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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #11

 1. Cell Phone Jamming - LA TIMES Story
    by "Alf Sauve" <alf [at] sauve.org>
 2. Re: AutoCad 3D plotting
    by Paul Masck <paul [at] masck.com>
 3. Re: AutoCad 3D plotting
    by "F. Randy deCelle" <drandolp [at] uiuc.edu>
 4. EPG flooring
    by Heather Hillhouse-Deans <hjh2 [at] Lehigh.EDU>
 5. Oregon self-serve (was Re: Wal-Mart)
    by "Jon Ares" <jonares [at] hevanet.com>
 6. Re: sunglasses (was Wal-Mart)
    by "Karl G. Ruling" <kruling [at] esta.org>
 7. Re: EPG flooring
    by Howard Ires <hi [at] hillinteractive.net>
 8. ETC Offers End-User Training
    by "Sarah Clausen" <sclausen [at] etcconnect.com>
 9. Re: OSHA and Students
    by "Jon Ares" <jonares [at] hevanet.com>
10. Re: Wal-Mart 
    by "Jon Ares" <jonares [at] hevanet.com>
11. The day the mail died
    by Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
12. Epoxy question
    by "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
13. Undeliverable mail: 'Real' hardware stores
    by Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com
14. Scott Parker's School on TV in NY
    by "Scott C. Parker" <stagecraftlist [at] hstech.org>
15. Tony Randall, RIP
    by "Paul Schreiner" <schreinerpd [at] longwood.edu>
16. Re: Small theatre in Cape Cod...
    by b Ricie <b_ricie [at] yahoo.com>
17. Re: AutoCAD LT
    by "Rob Johnson" <rjohnson [at] stagestheatre.org>
18. Re: Small theatre in Cape Cod...
    by "Jason" <OneOccy [at] hotmail.com>
19. Re: Tony Randall, RIP
    by Noah Price <stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net>
20. OSHA certifications
    by "Booth, Dennis" <boothd [at] ncarts.edu>
21. Re: Epoxy question
    by Chuck Mitchell <chmitche [at] wisc.edu>
22. Re: Tony Randall, RIP
    by "Paul Schreiner" <schreinerpd [at] longwood.edu>
23. Re: Cell Phone Jamming - LA TIMES Story
    by Wood Chip-P26398 <Chip.Wood [at] motorola.com>
24. Re: Tony Randall, RIP
    by Pat Kight <kightp [at] peak.org>
25. Re: sunglasses (was Wal-Mart)
    by Wood Chip-P26398 <Chip.Wood [at] motorola.com>
26. Re: Small theatre in Cape Cod...
    by b Ricie <b_ricie [at] yahoo.com>
27. Re: Shopping at Home Depot (Was Wal-Mart)
    by Loren Schreiber <lschreib [at] mail.sdsu.edu>
28. Outstanding Theatre Programs
    by "Delbert Hall" <halld [at] etsu.edu>
29. Re: Cell Phone Jamming - LA TIMES Story
    by MissWisc [at] aol.com
30. Re: Tony Randall, RIP
    by Rigger <rigger [at] tds.net>
31. Re: OSHA certifications
    by Bsapsis [at] aol.com
32. Re: Shopping at Home Depot (Was Wal-Mart)
    by "Joe Meils" <bipolarber [at] cyberback.com>
33. Re: repainting a muslin backdrop
    by b Ricie <b_ricie [at] yahoo.com>
34. Spinning Flats
    by Steve Swaddling <swaddling [at] shaw.ca>

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Message-ID: <034d01c43ccd$60d60ee0$0600a8c0 [at] alf>
From: "Alf Sauve" <alf [at] sauve.org>
Subject: Cell Phone Jamming - LA TIMES Story
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 07:37:09 -0400

http://www.dailynews.com/cda/article/print/0,1674,200~20954~2136463,00.html

Reference in story to theatres wanting to use the technology.

Alf


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Message-Id: <86720538-A8C3-11D8-B9C2-00039301A716 [at] masck.com>
From: Paul Masck <paul [at] masck.com>
Subject: Re: AutoCad 3D plotting
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 08:04:33 -0400


On May 18, 2004, at 6:00 AM, Stagecraft wrote:

> Michael Powers <mfpowers [at] theater.umass.edu> writes:
>
> Randy, you are correct.  I can print the hidden lines removed
> version quite easily just in the plot window click on "HIDE".  It is
> indeed the shading that I would like to print.

I've entered into this conversation kind of late-

ACAD can certainly print the rendered (shaded) version
of a 3d model. The best way to do it is to setup a Paperspace
viewport that has "rendered" selected for shademode (viewport selected, 
properties tab).
The Page Layout tab will grey this section out then. Printing
shaded views from ModelSpace doesn't usually work for
whatever reason.

