Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.1.8 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #42 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 03:00:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #42 1. Re: the good ol days by Bruce Purdy 2. Re: Braille Sign (Somewhat [now very] OT) by Shawn Palmer 3. Re: Braille Sign (Somewhat [now very] OT) by "Mike Rock" 4. Re: Braille Sign (Somewhat [now very] OT) by Shawn Palmer 5. Re: Braille Sign by "Rob Carovillano" 6. Welding by "Rob Carovillano" 7. Re: Peanuts, etc.... by Stephen Litterst 8. Re: Screws by "Paul Guncheon" 9. Re: Canadian telephone by "Karl G. Ruling" 10. Re: Canadian telephone by Charlie Richmond 11. Help! LCD Projector-- Speaker Stand Pole Mount? by "Storms, Randy" 12. Re: Welding by "Delbert Hall" 13. Re: Canadian telephone by "Harold Hallikainen" 14. Re: Canadian telephone by Simon Shuker 15. Re: Canadian telephone by Charlie Richmond 16. Re: Canadian telephone by Charlie Richmond 17. Re: Canadian telephone by Charlie Richmond 18. Re: Braille Sign by "Tony Deeming" 19. Re: [spamcatcher] Screws by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 20. Re: Canadian telephone by IAEG [at] aol.com 21. Re: Canadian telephone by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 22. Re: Canadian telephone by Charlie Richmond 23. Re: Canadian telephone by Charlie Richmond 24. Re: Welding by 25. Re: Help! LCD Projector-- Speaker Stand Pole Mount? by 26. Re: Canadian telephone by Rigger 27. Re: Canadian telephone by Jerry Durand 28. wisdom of crowds by StevevETTrn [at] aol.com 29. Re: wisdom of crowds by Wood Chip-P26398 30. Re: Screws by mconn [at] cumberlandcollege.edu 31. Re: Screws (and the sorting thereof) by Jacqueline Haney Kidwell 32. Shameless self promotion by William McLachlan 33. Re: Screws by Shawn Palmer 34. Carriage Bolts by Shell Dalzell 35. Re: Braille Sign (Somewhat [now very] OT) by CB 36. Re: S/N by CB 37. Re: Education by CB 38. Re: Help! LCD Projector-- Speaker Stand Pole Mount? by "Sam Fisher" 39. Re: Shameless self promotion by "will kent" 40. Re: Shameless self promotion by 41. Re: S/N by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 42. Re: Local One Apprenticeships by "Jason" 43. Re: Shameless self promotion by Noah Price 44. Re: sorting screws & other hardware by Steven Hood 45. Re: Canadian telephone by "John Gibilisco" 46. Re: sorting screws & other hardware by Stuart Wheaton 47. Re: Peanuts, etc.... by Steeve Vajk 48. Re: Screws by Steeve Vajk 49. Re: Peanuts, etc.... by "Tony Deeming" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 07:55:34 -0400 Subject: Re: the good ol days From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > Anyway, we thought it was pretty cool and would ride our bikes right > behind the truck so we were engulfed in the toxic fog. Smelled great also. > It's a wonder I'm still alive... Caused brain damage - leading to a life in the Theatre? -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Message-ID: <40CEEE88.8040303 [at] northnet.net> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 07:41:44 -0500 From: Shawn Palmer Subject: Re: Braille Sign (Somewhat [now very] OT) References: In-Reply-To: Kacey wrote- > If I were in your shoes, I'd sit your daycare > provider down and let her know exactly what you expect of her. You are > paying her after all-you are her employer. I'd make it very clear what and > how you want her to discipline your son or handle this situation in the > future. Plus, you don't want your son to think he can break things on your > cupboards too when he gets home because he's allowed to do it at daycare! Kacey, (Now this WAY, WAY OT) Thanks for the words of advice. We told our provider on multiple occasions how to discipline Ross (and numerous other things.) We recently rectified the siuation by getting a different care provider- whom we love. The behavior issues were one thing. Not listening to when we wanted him to have snacks or naps (whithin reason, of course) and plopping him down in front of the TV for long stretches were too much to take. ("oh, he didn't look hungry, so he skipped his snack." "Well, I was doing ____ at his normal nap time, so he went down at 3:30." WTH?) The interview we had with the new provider was quite rigorous! She didn't mind- which was a good sign from the start. I can tie this (maybe :-) to stagecraft by saying this policy is how I deal with my student workers. Rarely do I have to (or want to) get any parent involved. I handle the discipline here. Shawn ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000901c452e1$35ac9ac0$176e1745 [at] Spankythelovemachine> From: "Mike Rock" References:

Subject: Re: Braille Sign (Somewhat [now very] OT) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 09:01:08 -0500 > I can tie this (maybe :-) to stagecraft by saying this policy is how I > deal with my student workers. Rarely do I have to (or want to) get any > parent involved. I handle the discipline here. Why dont you have them sit in a conor counting sorting screws and let them think about what they have done. Mike ------------------------------ Message-ID: <40CF0574.80806 [at] northnet.net> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 09:19:32 -0500 From: Shawn Palmer Subject: Re: Braille Sign (Somewhat [now very] OT) References:

In-Reply-To: >>I can tie this (maybe :-) to stagecraft by saying this policy is how I >>deal with my student workers. Rarely do I have to (or want to) get any >>parent involved. I handle the discipline here. > > > Why dont you have them sit in a conor counting sorting screws and let them > think about what they have done. > > Mike Oy vey :-) Actually, I almost never have to discipline my paid student assistants. It's the "easy" credit seekers in the stagecraft classes that are usually in need of discipline. In that case maybe screw sorting would work :) Sometimes "Fs" or "0s" are effective. Sometimes not. I am very genial until someone does something stupid (and usually unsafe.) Then the ugly monster comes out. It may not be textbook discipline, but it does work and I very rarely have to yell. Shawn ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002101c452ec$1df017d0$a8a44481 [at] rcarovil> From: "Rob Carovillano" References: Subject: Re: Braille Sign Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 11:19:13 -0400 The sign I was referring to in Epcot is located in the World Showcase between England and France. It is not located near any cast members who could help guests. I wasn't aware of another at guest services. Rob Carovillano Technical Director Bluett Theatre Saint Joseph's University rcarovil [at] sju.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <005001c452ed$4378bf10$a8a44481 [at] rcarovil> From: "Rob Carovillano" Subject: Welding Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 11:27:25 -0400 I am looking to take a refresher course in welding and I am having difficulty finding a place that offers individual courses and not whole programs. The one place I had found cancelled its continuing education program. Anyone know where I can take a welding course in the Philadelphia area? Rob Carovillano Technical Director Bluett Theatre Saint Joseph's University rcarovil [at] sju.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 11:39:50 -0400 From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: Peanuts, etc.... Message-id: <40CF1846.434FB042 [at] ithaca.edu> Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts References: Bruce Purdy wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > Our current administration has moved the entire playing field so far to > the right, that for the first time I am a liberal - by default. My positions > haven't changed, but the definitions have shifted. What was once middle of > the road is now on the left! It's also regional. When I lived in North Caolina, I was a Liberal. When I moved to Virginia I was a Moderate/Centrist. When I moved up to Ithaca, I became a Conservative. I still have the same philosophies and approaches to life, but my context is now different. Steve -- Stephen C. Litterst Technical Supervisor Ithaca College Dept. of Theatre Arts 607/274-3947 slitterst [at] ithaca.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <00ba01c452ef$34ad4ad0$0202a8c0 [at] MyLastPC> From: "Paul Guncheon" References: Subject: Re: Screws Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 05:41:19 -1000 >How many of you remove, sort, and reuse screws? Or is it better to always >use new? During a set strike I used to have the crews throw removed (and possibly reusable) hardware into 5 gal. buckets to be sorted later. These became known as "show buckets". I found it worth while to eventually sort through these buckets when I had retained 3 or 4 show's worth. I or a staff member(s) or a volunteer would go through these buckets during down times. It had to be done by someone who knew hardware and what was reusable. The stuff had to be returned to stock by someone who knew our hardware system. I never sorted or reused drywall screws. In my opinion, they are for "one use" only. Using them a second time usually results in the screw snapping or the screw tip slipping out of a stripped or paint filled screw head and imbedding itself in one's finger. I have found square drive screws to be way stronger than drywall screws... also way more expensive. They can be annoying however, when used along with Phillips head screws. The technique of using square drive screws to prevent stack scenery elements from being disassembled during strike has been mentioned before. Build your stock pieces with square drive screws but install them with Phillips drive screws. Give your strike crew only Phillips tips and tell them not to remove any fastener that is a square drive. Laters, Paul "My underwear got caught in my bike wheel," Tom spoke briefly. ------------------------------ From: "Karl G. Ruling" Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 11:50:15 -0400 Subject: Re: Canadian telephone Message-ID: <40CEE277.6144.4DF90E4 [at] localhost> In-reply-to: > > Robertson screws are perhaps the best Canadian invention ever - after > the telephone ;-) > Yeah, but Bell's microphone was almost inaudible. Edison's was better. Nya-nya. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 16:57:23 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: Canadian telephone In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: On Tue, 15 Jun 2004, Karl G. Ruling wrote: > Yeah, but Bell's microphone was almost inaudible. Edison's was > better. Nya-nya. Edison was a weird man - read 'Tesla, Man out of Time' ;-) But so was Tesla ... So is just about any other brilliant person... Charlie ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Storms, Randy" Subject: Help! LCD Projector-- Speaker Stand Pole Mount? Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 09:03:25 -0700 Someplace recently, in one of my catalogs, I saw a picture of an LCD Projector mount designed to slip onto a collapsible tripod-type speaker stand, of the type made by Ultimate, Atlas, etc. Now, of course, I need that very thing and can't locate it again - an exhaustive web search has also turned up nothing. Does anyone know where I can find one of these, or failing that, does anyone have a different solution? This is for a portable outdoor cinema rig, the projector needs to sit about 6' high, and I'm just about out of space in the truck. Thanks in Advance -- r. Randy Storms rstorms [at] bham.wednet.edu ------------------------------ From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: Re: Welding Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 11:58:44 -0400 Organization: ETSU Message-ID: <000201c452f1$a306e2f0$6400a8c0 [at] delbert> In-Reply-To: Many technical and community colleges offer individual courses in welding (that is how I learned to weld in the mid 70's). Many times the instructors are working welders who moonlight as teachers. Courses at community colleges are usually fairly inexpensive. Call your local technical or community colleges to see what is available. Another option might be "adult classes" offered by many high schools. -Delbert -----Original Message----- I am looking to take a refresher course in welding and I am having difficulty finding a place that offers individual courses and not whole programs. The one place I had found cancelled its continuing education program. Anyone know where I can take a welding course in the Philadelphia area? Rob Carovillano Technical Director Bluett Theatre Saint Joseph's University rcarovil [at] sju.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <55797.207.177.227.29.1087315814.squirrel [at] kauko.hallikainen.org> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 09:10:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Canadian telephone From: "Harold Hallikainen" Just finished reading a book about both Tesla and Edison (Empires of Light: Edison, Tesla, Westinghouse, and the Race to Electrify the World by Jill Jonnes). They were interesting people in interesting times. Harold > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > On Tue, 15 Jun 2004, Karl G. Ruling wrote: > >> Yeah, but Bell's microphone was almost inaudible. Edison's was >> better. Nya-nya. > > Edison was a weird man - read 'Tesla, Man out of Time' ;-) > > But so was Tesla ... > > So is just about any other brilliant person... > > Charlie > -- FCC Rules Online at http://www.hallikainen.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 20:12:10 +0400 From: Simon Shuker Subject: Re: Canadian telephone In-reply-to: Message-id: <0HZC00KG9YD41N [at] apmail3.emirates.net.ae> > > Robertson screws are perhaps the best Canadian invention ever - after > the telephone ;-) > Yeah, but Bell's microphone was almost inaudible. Edison's was better. Nya-nya. Am I missing something here I always thought Bell was Scottish? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 17:20:35 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: Canadian telephone In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: On Tue, 15 Jun 2004, Simon Shuker wrote: > Am I missing something here I always thought Bell was Scottish? "A pioneer in the field of telecommunications, Alexander Graham Bell was born in 1847 in Edinburgh, Scotland. He moved to Ontario, and then to the United States, settling in Boston, before beginning his career as an inventor." They all claim him as their own ;-) The Canadians think of him as Canadian because he grew up there IIRC... Charlie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 17:23:52 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: Canadian telephone In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References:

On Tue, 15 Jun 2004, Charlie Richmond wrote: > The Canadians think of him as Canadian because he grew up there IIRC... Nope... not even that. He moved there at the age of 23 and only lived in Ontario for less than a year. Pretty tenuous ;-) Charlie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 17:25:47 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: Canadian telephone In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References:

On Tue, 15 Jun 2004, Charlie Richmond wrote: > Nope... not even that. He moved there at the age of 23 and only lived in > Ontario for less than a year. Pretty tenuous ;-) Aha! Here's the connection: "Summer - In Brantford, Ontario, Bell first conceives of the idea for the telephone. Bell's original sketch of the telephone Bell meets Thomas Watson, a young electrician who would become his assistant, at Charles Williams's electrician shop in Boston." From http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/bellhtml/1870.html OK, I'll stop now... C ------------------------------ Message-ID: <06ec01c452f5$e06691a0$0a01a8c0 [at] Tony> From: "Tony Deeming" References:

