Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.1.8 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #4 Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 03:01:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline For info on subscribing, unsubscribing, and suspending your list subscription, go to the Stagecraft web site at: http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #4 1. Re: Jamming inside Theatres by "Scheu Consulting Services" 2. Speaking of instructions.... by 3. Thanks by "Dougherty, Jim" 4. Re: Speaking of instructions.... by Charlie Richmond 5. Re: Speaking of instructions.... by Rigger 6. Re: Jamming inside Theatres by Rigger 7. Re: Speaking of instructions.... by seanrmc [at] earthlink.net 8. Re: Jamming inside Theatres by b Ricie 9. Re: Jamming inside Theatres by Andy Ciddor 10. Re: Jamming inside Theatres by "Storms, Randy" 11. Re: Speaking of instructions.... by Richard Niederberg 12. Re: Jamming inside Theatres by Jerry Durand 13. Re: Speaking of instructions.... by Noah Price 14. Re: Jamming inside Theatres by "Paul Schreiner" 15. Re: Jamming inside Theatres by "Paul Schreiner" 16. Re: Jamming inside Theatres by Andy Ciddor 17. Re: Jamming inside Theatres by "Paul Schreiner" 18. Re: Jamming inside Theatres by Jerry Durand 19. Re: Speaking of instructions.... by Mike Brubaker 20. Re: Speaking of instructions.... by Charlie Richmond 21. Re: Thanks by 22. Re: Jamming inside Theatres by James Gillen Kosmatka 23. DesignCAD by Luis Ramirez 24. Re: Jamming inside Theatres by "Randy B." 25. Re: Jamming inside Theatres by "Randy B." 26. Re: DesignCAD by "Booth, Dennis" 27. Les Miz/Opera Spots by June Abernathy 28. Re: Jamming inside Theatres by Jerry Durand 29. Re: Jamming inside Theatres by Wood Chip-P26398 30. Re: Speaking of instructions.... by Rigger 31. Re: Les Mis/ Opera spots by Stephen Litterst 32. Re: Jamming inside Theatres by Richard Niederberg 33. Re: Jamming inside Theatres by Richard Niederberg 34. Re: Jamming inside Theatres by Richard Niederberg 35. Re: Jamming inside Theatres by 36. Hullo and a question. by Anthony 37. by "Erika Smock" 38. Re: Jamming inside Theatres by Jerry Durand 39. Re: Jamming inside Theatres by Jerry Durand 40. Re: [Show-Control] Water Cooled Xenons by Jerry Durand 41. Re: [Show-Control] Water Cooled Xenons by Richard Niederberg 42. Re: Speaking of instructions.... by "Daryl Redmon" 43. Re: Jamming inside Theatres by MissWisc [at] aol.com 44. Re: Jamming inside Theatres by Stuart Wheaton 45. Re: Jamming inside Theatres by Stuart Wheaton 46. Re: Jamming inside Theatres by "Tony Deeming" 47. by "Erika Smock" 48. Re: Les Mis spots by "Mike Mallinson" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scheu Consulting Services" Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 08:47:23 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: I see this as a bogus issue. How an explosive device is detonated in unimportant. Timers, infrared, FM, you name it, are used. And then there's the time-honored suicide technique. Just strap it to yourself and push the button... The real issue is how do these devices get into places of public assembly in the first place. If a bomb goes off in the departure lounge of an airport, how did it get there? Security failure. Again, the technique of setting it off doesn't matter. So jamming cell phones (unless there is a specific threat) is useless and easily defeatable by those determined to wreak havoc. Peter Scheu Scheu Consulting Services www.scheuconsulting.com ------------------------------ From: Subject: Speaking of instructions.... Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 8:46:39 -0400 Message-Id: <20040511124639.HUDT330.fed1rmmtao01.cox.net [at] smtp.west.cox.net> And then it struck me. I wouldn't want to work with anyone doing anything that couldn't follow basic simple instructions. I'm going to guess that some isn't going to want a resume, and isn't going to hire for the gig he posted contact info (in detail) unless it was his contact info and the list's addy he posted. And I need more than two and a half hours of sleep to put up with stage folk who still prove that manners are declining in this day and age, and continue to post replies without caring to trim them. Miss Manners says, "Fie on you!" And I find it ironic that some of us are already starting to complain about how the third day of The List (AN) is going. It's true, if stagehands aren't bitching, they're dead! Or they're bitching about being dead! Chris Babbie OTRA Location Sound ------------------------------ Subject: Thanks Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 09:06:02 -0400 Message-ID: <3C0B8A669CB61042968C367F36A2BAEC4DDCA8 [at] bengal.middlebury.edu> From: "Dougherty, Jim" Thanks for Noah, and anyone else involved for getting the list back up. = It's a big help. The last messages I wanted to send prior to the Great Darkness were of = thanks, too. We did a production this spring with three video = projectors, and the timely conversation on Stagecraft about using = semi-defunct CD and DVD players as video dowsers was a huge help. We = set them up, with momentary contact switches wired in parallel with the = open/close button, and had quick and easy dowsers. The other options = floated here at the time included crew members in black, basically in = audience view, using pieces of cardboard - so believe me when I say I = appreciate the timely advice. - Jim Dougherty ATD, Middlebury College Theatre Department ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 14:10:25 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: Speaking of instructions.