Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.1.8 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: stagecraft Digest #2 Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 14:16:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="------------------------------------------------------_338320464_-" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="stagecraft Digest #2" --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline For info on subscribing, unsubscribing, and suspending your list subscription, go to the Stagecraft web site at: http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #2 1. Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List by ken [at] kenholyoak.com (Ken Holyoak) 2. Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List by Rigger 3. Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List by Charlie Richmond 4. Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List by Barney Simon 5. That answers the 2nd list question... but by Barney Simon 6. Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List by "Scott C. Parker" 7. Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List by Charlie Richmond 8. Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List by 9. Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List by Pat Kight 10. Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List by "Paul Guncheon" 11. Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List by Rigger 12. Re: Yahoo list by "MARK OBRIEN" 13. Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List by Jerry Durand 14. Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List by Jerry Durand 15. Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List by Richard Niederberg 16. Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List by Richard Niederberg 17. Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List by Boyd Ostroff 18. Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List by Davy Davis 19. joining foam by "Storms, Randy" 20. Re: joining foam by Boyd Ostroff 21. Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List by "Joseph M. Meils" 22. Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List by Charlie Richmond 23. Re: joining foam by 24. Re: joining foam by "Stephen E. Rees" 25. Re: joining foam by Jerry Durand 26. Re: joining foam by "Jonathan Reed" 27. Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List by Pat Kight 28. Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List by "Scott C. Parker" 29. Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List by Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com 30. Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List by Charlie Richmond 31. (not craft) Director's Gift by ish [at] twcny.rr.com 32. Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List by Richard Niederberg 33. Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List by Richard Niederberg 34. Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List by Charlie Richmond 35. Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List by Charlie Richmond 36. Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List by Boyd Ostroff 37. Re: joining foam by Shell Dalzell 38. Web list (was Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List) by Noah Price 39. Re: Web list (was Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List) by "Steven Haworth" 40. Web based list by CB 41. Re: Web list (was Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List) by Mike Brubaker 42. Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List by Chanter 43. Jamming inside Theatres by Richard Niederberg 44. Re: Jamming inside Theatres by "Storms, Randy" 45. Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List by "Chad Croteau" 46. Re: Jamming inside Theatres by Boyd Ostroff 47. Thanks Noah! by "Chad Croteau" 48. Re: Jamming inside Theatres by Stephen Litterst 49. Re: Jamming inside Theatres by "Matt Breton" 50. Re: Jamming inside Theatres by Jerry Durand 51. Boyd's thoughts on lists by Herrick 52. Job(s) Posting by Dave Bowman 53. Re: Boyd's thoughts on lists by "Paul Schreiner" 54. Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List by MissWisc [at] aol.com 55. Re: **SPAM****SPAM****SPAM** Re: Jamming inside Theatres by "Sandra Hunter" 56. Re: Jamming inside Theatres by Rigger 57. Spam bucket by Jerry Durand 58. Re: Jamming inside Theatres by "Sarah Clausen" 59. Re: Web list (was Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List) by Howard Ires 60. Re: (not craft) Director's Gift by *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- From: ken [at] kenholyoak.com (Ken Holyoak) Subject: Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 07:22:35 -0500 I was thinking earlier this morning about what happened to the list. Then I read my eMail - This has the making of a great day Kenneth. H. Holyoak Information + Insight = Profit POB 68633 Indianapolis, IN 46268-0633 ken [at] kenholyoak.com 317-253-7000 --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 08:25:01 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List So now we have two active lists, plus whatever Steve's sitting on? Hm. This could get interesting... -- Dave Vick, IATSE #274 Head Electrician, The Wharton Center for Performing Arts at Michigan State University Carpe Per Diem --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 13:44:05 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List On Mon, 10 May 2004, Rigger wrote: > So now we have two active lists, plus whatever Steve's sitting on? I will be shutting the Yahoo list down soon... Charlie > > Hm. This could get interesting... > > -- > Dave Vick, IATSE #274 > Head Electrician, > The Wharton Center for Performing Arts at Michigan State University > > > Carpe Per Diem > + Charlie Richmond - Richmond Sound Design Ltd - Aura Show Control Ltd + + http://www.RichmondSoundDesign.com -- http://www.AuraShowControl.com + +---- "Performance for the Long Run" ----- "Creativity in Control" ----+ +------ To get info or join the Show Control Mailing List go to: ------+ +----------- http://www.RichmondSoundDesign.com/sclist.html -----------+ +---------------- AudioBox user group discussion list: ----------------+ +----------- http://www.RichmondSoundDesign.com/ablist.html -----------+ "Let distribution undo excess - And each man have enough" - King Lear --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 08:56:16 -0400 From: Barney Simon Subject: Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List Thanks Noah: Let me know if there is anything I can do to help. and Dave: "Two active lists..." did I miss something? Barney Simon JCHansen Co. --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 09:00:35 -0400 From: Barney Simon Subject: That answers the 2nd list question... but