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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #7

 1. Re: OT: OT (was RE: Wal*Mart (Well off topic))
    by Dorian Kelly <dorian [at] essex.ac.uk>
 2. Re: AutoCad 3D plotting
    by "F. Randy deCelle" <drandolp [at] uiuc.edu>
 3. Snow bag help
    by <Jonathan [at] WillsLighting.com>
 4. Planning new scene shop
    by "Kevin Patrick" <patrick_kevin [at] colstate.edu>
 5. Re: OT: OT (was RE: Wal*Mart (Well off topic))
    by Herrick <Herrick [at] hglightingdesign.com>
 6. Re: OT: OT (was RE: Wal*Mart (Well off topic))
    by "Fred Schoening, Jr." <bigfred [at] mindspring.com>
 7. Re: OT: OT (was RE: Wal*Mart (Well off topic))
    by "Tony Deeming" <deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com>
 8. Re: Snow bag help
    by IAEG [at] aol.com
 9. Posting Ettiquette
    by "Rick Malone" <rickmalone [at] sbcglobal.net>
10. Re: Snow bag help
    by "Booth, Dennis" <boothd [at] ncarts.edu>
11. Re: OT (was RE: Wal*Mart (Well off topic))
    by "Paul Schreiner" <schreinerpd [at] longwood.edu>
12. Re: Neccesities
    by "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
13. Re: Neccesities
    by b Ricie <b_ricie [at] yahoo.com>
14. Re: Posting Ettiquette
    by "Stephen E. Rees" <Rees [at] fredonia.edu>
15. Re: Neccesities
    by Rigger <rigger [at] tds.net>
16. OSHA and Students
    by Ron Cargile <rcargile [at] uci.edu>
17. Re: OSHA and Students
    by "Jon Ares" <jonares [at] hevanet.com>
18. Re: Snow bag help
    by "Alf Sauve" <alf [at] sauve.org>
19. Re: OSHA knowing about wire rope ladders
    by "Karl G. Ruling" <kruling [at] esta.org>
20. Re: Snow bag help
    by IAEG [at] aol.com
21. Re: OT (was RE: Wal*Mart (Well off topic))
    by "Erika Smock" <billybobstorm [at] hotmail.com>
22. osha and students
    by Chuck Mitchell <chmitche [at] wisc.edu>
23. Re: osha and students
    by "Jon Ares" <jonares [at] hevanet.com>
24. Re: osha and students
    by Bsapsis [at] aol.com
25. Low Light/IR Sensitive Camera and Illuminator
    by Steve Boone <sboone [at] bgnet.bgsu.edu>
26. Re: Les Mis/ Opera spots
    by Brian Aldous <brian [at] tany.com>
27. AutoCad LT
    by Chip Haas <chaas [at] bsu.edu>
28. dance floor - help me find the info!
    by "Kevin Patrick" <patrick_kevin [at] colstate.edu>
29. Re: Low Light/IR Sensitive Camera and Illuminator
    by "Jeff Mabray" <jeff.mabray [at] cox.net>
30. Re: Les Mis/ Opera spots
    by Herrick <Herrick [at] hglightingdesign.com>
31. Re: Les Mis/ Opera spots
    by Herrick <Herrick [at] hglightingdesign.com>
32. Re: Les Mis/ Opera spots
    by Herrick <Herrick [at] hglightingdesign.com>
33. Re: Les Mis/ Opera spots sorry for multiple posts
    by Herrick <Herrick [at] hglightingdesign.com>
34. Re: AutoCad LT
    by "Daniel Hoffman" <nospam [at] softhome.net>
35. Re: AutoCad LT
    by "Erika Smock" <billybobstorm [at] hotmail.com>

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Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 11:48:12 +0100
From: Dorian Kelly <dorian [at] essex.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: OT: OT (was RE: Wal*Mart (Well off topic))


>Actually, I think I'm not alone when I say that part of what makes this
>list so fun is the fact that we don't just talk about theatre, we talk
>about other things that interest us, too.

Thats great, I like to do that too, reminiscence, bar room chat, production
meeting chit chat - wonderful, lets do it!    But please let it be vaugely
theatre related at least, no redneck stuff or politics. It killed other
lists, and attracted non-theatre people to add their rant.

Dorian



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From: "F. Randy deCelle" <drandolp [at] uiuc.edu>
Subject: Re: AutoCad 3D plotting
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 07:10:07 -0500
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Fred,

Yes, the Hide Plot in the MVIEW command will do a Hide on 3D objects
in a viewport so that you can plot it.  However, Michael was asking
about plotting a 3D Rendering, which, I think implies shading, not
just hiding lines.  Also, I believe with Rendering, you also imply the
coloring/shading of the surfaces of the object.

An example would be if there was a simple 3D cube drawn with blue
lines.  If I do a Hide Plot and plot the cube, I end up with a 3D
Hidden Wireframe with only the lines of the edges having color.  If I
Render the same thing to a file and print it, depending on lighting
setups, etc. I will get a 3D object showing blue surfaces on the cube
with variations because of shading, etc.

