire range from small houses to >big buildings and power plants," he said. > >"The beauty of this is that you can use it in rural areas of India without >having to lay down power lines or truck in fuel." > >Villages across Asia and Africa that have never seen electricity may soon >leapfrog directly into the solar age, replicating the jump to mobile phones >seen in countries that never had a network of fixed lines. As a by-product, >India's rural poor will stop blanketing the subcontinent with soot from tens >of millions of open stoves. > >Applied Materials is betting on both of the two rival solar technologies: >thin film panels best used where there is plenty of room and the traditional >crystalline (c-Si) wafer-based cells, which are not as cheap but produce a >higher yield - better for tight spaces. > >Needless to say, electricity utilities are watching the solar revolution >with horror. Companies in Japan and Germany have already seen an erosion of >profits because of an effect known "peak shaving". In essence, the peak >wattage of solar cells overlaps with hours of peak demand and peak prices >for electricity in the middle of the day, crunching margins. > >As for the oil companies, they are still treating solar power as a fringe >curiosity. "There is no silver bullet," said Jeroen Van der Veer, Shell's >chief executive. > >"We have invested a bit in all forms of renewable energy ourselves and maybe >we'll find a winner one day. But the reality is that in twenty years time >we'll still be using more oil than now," he said. > >Might he be wrong? ------------------------------ Message-ID: <45DDA475.5050901 [at] gmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:11:01 -0500 From: Stephen Litterst Organization: University of Delaware Subject: Re: touring with a tv camera and monitor for showcalling purposes References: In-Reply-To: CB wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > > >>Hey, this squint has been doing video for most of his career. > > > It seems as if I have never, ever, on any occasion, been to the in or the > out on any production where you ore your big-electron brethren Actually, our electrons are the same size as yours. We just use a lot more of them. :D Steve L. -- Stephen Litterst Technical Operations Supervisor litterst [at] udel.edu Center for the Arts 302/831-0601 University of Delaware ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:16:15 -0500 Subject: Bending board From: "Dougherty, Jim" Message-ID: Paul Guncheon wrote: <> And then what... you we're able to roll it into a 2" tube? My word... talk about patience. Laters, Paul Well, in this case the kerfed side faced out, and formed the grill for a faux tractor we had to build. Once the surface was painted silver (and not the grooves) it looked pretty good. This was for a relatively small piece of lauan, and I ran it through on the left and right before moving the fence to save a bit of time. I've also had to make what looked like beadboard paneling by grooving lauan when the budget didn't cover the real thing (labor is out of a different pot). It's great when the board moves on the next-to-last cut. Really, these techniques are for when you have to do it this way. If you can afford it, buy it. To get a 2" tube, I'll shave the lauan into it's individual veneers with a chisel, apply contact cement, and carefully roll it up around a mandrel of the appropriate diameter - like a long roll of paper towels. Or use pipe. - Jim Dougherty ATD, Middlebury College Theatre Department ------------------------------ Message-ID: <45DDA60C.4070103 [at] gmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:17:48 -0500 From: Stephen Litterst Organization: University of Delaware Subject: Re: Question about Strand 520i References: In-Reply-To: Edward Hunter wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > > I'm using a Strand 520i in my current show. For some reason when I > changed the time on some cues I get a notation next to the cue saying > "AttTime 8". Eight was part of the orginal time of the cue so I suspect > that's where it came from. As far as I can tell the cues follow the new > timing but I can't find any documentation as to what "AttTime" means. > I'm assuming it's attribute time but I didn't set it. Any 520i experts > out there who can help me out? Thanks. My guess is that on those cues, you got a double hit on the slash key. To enter an attribute time of 3 on a cue you would type -- Cue x time / / 3 The second slash indicates that the number is the attribute time. I'd have to check the syntax on my own board, but to clear the attribute time should be -- Cue x time / / What software release are you running? Steve L. -- Stephen Litterst Technical Operations Supervisor litterst [at] udel.edu Center for the Arts 302/831-0601 University of Delaware ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:18:07 -0500 Subject: Was: First gig From: "Dougherty, Jim" Message-ID: Greg Williams wrote: >Anybody know how to clean vegetarian Mexican casserole off a laptop >monitor and keyboard? >-=Greg Williams=- >www.LRLR.org Vinegar. - Jim Dougherty ATD, Middlebury College Theatre Dept. ------------------------------ Subject: RE: First Gig Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:30:23 -0500 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0786179A [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> In-Reply-To: From: "Paul Schreiner" > I like the "pin to power" phrase, makes perfect sense. >=20 > > As far as sound, I don't know that males "usually" run away=20 > from the=20 > > source. Think phantom power source rather than audio signal source, and "pin to power" works for audio just fine. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 08:30:56 -0600 Subject: Re: USITT Pheonix: share ride from airport hotels? From: Philip Johnson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Ditto I am staying at the airport travelodge. If anyone wants to share rides I would like to do this too -- Philip Johnson Professor of Theatre Texas A&M University-Corpus Christi On 2/19/07 10:39 PM, "Scott Parker" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hello All, > I'll probably be staying near the airport and I'm wondering if anyone > else will be either taking a cab daily or renting a car. I'd certainly > consider splitting the cost of either. Anyone?? > From what the hotels tell me, the cabs would be between $12-$18 each > way. I've found rental cars for $26 +/- per day, plus parking near the > conference. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 08:35:29 -0600 (CST) From: Subject: Re:#1152 x18 Message-id: <3361489.4728311172154929506.JavaMail.root [at] vms064.mailsrvcs.net> Wow! Just got 18 copies of Digest 1152. (Verizon was not pleased...) There has been comment here before about the occasional double or triple issue, but I believe 18 may set the modern indoor record. Anybody else get multiples? Any idea what happened? Jim Taylor Acoustic Light ------------------------------ Message-ID: <00c801c75690$81d7c770$6701a8c0 [at] amd2200> From: "Rob Riddle" References: Subject: Re: #1152 x18 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:48:24 -0500 I've already sent a message to Noah. And a wish for a good day Rob't ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 9:35 AM Subject: Re: #1152 x18 > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Wow! Just got 18 copies of Digest 1152. > (Verizon was not pleased...) > > There has been comment here before about the occasional > double or triple issue, but I believe 18 may set > the modern indoor record. > > Anybody else get multiples? > Any idea what happened? > > Jim Taylor > Acoustic Light ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Michael de Almeida Subject: Re: ACad on a MAC (was Re: ACad vs. VW?) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:12:04 -0500 Hello, If you're talking about running Acad on windows from a Mac, there should be no problem. The new macs run the intel chipset. Basically when you install windows, it is a native windows machine. I've yet to use Parallels, so I don't know how well it would run under that. I have Windows XP SP2 installed on my Macbook and it runs flawlessly (or about as flawlessly as Windows can :-). I've also read about people buying a Mac and only running Windows on it. If I have time later, I'll try installing the Acad demo and let you know how it runs. Good luck with it. Mike de Almeida ATD/ME/MA Phone: (860) 560-0771 Theaterworks E-mail: humhead [at] comcast.net Hartford CT Web: http://www.theaterworkshartford.org ------------------------------ Message-ID: <80b44ce00702220717s4ab3256mfef9106c571184 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 05:17:21 -1000 From: "Paul Guncheon" Subject: PC on a Mac << However, it doesn't make very much sense to me to buy a copy of XP (*if* I had the funds to do so) and go through the hassles of installing and debugging BootCamp>> Sooooo... here's my question. The ability to dun a PC program seems to be a Mac selling point to me. However, it appears that doing so in actuality is not really very easy and in fact is fraught with errors and other perils. As a PC user who now uses a Mac as well, I was considering getting one of the new machines. Perhaps it is better to keep the platforms separate... Yes? Laters, Paul ------------------------------ Message-Id: <7BAA9D60-4BA8-4AFD-9039-C1015F747A7C [at] mac.com> From: "tomhull [at] mac.com" Subject: Hazer Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:18:56 -0600 Can anyone/everyone suggest a good hazer? The LeMatre NutronXS that we own is not slicing the bread if you get my drift. We need to get a reliable, dmx controlled hazer. Whats out there? This will be used in a stationary position in a theatre. It will not be moved much and needs to be quiet. Regards, Tom Hull ------------------------------ References: Subject: Re:( ACad on a MAC) How about offline editors ? Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:28:11 -0500 In-Reply-To: From: loftlight [at] aol.com Message-Id: <8C924AD32238782-314-54C3 [at] WEBMAIL-RC09.sysops.aol.com> Just wondering if anyone has tried to run offline editors like=20 Expression Offline on a Macbook? I've used Expression Offline with=20 Virtual PC on my G4 Powerbook. Sometimes it's a 50/50 whether it will=20 work and Obsession Offline doesn't even want to try. Thanks, -A AAron Meadow Lighting Designer P/Fx 212-995-1120 Cell 917-656-1639 LoftLight [at] aol.com www.meadowlight.com -----Original Message----- From: humhead [at] comcast.net To: stagecraft [at] theatrical.net Sent: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:12 AM Subject: Re: ACad on a MAC (was Re: ACad vs. VW?) For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see=20 =C2=A0 ---------------------------------------------------=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Hello,=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 If you're talking about running Acad on windows from a Mac, there=20 should be no problem. The new macs run the intel chipset. Basically=20 when you install windows, it is a native windows machine. I've yet to=20 use Parallels, so I don't know how well it would run under that. I have=20 Windows XP SP2 installed on my Macbook and it runs flawlessly (or about=20 as flawlessly as Windows can :-). I've also read about people buying a=20 Mac and only running Windows on it. If I have time later, I'll try=20 installing the Acad demo and let you know how it runs. Good luck with=20 it.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Mike de Almeida=C2=A0 ATD/ME/MA Phone: (860) 560-0771 Theaterworks E-mail:=20 humhead [at] comcast.net=C2=A0 Hartford CT Web: http://www.theaterworkshartford.org=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and=20 security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from=20 across the web, free AOL Mail and more. =3D0 ------------------------------ Message-Id: <45DD63320200001100972B09 [at] groupwise1.duc.auburn.edu> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:32:34 -0600 From: "Robin Jaffe" Subject: Re: { SPAM 3 }:Stagecraft Digest #1152 Some one stop me before I send again........ Robin Jaffe Associate Professor Production Manager/Faculty Technical Director Department of Theatre School of Fine Arts Auburn University Auburn, AL 36849 jaffero [at] auburn.edu theatretechguy.com 334-844-6618 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <45DDB886.10207 [at] gmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:36:38 -0500 From: Stephen Litterst Organization: University of Delaware Subject: Re: Hazer References: In-Reply-To: tomhull [at] mac.com wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > > Can anyone/everyone suggest a good hazer? The LeMatre NutronXS that we > own is not slicing the bread if you get my drift. We need to get a > reliable, dmx controlled hazer. Whats out there? This will be used in > a stationary position in a theatre. It will not be moved much and > needs to be quiet. Tom, What size is your theatre? I've had good success with the Look Solutions Unique hazer in a variety of spaces. Economical fluid consumption and the ability to control juice and fan separately make it pretty flexible for hazing effects. http://www.looksolutions.com/pdf/A4%20U2e.pdf And there's always the DF-50, which is rock-solid reliable and puts out a fantastic haze, if you don't mind the sound of a diesel truck idling offstage. http://www.reelefx.com/products/df50.htm Steve L. -- Stephen Litterst Technical Operations Supervisor litterst [at] udel.edu Center for the Arts 302/831-0601 University of Delaware ------------------------------ Message-ID: <45DDBADE.9010100 [at] sbcglobal.net> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:46:38 -0600 From: Shawn Palmer Subject: Re: Hazer References: In-Reply-To: >> Can anyone/everyone suggest a good hazer? The LeMatre NutronXS that >> we own is not slicing the bread if you get my drift. We need to get >> a reliable, dmx controlled hazer. Whats out there? This will be used >> in a stationary position in a theatre. It will not be moved much and >> needs to be quiet. > Tom, I'd vote for the Look Solutions Unique hazer. Much quieter then most, and you can control the fan and pump seperately via DMX. Very simple to use. I've used a few, owned a few and sold a few. I love them. FWIW Shawn Palmer Appleton, WI USA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 08:50:58 -0700 From: Theatre Safety Programs Subject: passing of two greats in our industry Message-Id: <20070222154931.CFYM233.fed1rmmtao105.cox.net [at] fed1rmimpo01.cox.net> I just received this information today. Oren Parker passed away on January 29, 2007 in New Mexico, at the age of 95. If you wish to send a personal note of condolence, it may be addressed to Thelma (Teschie) Parker, 2619 Camino Cordoba SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124-8821. Memorial gifts are requested for the Oren Parker Award for Undergraduate Scene Deisgn. Let's remember how much we learned from this wonderful man. Richard D. (Dick) Thompson passed away in Van Nuys, CA on February 12, 2007. He was a leader in the industry, ESTA, and the USITT. Listening to Dick tell his stories about his experiences in the industry was fascinating. I hope that we can keep his memory alive through the stories we all remember. Jerry Gorrell ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:56:17 -0500 Subject: Re: PC on a Mac From: Stephen Rees Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Hey Paul, I was a PC guy for years until my colleagues convinced me that a Mac would suit my needs better. I had been oggling theirs for a while. Have been using my MacBook Pro since August and I love it. All the old files that I imported from my old Dell Dimension run with no problem whatsoever. I see no need to separate platforms. I still have my Dell Insiron 8200 laptop at home and I have yet to have ANY problems