I do want to do some email subscription maintance, when can I do that without screwing you up Noah. Barney --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 09:21:10 -0400 From: "Scott C. Parker" Subject: Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List What Yahoo list??? At 08:44 AM 5/10/2004, you wrote: > > So now we have two active lists, plus whatever Steve's sitting on? > >I will be shutting the Yahoo list down soon... > >Charlie Scott C. Parker Production Designer/Technical Director High School Tech Production Web Site hstech~AT~hstech.org High Schoolers: come visit the HS Tech Web Site... http://www.hstech.org Our Mission: To assist High School Technical Theater students in their desire to learn about, create, and execute theatrical productions. --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 14:26:35 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List On Mon, 10 May 2004, Scott C. Parker wrote: > What Yahoo list??? I set up a YahooGroups list to communicate with the people who have been discussing what to do since Steve had not been heard from... Now that this one is up and running, we don't need that one now ;-) Charlie --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- From: Subject: Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 9:32:23 -0400 > Thank you Noah! I don't know how much longer I could have survived > without my daily Stagecraft fix! It's good to be back. I am so glad I am not the only one with this perverse love of checking stagecraft email. I was sure it was just my twisted mind. It is different with the knowledge of others with the same ailment. Thanks Noah, I am sure it was just self preservation to slow down the fervent email queries of "where is the list", either way we appreciate it. Greg Bierly Hempfield HS --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 06:52:54 -0700 From: Pat Kight Subject: Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List Noah Price wrote: > Hello everyone! > > As we approach 6 weeks without the Stagecraft list, more and more people > are clammering for the return of the list. While waiting for Steve to > have time to return, I'm doing my best to restore the list. You can > treat this as a continuation of the very same list. > > I know Steve had been dealing with problems with his ISP, and was > working with them to try to fix his connection. When I last heard from > Steve several weeks ago, he had recently welcomed a new daughter. > Congratulations Steve and family! Between that and his new job, he has > many demands which have kept him from responding to our email. I'm sure > we'll hear from him soon! Thank you Noah - and congratulations, Steve! Every so-many years, the list has had to find a new home and a new keeper. If it's time for that to happen again, then I'm glad we had someone with the know-how to step in and resurrect it. Maintaining a list this big and active is no easy job; Steve deserves our thanks for keeping it going for so long in the midst of life and career changes. My mailbox has been strangely empty the last six weeks. I look forward to it filling back up again. -- Pat Kight kightp [at] peak.org --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- From: "Paul Guncheon" Subject: Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 04:28:13 -1000 What Yahoo list? Laters, Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie Richmond" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 2:44 AM Subject: Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List > For info on subscribing, unsubscribing, and suspending > your list subscription, go to the Stagecraft web site at: > http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ > --------------------------------------------------- > > > On Mon, 10 May 2004, Rigger wrote: > > > So now we have two active lists, plus whatever Steve's sitting on? > > I will be shutting the Yahoo list down soon... > > Charlie > > > > > Hm. This could get interesting... > > > > -- > > Dave Vick, IATSE #274 > > Head Electrician, > > The Wharton Center for Performing Arts at Michigan State University > > > > > > Carpe Per Diem > > > > + Charlie Richmond - Richmond Sound Design Ltd - Aura Show Control Ltd + > + http://www.RichmondSoundDesign.com -- http://www.AuraShowControl.com + > +---- "Performance for the Long Run" ----- "Creativity in Control" ----+ > +------ To get info or join the Show Control Mailing List go to: ------+ > +----------- http://www.RichmondSoundDesign.com/sclist.html -----------+ > +---------------- AudioBox user group discussion list: ----------------+ > +----------- http://www.RichmondSoundDesign.com/ablist.html -----------+ > "Let distribution undo excess - And each man have enough" > - King Lear > --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 10:31:40 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List Noah, Do you want me to forward the announcement to R.A.T.S. for you? There's been some discussion of the List's whereabouts over there... -- Dave Vick, IATSE #274 Head Electrician, The Wharton Center for Performing Arts at Michigan State University Carpe Per Diem --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- From: "MARK OBRIEN" Subject: Re: Yahoo list Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 07:35:01 -0700 Yahoo list... You did not invite me! Mark O'Brien > > >On Mon, 10 May 2004, Rigger wrote: > > > So now we have two active lists, plus whatever Steve's sitting on? > >I will be shutting the Yahoo list down soon... > >Charlie > _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 07:41:08 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List Thanks for all the work. I guess I can stop pacing now and go back to reading! Ok everybody, what have you all been up to? ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 07:42:20 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List At 05:44 AM 5/10/2004, you wrote: >For info on subscribing, unsubscribing, and suspending >your list subscription, go to the Stagecraft web site at: > http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ >--------------------------------------------------- > > >On Mon, 10 May 2004, Rigger wrote: > > > So now we have two active lists, plus whatever Steve's sitting on? > >I will be shutting the Yahoo list down soon... > >Charlie Yahoo list? I WAS out of town (and touch)! ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 07:44:42 -0700 Subject: Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List From: Richard Niederberg Dear Noah, Thank You for your work and initiative in restoring the stagecraft list. /s/ Richard I'm doing my best to restore the list. > Noah ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 07:44:08 -0700 Subject: Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List From: Richard Niederberg For an analogy, wasn't it Thomas Jefferson who suggested that a change of government [moderator?] every twenty years [five?] was healthy? /s/ Richard > Every so-many years, the list has had to find a > new home and a new keeper. > Pat Kight ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 10:49:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Boyd Ostroff Subject: Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List Thanks for your efforts Noah. I haven't been a part of any discussions you guys may have had about reviving the list, so I'll throw in my two bits here. I have missed hearing from everyone as well, but honestly I have not missed the volume of mail. I know this is heresy, but I'll say it anyway. In the past I was always a big advocate of the e-mail list concept, but I think it's time has come and gone and I don't know how much longer I want to continue with it myself. With all the spam and other mail I get these days it's just too much to sift through. And the digest doesn't really help since it puts too many messages together. I would really be in favor of migrating to a web based interface. In the past I have disliked these, but they've improved. And if you don't put ads and graphics online they can be very fast. I am one of the moderators at a site that runs under vBulletin and have grown very fond of their approach. There are many, many advantages, not the least of which is that you can read through messages at your own pace and nothing piles up in your inbox. The ability to have multiple forums is also helpful in filter out the stuff you aren't interested in. If you haven't seen a good implementation of this then vist DVinfo.net sometime: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf I suggest that we at least CONSIDER such an option.... Boyd Ostroff ooo Opera Company of Philadelphia Director of Design & Technology ooooooo 1420 Locust St, Suite 210 ostroff [at] operaphilly.com ooooooo Philadelphia, PA 19102 http://tech.operaphilly.com ooo (215) 893-3600 x225 --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 09:06:03 -0600 From: Davy Davis Subject: Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List I would also like to add my 2 cents for a web-based forum. I am often out of town for extended periods and in order not to get my email box shut down for being full I have to unsubscribe and then resubscribe. It is often very difficult to know what has been discussed while I was gone but the forums I am members of make it very easy to see all the new topics since I last logged on and read the ones of interest. Davy William Temple (Davy) Davis Chair, Department of Theatre University of Denver --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- From: "Storms, Randy" Subject: joining foam Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 08:11:55 -0700 Hey all - glad we're back! Does anyone know of a good way to join panels of Dow insulation foam ("blue board")? I work with this stuff a lot but I have yet to find a satisfactory adhesive or hardware solution. Panels must join edge-to-edge, face-to-face, and edge-to-face. Cheers, -- r. Randy "looking for work in the Seattle/Portland area" Storms rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 11:21:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Boyd Ostroff Subject: Re: joining foam The best adhesive we've found for foam is "StayPut II" which is available from OutWater Plastics (800 631-8375). It is sold in a 30 lb pressurized tank and you'll need a hose and spray gun. The adhesive is their part #SAS-66-BL and costs about $300, the sprayer and 12' hose cost us $270. Boyd Ostroff ooo Opera Company of Philadelphia Director of Design & Technology ooooooo 1420 Locust St, Suite 210 ostroff [at] operaphilly.com ooooooo Philadelphia, PA 19102 http://tech.operaphilly.com ooo (215) 893-3600 x225 --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- From: "Joseph M. Meils" Subject: Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 10:24:35 -0500 Oh! You mean it's just a technical problem? I thought I'd been kicked off! LOL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Boyd Ostroff" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 9:49 AM Subject: Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List > For info on subscribing, unsubscribing, and suspending > your list subscription, go to the Stagecraft web site at: > http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ > --------------------------------------------------- > > > Thanks for your efforts Noah. I haven't been a part of any discussions you > guys may have had about reviving the list, so I'll throw in my two bits > here. I have missed hearing from everyone as well, but honestly I have not > missed the volume of mail. I know this is heresy, but I'll say it anyway. > In the past I was always a big advocate of the e-mail list concept, but I > think it's time has come and gone and I don't know how much longer I want > to continue with it myself. With all the spam and other mail I get these > days it's just too much to sift through. And the digest doesn't really > help since it puts too many messages together. > > I would really be in favor of migrating to a web based interface. In the > past I have disliked these, but they've improved. And if you don't put ads > and graphics online they can be very fast. I am one of the moderators at a > site that runs under vBulletin and have grown very fond of their approach. > There are many, many advantages, not the least of which is that you can > read through messages at your own pace and nothing piles up in your inbox. > The ability to have multiple forums is also helpful in filter out the > stuff you aren't interested in. If you haven't seen a good implementation > of this then vist DVinfo.net sometime: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf > > I suggest that we at least CONSIDER such an option.... > > Boyd Ostroff ooo Opera Company of Philadelphia > Director of Design & Technology ooooooo 1420 Locust St, Suite 210 > ostroff [at] operaphilly.com ooooooo Philadelphia, PA 19102 > http://tech.operaphilly.com ooo (215) 893-3600 x225 > --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 16:31:56 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List On Mon, 10 May 2004, Boyd Ostroff wrote: > I suggest that we at least CONSIDER such an option.... As long as one can participate via email as well (normally an option with better software ;-) Charlie --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- From: Subject: Re: joining foam Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 11:33:01 -0400 > Does anyone know of a good way to join panels of Dow insulation foam ("blue > board")? Panels must join >edge-to-edge, I just gaffer both front and back >face-to-face, White glue or flexbond. Screws if I can >edge-to-face. White glue or flexbond, screws and gaffes tape. I haven't been had any luck with blueboard construction adhesive. Foamcote has also worked for me. Once the archives are up there have been a lot of good suggestions in the past. I have been interested in the Green Contact Cement and spray adheasives made for foam. Greg Bierly Hempfield HS --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 11:47:04 -0400 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Subject: Re: joining foam Boy am I glad to see the list back. Sure missed it. Randy-Have you tried Dow PL-300? It is specifically designed for the Blue-Board. Sticks foam to foam itself pretty well but is a bit questionable on certain other materials like painted wood. Have to read and follow the directions - something y freshman shop types can't figure out too well. Instead of nails to pin pieces together, I have been using very thin welding rod or brazing rod instead. I have a lot of that surplus since we only use the MIG now. HTH. Steve Rees, TD SUNY-Fredonia Storms, Randy wrote: > Hey all - glad we're back! > > Does anyone know of a good way to join panels of Dow insulation foam [snipped] --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 08:41:57 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: joining foam At 08:21 AM 5/10/2004, you wrote: >The best adhesive we've found for foam is "StayPut II" which is available >from OutWater Plastics (800 631-8375). It is sold in a 30 lb pressurized >tank and you'll need a hose and spray gun. The adhesive is their part >#SAS-66-BL and costs about $300, the sprayer and 12' hose cost us $270. I've just found and started playing with the foaming urethane glue (Elmer's "Ultimate Glue"). It seems like it will be useful for a lot of things, but a retired contractor friend said "that stuff falls apart after a year or two". First, since he's retired I doubt he's even used this, but does anyone else have any comments about life expectancy and uses/warnings for this? ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Subject: Re: joining foam Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 10:47:52 -0500 From: "Jonathan Reed" We've had good luck with water based contact cement. "PL" is our brand of choice, but mostly because it's available. It works great with large surface areas, but I haven't tried edge-to-edge. We use it with Dow board and bead foam to join to itself, as well as all lumber materials. Works very much like "greenglue", without the pretty color (the PL brand dries milky white.) I've also used a "foam board compatible" construction adhesive (PL 300). It comes in tubes to be applied with a caulk gun and sticks to foam, wood, concrete, metal, drywall, fiberglass. . . The downside is that it has a LONG cure time (we've struck scenery at the end of a run and found un-dried areas where ventilation was poor.) Good luck! =20 Jonathan A. Reed, Technical Director Department of Theatre - Cornell College, Mount Vernon, Iowa Arrow Rock Lyceum Theatre - Arrow Rock, Missouri Home: (319) 895-8476 - Office: (319) 895-4443 - Cellular: (319) 270-6100 Email: jon [at] reed-design.com - Web: www.reed-design.com =20 =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Storms, Randy Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 10:12 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: joining foam For info on subscribing, unsubscribing, and suspending your list subscription, go to the Stagecraft web site at: http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ --------------------------------------------------- Hey all - glad we're back! Does anyone know of a good way to join panels of Dow insulation foam ("blue board")? I work with this stuff a lot but I have yet to find a satisfactory adhesive or hardware solution. Panels must join edge-to-edge, face-to-face, and edge-to-face. Cheers, -- r. Randy "looking for work in the Seattle/Portland area" Storms rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 08:48:34 -0700 From: Pat Kight Subject: Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List Charlie Richmond wrote: >For info on subscribing, unsubscribing, and suspending >your list subscription, go to the Stagecraft web site at: > http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ >--------------------------------------------------- > > >On Mon, 10 May 2004, Boyd Ostroff wrote: > > > >>I suggest that we at least CONSIDER such an option.... >> >> > >As long as one can participate via email as well (normally an option with better >software ;-) > As a regular in a Usenet-based forum that also has a Web interface, I'd only caution that the latter can attract a lot of drive-by postings, both on-topic and otherwise, and the level of discourse tends to decline accordingly. If the list goes Web-based, I'd strongly suggest requiring registration and a login-password scheme to to discourage casual google-hoppers. Moderation is also a good idea but it's a huge amount of work for the person who volunteers to moderate. Truthfully, even though I'm a Webgeek in my day job, I probably wouldn't keep up with the list on a Web forum, because I wouldn't *have* to. -- Pat Kight kightp [at] peak.org --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 11:57:39 -0400 From: "Scott C. Parker" Subject: Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List As many of you know, I maintain a mailing list for high school tech. I use Yahoo which gives the user a choice of receiving individual mail, digest, and/or visiting the web site. Granted, a small ad is inserted, but they are easily ignored. I prefer to receive individual mail. As the archives have been down for a while, I have my own. Yup, dating pretty far back. I also like sorting by my own preferences. Usually by date. But then by subject when I want to read about just that subject. I also sort by sender on occasion. My vote is to keep the capability of receiving individual mail. Thanks Noah, Scott Scott C. Parker Production Designer/Technical Director High School Tech Production Web Site hstech~AT~hstech.org High Schoolers: come visit the HS Tech Web Site... http://www.hstech.org Our Mission: To assist High School Technical Theater students in their desire to learn about, create, and execute theatrical productions. --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Subject: Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List From: Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 12:02:20 -0400 Bless you, your good Karma index just went thru the roof. Marty Petlock Technical Facilities Manager Van Wezel P.A.H. Sarasota, FL. --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 17:13:58 