In order to get a rendering on the plot, let's say for a shaded 3D
isometric view of a complicated object, the only way I have found is
to render to a file and Insert Raster Image.  If the desire is to get
a 3D object with hidden lines removed, then a viewport with Hide Plot
turned on will do the trick.

Randy

_________________________________________________________________
F. Randy deCelle, Assistant Professor, Chair of Scenic Technology
Department of Theatre - University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign


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From: <Jonathan [at] WillsLighting.com>
Subject: Snow bag help
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 08:37:56 -0400
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Hello all,

 

First, as a lurker it is great to have the list back. I have missed it over
the past weeks.

 

Now my question is, can anyone help me make a snow bag, have plans or
general info about it. Or does anyone have one in the Southeast Tennessee
area that they would be willing to let me borrow/rent for a week for a dance
recital. Any comments, suggestions, or help is greatly appreciated.

 

 

Thank you,

 

Jonathan Wills

Wills Lighting and Stage

423.432.8082

www.WillsLighting.com

 



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From: "Kevin Patrick" <patrick_kevin [at] colstate.edu>
Subject: Planning new scene shop
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 08:43:04 -0400
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Listers,

I am laying out plans for a new scene shop/paint studio.  Can someone point
me to DXF blocks of typical shop equipment (almost any brand will do since
I'm just doing a rough layout and materials flow) and any data about work
area usage around those tools?  For example, room before and after a table
saw, drill press, whatever.  I can generate it all myself, of course, but a
good head start would be helpful.

Thanks,
\<
Kevin Patrick
Designer/TD/Asst Professor
Columbus State University
Theatre.colstate.edu 

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Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 08:49:09 -0400
Subject: Re: OT: OT (was RE: Wal*Mart (Well off topic))
From: Herrick <Herrick [at] hglightingdesign.com>
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(sarcasm mode on) Yeah you're right. Politics certainly has no bearing 
on any of us or what we do. (sarcasm mode off)

On Friday, May 14, 2004, at 06:48 America/New_York, Dorian Kelly wrote:

>
>
> Thats great, I like to do that too, reminiscence, bar room chat, 
> production
> meeting chit chat - wonderful, lets do it!    But please let it be 
> vaugely
> theatre related at least, no redneck stuff or politics. It killed other
> lists, and attracted non-theatre people to add their rant.
>
> Dorian
>
>

Don't worry Dorian we won't let any non theatre folks in. We scare them 
too much anyway.
but half these guys are Rednex.

>
>
Herrick Goldman
Lighting Designer, NYC
www.HGLightingDesign.com

"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and 
in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS


Herrick Goldman
Lighting Designer, NYC
www.HGLightingDesign.com

"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and 
in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS


Herrick Goldman
Lighting Designer, NYC
www.HGLightingDesign.com

"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and 
in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS


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Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 08:01:26 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: "Fred Schoening, Jr." <bigfred [at] mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: OT: OT (was RE: Wal*Mart (Well off topic))
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"...redneck stuff..."?!? What exactly do you mean by that? Perhaps it's a cultural 
difference, but here in the U.S. that can be a pretty inflammatory thing to say. 
"Redneck" is considered by many to be a slur. (Not quite on a par with, say, racial 
epithets, but it can still be quite insulting.) If you want to stay on topic, you're 
going to have to put a little more thought into what you say.

Fred

"Big Fred" Schoening
Technical Director
Dallas Theater Center
Dallas, Texas, USA

-----Original Message-----

Thats great, I like to do that too, reminiscence, bar room chat, production
meeting chit chat - wonderful, lets do it!    But please let it be vaugely
theatre related at least, no redneck stuff or politics. It killed other
lists, and attracted non-theatre people to add their rant.

Dorian




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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dorian Kelly" <dorian [at] essex.ac.uk>
To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: OT: OT (was RE: Wal*Mart (Well off topic))


> For info on subscribing, unsubscribing, and suspending
> your list subscription, go to the Stagecraft web site at:
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>
>
>
> >Actually, I think I'm not alone when I say that part of what makes this
> >list so fun is the fact that we don't just talk about theatre, we talk
> >about other things that interest us, too.
>
> Thats great, I like to do that too, reminiscence, bar room chat,
production
> meeting chit chat - wonderful, lets do it!    But please let it be vaugely
> theatre related at least, no redneck stuff or politics. It killed other
> lists, and attracted non-theatre people to add their rant.
>
> Dorian
>

I have to say that (as a Stagecraft List newbie, tho no stranger to rats &
tabs) I'd tend to agree. It's one thing sliding a little OT but quite
another to be blatantly so. With all due respect for the Anti-Wal-Mart
league, I personally don't believe this forum is the right place to air
those views.

