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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #16

 1. Re: Setting up Vector works drawings
    by "Kacey Fisher" <Kacey [at] FisherTheatrical.com>
 2. Re: Shopping at Home Depot (Was Wal-Mart)
    by Bruce Purdy <bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
 3. Position Announcement:
    by Michael Powers <mfpowers [at] theater.umass.edu>
 4. Digest "back issues" available
    by Noah Price <stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net>
 5. Re: email tracking    was: Jamming inside Theatres
    by "Brian Busch" <BPBusch [at] techie.com>
 6. Re: email tracking    was: Jamming inside Theatres
    by Herrick <Herrick [at] hglightingdesign.com>
 7. Re: Shopping at Home Depot (Was Wal-Mart)
    by "Delbert Hall" <halld [at] etsu.edu>
 8. Circus performer dies in fall
    by "Delbert Hall" <halld [at] etsu.edu>
 9. Re: Circus performer dies in fall - oops
    by "Delbert Hall" <halld [at] etsu.edu>
10. Re: Shopping at Home Depot (Was Wal-Mart)
    by Richard Niederberg <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
11. Re: Setting up Vector works drawings
    by Brian Aldous <brian [at] tany.com>
12. Re: Setting up Vector works drawings
    by "C. Andrew Dunning" <cad [at] landrudesign.com>

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From: "Kacey Fisher" <Kacey [at] FisherTheatrical.com>
Subject: Re: Setting up Vector works drawings
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 10:29:15 -0400
Message-ID: <HIELJPEOIEHEFGLKMKMJCEACDAAA.Kacey [at] FisherTheatrical.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-3471755 [at] prxy.net>


C. Andrew Dunning wrote:
>
> First thing, change your thinking slightly.  For the sake of learning:
> VW Classes = AC Layers
> VW Classes = separate sheets of paper w. (potentially) different scales.
> This may be a bit over-simplified, but this mindset has helped me to make
> the transition.
>

I think you may have meant VW LAYERS = separate sheets of paper w.
(potentially) different scales??

Now, I have no experience with VW 11 because I was a bad beta tester-having
a 1 year old doesn't leave you a lot of time to beta test!  Anyhow, I
usually set up my drawings like this:

Ground Plan/Space Layer- basically the walls and the stage, etc. (This is
handy if you are working in the same space over and over because you can
delete out other layers and create a template with just the theatre)
Scenic Ground Plan-whatever the set is for the show (this may turn into
multiple layers for a show with multiple settings for each act.)
Lighting Plot Layer-this includes all my instrumentation and lighting
positions.  I used to put positions in the Ground Plan/Space Layer, but with
the lighting position object in Spotlight, that didn't work out so well.

Those are the basic layers I work with.

Then in terms of classes:
On the Ground Plan/Space Layer I'll work within the Soft Goods Class so I
can turn curtains on and off
Scenic Ground Plan could have any number of classes from windows, doors, to
platforms, etc.
Then I set up lighting classes that might come in handy-sometimes I will put
all of one system of light in its own class.  This can become tedious, so I
don't do it unless it's an especially large or complicated plot and I need
to turn a class off to see/not see stuff. I also got into this habit when
Spotlight first came out and was running very slowly.  It was handy to turn
stuff on and off to speed up screen re-draw time.

So, the way I think of it, Layers are your general categories and classes
are more specific.  I have no experience with AutoCAD, so I'm sorry I can't
relate it to paper space etc.  But, I hope that gives you a basic idea of
one way to work with layers and classes.

~Kacey



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Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 12:44:12 -0400
Subject: Re: Shopping at Home Depot (Was Wal-Mart)
From: Bruce Purdy <bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
Message-ID: <BCD64D1C.359D%bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-3475890 [at] prxy.net>

> Bruce - I think Wal-Mart does have a social conscience.  I know for a
> fact that my Wal-Mart gives lots of money to local schools and
> organizations, as well as college scholarships to local students.

Delbert,

    You make a good point, and I concede that Wal-Mart does put a bit back
into the community. How much comes from social conscience though, and how
much is PR to offset "Anti-Wal-Mart" feelings in the community is debatable.

    As I responded to another post, the Big Boxes seem to whittle away over
time at their initial promises. I'd be curious as to how long after a new
Wal-Mart opens their grants and scholarships start to diminish and then fade
away. I may be wrong - and I hope that I am.