I can help further if needed. The PLOT command is one of the most
powerful and infuriating commands in autocad.

Cheers-
P...

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Paul Masck    paul [at] masck.com       www.masck.com
slave to the misshapen chaos of well-seeming forms
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From: "F. Randy deCelle" <drandolp [at] uiuc.edu>
Subject: Re: AutoCad 3D plotting
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 08:27:57 -0500
Message-ID: <LKEKJJKHNCHDFGKJFNDJKEELCLAA.drandolp [at] uiuc.edu>

Michael,

You can generate an image of an AutoCAD file a couple of ways.  For a
Rendering, the way I have done it is to first set up the view on my
display in Model space.  Then go to the View pull down
menu/Render/Render and you get a dialog box.  Change Destination to
File.  From there you can go to Options to deal with resolution, file
type, etc.  You then tell it to Render, it brings up a file dialog
box, and you choose where to save it.  I usually load it into
PhotoShop or something similar to do any other editing.

I then go to the Insert pull down menu/Raster Image and select the
file.  When the file comes in, you probably will scale it.  Sometimes,
if you reload the AutoCAD file, the image is not there and it is just
a blank box that acts as a place holder.  The image is actually
referenced externally and if you move the CAD or image file, AutoCAD
can't find it.  If you go to the Insert pull down menu/Image Manager,
you can point AutoCAD to the image file again.  Past that, I'm not
sure what could be happening.

Randy

_________________________________________________________________
F. Randy deCelle, Assistant Professor, Chair of Scenic Technology
Department of Theatre - University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign


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Message-ID: <40AA16A5.40003 [at] lehigh.edu>
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:59:01 -0400
From: Heather Hillhouse-Deans <hjh2 [at] Lehigh.EDU>
Subject: EPG flooring

Hi All-
I'm looking at replacing the surface of our stage floor, and the idea 
has been broached of
 using EPG or Unfinished Phenolic Laminate. I know it is extremely 
durable , what I don't
 know is how easily it takes screws (we usually use plain old drywall- 
would I need to use self tapping?), and how hard it is to repair those 
holes later. I've been assured that "its easy"
 and all I have to do is "patch the plastic"- I haven't worked much with
plastics, so I'm a little dubious.
Any help would be great!
Heather Hillhouse-Deans
Technical Director
Zoellner Arts Center/Lehigh University


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Message-ID: <001401c43ce2$12a1de10$0201a8c0 [at] BRUTUS>
From: "Jon Ares" <jonares [at] hevanet.com>
Subject: Oregon self-serve (was Re: Wal-Mart)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 07:11:53 -0700

> >>[Simon Shuker]  They still do in the UAE - in fact self service is
illegal
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Same in Oregon (unless it changed recently...)
> >
>
> Nope, we're still happily full-service and inclined (according to the
> polls) to keep it that way.
>


Weeellll.... yes, self-serve is illegal in Oregon, but you could probably
count on one hand the number of stations that have "full service."  Most
offer what legally is called "Mini-serve," meaning they don't check air,
oil, etc.

Not too long ago, there was a thing on the news about this issue: apparently
there's a law in Oregon about what "Full Serve" means... and although I
don't recall the particulars, the law states that certain things must be
done at every Full-serve island: tires, oil, windshield and back window, and
perhaps some others.  I was surprised.  This report started when people were
complaining about paying 5 cents or more per gallon by pulling up at the
wrong island, and not knowing what service they were entitled to receive.

 -- Jon Ares
www.hevanet.com/acreative


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From: "Karl G. Ruling" <kruling [at] esta.org>
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 10:13:21 -0400
Subject: Re: sunglasses (was Wal-Mart)
Message-ID: <40A9E1C1.14017.528940D [at] localhost>

Herrick Goldman wrote:

> I've been trying to buy some very nice sunglasses for a week now and I
> can't find ones i like. Because 90% of the good quality sunglasses
> sold in NYC are sold at Sunglass Hut and they only carry a limited
> line.  Gone are the days of finding unique products in nooks and
> crannies around town. 

Sunglass Hut carries what its owner, the Luxottica Group, makes.  The 
Luxottica Group makes more than 2,450 brands of glasses and designer 
frames, including Chanel, Ray-Ban, and Revo. If you decide to get 
some prescription sunglasses, you can go to LensCrafters or to EyeMed 
Vision Care--your choice, but Luxottica owns both of those, too. 
Earlier this year, Luxottica struck a deal with the Cole National 
Corporation to buy Cole National. Cole National operates Sears 
Optical, BJ's Optical Department, Target Optical, and Pearle Vision 
stores. That deal is now being scrutinized by regulators because it 
would make Luxottica Group the owner of all the major eyewear stores 
in the USA.  