Just my thoughts (and the last on the subject)

Ynot



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From: IAEG [at] aol.com
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Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 09:52:46 EDT
Subject: Re: Snow bag help
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In a message dated 5/14/04 5:39:39 AM, Jonathan [at] WillsLighting.com writes:

<< 
Now my question is, can anyone help me make a snow bag, have plans or
general info about it. Or does anyone have one in the Southeast Tennessee
area that they would be willing to let me borrow/rent for a week for a dance
recital. Any comments, suggestions, or help is greatly appreciated. >>


Call any of the Knoxville or Chattanooga ballet companies that do THE 
NUTCRACKER, , 
I'm sure you will find one reasonably, ( they are a pretty low tech item ) 
it's not like it's a busy season for Snow Bags, 

very best,

Keith Arsenault
President
IAEG -  International Arts & Entertainment Group 
Tampa, Florida

www.iaeginc.com

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Subject: Posting Ettiquette
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 08:56:16 -0500
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Great to have the list back but it seems in the short time without it, folks
forgot how to post.  In a recent digest, the long article about the fall at
the Bowie concert was repeated at least twice.  Please trim your posts and
quote only the pertinent point to which you're replying.  Every message
posted to the Theatre-sound list contains the following footer:

 PLEASE EDIT QUOTED TEXT: Do Not Forward Unnecessary Text Back To The
List.

Maybe we need a similar reminder on this list.


Rick Malone
Sound/Lighting Designer
San Antonio



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From: "Booth, Dennis" <boothd [at] ncarts.edu>
Subject: Re: Snow bag help
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 09:46:11 -0400
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We have snowbags available for rent, and I can also provide some help on
building one.  Contact me below if you're interested.

DGB

Dennis Gill Booth, Technical Director

  North Carolina School of the Arts 
  School of Design and Production 
  1553 South Main Street 
  PO Box 12189 
  Winston-Salem, NC   27117-2189 

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Hello all,

 

First, as a lurker it is great to have the list back. I have missed it over
the past weeks.

 

Now my question is, can anyone help me make a snow bag, have plans or
general info about it. Or does anyone have one in the Southeast Tennessee
area that they would be willing to let me borrow/rent for a week for a dance
recital. Any comments, suggestions, or help is greatly appreciated.

 

 

Thank you,

 

Jonathan Wills

Wills Lighting and Stage

423.432.8082

www.WillsLighting.com

 



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Message-Id: <200405141425.i4EEP0Kj027119 [at] tshield.longwood.edu>
From: "Paul Schreiner" <schreinerpd [at] longwood.edu>
Subject: Re: OT (was RE: Wal*Mart (Well off topic))
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 10:24:57 -0400
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 > You know, she's right... we should talk about issues 
> important to the creation of theatre! So, keeping that in 
> mind, let's talk about beer and wine! (I prefer either a good 
> stout, or Guiness.)

At least you have good taste...

But when you speak of the Nectar of the Gods, remember there are two N's in
the name "Guinness"!

Paul Schreiner
Technical Director, Longwood University Theatre  
434.395.2250  
ICQ# 2269284



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From: "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
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Subject: Re: Neccesities
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 05:14:16 -1000
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<<Back to my original point, if you think you can't live without your cell
phone - that it's a necessity for your survival, it's time to re-evaluate
your life. It can certainly be a convenience, but don't let it become more
than that.>>

I was speaking with a friend yesterday while working on the permanent set of
the new TV series "North Shore".  He commented that in the "old days" there
were a lot fewer positions in the film business, i.e where the art
department used to consist of the production designer, art director, set
decorator, and set dressers, there are now shoppers, coordinators, leadmen
and PA's.

I offered the opinion that this is a direct result of the speed and quantity
of information that can pass through the production. More people are needed
in specific positions to handle all the information.  Can we do the same
work without all the these people and new devices?

Mostly... but slower.

Laters,

Paul

"I have forgotten the german word for 'four'" Tom said fearlessly.




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Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 08:56:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: b Ricie <b_ricie [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Neccesities
In-Reply-To: <list-3408326 [at] prxy.net>

speaking of the neccesities...
>"I have forgotten the german word for 'four'" Tom
said fearlessly.
Ahhhh, how I have missed the Tom Said's.


=====
Brian Rice 
b_ricie [at] yahoo.com


	
		
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Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 12:26:44 -0400
From: "Stephen E. Rees" <Rees [at] fredonia.edu>
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Hi,
I'm sure Chris B will fill that need for us!!
Steve Rees

Rick Malone wrote:
> Great to have the list back but it seems in the short time without it, folks
> forgot how to post. [snipped]


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Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 12:24:37 -0400
From: Rigger <rigger [at] tds.net>
Subject: Re: Neccesities

At 8:56 AM -0700 5/14/04, b Ricie wrote:

>  Ahhhh, how I have missed the Tom Said's.


ITYM "Tom Swifties."

-- 
Dave Vick, IATSE #274
   Head Electrician,
   The Wharton Center for Performing Arts at Michigan State University
   <http://www.whartoncenter.com/>

    Carpe Per Diem

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Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 09:58:53 -0700
From: Ron Cargile <rcargile [at] uci.edu>
Subject: OSHA and Students

In a recent post, Unka Bill said

"It's not an opinion.  Gravity works everywhere.  The OSHA regs cover every
worker be they brain surgeons or stagehands.  Students are not covered as they
are not employees.  This holds for theatre students and med students alike."