Bruce
-- 
Bruce Purdy
Technical Director
Smith Opera House



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Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 14:27:21 -0400
From: Michael Powers <mfpowers [at] theater.umass.edu>
Subject: Position Announcement:
Message-id: <40B0ED09.1070009 [at] theater.umass.edu>

Position Announcement:

Due to illness, the Property Master position at The Pioneer Valley 
Summer Theatre has become available.
The Pioneer Valley Summer Theatre (PVST) is a small equity, one week 
stock company located in historic
Easthampton, Massachusetts.  For more information about the theatre go to: 

http://www.summertheatre.net/

Starting date is June 16th through August 25.  Salary is negotiable and
Commensurate to experience but does include full room and board. 
Applicants must have their own transportation for shopping, mileage is 
reimbursed.

Interested applicants, asap, please contact:

Susan Daniels, Artistic Director
SGDaniels [at] aol.com


Please don't contact me, Contact Susan Daniels, artistic Director.,
I'm just designing a couple of the shows there, I don't hire or fire.

-- 
Michael

Michael Powers, Technical Director
U Mass-Amherst, Dept. of Theatre
112 Fine Arts Center West
151 Presidents Drive Ofc 2
Amherst, MA 01003-9331
 
Phone:  413-545-6821
Fax:    413-577-0025
<http://www.umass.edu/theater/> 

mfpowers [at] theater.umass.edu
mptecdir [at] aol.com




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Message-Id: <70DC37A5-ACFD-11D8-8924-000A958ABBF8 [at] theprices.net>
From: Noah Price <stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net>
Subject: Digest "back issues" available
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 14:09:12 -0700

Some of you have wanted to get issues of the digest from the server, 
which the new server doesn't support. To allow you to get past issues, 
I've put them up on the web site for download:

      <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/digest/>

Just like them message archives, all email addresses are obscured to 
avoid the spam-bots!

If you got the first couple digests in "MIME" format and were unable to 
read them, you can download them from the web site. I got rid of the 
extra headers in the posted versions.

Thanks,

Noah

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From: "Brian Busch" <BPBusch [at] techie.com>
Subject: Re: email tracking    was: Jamming inside Theatres
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 20:06:53 -0400
Message-ID: <001401c44123$05768250$0200a8c0 [at] trinity>
In-Reply-To: <list-3469359 [at] prxy.net>

While blocking tracking mechanisms at the firewall or router level is
probably your best bet, you have now blocked all access to their website
and having messages of your own tracked as well. For a low-tech solution
or for those of us who do not have firewalls or routers, simply download
your email and disconnect your internet connection. This is similar to
how the original Juno email used to work- your connection was only live
long enough to download your mail and then you could peruse at your
leisure. As long as you've opened and closed the email before the
internet connection is restored, you're in good shape. Furthermore,
their claim that the tracking is undetectable is false as it only takes
one quick look at the message headers to see if rampellsoft.com is
present to know if you're being watched. Armed with that knowledge it is
easy to create a filter that funnels all tracked email to a special
folder for later inspection. Didtheyreadit.com's product is
frighteningly fast though, check it out. Use the five free messages to
test the security method of your choice.

Brian Busch



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Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 20:19:11 -0400
Subject: Re: email tracking    was: Jamming inside Theatres
From: Herrick <Herrick [at] hglightingdesign.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-3479260 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <FB13D8CD-AD17-11D8-9F49-0003934521EC [at] hglightingdesign.com>

Did they read it has been slightly debunked on slashdot.com


<http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/05/23/ 
2146200&mode=thread&tid=126&tid=137&tid=158&tid=215&tid=95&tid=99>



On Sunday, May 23, 2004, at 20:06 America/New_York, Brian Busch wrote:
>  Didtheyreadit.com's product is
> frighteningly fast though, check it out. Use the five free messages to
> test the security method of your choice.
>
> Brian Busch
>
>
>
>
Herrick Goldman
Lighting Designer, NYC
www.HGLightingDesign.com

"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and  
in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS


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From: "Delbert Hall" <halld [at] etsu.edu>
Subject: Re: Shopping at Home Depot (Was Wal-Mart)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 22:25:11 -0400
Organization: ETSU
Message-ID: <000201c44136$581ea7e0$6400a8c0 [at] delbert>
In-Reply-To: <list-3477269 [at] prxy.net>

Bruce,

Let's talk a bout a few other "national" companies, that many of us
frequent, which have stores in most cities: Sears, Granger, and Ace
Hardware, to name just three.  Because these companies purchase in large
quantities, just as Wal-Mart does, they have the ability to sell for
less than "mom and pop" stores.  Do these big companies drive out some
local stores?  Sure they do, so why are they not being condemned the
same way as Wal-Mart?  From what I have seen, these companies give back
far less to their communities than Wal-Mart.  Shouldn't these companies
be held to the same standard that you want from Wal-Mart?  In my area
Wal-Mart, Target, and a few car local dealership seem to be some of the
major businesses that give grants and scholarships to high schools and
their students.

