Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.1.8 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #36 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 03:01:06 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #36 1. Re: The Future is now... by "Paul Guncheon" 2. Re: Lamp Warming by Steve Larson 3. Re: Lamp Warming by Steve Larson 4. Re: The Future is now... by Rigger 5. Re: S/N (was I'm cranky tonight) by Mick Alderson 6. A Great Opportunity for the right individual by "Ehrenberg, Steven" 7. Re: A Great Opportunity for the right individual by "Paul Schreiner" 8. Re: Video Projector by Bruce Purdy 9. Searching for a TD by Chip Haas 10. Re: S/N (was Re: I'm cranky tonight) by Bruce Purdy 11. Re: S/N (was Re: I'm cranky tonight) by "Storms, Randy" 12. Re: S/N (was Re: I'm cranky tonight) by Haagen Trey P Civ 34 TRW/SDAT 13. Re: Grandmaster Faders by Brian Aldous 14. Re: S/N (was Re: I'm cranky tonight) by "Paul Schreiner" 15. Re: Grandmaster Faders by Rigger 16. Brail Sign Question by "Hofmann, Christopher" 17. Re: Brail Sign Question by Pat Kight 18. Board cover question (was Grandmaster Faders) by "Hofmann, Christopher" 19. Re: Brail Sign Question by Rigger 20. Re: Board cover question (was Grandmaster Faders) by "Sarah Clausen" 21. Re: Brail Sign Question by Mike Brubaker 22. Re: Lamp Warming by Jerry Durand 23. Re: Braille Sign Question by "Paul Schreiner" 24. Deck for sale by Cosmo Catalano 25. Re: Board cover question (was Grandmaster Faders) by Steve Bailey 26. by Michael Powers 27. Re: Lamp Warming by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 28. Re: S/N (was Re: I'm cranky tonight) by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 29. Re: S/N (was Re: I'm cranky tonight) by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 30. Re: Lamp Warming by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 31. Not About Nightingales by "John Gibilisco" 32. S/N (was: I'm cranky tonight) by CB 33. Re: The Future is now... by Stuart Wheaton 34. Re: No Subject by Bsapsis [at] aol.com 35. Re: Pit Nets by Stuart Wheaton 36. NYC High School Tech JOBS by "Scott C. Parker" 37. Re: No Subject by Josh Ratty 38. Re: Rings (warning: almost completely OT) by "Big Fred Schoening" 39. Re: Lamp Warming (Was Re: Grandmasters) by Steeve Vajk 40. Re: The Future is now... NOISE :) by MissWisc [at] aol.com 41. Re: The Future is now... NOISE :) by "Jon Ares" 42. Re: S/N (was: I'm cranky tonight) by Kate Daly 43. Re: S/N (was Re: I'm cranky tonight) by Charlie Richmond 44. Re: S/N (was: I'm cranky tonight) by "Tony Deeming" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <007f01c44e1f$08993eb0$0202a8c0 [at] MyLastPC> From: "Paul Guncheon" References: Subject: Re: The Future is now... Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 02:41:05 -1000 <> Mi ji ghaj mia wij vad por vad. Haven't you? Laters, Paul "What's this black stain round my mouth?" asked Tom succinctly. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:10:28 -0400 Subject: Re: Lamp Warming From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Actually I have a friend who come in to light a couple of shows a year separate from those mentioned. His lighting designs are marvelous, however, he turns on the board and everything goes to 100%- BAM! That blows lamps. Steve on 6/8/04 9:55 PM, StevevETTrn [at] aol.com at StevevETTrn [at] aol.com wrote: > For info on subscribing, unsubscribing, and suspending > your list subscription, go to the Stagecraft web site at: > http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ > --------------------------------------------------- > > > Steve writes: >> I change about 5-10 lamps a year. >> Because of the size of the space I rarely have to run intensities >> on the main acting lights above 65%. > > It is likely that the low number of lamps changed in a year have more to do > with the 65% intensities than the preheating routine. By running the lamps > that low you are essentially derating them and the lamp life increases > significantly. I have patched some difficult to reach fixtures to only go up > to 95% to > reduce the number of lamp changes required. > > As a side note, if you are rarely run intensities over 65%, all of your > colors will be shifted more toward amber. Might want to consider going to > lower > wattage lamps for improved color rendition. If there are some spots that > needs > to be brighter, you can up lamp just those as needed. > > Steve Vanciel > Orlando, FL > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:11:50 -0400 Subject: Re: Lamp Warming From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Might want to consider going to lower > wattage lamps for improved color rendition. What a give up my 575s. Don't think so. \Steve ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 09:29:18 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: The Future is now... At 2:41 AM -1000 6/9/04, Paul Guncheon wrote: > Mi ji ghaj mia wij vad por vad. > Haven't you? Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..... Yeah. Or no. Or whatever. Hungh? -- Dave Vick, IATSE #274 Head Electrician, The Wharton Center for Performing Arts at Michigan State University Carpe Per Diem ------------------------------ Message-ID: <40C72C2F.4010703 [at] uwosh.edu> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:26:39 -0500 From: Mick Alderson Subject: Re: S/N (was I'm cranky tonight) At 03:37 AM 6/8/2004, David Duffy wrote: >>BTW, was the S/N ratio of this list always so poor or just since it's been >>back? I've noticed the Noise on the List tends to go up when people are between shows and the Signal goes up when there are shows going on. The List happened to come back in the gap between end-of-"regular-season" and beginning of summer-season shows. I expect (hope) the S/N ratio will greatly improve in about a week or two. -- Mick Alderson TD, Fredric March Theatre Univ. of Wis. Oshkosh ------------------------------ Subject: A Great Opportunity for the right individual Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 10:32:08 -0500 Message-ID: <12B3596D3274A944920E4B5AAFE8B19F052F1693 [at] SATMAIL07.usa.ccu.clearchannel.com> From: "Ehrenberg, Steven" To the list - I'm passing this along in the hope that some of you may be interested in this position or know others who might be. Please do not contact me directly concerning this, just follow the instructions at the end of the job posting. Hope this helps someone find their niche. Steven Steven Ehrenberg Director of Technical Supervision Clear Channel Entertainment - Theatrical Office 917 421 5461 Mobile 917 331 0207 The Broward Center For The Performing Arts located in Downtown Fort Lauderdale, Florida is seeking a Master Audio Engineer for our 2700 seat theater. This position requires excellent technical knowledge in sound, supervision of crew, and providing customer service to ensure a positive experience for all associated artists and users with events. =20 General duties and responsibilities include, but are not limited to: * Provide the highest quality of technical knowledge, specializing in sound/audio for Broadway, concerts, acoustic performances, comedians. * Excellent ability to mix multi-zone sound system, rigging speaker cluster points, tie in power, communication systems, understand microphone types/application, wireless, time delay, distribution systems, video, closed circuit television and any other task related to operating the sound department. * Ability to manage a crew. * Repair and maintenance of sound equipment including speakers, amplifiers, mixing console, communication systems, etc. * Provide support for each show's technical demands in all areas of theater including electrics, carpentry and props. * Must uphold the highest level of professionalism to ensure a positive experience for all associated. Required Skills and Experience: * Able to work nights, weekends, and holidays. * Able to work long hours. * Able to prioritize, multi task and function in a fast paced environment. * At least 5 years sound experience. * Have excellent customer service and communication skills. * Able to work independently and as a team. * Able to handle physical effort by lifting at least 50 lbs overhead, walking, standing, climbing, working at heights of 90 feet, unloading trucks, and any other requirement. If you are an individual with outstanding skills who is eager to become part of a progressive, performance oriented team, please submit a resume and a list of references (3 minimum) by July 2, 2004 to: soundsearch [at] browardcenter.org or by mail to: Broward Center for the Performing Arts, 201 Southwest Fifth Avenue, Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33312-7112 Attn: Sound Search (Resumes should be Word document attachment to e-mail, or mail only please) or by fax at (954) 468-3315. No Phone Calls Please. PACA encourages minority participation and is an Equal Opportunity Employer. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <200406091547.i59Fl31R028059 [at] webmail.longwood.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" Subject: Re: A Great Opportunity for the right individual Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 11:47:03 -0400 In-Reply-To: > Hope this helps someone find their niche. > > The Broward Center For The Performing Arts located in > Downtown Fort Lauderdale, Florida is seeking a Master Audio > Engineer for our 2700 seat theater. Having had the opportunity to spend a couple of days at the Broward Center a few years ago (small bus-n-truck tour), I'd like to say that the staff there is one of the finest groups of people I've ever had the pleasure of working with. It's a wonderful facility, and the atmosphere is incredible in terms of both professional-ness (?) and friendliness. Whomever gets this job is going to have a blast, I'm certain. Paul Schreiner Technical Director, Longwood University Theatre 434.395.2250 ICQ# 2269284 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 12:00:15 -0400 Subject: Re: Video Projector From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: >> I was just saying last night that painted drops are going to be history in >> less than twenty years > > Yeah, just like those who predicted that by 2000 we would be working 12 > hours a week while robots cleaned our homes, commuting in nuclear powered > helicopters and using free electricity. ;-) Well ..... I won't speak to the free electricity or helicopters, but if you combine all the laid off workers with those that have jobs, perhaps the *average* workweek in America might not be too far off of that 12 hours ??? As for "Robots cleaning our homes", check out: http://www.roombavac.com/homepage.asp Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Chip Haas Subject: Searching for a TD Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 11:35:04 -0500 Ball State University's Department of Theatre and Dance is looking for a one year replacement TD. The job will be responsible for teaching two stagecraft classes in the fall and teaching one in the Spring. The position will teach a second class in the spring (I was going to be teaching the Vectorworks class) depending upon qualifications (might be a second stagecraft as well). Show responsibilities will be TD / Sound Supervision for two mainstage productions (Grapes of Wrath and Comedy of Errors in the Fall / Philadelphia Story and Anything Goes in the Spring) and one dance concert each semester; Sound Supervision for the Studio productions (Bat Boy and The Shape of Things in the Fall / Love's Fire and Original Script in the Spring. The department has about 360 theatre and dance majors, of which about 30-35 are design/tech option (about 20-25 are really involved). Facilities are decent, budgets are decent. The shop has an excellent full-time shop supervisor (I wouldn't have survived without John) and a pretty good student employment budget. I had about 10 kids working for me. If you want more information contact Bill Jenkins, Dept Chair at 765-285-8740 or wjenkins [at] bsu.edu Feel free to contact me if you want more detailed information. The only reason I'm leaving here is my wife and I are from the Southeast and we are moving back to be much closer to family. It was one of the hardest decisions I've ever had to make when I chose to leave here. The Dept is having a hard time finding a replacement TD, so I guess I'm feeling guilty over leaving and am posting this to try and smooth some of the guilt. thanks Chip Haas Technical Director / Assistant Professor of Theatre Department of Theatre and Dance Ball State University Muncie, IN 47306 765-285-0978 chaas [at] bsu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 12:40:23 -0400 Subject: Re: S/N (was Re: I'm cranky tonight) From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > My other option is to leave the list (which I'll probably do) as the > amount of good information I learn here has diminished to the point > of being lower than the RATS N/G. Please don't take offence at > any of this rant as it's just an observation. :-) Just a couple of thoughts: a] If you feel the S/N ratio is too low, start a more worthwhile thread. b] If you aren't *learning* anything, start *sharing* more. Those of us who are learning from the list wouldn't find much benefit if those that know the answers left. "Ask not what the list can do for you - ask what you can do for the list" As for myself, I freely admit I joined the list to learn. Most of what I have to share would probably fall into the "Noise" category, but I want the more knowledgeable folks on the list to know I appreciate their contributions! Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Storms, Randy" Subject: Re: S/N (was Re: I'm cranky tonight) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 09:59:47 -0700 My experience with listservs has been that large outbreaks of off-topic posts come in cycles, and that Spring is the "silly season" on this list. It seems to peak in June - I think it might have something to do with many of us wrapping up our last productions of the year. OTOH, a serious topic or question will always generate a good crop of intelligent replies, regardless of the season - only sometimes you need to wade through a few dozen posts about doughnuts (or something) in order to find them. I suggest tuning back in after a few weeks when the current OT wave subsides. -- r. Randy Storms rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu --------------------------------------------------- good information I learn here has diminished to the point of being lower than the RATS N/G. ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: Haagen Trey P Civ 34 TRW/SDAT Subject: Re: S/N (was Re: I'm cranky tonight) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 11:01:47 -0600 OTOH, a serious topic or question will always generate a good crop of intelligent replies, regardless of the season - only sometimes you need to wade through a few dozen posts about doughnuts (or something) in order to find them. I suggest tuning back in after a few weeks when the current OT wave subsides. --------------------------------------------------- Okay. A serious queation. ( Ppffft ) Is it properly annotated: Greenroom or Green Room? I'm re-doing signage Trey Haagen Arnold Hall Theatre USAF Academy ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <1740D4BC-BA3C-11D8-9E0C-000A95EE4F20 [at] tany.com> From: Brian Aldous Subject: Re: Grandmaster Faders Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 13:40:25 -0400 Been teching a show this week on a Vision and at dress rehearsal, our one cheap trick (rosco I-Q wiggle-mirror-on-a-leko) was repeatedly out of place. At first, we feared the Vision's infamous memory decay (always look for the hard-to-solve answer first) and pondered re-setting many, many cues, when the op said "Hey, wait I just noticed the Grand master is at 97% Would that matter?" And then I come home to find a nice long thread on the usefulness of the grandmaster... But after reading all, my vote is: Keep the GM but always have a setup option of disabling it and/or excepting certain channels from it. Which I guess would reduce it to being a glorified sub. Maybe rename it the not-so-grand master. And definitely get rid of the blackout button. It is nothing but trouble. Brian Aldous brian [at] tany.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <200406091742.i59HgNoS030064 [at] webmail.longwood.