I would like to point out that his statement, while not wrong, can be 
misleading.

A student ceases to be a "student" if they are a TA, work study, or have 
been asked to help out for pay.
Here at UCI, all of the grad students that I work with are considered 
employees becauses they are all Teaching Assistants.
If the student works in the library, he's still an employee if he is 
helping out in the theatre.

Also, schools, especially state schools, are held to tighter scrutiny than 
most other places, as we are supposed to be working in the public interest.

At least that's been my experience here.  YMMV
Better to hold to the regs and be safe than find out you should have been 
the hard way.
....Ron

__________
Ron Cargile
Electrics & Audio Supervisor
Claire Trevor School of the Arts
University of California, Irvine


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From: "Jon Ares" <jonares [at] hevanet.com>
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Subject: Re: OSHA and Students
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 10:25:15 -0700
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From: "Ron Cargile" <rcargile [at] uci.edu>
> Also, schools, especially state schools, are held to tighter scrutiny than
> most other places, as we are supposed to be working in the public
interest.


I'll concur with this... at my school (a high school), all this stuff has
come up time and time again (see the archives re: personnel lifts).
Although the students are NOT employees (even the TAs), they have to follow
OSHA guidelines, but not deemed so by OSHA itself - but rather because the
District's insurance carriers have decided (because it's easier) to mandate
that ALL activities, functions, persons follow OSHA and BOLI regulations.
Our arguments defending our situation is different than a meat-packing plant
falls on deaf ears when it comes to the insurance carriers.

 -- Jon Ares
www.hevanet.com/acreative


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From: "Alf Sauve" <alf [at] sauve.org>
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Subject: Re: Snow bag help
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 13:22:46 -0400
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409

> it's not like it's a busy season for Snow Bags,

Actually, Keith, in Atlanta, spring is a big time for snow business.  All
the fashion marts are displaying the winter stuff for the buyers.   When I
worked for Atlanta Costume last year I think we sold close to 100#s of snow
about this time.

Alf
Joyful Noise Maker


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From: "Karl G. Ruling" <kruling [at] esta.org>
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 14:03:22 -0400
Subject: Re: OSHA knowing about wire rope ladders
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> The newspaper
> article in the Miami Hearald titled 'Harness is Focus in Fatal Fall'
> is extremely illuminating especially the remark by the local OSHA
> inspector stating that he had never seen this type of ladder before.
> It was apparently a standard issue steel rope ladder most of us have
> used many many times. Does OSHA really know anything at all about our
> industry? or does it seem to anyone else that we are constantly trying
> to adapt our practices to OSHA guidelines created for different
> industries. 

I notified the OSHA person designated by ANSI as being the 
appropriate contact person for any worker safety related standard 
when ANSI E1.1-1999 was approved. E1.1 is the wire rope ladder 
standard that came out of ESTA's Technical Standards Program, and 
which requires the use of a personal fall arrest system whenever 
anybody climbs a wire rope ladder. Last year OSHA announced that it 
was reviewing its regulations for worker fall protection and I 
formally submitted comments that ANSI E1.1 should be referenced along 
with all the A14 ladder standards. Therefore, the federal OSHA office 
has been notified twice that ANSI E1.1 exists and that it covers 
these kinds of ladders. 

Luis Santiago, the OSHA regional director quoted in that Miami Herald 
article, now knows about ANSI E1.1-1999--or, at least he should. A 
copy was sent to him just a few days ago.

 
Best regards,
Karl G. Ruling
Technical Standards Manager

ESTA
875 Sixth Avenue, Suite 1005
New York, NY 10001
+1-212-244-1505
Fax +1-212-244-1502


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From: IAEG [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <1f1.2095a173.2dd66415 [at] aol.com>
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 14:04:05 EDT
Subject: Re: Snow bag help
X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 36


In a message dated 5/14/04 10:36:36 AM, alf [at] sauve.org writes:

<< Actually, Keith, in Atlanta, spring is a big time for snow business.  All

the fashion marts are displaying the winter stuff for the buyers.   When I

worked for Atlanta Costume last year I think we sold close to 100#s of snow

about this time.


Alf

Joyful Noise Maker >>

snow yes, ,, but snow bags ?   I doubt too many of those fashion shows are in 
proscenium theatres with battens to hang a snow bag on, , , 

atlanta, , ahhh, , atlanta, , , just did a nice show at the GWCC's new 
Georgia Ballroom last week, , 
speaking of proscenium theatres, they have a nice stage in that room, with 
motorized line sets and all

very best,

Keith Arsenault

IAEG -  International Arts & Entertainment Group 
Tampa, Florida

www.iaeginc.com

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From: "Erika Smock" <billybobstorm [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: OT (was RE: Wal*Mart (Well off topic))
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 12:14:07 -0600
Message-ID: <BAY13-F53QzIvjYzNY0000127fa [at] hotmail.com>

