Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.1.8 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #64 Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 03:00:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #64 1. Re: Musical instrument by "Delbert Hall" 2. Re: Fall arrest and scaffolding by Bsapsis [at] aol.com 3. Re: Platform drive wheel by beth heermann 4. Re: "cracking" crude oil by "Karl G. Ruling" 5. Re: Musical instrument by Bruce Purdy 6. Re: "cracking" crude oil by "Richard Wolpert" 7. Trade Secrets and publicity by Jerry Durand 8. Southern California Mini Conference by "Jon Lagerquist" 9. Re: DCI (Michael Cesario) by CB 10. Re: Musical instrument by CB 11. Re: Southern California Mini Conference by Shawn Palmer 12. Job Postings by Dave Bowman 13. Re: Musical instrument by "Tom Heemskerk" 14. Re: Musical instrument by MissWisc [at] aol.com 15. Re: Musical instrument by IAEG [at] aol.com 16. Job Opening at Pixar by "Steven J. Backus" 17. Re: Musical instrument by David Marks 18. Re: Musical instrument by MissWisc [at] aol.com 19. Re: "cracking" crude oil by Rigger 20. Re: Musical instrument by "Mike Rock" 21. Re: logos onscreen by CB 22. Re: Musical instrument by CB 23. Re: Musical instrument by John Bracewell 24. Re: Musical instrument by seanrmc [at] earthlink.net 25. Re: Musical Instrument by Rick Clever 26. Re: Musical Instrument by seanrmc [at] earthlink.net 27. Re: Musical instrument by MissWisc [at] aol.com 28. Re: Musical Instrument by "Delbert Hall" 29. Re: Musical instrument by 30. Re: Musical Instrument by 31. Re: Musical Instrument by "Andy Leviss" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: Re: Musical instrument Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 06:02:09 -0400 Organization: ETSU Message-ID: <001001c46409$777c13c0$6400a8c0 [at] delbert> In-Reply-To: OK, this just goes to prove my point - the members of this list have such an incredible breath of knowledge that no question can go unanswered (usually several conflicting opinions). Thank you all for more info that I really needed to my little question. -Delbert -----Original Message----- > Um... the smaller bell is used for higher-register passages, since it produces a "brighter" sound with more higher partials/overtones. In other words, the euphonium can sound more like a trombone and less than a tuba up high, and vice-versa down low. The length of tubing, and therefore the pitch, doesn't change when switching bells, afaik. Anyone remember the Baja Marimba Band? They were in a commercial for Coffee-Mate or something like that. Anyway one of them played a double-belled euphonium. The fellow did a sight gag on a TV special I saw - he took a huge drag on his stogey and began a solo, and before long smoke arose from the large bell. Then, magically, smoke came out the smaller bell partway through the same solo passage. Cheap gag, but it worked. th ------------------------------ From: Bsapsis [at] aol.com Message-ID: <143.2d479b57.2e1d32ed [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 07:05:17 EDT Subject: Re: Fall arrest and scaffolding Please note that the type of scaffolding may affect the decision on what type of fall arrest to use, or to not use. The ones with internal steps, (not ladders...actual steps) for example, do not necessarily require fall arrest unless you do not have protection when you get to the top. These tend to be those quick set up types made of aluminum. (Personally, I don't particularly like those) You have to check in with the manufacturer to determine what ANSI standard the device you are using was built to. That standard will determine what the fall arrest situation has to be. Bill S. Sapsis Rigging, Inc. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile We stand behind, and under, our work. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20040707142241.77880.qmail [at] web20328.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 07:22:41 -0700 (PDT) From: beth heermann Subject: Re: Platform drive wheel In-Reply-To: Jordan 10fps is very fast. I missed the initial posts on this subject, so bear with me. Are there any people on this platform? Do you have any objects with high centers of gravity? How long do you have to accelerate and decelerate the load? When you get to this kind of speed, you have to be very careful about stresses on the drive train. Depending on the kind of motor you may also overload. AC motors can only absorb/disperse so much energy during deceleration. You should look into these things before you get too far into power requirements. As always safety should be your first concern. That said, I have a HP calculator on one of my sites at U of I: https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/heermann/www/index2.htm The calculator will show you how much power is required to accelerate a certain load in a defined amount of time to a particular velocity. The results are printed as well as charted so you can see how the variables interrelate. The system design is completely up to you as are the risks associated with motion control design. Also before taking on this project, see Loren Schreiber's post "automation grenades - boom" June 1 of this year. I just like how he put the frustrations in that post. If you need help understanding the terms write me