I am not saying the Wal-Mart is perfect, just that they are not as black
as some people would like to paint them.

-Delbert


-----Original Message-----


Delbert,

    You make a good point, and I concede that Wal-Mart does put a bit
back
into the community. How much comes from social conscience though, and
how
much is PR to offset "Anti-Wal-Mart" feelings in the community is
debatable.

    As I responded to another post, the Big Boxes seem to whittle away
over
time at their initial promises. I'd be curious as to how long after a
new
Wal-Mart opens their grants and scholarships start to diminish and then
fade
away. I may be wrong - and I hope that I am.

Bruce
-- 
Bruce Purdy
Technical Director
Smith Opera House




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From: "Delbert Hall" <halld [at] etsu.edu>
Subject: Circus performer dies in fall
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 22:36:32 -0400
Organization: ETSU
Message-ID: <000301c44137$ecf0d770$6400a8c0 [at] delbert>
In-Reply-To: <list-3477269 [at] prxy.net>


A Ringling Bros. tissue performer fell to her death Saturday in St.
Paul.  Here is what CNN had on their web site:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Midwest/05/23/circus.accident/index.html

For those of you who are not familiar with circus acts, all tissue
performers that I know supply their own apparatus, and most rig it
themselves.  Hall Associates, Inc. does this type of rigging for some
performers (in fact we rigged a tissue act on May 1 in Atlanta), so we
are very interested in finding out what when wrong on Saturday. From
what was in the CNN report, it seems that it may have been an problem,
but the article does not give enough details to really say for certain.
Keith may be able to learn more and fill us in.

-Delbert


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From: "Delbert Hall" <halld [at] etsu.edu>
Subject: Re: Circus performer dies in fall - oops
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 22:55:13 -0400
Organization: ETSU
Message-ID: <000b01c4413a$898415a0$6400a8c0 [at] delbert>
In-Reply-To: <list-3479860 [at] prxy.net>

I have added the missing word "equipment" in the corrected sentence
below.


From what was in the CNN report, it seems that it may have been an
EQUIPMENT problem, but the article does not give enough details to
really say for certain.



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Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 20:20:07 -0700
Subject: Re: Shopping at Home Depot (Was Wal-Mart)
Message-ID: <20040523.202013.3748.1.ladesigners [at] juno.com>
From: Richard Niederberg <ladesigners [at] juno.com>

        Also made available are abandoned large commercial spaces for
minimal rent or sales price in neighborhoods. These can be transformed
into stage theatres. Unfortunately, the loss of too many businesses in an
area also diminishes the amount of patrons to buy tickets at these new
theatres.
/s/ Richard

> Big Boxes seem to whittle away over time <snip>
> Bruce

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Message-Id: <E39C2E05-AD37-11D8-A097-000A95EE4F20 [at] tany.com>
From: Brian Aldous <brian [at] tany.com>
Subject: Re: Setting up Vector works drawings
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 00:07:36 -0400


> Setting up Vector works drawings

Everyone has their preferred method - one of the nice things about 
Vectorworks is that there are usually several different ways to do 
something.  I tend to use many levels on a plot (one for each floor of 
theatre architecture, then scenery, moving linesets, fixed positions, 
rep plot, specials,  circuit & twofer layout, elevations, scenic 
details - whatever. My line to students is the usual : "Classes are 
kinds of things, layers are containers for putting things into."). I 
then make use of the "sheet" saving function to move back and forth 
easily between different combinations of active layers & classes.  Each 
sheet is like a different plate. Your printer will render whatever 
"saved sheet" you have open when you send the document to print.

BA


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From: "C. Andrew Dunning" <cad [at] landrudesign.com>
Subject: Re: Setting up Vector works drawings
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 04:10:47 -0500
Organization: Landru Design
In-Reply-To: <list-3476798 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <E1BSBU0-0006z9-00 [at] starling.mail.pas.earthlink.net>

Kacey -

>I think you may have meant VW LAYERS = separate sheets of paper w.
>(potentially) different scales??

You are correct.  Too bad Outlook doesn't have a "dummy" check along w. its
spell-check.

I've seen a bunch of VW user work the way that you do - major divisions on
layers and more specific in classes.  I've chosen not to work that way
because it makes 3D work more difficult and 99.9% of my work is either
hybrid or 3D.

Regards -

C. Andrew Dunning
Landru Design
-
Nashville, TN
-
cad [at] landrudesign.com
www.landrudesign.com



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