Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.1.8 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #59 Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 03:01:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #59 1. Directv questions by JAXBEAR31 [at] aol.com 2. Drive wheels, Jordan by "Stirling Shelton" 3. Re: Hawaii by "Paul Guncheon" 4. Re: Platform drive wheel by Loren Schreiber 5. Re: Estimating (was Production Triangle (Good, Fast, Cheap)) by Herrick 6. Re: Is it summer? by Jerry Durand 7. Re: Estimating (was Production Triangle (Good, Fast, Cheap)) by "Michael Finney" 8. Re: Estimating (was Production Triangle (Good, Fast, Cheap)) by David Marks 9. Re: Estimating (was Production Triangle (Good, Fast, Cheap)) by Boyd Ostroff 10. Re: Estimating (was Production Triangle (Good, Fast, Cheap)) by "Paul Schreiner" 11. Re: wireless mics by CB 12. Re: wireless mics by Wood Chip-P26398 13. Re: Production Triangle (Good, Fast, Cheap) by CB 14. Re: Exhibiting Artwork on Brick Wall by Patrice Macaluso 15. Re: Exhibiting Artwork on Brick Wall by "Jon Ares" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 07:46:22 -0400 From: JAXBEAR31 [at] aol.com Subject: Directv questions Message-ID: <11D975E9.2819F41F.021F819D [at] aol.com> Wow...I didn't expect that many questions. I just started to answer some of them today. I will get back to everyone. Its interesting to note that Comcast called me today offering me a job....hmm...cable...satellite....cable...satellite? Money...more money...money...more money..hmmmm Eric S ------------------------------ From: "Stirling Shelton" Subject: Drive wheels, Jordan Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 08:17:00 -0400 Message-ID: Hello: Jordan Woods-Wahl Hamline University Theatre Saint Paul, MN I do not know your budget limits. $100 to broach a keyway sounds pretty good to me. Drive rollers by design have some type of mount to attach to a shaft to transmit power. McMaster-Carr, catalog 109, page 987 to 990 Do you have a drive roller or a wheel? Can you weld to your drive wheel? Weld a Shaft Collar to your current drive wheel! Not pretty. (Re-thinking that idea!!) It is the cost of business. (I try and not nickel and dime this mechanical stuff) (fingers, eyes, toes: cost a lot more than $100 per tire) I try to Buy the right piece of hardware when ever I can. You are looking at a lot of power in your drive system. A heavy duty Drive roller, 8" dia, 3" wide, 1.25" bore, with Key, Urethane (90-95A Durometer) 3500 Lbs, Dynamic Load, is Only $$128.21 (list) My final thoughts. Do not cheese ball this. Fix it right the first time. Cheese ball solutions only save money in the beginning, never in the long run. Good luck and let us know what solutions you do use. Stirling Shelton Technical Director Cincinnati Playhouse in the Park 2827 Gilbert AVE Cincinnati, OH 45206 513-345-2255 ext 302 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002201c46036$8fd92650$0202a8c0 [at] MyLastPC> From: "Paul Guncheon" References: Subject: Re: Hawaii Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 03:14:51 -1000 <> Hmmm... it's a cop show that has a certain amount of humor, drama, and not a little local flavor. I don't have TV (cable) so I can't compare it to other shows, but I enjoyed watching the rough cut of the pilot even though I generally dislike TV. The "local" is real important to me as it separates the show from other series. Those of you who have been to Hawaii may be aware of what I mean by "local". One of the most precious things in Hawaii. It's not a "bikini babe" show at least. Trailer: http://www.nbc.com/nbc/Primetime_Preview_04_05/new_shows.shtml Laters, Paul "I'm testing this boomerang," said Tom triflingly. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20040702074129.02a74e10 [at] mail.sdsu.edu> Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 07:56:14 -0700 From: Loren Schreiber Subject: Re: Platform drive wheel In-Reply-To: Wow! That's some platform drive wheel: 1000 pounds at 300 RPM. Integrating shafts and wheels can be a bit of a struggle, but McMaster Carr (mcmaster.com) has a wide selection of wheels from which to choose. You may want to look at pallet truck wheels. They can carry the load and come in several bore sizes that the Fenner Drives Trantoque keyless bushings can fit up to a 1.25 shaft. They're not really meant for the RPM tho'. They do not meet your diameter needs but perhaps that is adaptable. Are you really intending to move 1000 pounds that fast? If my calculations are correct, you are expecting the platform to move at about 10 feet per second! That must be a big motor too. More information about your project would help. Is the load carried by the gear box? If so, is it cantilevered ? Is a jack shaft a possibility? Loren Schreiber, Director of Technology and Production School of Theatre, Television and Film, San Diego State University ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 11:05:57 -0400 Subject: Re: Estimating (was Production Triangle (Good, Fast, Cheap)) From: Herrick In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <527F5B81-CC39-11D8-B548-0003934521EC [at] hglightingdesign.com> Boyd you Owe Finney $5 now. We know you read the post we can see your inbox from here. I just skimmed it so I'll give him two-fitty (damn loch ness monster) weren't you going to not read the list anymore? hmmmmm.... happy holiday(for USA anyway) -H On Thursday, Jul 1, 2004, at 16:07 America/New_York, Boyd Ostroff wrote: >> > > How much of your time went into writing that last post, and whose > account > is it getting charged to? ;-) > > Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.0.20040702080253.0270e180 [at] localhost> Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 08:07:35 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Is it summer? In-Reply-To: References:

At 07:31 AM 7/1/2004, you wrote: >Anybody on the list into retro-electronics? Nixies? I just sold my last Nixies on eBay. I may still have a paper tape reader in the attic, though. I also have an old crystal radio (a production model, not a Quaker Oats box) along with some other of my father's stuff (like a reference oscillator off his C-47 airplane). Remember Pixie tubes? I haven't seen those since the late 1960's. Of course most of what my wife and I use on a daily basis is new, but we do use some tools that are 40+ years old (they still work, can't just leave them on display). ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Estimating (was Production Triangle (Good, Fast, Cheap)) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 09:02:30 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Michael Finney" On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 Boyd Ostroff <> Heh, heh, heh! Spent about 20 minutes on it (I was ordering a new book and the catalog was next to me already)...and I'll probably track it to either account 200 (General Office) or 201 (General Marketing) or 204 (Educational Outreach)....and then I'll probably have to approve it....and that time will definitely go to 200.1 (General Office - Administration). Isn't it good to be the boss? Grumble, grumble, grumble....mutiny, mutiny, mutiny.... Happy 4th, everybody! Blow things up safely.... Michael Finney Thinkwell Design & Production mfinney [at] thinkwelldesign.com =20 http://www.thinkwelldesign.com =20 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <40E5894F.2070408 [at] davidmarks.cc> Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 12:11:59 -0400 From: David Marks Subject: Re: Estimating (was Production Triangle (Good, Fast, Cheap)) References: Michael Finney wrote: >Isn't it good to be the boss? Grumble, grumble, >grumble....mutiny, mutiny, mutiny.... > > Gasp! Could it be....another Stan Freberg fan???? Dave Marks Senior Doer of Things Hempfield UMC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 12:57:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Boyd Ostroff Subject: Re: Estimating (was Production Triangle (Good, Fast, Cheap)) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 2 Jul 2004, Herrick wrote: > weren't you going to not read the list anymore? hmmmmm.... Yeah, well we all have our moments of weakness ;-) Boyd Ostroff ooo Opera Company of Philadelphia Director of Design & Technology ooooooo 1420 Locust St, Suite 210 ostroff [at] operaphilly.com ooooooo Philadelphia, PA 19102 http://tech.operaphilly.com ooo (215) 893-3600 x225 ------------------------------ Message-Id: <200407021704.i62H4ZnV013507 [at] webmail.longwood.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" Subject: Re: Estimating (was Production Triangle (Good, Fast, Cheap)) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 13:04:35 -0400 In-Reply-To: > > weren't you going to not read the list anymore? hmmmmm.... > > Yeah, well we all have our moments of weakness ;-) I can just see the anti-stagecraft list lobby now railing on about the dangers of list addiction... It is a gateway list, after all...I mean, I started doing Theatre-Sound entirely cuz of this one. I'm not on Show Control yet though...that one's a little too extreme for me right now! :) ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040702123225.01825320 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 12:32:25 From: CB Subject: Re: wireless mics >><< Staple gun? Superglue? (Or better yet, hot glue?) >> >> >> welding > >Naah, skip that. You'd short out the mic cable. >It might be easier to braze the copper, rather than welding it.... Dang wood butchers don't know nuthin'. The easiest way is to hide the mic in a nostril. Great location, perfect off-axis rejection, totally invisible, and you can use an omni OR a cardioid. Simply run the wire into the sinuses and out through the ear canal, tape the wire over the backof the ear and re-attach the connector. The mic should stay in place for the length of the run. For those actors still under warranty, run the mic into the back of the nasal cavity, and out through the mouth. Re-attach the connector, wrap it in a condom and have the actor swallow it. Within 24 hours you can connect it to the pack. Make sure you have the longest cable that you can get your hands on. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <6728517EECE7D511981B00D0B78290310CF977AA [at] az33exm27.corp.mot.com> From: Wood Chip-P26398 Subject: Re: wireless mics Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 13:13:40 -0700 Agree with your procedures, but what is this namby-pamby "re-attach the connector" stuff. Any well trained actor (I know, I know, an oxymoron) should be able to handle the cord with connector attached. -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of CB Dang wood butchers don't know nuthin'. The easiest way is to hide the mic in a nostril. Great location, perfect off-axis rejection, totally invisible, and you can use an omni OR a cardioid. Simply run the wire into the sinuses and out through the ear canal, tape the wire over the backof the ear and re-attach the connector. The mic should stay in place for the length of the run. For those actors still under warranty, run the mic into the back of the nasal cavity, and out through the mouth. Re-attach the connector, wrap it in a condom and have the actor swallow it. Within 24 hours you can connect it to the pack. Make sure you have the longest cable that you can get your hands on. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040702124520.01825320 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 12:45:20 From: CB Subject: Re: Production Triangle (Good, Fast, Cheap) >It is too bad that you spend all the time educating an EC, to only have to >start over at go with the next one. The best education that happened on that project was tha I learned never to do that again. I won't be educationg any EC's in the near future. OTOH, if I were seduced into another project (write a '1' on your check, and continue writing '0's after it until I can no longer keep from giggling) I'd simply tell the subs that it needs to be done my way, I know what I'm doing, and its cheaper to do it my way than do it over my way. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 19:22:11 -0400 Subject: Re: Exhibiting Artwork on Brick Wall From: Patrice Macaluso In-Reply-To: Message-Id: For a simple and truly minimal solution, you might want to look at Brick Clips. They are metal hanging devices that clip onto the 1/8" of exposed face of any brick without damaging or affecting the brick. Apparently they are rated to hold up to 25 lbs each. There are two sizes, so make sure you measure your bricks before ordering. I have seen them in the gardening catalogue at Lee Valley Tools, a Canadian hardware and tool catalogue, and can be seen at their web site at www.leevalley.com. If you find something that works well, let us know! Patrice Macaluso SUNY Oneonta > > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001c01c4608e$d2af1a90$0201a8c0 [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: Exhibiting Artwork on Brick Wall Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 16:46:39 -0700 I was just at a 1-yr old school facility today with similar constraints: the current, trendy 'rough' cinderblock walls in the lobby. They share a lobby with Fine Arts classes. The facility's lobby is rather V-shaped, with Fine Arts and Music classrooms on one side of the V, and the theatres on the other side. There is also a 'balcony' surrounding the lobby below. The balcony is all metal, and with the cinderblock and stained concrete floor, it looks a lot like a central corridor of a prison. They wanted to hang art and displays on these walls, and their solution was elegant and rather invisible, when there's nothing hanging. (Others have already suggested the following, in some form.) This school used good-sized eye bolts (chrome or stainless) in the brickwork up high, just under the metal balcony above. Then they strung clear-coated aircraft cable (1/8" I think) between the eye bolts, using turnbuckles to adjust for stretch. (Again, stainless, or chrome.) All in all, it was invisible, but if you looked, and followed it with your eyes, you saw attractive shiny hardware on each end, so it didn't look like it was a hardware store afterthought. (I'd guess the eye bolts were about 16' to 20' from each other - a long distance, but the turnbuckles kept them taught.) I don't know what they use to actually hang the artwork, as they didn't have any works on display. Others have suggested s-hooks, chain, etc, so I think any of that would be dandy. Just wanted to share an observation. (Does this make my trip out there a business deduction?) :) -- Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #59 ****************************