Subject: Re: Braille Sign Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 17:29:05 +0100 If I remember, I'll take a look when we go over in August..... (Won't be top of my list, tho....!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Carovillano" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 4:19 PM Subject: Re: Braille Sign > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > The sign I was referring to in Epcot is located in the World Showcase > between England and France. It is not located near any cast members who > could help guests. I wasn't aware of another at guest services. > > Rob Carovillano > Technical Director > Bluett Theatre > Saint Joseph's University > rcarovil [at] sju.edu > > ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <77.2bf47274.2e007e57 [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 12:31:19 EDT Subject: Re: [spamcatcher] Screws In a message dated 14/06/04 23:18:29 GMT Daylight Time, jdurand [at] interstellar.com writes: > I've heard there's some device that TURNS the screws, but > that just seems silly, a hammer to install and pry bar to remove is all you > need. My old woodwork teacher was a very precise man. He always referred to a screwdriver as a screwTURNER. A screwDRIVER, he would say, is a hammer. Mind, how you remove countersunk screws with a pry bar is hidden from me. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 12:36:19 EDT Subject: Re: Canadian telephone In a message dated 6/15/04 12:21:50 PM, charlier [at] RichmondSoundDesign.com writes: << The Canadians think of him as Canadian because he grew up there IIRC... Charlie >> he also pioneer Hydro Planes, and he did that work in Nova Scotia, IIRC very best, Keith Arsenault IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 12:48:07 EDT Subject: Re: Canadian telephone In a message dated 15/06/04 16:50:47 GMT Daylight Time, kruling [at] esta.org writes: > > Robertson screws are perhaps the best Canadian invention ever - after > > the telephone ;-) The variety of screwheads is getting out of order. First, there were straightforward slotted screws. Then Phillips and Posidriv, with different angles. Then Allen, Torx, and I don't know what else. All these last need sized tools. My toolbag is full of them, and is getting so heavy that I can't lift it. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 17:53:54 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: Canadian telephone In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: > The variety of screwheads is getting out of order. First, there were > straightforward slotted screws. Then Phillips and Posidriv, with different angles. > Then Allen, Torx, and I don't know what else. All these last need sized tools. Ah, but the Robertson is earlier than all but the slot version. Virtually every house built in Canada after 1915 has nothing but Robbies in it. It's a beautiful design which immediately appealed to carpenters and totally dominates there. The reason it never caught on was because Robertson sold the exclusive rights to market them in the US to a multinational company called Phillips ;-) Charlie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 17:57:25 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: Canadian telephone In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References:

On Tue, 15 Jun 2004, Charlie Richmond wrote: > Ah, but the Robertson is earlier than all but the slot version. Virtually every http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blscrewdriver.htm or.... http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=%22robertson+screw%22 Enjoy! Charlie ------------------------------ From: Subject: Re: Welding Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 13:15:03 -0400 Message-Id: <20040615171503.QCCS1360.de-fe02.dejazzd.com [at] de-fe02> > Anyone know where I can take a welding course in the Philadelphia > area? Lancaster PA would be a little out of the way but the local Career and Technology Center (formerly Vo-Tech) offers continuing ed classes in welding that I took a couple of years ago. If you don't have any luck I have a contact there that might be able to find something down your direction. Contact me off list if you are coming up empty handed. greg_bierly [at] hempfield.k12.pa.us (717)898-5640 Greg Bierly Hempfield HS ------------------------------ From: Subject: Re: Help! LCD Projector-- Speaker Stand Pole Mount? Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 13:20:46 -0400 Message-Id: <20040615172046.QFRF1360.de-fe02.dejazzd.com [at] de-fe02> > Someplace recently, in one of my catalogs, I saw a picture of an LCD > Projector mount designed to slip onto a collapsible tripod-type speaker > stand, of the type made by Ultimate, Atlas, etc. We use one that mounts onto a pro camera tripod. We have some really heavy duty tripods that will telescope to 6'+. Take a look at B&H photo and video (bhphoto.com) they have a couple of different solutions. Greg Bierly Hempfield HS ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 13:35:27 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Canadian telephone >Robertson screws are perhaps the best Canadian invention >ever - after the telephone ;-) ^^^^^^^^^^^^ You misspelled "Labatt." -- Dave Vick, IATSE #274 Head Electrician, The Wharton Center for Performing Arts at Michigan State University Carpe Per Diem ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.0.20040615122142.0267d1b0 [at] localhost> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 12:22:47 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Canadian telephone In-Reply-To: References:

At 09:20 AM 6/15/2004, you wrote: > > Am I missing something here I always thought Bell was Scottish? > >"A pioneer in the field of telecommunications, Alexander Graham Bell was >born in >1847 in Edinburgh, Scotland. He moved to Ontario, and then to the United >States, >settling in Boston, before beginning his career as an inventor." > >They all claim him as their own ;-) > >The Canadians think of him as Canadian because he grew up there IIRC... What about Grey (Gray?)? I believe he invented it first but was second to the patent office. ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ From: StevevETTrn [at] aol.com Message-ID: <117.3422f4f7.2e00accf [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 15:49:35 EDT Subject: wisdom of crowds Positive affirmation time: Reviewed in USA Today, _The Wisdom of Crowds: Why the Many Are Smarter than the Few and How Collective Wisdom Shapes Business, Economies, Societies and Nations._ suggests that the "wisdom of the list" is indeed the place to look. "Under the right circumstances, groups are often smarter than the smartest people in them." Even if, occasionally, OT. Steve Vanciel Orlando, FL ------------------------------ Message-ID: <6728517EECE7D511981B00D0B78290310C2F45FB [at] az33exm27.corp.mot.com> From: Wood Chip-P26398 Subject: Re: wisdom of crowds Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 13:02:31 -0700 From my work on standard's committees, I would agree that the group is smarter than the individual, but infinitely slower to get anything done. -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of StevevETTrn [at] aol.com Positive affirmation time: Reviewed in USA Today, _The Wisdom of Crowds: Why the Many Are Smarter than the Few and How Collective Wisdom Shapes Business, Economies, Societies and Nations._ suggests that the "wisdom of the list" is indeed the place to look. "Under the right circumstances, groups are often smarter than the smartest people in them." ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1087305177.40cef5d98f925 [at] mail.cumberlandcollege.edu> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 09:12:57 -0400 From: mconn [at] cumberlandcollege.edu Subject: Re: Screws We sort and reuse our screws. The sorting is saved for those students that become self-centered and think they are above everyone else. They need to be reminded that they too had to start somewhere and no one including myself is above the menial labor. Shawn- You must have a Great Budget. Have you compared cost of labor to sort vs. buying new every time? Just curious, not trying to pick a fight. Laterz Moe Conn Designer/TD Cumberland College Theatre Thank You Everyone for Supporting the Long Beach Long Riders efforts to Raise money for Broadway Cares/Equity Fights Aids. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20040615202026.15073.qmail [at] web52004.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 13:20:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Jacqueline Haney Kidwell Subject: Re: Screws (and the sorting thereof) In-Reply-To: --- mconn [at] cumberlandcollege.edu wrote: > We sort and reuse our screws. One all-volunteer community theatre group I work with saves & sorts. It is the best job for the members' children who are too young to 'assist' at strike in any other way--and our music director finds in therapeutic to do something so mindlessly manual. One of our members invented a screw-collector--an old sweat sock with a magnet dropped into the toe. The older kids take turns walking around the stage drgging it. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 13:34:46 -0700 From: William McLachlan Subject: Shameless self promotion Hi all! I just thought I'd brag a bit. A show I designed that's been on the road for the past year (in various forms) is featured on the VLPS North America website. Funny that this week it's totally overshadowed by the big merger press release, but here's the link. The little 4-shot slide show link is in the lower left corner. http://www.vlps.com/NorthAmerica/index.phtml Cheers, Willy McLachlan ------------------------------ Message-ID: <40CF5D92.8040806 [at] northnet.net> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 15:35:30 -0500 From: Shawn Palmer Subject: Re: Screws References: In-Reply-To: > Shawn- You must have a Great Budget. Have you compared cost of labor to sort > vs. buying new every time? Just curious, not trying to pick a fight. > > Laterz > Moe Conn > Designer/TD > Cumberland College Theatre I know you aren't trying to pick a fight. The truth is, I have an obscene scenic budget. You might even say OBSCENE. But all my other budgets stink. I am still trying to have a bit more maneuverability between budgets :-) Shawn ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 10:51:26 -1000 Subject: Carriage Bolts From: Shell Dalzell Message-ID: In-Reply-To: I have been working with hardware for about 40 years and I recognize all of the words in your "answer" but I don't have a clue what you are talking about. Can you explain the relationship between the metal dowel and the hex bolt one more time? I have found that it is very rare for one piece of hardware to solve every problem, but that carriage bolts are certainly useful on many occasions. If there is a big problem with the wood being too soft to grab the square shoulders of the bolt, try looking for a gizmo called a "spur washer" that is sort of like the flange part of a T-nut but with a square hole in the middle . They work very nicely under the head of the carriage bolt. Aloha, Shell > The jackpot answer is to insert a metal dowel, perpendicular to the bolt, > witha suitably tapped hole made across it into which an ordinary hex bolt > screws. > It's more trouble, but it's stronger, and easy to unfasten. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040615135704.016da050 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 13:57:04 From: CB Subject: Re: Braille Sign (Somewhat [now very] OT) >Chris you're assuming the parent is smarter than the child. That's often NOT the case. Yup, I guess I am. I'm just so happy athat all of my teaching happens on a one on one or two on one basis, and I teach adults that have an interest in what I'm teaching. I also have the utmost teacher's luxury. If one of my 'students' show a lack of interest, I get to refer to him as 'useless to me' and send him away! Not that anytime anything doesn't go my way I send the guy packing. But the third time I have to give the same instruction and explain why its done that way to rolling eyes, I stop wasting my time. I guess I'm happy I haven't contributed to the genetic make-up of society as well, but for different reasons. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040615140030.016da050 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 14:00:30 From: CB Subject: Re: S/N >Few of my references are provable. The references do not exist. But this post >suggests that I am a liar. This is something I cannot support. Frank, if I thought you were a liar, I wouldn't hint at it, you know me better than that. I do NOT, for the record, think that you are lying. Nor was I trying to insinuate that you were, I was just pointing out that twenty-eight years of TV engineering doens't mean all that much, if the last year took place twelve years ago, or if the last twelve were horrible. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040615140740.016da050 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 14:07:40 From: CB Subject: Re: Education >Well said as a student that is one thing I dislike 7 hours of being bord, I >understand that not everything can be fun but some teachers are not even >trying. Start paying attention in English class. This isn't a flame, really, as I have learned grammar and puncuation on my own since high school, and as some will note, it shows. As a result, I can't realy parse a sentence in my native tongue. Your sentence should have had mor commas and the occasional period in there. And, yes, I do realize the irony of my posting this response... but it was meant to help, not poke fun. The olde pharte's job is to oint out the pits he has fallen into to those that follow. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ From: "Sam Fisher" Subject: Re: Help! LCD Projector-- Speaker Stand Pole Mount? Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 17:38:02 -0400 In-reply-to: Message-ID: "Someplace recently, in one of my catalogs, I saw a picture of an LCD Projector mount designed to slip onto a collapsible tripod-type speaker stand, of the type made by Ultimate, Atlas, etc. Now, of course, I need that very thing and can't locate it again - an exhaustive web search has also turned up nothing." There are "standard" ceiling mounts available for most projectors that mount the projector to the end of a piece of 1.5" ID pipe. Some "all projector" models are available but most of the better ones are projector specific. If you know the make and model of you projector I can get you a parts number. Sam Fisher VP - Fisher Theatrical, LLC. ------------------------------ From: "will kent" Subject: Re: Shameless self promotion Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 21:52:21 +0000 Message-ID: You got to Work For APC! You lucky bastard! I would like to know more on what you used for the show. Will Kent Lighting Designer by day APC fan by night www.kentlighting.cjb.net _________________________________________________________________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page � FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ From: Subject: Re: Shameless self promotion Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 18:57:18 -0400 Message-Id: <20040615225718.WSLQ1360.de-fe02.dejazzd.com [at] de-fe02> > I just thought I'd brag a bit. Very Nice! I would be proud too. Thanks for sharing. Greg Bierly Hempfield HS ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <12f.442020f7.2e00e314 [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 19:41:08 EDT Subject: Re: S/N In a message dated 15/06/04 22:31:47 GMT Daylight Time, psyd [at] cox.net writes: > Frank, if I thought you were a liar, I wouldn't hint at it, you know me > better than that. I do NOT, for the record, think that you are lying. Nor > was I trying to insinuate that you were, I was just pointing out that > twenty-eight years of TV engineering doens't mean all that much, if the > last year took place twelve years ago, or if the last twelve were horrible. At midnight, I can be a bit tetchy. But if a serious TV outfit has employed me as an engineer for 28 years, I do think that their opinion ought to be taken into consideration. The term 'engineer' has specific meanings, for me. It implies professional skills. It means the guy who can specify the gear, design it, install it, make it work, align it, and teach others how to do all of these. I have done all of these, to the satisfaction of my employer. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: "Jason" References: Subject: Re: Local One Apprenticeships Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 17:55:54 -0700 Message-ID: A day with Bill would be like going to see the circus. it would be fun. but mostly likely hard to find cotton candy thou. From: To: "Stagecraft" > Yeah, and then they get stuck with me for a day. Such a reward! > <> > > Bill S. > ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <724CD762-BF32-11D8-83DE-000A958ABBF8 [at] theprices.net> From: Noah Price Subject: Re: Shameless self promotion Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 18:13:59 -0700 On Jun 15, 2004, at 1:34 PM, William McLachlan wrote: > http://www.vlps.com/NorthAmerica/index.phtml Definitely check it out. I saw the show in San Jose and Willy (and his operator Benny) did an amazing job! Noah ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20040616030208.67182.qmail [at] web20810.