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List On Mon, 10 May 2004, Pat Kight wrote: > As a regular in a Usenet-based forum that also has a Web interface, I'd > only caution that the latter can attract a lot of drive-by postings, > both on-topic and otherwise, and the level of discourse tends to decline > accordingly. If the list goes Web-based, I'd strongly suggest requiring > registration and a login-password scheme to to discourage casual > google-hoppers. Moderation is also a good idea but it's a huge amount of > work for the person who volunteers to moderate. Absolutely... > Truthfully, even though I'm a Webgeek in my day job, I probably wouldn't > keep up with the list on a Web forum, because I wouldn't *have* to. ditto... Charlie --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 12:23:05 -0400 From: ish [at] twcny.rr.com Subject: (not craft) Director's Gift Glad to see the list back up, it has been invaluable to me over the years... Off topic question, 10yrs ago, I began giving small silver plated director's chairs with the show name/date engraved on them as director gifts for shows I was in, used to get them at Pier 1 Imports. They no longer carry them, nor do many other places. We are closing on Deadwood Dick this weekend, and I'm in charge of hte cast gift again, and really want to find one of these, has anybody seen'em? THANKS! Jeffrey Isherwood Rome Community Theater, Rome NY http://www.romecommunitytheater.org Where Everybody's a STAR! --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 09:26:32 -0700 Subject: Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List From: Richard Niederberg Charlie, have made sure that the re-launch has been cross-posted to the other theatrical sound and automation listserves that you participate in? /s/ Richard ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 09:37:23 -0700 Subject: Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List From: Richard Niederberg I concur. I would much rather just receive and post messages without going on-line any more than the routine automatic checking of e-mail. /s/ Richard > I probably wouldn't keep up with the list on a > Web forum, because I wouldn't *have* to. > Pat Kight ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 17:53:18 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List On Mon, 10 May 2004, Richard Niederberg wrote: > Charlie, have made sure that the re-launch has been cross-posted to the > other theatrical sound and automation listserves that you participate in? > /s/ Richard I would be pleased to! What is the correct web site for the list now? Charlie --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 17:55:01 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List I will use this url: http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ Charlie On Mon, 10 May 2004, Richard Niederberg wrote: > For info on subscribing, unsubscribing, and suspending > your list subscription, go to the Stagecraft web site at: > http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ > --------------------------------------------------- > > > Charlie, have made sure that the re-launch has been cross-posted to the > other theatrical sound and automation listserves that you participate in? > /s/ Richard > --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 13:14:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Boyd Ostroff Subject: Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List On Mon, 10 May 2004, Pat Kight wrote: > If the list goes Web-based, I'd strongly suggest requiring > registration and a login-password scheme Yes, that goes without saying. But anyone can browse, and that would probably recruit some new people that would never find us otherwise which would be good. You also need some active moderators to keep an eye on things and delete stuff that gets really out of hand. But in my own mind it's a closed case. With so many members there's a huge load on the list server and frankly it hasn't been reliable for the past few years. I really think the e-mail list model is no longer valid. At least, I for one have lost interest in it. Boyd Ostroff ooo Opera Company of Philadelphia Director of Design & Technology ooooooo 1420 Locust St, Suite 210 ostroff [at] operaphilly.com ooooooo Philadelphia, PA 19102 http://tech.operaphilly.com ooo (215) 893-3600 x225 --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 07:40:57 -1000 Subject: Re: joining foam From: Shell Dalzell I have been very pleased with the Polyurethane glues. Gorrila Grip is the expensive one but there are others. Minimum gaps, maximum strength, does not require a press fit, does not need to "air dry", dampen one side and it goes off in about 30 to 45 minutes. Aloha, Shell PS: Thanks Noah for getting the list back up. > For info on subscribing, unsubscribing, and suspending > your list subscription, go to the Stagecraft web site at: > http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ > --------------------------------------------------- > > > Hey all - glad we're back! > > Does anyone know of a good way to join panels of Dow insulation foam ("blue > board")? I work with this stuff a lot but I have yet to find a satisfactory > adhesive or hardware solution. Panels must join edge-to-edge, face-to-face, > and edge-to-face. > > Cheers, > -- r. > > Randy "looking for work in the Seattle/Portland area" Storms > rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu > > > --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- From: Noah Price Subject: Web list (was Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 10:46:25 -0700 On May 10, 2004, at 7:49 AM, Boyd Ostroff wrote: > I would really be in favor of migrating to a web based interface. Hi Boyd and others, I'm happy to provide a proper web interface to allow people to read the list that way if they prefer. I've looked at vBulletin and phpBB and welcome any other suggestions. I would be interested in providing a web-based alternative, but not replacing email as the primary mechanism for the list. The best approach from my point of view, for those web programmers out there, would be a threaded browser which uses IMAP for message storage. That would integrate perfectly with the current list. But I'm open to any suggestions. Some have also been interested in a Newsreader interface, and I've had an NNTP interface available on a trial basis in the past (note: this does *not* mean making the Stagecraft list into a newsgroup, it just means you can use your new reader to read the list!). Anyone can also write to me off-list at stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net if you feel you'll be getting off topic. Thanks, Noah -- | Noah Price | http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ | | Stagecraft