I actually prefer a good mixed drink.  Wine doesn't sit well with me
erika


>From: "Joe Meils" <bipolarber [at] cyberback.com>
>Reply-To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
>To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
>Subject: Re: OT (was RE: Wal*Mart (Well off topic))
>Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 02:47:17 -0500
>
>For info on subscribing, unsubscribing, and suspending
>your list subscription, go to the Stagecraft web site at:
>    http://stagecraft.theprices.net/
>---------------------------------------------------
>
>
>You know, she's right... we should talk about issues important to the
>creation of theatre! So, keeping that in mind, let's talk about beer and
>wine! (I prefer either a good stout, or Guiness.)
>
>Joe
>
> >
> > Dorian Kelly wrote:
> > > Can we please stick to stage or theatre topics, and give your
> > > opinions on other matters to someone else?
>
>

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Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 14:32:22 -0500
From: Chuck Mitchell <chmitche [at] wisc.edu>
Subject: osha and students
Message-id: <5.2.1.1.2.20040514142958.00b3efe8 [at] wiscmail.wisc.edu>
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Students (non-employee students) are not covered by OSHA, but lets remember 
that we are teaching habits to these students.  Keeping the OSHA standards 
as our standards will (hopefully) make safety their standard operating 
procedure when they leave school.

Chuck

Chuck Mitchell
Scene Studio Supervisor
University Theatre - University of Wisconsin-Madison
608-263-3330
FAX 608-265-4075 



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From: "Jon Ares" <jonares [at] hevanet.com>
References: <list-3409536 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: osha and students
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 12:48:42 -0700
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> Students (non-employee students) are not covered by OSHA, but lets
remember
> that we are teaching habits to these students.  Keeping the OSHA standards
> as our standards will (hopefully) make safety their standard operating
> procedure when they leave school.


Promoting safety by example is all fine and good, but where things get to be
inhibiting is such things as not being able to train a student to use a
personnel lift.  (I don't have my documentation with me - this may be more
of a BOLI issue, and not OSHA.)

I'd rather teach students to safely and properly use lifts before they go
out in the 'real world' and find gonzos using them without outriggers (if
they're designed to operate with them in place) or doing other stupid things
up in a bucket.

 -- Jon Ares
www.hevanet.com/acreative


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From: Bsapsis [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <ce.4d30d230.2dd67e6f [at] aol.com>
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 15:56:31 EDT
Subject: Re: osha and students
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In a message dated 5/14/04 3:51:59 PM, jonares [at] hevanet.com writes:

<< I'd rather teach students to safely and properly use lifts before they go

out in the 'real world' and find gonzos using them without outriggers (if

they're designed to operate with them in place) or doing other stupid things

up in a bucket. >>

The best way to do this is to bring in the local lift rep and have them teach 
the class.  It's usually about 4 hours long and...in theory...they're more 
familiar with the gear than anyone else.  there's also the issue of shared 
liability.  If you teach the class you don't get to share with anybody.

Be well
Bill S.

Sapsis Rigging, Inc.
www.sapsis-rigging.com
800.727.7471
800.292.3851 fax
We stand behind, and under, our work.

Check out the Long Beach Long Riders cross country fund raiser for BC/EFA at 
http://sapsis-rigging.com/LBLR.html

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References: <list-3406983 [at] prxy.net>
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 16:28:15 -0400
From: Steve Boone <sboone [at] bgnet.bgsu.edu>
Subject: Low Light/IR Sensitive Camera and Illuminator

Hi,
	Does anybody have any recommendations for a low light 
sensitive camera and infrared flood?  We're trying to move into the 
late 20th century here, and I think we might have the money for one, 
somewhere.


Thanks in advance,
Steve Boone, (today I'm a TD)
Bowling Green State Univ.

------------------------------

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References: <list-3383789 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <3F836510-1DF6-11B2-BFF2-000A9592AE20 [at] tany.com>
From: Brian Aldous <brian [at] tany.com>
Subject: Re: Les Mis/ Opera spots
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1969 23:18:55 -0500
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606)

And, best of all, it is the only great play that actually calls for a 
mirrorball.  I've put one just offstage both times  I've done it.

BA


On May 10, 2004, at 7:00 PM, Herrick wrote:

> For info on subscribing, unsubscribing, and suspending
> your list subscription, go to the Stagecraft web site at:
>   http://stagecraft.theprices.net/
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Already on the glass animals from below concept. That's the easy one.
>
> Now working with the director who wants to use Williams' original 
> "Magic Lantern" projections as written is the next project.
>
> It's interesting how times have changed. William's was just coming off 
> a huge flop when GM premiered and he wanted literal projections of 
> words and images to reinforce his characters' words.
>
> Nowadays projection is so commonplace that just projecting words seems 
> trite and too much like supertitles. Also his play and his characters 
> are so strong and his writing so powerful that I can't
> imagine distracting the audience with a picture of "blue roses". I 
> personally think that were he alive now Williams would not want these 
> visual crutches in his drama.
>
> Also for any students out there who have never read his introduction 
> to Glass Menagerie it is a lighting designers dream come true. I had 
> forgotten about it entirely until I re-read the play again.
>
> It's as good as "Magic of Light".
>
> Thanks for the BP verification y'all.
>
> -H
>
>


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References: <list-3409106 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <294A433F-A5E7-11D8-8DD2-000A9583899E [at] bsu.edu>
From: Chip Haas <chaas [at] bsu.edu>
Subject: AutoCad LT
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 15:42:05 -0500
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606)

Hey there everyone, it sure is great to have the list back.