On the other hand, you could call the Luxottica Group a "mom-and-pop" 
operation since the founder, Leonardo Del Vecchio, owns 70% of the 
company. 


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Message-ID: <40AA1D00.5070904 [at] hillinteractive.net>
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 10:26:08 -0400
From: Howard Ires <hi [at] hillinteractive.net>
Subject: Re: EPG flooring

I prefer a plain old 3/4" plywood floor painted flat black. 
  You can pound nails into it, you can drive screws into it, 
you can cut holes in it. It takes paint well, it's easy to 
install, easy to repair, and inexpensive to replace when it 
wears out.

If you plan on using something more exotic get a sample and 
try it out.

-------------howie

Heather Hillhouse-Deans wrote:
> For info on subscribing, unsubscribing, and suspending
> your list subscription, go to the Stagecraft web site at:
>   http://stagecraft.theprices.net/
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> Hi All-
> I'm looking at replacing the surface of our stage floor, and the idea 
> has been broached of
> using EPG or Unfinished Phenolic Laminate. I know it is extremely 
> durable , what I don't
> know is how easily it takes screws (we usually use plain old drywall- 
> would I need to use self tapping?), and how hard it is to repair those 
> holes later. I've been assured that "its easy"
> and all I have to do is "patch the plastic"- I haven't worked much with
> plastics, so I'm a little dubious.
> Any help would be great!
> Heather Hillhouse-Deans
> Technical Director
> Zoellner Arts Center/Lehigh University
> 
> 

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Subject: ETC Offers End-User Training
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:25:42 -0500
Message-ID: <0B70E9798A3B4E4080E46327FA359F2129546B [at] MIDL-MAILV.etclink.net>
From: "Sarah Clausen" <sclausen [at] etcconnect.com>

I'm posting this for our Field Service Manager. Please send questions or =
comments directly to him - Thanks!

Sarah Clausen
Product Marketing Group
Electronic Theatre Controls, Inc.

>>>>>>><<<<<<<<

ETC Technical Services to offer End-User Training

In response to numerous requests and the success of last year's =
by-invitation-only class, ETC Technical Services is now pleased to offer =
two four-day in-depth courses covering the operation and maintenance of =
ETC systems. This training includes your choice of Obsession or =
Express/Expression training.

Please see the ETC Homepage at www.etcconnect.com for more information =
and an application form.


Mike Meskill
ETC Field Service Manager
mmeskill [at] etcconnect.com

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Message-ID: <004301c43ce5$fd8621e0$0201a8c0 [at] BRUTUS>
From: "Jon Ares" <jonares [at] hevanet.com>
Subject: Re: OSHA and Students
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 07:40:00 -0700

> >Bureau Of Labor & Industry (Industries?)
>
> Is this a state office in your area?

Yes, it appears to be a state office.  www.boli.state.or.us

As I look over the reams of paper from the district carrier (Liberty Mutual)
the info again all refers to child employment, and the myriad of banned
occupations (a reasonable list, when speaking of employment).

One of the "Prohibited hazardous Occupations or Operations" that was
highlighted in the copy given to me is as follows:
"Power Driven Woodworking Machine Occupations:  Woodworking occupations
involving the use or maintenance of power driven woodworking machines for
cutting, shaping, forming, surfacing, nailing, stapling, wire stitching,
fastening or assembling, pressing or printing of wood or veneer."

So by the words of our insurance carriers, students are not to perform
stagecraft.

(Interestingly, the same document (www.boli.state.or.us/wage/hazard.html)
outlines the machinery that IS ok for 16-17 yo's to use: Metalworking tools:
Milling function machines, lathes, planing function machines, borers,
grinding function machines-drills, drill press reamers, honers.)

All this goes back to the issue of whether we're able to instruct/train
students in the safe and proper use of tools (and lifts) - or not.  The
insurance carriers, to keep things simple, clearly state that if an
under-age employee is prohibited from using the equipment, then we are not
covered if they use the equipment.  Educational institution or not.

 -- Jon Ares
www.hevanet.com/acreative


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Message-ID: <004e01c43ce6$e80a4bb0$0201a8c0 [at] BRUTUS>
From: "Jon Ares" <jonares [at] hevanet.com>
Subject: Re: Wal-Mart 
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 07:46:29 -0700

> can't hope to get. Result? A limited stock of items, and no alternatives.


This is one thing about the 'big boxes'  that drive me crazy:  you go buy
one of their "Super Deal!" products, perhaps one that requires refills (such
as nails, or special rechargables) and when you go back a month or two
later, they no longer carry that brand!    It's like they only carry what
fell off the truck that day, and good luck finding any more later.