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: On Tue, 11 May 2004 psyd [at] cox.net wrote: > And I find it ironic that some of us are already starting to complain about > how the third day of The List (AN) is going. It's true, if stagehands aren't > bitching, they're dead! Or they're bitching about being dead! Here's my latest bitch: I'd like to see [Stagecraft] in the Subject line... ;-) Charlie ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 09:27:40 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Speaking of instructions.... At 8:46 AM -0400 5/11/04, wrote: > And then it struck me. I wouldn't want to work with anyone > doing anything that couldn't follow basic simple instructions. > I'm going to guess that some isn't going to want a resume, > and isn't going to hire for the gig he posted contact info > (in detail) unless it was his contact info and the list's > addy he posted. What is he blathering on about this time? Take a nap, Chris. -- Dave Vick, IATSE #274 Head Electrician, The Wharton Center for Performing Arts at Michigan State University Carpe Per Diem ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 09:29:05 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres At 8:47 AM -0400 5/11/04, Scheu Consulting Services wrote: > So jamming cell phones (unless there is a specific threat) > is useless and easily defeatable by those determined to wreak > havoc. And there you have the inherent weakness of the Homeland Insecurity Act, right in a nutshell. -- Dave Vick, IATSE #274 Head Electrician, The Wharton Center for Performing Arts at Michigan State University Carpe Per Diem ------------------------------ Message-ID: <9103565.1084283734424.JavaMail.root [at] bigbird.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 09:55:34 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: seanrmc [at] earthlink.net Subject: Re: Speaking of instructions.... X-Mailer: Earthlink Zoo Mail 1.0 >Here's my latest bitch: I'd like to see [Stagecraft] in the Subject line... ;-) > >Charlie I agree. This would also help with the "spam filtering issue" that some are having too. --Sean Sean R. McCarthy ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20040511140930.87669.qmail [at] web50610.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 07:09:30 -0700 (PDT) From: b Ricie Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres In-Reply-To: Perhaps a sign that says"Cell Phone jamming in operation in this theatre" would remove any liability. Just let em know on the way in that their cell phone won't work. ===== Brian Rice b_ricie [at] yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover ------------------------------ Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20040512002021.03a36ed8 [at] pop3.kilowatt.com.au> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 00:36:35 +1000 From: Andy Ciddor Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres In-Reply-To: At 15:35 11.05.2004, Richard Niederberg wrote: >I see no problem with cladding rooms in a similar manner to the way that >the control rooms adjacent to medical X-ray machines are clad. Passive >blockage of EMR is permitted; unlicensed transmissions on regulated >frequencies so as to jam other legally permitted transmissions are not. Brilliant idea, Richard. As most venues are pretty much RF dead spaces anyway, let's design them to be total Faraday cages. Earthed wire mesh (such as insect mesh) would be all that we need to embed in the walls or under the cladding. As the RF world is rapidly descending into a state of chaotic cacophony, having an RF isolated venue would allow the safe use of ANY frequency for talkback, radio mics, in-ear monitors, remote audio system tuning, wireless laptops (see current discussion in [Show Control], radio DMX, wireless lighting remotes, etc, etc. The venue next door could even re-use the same frequencies, with little risk cross talk. As the effective radiated power of the RF systems would be zero outside the venue, any channel at all could be used without need for permits from spectrum management authorities. And it would stop pager and cell phone calls as an incidental benefit :-) Andy PS Welcome back, Stagecraft!! I second Charlie's call for a [Stagecraft] tag in the header, it really simplifies training the your spam filter and spotting false negatives. ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ ~: Andy Ciddor aciddor [at] kilowatt.com.au :~ ~: The Kilowatt Company Telephone: +61 3 6229 1662 :~ ~: ABN 84 034 522 035 Facsimile: +61 3 6229 1662 :~ ~: Production | Technology | Communications Mobile: +61 (0)419 925 730 :~ ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Storms, Randy" Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 07:45:02 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) I've noticed this same phenomenon at the local Wal-Mart - step through the door, and suddenly you have zero reception. I never thought anything of it until I saw this listserv thread - now I wonder if the dark overlords of retail haven't deployed a jammer as part of some sinister plot... -- r. Randy Storms rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu --------------------------------------------------- >For some reason the original 1960's design of the Sydney Opera House >means that, once you step inside the building, cell reception is GONE! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 07:45:40 -0700 Subject: Re: Speaking of instructions.... Message-ID: <20040511.074640.2132.0.ladesigners [at] juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 From: Richard Niederberg So would I. /s/ Richard > I'd like to see [Stagecraft] in the Subject line. > Charlie ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.0.20040511075853.02e217f0 [at] localhost> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 07:59:23 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres In-Reply-To: References: At 10:35 PM 5/10/2004, you wrote: >Not exactly. >I see no problem with cladding rooms in a similar manner to the way that >the control rooms adjacent to medical X-ray machines are clad. Passive >blockage of EMR is permitted; unlicensed transmissions on regulated >frequencies so as to jam other legally permitted transmissions are not. Sorry, I meant active blocking. ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References:

Message-Id: <41DACA1E-A35D-11D8-8CAA-000A958ABBF8 [at] theprices.net> From: Noah Price Subject: Re: Speaking of instructions.... Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 08:09:53 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) On May 11, 2004, at 6:10 AM, Charlie Richmond wrote: > Here's my latest bitch: I'd like to see [Stagecraft] in the Subject > line... ;-) Well, we have a 15 year history without it... and mail programs have only gotten smarter :-) Does your mail program let you set up filters to highlight or file message? You can filter on the "Sender" header, which will be "stagecraft [at] theatrical.net". If you can't filter on Sender, the "To" field also works, though that will also catch messages sent to the list and cc'd to you. Noah -- | Noah Price | http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ | | Stagecraft Mailing List | Web issues: stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net | | Web site administrator | Personal: noah [at] theprices.net | ------------------------------ Message-Id: <200405111511.i4BFBX3j022216 [at] tshield.longwood.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 11:09:59 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: > As most venues are pretty much RF dead spaces anyway, let's > design them to be total Faraday cages. Earthed wire mesh > (such as insect mesh) would be all that we need to embed in > the walls or under the cladding. There's been a lot of discussion on this thread about "emergency personnel" and their (perceived) need for total accessibility (primarily) during performances, and how that may be one objection to all of this...but here's another side to that coin. When my wife and I first got a cell phone, the driving force behind it was the fact that she was pregnant at the time and she wasn't having an easy go of it. There were just enough complications that we were somewhat anxious when it came within a couple of weeks to the due date. My work requirements and schedule being what they are, there are numerous occasions when I'm the only person in the building and nowhere near my desk. If something had gone wrong, I would have been completely out of the loop until such time as I could check my voice mail; conversely, on those occasions, if I had somehow injured myself in a difficult location (or, for example, started having chest pains on the grid), how could I reach help? [Granted, working alone is not something I recommend, but there are certain wheels in that machine that are difficult if not impossible to grease...] What if someone working in the facility needs to have that sort of access for just this sort of reason? It would seem to me that passive signal blocking that can never be "turned off" is exactly what we DON'T need. Now, if we could get passive blocking of RF only during shows/rehearsals, that'd be great...perhaps a Faraday cage with a pair of antennae, one located outside the building connected (via a switch that could be thrown during shows) to a smaller one on the inside of the building? Paul Schreiner Technical Director, Longwood University Theatre 434.395.2250 ICQ# 2269284 ------------------------------ Message-Id: <200405111513.i4BFDs3j022653 [at] tshield.longwood.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 11:12:20 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: > I've noticed this same phenomenon at the local Wal-Mart - > step through the door, and suddenly you have zero reception. > I never thought anything of it until I saw this listserv > thread - now I wonder if the dark overlords of retail haven't > deployed a jammer as part of some sinister plot... Actually I notice that sort of thing in any large store like that. I know of a few grocery stores around here where, unless you're within about thirty feet of the front windows or doors, you have practically no chance of getting a signal, so I'd think it's a byproduct of the architecture alone (and an unintended one at that). Paul Schreiner Technical Director, Longwood University Theatre 434.395.2250 ICQ# 2269284 ------------------------------ Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20040512011542.03946e10 [at] pop3.kilowatt.com.au> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 01:18:54 +1000 From: Andy Ciddor Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres In-Reply-To: References: At 01:09 12.05.2004, Paul Schreiner wrote: >What if someone working in the facility needs to have that sort of access >for just this sort of reason? It would seem to me that passive signal >blocking that can never be "turned off" is exactly what we DON'T need. What about a simple cordless phone INSIDE the building, connected to your normal office/workshop/control room phone via a normal copper dial-up land line? The reception should be great as there will be no outside interference. Andy ------------------------------ Message-Id: <200405111528.i4BFS03j024724 [at] tshield.longwood.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 11:26:26 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: > What about a simple cordless phone INSIDE the building, > connected to your normal office/workshop/control room phone > via a normal copper dial-up land line? Y'know, that's something I hadn't thought of because of the way they have our office phones connected...it's all through the same jacks as our computers, so I've never really given any thought to just substituting phones or something like that. Maybe I'll have to check with IT for the particulars... Another reason I've missed this list...not enough people around to point out when I'm missing the obvious! :) Paul Schreiner Technical Director, Longwood University Theatre 434.395.2250 ICQ# 2269284 ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.0.20040511082723.02e242f0 [at] localhost> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 08:30:39 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres In-Reply-To: References: At 07:45 AM 5/11/2004, you wrote: >I've noticed this same phenomenon at the local Wal-Mart - step through the >door, and suddenly you have zero reception. I never thought anything of it >until I saw this listserv thread - now I wonder if the dark overlords of >retail haven't deployed a jammer as part of some sinister plot... Well, Walmart has just started testing it's "RFID on Everything" plan. The idea is to have every product tagged with a wireless ID/serial number so they can track it from the vendor to the door. A side benefit is they'll know when you walk IN the door wearing anything you bought there before. This will require a LOT of data flowing around the store. Since the tags are very low power and don't have the smarts to do much error correcting, they may very well decide to start making shielded stores. ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20040511102846.02b34998 [at] mail.insightbb.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 10:35:05 -0500 From: Mike Brubaker Subject: Re: Speaking of instructions.... In-Reply-To: References:

I have my Eudora filters set (first thing I did when I got that first message from Noah) to filter all messages with a recipient of "stagecraft [at] theatrical.net" to my "Stagecraft" mailbox...since I don't get any spam that is sent to that address, all of the messages there are just Stagecraft. And I can read them at leisure without having to sort them out of email that I HAVE to read. I, too, would like to say thank you. I've missed the list. The shakes went away after the first three weeks, but the compulsive clicking of the "Check Mail" button hasn't. Add to that the frustration of not getting anything good...it hasn't been pretty. Mike At 10:09 AM 5/11/2004, Noah Price wrote: >>Here's my latest bitch: I'd like to see [Stagecraft] in the Subject >>line... ;-) >Does your mail program let you set up filters to highlight or file >message? You can filter on the "Sender" header, which will be ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 16:39:29 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: Speaking of instructions.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References:

On Tue, 11 May 2004, Noah Price wrote: > Well, we have a 15 year history without it... and mail programs have > only gotten smarter :-) But I have complained about this every year ;-) And my mail program is quite dumb because I find that protects me from spam much better.... Is it too much to ask that a simple [Stagecraft] be added? Listserv programs have gotten smarter, too ;-) I ask the same thing of Jim Bay who runs theatre-sound on AOL (yikes!!!) and he has remained totally resistant to my requests as well. I don't really understand what the problem is and it's one of the reasons I quite like YahooGroups, on which I have 9 lists... Oh, well.... sigh.... Charlie ------------------------------ X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.12 (webedge20-101-197-20030912) From: Subject: Re: Thanks Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 12:28:08 -0400 Message-Id: <20040511162808.TNPK1534.de-fe01.dejazzd.com [at] de-fe01> > on Stagecraft about using semi-defunct CD and DVD players as video dowsers was a huge help. We set them up, with momentary contact switches wired in parallel with the open/close button, and had quick and easy dowsers. I was in on the above conversation also and wanted to thank all that came up with dowser ideas. We ran 6 projectors for our last production and had all six dowsed from four switches with cd-rom drives. Other than the delay opening they worked flawlessley. Everyone admired our ingenuity. I of course had to credit the list. Thanks all Greg Bierly Hempfield HS ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20040511163904.13882.qmail [at] web42006.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 09:39:04 -0700 (PDT) From: James Gillen Kosmatka Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres In-Reply-To: Yeah, we have a wireless phone system through the top two floors of our office building. Now I don't have to be at my desk to take or make calls, I just walk around with the belt back and head set. The only downside is that I look like I work at the Gap. -james --- Paul Schreiner wrote: > > What about a simple cordless phone INSIDE the > > building, ===== -james gillen kosmatka student sound designer audio mixologist cleveland state university http://www.geocities.com/gillenkosmatka/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 12:15:32 -0500 From: Luis Ramirez Subject: DesignCAD Message-id: <000701c4377b$91401e60$50d06090 [at] sfasu.edu> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Has anyone worked with a software program called DesignCAD 3D MAX? Someone recommended this software, but I can't find any substantial reviews. We already use VectorWorks for class instruction and production. If you have experience with DesignCAD, please share your thoughts. Luis Ramirez Associate Professor of Theatre Stephen F. Austin State University P.O. Box 9090, SFA Station Nacogdoches, TX 75962-9090 Phone: 936-468-1112 Email: lramirez [at] sfasu.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001301c4377d$c22c7670$96c64898 [at] D10SKY11> From: "Randy B." References:

Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 12:31:13 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 >>A side benefit is they'll know when you walk IN the door wearing anything you bought there before. Not reality, they are tagging the package, very much like the packing of certain items are Tagged with anti-thief ID tags today From: "Jerry Durand" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 10:30 AM Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres > For info on subscribing, unsubscribing, and suspending > your list subscription, go to the Stagecraft web site at: > http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ > --------------------------------------------------- > > > At 07:45 AM 5/11/2004, you wrote: > >I've noticed this same phenomenon at the local Wal-Mart - step through the > >door, and suddenly you have zero reception. I never thought anything of it > >until I saw this listserv thread - now I wonder if the dark overlords of > >retail haven't deployed a jammer as part of some sinister plot... > > > > Well, Walmart has just started testing it's "RFID on Everything" plan. The > idea is to have every product tagged with a wireless ID/serial number so > they can track it from the vendor to the door. A side benefit is they'll > know when you walk IN the door wearing anything you bought there before. > > This will require a LOT of data flowing around the store. Since the tags > are very low power and don't have the smarts to do much error correcting, > they may very well decide to start making shielded stores. > > > ---------- > Jerry Durand > Durand Interstellar, Inc. > 219 Oak Wood Way > Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA > tel: +1 408 356-3886 > fax: +1 408 356-4659 > web: www.interstellar.com > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001d01c4377e$02ccf510$96c64898 [at] D10SKY11> From: "Randy B." References: Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 12:33:02 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 Most BIG BOX stores like Wal*mart, etc are a metal frame with a sheet metal roof, lots of metal (re-bar) in the walls. works well to shield RF. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Schreiner" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 10:12 AM Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres > For info on subscribing, unsubscribing, and suspending > your list subscription, go to the Stagecraft web site at: > http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > I've noticed this same phenomenon at the local Wal-Mart - > > step through the door, and suddenly you have zero reception. > > I never thought anything of it until I saw this listserv > > thread - now I wonder if the dark overlords of retail haven't > > deployed a jammer as part of some sinister plot... > > Actually I notice that sort of thing in any large store like that. I know > of a few grocery stores around here where, unless you're within about thirty > feet of the front windows or doors, you have practically no chance of > getting a signal, so I'd think it's a byproduct of the architecture alone > (and an unintended one at that). > > Paul Schreiner > Technical Director, Longwood University Theatre > 434.395.2250 > ICQ# 2269284 > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <659CC0547BC6D3118B9200508BC270EA035BB58D [at] ncsamail.ncarts.edu> From: "Booth, Dennis" Subject: Re: DesignCAD Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 13:23:15 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) We have used DesignCAD here at NCSA in the past. Our conversion to AutoCAD is pretty much complete at this point, however. DesignCAD is a very viable and robust raster drafting program that several years ago was way ahead of AutoCAD in providing an easy user interface, and costs much less. Drawings created in DesignCAD are easily interchanged with AutoCAD and VectorWorks users via .dxf files. Dennis Gill Booth, Technical Director North Carolina School of the Arts School of Design and Production 1553 South Main Street PO Box 12189 Winston-Salem, NC 27117-2189 * Voice: (336)770-3232 x127 * FAX: (336)770-3213 * Email: boothd [at] ncarts.edu * D&P URL: http://www.ncarts.edu/ncsaprod/designandproduction/ * Faculty URL: http://faculty.ncarts.edu/dandp/booth/ -----Original Message----- From: Luis Ramirez [mailto:lramirez [at] sfasu.edu] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 1:16 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: DesignCAD For info on subscribing, unsubscribing, and suspending your list subscription, go to the Stagecraft web site at: http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ --------------------------------------------------- Has anyone worked with a software program called DesignCAD 3D MAX? Someone recommended this software, but I can't find any substantial reviews. We already use VectorWorks for class instruction and production. If you have experience with DesignCAD, please share your thoughts. Luis Ramirez Associate Professor of Theatre Stephen F. Austin State University P.O. Box 9090, SFA Station Nacogdoches, TX 75962-9090 Phone: 936-468-1112 Email: lramirez [at] sfasu.edu ---------------------------------------------- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content and is believed to be clean. ---------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20040511174800.18446.qmail [at] web14102.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 10:48:00 -0700 (PDT) From: June Abernathy Subject: Les Miz/Opera Spots Hey there! Glad the list is back up, although coming back from vacation yesterday to encounter an inbox with 168 messages, most of them Stagecraft, was daunting, to say the least. Here's hoping the Digest command kicks in soon. Anyway, yes, on Les Miz, we used (and, AFAIK, they still use) Reich & Vogel beam projectors. I *think* they were 10". We used a 500w/24v lamp, which was silvered on the crown. It screwed in to a socket (like an "A" lamp). They were controlled by a separate variac transformer. We put a concentric ring baffle on the front of the lights to be a slight control on the edge. The lights are very soft, and very amber in color. On Les Miz, we only used one color - a L201 blue - and in truth, that basically had the effect of taking the natural amber out of the light for a colder white look. As I understand it, they don't make them anymore. We had trouble getting parts - even getting lamps. Strand was making a 10" beam projector for a while that I think they were using on the CATS tour. I've heard these are also no longer made and hard to come by. We used Reich & Vogels for our FOH spots too, when the throw allowed. The RV's were only good for a throw less than 65' or 70'. For longer throws, we carried 400w Lycian Starklights, and when they finally fell apart, Juliat Margo units. Still, we had to mimic the look of the RV's with these, which meant putting in a frost (R132, or even R114) at all times, and using an amber to match the RV "no color" look, and a different blue to match the RV blue look. If you can't find suitable Beam Projectors, you might try this. Also, you can't control the iris on an RV, and if that presents a problem for you, you might try a small spot with heavy frost. (We do this for our Lion King truss spots - Lycian Starklights with a variety of different frost looks.) Hope this helps - June Abernathy IATSE #321 (Tampa, FL) Front Light Electrician The Lion King National Tour (Gazelle) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.0.20040511104126.00ab9cb8 [at] localhost> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 10:48:39 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres In-Reply-To: References:

At 10:31 AM 5/11/2004, you wrote: > >>A side benefit is they'll know when you walk IN the door wearing anything >you bought there before. > > >Not reality, they are tagging the package, very much like the packing of >certain items are Tagged with anti-thief ID tags today TODAY they are tagging packages. The plan is to eventually imbed the sensors IN products to assist with returns and other tracking. The latest article I read (I think this one was in Info World, they have been showing up in several engineering magazines) gave designer clothes as an example of an early use. It also pointed out that it would be trivial to track you by name if you ever bought any tagged item with a credit or discount card. This information could/WOULD be sold and they gave an example of you buying a book on card counting and then finding out that you can't enter a casino the next day. ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <6728517EECE7D511981B00D0B78290310ACCF940 [at] az33exm27.corp.mot.com> From: Wood Chip-P26398 Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 11:11:53 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) These are called repeaters and are pretty cheap. A passive Faraday cage with a switchable outside to inside repeater antenna seems to be a good answer for having good cell phone reception during rehearsals and setup, but not during shows. http://www.mobilecomms-technology.com/contractors/inbuilding/cell_antenna/ -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Paul Schreiner Now, if we could get passive blocking of RF only during shows/rehearsals, that'd be great...perhaps a Faraday cage with a pair of antennae, one located outside the building connected (via a switch that could be thrown during shows) to a smaller one on the inside of the building? ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 15:49:19 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Speaking of instructions.... At 8:09 AM -0700 5/11/04, Noah Price wrote: > You can filter on the "Sender" header, which > will be "stagecraft [at] theatrical.net". Ayup... S'how I do it here. Works like the proverbial charm. -- Dave Vick, IATSE #274 Head Electrician, The Wharton Center for Performing Arts at Michigan State University Carpe Per Diem ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 16:29:11 -0400 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: Les Mis/ Opera spots Message-id: X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.17 (built Jun 23 2003) > >What were they? Beam projectors? or Fresnels? What options are > out > >there for a smaller theater that wants the same feel. To answer the second question... I have a couple of Strand 1K Beamlights that are pretty close to the R&V specs. Uses the same 24v lamp. 9.5 deg beam angle. Let me know if you're interested, Herrick. Steve Litterst slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 14:42:03 -0700 Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres Message-ID: <20040511.144352.2608.0.ladesigners [at] juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 From: Richard Niederberg This is the same technology which is used in Casinos, subways, high-end bomb shelters, and similar locations. /s/ Richard > These are called repeaters and are pretty cheap. A passive Faraday > cage with a switchable outside to inside repeater antenna seems to > be a good answer for having good cell phone reception during > rehearsals and setup, but not during shows. ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 14:42:41 -0700 Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres Message-ID: <20040511.144352.2608.1.ladesigners [at] juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 From: Richard Niederberg They can already do that. If you cellphone is on, even if it is not in use, its location can be tracked through the cellphone repeater inside the casino. /s/ Richard > It also pointed out that it would be trivial to track > you by name if you ever bought any tagged item > with a credit or discount card. This information > could/WOULD be sold and they gave an example > of you buying a book on card counting and then > finding out that you can't enter a casino the next day. > Jerry Durand ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 15:07:01 -0700 Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres Message-ID: <20040511.150716.2608.2.ladesigners [at] juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 From: Richard Niederberg Get used to it. Lawyers and others who wear business suits as workclothes have. I actually prefer to talk handsfree and wireless, as I am now. /s/ Richard > Now I don't have to be at my desk to take or > make calls, I just walk around with the belt back > and head set. The only downside is that I look like > I work at the Gap. > -james ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ From: Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 8:26:35 -0400 Message-Id: <20040511122635.HQBQ330.fed1rmmtao01.cox.net [at] smtp.west.cox.net> >Specifically, what if a doctor etc brought their cell phone into the >theatre (set to vibrate, of course) and missed a call which led to >someone dying? This is an extreme case but a possibility that sent our >University Counsel running around saying no no no. Well, since the doctor was instructed to leave his seat number and his cell phone at the box office, and if he were warned that the cell wouldn't receive in the house, I'd say the doctor in question would be the closest thing to a responsible party in the death of your theoretical. Any doctor that can't follow simple instructions doesn't need to be treating me, anyhow! Chris Babbie OTRA Location Sound ------------------------------ Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.2.20040512104356.016149b8 [at] firework.co.nz> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 10:48:47 +1200 From: Anthony Subject: Hullo and a question. Hullo List members, We run a firework business in New Zealand. We perform outdoor shows and do a lot of SFX on stage and for film. We also run bizarre hardware such as UV follow spots. Our question is: Not sure if this is the list to ask but here goes. We have some water cooled Xenons retrofitted in Military Searchlights, or will have when we solve the problem of circulating absolutely pure water and cooling it. The water has to be so pure it wont conduct appreciably at up to 60 kilovolts, the strike voltage. Has any one any experience of using thermally conductive fluids which are insulators for this purpose? If the fluid is flammable and the tube breaks we will have a fireball on our hands so flammability at 100 degrees C or so is of importance. Or is there another list to