Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.1.8 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #37 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 03:00:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #37 1. Re: No Subject by Bsapsis [at] aol.com 2. Re: The Future is now... NOISE :) by Kåre Olai Lindbach 3. Re: Not About Nightingales by Dorian Kelly 4. Carriage return by Cosmo Catalano 5. Re: Not About Nightingales by "LES LIND" 6. Re: S/N (was: I'm cranky tonight) by "Booth, Dennis" 7. Re: Not About Nightingales by Dorian Kelly 8. Re: S/N (was: I'm cranky tonight) by Richard Niederberg 9. UK Properties by "Tony Deeming" 10. Re: The Future is now... NOISE :) by "Paul Schreiner" 11. Re: Not About Nightingales by "LES LIND" 12. Re: S/N (was: I'm cranky tonight) by "Fred Schoening, Jr." 13. Re: Pit Nets by "Stephen E. Rees" 14. Re: Not About Nightingales by "Nigel Worsley" 15. Braille Sign (Somewhat OT) by "Nikel, Andrew" 16. Re: The Future is now... NOISE :) by Steve Larson 17. Re: Oops... by "Paul Guncheon" 18. Re: Braille Sign (Somewhat OT) by MissWisc [at] aol.com 19. Re: Overhead lifting (was No Subject) by Stephen Litterst 20. Re: Not About Nightingales by Stephen Litterst 21. Re: Not About Nightingales by Jerry Durand 22. Re: Carriage return by Noah Price 23. Thanks for the new header. by 24. Re: The Future is now... NOISE :) by Rigger 25. Display of Message by ken [at] kenholyoak.com (Ken Holyoak) 26. Re: Braille Sign (Somewhat OT) by Rigger 27. Re: The Future is now... NOISE :) by schreinerpd [at] longwood.edu 28. SoftSymbols sampler by "Jon Ares" 29. Re: S/N (was: I'm cranky tonight) by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 30. Re: Display of Message by seanrmc [at] earthlink.net 31. Re: Pit Nets by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 32. Re: SoftSymbols sampler by Jerry Durand 33. Re: S/N (was: I'm cranky tonight) by Jerry Durand 34. Re: Lamp Warming (Was Re: Grandmasters) by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 35. Audio Rental Question by "Hofmann, Christopher" 36. Re: Not About Nightingales by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 37. Re: Audio Rental Question by "Matthew Breton" 38. Re: UK Properties by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 39. Re: Braille Sign (Somewhat OT) by "MARK OBRIEN" 40. Re: S/N (was: I'm cranky tonight) by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 41. Re: Not About Nightingales by Dave Bowman 42. Lexan and Projection by "Rob Carovillano" 43. Re: Lexan and Projection by "Mason, Richard" 44. Re: Lexan and Projection by Stephen Litterst 45. Re: Lexan and Projection by Kevin Lee Allen 46. Re: Not About Nightingales by Jerry Durand 47. Re: Lexan and Projection by "Stephen E. Rees" 48. Re: Lexan and Projection by "Delbert Hall" 49. Re: S/N (was: I'm cranky tonight) by Charlie Richmond 50. Re: Lexan and Projection by beth heermann 51. R.I.P., Ray by Rigger 52. Re: Lexan and Projection by Stephen Litterst 53. Re: Not About Nightingales by Stephen Litterst 54. Re: Not About Nightingales by Jerry Durand 55. Re: Not About Nightingales by Wood Chip-P26398 56. Re: Braille Sign (Somewhat OT) by Josh Ratty 57. Re: Not About Nightingales by Jerry Durand 58. Re: Lexan and Projection by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 59. Re: Pit Nets by Stuart Wheaton 60. Re: S/N (was: I'm cranky tonight) by Stuart Wheaton 61. Proof Coil, (was Re: No Subject) by CB 62. Re: S/N by CB 63. Rockets! Re: Not About Nightingales by Robert Spier 64. Re: Lexan and Projection by Paul Puppo *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bsapsis [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1d7.2345fab7.2df98f47 [at] aol.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 06:17:43 EDT Subject: Re: No Subject In a message dated 6/9/04 10:53:15 PM, josh.ratty [at] verizon.net writes: << So what is the load rating for if not overhead lifting? Is there lifting that isn't done overhead or is it more for pulling? >> A load rating identifies it's strength. It doesn't matter what the application is, it still has that same strength (i.e., load rating) The manufacturer simply chooses to not warrant it's use in an overhead situation. Bill S. Sapsis Rigging, Inc. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile We stand behind, our work. and under, ------------------------------ From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=E5re_Olai_Lindbach?= Subject: Re: The Future is now... NOISE :) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 12:42:16 +0200 Organization: LLP Message-ID: <85egc0houv55o9mulv7hjkhmbof5sko6qb [at] 4ax.com> References:

In-Reply-To: On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 23:20:06 -0700, you ("Jon Ares" ) wrote: >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > >> Looks to me like pidgin Norwegian. Especially the "vad por vad" at the >> end. I think my grandmother told me to stay away from him. ;) > >No, I believe it's the Norwegian translation of Kopit's play, "Oh vad por >vad, møma's vung yu in der cløset und I'm veeling so blu." In Norwegian "What" is "Hva", pronounced /va:/. (Some also use "Kva", /kva:/) In Swedish, on the other hand, "What" is "Vad", probably also pronounced /va:/. "por" reminds me of Spanish, though, but I get no assosiations in Norwegian... "V" prounounced like "F" is more german/dutch. -- mvh/Regards Kåre Olai Lindbach (News: Remove '_delete_' and '.invalid') (HTML-written email from unknown will be discarded) ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 11:46:37 +0100 From: Dorian Kelly Subject: Re: Not About Nightingales >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > > >I am wondering if anyone has handled the blasts of steam called for in the >Tennessee Williams play "Not About Nightingales"? > This is a job for a CO2 extinguisher Dorian Kelly ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 07:18:13 -0400 From: Cosmo Catalano Subject: Carriage return In-reply-to: Message-id: In my recent post about a show floor for sale, my Digested version displayed the line wrap as a "=20" and Carriage Return (interesting holdover, don't you think?) is "=A0". Are others getting the same thing? How can I keep my e-mail from generating these characters to the list? I have it set for plain text. Cosmo ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 07:18:22 -0400 From: "LES LIND" Subject: Re: Not About Nightingales >This is a job for a CO2 extinguisher >Dorian Kelly Anyone know how to muffle or otherwise get rid of the all too familiar sound of escaping CO2. Les Lind, TD NHS Dramatics Northeastern High School Manchester, PA ------------------------------ Subject: Re: S/N (was: I'm cranky tonight) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 07:48:23 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Booth, Dennis" Kate, Not to worry... learning is the pleasant side effect of asking questions, and then listening. Please keep asking... and listening. DGB Dennis Gill Booth, Technical Director North Carolina School of the Arts=20 School of