 -- Jon Ares
www.hevanet.com/acreative


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Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.0.20040518083912.00ac6330 [at] localhost>
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 08:47:18 -0700
Cc: jdurand [at] interstellar.com
From: Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
Subject: The day the mail died

Our mail server broke yesterday morning, it was an awful mess.  There were 
bits, bytes, and words everywhere.  The letter store also ruptured spilling 
letters everywhere like glitter on a windy day (we'll be finding letters 
for years to come).  It's a good thing we have 24 hour support on the 
server, only we thought 24 hour meant they're available day and night, not 
that it TAKES 24 hours to fix it.

So, all should be well soon (other than the missing letters that will turn 
up when you least expect them), or so tech support tells us.  At least we 
can send, just not receive e-mail.

If you need to contact us, please call or fax.

----------
Jerry Durand
Durand Interstellar, Inc.
219 Oak Wood Way
Los Gatos, California 95032-2523  USA
tel:  +1 408 356-3886
fax:  +1 408 356-4659
web:  www.interstellar.com



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Message-ID: <006101c43cf4$30166f80$0202a8c0 [at] MyLastPC>
From: "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
Subject: Epoxy question
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 06:21:33 -1000

As always, I am looking for "new" and better ways to stick things together.
Rather than repeating research by fellow list members, I ask the following:

Has anyone had success with a "good" fast setting epoxy?

I have tried so many "quick" epoxies that ended up not being what I would
call "quick".  It seems that the stated curing times are more guidelines
than an actual measures of the time it takes for the material to actually
harden.  "60 second" epoxies take around 5 - 10 minutes to cure, 5 minute
epoxy takes around 10 - 15 minute, etc.

Anyone have a brand name for a really fast epoxy?

I carry in my kit a full selection of cyanoacrylate glues from "ultra thin"
to "super ultra supreme mega giant so big you can't spit that far gap
filling" along with "zip kicker", but they are not always suited for many of
the applications that I face.

I have had great success though with many of the hardware store available
epoxy putties.

Laters,

Paul

"I can't keep Millie from sliding off her barstool" sail Tom gloomily.


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Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 13:03:16 -0400

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Message-Id: <6.0.3.0.2.20040518135340.034b74e8 [at] mail.hstech.org>
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 13:54:07 -0400
From: "Scott C. Parker" <stagecraftlist [at] hstech.org>
Subject: Scott Parker's School on TV in NY

Greetings all,
Tomorrow morning, Wed. 5/19, Murrow's work will be seen during some short 
segments on Good Day NY. Fox Channel 5 NY from 7am to 8:30am.
They will be showing some of the work we've just done on "West Side Story." 
I've been told that they will do a couple of very short promo. spots 
starting at 7 with a short (3 minutes +/-) segment at around 7:45 +/-.
Scott


         Scott C. Parker
         Production Designer/Technical Director
         High School Tech Production Web Site
         hstech~AT~hstech.org

High Schoolers: come visit the HS Tech Web Site... http://www.hstech.org

Our Mission: To assist High School Technical Theater students in their 
desire to learn about, create, and execute theatrical productions.  


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Message-Id: <200405181849.i4IInqeu009689 [at] tshield.longwood.edu>
From: "Paul Schreiner" <schreinerpd [at] longwood.edu>
Subject: Tony Randall, RIP
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 14:49:52 -0400

http://news1.iwon.com/top/article/id/404063|top|05-18-2004::14:27|reuters.ht
ml

Paul Schreiner
Technical Director, Longwood University Theatre  
434.395.2250  
ICQ# 2269284



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Message-ID: <20040518185446.1705.qmail [at] web50602.mail.yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 11:54:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: b Ricie <b_ricie [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Small theatre in Cape Cod...

IMHO Small theaters in Cape Cod are the best place to
be. Cape Cod is also home to the oldest continually
running Summer Stock theatre in the country. If any of
all y-all do make the trip to lil-old Cape Cod your
welcome at my 4th of July party. It runs from the 2nd
to and tru the 7th or so. Beach by day and bon-fire by
night. Bring a tent and I can give you a place to
pitch it.

=====
Brian Rice 
b_ricie [at] yahoo.com


	
		
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Subject: Re: AutoCAD LT
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 14:09:12 -0500
Message-ID: <CABE297E6EA1AC4B914B74D4312C19111A86F3 [at] STCNT01.stagestheatre.org>
From: "Rob Johnson" <rjohnson [at] stagestheatre.org>

Chip,

I taught my self AutoCAD with just the tutorials that come with the
program. I found it easy to understand if I just got away for trying to
figure out how to use it of theatre and learned the program. I was then
able to go back and apply what I learned to making it work for my
application. Also, when I did get a book <Some thing published by
Cadence> I was better able to understand the advanced lessons.

Hope this Helps.