carrying files back and forth via a 2GB Jump Drive. I run all the department business as department chair and all the production stuff on the same machine. If you go with a MacBook Pro, ponder getting a second monitor so you can do split screen things. I got a 20" flatscreen to go with the laptop in the office and then I can take the laptop to class and meetings. HTH, Steve Rees On 2/22/07 10:17 AM, "Paul Guncheon" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > << However, it doesn't make very > much sense to me to buy a copy of XP (*if* I had the funds to do so) > and go through the hassles of installing and debugging BootCamp>> > > Sooooo... here's my question. The ability to dun a PC program seems to > be a Mac selling point to me. However, it appears that doing so in actuality > is not really very easy and in fact is fraught with errors and other > perils. As a PC user who now uses a Mac as well, I was considering > getting one of the new machines. Perhaps it is better to keep the > platforms separate... > > Yes? > > Laters, > > Paul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:40:39 -0600 Subject: Re: PC on a Mac From: Philip Johnson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: It really depends on what you use more. As a mac head I primarily run my macbook pro. I use the windows side for WYG, emphasis offline editor and some other programs not available for Mac. I had my tech guy on campus install windows and do all the partitioning and set up. It really wasn't a problem according to him. I chose bootcamp because last summer the folks at Stagelight in Houston and I demoed wyg and emphasis on a macbook. I found parallels ran them slower so I run bootcamp. I have talked to a number of people in schools and on the road who are running both on a macbook and have few problems. If you use a mac and need windows the it makes a good investment. If you run windows only you might be better served staying with that product. But, as we are seeing, more and more people are loading windows on the mac and making a variety of applications run. Finally, there is a rumor that windows runs better on the mac duo chipset than the centrino duo. Anyone out there had experience. My 2 cents worth. -- Philip Johnson Professor of Theatre Texas A&M University-Corpus Christi On 2/22/07 9:17 AM, "Paul Guncheon" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > << However, it doesn't make very > much sense to me to buy a copy of XP (*if* I had the funds to do so) > and go through the hassles of installing and debugging BootCamp>> > > Sooooo... here's my question. The ability to dun a PC program seems to > be a Mac selling point to me. However, it appears that doing so in actuality > is not really very easy and in fact is fraught with errors and other > perils. As a PC user who now uses a Mac as well, I was considering > getting one of the new machines. Perhaps it is better to keep the > platforms separate... > > Yes? > > Laters, > > Paul ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3053.205.215.253.2.1172160370.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 08:06:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Was: First gig From: "Bill Nelson" >Anybody know how to clean vegetarian Mexican casserole off a laptop >monitor and keyboard? Give it time and it will just fly away. Bill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:13:11 -0500 Subject: Re: passing of two greats in our industry From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: I never met Mr. Parker but Dick Thompson sat on several ESTA committees with me. He did indeed have great stories and he was deeply committed to the industry. People like Dick are hard to find nowadays. He will be missed. Thanks for the info, Jerry Bill S. ETCP Certified Rigger - Theatre ETCP Council Member www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 267.278.4561 mobile Help support the 4th annual Long Reach Long Riders charity motorcycle ride. July 29 - August 6, 2007. On 2/22/07 10:50 AM, "Theatre Safety Programs" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I just received this information today. > > Oren Parker passed away on January 29, 2007 in New Mexico, at the age > of 95. If you wish to send a personal note of condolence, it may be > addressed to Thelma (Teschie) Parker, 2619 Camino Cordoba SE, Rio > Rancho, NM 87124-8821. Memorial gifts are requested for the Oren > Parker Award for Undergraduate Scene Deisgn. Let's remember how much > we learned from this wonderful man. > > Richard D. (Dick) Thompson passed away in Van Nuys, CA on February > 12, 2007. He was a leader in the industry, ESTA, and the > USITT. Listening to Dick tell his stories about his experiences in > the industry was fascinating. I hope that we can keep his memory > alive through the stories we all remember. > > Jerry Gorrell > > ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Greg Williams Subject: Re: Hedda Techie? Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:57:34 -0500 On Feb 21, 2007, at 10:21 AM, Bill Schaffner wrote: > I must concur. I have never liked the term "techie". Stagehand is my > preferred. > While Chris Babbie makes a good point about "they're only words, so long as they pay me..." (paraphrase mine), I think that misses the point. Most of us in educational theatre have a responsibility to show students that their work has value, that they should strive to raise that value, and that anything worth doing is worth doing well. If we allow broad terms to be used which have a sort of "endearing" or "dimunitive" quality, I fear we teach those students by example that their work is somehow inferior to the work of others in the collaborative process. That's why I try to bring a halt to the term "techie" when I find it used. I forbid my crew to refer to themselves as such. I try to instill a sense of worth which I don't feel can be conveyed to someone who sees themselves as the "pet" of other disciplines. I agree about the paid gigs. When I'm on a pro call, I really don't care what you call me, as long as it's done with good intentions. -=Greg Williams=- Production Manager Valborg Theatre, Appalachian State University www.LRLR.org ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:40:57 -0700 From: "Mat Goebel" Subject: Re: ACad on a MAC (was Re: ACad vs. VW?) In-Reply-To: References: Sorry to chime in late. I've successfully used Acad 2006 under parallels on my macbook. No stability issues and plenty zippy compared to my old dell! On 22/02/07, Michael de Almeida wrote: > If you're talking about running Acad on windows from a Mac, there > should be no problem. The new macs run the intel chipset. Basically > when you install windows, it is a native windows machine. I've yet > to use Parallels, so I don't know how well it would run under that. > I have Windows XP SP2 installed on my Macbook and it runs flawlessly > (or about as flawlessly as Windows can :-). I've also read about > people buying a Mac and only running Windows on it. If I have time > later, I'll try installing the Acad demo and let you know how it > runs. Good luck with it. -- Mat Goebel www.matgoebel.com Mobile: 510.693.1448 ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20070222114225.02fb0da8 [at] cornell.edu> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:44:41 -0500 From: Ford Sellers Subject: Re: PC on a Mac In-Reply-To: References: More fuel for the fire: Microsoft tells vista users they can't run in "parallel" unless they buy premium... http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MICROSOFT_VIRTUAL_VISTA?SITE=NYITH&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2007-02-22-09-52-31 I have a PC, but agree...Microsoft is the self-serving evil empire. At 10:56 AM 2/22/2007, you wrote: >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > >Hey Paul, >I was a PC guy for years until my colleagues convinced me that a Mac would >suit my needs better. I had been oggling theirs for a