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" Subject: Re: S/N (was Re: I'm cranky tonight) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 13:42:23 -0400 In-Reply-To: > Okay. A serious queation. ( Ppffft ) Is it properly annotated: > Greenroom or Green Room? Knowing that this can be a monumental task and decision, and the seriousness with which you are (rightly) approaching it... Okay, enough of that. It has been my experience that "Green Room" is much more common, and appeals to my sensibilities as well. Even if it's not actually green. "Greenroom" just doesn't look right to me. Hardly an authoritative answer, I know, but you get what you pay for! (I will point out that--getting back to the seriousness aspect--you should remember to include Braille on these new signs...) ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 13:51:57 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Grandmaster Faders At 1:40 PM -0400 6/9/04, Brian Aldous wrote: > Maybe rename it the not-so-grand master. "Merely Adequate Master"?? -- Dave Vick, IATSE #274 Head Electrician, The Wharton Center for Performing Arts at Michigan State University Carpe Per Diem ------------------------------ Subject: Brail Sign Question Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 13:55:24 -0400 Message-ID: <56439B09A4ADDC46876BDFF2BBD35DF001C173DE [at] ex1.capecod.edu> From: "Hofmann, Christopher" Paul wrote: (I will point out that--getting back to the seriousness aspect--you should remember to include Braille on these new signs...) To which I ask: Are there specific policy/guidelines/regulations/laws that dictate the placement of brail signage? How far off the floor? Right, left, or on the door? Size of brail? Inquiring minds want to know. - Chris =20 Creativity is the inability to follow someone else's rules. - Cliff Stoll ------------------------------ Message-ID: <40C750AE.2060900 [at] peak.org> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 11:02:22 -0700 From: Pat Kight Subject: Re: Brail Sign Question References: In-Reply-To: Hofmann, Christopher wrote: >Are there specific policy/guidelines/regulations/laws that dictate the >placement of brail signage? How far off the floor? Right, left, or on >the door? Size of brail? > >Inquiring minds want to know. > You should be able to get that information from the Americans With Disabilities Act Web site: http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/adahom1.htm (If you can't locate it on the site, they have a toll-free telephone number for technical/compliance questions) -- Pat Kight Albany (Ore.) Civic Theater kightp [at] peak.org ------------------------------ Subject: Board cover question (was Grandmaster Faders) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 14:06:30 -0400 Message-ID: <56439B09A4ADDC46876BDFF2BBD35DF001C173DF [at] ex1.capecod.edu> From: "Hofmann, Christopher" Came in this morning and turned my ETC Express 72/144 on but left the cover on. Went on stage and used the RFU to bring up channels. Spent a few moments of terror as nothing would come up until I realized that when my ME shut everything down last night, he slid the GM down. I'm all for keeping the GM but I echo the sentiment that the BO button can go. It's kind of like the old 7-up commercials - never used it; never will. But, question - Am I doing any harm to my board by running it with the cover on? The fan and vents are on the back side but I suppose I could be helping to insulate the board enough to raise the internal temp. I just like to keep it covered when I'm not actually sitting at it. Bad idea? - Chris =20 Creativity is the inability to follow someone else's rules. - Cliff Stoll ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 14:09:34 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Brail Sign Question At 1:55 PM -0400 6/9/04, Hofmann, Christopher wrote: >Are there specific policy/guidelines/regulations/laws that dictate the >placement of brail signage? How far off the floor? Right, left, or on >the door? Size of brail? If you're in the US, I think the ADA guidelines dictate that. I could be wrong, though. -- Dave Vick, IATSE #274 Head Electrician, The Wharton Center for Performing Arts at Michigan State University Carpe Per Diem ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Board cover question (was Grandmaster Faders) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 13:10:20 -0500 Message-ID: <0B70E9798A3B4E4080E46327FA359F21295593 [at] MIDL-MAILV.etclink.net> From: "Sarah Clausen" Chris wrote: But, question - Am I doing any harm to my board by running it with the cover on? The fan and vents are on the back side but I suppose I could be helping to insulate the board enough to raise the internal temp. I just like to keep it covered when I'm not actually sitting at it. Bad idea? And I reply: This shouldn't be a problem as long as the "Brick" is uncovered and the = vents are clear. Sarah Sarah Clausen Product Manager Electronic Theatre Controls, Inc. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.0.20040609142159.02c2d118 [at] mail.insightbb.com> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 14:22:43 -0500 From: Mike Brubaker Subject: Re: Brail Sign Question In-Reply-To: References:

Dave is right, they do. See: http://www.access-board.gov/adaag/html/adaag.htm#4.30 At 01:09 PM 6/9/2004, Rigger wrote: >>the door? Size of brail? > >If you're in the US, I think the ADA guidelines dictate that. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.0.20040609121657.0267ca90 [at] localhost> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 12:23:45 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Lamp Warming In-Reply-To: References:

At 06:10 AM 6/9/2004, you wrote: >Actually I have a friend who come in to light >a couple of shows a year separate from those >mentioned. His lighting designs are marvelous, >however, he turns on the board and everything >goes to 100%- BAM! That blows lamps. I was helping a customer install one of our DMX boxes in his theater to control some special fixtures. In moving things around we unplugged the DMX cable from the lighting panel (which had all channels off)...BAM, every light including house lights on full. We plugged it back in, no change and no more control of anything. We finally found the reset button under the stage in the electrical room on the bottom of a dimmer rack. Seems that was some installer's idea of a safety feature. He was going to look into having that fixed right away (like house and work lights on but not the other hundred or two lights and auto reset). We didn't blow anything but it started getting really hot in there and the main transformer was making a lot of noise. Good thing we were there when it happened. ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <200406091923.i59JNVbK032170 [at] webmail.longwood.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" Subject: Re: Braille Sign Question Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 15:23:32 -0400 In-Reply-To: > Are there specific policy/guidelines/regulations/laws that > dictate the placement of brail signage? How far off the > floor? Right, left, or on the door? Size of brail? Taken from my copy of the ADA (28 CFR Part 36 if you wanna order yourself a free copy), Appendix A: 4.30.2 Character Proportion. Letters and numbers on signs shall have a width-to-height ratio between 3:5 and 1:1 and a stroke-width-to-height ratio between 1:5 and 1:10. 4.30.3 Character Height. (The following is my interpretation, as the legalese is a little obtuse here and references other incidental sections) If you're hanging signs from the ceiling or projecting them overhead, or the signs are going to protrude out from the wall into the hallway (for which there are additional height/clearance requirements), then the minimum character height (measured by using an upper case X) is 3". 4.30.4 Raised and Brailled Characters and Pictorial Symbol Signs (Pictograms). Letters and numerals shall be raised 1/32 in., upper case, sans serif or simple serif type and shall be accompanied with Grade 2 Braille. Raised characters shall be at least 5/8 in (16mm) high, but no higher than 2 in (50 mm). Pictograms shall be accompanied by the equivalent verbal description placed directly below the pictogram. The border dimension of the pictogram shall be 6 in (152 mm) minimum in height. 4.30.5 Finish and Contrast. The characters and background of signs shall be eggshell, matte, or other non-glare finish. Characters and symbols shall contrast with their background--either light characters on a dark background or dark characters on a light background. 4.30.6 Mounting Location and Height. Where permanent identification is provided for rooms and spaces, signs shall be installed on the wall adjacent to the latch side of the door. Where there is no wall space to the latch side of the door, including at double leaf doors, signs shall be placed on the nearest adjacent wall. Mounting height shall be 60 in (1525 mm) above the finish floor to the centerline of the sign. Mounting location for such signage shall be so that a person may approach within 3 in (76 mm) of signage without encountering protruding objects or standing within the swing of a door. Having said all that, most reputable sign-making companies will already be used to dealing with all the particulars, and if you mention you want your signage to meet ADA standards (which technically is unnecessary in a grandfathered facility that has not undergone renovation since the ADA's enactment) they should be able to provide that for you with little difficulty. HTH...though you'll have to research for yourself the specs for "Grade 2 Braille". ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 17:16:34 -0400 From: Cosmo Catalano Subject: Deck for sale In-reply-to: Message-id: <4910A434-BA5A-11D8-9516-003065EF1084 [at] williams.edu> American Opera Company has a touring dance floor for sale, FOB New= =20 Jersey. Here is a quote from their note to me: "American Opera has a floor deck, 36 x 76, in sectional modules that= =20 lock together with coffin locks.=A0 There are two layers of ply, the= =20 underside is constructed as a sprung floor.=A0 The top layer is duron= .=A0=20 The price is reasonable and is going for the best fair price.=A0 If= =20 anyone is interested have them call 212-594-1839.=A0 Thanks for your= =20 help.=A0" I'm posting this as a favor and have no personal experience with this= =20 deck. I saw the units in a pile in their warehouse. It looks OK, so= me=20 wear and tear as you might expect from a life on the road. I couldn'= t=20 really tell what the actual construction of the sprung floor undersid= e=20 was or it's effectiveness. If I were buying it, I would make them g= et=20 it out and put it together for me to look at--or have the price=20 adjusted accordingly. Cosmo ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 18:11:49 -0400 From: Steve Bailey Subject: Re: Board cover question (was Grandmaster Faders) Message-id: <00bf01c44e6e$c3270560$6401a8c0 [at] computer> References: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hofmann, Christopher" > Came in this morning and turned my ETC Express 72/144 on but left the > cover on. Went on stage and used the RFU to bring up channels. Spent a > few moments of terror as nothing would come up until I realized that > when my ME shut everything down last night, he slid the GM down. I'm > all for keeping the GM but I echo the sentiment that the BO button can > go. It's kind of