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 20:02:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Steven Hood Subject: Re: sorting screws & other hardware In-Reply-To: OK... I've got a question along these lines... I hate sorting screws, so I don't. My production manager tried to save all of them and reuse them, and he would chastise me for throwing them away. My reply was that if the school would find a place to recycle them into easily reusable screws that I didn;t have to waste time fighting with, then I would do that... Here's the question: at what size do you all start saving and re-using stuff? 1/4", #12? Do any of you bother with 5/16" bolts, or do you just use 1/4" and 3/8" and 1/2"? To the one who said that carriage bolts are for metal... That makes sense, but why can't I get a broach for making the square holes in the same store I get my carriage bolts in? Cheers, y'all. Steven __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Message-ID: <00b601c4534f$1cdd3f40$0200a8c0 [at] om.cox.net> From: "John Gibilisco" References:

Subject: Re: Canadian telephone Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 22:07:51 -0500 From: "Charlie Richmond" Subject: Re: Canadian telephone > They all claim him as their own ;-) > > The Canadians think of him as Canadian because he grew up there IIRC... Bell also finished his life in Canada. Cape Breton Island, Baddeck Nova Scotia. Visiting the area his estate/museum was located is one of my favorite spots to vacation. NS/PEI is positively the most scenic area I've visited. Been there 3 times. Looking forward to going back. Maybe the North Atlantic Theater Festival in Wolfville. John Gibilisco Omaha Playhouse. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <40CFBAC9.2050402 [at] fuse.net> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 23:13:13 -0400 From: Stuart Wheaton Subject: Re: sorting screws & other hardware References: In-Reply-To: Steven Hood wrote: > Here's the > question: at what size do you all start saving and > re-using stuff? 1/4", #12? My rule was always, save and re-use galvanised stuff, toss black oxide and the like. Except for gerriets hinges, which are saved. Ususal caveats about bent or buggered threads, heads and so forth... > Do any of you bother with > 5/16" bolts, Most of our stuff is framed in 1" steel tube, and 5/16" is a good fit, keeping washers and the like from overhanging the edges of the frames. I'd say 75% of our bolt joints are done with 5/16". > or do you just use 1/4" and 3/8" and 1/2"? > To the one who said that carriage bolts are for > metal... That makes sense, but why can't I get a > broach for making the square holes in the same store I > get my carriage bolts in? You could easily get a countersink and use Flat Head stove bolts instead. Stuart ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20040616060940.68628.qmail [at] web41603.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 23:09:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Steeve Vajk Subject: Re: Peanuts, etc.... In-Reply-To: Tony Deeming wrote: >Can you REALLY expect everyone else to be able to know exactly what's >in everything they might offer you or sell you, on the basis that >it 'might' do you some harm? No, I expect everyone who 'produces food' to know exactly what's in it, "on the basis" that THEY MADE IT!!!! To keep on topic, for Bill, if you make a drop, and the fire marshall says, "is that fire-proofed fabric?", would you think it OK to respond "I just made it. How should I know???" >I know it isn't your fault you have the allergy problem, but it >certainly is no-one else's, but no-one can be expected to be a mind >-reader, nor can they, as producers or vendors etc, be expected to >stop using some ingredients because of what amounts to a small >percentage of their customers? Did I say that??? No, all I asked for was proper labeling. I clearly said that all I want is to have the information AVAILABLE. I also never asked for ingredients on menus. But I DO expect the chef to be able to tell me every single ingredient in any dish, on request. I expect that specifically because they usually don't know what contains gluten. That's my job. But I can't do that without the ingredients. CB wrote: >>As someone with a (not so) unusual food allergy to >>wheat/flour/barley/etc, I have never expected others to limit >>themselves for my sake. > >and then... > >>However, I fully expect anyone who offers food >>to anyone not in their family, commercially or privately, to know >>what it's made out of. If you can't tell me what's in it, you should >>have no right to sell it. > >So, which one is it? My second statement contains no required limitations; IF you know what it's made out of. To clarify, if you choose to make something for PUBLIC consumption, and someone asks you "did you put any flour in this?" you, as a responsible human adult, should be able to say yes or no. I don't expect them to know that gluten is in vinegar, but if I ask them if they put vinegar in it, they should know that! >The allergy is yours, and you have to take steps to remain healthy. I'm not sure I like your implication. I know a LOT about gluten and the whole grain industry. I have to work around some aspect of my diet every single day. But to give you the benefit of the doubt, the only active steps I can take are to find out what's in food, so that I don't eat the wrong things. And the only way I can do that is if I can TRUST others to know what they put into the food they make. Manufacturers need to understand that this is a matter of TRUST. Go to a Baskin-Robbins, and take a good look at how they label their ice cream. That's good trust-building. Also note what allergens surprised you, given the flavor. As for "May contain...", I have no problem whatsoever with statements like that. If they list something I can't eat, they lose my business, and that's fine. See my past posts on free market. It's a whole lot better than candybars rolling around in unlisted wheat. steeve_vajk [at] yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20040616061324.98039.qmail [at] web41609.