Design and Production=20 1553 South Main Street=20 PO Box 12189=20 Winston-Salem, NC 27117-2189=20 * Voice: (336)770-3232 x127=20 * FAX: (336)770-3213=20 * Email: boothd [at] ncarts.edu=20 * D&P URL: http://www.ncarts.edu/ncsaprod/designandproduction/=20 * Faculty URL: http://faculty.ncarts.edu/dandp/booth/ -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Kate Daly Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 2:25 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: S/N (was: I'm cranky tonight) For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Horrified & chagrined at all the noise my query raised. (I'm the one that=20 originally asked what does S/N mean.) I do solemnly swear hereafter not to ask questions, only to listen and learn. (sign me) Permanent Lurker ----------------------------------------------=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content and is believed to be clean. ---------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 13:08:12 +0100 From: Dorian Kelly Subject: Re: Not About Nightingales >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > >>This is a job for a CO2 extinguisher >>Dorian Kelly > >Anyone know how to muffle or otherwise get rid of the all too familiar >sound of escaping CO2. Nice to know you are very familiar with fire extinguishers... :-) (smile) Isnt the sound of a fire extinguisher similar to escaping steam? You could try different nozzles Dorian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 05:07:49 -0700 Subject: Re: S/N (was: I'm cranky tonight) Message-ID: <20040610.050846.2568.0.ladesigners [at] juno.com> From: Richard Niederberg Self-Censorship is NOT the solution. The thread you started obviously was of interest to folk, which validates it as a thread. The fabric of this discussion list must be woven from strong threads, or the fabric will fail in its essential purpose of providing wing to the flight of ideas. /s/ Richard > Horrified & chagrined at all the noise my query raised. > (I'm the one that originally asked what does S/N mean.) > I do solemnly swear hereafter not to ask questions, only > to listen and learn. > (sign me) > Permanent Lurker ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Message-ID: <020701c44ee5$b72885a0$0a01a8c0 [at] Tony> From: "Tony Deeming" References: Subject: UK Properties Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 13:23:19 +0100 As I think I mentioned somewhere up above, I'm still looking to improve the list of props that I KNOW some of you guys have out there that are sitting idle after being made for one performance. If you are one of them, and are in the UK, let me have details, photo's and a hire price (as well as your general location) and I'll publish the details on our web site as a reference guide for anyone who might wish to look for props in the future. Anything, large or small, as long as you're happy to loan/hire/sell whatever. Cheers all. Ynot See www.abbeytheatre.co.uk and follow the link down the main page to "UK Properties Archive" ------------------------------ Message-Id: <200406101224.i5ACOPIQ006793 [at] webmail.longwood.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" Subject: Re: The Future is now... NOISE :) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 08:24:23 -0400 In-Reply-To: My apologies beforehand...really. I just can't help myself. It's compulsive, or something like that... >>>> Mi ji ghaj mia wij vad por vad. >>> >>> Looks to me like pidgin Norwegian. Especially the "vad por vad" at=20 >>> the end. I think my grandmother told me to stay away from him. ;) >> >> No, I believe it's the Norwegian translation of Kopit's play, "Oh vad = >> por vad, m=F8ma's vung yu in der cl=F8set und I'm veeling so blu." >=20 > In Norwegian "What" is "Hva", pronounced /va:/. (Some also use "Kva", > /kva:/) =20 >=20 > In Swedish, on the other hand, "What" is "Vad", probably also=20 > pronounced /va:/. Wi n=F8t trei a h=F8liday in Sweden this y=EBr? See the l=F8veli lakes The w=F8nd=EBrful teleph=F8ne system And m=E4ni interesting furry animals Including the majestik m=F8=F8se Signed RICHARD M. NIXON ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 08:24:43 -0400 From: "LES LIND" Subject: Re: Not About Nightingales I guess I could stretch my imagination far enough to say it kinda sounds like steam. There are other times when we want a burst of non-pyro "smoke" for an effect. It's not a big deal to hear the extinguisher sound and the audience has never said anything that I've heard. But I know what I say to myself when I see a show (usually high school or community theatre) where it is use, "Is there any way to not get that sound?" I think your nozzle theory is the answer. Maybe that big "horn" on the CO2 extinguisher causes that sound. I'll have to try it without it sometime. >Nice to know you are very familiar with fire extinguishers... :-) (smile) >Isnt the sound of a fire extinguisher similar to escaping steam? You could >try different nozzles >Dorian Les Lind, TD NHS Dramatics Northeastern High School Manchester, PA ------------------------------ Message-ID: <16032412.1086872289856.JavaMail.root [at] wamui08.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 07:58:09 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: "Fred Schoening, Jr." Subject: Re: S/N (was: I'm cranky tonight) Au contraire! This is exactly the sort of question that this list is here for! There are a great many people subscribed to this list (last I heard it was about 1500 or so,) ranging from complete neophytes to old pros. We have ALL learned things here at one time or another. Trust me - you weren't the only one who found out what S/N meant, and what the concept is behind it. I'd guess that the reason your question generated so much response is that most of the other big threads currently ongoing are starting to get kind of old, and everybody was looking for a good topic to talk about. Renounce your vow, and ask lots of questions. If nobody asks anything, it's going to be a very quiet list indeed... "Big Fred" Schoening Technical Director Dallas Theater Center Dallas, Texas, USA -----Original Message----- Horrified & chagrined at all the noise my query raised. (I'm the one that originally asked what does S/N mean.) I do solemnly swear hereafter not to ask questions, only to listen and learn. (sign me) Permanent Lurker ------------------------------ Message-ID: <40C85EA2.8070702 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 09:14:10 -0400 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Subject: Re: Pit Nets References:

Stuart, Will you say again who your fabricator is? I think I missed that if it was here last week. I wholly concur with your estimate of the problem and did not mean to leave the impression that I thought such protection unnecessary. Sorry if such was the case. BTDT 2x ?? What is this? TIA, Regards, Steve Rees, TD SUNY-Fredonia Stuart Wheaton wrote: > > Safety nets, even if just an open wire rope web, are essential for > safety of both people above the pit and people in it. BTDT 2x [snipped] ------------------------------ Message-ID: <32b101c44eed$b106b900$a174fea9 [at] Nigellaptop> From: "Nigel Worsley" References:

Subject: Re: Not About Nightingales Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 14:20:18 +0100 John Gibilisco wrote: > I am wondering if anyone has handled the blasts of steam called for in the > Tennessee Williams play "Not About Nightingales"? > > I've not yet recieved a script but understand that the effect of steam > blasts from the floor, hits an actor and scalds him. > > If you have any ideas on how to safely achieve this let me know! Run a smoke machine on diluted fluid. Use distilled water, between 5:1 and 10:1 should give the right effect. When I did this, the smoke machine fed into a 1" pipe which turned through 90 degrees and then went up through the stage. Do not put the pipe hard against the smoke machine, it produces small amounts of very dense smoke that needs to mix with the air that will be drawn through the pipe. A gap of about 1" between nozzle and pipe worked for me. Nigel Worsley ------------------------------ Subject: Braille Sign (Somewhat OT) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 08:39:17 -0500 Message-ID: <93FE13C1F8D37D4D89A28A78F975D669018F5BEA [at] stagepost.vari-lite.corp> From: "Nikel, Andrew" Speaking of Braille signage - when we go to the banks drive-through ATM, = my wife has pondered the Braille buttons on the machine. Not a bad = question. I always assumed they were there for a blind person in the = seat BEHIND the driver. Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 09:42:50 -0400 Subject: Re: The Future is now... NOISE :) From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: This is why the list should be the first thing that greets you each morning after Helga. Steve > Wi n=F8t trei a h=F8liday in Sweden this y=EBr? >=20 > See the l=F8veli lakes >=20 > The w=F8nd=EBrful teleph=F8ne system >=20 > And m=E4ni interesting furry animals >=20 > Including the majestik m=F8=F8se >=20 > Signed RICHARD M. NIXON >=20 >=20 >=20 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <00dc01c44ef5$2c0b0410$0202a8c0 [at] MyLastPC> From: "Paul Guncheon" References: Subject: Re: Oops... Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 04:13:57 -1000 Should have said something more like... "Mi jig hajj mea wig automobile poor jar". ("I have enjoyed my air car for years.") Actually, come to think of it, I probably should have said nothing at whatever god forsaken hour I wrote that. Not enough sleep. But that's what I like about the list. Not only did more than one person recognize my paltry attempt at Esperanto (and a very poor translation to this universal language), but one member corrected the post. Gotta love it. Laters, Paul "It's half a score," Tom said often. ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1a0.258dddc4.2df9d1b8 [at] aol.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 11:01:12 EDT Subject: Re: Braille Sign (Somewhat OT) In a message dated 6/10/4 8:36:41 AM, ANikel [at] vlps.com wrote: <> People who walk up. Kristi ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 11:02:35 -0400 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: Overhead lifting (was No Subject) Message-id: <40C8780B.A2C51D33 [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References: Bsapsis [at] aol.com wrote: > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > Once more with feeling. > > Grade 80 alloy chain. Load rated for over head lifting. Expensive. Links > are so thick that it is impossible to get anything of substance into an > internal link. This renders this chain basically unusable for a trim chain. In any > application other than where you are attaching to the end links only. Well, there is Grade 80 "passing link" chain available. Production Advantage offers it. The salesperson I spoke to didn't know the manufacturer, but had an otherwise comprehensive spec sheet. It's not cheap -- $3.50/ft and the hardness factor makes it hard to cut and proper safety gear is necessary when you do cut it. Steve Litterst -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 11:08:10 -0400 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: Not About Nightingales Message-id: <40C8795A.20F3B1EE [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References: LES LIND wrote: > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I guess I could stretch my imagination far enough to say it kinda sounds > like steam. There are other times when we want a burst of non-pyro > "smoke" for an effect. It's not a big deal to hear the extinguisher > sound and the audience has never said anything that I've heard. But I > know what I say to myself when I see a show (usually high school or > community theatre) where it is use, "Is there any way to not get that > sound?" I think your nozzle theory is the answer. Maybe that big "horn" > on the CO2 extinguisher causes that sound. I'll have to try it without > it sometime. It's the expansion of the C02 that causes the sound. I did a bunch of experimentation last fall with our extinguishers to get the right effect. Without the horn they were still quite loud. Another option is to borrow/rent a fog machine with a compressed air input. It adds velocity, and thins out the fog enough to pass for steam. Steve Litterst -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.0.20040610081000.02a22178 [at] localhost> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 08:11:43 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Not About Nightingales In-Reply-To: References: At 05:08 AM 6/10/2004, you wrote: > >Anyone know how to muffle or otherwise get rid of the all too familiar > >sound of escaping CO2. > > Nice to know you are very familiar with fire extinguishers... :-) (smile) >Isnt the sound of a fire extinguisher similar to escaping steam? You could >try different nozzles I would think a lot of the "familiar sound" is from venting into a long, hard plastic cone. I'll bet if you vent into a section of flexible air duct (the stuff with an inch or so of fiberglass insulation) that it will sound completely different, possibly even pretty quiet. ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Noah Price Subject: Re: Carriage return Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 08:22:20 -0700 On Jun 10, 2004, at 4:18 AM, Cosmo Catalano wrote: > In my recent post about a show floor for sale, my Digested version > displayed the line wrap as a "=20" and Carriage Return (interesting > holdover, don't you think?) is "=A0". Are others getting the same > thing? How can I keep my e-mail from generating these characters to > the list? I have it set for plain text. I was going to write back to Cosmo directly, but in case this is affecting anyone else... That is caused by this attribute of your email: Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Mail readers that understand "quoted-printable" will formate this correctly as a single message, but the digest is plain text and just takes the message as formatted. Your second message didn't have the "=20" and was: Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I'm running a slightly later version of Apple Mail, sending in plain text. My messages are all: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Perhaps that second message was truly "plain text" (as you'd get from menu "Format" -> "Make Plain Text") and the first was simply typed with no formatting, but wasn't really "Plain Text"? Thanks, Noah -- | Noah Price | http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ | | Stagecraft Mailing List | Web issues: stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net | | Web site administrator | Personal: noah [at] theprices.net | ------------------------------ From: Subject: Thanks for the new header. Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 11:30:39 -0400 Message-Id: <20040610153039.VXBF1360.de-fe02.dejazzd.com [at] de-fe02> I couldn't put my finger on it at first but I like the new condensed header. Now if people would only remember to edit it out we have it made. Thanks for all your efforts to "please" everyone on the list. Greg Bierly Hempfield HS ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 11:36:30 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: The Future is now... NOISE :) At 8:24 AM -0400 6/10/04, Paul Schreiner wrote: >Wi n=F8t trei a h=F8liday in Sweden this y=EBr? > >See the l=F8veli lakes > >The w=F8nd=EBrful teleph=F8ne system > >And m=E4ni interesting furry animals > >Including the majestik m=F8=F8se mi sister was bitten by a m=F8=F8se =F8nce ------------------------------ From: ken [at] kenholyoak.com (Ken Holyoak) Cc: stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net ('Noah Price') Subject: Display of Message Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 10:37:11 -0500 Message-ID: <00c801c44f00$cca49930$0900a8c0 [at] COMPAQ> In-Reply-To: The Display of Message would work better for Outlooks preview pane if the dotted line and multiple spaces were removed after the "For Info" line. As in: For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see On Jun 10, 2004, at 4:18 AM, Cosmo Catalano wrote: This would allow reading of subject and first two lines of the message to determine if it is of interest. Thanks for getting the list back up. Kenneth. H. Holyoak Information + Insight = Profit POB 68633 Indianapolis, IN 46268-0633 ken [at] kenholyoak.com 317-253-7000 -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Noah Price Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:22 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Carriage return For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- On Jun 10, 2004, at 4:18 AM, Cosmo Catalano wrote: > In my recent post about a show floor for sale, my Digested version > displayed the line wrap as a "=20" and Carriage Return (interesting > holdover, don't you think?) is "=A0". Are others getting the same > thing? How can I keep my e-mail from generating these characters to > the list? I have it set for plain text. I was going to write back to Cosmo directly, but in case this is affecting anyone else... That is caused by this attribute of your email: Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Mail readers that understand "quoted-printable" will formate this correctly as a single message, but the digest is plain text and just takes the message as formatted. Your second message didn't have the "=20" and was: Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I'm running a slightly later version of Apple Mail, sending in plain text. My messages are all: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Perhaps that second message was truly "plain text" (as you'd get from menu "Format" -> "Make Plain Text") and the first was simply typed with no formatting, but wasn't really "Plain Text"? Thanks, Noah -- | Noah Price | http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ | | Stagecraft Mailing List | Web issues: stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net | | Web site administrator | Personal: noah [at] theprices.net | ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 11:38:16 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Braille Sign (Somewhat OT) At 11:01 AM -0400 6/10/04, MissWisc [at] aol.com wrote: ><driver.>> > >People who walk up. People who learn to drive in Detroit. -- Dave Vick, IATSE #274 Head Electrician, The Wharton Center for Performing Arts at Michigan State University Carpe Per Diem ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20040610115123.99n2cks4os4osw44 [at] webmail.longwood.edu> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 11:51:23 -0400 From: schreinerpd [at] longwood.edu Subject: Re: The Future is now... NOISE :) References: In-Reply-To: >> Wi n=F8t trei a h=F8liday in Sweden this y=EBr? >> >> See the l=F8veli lakes >> >> The w=F8nd=EBrful teleph=F8ne system >> >> And m=E4ni interesting furry animals >> >> Including the majestik m=F8=F8se > > mi sister was bitten by a m=F8=F8se =F8nce For anyone really interested in the whole sequence (which even I couldn't completely remember...not to mention being t=F8=F8 lazi to type out all the special characters), check out http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071853/crazycredits And yes, I know I swapped the order on the Nixon signature and the majestik part, but I'll plead artistic privelege for that one! ------------------------------ Message-ID: <003a01c44f09$b7a65dd0$0201a8c0 [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: SoftSymbols sampler Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 09:41:01 -0700 Does anyone have the free SoftSymbols sampler they're willing to share with me? Why am I not getting it from Field Templates' website? Glad you asked.... In order to check out the free sampler, you have to sign up for an account, which requires first and last name, shipping address, birthdate, login name, password, etc etc.... just to check out the free sampler. !!! I am very interested in the the SoftSymbols package, but like any savvy consumer, I should check out the product beforehand. I'm just sick and tired of having to hand over tons of personal information (and log yet ANOTHER login and password combination) in order to give a vendor my money. Now a company like Amazon, or some such where you might shop there several times over a lifetime, that's understandable... but for companies like Field Templates, which only has one product, and it's only likely you'll shop there once, maybe twice in 5 or more years, I think it's overkill. I'd take my money elsewhere, if I could buy the product on my terms. Ok, rant over. So, does anyone have the free sampler I could sample? -- Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <19d.259580cd.2df9ecd9 [at] aol.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 12:56:57 EDT Subject: Re: S/N (was: I'm cranky tonight) In a message dated 10/06/04 02:50:21 GMT Daylight Time, psyd [at] cox.net writes: > Signal to Noise Ratio (S/N) is the relative levels between wanted audio and > unwanted audio. Some will explain it as input over existing electrical > noise, but I'd consider trying to tape a conversation at a waterfall a bad > S/N situation as well. For Heaven's sake! As you would know, if you remembered any of my posts, I've spent 28 years or more using, aligning, testing, specifying designing and installing professional broadcast audio equipment. In terms of the list, which is what this post was originally about, we have both contributed to the noise. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <23430806.1086886907483.JavaMail.root [at] scooter.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 13:01:47 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: seanrmc [at] earthlink.net Subject: Re: Display of Message Ken, I believe you can change the size of the preview pane. Just click on the line dividing it from the message list, and drag to where you want it. --Sean Sean R. McCarthy seanrmc [at] earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: Ken Holyoak The Display of Message would work better for Outlooks preview pane if the dotted line and multiple spaces were removed after the "For Info" line. This would allow reading of subject and first two lines of the message to determine if it is of interest. Kenneth. H. Holyoak ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 13:01:46 EDT Subject: Re: Pit Nets In a message dated 10/06/04 03:29:23 GMT Daylight Time, sdwheaton [at] fuse.net writes: > Safety nets, even if just an open wire rope web, are > essential for safety of both people above the pit and people > in it. If you desire confetti protection, add something > over the safety net. The really need to be strong enough to take the wweight of a person. If you rig something that isn't, it will still be percieved as for real, and give a totally spurious air of safety to a hazardous situation. Rather like the classic tiger trap. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.0.20040610100200.02a2a5a0 [at] localhost> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 10:05:31 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: SoftSymbols sampler In-Reply-To: References: At 09:41 AM 6/10/2004, you wrote: >(and log yet >ANOTHER login and password combination) For the web pages that insist on an e-mail address, I use my Yahoo! account. I ONLY check it when I'm expecting a verification. For password/account tracking, we use "4Uonly" by http://www.dillobits.com/ , free download, and they don't even ask who you are. We use if for pages we go to and to generate/store ID/passwords for customers accessing our ftp site. You can also set it for numeric only, 26 digits and generate WEP passwords with it. ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.0.20040610100548.02a28488 [at] localhost> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 10:06:43 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: S/N (was: I'm cranky tonight) In-Reply-To: References: At 09:56 AM 6/10/2004, you wrote: >For Heaven's sake! As you would know, if you remembered any of my posts, I've >spent 28 years or more using, aligning, testing, specifying designing and >installing professional broadcast audio equipment. Gee Frank, are you YOUNGER than me or just get a late start? Now >I< feel old! ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <119.33f97e7c.2df9f448 [at] aol.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 13:28:40 EDT Subject: Re: Lamp Warming (Was Re: Grandmasters) In a message dated 10/06/04 05:12:16 GMT Daylight Time, steeve_vajk [at] yahoo.com writes: > On an Obsession, this is really easy. Just type [Cue]#[Time][Enter]. > This sets the cue as manual time. Then when the cue comes up in the > list, it sits on one of the eight manual faders. You can specify which > one it always runs on "parking" it to a fader. [Cue]#[Park]#[Enter]. > Also great if you've got an effect cue that you know you might need to > cut short, such as a fogger or phone ringer, etc. Just park it to a > specific fader, once running, hitting the F# key above the fader starts > the downfade. So many controls: so many different operating methods. It's quite easy on our old Impuls, too. You just run the A/B or C/D fader pair back to zero, and load the next cue. Then it goes with the faders as you move them. Some early computer boards were very badly designed for operator convenience. I remember one where there were two output stores, one driven by the A/B faders for manual use, and one driven by the timer play back. All cues manual, fine. All timer fine. When you wanted to mix them, it was a nightmare! To put a timed cue, as it might be a long, slow sunset, in among manual cues, this is what you had to do. Load a copy of the current A/B store into the timer store: call up a black-out into the A/B store: call up the end state of the timed fade into the A/B store: and call up a black-out into the timer store. This meant that there were a lot of blackout states sitting around in the cue sequence. Just one wrong operation, and you were in deep trouble. After a major cock-up on one show, I devised a quite elaborate cue sheet, which said what all the memories should contain at any point in the show. If you blew it, and which of us has not, the information was available to get out of the mess. Two extra faders would have fixed it: a master on the timer, and one on the A/B playback. They weren't there. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Subject: Audio Rental Question Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 13:30:52 -0400 Message-ID: <56439B09A4ADDC46876BDFF2BBD35DF001C173E6 [at] ex1.capecod.edu> From: "Hofmann, Christopher" I'm looking for some help and ideas regarding an audio rental package in the southern New England area. The director has asked to get some information on renting a package that includes ten wireless body mics. They are needed for a series of outdoor performances over three weeks in July. We have almost no budget, so I'm fairly certain his request is cost prohibitive. None-the-less I'd like to get some ideas for him. I doubt I'm going find this package locally (Cape Cod.) I'd be interested in any ideas (or contacts from companies directly) that are in the area and who might be able to help us. I'm not apposed to renting a package that's shipped in from across the country, but I'd perfer to deal with someone within a day's drive (that includes the greater Boston and Providence areas.) I'm hoping the wisdom of the list can help me save some time. Also, anyone have an idea what an audio package with 10 wireless mics, mix, and speakers might run for three weeks? Chris =20 ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <161.30570a05.2df9f5db [at] aol.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 13:35:23 EDT Subject: Re: Not About Nightingales In a message dated 10/06/04 12:21:24 GMT Daylight Time, lindl [at] nesd.k12.pa.us writes: > >This is a job for a CO2 extinguisher > >Dorian Kelly > > Anyone know how to muffle or otherwise get rid of the all too familiar > sound of escaping CO2. It seems to me that this not inappropriate for a powerful steam discharge, either. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: "Matthew Breton" Subject: Re: Audio Rental Question Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 13:51:58 -0400 Message-ID: >I'm looking for some help and ideas regarding an audio rental package in >the southern New England area. The director has asked to get some >information on renting a package that includes ten wireless body mics. >They are needed for a series of outdoor performances over three weeks in >July. We have almost no budget, so I'm fairly certain his request is >cost prohibitive. I've had luck with Boston Light and Sound (www.blsi.com), who were willing to loan out some choir microphones for a production of Godspell I was lighting, at no charge. Mind you, this was for a school production, and had charity written all over it. They definitely have the inventory you're looking for, though. Matthew Breton Technical Director Green Street Studios _________________________________________________________________ Check out the coupons and bargains on MSN Offers! http://youroffers.msn.com ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <145.2bac3ce0.2df9f9ca [at] aol.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 13:52:10 EDT Subject: Re: UK Properties In a message dated 10/06/04 13:24:55 GMT Daylight Time, deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com writes: > If you are one of them, and are in the UK, let me have details, photo's and > a > hire price (as well as your general location) and I'll publish the details > on > our web site as a reference guide for anyone who might wish to look for > props in > the future. Lovely idea. The only problem is that the props inventory often exists in the props misteess' head, and the heads of those who have made them for shows. To take an instance, I have made many swords. R&J, Othello, the Scottish Play, Caesar, Richard III, Hamlet. In the props store, I can find few. The Richard III set, because they were to an eccentric design: the King's sword from Hamlet, because it had a sharp point, to penetrate the arras. It now hangs above my firplace, in France. I don't think that fully lethal swords belong in general stores. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: "MARK OBRIEN" Subject: Re: Braille Sign (Somewhat OT) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 07:56:18 -0700 Message-ID: Also odd in the courtyard of the Riveara Hotel, in Vegas, Is an out of the way area, way off to the side,, that has a sign that says "Dog walk, for assistance dogs" It was in braille, of course. It seemed to me, that IF one found the sign, they had already stepped in the proof. Mark O'Brien >>Speaking of Braille signage - when we go to the banks drive-through ATM, >>my wife has pondered the Braille buttons on the machine. Not a bad >>question. I always assumed they were there for a blind person in the seat >>BEHIND the driver. > >Andrew _________________________________________________________________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page – FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <12a.43980269.2df9fb92 [at] aol.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 13:59:46 EDT Subject: Re: S/N (was: I'm cranky tonight) In a message dated 10/06/04 18:08:13 GMT Daylight Time, jdurand [at] interstellar.com writes: > Gee Frank, are you YOUNGER than me or just get a late start? Now >I< feel > old! I do. I'm 65+. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <40C8B3D0.8060301 [at] syr.edu> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 15:17:36 -0400 From: Dave Bowman Organization: Syracuse Stage/SU Drama Subject: Re: Not About Nightingales References: In-Reply-To: Hey gang, As someone who has used CO2 extinguishers in 2 productions this past season (Wiz of Oz and Hamlet) let me PLEASE give you this warning: Direct contact (exposed skin) at close range of a blast from a CO2 extinguisher WILL leave nasty "freezer" burns! Care must be taken in the use of this effect. As the original poster says the "steam" hits the actor and scalds him (I do not know the show very well), hitting the actor with a CO2 extinguisher blast could be a problem (especially an "up shot" from the floor). As far as the noise: yes, changing out the cone to a different diameter will help (you might actually get a noise your sound designer and/or director is happy with). I will also warn you (from experience) that hoses, other than the short ones that the cones come on, tend to freeze up. If you need to "pipe" the effect to the spot in the floor - use pipe, not hoses. dave B. >This is a job for a CO2 extinguisher > >Dorian Kelly > > -- David M. Bowman Syracuse Stage / SU Drama Master Electrician / Adj. Professor dmbowman [at] syr.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002201c44f1f$c0728e50$a8a44481 [at] rcarovil> From: "Rob Carovillano" References: Subject: Lexan and Projection Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 15:18:45 -0400 Here is some signal for you... 1. Does anyone know the general rules for how thick Lexan needs to be to support a person and any other tips or tricks for working with it. The technical specs are far too engineering oriented for me to make sense of. 2. Can Muslin make an effective rear projection material? Rob Carovillano Technical Director Bluett Theatre Saint Joseph's University rcarovil [at] sju.edu ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Lexan and Projection Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 15:34:02 -0400 Message-ID: <0F98C8BA43C00C42AFFBE000DA9DDB23011F16AB [at] pollux.richmond.edu> From: "Mason, Richard" Yes Muslin can.....seamless bleached muslin works great....did a production of The Good Doctor with projections and used them....... You want the Lexan to be a good 3/4 of an inch with standard bracing in effect........ I did a set of curved steps and had supported in from edge an inch and the dancers still found a way to break off the edge in places...... -----Original Message----- From: Rob Carovillano [mailto:rcarovil [at] sju.edu]=20 Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 3:19 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Lexan and Projection For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Here is some signal for you... 1. Does anyone know the general rules for how thick Lexan needs to be to support a person and any other tips or tricks for working with it. The technical specs are far too engineering oriented for me to make sense of. 2. Can Muslin make an effective rear projection material? Rob Carovillano Technical Director Bluett Theatre Saint Joseph's University rcarovil [at] sju.