Mailing List | Web issues: stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net | | Web site administrator | Personal: noah [at] theprices.net | --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Subject: Re: Web list (was Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List) Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 13:08:34 -0500 From: "Steven Haworth" Don't know what software they're using, but I read another list on the = web and it works pretty well (until the traffic gets too high). Check = this site: http://www.ngdiscussion.net/cgi-bin/NGDFcook.pl - Steven www.stagelights.info >I'm happy to provide a proper web interface to allow people to read the = >list that way if they prefer. I've looked at vBulletin and phpBB and=20 >welcome any other suggestions. --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 12:40:06 -0600 From: CB Subject: Web based list >I suggest that we at least CONSIDER such an option.... Consider it considered, at least on this front. I like the digest, and hate the web-based option. I'd probably go somewhere else if it were change4d to a web format permanently. Hey, if we encouraged folk to use proper ettiquette, (like trimming your replies, etc.) the e-mail based list would be far less clumsy. The fact that we don't say anything when it happens translates to acceptance. Hey, Noah! coulda make it a three strikes and you have to re-subscribe? How about third re-subscription and you have to get permission? Third permission request and you have to get a vote from the list? Shoot. Now who sounds like the new regime... See Y'all in a coupla weeks, I'm off to the airport! Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 13:20:20 -0500 From: Mike Brubaker Subject: Re: Web list (was Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List) Another one to look at is this one: http://bbs.trailersailor.com/forums/index.html At 01:08 PM 5/10/2004, you wrote: >Don't know what software they're using, but I read another list on the web >and it works pretty well (until the traffic gets too high). Check this site: > http://www.ngdiscussion.net/cgi-bin/NGDFcook.pl --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 10:51:24 -0800 From: Chanter Subject: Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List Yeehaawww.... Thank goodness it's still a possible reality. Jeff Kanyuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Noah Price" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 11:53 PM Subject: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List > Hello everyone! > > As we approach 6 weeks without the Stagecraft list, more and more > people are clammering for the return of the list. While waiting for > Steve to have time to return, I'm doing my best to restore the list. > You can treat this as a continuation of the very same list. > > I know Steve had been dealing with problems with his ISP, and was > working with them to try to fix his connection. When I last heard from > Steve several weeks ago, he had recently welcomed a new daughter. > Congratulations Steve and family! Between that and his new job, he has > many demands which have kept him from responding to our email. I'm sure > we'll hear from him soon! > (((( BIG SNIP )))) > Please contact me if you have any questions or concerns. > > Thanks, > > Noah > > -- > | Noah Price | http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ | > | Stagecraft Mailing List | Web issues: stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net | > | Web site administrator | Personal: noah [at] theprices.net | > --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 11:47:40 -0700 Subject: Jamming inside Theatres From: Richard Niederberg According to the media, the government has announced that it will be jamming cellphone frequencies in places of public assembly such as the airport, Rose Bowl, and other locations, for security purposes. If 'they' can do it, why can't we, so our shows are uninterrupted? /s/ Richard ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- From: "Storms, Randy" Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 11:58:04 -0700 I don't get it - how would jamming cell phones make a venue more secure...? - r. Randy Storms rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu -----Original Message----- From: Richard Niederberg [mailto:ladesigners [at] juno.com] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 11:48 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Jamming inside Theatres For info on subscribing, unsubscribing, and suspending your list subscription, go to the Stagecraft web site at: http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ --------------------------------------------------- According to the media, the government has announced that it will be jamming cellphone frequencies in places of public assembly such as the airport, Rose Bowl, and other locations, for security purposes. If 'they' can do it, why can't we, so our shows are uninterrupted? /s/ Richard ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- From: "Chad Croteau" Subject: Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 14:57:23 -0400 Me third. I'm a fan of the mail-based list. I haven't had many pleasant bbs experiences. Chad I concur. I would much rather just receive and post messages without going on-line any more than the routine automatic checking of e-mail. /s/ Richard --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 14:59:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Boyd Ostroff Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres On Mon, 10 May 2004, Storms, Randy wrote: > I don't get it - how would jamming cell phones make a venue more secure...? Just guessing... there was a lot of discussion about Al Quaeda using cellphones to detonate bombs awhile ago... Boyd Ostroff ooo Opera Company of Philadelphia Director of Design & Technology ooooooo 1420 Locust St, Suite 210 ostroff [at] operaphilly.com ooooooo Philadelphia, PA 19102 http://tech.operaphilly.com ooo (215) 893-3600 x225 --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- From: "Chad Croteau" Subject: Thanks Noah! Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 14:59:48 -0400 Just dropping a quick line to add my voice to the miriad already heard in thanking Noah for bringing the list back to life. Also, a big thank you to Steve for having kept it going for so long and for working so hard to revive it each time it flatlined. Three cheers to the both of you! Chad --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 15:00:50 -0400 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres "Storms, Randy" wrote: > > --------------------------------------------------- > > I don't get it - how would jamming cell phones make a venue more secure...? > - r. It makes it more difficult for miscreants to coordinate their activities is their theory. Because there was never any terrorist activity before cellphones existed... :-} Steve L. -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- From: "Matt Breton" Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 19:13:42 +0000 >I don't get it - how would jamming cell phones make a venue more secure...? Because it prevents irate audience members from turning terrorist when the cellphone two seats over from them goes off in the middle of the soprano's aria. Matthew Breton Technical Director Green Street Studios _________________________________________________________________ Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=hotmail/es2&ST=1/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/ --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 12:13:50 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres At 11:59 AM 5/10/2004, you wrote: >On Mon, 10 May 2004, Storms, Randy wrote: > > > I don't get it - how would jamming cell phones make a venue more secure...? > >Just guessing... there was a lot of discussion about Al Quaeda using >cellphones to detonate bombs awhile ago... I was recently in DC and had to stop for our President to drive by (about 100 feet in front of us). While we were stopped, a helicopter that was circling flew over the car and my GPS beeped and lost all satellites. I didn't think to check my cell phone, but I'd say they're trying to block every way possible for anyone to do anything (except, of course, guns, which you can still buy all you want of). ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 15:14:48 -0400 Subject: Boyd's thoughts on lists From: Herrick Boyd, Noah and I had briefly discussed something similar. I'm on a few message boards for various things. The one's i've seen don't seem to archive very well and one of our greatest assets is the archive. However I also would like to look into a permanently existing live chat room for list members. something that the crazier members could keep a window open on their desktop and if someone has an urgent question like ("what is the key for in an obsession?" or "Why do my cues not record?") they can get even faster advice or opinions. This could possibly/occasionally be moderated or not... I've recently begun working with my assistants via AOL IM chat and I have to say it's amazingly convenient (I still hate AOL). I've even dealt with a few lighting vendors that way and it's faster than picking up a phone or sending e-mail. Basically lets start thinking about ideas to grow the "list" and evolve it into something even better. All the time keeping that homey sort of feel. -H On Monday, May 10, 2004, at 10:49 America/New_York, Boyd Ostroff wrote: > would really be in favor of migrating to a web based interface. > Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 15:24:47 -0400 From: Dave Bowman Organization: Syracuse Stage/SU Drama Subject: Job(s) Posting Hey Gang! Boy am I glad this is back. A big thank you to Noah and congratulations to Steve on the new arrival..... I've been asked (ok, it was over a month ago, but I've been waiting for the list to come back) to post the following position announcement. I'll be happy to answer questions if I can (or get you the answers), but I can only really speak to the Electrics Apprentice position..... dave B. ++++++ Syracuse Stage, a leading LORT theatre affiliated with Syracuse University, is accepting resumes for the following positions for our 04-05 season. Most positions start in mid-late August: Assistant Scenic Artist: Responsibilities include assisting Resident Charge Artist in execution of stage productions, shop maintenance and serving as liaison to the University's drama department production/artistic teams. Must have strong organizational and communication skills, work well with students, and possess a working knowledge of scenic painting techniques and tools. Applicants MUST include 2-4 images of their work. Carpenters: Successful candidates will have several years experience in professional theatre. Good theatrical carpentry skills required, rigging and welding experience a plus. Costume Craftsperson/Shopper: Responsibilities include all manner of costume crafts including millinery, fabric modification, and footwear. Shopper duties include shopping with designers, and purchasing general shop supplies. Costume Stitchers: Successful candidates will have several years experience in professional theatre. Production Apprentices: Stage Carpentry (running), Sound (running), Costumes (wardrobe/shop), Electrics (running), and Stage Management (running). An excellent opportunity to work closely with seasoned professionals. Props Carpenter Successful candidates will have several years experience in professional theatre, good theatrical carpentry skills, furniture construction and repair skills, and prop construction skills. All candidates must be able to manage time well and work effectively with students and professionals in a fast paced environment. Send cover letter, resume, and recommendations to Don Buschmann, Syracuse Stage, 820 East Genesee Street, Syracuse, NY 13210. E-mail: dgbuschm [at] syr.edu. Syracuse Stage encourages women and people of color to apply. EOE. -- David M. Bowman Syracuse Stage / SU Drama Master Electrician / Adj. Professor dmbowman [at] syr.edu --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- From: "Paul Schreiner" Subject: Re: Boyd's thoughts on lists Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 15:28:05 -0400 > However I also would like to look into a permanently existing > live chat room for list members. something that the crazier > members could keep a window open on their desktop Ooh! This sounds like a cool idea! > I've recently begun working with my assistants via AOL IM > chat and I have to say it's amazingly convenient (I still > hate AOL). Yahoo Messenger isn't bad, especially if you go to the trouble (and small expense) of getting one of those add-on programs (like Y!Tunnel) that help protect you from boot codes and crap like that. But for my money (which these days isn't much)...well, see my sig! :) Paul Schreiner Technical Director, Longwood University Theatre 434.395.2250 ICQ# 2269284 --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 15:57:00 -0400 From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Subject: Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List Noah - YOU ROCK!!!! Hi to everyone whom I've missed! (That includes you, Frank!) Kristi DIQ with Mary Kay! http://www.marykay.com/kross-clausen --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- From: "Sandra Hunter" Subject: Re: **SPAM****SPAM****SPAM** Re: Jamming inside Theatres Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 14:58:09 -0500 Kind of unnerving when you really think about it. Is it another way to prevent us from communicating with each other as well?