while. Have been >using my MacBook Pro since August and I love it. All the old files that I >imported from my old Dell Dimension run with no problem whatsoever. I see no >need to separate platforms. I still have my Dell Insiron 8200 laptop at >home and I have yet to have ANY problems carrying files back and forth via a >2GB Jump Drive. I run all the department business as department chair and >all the production stuff on the same machine. > >If you go with a MacBook Pro, ponder getting a second monitor so you can do >split screen things. I got a 20" flatscreen to go with the laptop in the >office and then I can take the laptop to class and meetings. >HTH, >Steve Rees > > >On 2/22/07 10:17 AM, "Paul Guncheon" wrote: > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > << However, it doesn't make very > > much sense to me to buy a copy of XP (*if* I had the funds to do so) > > and go through the hassles of installing and debugging BootCamp>> > > > > Sooooo... here's my question. The ability to dun a PC program seems to > > be a Mac selling point to me. However, it appears that doing so > in actuality > > is not really very easy and in fact is fraught with errors and other > > perils. As a PC user who now uses a Mac as well, I was considering > > getting one of the new machines. Perhaps it is better to keep the > > platforms separate... > > > > Yes? > > > > Laters, > > > > Paul ************************ Ford H Sellers Master Electrician Cornell University Schwartz Center for the Performing Arts 430 College Avenue Ithaca NY, 14850 (607) 254-2736 office (607) 254-2733 fax ------------------------------ Message-Id: <45DD7DE6.1E41.009F.0 [at] auburn.edu> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:26:28 -0600 From: "Adriane Bennett" Subject: Re: Hazer References: In-Reply-To: We had the NutronXS (and still do), but wanted a second since it wasn't filling the space. They no longer sell those and now most LeMaitre vendors are selling the Radiance. It puts out twice the amount of haze as the NutronXS and is relatively quiet. I would suggest getting the extra fan attachment if you are hanging it. The internal fan works ok, but to really push the haze across a larger space quickly, you'll want that fan. Best Regards, Adriane Adriane Bennett Technical Director Auburn University Theatre Department 334-844-6620 344-844-4939 (fax) >>> "tomhull [at] mac.com" 2/22/2007 9:18 AM >>> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Can anyone/everyone suggest a good hazer? The LeMatre NutronXS that we own is not slicing the bread if you get my drift. We need to get a reliable, dmx controlled hazer. Whats out there? This will be used in a stationary position in a theatre. It will not be moved much and needs to be quiet. Regards, Tom Hull ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070222100720.00cc0d48 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:07:20 From: CB Subject: Re: Re: Hedda Techie? >Words have power. Being aware of the words you choose to use and the >effect they have on the people around you is (IMHO) extremely >important. Words have the power that you give them. Misuse of words should be a criminal offense, but presently the worst punishment wthat we can mete out is to ignore those that would misuse them. I still say that insults only work if there is a reaction to them, and only those that believe that there might be a grain fo truth tend to react poorly. Insults are made to get a reaction, and when the reaction is what was intended, the action will change. Choose your battles, disarm the jerks by not giving 'em what they want, and put your good where it'll do the most. Especially fighting against someone who's only crime is well-intentioned ignorance. Snapping at those folk will only get one a reputation for being nasty. Good attitudes and intentions are far more important than a poor choice of words. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070222101132.00cc0d48 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:11:32 From: CB Subject: Re: Re: Re: foil, epee or sabre >I have deleted the rest of your post. I think it contains bad advice, and bafd information. A true sign of the dedicated acolyte of ignorance. "Please don't tell me any more facts that you have gleaned from experts and empirical experiences, and I have already made up my mind". Frank, you are wrong, simply wrong, and your advice is, in fact, dangerous. Let's you and I discuss this off list where I can get you in contact with the swordmakers, the fight instructors, the metallurgists, the fighters, and the fight marshalls who all know better. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070222103002.00cad1c0 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:30:02 From: CB Subject: RE: RE: First Gig >> Oh, and that cable coiling video is a joke. That should be updated to at >> least reflect that loony skweeks new haircut! >I have nothing to do with the video, except that guy already had it and I h= >aven't taken the time to record my own. Brotha, I am so messing with you. That's my video, thrown together a few years ago because I haven't the didacticity to explain how to over/under in an e-mail. Other listers heard about it and asked for a copy, the requests came too fast and furious, and another lister (thanks guys!) offered to convert it to a computer friendly format and Noah hosted it on the Stagecraft site. I'm so sorry that you didn't pick up onthat and thought that I was attacking you, er, mer, er whatever. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070222103356.00cad1c0 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:33:56 From: CB Subject: RE: RE: First Gig >Call me a "kid", though, and be ready to be called an "old man". Deal. 'Kids' sort of evolved from the PC police shooting down everything other than 'persons'. 'Persons' sound so, well, impersonal. Look, I've been called worse. Lots worse. As long as it's in fun or in an attempt (be it successful or not) you can pretty much get away with calling me anything. Except late for break. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:00:15 -0800 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: new pyro product (price) In-reply-to: Message-id: <20070222180015.C602C1F3DFF [at] smtp.interstellar.com> References: At 11:17 AM 2/16/2007, Nathan Kahn wrote: >Naah . . . you guys are way low. I can't see it retailing for less than $200. > >Nathan Well, since pyros tend to be poor, we're setting the price at $150 including ground shipping in the lower 48 states. Some people say this MUST have a key switch, even though it's only one channel and intended to stay in your hand. Any thoughts on this? I can add a key, but that's something to lose/break, more complexity, and some added expense. -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070222104047.00cad1c0 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:40:47 From: CB Subject: Re: Re: First Gig >For a newbie it can be hard to >tell which end is male and female, and then to have the possibility of >reversed neutral and ground. Noobs should never (did I say 'never'? Well, I meant 'never') lok in your cams unsupervised. Never (I'll say it again. "NEVER"). If you send a noob to wire up your power, you get everything that you deserve. Ask him if he's colorbind, too, before you give him specific directions. My instructions for folks on their first day: 1. If you doen' know what you're doing, ask. 2. If you think you know what you're doing, ask. 3. If you are absolutley one-hundred percent surethat you know exactly what you are doing, drop all tools and parts and pieces and go find someone to ask. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20070222104134.00cc0d48 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:41:34 From: CB Subject: Re: Re: First Gig >My recommendation is that with small cables, you >should ask if they like to over under their cable, and >with larger stuff, you should not do it unless someone >specifically instructs you to. Q . "What is the proper way to coil a cable?" A . "In the manner that the cables owner asks you to." One should know how to do both, and be proficient at both, and at figure eights, west coasting onto a box as well as over-under into a box. Size isn't always the indication of whether or not a cable chould be over-undered. Anything with a sheild, or with a twist (for CMR) should be over-undered to maintain the shield and to keep the twist. This will include very large, and very long audio snakes. If you can't OU now, your really going to be out by the time that glass fibre cables start coming down the pike. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "dale cyr" Subject: Re: Best Practice: Connecting widely dispersed audio systems Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:37:30 -0800 for the sake of clarification... think of this as a main system, with delay towers two or three blocks away, stageleft and stageright. if there is any interest, i will post the results of the tests of using the assisted listening system as the transmission medium. the goal, again, was to poll the listers for tried and proven, not too expensive, reliable, solutions to this problem. we seem to have this type of venture about a half dozen times a year in spokane, and none of the local sound pros are overjoyed with any of the various solutions that we have all tried. but the breadth of knowledge on this list is absolutely incredible. altho we are all interested in stagecraft, it seems almost all of us have former lives, alter egos, multiple jobs, etc. that come into play to solve the most unusual problems. i half expected somebody to respond with something like... oh,yea; we use those radios that they use on mount st. helens to transmit earthquake info. they're only $35 a piece and they transmit 80 miles. i think the guy that sells them, tommy, is lurking on this list. tommy? ya just never know... >I think I see the confusion. I was not even considering using a mixer or >having >anything except one microphone for the source. In other words, "we have a >speaker >here and need to hear what he/she says at several nearby locations". > >If it is more complex than that, then the possibility I offered would most >likely be >inappropriate. > >Bill > ------------------------------ From: joreth [at] techie.com Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 13:39:30 -0500 Subject: Re: First Gig Message-Id: <20070222183930.A79E61F50B1 [at] ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> > The only odd thing I found was on your stage/house layout. I have > always referred to FOH as meaning the side of the house closest to > the stage as opposed to the lobby side. I am willing to be wrong but > I have been doing it that way for about 40 years. That makes more semantic sense to me, but no, that is not the most common u= sage of the term. FOH as the "back" of the house is not a regional thing e= ither, as every single touring company from all over the world consistantly= use that term in the same manner. Also, FOH is used to designate where th= e lighting/sound boards will be going. So, most often, that is the "back" = of the house, like where the booth is in a permanent theatre, but on smalle= r venues, like corporate gigs, that can be on the side of the ballroom or c= loser towards the "stage". Generally speaking, however, it refers to the b= ooth or "tech table" behind the audience. > First, I have to agree with the other person who > mentioned that the the Foul language on the site is a I have already altered that. > Required/recommended tools vary by location. I like > your succinct "required" list, but I have problems > with your recommended list (a cordless drill? a box > cutter? A pen, a pencil, AND a sharpie? For EVERY That's why this is a "recommended" and not "required" list. These are the = tools requested most often that I see stagehands *not* bringing with them b= ecause they were told they were "electricians" for the day and left all the= ir other tools at home (including me). For local labor doing concerts and = corporate gigs, the sharpie should really be moved into the "required" cate= gory. Most of the guys I work with carry on their belt whatever they were = told would be needed that day, and keep the rest in a lock-box in their car= so they can grab it if needed. And I've seen a lot of shows saved thanks = to them. I stopped carrying the drill and box cutter, personally, because = I avoid all carpentry gigs now. Not that there's anything wrong with carpe= ntry gigs, but I'm trying to make a point to my companies that I prefer Cam= era gigs, regardless of my experience in all other areas. I do mention in = that section and in the "Get All The Info" section that the newbie should a= sk whoever schedules him what tools he should bring. > You are a little strict on the dress code. Yes, it is Yes, I am, simply because there are so many variables and so many different= companies with their own personal dress codes that, to discuss it would ta= ke a whole page on its own. I'm recommending the SAFEST attire for someone= on his FIRST GIG who doesn't know anything about the industry, with a note= that he can alter his dress after he's been around a while. I see too man= y newbies show up to a corporate gig in cut-off shorts with tattoos showing= , and I've seen too many college graduates showing up in dress khakis and b= utton-ups when they were hired to unload a truck. In fact, that section wa= s quite cumbersome and I've pared it down even further because it was overw= helming. What's the point of having a section called "proper dress code" i= f, for every "rule" I make, I start listing its exceptions? That just gets= confusing to the newbies and pretty soon they're not sure what to wear and= if it falls under any particular exception. Remember, this list is not fo= r veterans who know when it's OK to bend or break the rules. > The first thing you need to do when you arrive is sign > in. Then find your lead. Signing/clocking in makes > sure that there is record that you are there, so you > can get paid. It's important. For many touring shows (concerts and corporate events), which are how many = people get their start in the business, the Lead has the sign in sheet, or = can point you to it. Permanent venues will also have a Lead in charge of t= he sign in sheet or can tell a newbie where the clock is. Which is why I s= ay the first thing to do is check in with the Lead, and to do it 15 minutes= early. From there, the newbie will get all required instructions. > good, but between "A word about female stagehands" and > "Language on the Jobsite" I think you kind of beat it > to death. You might be able to tighten that up. Language on the Jobsite is not intended to be a female-specific admonition,= and in fact, I believe where I address any particular gender, it is men in= that section. > think it is best to be very very careful about using > cuss words, telling dirty jokes, and flirting with > other hands. Different venues and different people I did say to observe how your leads and co-workers around you act before le= tting out with something obnoxiously crude. > In the basic skills section: >=20 > I disagree that "most cable" should be coiled > over/under. This is a very specific technique that can > be beneficial for small cables like Mike cables and > data cables, keeping them from retaining the "memory" > of a coil, and enabling them to feed out easier and > lie flat once they do. Every international touring concert I've worked that has come through this = area in the last 5 years has requested that large cables like feeder and mu= lti get coiled over-under. Which is why I state "most" and not "all", and = why I suggest the newbie ask when in doubt. > you should never, ever coil a cable, even an extension > cord, around your elbow. It's bad for the cord and it > screams "newbie". This is a particular pet-peeve of mine and I should have