try? Kind Regards Anthony Lealand Firework Professionals Ltd New Zealand www.firework.co.nz ------------------------------ From: "Erika Smock" Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 17:08:08 -0600 Message-ID: Hello all, I'm constucting a turntable for a show and I was wondering if anyone could lend a hand on how? it has to be 18' in diamenter. All the help would be great. thank Erika Smock Technical Theatre Student _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee� Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.0.20040511170214.00b0b008 [at] localhost> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 17:03:14 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres In-Reply-To: References: At 11:11 AM 5/11/2004, you wrote: >These are called repeaters and are pretty cheap. A passive Faraday cage >with a switchable outside to inside repeater antenna seems to be a good >answer for having good cell phone reception during rehearsals and setup, >but not during shows. > >http://www.mobilecomms-technology.com/contractors/inbuilding/cell_antenna/ You could also leave the repeater on up until just before curtain and turn it on after the show's over. Cell phones just seem to not work during the show. :) ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.0.20040511170352.00b07fb0 [at] localhost> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 17:04:56 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres In-Reply-To: References: At 02:42 PM 5/11/2004, you wrote: >They can already do that. If you cellphone is on, even if it is not in >use, its location can be tracked through the cellphone repeater inside >the casino. >/s/ Richard Yes, IF Walmart knows your cell phone number. RFID ties your cell number to your credit card number to what you're wearing today to... ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.0.20040511171117.00b08a08 [at] localhost> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 17:11:24 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: [Show-Control] Water Cooled Xenons At 03:00 PM 5/11/2004, you wrote: >We have some water cooled Xenons retrofitted in Military Searchlights, or >will have when we solve the problem of circulating absolutely pure water >and cooling it. > >The water has to be so pure it wont conduct appreciably at up to >60 kilovolts, the strike voltage. > >Has any one any experience of using thermally conductive fluids which are >insulators for this purpose? I've worked on/built YAG lasers using water to cool the 3KW arc lamps. Fill with distilled water, recirculate with a pump. All stainless or plastic! Pass at least part of the water through a deionizing filter cartridge (see "Ion-Exchange Demineralizers" at www.mcmaster.com ). Your water will stay nice and clean as long as you remember to change the filter when needed. BTW, the arc lamps had a 28KV starting voltage and we never had a problem. ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 17:27:37 -0700 Subject: Re: [Show-Control] Water Cooled Xenons Message-ID: <20040511.172824.2608.6.ladesigners [at] juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 From: Richard Niederberg I have used dielectric fluids (without PCBs) distilled by a Shell Oil Company subsidiary, but it was not optically clear. It came in 55 gallon drums... /s/ Richard > Has any one any experience of using thermally conductive > fluids which are insulators for this purpose? ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001701c437bd$c6cb5ee0$0100a8c0 [at] DADS> From: "Daryl Redmon" References: Subject: Re: Speaking of instructions.... Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 18:09:29 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 I set up my message rules in outlook express as follows Apply this rule after the message arrives Where the message body contains 'stagecraft' move it to the stagecraft folder Daryl Subject: Re: Speaking of instructions.... > >Here's my latest bitch: I'd like to see [Stagecraft] in the Subject line... ;-) > > > >Charlie > > > I agree. This would also help with the "spam filtering issue" that some are having too. > > --Sean > > Sean R. McCarthy ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1ca.20957468.2dd2d7e1 [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 21:29:05 EDT Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres Cc: schreinerpd [at] longwood.edu X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 In a message dated 5/11/4 10:12:35 AM, schreinerpd [at] longwood.edu wrote: <> Friends ... I know we ALL end up in situations like this from time to time... but it's NOT SAFE! There should always be someone within earshot to scream to if you get hurt and can't move. [Insert mental picture of yourself stranded under some heavy object or being fried electrically.. add photo of EMTs arriving to find your dead body after it's lain there over the weekend. Get it????] As for needing access to your cell phone/pager... for years it was standard practice to leave your seat location with your baby-sitter/boss/spouse/other person who might need you, so that in an emergency, the usher can quietly come to your seat and get you. That should still be the case. If you're on the crew or working backstage in an area with no cell signal, there should still be a way to get a message to you quickly and without needing a note from your momma, finger prints, retinal scan, or the pin of the day from the men in black. Please play/work safely! The life you save may be mine or someone I care about! YOURS!!! :) Kristi Mary Kay Director In Qualification! http://www.marykay.com/kross-clausen ------------------------------ Message-ID: <40A17FB4.80407 [at] fuse.net> Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 21:36:52 -0400 From: Stuart Wheaton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres References: In-Reply-To: Paul Schreiner wrote: > What if someone working in the facility needs to have that sort of access > for just this sort of reason? It would seem to me that passive signal > blocking that can never be "turned off" is exactly what we DON'T need. > > Now, if we could get passive blocking of RF only during shows/rehearsals, > that'd be great...perhaps a Faraday cage with a pair of antennae, one > located outside