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 23:13:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Steeve Vajk Subject: Re: Screws For those that have buckets of used screws laying about... have you considered recycling them? With that much metal, it might actually be worth hauling down to the scrap metal yard for $$$. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002701c45371$b1640af0$0a01a8c0 [at] Tony> From: "Tony Deeming" References: Subject: Re: Peanuts, etc.... Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:15:24 +0100 Unsnipped, this time, for reference..... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steeve Vajk" > > Tony Deeming wrote: > >Can you REALLY expect everyone else to be able to know exactly what's > >in everything they might offer you or sell you, on the basis that > >it 'might' do you some harm? > > No, I expect everyone who 'produces food' to know exactly what's in it, > "on the basis" that THEY MADE IT!!!! To keep on topic, for Bill, if you > make a drop, and the fire marshall says, "is that fire-proofed > fabric?", would you think it OK to respond "I just made it. How should > I know???" > > >I know it isn't your fault you have the allergy problem, but it > >certainly is no-one else's, but no-one can be expected to be a mind > >-reader, nor can they, as producers or vendors etc, be expected to > >stop using some ingredients because of what amounts to a small > >percentage of their customers? > > Did I say that??? No, all I asked for was proper labeling. I clearly > said that all I want is to have the information AVAILABLE. I also never > asked for ingredients on menus. But I DO expect the chef to be able to > tell me every single ingredient in any dish, on request. I expect that > specifically because they usually don't know what contains gluten. > That's my job. But I can't do that without the ingredients. > > CB wrote: > >>As someone with a (not so) unusual food allergy to > >>wheat/flour/barley/etc, I have never expected others to limit > >>themselves for my sake. > > > >and then... > > > >>However, I fully expect anyone who offers food > >>to anyone not in their family, commercially or privately, to know > >>what it's made out of. If you can't tell me what's in it, you should > >>have no right to sell it. > > > >So, which one is it? > > My second statement contains no required limitations; IF you know what > it's made out of. To clarify, if you choose to make something for > PUBLIC consumption, and someone asks you "did you put any flour in > this?" you, as a responsible human adult, should be able to say yes or > no. I don't expect them to know that gluten is in vinegar, but if I ask > them if they put vinegar in it, they should know that! > > >The allergy is yours, and you have to take steps to remain healthy. > > I'm not sure I like your implication. I know a LOT about gluten and the > whole grain industry. I have to work around some aspect of my diet > every single day. But to give you the benefit of the doubt, the only > active steps I can take are to find out what's in food, so that I don't > eat the wrong things. And the only way I can do that is if I can TRUST > others to know what they put into the food they make. Manufacturers > need to understand that this is a matter of TRUST. Go to a > Baskin-Robbins, and take a good look at how they label their ice cream. > That's good trust-building. Also note what allergens surprised you, > given the flavor. > > As for "May contain...", I have no problem whatsoever with statements > like that. If they list something I can't eat, they lose my business, > and that's fine. See my past posts on free market. It's a whole lot > better than candybars rolling around in unlisted wheat. > > steeve_vajk [at] yahoo.com > Steeve, Still with the greatest respect, virtually all of the above responses back up what I've said - the responsibility for your allergy is first and foremost your own, and to be honest, what you say actually bears out that you do in fact accept that responsibility, because you tell us you DO talk to chefs and interrogate ingredient lists etc. So where exactly is your argument here? Yes, some manufacturers are going to be less forthcoming with their ingredients than others whilst some chefs are going to be less knowledgeable about their menu's - hey - that's life! Just like everything else! I recognise that it may be your life (or at least good health) if someone gets it wrong, but frankly that has to be down to you as an adult to weigh up risks based upon past experiences, surely? I take a risk every day when I get into my car, and risk not only my life but those around me too. Maybe not the best comparison, but I have to weigh risks there as in many other daily tasks, but I take that responsibility seriously. Anyway - this thread seems to be taking too personal a tone, which I've never intended it to do, so maybe it's time to draw a line under it. Ynot ___________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #42 ****************************