mentioned it. Tha= nk you. =20 > meat rack already attached to unistrut or some other > kind of bar, or that come in attached to a truss, > should not be messed with. Nor should you change their This was in the section "Hanging Lighting Instruments". The instruments yo= u are talking about are already hung and I have yet to see anyone new go th= rough a section of truss with pre-hung instruments and "fix" them. However= , I will mention this because I'm sure *someone* won't be able to tell the = difference. > Your "Folding Drape" section is great for smaller > pieces, but for large, full stage theatrical drops, This was for Drape, not drops or backgrounds or cycs or any other piece of = soft goods. Those require a totally different method of folding, such as W= estcoasting or the more traditional fold. But I might mention there is a d= ifference. > You do realize that the guy who said the video should be updated is the g= uy > IN the video, right? I did after I hit the "send" button :-/ =20 > How about "predominantly male industry"? It's a fine semantic difference. Fine, if that will soothe everyone's delicate sensabilities, I'll change it. > When about feeder cable and cam-locks? For a newbie it can be hard to > tell which end is male and female, and then to have the possibility of > reversed neutral and ground. It has been my personal experience that most houses don't let outsiders mes= s with their feeder cables, and most touring electricians tend to give the = proper end to the stagehand who will run the cable for them. I also assume= d that someone, looking for the male and female ends, would look at the end= of the cam-lock, see the giant pin on one end and the giant hole on the ot= her, and figure out which was which. Either that, or the part about "when = in doubt, ask" would take care of it. Maybe that's too much to ask? While= I realize I'm writing for the lowest common denominator here (newbies with= no knowledge, not necessarily idiots), I am trying to find the balance bet= ween imparting important information and dumming it down *too* much. "Joreth" =3D Doctor Scales on Sale and in Stock We are one of the world's largest scale distributors. We sell all major bra= nds including Detecto, Healthometer, Medweigh, Seca & Tanita. We ship most = orders within 24 hours. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=3D8cce97802a9236ccedc78= 5b49da62d1b ------------------------------ From: Subject: Re: Re: Infrared monitor suggestions? Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 18:40:23 +0000 Message-Id: <20070222184023.QDDP17393.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [at] smtp.ntlworld.com> > > From: "Bill Nelson" > Date: 2007/02/22 Thu AM 10:43:42 GMT > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Re: Infrared monitor suggestions? > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > These cameras are pretty sensitive, so do not need a lot of IR wattage. > > It would be an interesting experiment to see if hot instruments over the stage would > provide enough IR, all by themselves - without need of preheat profiles. They might well. And the human body itself is a heat source. When doing HVAC calculations, each live body is taken as 100W. Frank Wood ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "RD" References: Subject: RE: passing of two greats in our industry Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:45:39 -0700 Message-ID: <030d01c756b1$a8981dd0$6501a8c0 [at] doom1> In-Reply-To: Fellow members of the Entertainment Industry: Owen Parker and I met many years ago, however we never worked together, but he was always supporting my work, for which I am grateful. Richard D. Thompson, and I did work together, a great, great deal over a period of nearly fifty years, on many projects, many safety and health related projects and clients. He contributed greatly to the industry with his knowledge and persistence for health and safety. We worked in the movie, theater, television, lighting, industry together, and he was an individual who moved awareness for health and safety forward. He shall be well remembered for his great contributions. Dr. Doom -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Bill Sapsis Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 9:13 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: passing of two greats in our industry For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- I never met Mr. Parker but Dick Thompson sat on several ESTA committees with me. He did indeed have great stories and he was deeply committed to the industry. People like Dick are hard to find nowadays. He will be missed. Thanks for the info, Jerry Bill S. ETCP Certified Rigger - Theatre ETCP Council Member www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 267.278.4561 mobile Help support the 4th annual Long Reach Long Riders charity motorcycle ride. July 29 - August 6, 2007. On 2/22/07 10:50 AM, "Theatre Safety Programs" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I just received this information today. > > Oren Parker passed away on January 29, 2007 in New Mexico, at the age > of 95. If you wish to send a personal note of condolence, it may be > addressed to Thelma (Teschie) Parker, 2619 Camino Cordoba SE, Rio > Rancho, NM 87124-8821. Memorial gifts are requested for the Oren > Parker Award for Undergraduate Scene Deisgn. Let's remember how much > we learned from this wonderful man. > > Richard D. (Dick) Thompson passed away in Van Nuys, CA on February > 12, 2007. He was a leader in the industry, ESTA, and the > USITT. Listening to Dick tell his stories about his experiences in > the industry was fascinating. I hope that we can keep his memory > alive through the stories we all remember. > > Jerry Gorrell > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:50:56 -0800 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: new pyro product (price) In-reply-to: Message-id: <20070222185055.DC08D1F432D [at] smtp.interstellar.com> References: At 10:00 AM 2/22/2007, Jerry Durand wrote: >Some people say this MUST have a key switch, even though it's only >one channel and intended to stay in your hand. Any thoughts on >this? I can add a key, but that's something to lose/break, more >complexity, and some added expense. More Key thoughts: Are the general requirements for a REMOVEABLE key, or could it be a code number you enter by some means? Is it ok that once it's unlocked, it stays unlocked until the user locks it again? ie: Once the code is entered, even turning off the unit doesn't re-lock it. You have to actually do something to re-lock it. That way the majority of people can just leave it permanently unlocked and not have a physical key to deal with. Also, how hard to pick/hack does the "key" have to be? -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand ------------------------------ From: Subject: Re: Re: touring with a tv camera and monitor for showcalling purposes Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 18:51:34 +0000 Message-Id: <20070222185134.FNUQ29112.