Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.1.8 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #49 Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 03:00:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #49 1. Re: Weird Dimmer Problem -- help! Dummy Loads? by "Steven Haworth" 2. Re: Weighty Subject by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 3. Re: Weighty Subject by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 4. Re: Fire Code (was Re: Weighty Subject) by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 5. Re: Weighty Subject by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 6. =20 by CB 7. Re: Weighty Subject by CB 8. Re: Weighty Subject by CB 9. Re: Fire Code by CB 10. Re: Weighty Subject by "Tony Deeming" 11. Powerful by "Rob Carovillano" 12. Re: Powerful by "Joe Golden" 13. Re: Powerful by Bsapsis [at] aol.com 14. Re: Powerful by Bsapsis [at] aol.com 15. Re: Powerful by "Randy Whitcomb" 16. Re: =20 by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 17. Metamorphoses Pool Liner by "Steve" 18. Re: Weighty Subject by "Jason" 19. Re: =20 by Ben Eastep 20. Re: =20 by Noah Price 21. Re: Fire Code by "Big Fred Schoening" 22. Re: Weighty Subject by Eddie Kramer 23. Re: Powerful by Greg Williams *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Weird Dimmer Problem -- help! Dummy Loads? Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 11:42:45 -0500 Message-ID: <721DC9EE550F834A92EC08BDC332B0EE01607FDE [at] trader.river.idm.com> From: "Steven Haworth" >Frank, I believe we just went through the math on this before=20 >you re-signed=20 >up to the list. Does someone have the link to the page that=20 >describes this? That'd be me, I think. Here's the old post: Howdy. I came across a really good article on electrical requirements to keep = sound clean in stage environments, where computers, lighting dimmers & = such all interact. It's got some guidelines which probably should be = part of the requirement specs for any new or upgrade performance space. http://ecmweb.com/mag/electric_harmonics_nightclubs_electrical/ - Steven (sjh [at] idm.com) --------------------------- http://www.stagelights.info ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <118.346bd120.2e09bf2d [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 12:58:21 EDT Subject: Re: Weighty Subject In a message dated 22/06/04 00:06:09 GMT Daylight Time, rwhitco [at] comcast.net writes: > I would guess that they don't want people near doors for a couple of > reasons. One would be that if the doors are closed folks could easily drift > into the door's arc and get clobbered when they're opened. I've seen it > happen. Then they get sued for the broken nose. The other reason could be > that groups tend to grow and drift. It's just the same phenomenon as that which creates harbour bars. The ebbing tide runs out through a narrow entrance, carrying silt, and meets the sea. It slows down, and drops all it's carrying, and you get a big sandbank. People behave in much the same way. As soon as they are through a door into an open space, they stop for a chat. It just doesn't occur to them that they are in the way. You can live with this in normal situations, although I find it inconsiderate. In an emergency evacuation, it's dangerous. That's really what the FOH staff are there for. Not for checking tickets, selling ice cream, and showing the punters to their seats. They are there for getting the audience out in an orderly hurry, when it's needed. Stewards on passenger aircraft are there for the same reason. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1e6.2357ab8c.2e09c089 [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 13:04:09 EDT Subject: Re: Weighty Subject In a message dated 22/06/04 00:43:45 GMT Daylight Time, deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com writes: > The stage brooms (Nice 3 ft wide jobs) never seem to be where they should > be, and NO-ONE ever puts the sparky tape back when they're done, making it a > pain when you're trying to coil cables after a get-out!!! We've solved that one! Every cable has a Velcro cable-tie. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <36.5b5284dc.2e09c1f1 [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 13:10:09 EDT Subject: Re: Fire Code (was Re: Weighty Subject) In a message dated 22/06/04 00:46:11 GMT Daylight Time, KateDaly [at] earthlink.net writes: > I think some places have a system where the doors are held open > electromagnetically, and when the fire alarm goes, the magnets cut out & > release the doors. Ppl standing there cld get thwapped in the head. This is true. The fire doors have normal closers, but are held open by magnetic catches, which release when the alarm goes off. Since exit doors should open to a push, it's a great convenience when you're going the other way in a hotel, with a suitcase in each hand. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <104.499e13ee.2e09c687 [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 13:29:43 EDT Subject: Re: Weighty Subject In a message dated 22/06/04 07:16:11 GMT Daylight Time, doomster [at] worldnet.att.net writes: > All blocking of any door is forbidden. Life Safety and Fire Prevention > Codes. doomser It is, rightly, forbidden. It is still often done. Education is the key. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040622113102.01826f40 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 11:31:02 From: CB Subject: =20 >20 >three- TOTAL load=20 >current60A of neutral= >=20 >current. then. Bu= >t it=20 >caused astar-delt= >a=20 How come some of Kristi and Frank's post look great, and some of them have this [=20] problem? It does make the psot a serious birch to read, and at least one of them has told me that there is no difference in the method they use to post. Any clues? Any ideas how to fix it? Any idea why I won't be next? Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040622113450.01826f40 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 11:34:50 From: CB Subject: Re: Weighty Subject >>>> Am I being petty in being annoyed? >>> No. You are right. The traditional doorstop is a fire extinguisher. >> I sincerely hope you were NOT being serious, there.....! > >Well at least if there is a fire... I can see that, The fire door is propped open by the fire extinguisher so that if there IS a fire, teh first action you'd take is to remove the offending door stop... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040622114017.01826f40 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 11:40:17 From: CB Subject: Re: Weighty Subject >Any idea where this came from (like is there really some rule about >standing in a doorway)? They usually have to make their way through a ton of sheep people to get from one are to another. You know the folk I'm talking about. They wlak slow, with no purpose, and spread out to fill any hallway or aisle the use, tehy stop for no reason, torn or back up without warning, and ignore the fact that you are coming at them with purpose and speed. These are the folk that wander, those that are lost, and to stupid to get out of the way in an emergency, just like sheep. At any party or event, you'll see them gathered in a doorway. Yeah, I'd be tempted to tell them the little white lie that they are breaking a fire reg, just so that I wouldn't have to speak to them other than to tell them to move... And, small children aren't reliable enough to be used as doorstops. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040622114716.01826f40 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 11:47:16 From: CB Subject: Re: Fire Code >Ppl standing there cld I think Kate ran out of vowels. I guess o's are the first to go. Here are a few vowels for Kate: ooooooeeeeeeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuuiiiiaaaaaa ------------------------------ Message-ID: <354701c4588d$d50d7b00$0a01a8c0 [at] Tony> From: "Tony Deeming" References: Subject: Re: Weighty Subject Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 20:19:25 +0100 ----- Original Message ----- From: "CB" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 11:34 AM Subject: Re: Weighty Subject > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > >>>> Am I being petty in being annoyed? > >>> No. You are right. The traditional doorstop is a fire extinguisher. > >> I sincerely hope you were NOT being serious, there.....! > > > >Well at least if there is a fire... > > I can see that, The fire door is propped open by the fire extinguisher so > that if there IS a fire, teh first action you'd take is to remove the > offending door stop... > Chris "Chris" Babbie On the assumption that you're NOT taking this seriously as a wind-up, I'm going to leave it alone now.....! 8-))) ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000301c45893$91077b80$a8a44481 [at] rcarovil> From: "Rob Carovillano" References: Subject: Powerful Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 16:00:27 -0400 Congrats to Bill on being named to the 50 most powerful people in Entertainment Technology list. Also to anyone else on the list who was named. I found some documents the other day from a 1982 Sapsis rigging installation here. They were quite a fun read. Rob Carovillano Technical Director Bluett Theatre Saint Joseph's University 610-660-1044 rcarovil [at] sju.edu ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Powerful Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 13:17:57 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Joe Golden" Where did you find this list? > Congrats to Bill on being named to the 50 most powerful=20 > people in Entertainment Technology list. =20 ------------------------------ From: Bsapsis [at] aol.com Message-ID: <87.efaa4b7.2e09f93e [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 17:06:06 EDT Subject: Re: Powerful In a message dated 6/22/04 4:01:51 PM, rcarovil [at] sju.edu writes: << Congrats to Bill on being named to the 50 most powerful people in Entertainment Technology list. Also to anyone else on the list who was named. I found some documents the other day from a 1982 Sapsis rigging installation here. They were quite a fun read. >> Uh....Say What? I got named to what?????? Who's list is that? Bill Sapsis Rigging, Inc. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile We stand behind, and under, our work. ------------------------------ From: Bsapsis [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1e9.237acf7c.2e09fc45 [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 17:19:01 EDT Subject: Re: Powerful In a message dated 6/22/04 4:01:51 PM, rcarovil [at] sju.edu writes: << I found some documents the other day from a 1982 Sapsis rigging installation here. They were quite a fun read. >> 1982? uh oh. Boy, that was a long time ago. IIRC, the Bluett theatre was one of the first places we renovated after forming the company. And the place is still standing??? Cool. Rob, if it's OK I'd love to stop by and take a look sometime. Bill S. Sapsis Rigging, Inc. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile We stand behind, and under, our work. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000701c4589e$5b320ba0$0271ae43 [at] attbi.com> From: "Randy Whitcomb" References: Subject: Re: Powerful Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 15:17:40 -0600 ----- Original Message ----- From: > Uh....Say What? I got named to what?????? Who's list is that? > July 2004 Entertainment Design. Page 19, pic. is on page 18 ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <12a.448073aa.2e0a0276 [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 17:45:26 EDT Subject: Re: =20 In a message dated 22/06/04 20:01:24 GMT Daylight Time, psyd [at] cox.net writes: > How come some of Kristi and Frank's post look great, and some of them have > this [=20] problem? It does make the psot a serious birch to read, and at > least one of them has told me that there is no difference in the method > they use to post. Any clues? Any ideas how to fix it? Any idea why I > won't be next? Information would be appreciated. As far as I know, from AOL 5, I post in straightforward text format. That is why I stick to it. Later versions of AOL post in two-part MIME format, which is why I don't use them. At the same time, the list as run by Noah seems to be more tolerant of these. I should like information. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002001c458b7$f374e400$396b7244 [at] D78YGH41> From: "Steve" Subject: Metamorphoses Pool Liner Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 19:20:55 -0500 If anyone is considering Metamorphoses in the near future, I have a slightly used pool liner. The liner was used in a multi-level 16' X 20' pool that was 36" deep. We used it for three weeks. It has two holes at around 18" where the filter hoses were connected. I figured these could be patched or reused. The liner is a dark blue with a pebble pattern. I hate to see it go to waste, and I DON'T plan on ever doing another show with a pool in it. I am willing to let it go cheap and would like send it to a needy theatre rather than the "village above ground". If you have any questions please feel free to contact me off-list. Thanks, Steve Schepker ------------------------------ From: "Jason" References: Subject: Re: Weighty Subject Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 17:39:20 -0700 Message-ID: It would sink a boat under 50 foot... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chad Croteau" > > Mr. Vick, you obviously haven't tried old consoles for boat anchors... A > lot of the older (heavier) ones are good for holding a small boat in > place... Not that I actually do that of course! Unless the rest of you > do... Then maybe I do.. Do you? > > VBG. :) > > Chad > > > > > ------------------------------ Subject: Re: =20 From: Ben Eastep In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <1087951231.7243.9.camel [at] fish.home> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 18:40:31 -0600 It means that your mail client isn't properly rendering one of the text encodings (which one uses =20 for line breaks isn't coming to me right now...some form of unicode maybe?). Why some messages from the same person would be broken and some wouldn't I have no idea... but if you look at the full headers from the relevant messages, you should see something like "Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"" (that's from your message) if you look at the ones that don't work, you should be able to figure out what encoding you arn't supporting. Once you know that, you could see if newer