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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #1156

 1. Re: Modular connectors
    by "Paul Schreiner" <paulschreiner42 [at] gmail.com>
 2. Re: Foot switch activator?
    by "Paul Marsland" <pmarsland [at] gmail.com>
 3. Re: Modular connectors
    by "Brooke Carlson" <bcarlson1 [at] gmail.com>
 4. Re: First Gig
    by Stuart Wheaton <sdwheaton [at] fuse.net>
 5. Re: First Gig.
    by joreth [at] techie.com
 6. Re: First Gig.
    by "Matthew Breton" <theatricalmatt [at] hotmail.com>
 7. Re: First Gig.
    by MissWisc [at] aol.com
 8. Re: Modular connectors
    by "Brian Munroe" <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
 9. Re: "Techie"
    by "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>
10. Re: "Techie"
    by Kh97925 [at] aol.com
11. Re: "Techie"
    by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <jeff.salzberg [at] comcast.net>
12. Re: First Gig
    by "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>

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Message-ID: <f23a0f840702231937m6a7dab95l26dd1965053ee0a5 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 22:37:32 -0500
From: "Paul Schreiner" <paulschreiner42 [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Modular connectors
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> Are you using the tool designed for crimping these connectors, or a generic one?

That might be the problem.  The catalog doesn't indicate (at least as
far as I could see) that one needed a matching tool to make it work...

You wouldn't happen to have a catalog number for me on this, would you?

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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 23:11:25 -0500
From: "Paul Marsland" <pmarsland [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Foot switch activator?
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Hey Shelley,

I will have to second Jeff Salzberg -- the box is easy to build (mine
was a four button for an express 250; I put a go command on a remote
button so I could sit back and web-surf while I ran a show) it's all
fully explained in the manual.

You can adapt from the back of the board to XLR (male, of course) and
run down a sound line to the stage and adapt back to any guitar
accessory footswitch.

Hell, I could probably build you one for about $20 worth of parts and
a couple of hours (if that).

Let me know - it might be a fun project.

Paul

> >
> >
> >>>> Steve Shelley <mrtemplate [at] earthlink.net> 2/23/2007 4:50 PM >>>

> >
> > In the meantime, I thought it might be interesting to pose this
> > scenario to
> > the list and see if anyone had ever heard of, or considered such a
> > device.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
>
> --
> Steve Shelley
> SoftSymbols Designer
> MrTemplate [at] Earthlink.net
> www.fieldtemplate.com
>
>
>

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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 20:15:16 -0800
From: "Brooke Carlson" <bcarlson1 [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Modular connectors
In-Reply-To: <list-42767934 [at] prxy.net>
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> > Are you using the tool designed for crimping these connectors, or a generic one?
>
> That might be the problem.  The catalog doesn't indicate (at least as
> far as I could see) that one needed a matching tool to make it work...
>
> You wouldn't happen to have a catalog number for me on this, would you?

The catalog does leave that bit out.  I don't use a lot of these, so
while I buy my own connectors, I borrow the crimper from the
electricians, who graciously loan it in the spirit of
interdepartmental cooperation.

Which translates to "I'm not sure where they got it, but what it says on it is:"

Anderson Power Products
PP 15/30
#12/20 AWG
Part #1309G2

Hope that helps.

-- 
Brooke Carlson
Automation Carpenter
Lion King - Cheetah Tour

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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 23:37:04 -0500
From: Stuart Wheaton <sdwheaton [at] fuse.net>
Reply-To:  sdwheaton [at] fuse.net
Subject: Re: First Gig
References: <list-42669511 [at] prxy.net> <list-42762605 [at] prxy.net> <list-42766663 [at] prxy.net>
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Brian Munroe wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
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> 
> On 2/23/07, Bruce Purdy <bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com> wrote:
> 
>>    That's an excellent description of the way I always thought of as the
>> "Correct" way to fold a drop. I have found lately, however, two different
>> rental houses that send out specific folding instructions - both of them
>> specifying to accordion fold the drop across, then to fold it bottom 
>> to top.
> 
> I have called that style of folding a "shop-fold" because that is the
> way that new drops seem to be folded in the shop.  It makes hanging
> drops a PITA because you need a lot more floor space to unfold the
> drop and get to the ties.