like the old 7-up commercials - never used it; never > will. Write a "disable GM macro" that you can run from the RFU. Setup-1 enter -10 enter - 0 enter, or something like that. Remembering, of course that it's been disabled. > But, question - Am I doing any harm to my board by running it with the > cover on? The fan and vents are on the back side but I suppose I could > be helping to insulate the board enough to raise the internal temp. I > just like to keep it covered when I'm not actually sitting at it. Bad > idea? What fans ?. Or is my notorious lack of hearing preventing me from hearing the fans ?. I keep the console up and running almost all the time, re-booting once a month or so. It's usually covered and under it's box at the table at the back of the house (with vents on the box sides). Been using it 5 years this way now, not opening even for a focus, just to run the show. And to Sarah. - Keep the GM. Allow a re-record of lowered cue levels (or any levels for that matter - sub and group included) from a GM pull down (Express can't currently) - Eliminate the blackout button - Add a master for the subs, ESPECIALLY on the Insight / Insight replacement, Express would be nice as well. - Allow a disable of the clear button on the A/B crossfaders when in single or 2 scene mode (functions like a bump out button) Steve Bailey Brooklyn College ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 18:13:31 -0400 From: Michael Powers Message-id: <1086819211.40c78b8bd6ab8 [at] mail-www3.oit.umass.edu> Ladies and Gents: I noticed the following on r.a.t.s. and thought the question rather interesting. Any thoughts or points from those who know? Bill, Dave, et. al. ???? bjp_14y [at] yahoo.com (B P) wrote in message news:... > Consulting various sites/catalogs, you often find statements > that only Grade 80 Alloy chain should be used for overhead > lifting. However, respected rigging suppliers, like Sapsis, > sell trim chain which is proof-coil chain. I'm not sure > what else you would do with trim chain other than suspend > things overhead and adjust their height (trim), so this > seems to be a contradication. > > So, is the real determining factor is whether the loads are > dynamic or static? That is to say, grade 80 Alloy must be > used for dynamic/_lifting_ applications, like chain motors > suspending speakers or lighting truss, and proof coil can > be used for static/_suspension_applications, like building > a lighting grid, hanging battens, permanent speaker > installation. > > I'm making the assumption that appropriated rated other > components are used in both cases (Grade 8 hardware, > rated shackles, etc) > > Thoughts? > > -Brian Michael Michael Powers, Technical Director UMass Theatre Department 112 FAC West 151 Presidents Drive, Ofc.2 Amherst, Ma. 01003-9331 413-545-6821 voice 413-577-0025 fax mfpowers [at] theater.umass.edu ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 19:09:38 EDT Subject: Re: Lamp Warming In a message dated 09/06/04 02:57:09 GMT Daylight Time, StevevETTrn [at] aol.com writes: > As a side note, if you are rarely run intensities over 65%, all of your > colors will be shifted more toward amber. Might want to consider going to > lower > wattage lamps for improved color rendition. If there are some spots that > needs > to be brighter, you can up lamp just those as needed. Lower wattage is the best way to go. At 65%, the lamps may not get hot enough for the halogen cycle to run properly, and you may be losing some because of this. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 19:17:20 EDT Subject: Re: S/N (was Re: I'm cranky tonight) In a message dated 09/06/04 17:56:35 GMT Daylight Time, rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu writes: > I suggest tuning back in after a few weeks when the current OT wave > subsides. One man's meat is another man's noise on the list. Ouch! Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <65.2b9bfb1b.2df8f4df [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 19:18:55 EDT Subject: Re: S/N (was Re: I'm cranky tonight) In a message dated 09/06/04 18:02:58 GMT Daylight Time, Trey.Haagen [at] USAFA.af.mil writes: > Okay. A serious queation. ( Ppffft ) Is it properly annotated: > Greenroom or Green Room? > > I'm re-doing signage Green Room is the usual usage. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <46.506752bc.2df8fa9b [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 19:43:23 EDT Subject: Re: Lamp Warming In a message dated 09/06/04 20:25:12 GMT Daylight Time, jdurand [at] interstellar.com writes: > Seems that > was some installer's idea of a safety feature. He was going to look into > having that fixed right away (like house and work lights on but not the > other hundred or two lights and auto reset). We didn't blow anything but > it started getting really hot in there and the main transformer was making > a lot of noise. Good thing we were there when it happened. I've met ideas like that before. Not having all the lights go out on a DMX failure isn't too daft, though. We're old-fashioned at the moment (changing to ETC Sensors this summer), and have a DMX-to-analogue box. With a DMX failure, it holds the last valid state it received. Also, we have a very handy gadget between the board output and the main DMX line. If it doesn't like the DMX, it puts up a red light and beeps at you. If you have taken the trouble to load it, it also holds five pages of ten states, so that if the board should go down, you can still run some sort of a show. It has 11 faders, one of which is on the main DMX line. This can be handy when trying to set pictures while there's a rehearsal going on. A 'get out of jail free' state in it can be useful. It allows the rehearsal to continue under some sort of stage lighting, and allows you to fiddle with the main board without compromising this. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <003e01c44e86$8b9b2000$0200a8c0 [at] om.cox.net> From: "John Gibilisco" References: Subject: Not About Nightingales Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 20:02:04 -0500 I am wondering if anyone has handled the blasts of steam called for in the Tennessee Williams play "Not About Nightingales"? I've not yet recieved a script but understand that the effect of steam blasts from the floor, hits an actor and scalds him. If you have any ideas on how to safely achieve this let me know! We do own a G300 Hazer and a F100 Fogger but these both produce more of a smokey looking effect. Thanks. John Gibilisco Omaha Playhouse ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040609181818.016edd00 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 18:18:18 From: CB Subject: S/N (was: I'm cranky tonight) >But, looser, well >lubricated chat, in the bar after a departmental meeting is also valuable. >That, I guess, is your noise. Ehm, no, but thanks for playing. Tell 'im what he's won,Johnny! (kinda ironic that he was so close, though, wadn't it?) ; > Signal to Noise Ratio (S/N) is the relative levels between wanted audio and unwanted audio. Some will explain it as input over existing electrical noise, but I'd consider trying to tape a conversation at a waterfall a bad S/N situation as well. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <40C7C409.3030101 [at] fuse.net> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 22:14:33 -0400 From: Stuart Wheaton Subject: Re: The Future is now... References:

In-Reply-To: Paul Guncheon wrote: > > <> > > Mi ji ghaj mia wij vad por vad. > > Haven't you? > Ah damn, I'm packing stuff up so I can move and I have NO idea where my esperanto dictionary is anymore.... Stuart ------------------------------ From: Bsapsis [at] aol.com Message-ID: <15d.3736fb39.2df9212d [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 22:27:57 EDT Subject: Re: No Subject In a message dated 6/9/04 6:17:50 PM, mfpowers [at] theater.umass.edu writes: << > Consulting various sites/catalogs, you often find statements > that only Grade 80 Alloy chain should be used for overhead > lifting. However, respected rigging suppliers, like Sapsis, > sell trim chain which is proof-coil chain. I'm not sure > what else you would do with trim chain other than suspend > things overhead and adjust their height (trim), so this > seems to be a contradication. >> <> Geez. Old topics keep coming back to haunt me. We've been over this one how many times now???? Once more with feeling. Grade 80 alloy chain. Load rated for over head lifting. Expensive. Links are so thick that it is impossible to get anything of substance into an internal link. This renders this chain basically unusable for a trim chain. In any application other than where you are attaching to the end links only. Proof coil chain. Load rated it is. But not for overhead lifting. But the links are of a size that we can actually use....safely. So we do. 1/4" proof coil chain is rated for 1,200 pounds which is significantly more than the lift cable (800 pounds if you are using a wire rope clip...950 pounds if you are using a swage fitting) and the loft block. Nylatron blocks are rated at about 650 pounds...I think. I'm at home and don't have my Clancy catalogue with me. So. a contradiction? Yeah. Sort of. I guess. Maybe. You can use grade 8o chain and not be able to attach h anything to it or do anything with it (like trim a pipe) Or, you can use proof coil chain of a size that works for the system. And you can actually do something with it. Anyone ever here of a piece of proof coil chain breaking because of a mfg. defect? Think the chain knows it's in an overhead location? Or cares? Bill S. Sapsis Rigging, Inc. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile We stand behind, our work. and under, ------------------------------ Message-ID: <40C7C740.1000708 [at] fuse.net> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 22:28:16 -0400 From: Stuart Wheaton Subject: Re: Pit Nets References:

In-Reply-To: Stephen E. Rees wrote: > > BTW, the intent of this net was to keep confetti, feathers and flowers > out of the pit. It did keep a baseball out of the pit during a > rehearsal for Damn Yankees as well. It was never intended to act as a > safety net for performers or others and would fail should someone fall > on it. Safety nets can be had but I didn't think it was what you were > looking for. Safety nets, even if just an open wire rope web, are essential for safety of both people above the pit and people in it. If you desire confetti protection, add something over the safety net. Dropping a pit without protecting people from a fall is just foolish unless there is a very legitimate dramatic need for no net. (perhaps people will be entering via ladders from the pit?) BTDT 2x Safety nets need to be custom built to fit your pit. Stuart ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20040609222023.043dfec0 [at] mail.hstech.org> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 22:29:50 -0400 From: "Scott C. Parker" Subject: NYC High School Tech JOBS In-Reply-To: References:

Greetings all, I'm being asked if I know people qualified to teach tech for the NYC Dept. of Ed. school system. Now, we all know that many folks here are more then qualified to teach technical theater. The catch is that you would need to be a NY State certified teacher. If anyone is interested, let me know. Scott Scott C. Parker Production Designer/Technical Director High School Tech Production Web Site hstech~AT~hstech.org High Schoolers: come visit the HS Tech Web Site... http://www.hstech.org Our Mission: To assist High School Technical Theater students in their desire to learn about, create, and execute theatrical productions. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 22:51:41 -0400 Subject: Re: No Subject From: Josh Ratty Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > Proof coil chain. Load rated it is. But not for overhead lifting. So what is the load rating for if not overhead lifting? Is there lifting that isn't done overhead or is it more for pulling? Josh Ratty ------------------------------ From: "Big Fred Schoening" Subject: Re: Rings (warning: almost completely OT) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 22:41:37 -0500 Message-ID: <000701c44e9c$d930b850$2a0110ac [at] PRODIGALBRAIN> In-Reply-To: Didja know that there's also an Internet Broadway Database? www.ibdb.com . Haven't used it much, so I can't vouch for its completeness, but it looks pretty cool. "Big Fred" Schoening Technical Director Dallas Theater Center Dallas, Texas, USA -----Original Message----- In case you haven't been there, try the Internet Movie Database at http://www.imdb.com/ It's the best resource out there if you have a question about movies. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20040610041051.98043.qmail [at] web41605.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 21:10:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Steeve Vajk Subject: Re: Lamp Warming (Was Re: Grandmasters) In-Reply-To: --------FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote:------------ >It does. This is why I try to cue all my shows for hand operation. A >sensitive operator is better than all the timed cues, as a rule. He >or she will react to the picture seen as will the audience. Modern >boards make this difficult. On an Obsession, this is really easy. Just type [Cue]#[Time][Enter]. This sets the cue as manual time. Then when the cue comes up in the list, it sits on one of the eight manual faders. You can specify which one it always runs on "parking" it to a fader. [Cue]#[Park]#[Enter]. Also great if you've got an effect cue that you know you might need to cut short, such as a fogger or phone ringer, etc. Just park it to a specific fader, once running, hitting the F# key above the fader starts the downfade. steeve_vajk [at] yahoo.com P.S. Is this a little more "signal"-like for y'all? :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1d7.234380ca.2df952cc [at] aol.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 01:59:40 EDT Subject: Re: The Future is now... NOISE :) In a message dated 6/9/4 9:16:58 PM, you wrote: <<> Mi ji ghaj mia wij vad por vad. > > Haven't you? > Ah damn, I'm packing stuff up so I can move and I have NO idea where my esperanto dictionary is anymore....>> Can't be Esperanto... all nouns in that language end with the letter O... no noun = no subject = no sentence. :) Your linguistics lesson for the day. Brought to you by the letter O and the number 0. Looks to me like pidgin Norwegian. Especially the "vad por vad" at the end. I think my grandmother told me to stay away from him. ;) Kristi ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001201c44eb2$fa0c93d0$0201a8c0 [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: The Future is now... NOISE :) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 23:20:06 -0700 > Looks to me like pidgin Norwegian. Especially the "vad por vad" at the end. I > think my grandmother told me to stay away from him. ;) No, I believe it's the Norwegian translation of Kopit's play, "Oh vad por vad, m�ma's vung yu in der cl�set und I'm veeling so blu." -- Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20040610022309.01cdbbc8 [at] popd.ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 02:24:48 -0400 From: Kate Daly Subject: Re: S/N (was: I'm cranky tonight) In-Reply-To: References: Horrified & chagrined at all the noise my query raised. (I'm the one that originally asked what does S/N mean.) I do solemnly swear hereafter not to ask questions, only to listen and learn. (sign me) Permanent Lurker ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 08:17:04 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: S/N (was Re: I'm cranky tonight) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: > Green Room is the usual usage. Awww.... why not modernise it? : GreenRoom ;-) Charlie ------------------------------ Message-ID: <008501c44ec1$0f380240$0a01a8c0 [at] Tony> From: "Tony Deeming" References:

Subject: Re: S/N (was: I'm cranky tonight) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 09:00:56 +0100 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kate Daly" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 7:24 AM Subject: Re: S/N (was: I'm cranky tonight) > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Horrified & chagrined at all the noise my query raised. (I'm the one that > originally asked what does S/N mean.) > I do solemnly swear hereafter not to ask questions, only to listen and learn. > (sign me) > Permanent Lurker > Don't be silly, lass! That's what we all be 'ere fer! It ain't the questions, it's often the answers you need to be leery of.....!! 8-))))))))))))))) Ynot ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #36 ****************************