=20 Just a flower child thinking out loud....... Sandra -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Storms, Randy Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 1:58 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: **SPAM****SPAM****SPAM** Re: Jamming inside Theatres For info on subscribing, unsubscribing, and suspending your list subscription, go to the Stagecraft web site at: http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ --------------------------------------------------- I don't get it - how would jamming cell phones make a venue more = secure...? - r. Randy Storms rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu -----Original Message----- From: Richard Niederberg [mailto:ladesigners [at] juno.com] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 11:48 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Jamming inside Theatres For info on subscribing, unsubscribing, and suspending your list subscription, go to the Stagecraft web site at: http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ --------------------------------------------------- According to the media, the government has announced that it = will be jamming cellphone frequencies in places of public assembly such as the airport, Rose Bowl, and other locations, for security purposes. If = 'they' can do it, why can't we, so our shows are uninterrupted? /s/ Richard ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the = Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign = up today! --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 16:09:00 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres At 11:47 AM -0700 5/10/04, Richard Niederberg wrote: > According to the media, the government has announced that it will > be jamming cellphone frequencies in places of public assembly such as the > airport, Rose Bowl, and other locations, for security purposes. If 'they' > can do it, why can't we, so our shows are uninterrupted? 'Cuz "we" aren't the Gummint... It's that Homeland Insecurity Act at work. -- Dave Vick, IATSE #274 Head Electrician, The Wharton Center for Performing Arts at Michigan State University Carpe Per Diem --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 13:12:26 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Spam bucket Warning to those of use with spam filters, I noticed about half the new postings wound up in my spam folder. I've reconfigured my filter so it SHOULD work ok now (in theory). ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 15:20:26 -0500 From: "Sarah Clausen" Ah, jamming cell phone frequencies at the airport.... This is either a) very good because it will keep the noisy jerk in the = chair behind me from sharing his personal business with me and all = others in the gate waiting area (how he always knows to sit behind me, = I'll never know...) or b) going to cause such an outcry from the = business traveling public that it will quickly be returned to normal, = non-jammed status quo.... I can't wait to find out which way it will go! Sarah -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Rigger Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 3:09 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres For info on subscribing, unsubscribing, and suspending your list subscription, go to the Stagecraft web site at: http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ --------------------------------------------------- At 11:47 AM -0700 5/10/04, Richard Niederberg wrote: > According to the media, the government has announced that it will > be jamming cellphone frequencies in places of public assembly such as = the > airport, Rose Bowl, and other locations, for security purposes. If = 'they' > can do it, why can't we, so our shows are uninterrupted? 'Cuz "we" aren't the Gummint... It's that Homeland Insecurity Act at work. --=20 Dave Vick, IATSE #274 Head Electrician, The Wharton Center for Performing Arts at Michigan State University Carpe Per Diem --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 16:25:03 -0400 From: Howard Ires Subject: Re: Web list (was Re: Reviving the Stagecraft Mailing List) i do believe that web archives are a built-in feature of the CommuniGate Pro listserver (which seems to be running the new list). you just have to enable the feature somewhere in the administrative controls. ----------------howie Noah Price wrote: > For info on subscribing, unsubscribing, and suspending > your list subscription, go to the Stagecraft web site at: > http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ > --------------------------------------------------- > > > On May 10, 2004, at 7:49 AM, Boyd Ostroff wrote: > >> I would really be in favor of migrating to a web based interface. > > > Hi Boyd and others, > > I'm happy to provide a proper web interface to allow people to read the > list that way if they prefer. I've looked at vBulletin and phpBB and > welcome any other suggestions. I would be interested in providing a > web-based alternative, but not replacing email as the primary mechanism > for the list. > > The best approach from my point of view, for those web programmers out > there, would be a threaded browser which uses IMAP for message storage. > That would integrate perfectly with the current list. But I'm open to > any suggestions. > > Some have also been interested in a Newsreader interface, and I've had > an NNTP interface available on a trial basis in the past (note: this > does *not* mean making the Stagecraft list into a newsgroup, it just > means you can use your new reader to read the list!). > > Anyone can also write to me off-list at stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net if > you feel you'll be getting off topic. > > Thanks, > > Noah > -- ------------------------Howard Ires Hill Interactive hi [at] hillinteractive.net phone - 802-874-7211 --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_- From: Subject: Re: (not craft) Director's Gift Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 16:52:10 -0400 > Off topic question, 10yrs ago, I began giving small silver plated director's chairs with the show name/date engraved on them as director gifts for shows I was in, My buddy runs a business and I typed in "directors chair" into his site and found something like you are looking for. (My browser wouldn't load the pics so I can't be sure) so try http://crcimprinting.com/ items 1 and 2 sound nice but he is checking on them. Items 4,5, and 6 look kind of cute. Greg Bierly Hempfield HS --------------------------------------------------------_338320464_--- End of Stagecraft Digest #2 ***************************