Robert Johnson
Stages Theatre Co.
Hopkins, MN 553430-7552

rjohnson [at] stagestheatre.org


-----Original Message-----
From: Chip Haas [mailto:chaas [at] bsu.edu]=20
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 3:42 PM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: AutoCad LT

For info on subscribing, unsubscribing, and suspending
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Hey there everyone, it sure is great to have the list back.

I will be moving this fall to join the faculty at the University of=20
North Carolina Greensboro and I have a slight problem.  They use=20
AutoCad there and I've only used MacDraft and Vectorworks.  So I'm now=20
trying to learn AutoCad as a summer project.  Anyway, they've shipped=20
me an old computer (okay, not old, but spare) that has AutoCad on it. =20
Do any of y'all have any suggestions for a Learning AutoCad LT for=20
Dummies book or CD tutorials?  I'm pretty proficient with the two=20
programs I know, so I'm reasonably confident that I can get up to speed=20
with AutoCad.

On a sidenote, if there are any TD's out there looking for an excellent=20
opportunity, keep your eyes peeled for the announcement here at Ball=20
State sometime in the fall.  This has been an excellent place to work=20
with top notch faculty and students.  If Muncie just wasn't 12 hours=20
away from the grandparents, I would have stayed here forever (I would=20
like to think).  However the chance to be less than an hour away from=20
one set and 4 hours from the other was too much to pass up.


Chip Haas
Technical Director / Assistant Professor of Theatre
Department of Theatre and Dance
Ball State University
Muncie, IN  47306

765-285-0978

chaas [at] bsu.edu


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From: "Jason" <OneOccy [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Small theatre in Cape Cod...
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 12:21:52 -0700
Message-ID: <BAY7-DAV254SaFMwr9y000062b5 [at] hotmail.com>

Is smoking allowed on the beach?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "b Ricie" <b_ricie [at] yahoo.com>
> 
> IMHO Small theaters in Cape Cod are the best place to
> be. Cape Cod is also home to the oldest continually
> running Summer Stock theatre in the country. If any of
> all y-all do make the trip to lil-old Cape Cod your
> welcome at my 4th of July party. It runs from the 2nd
> to and tru the 7th or so. Beach by day and bon-fire by
> night. Bring a tent and I can give you a place to
> pitch it.
> 
> =====
> Brian Rice 
> b_ricie [at] yahoo.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> __________________________________
> Do you Yahoo!?
> SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price.
> http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/
> 

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Message-Id: <B9FC3A5A-A902-11D8-B0C8-000A958ABBF8 [at] theprices.net>
From: Noah Price <stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net>
Subject: Re: Tony Randall, RIP
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 12:36:58 -0700


On May 18, 2004, at 11:49 AM, Paul Schreiner wrote:

> http://news1.iwon.com/top/article/id/404063|top|05-18-2004::14: 
> 27|reuters.ht
> ml

If you have trouble with that link, beware the line break (make sure  
you get the "ml" at the end).

As a hint for posting long links, if you put the URL in < > many mail  
programs will do a better job of picking out the link when it's broken  
across multiple lines. For example:

<http://news1.iwon.com/top/article/id/404063|top|05-18-2004::14: 
27|reuters.html>

Noah

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Message-ID: <659CC0547BC6D3118B9200508BC270EA035BB5A9 [at] ncsamail.ncarts.edu>
From: "Booth, Dennis" <boothd [at] ncarts.edu>
Subject: OSHA certifications
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 15:27:28 -0400

While OSHA safety training requirements are stated to be for employees,
there's no reason why the same standard can't be applied to students.

Since 1998, OSHA has required safety training and regularly scheduled
evaluations of operators of many types of equipment that we use in our
industry, including industrial powered lift trucks (forklifts) and various
types of personnel lifts. OSHA allows for "Train-the-Trainer" certifications
so that one employee of a company can receive a certification to train
his/her fellow employees, thereby establishing base level safety awareness,
and regularly scheduled safety evaluations, and certifications for
employees.

At NCSA Design and Production, I've taken the tact of acquiring OSHA
"Train-the-Trainer" certifications for myself on personnel lifts
(single-man, scissors, and boom) as well as Sit-down, Counterbalance and
All-terrain Forklifts.  I then offer the OSHA certification training to my
students as part of a class or as needed for specific production work. The
operator's certifications are site-specific and equipment-specific to the
venues that we are working in, but OSHA allows a simple process for off-site
sign-off for other venues and jobsites.  

I also exercise my trainer's certification in order to provide
certifications for my IATSE local's equipment operators. It's a simple
process to give this training, which involves a video presentation,
discussion, a written test, and a practical "skills" test. 

