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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #31

 1. Re: said Tom.
    by "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
 2. Re: Third Rail Myth
    by Bruce Purdy <bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
 3. Re: Third Rail Myth
    by Richard Niederberg <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
 4. Re: plea about format!!!!
    by Noah Price <stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net>
 5. Re: plea about format!!!!
    by "Tony Deeming" <deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com>
 6. Video signal routing
    by "pete quinlan" <peterequinlan [at] hotmail.com>
 7. Re: Video signal routing
    by Benjamin Eastep <shifting [at] shifting.ca>
 8. Re: Video signal routing
    by Michael Feinberg <michaelf [at] joyce.eng.yale.edu>

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From: "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>
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Subject: Re: said Tom.
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2004 03:15:33 -1000

<<"Resistance is futile!" said Tom ominously.>>

Erm...

"We went to Radio Shack and ate all their resistors", said Tom ominously.

Laters,

Paul

"Watt?  My current position is that anyone who ampheres our work will be
sent ohm and hopefully will di of ode age.  Now turn this thing on!" said
Tom with delight

Lates,

Paul



  "Once upon a time there was a beautiful princess," Tom began grimly.


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Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 10:47:52 -0400
Subject: Re: Third Rail Myth
From: Bruce Purdy <bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
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> I caught two female high school students giggling while 'vandalizing' the
> aforementioned equipment in the aforementioned manner.
<Snip>
> but did not inform the campus police of
> their transgression. We need all the ADA that we can get!
> /s/ Richard

    Great story, but I don't understand the "Americans with Disabilities
Act" relevance. (Or is this a different ADA?)

Bruce
-- 
Bruce Purdy
Technical Director
Smith Opera House



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Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2004 09:38:34 -0700
Subject: Re: Third Rail Myth
Message-ID: <20040605.093840.2516.0.ladesigners [at] juno.com>
From: Richard Niederberg <ladesigners [at] juno.com>

In primary and secondary school context, ADA=Average Daily Attendance. If
you expel the kids, the school/school district gets less state funds.
/s/ Richard

> > We need all the ADA that we can get!
> > /s/ Richard

> Great story, but I don't understand the "Americans with 
> Disabilities Act" relevance. (Or is this a different ADA?)
> Bruce

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Subject: Re: plea about format!!!!
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2004 10:50:38 -0700


On Jun 4, 2004, at 9:37 AM, Booth, Dennis wrote:

> No complaints, really, Noah.  Just suggestions!

Didn't mean that to come across so negatively :-)  Yes, suggestions is 
a better word!

I've got improvements in the works for many of the suggestions I've 
seen so far, but keep 'em coming... I can only fix what I know needs 
fixin' ;-)

> Thanks for all you do, brother.

Thanks!

Noah

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Subject: Re: plea about format!!!!
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 00:06:21 +0100


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Judy" <kupfer [at] post.tau.ac.il>
To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 3:03 PM
Subject: plea about format!!!!


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>
> PLEASE, PLEASE, would it be possible to put the number of the message
> before the message? The digest form of the list used to be that way.
> Then, if out of 47 messages when you were in a hurry and you only wanted
> to read number 35, you didn't have to wade through 34 others till you
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>

Hmm.....
If you just want to read each thread as an individual 'story' why not just
'sort by subject'....?

Ynot



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From: "pete quinlan" <peterequinlan [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: Video signal routing
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 13:19:19 +0800
Message-ID: <BAY19-F32Rylzxc8Mir000105e7 [at] hotmail.com>

Hello all,
I am trying to find a rack mountable video switcher capable of taking inputs 
from cameras a computer and a dvd/vcr .  Does anyone know of one or where to 
start looking?
regards
Pete Quinlan

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Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2004 23:43:40 -0600
Subject: Re: Video signal routing
Message-ID: <20040606054340.GA19686 [at] shifting.ca>
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From: Benjamin Eastep <shifting [at] shifting.ca>

> Hello all,
> I am trying to find a rack mountable video switcher capable of taking 
> inputs from cameras a computer and a dvd/vcr .  Does anyone know of one or 
> where to start looking?
> regards
> Pete Quinlan
>
What sort of signal are you pulling off the computer?  When projecting
computer feeds (if that's what you have this in mind for), generally you
want to run the VGA signal off the computer, (or DVI?) not a composite or
any of the signals you can pull off your cameras and dvd/vcrs.  Since VGA is
a different cable, signal type, and socket on the projector, its hard imagine
that signal going through any compatable switching device.  Now of course,
many newer video cards can ouput a composite signal, but the picture quality
is generally somewhat lacking, due to the resolution conversion.  

Many projectors will autoselect sources when only one source is available,
so it may be possible to run both VGA and video out to the projector, and
then simply send it whichever signal is appropriate (using a switcher to
choose sources on the video feed)

of course, for all I know, you are doing something else completely and my
comments on projectors are completely irrelevant.


Ben Eastep


-- 
Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings.
(German: "Dort, wo man Bücher verbrennt, verbrennt man am Ende auch
Menschen.)Heinrich Heine, from his play Almansor (1821)

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Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 01:52:25 -0400
From: Michael Feinberg <michaelf [at] joyce.eng.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: Video signal routing

>I am trying to find a rack mountable video switcher capable of 
>taking inputs from cameras a computer and a dvd/vcr .  Does anyone 
>know of one or where to start looking?
>regards

You first have to figure out what type of signals you're switching. 
Cameras are typically composite (1 wire) or Y/C (2 wires).  DVD 
players will typically have both of those plus component (3 wire). 
Computer outputs are now almost universally RGBHV (5 wire) though 
some video cards also have composite and Y/C outputs to display on a 
television.  When connecting a computer to an external system, a box 
known as a 'computer interface' is used to buffer the output and to 
give you a connection point for a local monitor.

If your display only has a single input, you'll need to adapt the 
signals to that type and then route them into a switcher of the 
appropriate type.  If it has multiple inputs, you might be able to 
use it as a switcher or only use a smaller switcher (i.e. run the DVD 
player into a Y/C input and run several cameras through a composite 
switcher into a composite input)

To convert a composite, Y/C, or component signal to RGBHV you need 
what is called a 'scaler'.  To go the other direction, you need a 
'scan converter'.  To go from composite to Y/C and vice versa, you 
need a transcoder.  That terminology should help with your search.

The other thing to check for is connectors: composite is typically a 
single RCA or BNC connector; Y/C 2 BNCs or 1 miniDIN-4; component 3 
RCA connectors; and RGBHV 1 HD15 connector or 5 BNC connectors. 
Within a single type you only need mechanical adapters.

There are many manufacturers of the above converters and of video 
switchers for various signals.  For top-end pro gear, look at 
http://www.extron.com.  For less expensive but still extremely 
reliable equipment, try http://www.kramerus.com.  Both also 
manufacturer switchers that have integral scalers, so that all of the 
inputs are then output as RGBHV.

Let me know if you have more questions, or give us more information 
so we can recommend a more specific product.

-Michael Feinberg, CTS

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