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 15:35:30 -0400 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: Lexan and Projection Message-id: <40C8B802.40B8A0E9 [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References: Rob Carovillano wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > 2. Can Muslin make an effective rear projection material? "Effective" is a funny word. If you have a strong enough projector and your lighting designer is willing to keep light away from the muslin, sure! The image will not be as crisp as it would be with true RP material, and you'll me more aware of the projector as the image source. Steve Litterst -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <4827D747-BB15-11D8-B520-003065D2C502 [at] klad.com> From: Kevin Lee Allen Subject: Re: Lexan and Projection Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 15:35:08 -0400 not really, but drafting paper can On Jun 10, 2004, at 3:18 PM, Rob Carovillano wrote: > 2. Can Muslin make an effective rear projection material? > ----- Kevin Lee Allen Production Designer http://www.klad.com 973.744.6352.voice 201.280.3841.cell klad [at] klad.com =F0 ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.0.20040610122916.090b8f70 [at] localhost> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 12:35:58 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Not About Nightingales In-Reply-To: References: At 12:17 PM 6/10/2004, you wrote: >I will also warn you (from experience) that hoses, other than the short >ones that the cones come on, tend to freeze up. If you need to "pipe" the >effect to the spot in the floor - use pipe, not hoses. And a big ALSO, don't EVER put two valves on any system with liquefied cold gasses. If you close both valves you could rupture the hose/pipe between them. This isn't AS big a problem with CO2, but is very serious with things like liquid nitrogen. An exception I've seen used on rocket engines (one of the other things I do) is a main shutoff valve (ball type) and a throttle valve (butterfly, or other) that can never completely seal. That way even with both closed you don't break the pipe. ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <40C8B814.2070809 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 15:35:48 -0400 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Subject: Re: Lexan and Projection References: Rob, Can't speak to the Lexan query but I can say that muslin is only a fair RP material. If you don't want to go to something like Roscoscreen, you might try looking at Rose Brand Polycyc, a polyester double-knit with pretty good RP qualities especially if used in at least two layers. There will always be some lens image visible but if you can keep the source off-axis it works wery well. We've used it on several productions to good effect. Rose Brand: 800 223-1624 HTH. Steve Rees, TD SUNY-Fredonia Rob Carovillano wrote: >> 2. Can Muslin make an effective rear projection material? >[snipped] ------------------------------ From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: Re: Lexan and Projection Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 15:43:18 -0400 Organization: ETSU Message-ID: <000501c44f23$2f280ca0$6400a8c0 [at] delbert> In-Reply-To: Hi Rob, 2. Can Muslin make an effective rear projection material? One trick that heard used (although I have never tried it myself) is to use bleached white sheeting saturated with a clear oil (painted on the back) to improve the brightness of the image. From what I was told, this trick creates a very inexpensive but effective (and a little messy) rear projection screen. -Delbert ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 20:43:50 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: S/N (was: I'm cranky tonight) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: > In terms of the list, which is what this post was originally about, we have > both contributed to the noise. Yeah, especially since I answered the question in the first response given to it, within a few minutes ;-) Charlie ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20040610200138.92467.qmail [at] web20313.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 13:01:38 -0700 (PDT) From: beth heermann Subject: Re: Lexan and Projection In-Reply-To: > 1. Does anyone know the general rules for how thick > Lexan ... I've used 3/4" w/ supports 2'-0" OC (2' squares of framing not 2x4 rectangles) and 1/2" w/ 1'-0" OC framing. Lexan is brittle so even relatively small amounts of deflection can crack the material. When you go to install adjust the torque on the drills (if you're going to screw it down) so that you don't get cracking around the holes. This is more a problem with thinner sheets, but it can't hurt. > 2. Can Muslin make an effective rear projection > material? If you're looking for cheap RP, shower curtain liners work pretty well. I've used the $1 curtains you can get at Walgreens, difuses the source and gives a fairly crisp image. Good luck Beth Verda Beth Heermann Asst. Technical Director (Dance) Krannert Center for the Performing Arts Asst. Professor University of Illinois - Urbana/Champaign __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 16:09:17 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: R.I.P., Ray A national treasure. He'll be missed. -- Dave Vick, IATSE #274 (sig at half-mast in mourning) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 16:27:20 -0400 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: Lexan and Projection Message-id: <40C8C428.445A21D7 [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References: beth heermann wrote: > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > 1. Does anyone know the general rules for how thick > > Lexan ... > I've used 3/4" w/ supports 2'-0" OC (2' squares of > framing not 2x4 rectangles) and 1/2" w/ 1'-0" OC > framing. Lexan is brittle so even relatively small > amounts of deflection can crack the material. When > you go to install adjust the torque on the drills (if > you're going to screw it down) so that you don't get > cracking around the holes. This is more a problem > with thinner sheets, but it can't hurt. The last time I screwed lexan down, we used neoprene washers to protect the plastic. And if you want to countersink for the screws, drill the countersink first, and then the pilot hole. Otherwise you get a really ragged countersink. Steve L. -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 16:28:34 -0400 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: Not About Nightingales Message-id: <40C8C472.1D1499F4 [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References: Jerry Durand wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > An exception I've seen used on rocket engines (one of the other things I > do) is a main shutoff valve (ball type) and a throttle valve (butterfly, or > other) that can never completely seal. That way even with both closed you > don't break the pipe. This paragraph surprised me until I remember the "Interstellar" part of "Durand Interstellar, Inc" > ---------- > Jerry Durand > Durand Interstellar, Inc. Steve L. -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.0.20040610133656.09358590 [at] localhost> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 13:40:51 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Not About Nightingales In-Reply-To: References: At 01:28 PM 6/10/2004, you wrote: >This paragraph surprised me until I remember the "Interstellar" part >of "Durand Interstellar, Inc" I haven't worked on any engines bigger than the Space Shuttle. :) The biggest rocket built in my driveway was only 8 feet long, all metal (except the nose), and broke Mach 1 in under a second. Hey, we all have our day jobs, and then the jobs we like to do. I just get the two mixed up at times. :) You can see an article about our Rocket Ranch on our web page, just click where it says personal stuff HERE. ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <6728517EECE7D511981B00D0B78290310C2F4036 [at] az33exm27.corp.mot.com> From: Wood Chip-P26398 Subject: Re: Not About Nightingales Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 14:13:29 -0700 Got yeh beat. I worked on the Saturn V booster back in the day. Those F-1's were BIG. After an abort it would take us 8 hours just to drain the LOX. And when the candle was lit, and it mixed with the kerosene, lord a mercy, it was loud. -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Jerry Durand I haven't worked on any engines bigger than the Space Shuttle. :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 17:22:01 -0400 Subject: Re: Braille Sign (Somewhat OT) From: Josh Ratty Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Likely, they simply manufacture one type of button for ATMs, drive up or otherwise, to keep costs down. Josh Ratty On 6/10/04 11:01 AM, "MissWisc [at] aol.com" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > In a message dated 6/10/4 8:36:41 AM, ANikel [at] vlps.com wrote: > < driver.>> > > People who walk up. > > Kristi ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.0.20040610143224.02a259f0 [at] localhost> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 14:34:26 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Not About Nightingales In-Reply-To: References: At 02:13 PM 6/10/2004, you wrote: >Got yeh beat. I worked on the Saturn V booster back in the day. Those >F-1's were BIG. Yep, I stood under an erect Saturn V inside the VAB. The only thing I had to do with that program was my fingerprints (literally) on the Command Service Module used for the Apollo/Soyuz mission. >After an abort it would take us 8 hours just to drain the LOX. And when >the candle was lit, and it mixed with the kerosene, lord a mercy, it was loud. I never got closer than the other shore, I here there was some guy in a row boat next to a launch once. Bet he still says "what" a lot. :) ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1de.223fce90.2dfa37d5 [at] aol.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 18:16:53 EDT Subject: Re: Lexan and Projection In a message dated 10/06/04 20:21:37 GMT Daylight Time, rcarovil [at] sju.edu writes: > 1. Does anyone know the general rules for how thick Lexan needs to be to > support a person and any other tips or tricks for working with it. The > technical specs are far too engineering oriented for me to make sense of. In your job, I think you shold learn to understand them. It's not very hard. Cioming from the UK, I don't even know what Lexan is. > > 2. Can Muslin make an effective rear projection material? Possibly. Proprietary screen materials will work better, as a rule. There is a concept called 'bend angle'. How far do the rays of light need to bend to reach the eyes of your audience, in all parts of the theatre. Working out this involves some scale drawing, but, as a principle, the greater distance between the projector and the screen the better the effect will be. Mirrors can help, but they need to be big ones. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <40C90E5D.9040004 [at] fuse.net> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 21:43:57 -0400 From: Stuart Wheaton Subject: Re: Pit Nets References: In-Reply-To: Stephen E. Rees wrote: > Stuart, > Will you say again who your fabricator is? In my experience they were built in house. I'm sure any major fabricator (Sapsis, or any lesser rigging firm) could put one together for people without the resources to do it in house. A well anchored steel perimeter and either cable or rope net/web... > I think I missed that if it > was here last week. I wholly concur with your estimate of the problem > and did not mean to leave the impression that I thought such protection > unnecessary. I figured you were aware, but I was afraid others might not realize that anything stretched over a pit of any significant depth should be capable of catching a person. > Sorry if such was the case. > > BTDT 2x ?? What is this? been there, done that, twice... Referring to actors entering via ladders from the pit. Stuart ------------------------------ Message-ID: <40C91204.9050308 [at] fuse.net> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 21:59:32 -0400 From: Stuart Wheaton Subject: Re: S/N (was: I'm cranky tonight) References: In-Reply-To: Richard Niederberg wrote: > The fabric of this > discussion list must be woven from strong threads, or the fabric will > fail in its essential purpose of providing wing to the flight of ideas. Damn! That's downright poetic!!! ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040610191203.016d22f8 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 19:12:03 From: CB Subject: Proof Coil, (was Re: No Subject) >> Proof coil chain. Load rated it is. But not for overhead lifting. > >So what is the load rating for if not overhead lifting? As it was explained to me; "'Not rated for overhead lifting' means that the manufacturer is insured for lifting done, say, at a construction site or some other industrial type gig where there isn't anyone under the load. It'll still lift the same amount if someone's under it, but the manufturer skips out on paying for it if anything happens to them." Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040610191438.016d22f8 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 19:14:38 From: CB Subject: Re: S/N >Horrified & chagrined at all the noise my query raised. (I'm the one that >originally asked what does S/N mean.) >I do solemnly swear hereafter not to ask questions, only to listen and learn. >(sign me) >Permanent Lurker No, keep it up. It's questions like that that start the interesting threads. And a lot of that was signal that you raised. The S/N was pretty good on that thread. And never stop asking. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 22:22:55 -0700 Message-ID: From: Robert Spier Subject: Rockets! Re: Not About Nightingales In-Reply-To: References: > You can see an article about our Rocket Ranch on our web page, just > click where it says personal stuff HERE. So, did you meet the end-of-century goal for reaching orbit? ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <6CC990ED-BB6B-11D8-8458-000A95823EDA [at] Nifty-Gadgets.com> From: Paul Puppo Subject: Re: Lexan and Projection Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 22:51:46 -0700 On Jun 10, 2004, at 3:16 PM, FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: > Cioming from the UK, I don't even know what Lexan is. Amerkin to English: Lexan [Plexiglas(r)] = Perspex Paul Puppo [sig omitted] ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #37 ****************************