versions of your mail client might support that encoding, or see if there is some other solution. Ben Eastep On Tue, 2004-06-22 at 05:31, CB wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > >20 > >three- TOTAL load=20 > >current60A of neutral= > >=20 > >current. then. Bu= > >t it=20 > >caused astar-delt= > >a=20 > > How come some of Kristi and Frank's post look great, and some of them have > this [=20] problem? It does make the psot a serious birch to read, and at > least one of them has told me that there is no difference in the method > they use to post. Any clues? Any ideas how to fix it? Any idea why I > won't be next? > Chris "Chris" Babbie > Location Sound > MON AZ > > Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates > negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References:

Message-Id: <8217892A-C4BA-11D8-9FDB-000A958ABBF8 [at] theprices.net> From: Noah Price Subject: Re: =20 Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 19:10:33 -0700 On Jun 22, 2004, at 11:31 AM, CB wrote: > How come some of Kristi and Frank's post look great, and some of them > have > this [=20] problem? On Jun 22, 2004, at 5:40 PM, Ben Eastep wrote: > It means that your mail client isn't properly rendering one of the text > encodings (which one uses =20 for line breaks isn't coming to me right > now...some form of unicode maybe?). Quoted-Printable. > Why some messages from the same > person would be broken and some wouldn't I have no idea... Could be that those mail readers set the encoding based on the message they reply to. Franks post (that CB quoted) was in reply to another post that was encoded "quoted-printable," so his email client replied in the same format. His other posts and replies were not "quoted-printable." > but if you > look at the full headers from the relevant messages, you should see > something like "Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"" It's not the Content-Type but the Content-Transfer-Encoding header. The "=20" appear in messages with the header: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This format is used to allow non-ASCII characters in email, so you may need to be careful to use just letters numbers and regular typewriter symbols to avoid your mail client sending quoted-printable. On Jun 22, 2004, at 2:45 PM, FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: > At the same time, the list as run by Noah seems to be more tolerant of > these. > I should like information. The old server was a bit more restrictive about the text message formats allowed. Noah -- | Noah Price | http://stagecraft.theprices.net/ | | Stagecraft Mailing List | Web issues: stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net | | Web site administrator | Personal: noah [at] theprices.net | ------------------------------ From: "Big Fred Schoening" Subject: Re: Fire Code Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 22:31:05 -0500 Message-ID: <002001c458d2$87f8c320$2a0110ac [at] PRODIGALBRAIN> In-Reply-To: ROFLMAO! Chris, you are a funny, funny man. And for anyone who needs it, I've got some extra punctuation for you: ................,,,,,,,,,,,,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;"""""""""""""""""????????? ???????(((((((((((((((((())))))))))))))))) ...but you only get a couple of these: !!!! Fred -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of CB Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 11:47 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Fire Code For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- >Ppl standing there cld I think Kate ran out of vowels. I guess o's are the first to go. Here are a few vowels for Kate: ooooooeeeeeeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuuiiiiaaaaaa ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 00:12:19 -0400 From: Eddie Kramer Subject: Re: Weighty Subject On 6/22/04 CB sent: >You know the folk I'm talking about. They walk slow,[...] speed. In New York we call them tourist. Eddie -- -------------------- Eddie Kramer IATSE #1 Member NEC Panel 15 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 05:45:02 -0400 Subject: Re: Powerful From: Greg Williams In-Reply-To: Message-Id: On Tuesday, June 22, 2004, at 04:00 PM, Rob Carovillano wrote: > Congrats to Bill on being named to the 50 most powerful people in > Entertainment Technology list. Congratulations, Bill! And for those who don't know it, more congrats are in order. Sapsis Rigging teamed with Flying By Foy to fly the Olympic Torch into Times Square this past weekend. I've seen the replays, and it was fan-tast-ic. Altogether, everyone, on 3. 1... 2... 3... "Yeeeee-haw"! (insert loud congratulatory noise appropriate to your area here). -=Greg Williams=- Production Manager Valborg Theatre Appalachian State University ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #49 ****************************