the building connected (via a switch that could be thrown > during shows) to a smaller one on the inside of the building Cruise ships are essentially farady cages, to make mobile communications possible, hundreds of small repeaters are distributed around the ship, On the last job, in Germany, I had better cell signal in my inside, at the waterline, cabin than I do at home! I doubt that the fcc would require you to operate your repeater during the show, and you could even turn it on so people could check their messages at intermission. If you MUST be reached during the show, leave the phone with the house manager, or give people the theatre number. Stuart ------------------------------ Message-ID: <40A18356.8090207 [at] fuse.net> Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 21:52:22 -0400 From: Stuart Wheaton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres References: In-Reply-To: psyd [at] cox.net wrote: > >Specifically, what if a doctor etc brought their cell phone into the > >>theatre (set to vibrate, of course) and missed a call which led to >>someone dying? This is an extreme case but a possibility that sent our >>University Counsel running around saying no no no. I can see it.... Hospital: Call Doctor Smith, this guy's gonna die! Nurse: I tried Doctor Smith, no answer. H: Gee that's too bad, guess that's it for the patient... N: why don't we call another doctor? H: Do you mean to suggest that in any town big enough to have a theatre that blocks cell phones there would probably be more than one doctor? N: Any town that big will have lots of doctors! H: Call another doctor! N: Doctor Jones is on his way! H: Thank the gods, the patient is gonna LIVE! ------------------------------ Message-ID: <068e01c437ee$d3dce5f0$0a01a8c0 [at] Tony> From: "Tony Deeming" References: Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 08:00:36 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Stagecraft" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 2:29 AM Subject: Re: Jamming inside Theatres > For info on subscribing, unsubscribing, and suspending > your list subscription, go to the Stagecraft web site at: > http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ > --------------------------------------------------- > > > In a message dated 5/11/4 10:12:35 AM, schreinerpd [at] longwood.edu wrote: > < occasions when I'm the only person in the building>> > > Friends ... I know we ALL end up in situations like this from time to time... > but it's NOT SAFE! There should always be someone within earshot to scream to > if you get hurt and can't move. [Insert mental picture of yourself stranded > under some heavy object or being fried electrically.. add photo of EMTs > arriving to find your dead body after it's lain there over the weekend. Get it????] > > As for needing access to your cell phone/pager... for years it was standard > practice to leave your seat location with your baby-sitter/boss/spouse/other > person who might need you, so that in an emergency, the usher can quietly come > to your seat and get you. That should still be the case. If you're on the crew > or working backstage in an area with no cell signal, there should still be a > way to get a message to you quickly and without needing a note from your momma, > finger prints, retinal scan, or the pin of the day from the men in black. > > Please play/work safely! The life you save may be mine or someone I care > about! YOURS!!! :) > > Kristi Couldn't agree more! Somehow, if I think back, I can actually recall those days before we'd ever heard of cellphones and pagers....! Ynot ------------------------------ From: "Erika Smock" Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 01:07:11 -0600 Message-ID: Sorry all, I didn't give enough info on the turntable. It needs to beable to turn on stage with a diamenter of 18'. It's going to be motorize. I have used one but never had to construct how it had to be built. I do remember a little about the one that I used but any help would be wonderful. thanks erika _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with the new version of MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ From: "Mike Mallinson" Subject: Re: Les Mis spots Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 00:53:33 -0700 Message-ID: <000001c437f6$3d00c680$dd63fea9 [at] Fred> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 In-Reply-To: That fits my memory as well. Since I don't have the same fixtures, I have used fresnels for the same purpose a few times since, including a student production of Les Mis, and they have worked beautifully. The fixtures we used had rubberized levers on the back of the fixture for the flood/spot adjustment and were very effective for changing beam angle when necessary as well. Mike Mallinson From: "Fitch, Tracy" Subject: Re: Les Mis/ Opera spots Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 17:29:33 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Reich & Vogel beam projectors. I'm pretty danged sure. But if June Abernathy's on the new list she should be able to really confirm. They were her deal for a few years there. --Tracy Fitch TD, UNC Charlotte; LD, Everywhere Else > -----Original Message----- > From: Herrick [mailto:Herrick [at] hglightingdesign.com] > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 5:19 PM > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Les Mis/ Opera spots > > For info on subscribing, unsubscribing, and suspending > your list subscription, go to the Stagecraft web site at: > http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ > --------------------------------------------------- > > > wow it's so nice to have this back. we obviously have been saving > stuff up! > > I'm doing Glass Menagerie and the director and I want a soft elegant > backlight spot on Laura throughout the show. I want something that > feels like the spots used for Les Miserables. > > What were they? Beam projectors? or Fresnels? What options are out > there for a smaller theater that wants the same feel. > > _H > > Herrick Goldman > Lighting Designer, NYC > www.HGLightingDesign.com > > "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness > and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #4 ***************************