Unlike the operator's certification, the trainer's certification has no
expiration (until the law changes, of course.) In my case, I received the
"Train-the-Trainer" certification from my local industrial equipment rental
outlet that services our equipment. An additional benefit to the training is
that all of our equipment receives a required annual inspection by our
service company, so our equipment stays in good working order.

I feel that my students, as well as our employees, deserve training that
establishes a base level of safety awareness, and the OSHA certification
does exactly that.  

This type of training was developed for industry to help reduce forklift and
personnel lift accidents through effective education. Dr. Doom and our
esteemed ESTA list members, I think it would be a worthwhile effort to
develop these OSHA certifications for climbing wire rope ladders and truss,
among other things, for our own industry.  Dr. Davidson, who do we talk to
at the Federal level?  

DGB

Dennis Gill Booth, Technical Director

  North Carolina School of the Arts 
  School of Design and Production 
  1553 South Main Street 
  PO Box 12189 
  Winston-Salem, NC   27117-2189 

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Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 14:39:09 -0500
From: Chuck Mitchell <chmitche [at] wisc.edu>
Subject: Re: Epoxy question
Message-id: <5.2.1.1.2.20040518143348.00badcd8 [at] wiscmail.wisc.edu>


>
>Has anyone had success with a "good" fast setting epoxy?
>
>I have tried so many "quick" epoxies that ended up not being what I would
>call "quick".  It seems that the stated curing times are more guidelines
>than an actual measures of the time it takes for the material to actually
>harden.  "60 second" epoxies take around 5 - 10 minutes to cure, 5 minute
>epoxy takes around 10 - 15 minute, etc.
>


Two different terms here.  The "minute" epoxies SET, so the pieces stay 
together, often take several minutes more than packages say, but the full 
strength bond, or when the adhesive has CURED, is hours not minutes.  Hard 
use until the joint has cured risks joint failure.

Chuck


Chuck Mitchell
Scene Studio Supervisor
University Theatre - University of Wisconsin-Madison
608-263-3330
FAX 608-265-4075 



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Message-Id: <200405182014.i4IKE9kY022379 [at] tshield.longwood.edu>
From: "Paul Schreiner" <schreinerpd [at] longwood.edu>
Subject: Re: Tony Randall, RIP
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 16:14:08 -0400

> If you have trouble with that link, beware the line break 
> (make sure you get the "ml" at the end).
> 
> As a hint for posting long links, if you put the URL in < > 
> many mail programs will do a better job of picking out the 
> link when it's broken across multiple lines. 

It's tough, though, when one doesn't know one's email is going to get
line-wrapped like that until one gets it back...

Paul Schreiner
Technical Director, Longwood University Theatre  
434.395.2250  
ICQ# 2269284


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Message-ID: <6728517EECE7D511981B00D0B78290310ACCF981 [at] az33exm27.corp.mot.com>
From: Wood Chip-P26398 <Chip.Wood [at] motorola.com>
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Jamming - LA TIMES Story
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 13:16:28 -0700

"... A lot of hospitals use them to prevent cell phones from triggering someone's defibrillator. ..."

"Casinos use jammers to prevent people from cheating using cell phones... "

"The FCC rules are clear," said Travis Larson, spokesman for the international Cellular Telecommunications & Internet Association. "Jamming is illegal, but whether there is an exception made for law enforcement is a decision the FCC will have to make."


OK, which is it?  If they are illegal, how can hospitals and casinos be using them?


From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Alf Sauve

http://www.dailynews.com/cda/article/print/0,1674,200~20954~2136463,00.html

Reference in story to theatres wanting to use the technology.


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Message-ID: <40AA7830.1050400 [at] peak.org>
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 13:55:12 -0700
From: Pat Kight <kightp [at] peak.org>
Subject: Re: Tony Randall, RIP

Paul Schreiner wrote:

>For info on subscribing, unsubscribing, and suspending
>your list subscription, go to the Stagecraft web site at:
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>
>
>  
>
>>If you have trouble with that link, beware the line break 
>>(make sure you get the "ml" at the end).
>>
>>As a hint for posting long links, if you put the URL in < > 
>>many mail programs will do a better job of picking out the 
>>link when it's broken across multiple lines. 
>>    
>>
>
>It's tough, though, when one doesn't know one's email is going to get
>line-wrapped like that until one gets it back...
>

Another option is to use one of the link reduction services, such as

http://www.makeashorterlink.com/

or

http://tinyurl.com/

Takes just a second, and solves all your link-breaking problems forever.

-- 
Pat Kight
kightp [at] peak.org


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Message-ID: <6728517EECE7D511981B00D0B78290310ACCF983 [at] az33exm27.corp.mot.com>
From: Wood Chip-P26398 <Chip.Wood [at] motorola.com>
Subject: Re: sunglasses (was Wal-Mart)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 14:02:36 -0700

You learn the weirdest things here!  I was never concerned about (sun)glasses monopoly, but suddenly now I do.