Unless you are hanging them on a traveler track, then it makes it a lot 
easier and less space consuming.

Stuart

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From: joreth [at] techie.com
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 23:41:55 -0500
Subject: Re: First Gig.
Message-Id: <20070224044155.F030D1BF297 [at] ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com>

> More profanity, just for the sake of saying it...  I like profanity,
> don't get me wrong. I often talk like a sailor. Funny though, when you
> post it to a list, or on a website,  it seems rude.

I cuss.  I'm not alone.  That's the whole point of the Language section.  S=
wearing is a normal part of my vocabulary and a normal part of the backstag=
e vocabularly ... and that goes from coast to coast in all venues and style=
s of entertainment.  I am already toning it down for email.  When I cuss AT=
 you, then you'll know I'm being rude.


> Translated into... I asked, and I did not hear what I wanted to hear,
> so I'll just do it my way.  Good thing all of these knowledgeable
> people took time out of their lives to make constructive comments.

Try not to translate if you are not a native or fluent speaker of that lang=
uage.  Since you don't know me at all, you should not even attempt to put w=
ords into my mouth like that since you have no idea what I "mean".  General=
ly, I say what I mean and there is no subtle subtext behind it.

No, it does not mean "I asked and didn't hear what I wanted to hear so I'll=
 just do it my way".  Apparently you didn't keep up with the 4 or 5 revisio=
ns I made along the way as comments came in.  I made several adjustments ba=
sed on comments I got through this mailing list.  What it means is exactly =
what I said.  I'm comfortable with it now in its current state (several rev=
isions later) and I'm ready to present it publicly, although I will continu=
e to update and revise it in the future.  Period.  It was an announcement t=
hat the page is going public, for those who care to see it.

>      When wrapping anyone else's stuff however, the first thing to do is =
ASK
> how they prefer their cables (Mike or other) wrapped. In my experience, m=
ost
> do NOT want over/under, so Be sure to check how THEY want it done.

I even made the phrase "when in doubt" in red writing ... all over the page=
 ... so hopefully everyone can finally see that I am and have always been a=
dvocating to check with individual preferences first.



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From: "Matthew Breton" <theatricalmatt [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: First Gig.
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 23:52:25 -0500

>I cuss.  I'm not alone.  That's the whole point of the Language section.

You know, the more I read this thread, the more it seems you've created 
"What *I* think newbies should know," rather than "What new stage crew 
members should know."  There's a palpable difference.


Matthew Breton
Design for Theater and Dance

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From: MissWisc [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <d57.2ff6ea0.33113261 [at] aol.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 01:17:05 EST
Subject: Re: First Gig.

joreth [at] techie.com writes:
<<  Swearing is [...] a  normal part of the backstage vocabularly ... and 
that goes from coast to coast  in all venues and styles of entertainment.   >>
 
You are wrong.
 
Theatre people tend to be far more tolerant than folks in other  fields. They 
won't say "what an idiot - can't get through a sentence  without swearing" 
but they are thinking that while mentally  noting to never hire you, recommend 
you, or work with you again. You'd  be fired on the spot at many venues; 
counseled to watch your mouth at most  others. It's RARELY appropriate. Period. 
 
A loader rolls a crate over your foot, rigger drops a pin from the grid,  
performer falls off the platform... yeah, let the words out and no one will  
fault you. Swear words should be reserved for expressing extreme emotions. But  if 
you can't communicate in regular conversation without resorting to  swearing, 
you are demonstrating a lack of knowledge of the English  language.
 
Granted.. if you want to work backstage for washed up heavy  metal band from 
the 80s that's playing second rate arenas, Tuesdays at  county fairs, and bars 
in towns of less than 3,000 people with one bus and a  Wells Fargo trailer... 
swear away. But that is a VERY slim  faction of the entertainment industry. I 
prefer to work with the professionals  who take their career seriously. 
 