I will be moving this fall to join the faculty at the University of 
North Carolina Greensboro and I have a slight problem.  They use 
AutoCad there and I've only used MacDraft and Vectorworks.  So I'm now 
trying to learn AutoCad as a summer project.  Anyway, they've shipped 
me an old computer (okay, not old, but spare) that has AutoCad on it.  
Do any of y'all have any suggestions for a Learning AutoCad LT for 
Dummies book or CD tutorials?  I'm pretty proficient with the two 
programs I know, so I'm reasonably confident that I can get up to speed 
with AutoCad.

On a sidenote, if there are any TD's out there looking for an excellent 
opportunity, keep your eyes peeled for the announcement here at Ball 
State sometime in the fall.  This has been an excellent place to work 
with top notch faculty and students.  If Muncie just wasn't 12 hours 
away from the grandparents, I would have stayed here forever (I would 
like to think).  However the chance to be less than an hour away from 
one set and 4 hours from the other was too much to pass up.


Chip Haas
Technical Director / Assistant Professor of Theatre
Department of Theatre and Dance
Ball State University
Muncie, IN  47306

765-285-0978

chaas [at] bsu.edu


------------------------------

From: "Kevin Patrick" <patrick_kevin [at] colstate.edu>
Subject: dance floor - help me find the info!
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 17:05:53 -0400
X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510
In-Reply-To: <list-3409899 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <auto-000003410020 [at] prxy.net>

Does anyone have in their personal archives of this list information about
an inexpensive dance floor solution that used blue foam sheets and hardboard
or MDF as a top layer?  Probably had a dance surface on top of that?

I think it came from Plattsburgh State University in New York, but Google
hasn't pulled anything up about this particular design, and the archives
aren't yet searchable.  I have year-end money and a faculty anxious to have
a more forgiving floor than hard tile over concrete slab.  I explored the
other options, but more labor or more cost is not appropriate at this time.
We'll be moving in two or three years to a new building, and this floor will
not follow us.

Thanks,
Kevin Patrick.


-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Chip Haas
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 4:42 PM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: AutoCad LT

For info on subscribing, unsubscribing, and suspending
your list subscription, go to the Stagecraft web site at:
   http://stagecraft.theprices.net/
---------------------------------------------------


Hey there everyone, it sure is great to have the list back.

I will be moving this fall to join the faculty at the University of 
North Carolina Greensboro and I have a slight problem.  They use 
AutoCad there and I've only used MacDraft and Vectorworks.  So I'm now 
trying to learn AutoCad as a summer project.  Anyway, they've shipped 
me an old computer (okay, not old, but spare) that has AutoCad on it.  
Do any of y'all have any suggestions for a Learning AutoCad LT for 
Dummies book or CD tutorials?  I'm pretty proficient with the two 
programs I know, so I'm reasonably confident that I can get up to speed 
with AutoCad.

On a sidenote, if there are any TD's out there looking for an excellent 
opportunity, keep your eyes peeled for the announcement here at Ball 
State sometime in the fall.  This has been an excellent place to work 
with top notch faculty and students.  If Muncie just wasn't 12 hours 
away from the grandparents, I would have stayed here forever (I would 
like to think).  However the chance to be less than an hour away from 
one set and 4 hours from the other was too much to pass up.


Chip Haas
Technical Director / Assistant Professor of Theatre
Department of Theatre and Dance
Ball State University
Muncie, IN  47306

765-285-0978

chaas [at] bsu.edu


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From: "Jeff Mabray" <jeff.mabray [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: Low Light/IR Sensitive Camera and Illuminator
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 16:23:55 -0500
Message-ID: <PPEPLMPPDJDPKKGBPFHAKEGHCAAA.jeff.mabray [at] cox.net>
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In-Reply-To: <list-3409825 [at] prxy.net>


I got a Jwin camera and monitor from ebay for about 80 bucks.  The camera
works fine but might need some IR help. I have been running some blue
striplights above the stage at about 8% and I can see clear as day on the
monitor but almost nothing actually on stage.

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft
[mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.nstagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On]On Behalf Of
Steve
Boone
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 3:28 PM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Low Light/IR Sensitive Camera and Illuminator


For info on subscribing, unsubscribing, and suspending
your list subscription, go to the Stagecraft web site at:
   http://stagecraft.theprices.net/
---------------------------------------------------


Hi,
	Does anybody have any recommendations for a low light
sensitive camera and infrared flood?  We're trying to move into the
late 20th century here, and I think we might have the money for one,
somewhere.


Thanks in advance,
Steve Boone, (today I'm a TD)
Bowling Green State Univ.