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Karl G. Ruling
 
That deal is now being scrutinized by regulators because it 
would make Luxottica Group the owner of all the major eyewear stores 
in the USA.  

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Message-ID: <20040518211554.37630.qmail [at] web50607.mail.yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 14:15:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: b Ricie <b_ricie [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Small theatre in Cape Cod...

>Beach by day and bon-fire by
 night

>Is smoking allowed on the beach?


Sorry, I should clarify. The Beach stays the beach at
night, The bon-fire is in my back yard.



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Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20040518142936.02809d90 [at] mail.sdsu.edu>
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 14:43:28 -0700
From: Loren Schreiber <lschreib [at] mail.sdsu.edu>
Subject: Re: Shopping at Home Depot (Was Wal-Mart)

When I shop at Home Depot, I do not expect to receive any help or advice 
for anything. What most of their employees will tell you is often wrong 
anyway. But this just makes those of us who do know hardware and what it's 
for that much more valuable. I often find myself helping out others in the 
aisles--making suggestions or correcting an employee's mis-information.

Even the big box companies aren't long for the world. Something else will 
take their place too, eventually (Internet?). I see the big box stores as 
the non-stellar equivalent of a red giant--inflating until it blows itself 
away. That, or Wal-mart gets so big that there is only ONE store with doors 
in every city.


Loren Schreiber
Director of Technology and Production
School of Theatre, Television and Film
San Diego State University




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From: "Delbert Hall" <halld [at] etsu.edu>
Subject: Outstanding Theatre Programs
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 19:24:04 -0400
Message-ID: <000601c43d2f$36a3acb0$6400a8c0 [at] delbert>

Every year I do flying effects for a number of university theatre
productions, and I have seen many good and bad programs.  So far, this
has been an especially busy year, but fortunately the majority of
theatre programs have been good one.  Recently, I have done work for two
outstanding theatres programs in which members of this list teach.

In April I did ANGELS IN AMERICA with Loren Schreiber at San Diego State
University.  I was there over Easter weekend, so I did not get to meet a
lot of the students, but the ones that I met (mostly graduated students)
were very competent.  Loren does a lot with automation and this
production had four automated track systems.  In addition, one grad
student had built a hydraulic elevator for the show, and another had
built a pneumatic lift into a bed.  The students' work was fairly
sophisticated.  Loren had also built articulating wings for the angels
that were pneumatically powered.  They were very nice.  It was great
working with Loren.

Just a few weeks ago I had the opportunity to work with Steve Waxler at
the Cincinnati Conservatory of Music on the opera HANSEL AND GRETEL.  I
was not familiar with this program but I have come to believe that it
may be one of the finest production programs in the country.  They
quality of the work (construction, automation, scenic painting, etc.)
was truly outstanding.  What impressed me most was the professionalism
of the students.  The students were polite, listened intently to my
directions, did not talk among themselves during rehearsals, and ran the
system flawlessly. I also got to see how well the shop ran. Even more
impressive than the load-in and rehearsals, was the strike this past
Sunday.  When I arrived at the theatre there were approximately 30
students, all dressed completely in black (except for their white hard
hats) striking the set.  What was amazing was how quietly they worked
(no yelling, no crashing scenery, very little noise at all).  No one was
standing around watching or waiting for someone else to do something;
they were all working as if the strike had be choreographed and
rehearsed many times.  They were also one of most efficient crews that I
have ever seen.  The huge set came down at an incredible pace.  They
took down my rig, packed it, and had it in my truck in record time. I
believe that the quality of the students is a direct reflection of the
quality of the instruction, and therefore I have to commend Steve and
his staff. I highly recommend the Cincinnati Conservatory of Music to
anyone student (graduate or undergraduate) who is looking for a truly
professional education.

Just my opinion.

-Delbert


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From: MissWisc [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <32.4824e705.2ddbfab3 [at] aol.com>
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 19:48:03 EDT
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Jamming - LA TIMES Story
Cc: Chip.Wood [at] motorola.com

In a message dated 5/18/4 3:26:51 PM, Chip.Wood [at] motorola.com wrote:
<<OK, which is it?  If they are illegal, how can hospitals and casinos be 
using them?>>

I'm not certain about hospitals, but in my area of the USA, casinos are the 
"property" of the Native American nation which owns them and thus are 
considered to be sovereign in their own right. In other words, they are a legal country 
unto themselves and can make their own laws within the framework of their 
treaty with the USA.  

More recently imformed legal minds can let us know if it's still true, but it 
used to be that because they are a sovereign nation, you can't sue them in 
the US court system without their permission. (Then again, not all the tribes 
are recognized as sovereign by the US feds... a whole 'nuther topic.) I.e., you 
may have a contract with the tribe, but the courts aren't able to help you in 
making certain the terms are met.  