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [at] smtp.ntlworld.com> > > From: "Bill Nelson" > Date: 2007/02/22 Thu AM 11:05:39 GMT > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Re: touring with a tv camera and monitor for showcalling > purposes > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > In all the venues where I have done lighting, it has always been the "light guy" who > has been responsible for cameras, video monitors and all such interconnections. The > sound person has only been expected to handle sound, including providing an audio > feed to be used for the video monitors in various areas of the building. Curiously, and typically, we do it the other way round. Historically, being in West London, we have been in the catchment area for the BBC, from which most of our engineering staff came. It so happened that the assistant project manager for our last update was first, Head of Sound, and second, a very experienced VT Editor. I, too was a TV engineer, paradoxically, for an LD, specialising in sound and communications. That's life. Frank Wood ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 13:55:33 -0500 From: "David Bowman" Subject: Re: Question about Strand 520i Ed, Steve is correct, however, I have also noticed that if you have a split time (x up / y down) and you change to a straight time and/or alter either the up or the down, you sometimes get the AttTime showing up. Why it does this automagically, I'm not sure. To my recollection (it been a bit since I've programmed our 430) Steve's solution for clearing is correct also. dave B. David M. Bowman Syracuse Stage / SU Drama Master Electrician / Adj. Professor dmbowman [at] syr.edu Dolor Temporarius... Gloria Aeterna.... Cicatrices Virgines Placent! >>> Ed.Hunter [at] Sun.COM 2/22/2007 3:26:14 AM >>> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- I'm using a Strand 520i in my current show. For some reason when I changed the time on some cues I get a notation next to the cue saying "AttTime 8". Eight was part of the orginal time of the cue so I suspect that's where it came from. As far as I can tell the cues follow the new timing but I can't find any documentation as to what "AttTime" means. I'm assuming it's attribute time but I didn't set it. Any 520i experts out there who can help me out? Thanks. -edh -- ------------------------------ From: Subject: Re: Re: Cheap solar power poised to undercut oil and gas by half (fwd) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 19:05:56 +0000 Message-Id: <20070222190556.ZAKX219.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [at] smtp.ntlworld.com> > > From: "richard j. archer" > Date: 2007/02/22 Thu PM 01:40:00 GMT > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Re: Cheap solar power poised to undercut oil and gas by half > (fwd) > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Well that's interesting. United Solar Ovonic has been making similar > panels for several years outside of Detroit. http://www.uni-solar.com > Selling it as fast as they can make it. Most of it goes to > California and to Germany where more enlightened law makers have > ensured utility buy back of any excess home solar production and > given tax incentives for home installation. Even our (oil executive) > President visited the plant about a year ago. Didn't notice anything > new at the White House but... > This all sounds like Robert A. Heinlein's 'Douglas-Martin Sunpower Screens'. He prophesied these back in the forties and fifties, and the social consequences. Frank Wood ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 14:09:41 -0500 From: Rigger Subject: Re: First Gig Cc: sdwheaton [at] fuse.net At 8:03 PM -0500 2/20/07, Paul Schreiner wrote: >> Have you got something goofy on that page? I can see your >> stagehandtees.com OK, but the Firstgig stuff crashes Firefox >> and Netscape every time... > > That's odd...I read it on Firefox just fine. ME TOO!!! -- Dave Vick rigger [at] tds.net Discipline is never an end in itself, only a means to an end. -- Robert Fripp ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 14:16:03 -0500 From: Rigger Subject: Re: first gig and paper work At 7:04 AM -0800 2/21/07, b Ricie wrote: >All the I-9 requires is that someone *LOOKS* at your >drivers license and social security card. You *DO NOT* >have to let them copy them. In today's word of >identity theft it is not recommended to let anyone >copy that info. If your employer wants to make a >photocopy of that info, simply point out that the >instructions on the form say review, not photocopy. If the employer wants a copy, and you want to get paid, you let them make a copy. Then you call your lawyer. I fought that battle decades ago with Michigan State University. I lost; they got a copy. -- Dave Vick rigger [at] tds.net Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music. ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 14:19:06 -0500 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Hedda Techie? At 7:42 AM -0800 2/21/07, Al Fitch wrote: >I also hate that term. Never have liked it but folks >outside the business see it as an acceptable endearing >term. Then it is our responsibility to train them that it isn't acceptable or endearing. -- Dave Vick rigger [at] tds.net If Helen Keller had psychic ability, would you say that she had a "fourth sense"? ------------------------------ From: Subject: Re: Re: foil, epee or sabre Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 19:25:03 +0000 Message-Id: <20070222192503.GEDJ29112.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [at] smtp.ntlworld.com> > > From: CB > Date: 2007/02/22 Thu AM 10:11:32 GMT > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Re: foil, epee or sabre > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > >I have deleted the rest of your post. I think it contains bad advice, and > bafd information. > > A true sign of the dedicated acolyte of ignorance. "Please don't tell me > any more facts that you have gleaned from experts and empirical > experiences, and I have already made up my mind". > Frank, you are wrong, simply wrong, and your advice is, in fact, dangerous. > Let's you and I discuss this off list where I can get you in contact with > the swordmakers, the fight instructors, the metallurgists, the fighters, > and the fight marshalls who all know better. By all means. A beer in a bar settles many differences, but 3,000 miles of sea separate us. But I remind you that I am also a swordsmith, as well as a fight arranger. Should you chance to cross the sea, let me know. Frank Wood ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 14:24:27 -0500 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Nyc TD job At 1:08 PM -0500 2/21/07, CB wrote: >>>> The pay is $600- $800. depending on >>>> experience. >>> For that kind of money in NYC you won't be able to afford to go to the >>> nearest bars. >>IIRC, for that kind of money you won't even be able to park anywhere >>near the nearest bars. > >I dunno about you guys, but that looks like a pretty decent day rate. >What're you guys getting? More. ...And that isn't a day-rate. -- Dave Vick rigger [at] tds.net I almost don't feel the way I do. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <77fad3270702221128k6a8c24bbn329167bda4f7a63e [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 14:28:10 -0500 From: "Nathan Kahn" Subject: Re: new pyro product (price) In-Reply-To: References: On 2/22/07, Jerry Durand wrote: > > At 11:17 AM 2/16/2007, Nathan Kahn wrote: > >Naah . . . you guys are way low. I can't see it retailing for less than $200. > > > >Nathan > > Well, since pyros tend to be poor, we're setting the price at $150 > including ground shipping in the lower 48 states. So you'll just have a "net to-the-trade" price, as opposed to end-user pricing and dealer discounts? Probably the simplest way is to keep a net price, with discounts based on qty rather than business entity. That would keep the end-user price lower too. Regarding your keyswitch question, my opinion is that so long as it complies with NFPA1126 it's fine. Although your idea of a digital passcode to be entered is not bad and probably wouldn't significantly increase the cost to mfg. Nathan -- Look Solutions USA, Ltd. Toll-Free: 1-800-426-4189 Email: usa [at] looksolutions.com Web: www.looksolutionsusa.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <77fad3270702221132n6c4db02dh4e9dae386f089cef [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 14:32:40 -0500 From: "Nathan Kahn" Subject: Re: Hazer In-Reply-To: References: FYI you can get a free demo Unique2 for evaluation, by filling out the form at: http://www.looksolutionsusa.com/stop_cleaning.shtml Regards, Nathan -- Look Solutions USA, Ltd. Toll-Free: 1-800-426-4189 Email: usa [at] looksolutions.com Web: www.looksolutionsusa.