My instinct is that you think you need to swear to be "one of the  boys". Try 
being a person who only swears in extreme  circumstances and you'll find you 
will be taken more  seriously when you do. 
 
Kristi
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 01:27:25 -0500
From: "Brian Munroe" <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Modular connectors
In-Reply-To: <list-42767934 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-42758287 [at] prxy.net> <list-42767077 [at] prxy.net>
	 <list-42767934 [at] prxy.net>

On 2/23/07, Paul Schreiner <paulschreiner42 [at] gmail.com> wrote:

> You wouldn't happen to have a catalog number for me on this, would you?

Paul, check out www.andersonpower.com.

Brian Munroe
bpmunroe.com

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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 22:28:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: "Techie"
From: "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>

>> Putting aside the humor just for a moment, and acknowledging Chris's points
>> about the power of words, the "techie" issue has some resonance for me now
>> that I am working at the high school level.
>
> It is really class discrimination. "Techie" covers anything from SM and LD down. It
> implies that any one who is associated with the mechanics of a show is of a lower
> grade than those who appear in it.

I don't see it that way. There is little or no relationship between acting and tech
work, so higher/lower comparisons between the two groups do not apply.

There are actors that look down on any tech person, usually the same "prima donnas"
that look down on all other actors.

There are actors that appreciate tech and understand that what the techs do makes
that actor sound and look good on stage. They may even "look up" to a talented tech.

There are actors that don't even think about the matter. They concentrate on doing
what they are supposed to do and expect the other actors and techs to do their jobs
as well. This is where we all belong. We are all in the same business, entertaining
an audience.

There are techs that fit all the above categories as well.

Bill






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From: Kh97925 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <c37.c4d6426.3311378d [at] aol.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 01:39:09 EST
Subject: Re: "Techie"

In a message dated 2/23/2007 2:36:57 P.M.  Eastern Standard Time, 
frank.wood95 [at] ntlworld.com writes:
It is really class  discrimination. "Techie" covers anything from SM and LD 
down. It implies that  any one who is associated with the mechanics of a show 
is of a lower grade than  those who appear in it.

No more than referring to the musicians as  musicians rather than by 
instrument they play, or referring to the actors as  actors instead of by either their 
name or character. 
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From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <jeff.salzberg [at] comcast.net>
Subject: RE: "Techie"
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 01:52:58 -0500
Message-ID: <018501c757e0$7157d1a0$6601a8c0 [at] Dell>
In-Reply-To: <list-42773689 [at] prxy.net>



> No more than referring to the musicians as  musicians rather than by=20
> instrument they play, or referring to the actors as  actors=20
> instead of by either their=20
> name or character.=20

That would be true if we were discussing the word "technician"; use of
"techie" would be analogous to referring to the "musies" and "acties".  =
It's
dismissive.  It's a euphemism for, "all those folks who don't really
matter."


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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 23:21:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: First Gig
From: "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>

> Which is why my page says "in lighting, females have the power and in audio, males
> have the power, but when in doubt, ask".  In this case, "power" is meant to cover
> all signal, whether it's electricity or sound or whatever, to simplify a phrase for
> ease of remembering.  I've tried the phrase "males lead", but it confused a lot of
> newbies because they weren't sure which way was "leading".  When I say "female has
> the power", they seem to get it that they need to bring the "power" to the
> instrument and therefore that end goes to the instrument.  But it's not written in
> stone, some instruments have it against the "rule" (in the case of video projection,
> for instance, both ends of the VGA are male), and everyone has their own little
> catch phrases, which is why I repeatedly tell the newbie on the page to ASK.

Which is why I expect the person to look at the items to be connected and find out
which end of the cable goes where. If they don't have enough initiative/sense to do
that, and end up stringing the cable backwards, then I don't want them on my crew.

Bill






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