------------------------------

Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 17:31:19 -0400
Subject: Re: Les Mis/ Opera spots
From: Herrick <Herrick [at] hglightingdesign.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-3409881 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <09A93DA9-A5EE-11D8-97BE-0003934521EC [at] hglightingdesign.com>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553)

Yeah we (the scrappy little theater on Cape Cod)  have what was a "snow 
machine". a tube with strips of mirror running lengthwise. They used it 
for falling snow but it will work great for the mirror ball.


On Wednesday, Dec 31, 1969, at 23:18 America/New_York, Brian Aldous 
wrote:

> For info on subscribing, unsubscribing, and suspending
> your list subscription, go to the Stagecraft web site at:
>   http://stagecraft.theprices.net/
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
>
> And, best of all, it is the only great play that actually calls for a 
> mirrorball.  I've put one just offstage both times  I've done it.
>
> BA
>
>
> On May 10, 2004, at 7:00 PM, Herrick wrote:
>
>> For info on subscribing, unsubscribing, and suspending
>> your list subscription, go to the Stagecraft web site at:
>>   http://stagecraft.theprices.net/
>> ---------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> Already on the glass animals from below concept. That's the easy one.
>>
>> Now working with the director who wants to use Williams' original 
>> "Magic Lantern" projections as written is the next project.
>>
>> It's interesting how times have changed. William's was just coming 
>> off a huge flop when GM premiered and he wanted literal projections 
>> of words and images to reinforce his characters' words.
>>
>> Nowadays projection is so commonplace that just projecting words 
>> seems trite and too much like supertitles. Also his play and his 
>> characters are so strong and his writing so powerful that I can't
>> imagine distracting the audience with a picture of "blue roses". I 
>> personally think that were he alive now Williams would not want these 
>> visual crutches in his drama.
>>
>> Also for any students out there who have never read his introduction 
>> to Glass Menagerie it is a lighting designers dream come true. I had 
>> forgotten about it entirely until I re-read the play again.
>>
>> It's as good as "Magic of Light".
>>
>> Thanks for the BP verification y'all.
>>
>> -H
>>
>>
>
>
>
Herrick Goldman
Lighting Designer, NYC
www.HGLightingDesign.com

"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and 
in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS


------------------------------

Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 17:31:19 -0400
Subject: Re: Les Mis/ Opera spots
From: Herrick <Herrick [at] hglightingdesign.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-3409881 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <09A93DA9-A5EE-11D8-97BE-0003934521EC [at] hglightingdesign.com>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553)

Yeah we (the scrappy little theater on Cape Cod)  have what was a "snow 
machine". a tube with strips of mirror running lengthwise. They used it 
for falling snow but it will work great for the mirror ball.


On Wednesday, Dec 31, 1969, at 23:18 America/New_York, Brian Aldous 
wrote:

> For info on subscribing, unsubscribing, and suspending
> your list subscription, go to the Stagecraft web site at:
>   http://stagecraft.theprices.net/
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
>
> And, best of all, it is the only great play that actually calls for a 
> mirrorball.  I've put one just offstage both times  I've done it.
>
> BA
>
>
> On May 10, 2004, at 7:00 PM, Herrick wrote:
>
>> For info on subscribing, unsubscribing, and suspending
>> your list subscription, go to the Stagecraft web site at:
>>   http://stagecraft.theprices.net/
>> ---------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> Already on the glass animals from below concept. That's the easy one.
>>
>> Now working with the director who wants to use Williams' original 
>> "Magic Lantern" projections as written is the next project.
>>
>> It's interesting how times have changed. William's was just coming 
>> off a huge flop when GM premiered and he wanted literal projections 
>> of words and images to reinforce his characters' words.
>>
>> Nowadays projection is so commonplace that just projecting words 
>> seems trite and too much like supertitles. Also his play and his 
>> characters are so strong and his writing so powerful that I can't
>> imagine distracting the audience with a picture of "blue roses". I 
>> personally think that were he alive now Williams would not want these 
>> visual crutches in his drama.
>>
>> Also for any students out there who have never read his introduction 
>> to Glass Menagerie it is a lighting designers dream come true. I had 
>> forgotten about it entirely until I re-read the play again.
>>
>> It's as good as "Magic of Light".
>>
>> Thanks for the BP verification y'all.
>>
>> -H
>>
>>
>
>
>
Herrick Goldman
Lighting Designer, NYC
www.HGLightingDesign.com

"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and 
in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS


------------------------------

Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 17:49:58 -0400
Subject: Re: Les Mis/ Opera spots
From: Herrick <Herrick [at] hglightingdesign.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-3409881 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <A531254C-A5F0-11D8-825B-0003934521EC [at] hglightingdesign.com>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553)

Yeah we (the scrappy little theater on Cape Cod)  have what was a "snow 
machine". a tube with strips of mirror running lengthwise. They used it 
for falling snow but it will work great for the mirror ball.