See what we learn from each other! :)

Kristi
http://www.marykay.com/kross-clausen

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Message-Id: <p06100500bcd066736080 [at] [168.192.123.250]>
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 21:19:35 -0400
From: Rigger <rigger [at] tds.net>
Subject: Re: Tony Randall, RIP

At 12:36 PM -0700 5/18/04, Noah Price wrote:

>  As a hint for posting long links, if you put the URL in < >
>  many mail programs will do a better job of picking out the
>  link when it's broken across multiple lines.


Or alternately, run the humongous URL through <http://www.tinyurl.com>.

-- 
Dave Vick, IATSE #274
   Head Electrician,
   The Wharton Center for Performing Arts at Michigan State University
   <http://www.whartoncenter.com/>

    Carpe Per Diem

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From: Bsapsis [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <1df.20dc171e.2ddc1330 [at] aol.com>
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 21:32:32 EDT
Subject: Re: OSHA certifications


In a message dated 5/18/04 3:47:17 PM, boothd [at] ncarts.edu writes:

<< This type of training was developed for industry to help reduce forklift 
and
personnel lift accidents through effective education. Dr. Doom and our
esteemed ESTA list members, I think it would be a worthwhile effort to
develop these OSHA certifications for climbing wire rope ladders and truss,
among other things, for our own industry.  Dr. Davidson, who do we talk to
at the Federal level?   >>

Dennis.  You make many salient points in your post.  However, I would like to 
suggest that rather than talk to the Federal government, you should talk to 
the folks at ESTA who are involved in developing standards and certification 
for a wide range of job descriptions and products.  The Federal Government is 
not in the business of training everyone how to do their jobs safely.  Take Fall 
Arrest, for example.  They have excellent rules and regulations for this 
area, but they do not offer a certification on any level.  they do not conduct 
classes in fall arrest but leave that to a select few companies in the private 
sector.  to my knowledge there hasn't been a fall arrest class ion the last 4 - 
5 years, at least not on the east coast, primarily due
lack of response (ie..interest)

When you check into ESTA <ESTA.org> you will discover that they (we) have 
written a standard for wire rope ladders that not only describe how to build and 
install one, but also specifically states the need for a fall arrest system 
when climbing one.  There are many more standards in the works and several types 
of certification being worked on.  Check 'em out.  Hey, it's your/our 
organization after all.

Be well
Bill S.


Sapsis Rigging, Inc.
www.sapsis-rigging.com
800.727.7471
800.292.3851 fax
We stand behind, and under, our work.


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Message-ID: <001f01c43d3b$df356600$40edbed0 [at] hppav>
From: "Joe Meils" <bipolarber [at] cyberback.com>
Subject: Re: Shopping at Home Depot (Was Wal-Mart)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 19:54:41 -0500

    Sort of like that old Arch Obler script: "The Chicken Heart." LOL It
just keep growing until the Earth is consumed...

Joe


I see the big box stores as
> the non-stellar equivalent of a red giant--inflating until it blows itself
> away. That, or Wal-mart gets so big that there is only ONE store with
doors
> in every city.



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Message-ID: <20040519022942.88068.qmail [at] web50606.mail.yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 19:29:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: b Ricie <b_ricie [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: repainting a muslin backdrop

 The thing I worry about more than crcaking with this
repaint, is will
> the wrinkles be visible? If you had a couple days to
let it set, 
everything
> would be fine... but if this is for a travelling
show, how can you 
fold
> without obvious creases?


Always fold Bottom to top , bottom to top, till the
size is right to travel. Then fold from the sides to
the middle sides to middle remembering to leave an
adequate hinge. When you re-hang the drop be sure to
put bottom pipe in and let it hang off the floor for a
bit. All that usually takes care of any creases,
however the persistent ones can be remedied by the
warm water spritzing. Horizontal creases will hang out
it is the vertical creases that cause the problems. 

=====
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Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 23:30:07 -0700
From: Steve Swaddling <swaddling [at] shaw.ca>
Subject: Spinning Flats
Message-id: <003e01c43d6a$ba5bc2a0$f69b5118 [at] STEVE>

I am constructing 12 1'X8' flats which will rotate on a center axis. The set
is painted on both sides and when the change occurs each 1' panel will
rotate. I am trying to find out what angle I need to make the sides of the
panels so they rotate without catching on each others edges. So the pieces
would look like this:

      XXXXXXXXX    XXXXXXX
    XXXXXXXX    XXXXXXXX
  XXXXXXX    XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXX    XXXXXXXXXX
Flat 1        Flat 2
Anyone know the angle?


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