off list or run through the PP presentation. You will need a coefficient of rolling friction. If you do not know it, but are using fairly new casters enter .05 (this is a little overkill, but will suffice). The presentation is PP XP and highly animated. It will not run correctly on earlier versions. Again just drop me a line off list if you have questions. Good luck Beth Verda Beth Heermann Asst. Technical Director The Krannert Center for the Performing Arts Asst. Professor of Theatre University of Illinois [at] Urbana/Champaign --- Jordan Woods wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > First off thanks to all who replied. > > I checked out the drive rollers from McMaster Carr > and > found a great solution-urethane drive rollers with a > keyway and a 2500 pound capcity for only $128(Thanks > Stirling). Turns out getting a cheaper solution was > a > pipe dream. Better to go a with a reliable solution > than try to wing it. > > It is possible to find other solutions, particularly > custom caster wheels. Prices are comparable and so > are load ratings but they manufacture time is way > beyond our window. A gentleman from Hamilton caster > company informed that when caster wheels are used as > a > drive wheel the rated load capacity should be > reduced > by 50%. Again drive rollers are designed for this > use. > > The load is supported from by two pillow blocks on > the > drive shaft. They come from Grainger with a 3,500 > pound dynamic capacity. 10 fps will be high. We > are > using two 3/4 HP DC motors to a 5:1 gearbox. > Another > large challenge is finding an accurate way to > caluclate the required torque to move our load? > Does > anyone have experience doing this? > > Thanks for your assistance everyone. > > Jordan Woods-Wahl > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ From: "Karl G. Ruling" Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 10:44:40 -0400 Subject: Re: "cracking" crude oil Message-ID: <40EBD418.17586.60B0D0A4 [at] localhost> In-reply-to: > Well, it is a Petroleum Distillate, but it is certainly not a > byproduct of gasoline, benzine, or any other '--ine'. It is a > byproduct of the 'cracking' of crude oil to separate out various fuel > oils, gasses, and lubricants of various viscosities, including > gasoline, but it is not a byproduct of gasoline. /s/ Richard > > > You should know that you must use the term Petroleum Jelly, > > a by product of gasoline. Cracking and distillation aren't the same thing. Distillation is simply the separation of the components of mixtures by their different molecular weights by the use of heat. "Cracking," when applied to petroleum products, refers to various methods of breaking long-chain organic molecules into shorter chains. For example, a 24- carbon alkane molecule, which would be a pure paraffin wax, could be cracked (with the addition of two hydrogen atoms) to make two 12- carbon molecules, which would be two molecules of highly refined mineral oil. If you're an oil company and you have a lot of wax but you want a lot of oil, "cracking" is what you do. I can't find what the molecular structure of petroleum jelly is. I suspect it's an alkane (a linear chain of carbon and hydrogen atoms) with about 18 or 19 carbon atoms (more than oil but fewer than wax). Yes, it's distilled from crude oil, just as gasoline is, but I suspect the two compounds are significantly different in structure and composition. Gasoline contains benzene and various other molecules based on the benzene ring, and various amounts of sulfur. In a nutshell: it's bad for you. On the other hand, petroleum jelly is normally considered non-toxic. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 10:58:50 -0400 Subject: Re: Musical instrument From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Delbert wrote: > Since the collective wisdom on the members of this is so extensive, I > thought I would see if anyone knew anything about an odd instrument that > I saw last night at a Cracker Barrel restaurant (hanging on the wall). > The instrument looking like a trumpet, but it only had one valve (turned > 90 degrees to the way trumpet valves are normally positioned). It is > probably some type of bugle, but I have never seen a bugle with a valve. > Anyone ever seen one of these before or know what it is? > Thanks. > There have been several replies from folks FAR more knowledgeable than I. Not knowing one end of a horn from the other, I wouldn't dream of replying to this thread - except ....... Aside from the double bell euphonium, most of the responses refer to modern instruments. This item found hanging on the wall could be a much older (antique?) instrument. I just heard an interesting report on NPR the other day about the "Dodworth Saxhorn Band" and the history of the Saxhorn (Predecessor to many different modern horns). Apparently there were many iterations and variants of the Saxhorn over the years. Any possibility that the instrument was one of those? These things show up in strange places - one of the original instruments that the band found and restored had actually been turned into a lamp! You can find the story at: http://www.npr.org/display_pages/features/feature_3115099.html or http://tinyurl.com/29u2k Just thought it might be relevant. Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ From: "Richard Wolpert" Subject: Re: "cracking" crude oil Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 11:31:45 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Petroleum Jelly encompasses a variety of wax-like compounds that form a colloidal system of hydrocarbons. It is distilled from crude oil, and the commercial/consumer brands are "harmless" in terms of carcinogens. The Vaseline brand is Cheeseborough's patented compound that he distilled and refined from crude and marketed as a balm, skin dressing and oral analgesic... works great on hairballs for your cat! The chemistry involves a mixture of alkanes and other petroleum product impurities in a colloidal mixture. The more it is refined, the "whiter" it becomes. The less refined the product, the higher the possibility of carcinogenic compounds being suspended as impurities in the mix. Karl is correct in saying it is not "cracked" .It is simply refined by various distillation and refining processes. Richard A.Wolpert President Union Connector Co., Inc. 40 Dale Street West Babylon, NY 11704 Ph: 631-753-9550 ext. 204 Fx: 631-753-9560 richw [at] unionconnector.com -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Karl G. Ruling Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 10:45 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: "cracking" crude oil For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- > Well, it is a Petroleum Distillate, but it is certainly not a > byproduct of gasoline, benzine, or any other '--ine'. It is a > byproduct of the 'cracking' of crude oil to separate out various fuel > oils, gasses, and lubricants of various viscosities, including > gasoline, but it is not a byproduct of gasoline. /s/ Richard > > > You should know that you must use the term Petroleum Jelly, > > a by product of gasoline. Cracking and distillation aren't the same thing. Distillation is simply the separation of the components of mixtures by their different molecular weights by the use of heat. "Cracking," when applied to petroleum products, refers to various methods of breaking long-chain organic molecules into shorter chains. For example, a 24- carbon alkane molecule, which would be a pure paraffin wax, could be cracked (with the addition of two hydrogen atoms) to make two 12- carbon molecules, which would be two molecules of highly refined mineral oil. If you're an oil company and you have a lot of wax but you want a lot of oil, "cracking" is what you do. I can't find what the molecular structure of petroleum jelly is. I suspect it's an alkane (a linear chain of carbon and hydrogen atoms) with about 18 or 19 carbon atoms (more than oil but fewer than wax). Yes, it's distilled from crude oil, just as gasoline is, but I suspect the two compounds are significantly different in structure and composition. Gasoline contains benzene and various other molecules based on the benzene ring, and various amounts of sulfur. In a nutshell: it's bad for you. On the other hand, petroleum jelly is normally considered non-toxic. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.0.20040707085150.0277fed8 [at] localhost> Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 09:03:55 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Trade Secrets and publicity I just received a comment that some pictures I have on-line may reveal too much in the line of trade secrets. In this particular case, the request was just that I not announce the link to the pictures on certain mailing lists. Of course I wasn't told WHICH pictures should be removed, so I just removed some closeups. The things this brings up: 1. If your company/organization doesn't want some things "published", there should be some stated policy. 2. If your company/organization encourages picture-taking for use as publicity, see item #1 so the photographer knows what pictures he can publish (if all pictures are only to be turned over to the company, then the photographer should be paid for taking them). Be nice to be able to tell reporters what they can use. 3. I don't really see where not announcing a link on some mailing lists helps all that much. If a competitor wants to find your pictures and you're known to have them on-line, I would imagine they could find them without the link. So, how do your companies/organizations handle this? ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ From: "Jon Lagerquist" Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 11:12:15 -0700 Subject: Southern California Mini Conference Message-ID: <40EBDA8F.6220.900CEAF [at] localhost> Life in Small Theatres Los Angeles 2004 Saturday August 7, 2004 Join us for a day long Theatrical Conference at the Annenberg School for Communications. Los Angeles has a thriving small Theatre community. Against all odds shows are produced in spaces that were once hardware stores, restaurants or sweat shops. This conference is an opportunity for those who live, work and design in these spaces to talk trade ideas and war stories. Its also a chance to elaborate your theatres commitment to historic preservation by bringing your most archaic lighting instrument for the Badass Leko Contest. The Schedule: 9am Check-in 10am Keynote by Alys Holden - Author of Structural Design for the Stage. She is currently the Technical Director of the Center