On Wednesday, Dec 31, 1969, at 23:18 America/New_York, Brian Aldous 
wrote:
>
> And, best of all, it is the only great play that actually calls for a 
> mirrorball.  I've put one just offstage both times  I've done it.
>
> BA
>
Herrick Goldman
Lighting Designer, NYC
www.HGLightingDesign.com

"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and 
in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS


------------------------------

Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 17:54:04 -0400
Subject: Re: Les Mis/ Opera spots sorry for multiple posts
From: Herrick <Herrick [at] hglightingdesign.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-3410264 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <37AD3DE8-A5F1-11D8-825B-0003934521EC [at] hglightingdesign.com>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553)

that was odd...That message sent a few times. my apologies.


Herrick Goldman
Lighting Designer, NYC
www.HGLightingDesign.com

"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and 
in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS


------------------------------

Message-ID: <001601c43a01$40d07c80$6ec10281 [at] moscowcalling>
From: "Daniel Hoffman" <nospam [at] softhome.net>
References: <list-3409106 [at] prxy.net> <list-3409899 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: AutoCad LT
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 18:17:32 -0400
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409

I've found L.J. DeCuir's "Using AutoCAD: An Introduction to
Computer-Assisted Design for the Theatre" to be a great reference, if
somewhat simplistic at points--but it does provide a good introduction to
AutoCAD.
ISBN 0-325-00122-7.

__
Daniel Hoffman (danhoff [at] umd.edu)
"Famous last words:  "Worf, you MUST be a wimp.""



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chip Haas" <chaas [at] bsu.edu>
To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 4:42 PM
Subject: AutoCad LT


> For info on subscribing, unsubscribing, and suspending
> your list subscription, go to the Stagecraft web site at:
>    http://stagecraft.theprices.net/
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Hey there everyone, it sure is great to have the list back.
>
> I will be moving this fall to join the faculty at the University of
> North Carolina Greensboro and I have a slight problem.  They use
> AutoCad there and I've only used MacDraft and Vectorworks.  So I'm now
> trying to learn AutoCad as a summer project.  Anyway, they've shipped
> me an old computer (okay, not old, but spare) that has AutoCad on it.
> Do any of y'all have any suggestions for a Learning AutoCad LT for
> Dummies book or CD tutorials?  I'm pretty proficient with the two
> programs I know, so I'm reasonably confident that I can get up to speed
> with AutoCad.
>
> On a sidenote, if there are any TD's out there looking for an excellent
> opportunity, keep your eyes peeled for the announcement here at Ball
> State sometime in the fall.  This has been an excellent place to work
> with top notch faculty and students.  If Muncie just wasn't 12 hours
> away from the grandparents, I would have stayed here forever (I would
> like to think).  However the chance to be less than an hour away from
> one set and 4 hours from the other was too much to pass up.
>
>
> Chip Haas
> Technical Director / Assistant Professor of Theatre
> Department of Theatre and Dance
> Ball State University
> Muncie, IN  47306
>
> 765-285-0978
>
> chaas [at] bsu.edu
>


------------------------------

From: "Erika Smock" <billybobstorm [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: AutoCad LT
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 23:05:10 -0600
Message-ID: <BAY13-F98qzDtElGPbu000134da [at] hotmail.com>

I have heard that going for Vectorworks to AutoCAD is harder that going form 
AutoCAD to Vectorworks. I currently use AutoCAD 2004 but I learned on 
AutoCAD2002. The best adivice I can give you is to buy one of the books like 
AutoCAD2002 and learn all the commands.  There is also a book out there for 
theatre use of CAD.  I have been told the best way to learn CAD is to learn 
the commands and mess around with the program.  Good Luck.
erika


>From: Chip Haas <chaas [at] bsu.edu>
>Reply-To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
>To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
>Subject: AutoCad LT
>Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 15:42:05 -0500
>
>For info on subscribing, unsubscribing, and suspending
>your list subscription, go to the Stagecraft web site at:
>   http://stagecraft.theprices.net/
>---------------------------------------------------
>
>
>Hey there everyone, it sure is great to have the list back.
>
>I will be moving this fall to join the faculty at the University of North 
>Carolina Greensboro and I have a slight problem.  They use AutoCad there 
>and I've only used MacDraft and Vectorworks.  So I'm now trying to learn 
>AutoCad as a summer project.  Anyway, they've shipped me an old computer 
>(okay, not old, but spare) that has AutoCad on it.  Do any of y'all have 
>any suggestions for a Learning AutoCad LT for Dummies book or CD tutorials? 
>  I'm pretty proficient with the two programs I know, so I'm reasonably 
>confident that I can get up to speed with AutoCad.
>
>On a sidenote, if there are any TD's out there looking for an excellent 
>opportunity, keep your eyes peeled for the announcement here at Ball State 
>sometime in the fall.  This has been an excellent place to work with top 
>notch faculty and students.  If Muncie just wasn't 12 hours away from the 
>grandparents, I would have stayed here forever (I would like to think).  
>However the chance to be less than an hour away from one set and 4 hours 
>from the other was too much to pass up.
>
>
>Chip Haas
>Technical Director / Assistant Professor of Theatre
>Department of Theatre and Dance
>Ball State University
>Muncie, IN  47306
>
>765-285-0978
>
>chaas [at] bsu.edu
>

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