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 14:32:06 -0500 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Hedda Techie? At 4:09 PM -0500 2/21/07, CB wrote: > If the guy pays you, appreciates you, and listens to you. > Let him call you a 'techie' if he's using it as a term > of endearment. What if you're black, and the afore-mentioned guy is calling you "nigga" as a term of endearment? Would you be so quick to let it slide, Chris? Just curious... -- Dave Vick rigger [at] tds.net If Helen Keller had psychic ability, would you say that she had a "fourth sense"? ------------------------------ From: Subject: Re: Re: new pyro product (price) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 19:43:14 +0000 Message-Id: <20070222194315.RHLZ17393.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [at] smtp.ntlworld.com> > > From: Jerry Durand > Date: 2007/02/22 Thu PM 06:50:56 GMT > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Re: new pyro product (price) > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > Are the general requirements for a REMOVEABLE key, or could it be a > code number you enter by some means? Absolutely. If I am wiring up pyros, I want total assurance that they cannot be fired. Code mumbers are out. > > Is it ok that once it's unlocked, it stays unlocked until the user > locks it again? ie: Once the code is entered, even turning off the > unit doesn't re-lock it. You have to actually do something to > re-lock it. That way the majority of people can just leave it > permanently unlocked and not have a physical key to deal with. No. Period. > > Also, how hard to pick/hack does the "key" have to be? This should not be an issue, unless someone intends you GBH. There is no real substitute for a physical key, in the possession of the pyro rigger while he is doing his job. The firing box must be mechanically inactivated at this time. Lockckable key switches are not expensive: life is. Frank Wood ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam ------------------------------ From: Subject: Re: Re: new pyro product (price) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 19:43:26 +0000 Message-Id: <20070222194326.ZWDB219.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [at] smtp.ntlworld.com> > > From: Jerry Durand > Date: 2007/02/22 Thu PM 06:50:56 GMT > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Re: new pyro product (price) > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > Are the general requirements for a REMOVEABLE key, or could it be a > code number you enter by some means? Absolutely. If I am wiring up pyros, I want total assurance that they cannot be fired. Code mumbers are out. > > Is it ok that once it's unlocked, it stays unlocked until the user > locks it again? ie: Once the code is entered, even turning off the > unit doesn't re-lock it. You have to actually do something to > re-lock it. That way the majority of people can just leave it > permanently unlocked and not have a physical key to deal with. No. Period. > > Also, how hard to pick/hack does the "key" have to be? This should not be an issue, unless someone intends you GBH. There is no real substitute for a physical key, in the possession of the pyro rigger while he is doing his job. The firing box must be mechanically inactivated at this time. Lockckable key switches are not expensive: life is. Frank Wood ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:47:08 -0800 (PST) From: Al Fitch Subject: Re: Help trying to figure out why a channel doesn't work In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <404512.17162.qm [at] web84011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> It indeed was parked. Thanks for the info. Al --- Ford Sellers wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Al, > > Was it not the Parked channel? Does it say "Park > Enabled" when > you're in stage? If it says "Park enabled" in > either screen that > means that you do have parked channels or dimmers. > To fix that go > into [Stage], [S6] (park), and select the channel or > dimmer and then > hit [Release]. > > If it does not say "Park Enabled"...Can you bring > the channel up with > the [Channel] [1] [ [at] ] [Full] command? If so, is it > possible that the > faders are set as Subs? In [Setup] you can go into > System Settings > [1] then Set Channels/Submasters 1-to-1 [11]. that > would fix that problem. > > > ************************ > Ford H Sellers > Master Electrician > Cornell University > Schwartz Center for the Performing Arts > 430 College Avenue > Ithaca NY, 14850 > (607) 254-2736 office > (607) 254-2733 fax > > Be Kind, Smile and Have Fun. ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 14:49:30 -0500 From: Rigger Subject: Re: First Gig At 10:33 AM -0500 2/22/07, CB wrote: >Look, I've been called worse. Lots worse. As long as it's in fun or in an >attempt (be it successful or not) you can pretty much get away with calling >me anything. Except late for break. ...And "honey," evidently. -- Dave Vick rigger [at] tds.net "No comment" is a comment. ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 13:18:03 +0000 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: Infrared monitor suggestions? References: In-Reply-To: In message , Bill Nelson writes >It would be an interesting experiment to see if hot instruments over >the stage would provide enough IR, all by themselves - without need of >preheat profiles. The camera's kinda expect infra red from just the very end of the visible spectrum like 880nm so just hot metal might not be good enough. But maybe a very low level touch on a filament may produce light at that wavelength. Dunno. But a friend did the gelling trick with a 500W halogen and he said it worked a treat while the gel lasted. -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <45DE1772.3010405 [at] gmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:21:38 -0700 From: Chip Wood Subject: Re: Cheap solar power poised to undercut oil and gas by half (fwd) References: In-Reply-To: Charlie Richmond wrote: > > Monday view: Cheap solar power poised to undercut oil and gas by half > Charlie I have read stuff like this for over 30 years. It always seems to be "available 5 years from now". As much as I want this, wishing does not make it so. An example of why this will not work even if it undercuts traditional electricity by half, is my Homeowners Association. They forbid outdoor clothes lines even tho in AZ I have incredible FREE solar power to dry my clothes. They forbid solar collectors where they can be seen from the street or by a neighbor. It's rarely the technology that stops progress, it's people and politics. Those are usually bought by the Oil Barons, just ask Cheney! Chip ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:59:24 -0500 Subject: Re: Nyc TD job From: Steve Shelley Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Folks; I think it is weekly though I don't know. Those that might be interested can inquire directly with the potential employer. To those who have spent years in the industry the pay may seem inadequate. When I moved to nyc my first paychecks from the public were less than a quarter of this potential amount. Money is much different now than then, but for someone wanting to get their foot in the nyc door, I consider this an opportunity. shelley On 2/22/07 2:24 PM, "Rigger" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > At 1:08 PM -0500 2/21/07, CB wrote: > >>>>> The pay is $600- $800. depending on >>>>> experience. >>>> For that kind of money in NYC you won't be able to afford to go to the >>>> nearest bars. >>> IIRC, for that kind of money you won't even be able to park anywhere >>> near the nearest bars. >> >> I dunno about you guys, but that looks like a pretty decent day rate. >> What're you guys getting? > > > More. > > ...And that isn't a day-rate. -- Steve Shelley SoftSymbols Designer MrTemplate [at] Earthlink.net www.fieldtemplate.com ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #1153 ******************************