Theatre group at the Mark Taper Forum. Sessions are from 10:30am to 5pm. Lunch is included Production Managers and Owner Sessions contracts liability Managing self produced Vs outside productions Production Managers Round table Technical Director and Designers Sessions Fire Laws for converted spaces Ancient fixtures how to maintain them special effects on the fly Lighting special effects Special events Bring your favorite old moldy lighting fixture to compete in the Badass leko contest Please fill out and return the information below. Sign-up for 4 sessions. Session 1 Contracts or Fire laws in converted spaces Session 2 Liability or Ancient Fixture Maintenance Session 3 Managing Productions or Special Effects on the Fly Session 4 Production Managers Round table or Lighting Special Effects Lunch - Please pick one Sandwich Roast Beef Turkey Vegetarian Cost $40.00 Includes: * 4 sessions * Lunch * Membership in the SoCal Section of USITT Annenberg School for Communication University of Southern California 3502 Watt Way Los Angles, CA To reserve your spot Mail your check to Southern California Section USITT PO Box 2197 Costa Mesa CA 92628-2197 ******************************** Jon Lagerquist Technical Director [at] South Coast Repertory Costa Mesa, CA ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040707105257.018288e0 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 10:52:57 From: CB Subject: Re: DCI (Michael Cesario) > costumes for porn ? there are costumes ? > >but if course! It's boring if they all start naked! Where's the fun in >that? Ah, my favorite response to the lookey-lous that invariably show up on an outdoor location. "What are you shooting?" "Gay porn for shut-ins" always seems to kill the usual follow-up questions... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040707105950.018288e0 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 10:59:50 From: CB Subject: Re: Musical instrument Alf was mis-quoted as saying: >The difference between a chain saw and ephonium being able to >tune a chain saw? If you fill a chainsaw with gas, people don't throw lit matches at you? If you see someone carrying a chainsaw, you suppose that they can cut a tree down? Fewer people complain if you run a chainsaw at two in the morning? Their both sharp, but neither will stay that way very long? Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <40EC459A.8060104 [at] northnet.net> Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 13:48:58 -0500 From: Shawn Palmer Subject: Re: Southern California Mini Conference References: In-Reply-To: > Special events > Bring your favorite old moldy lighting fixture to compete in the > Badass leko contest Too bad I am in Wisconsin. I have a collection of these moldy fixtures that usually makes people cry and beg for those nasty long Ariel Davis PAR 64ish things with stepped lenses (NOT fresnel lenses.) They make my lousy gray Century Strands with nasty stepped lenses look positively light years ahead. Have fun! Shawn Palmer Neenah, WI USA ------------------------------ Message-ID: <40EC4A43.8050905 [at] syr.edu> Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 15:08:51 -0400 From: Dave Bowman Organization: Syracuse Stage/SU Drama Subject: Job Postings References:

In-Reply-To: Hey Gang! Still a few positions left here at Syracuse Stage for the 04-05 season. Please email me directly with questions or to submit your cover, resume, and reccomendations by email (I'll pass the Scenic Artist and Craftsperson submissions along). Faxed submissions can be sent to my attention at 315-443-9846 or snailmailed to: Syracuse Stage Dave Bowman - Electrics Dept. 820 East Genesee Street Syracuse, NY 13210 dave B. ++++++ Syracuse Stage, a leading LORT theatre affiliated with Syracuse University, is accepting resumes for the following positions for our 04-05 season. Most positions start in mid-late August: Assistant Scenic Artist: Responsibilities include assisting Resident Charge Artist in execution of stage productions, shop maintenance and serving as liaison to the University's drama department production/artistic teams. Must have strong organizational and communication skills, work well with students, and possess a working knowledge of scenic painting techniques and tools. Applicants MUST include 2-4 images of their work. Car/transportation is essential as the paint space is off-site. Costume Craftsperson/Shopper: Responsibilities include all manner of costume crafts including millinery, fabric modification, and footwear. Shopper duties include shopping with designers, and purchasing general shop supplies. Electrics Apprentice: Responsible for the run and maintenance of the lighting rig for all performances. Assist in hang/focus/strike of shows. An excellent opportunity to work closely with seasoned professionals. All candidates must be able to manage time well and work effectively with students and professionals in a fast paced environment. Syracuse Stage encourages women and people of color to apply. EOE. -- David M. Bowman Syracuse Stage / SU Drama Master Electrician / Adj. Professor dmbowman [at] syr.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <013801c4645c$59c889a0$17e2f4cc [at] oemcomputer> From: "Tom Heemskerk" References: Subject: Re: Musical instrument Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 12:55:22 -0700 ----- Original Message ----- > >The difference between a chain saw and euphonium... Vibrato..... but it's not so bad if you hold the chainsaw really tight.... ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <46.5297efef.2e1db26c [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 16:09:16 EDT Subject: Re: Musical instrument <> You can't hide a can of beer in the bell of chain saw. Kristi ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <143.2d5280b8.2e1db4df [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 16:19:43 EDT Subject: Re: Musical instrument In a message dated 7/7/04 4:10:07 PM, MissWisc [at] aol.com writes: << You can't hide a can of beer in the bell of chain saw. Kristi >> You can't drink a can of beer while it's in the bell of a chain saw, , BUT ( and you HS age folks on the list should now go surf some other site and come back in a few minutes ) what we used to do in HS band was put a plastic flask in the inside coat pocket of our band jacket, and run a plastic tube up the arm, , and under the watch band, , a few pieces of surgical tape helped as well and then right up the side of our thumb horns up! and you had a nice hit of the liquor du jour, , (usually rum or gin in those days) on cold cold nights, , or long Gasparilla Parades, , it was quite welcome ok, , the HS age folk can step back in the room now, , very best, Keith Arsenault IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 14:36:01 -0600 (MDT) From: "Steven J. Backus" Subject: Job Opening at Pixar Message-ID: A friend sent this to me saying I should apply, thought I'd pass it on as I'm not ready to pick up and move. It looks like a fantastic opportunity for the right person: If you need a new job, there is this one for you: http://www.pixar.com/companyinfo/jobs/openings/lightingtechdirector.html Or maybe one somewhere else: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5385466/ Steve ------------------------------ Message-ID: <40EC60D2.5060303 [at] davidmarks.cc> Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 16:45:06 -0400 From: David Marks Subject: Re: Musical instrument References: IAEG [at] aol.com wrote: >what we used to do in HS band was put a plastic flask in the inside coat >pocket of our band jacket, > Gee, I thought that's what the metal trumpet and trombones mutes were for. Worked for us back in the day..... Dave Marks Senior Doer of Things Hempfield UMC Lancaster, PA ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <155.390bb7fc.2e1dc60c [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 17:33:00 EDT Subject: Re: Musical instrument Cc: IAEG [at] aol.com In a message dated 7/7/4 3:20:37 PM, IAEG [at] aol.com wrote: <> And that's another way to make the knife "bleed" in Sweeny Todd! ;) (Gotta tie it back into theatre somehow!) Kristi ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 18:19:13 -0400 From: Rigger Subject: Re: "cracking" crude oil At 10:44 AM -0400 7/7/04, Karl G. Ruling wrote: > I can't find what the molecular structure of > petroleum jelly is. I suspect it's an alkane... Petroleum jelly (or, more properly, petrolatum) is indeed an alkane, along the lines of mineral oil. I can't find the structure either. -- Dave Vick, IATSE #274 Head Electrician, The Wharton Center for Performing Arts at Michigan State University Carpe Per Diem ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001301c46473$f47ce920$176e1745 [at] Spankythelovemachine> From: "Mike Rock" References:

Subject: Re: Musical instrument Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 17:44:25 -0500 I remeber one year it was so cold we had to use vodka to keep the valuves from freezing, I was not part of this but the bus ride was rather long and I can only asssume what my fellow band mates were doing. All I know is the rest of my line had a hard time keeping in step when we got to the parade. Mike Rock Bad Ass Low Brass ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040707161317.0183b0b8 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 16:13:17 From: CB Subject: Re: logos onscreen > I'm fully aware of what Vaseline on the lens is for, CB. :) That's why I put the caveat that I'd included that in there for burgeoning DP's and film directors, so as to not have them ask me to shoot around a blob on the lens. I was pretty much positive that YOU knew what it was for. Now, when the PA's come back from the store and the receipts are for condoms and vaseline, and the sound guy told the Exec's mom that they were shooting gay porno for shut-ins, things start to go a bit wacky in the petty cash dept. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040707162059.0183b0b8 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 16:20:59 From: CB Subject: Re: Musical instrument >P.S. - Sean you are NOT a geek! Yes, he is. He's a geek. Fortunately, he's found a list and an occupation with a *very* high geek factor. All ahead, geek factor nine! ------------------------------ Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20040707194952.00abc7e8 [at] pop.lightlink.com> Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 19:51:13 -0400 From: John Bracewell Subject: Re: Musical instrument In-Reply-To: References:

>I remeber one year it was so cold we had to use vodka to keep the valuves >from freezing, I was not part of this but the bus ride was rather long and I >can only asssume what my fellow band mates were doing. All I know is the >rest of my line had a hard time keeping in step when we got to the parade. A good sip of something potent was also a good way to keep the damn mouthpiece from freezing to your lips on a sub-freezing night on the football field! Too bad I didn't know about it back when I needed it. But at that point I was too moral to do such a wicked thing! -- JLB ------------------------------ Message-ID: <768308.1089244899352.JavaMail.root [at] huey.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 17:01:39 -0700 (PDT) From: seanrmc [at] earthlink.net Subject: Re: Musical instrument Thanks Chris.... You are very right--the list IS really sort of a geek group therapy! "Hello, my name is Sean and I'm a theatre geek!" --Sean Sean R. McCarthy seanrmc [at] earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: CB >P.S. - Sean you are NOT a geek! Yes, he is. He's a geek. Fortunately, he's found a list and an occupation with a *very* high geek factor. All ahead, geek factor nine! ------------------------------ Message-ID: <40EC9170.8060502 [at] sbcglobal.net> Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 20:12:32 -0400 From: Rick Clever Subject: Re: Musical Instrument References: In-Reply-To: From: seanrmc [at] earthlink.net >Subject: Re: Musical instrument > >So, a (well, not so) brief history lesson from the resident drum corps geek= >.... > > That makes two of us. In fact I'll be at a major show in Kalamazoo Saturday and another one in Indy at the end of the month. And just to really bring this full circle I'll probably run into Michael Cesario at one of the two shows. Who did you march with sean? Rick Clever Pride of Cincinnati '83 Lead bari ------------------------------ Message-ID: <12796778.1089247635597.JavaMail.root [at] huey.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 17:47:15 -0700 (PDT) From: seanrmc [at] earthlink.net Subject: Re: Musical Instrument Rick wrote >That makes two of us. In fact I'll be at a major show in Kalamazoo >Saturday and another one in Indy at the end of the month. >Who did you march with sean? Rick... Northern Aurora (Div III Saginaw, MI) '95 & '96 -- Lead Soprano Crossmen (Div I Newark, DE) '97 -- Soprano 2 I'm sure you'll see a big contingent from NA/Saginaires (old name) at K-zoo. I know many of the alums will be there. Anyone else want to admit to a summer or three of sanctioned debauchery and petty theft/tresspassing (also known as a drum corps tour). *grin* --Sean ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <115.34d7f102.2e1dfb12 [at] aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 21:19:14 EDT Subject: Re: Musical instrument Cc: psyd [at] cox.net In a message dated 7/7/4 6:50:43 PM, psyd [at] cox.net wrote: <> Gee Chris... When was the last time YOU bit the head off a live chicken as a side show act? ... nevermind... I'm not certain I want to know. <> Kristi ------------------------------ From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: Re: Musical Instrument Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 21:55:36 -0400 Organization: ETSU Message-ID: <000001c4648e$aa9176d0$6400a8c0 [at] delbert> In-Reply-To: I never realized that we could have a Stagecraft list marching band. Maybe some presidential candidate will want us to play at a rally. We could be on Letterman. We could be famous - if we weren't drunk or too busy doing theatre. -Delbert ------------------------------ From: Subject: Re: Musical instrument Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 23:13:47 -0400 Message-Id: <20040708031347.SLUW16889.de-fe01.dejazzd.com [at] de-fe01> > You are very right--the list IS really sort of a geek group therapy! You finally put in into words for me! Hi my name is Greg I have been on the list for two years (and a geek all my life.) My mothership has called me home. Greg Bierly Hempfield HS ------------------------------ From: Subject: Re: Musical Instrument Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 23:19:07 -0400 Message-Id: <20040708031907.SNHM16889.de-fe01.dejazzd.com [at] de-fe01> > I never realized that we could have a Stagecraft list marching band. Sign me up. Toronto? Nah, they would probably throw us out of the convention center. Greg Bierly Hempfield HS ------------------------------ From: "Andy Leviss" Subject: Re: Musical Instrument Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 01:42:50 -0400 Organization: Duck's Echo Sound Message-ID: <005c01c464ae$683d6e40$2802a8c0 [at] AndyLeviss> In-Reply-To: Delbert wrote: > I never realized that we could have a Stagecraft list > marching band. Maybe some presidential candidate will want us > to play at a rally. We could be on Letterman. We could be > famous - if we weren't drunk or too busy doing theatre. Well, if we're going marching band and not strictly drum corps, count me in on Alto or Soprano sax. I played a year or two of Bari Sax, but that was not a pretty thing--sounded like the damned thing was going through puberty! --Andy, now flashing back through many memories of marching band competitions at Giants Stadium back in high school :o) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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