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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #74

 1. Re: Perhaps we can ALL agree to protest this one!
    by Mike Brubaker <mdbrubaker [at] insightbb.com>
 2. Re: Interstellar Winch Design
    by StevevETTrn [at] aol.com
 3. Re: shop a/c
    by Steven Hood <hoodnik77 [at] yahoo.com>
 4. Re: Perhaps we can ALL agree to protest this one!
    by "Michael Eddy" <michael [at] plasa.org>
 5. Re: Perhaps we can ALL agree to protest this one!
    by MissWisc [at] aol.com
 6. Re: I have a request
    by Bsapsis [at] aol.com
 7. Lighting Elements Textbooks
    by "Gilliam, Joshua M." <Joshua_Gilliam [at] baylor.edu>
 8. Re: Lighting Elements Textbooks
    by Richard Niederberg <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
 9. Re: Lighting Elements Textbooks
    by Rachel Steck <rsteck [at] darkwing.uoregon.edu>

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Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.0.20040717064957.02bed278 [at] mail.insightbb.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 06:52:13 -0500
From: Mike Brubaker <mdbrubaker [at] insightbb.com>
Subject: Re: Perhaps we can ALL agree to protest this one!
In-Reply-To: <list-3904325 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-3904325 [at] prxy.net>

According to the Academy of Television Arts and Sciences, the nominees in 
Art direction this year do, indeed, include Horration Hornblower, Pancho 
Villa, and the angel.  UPI reported accurately.  Take a look:

http://www.emmys.org/webcast/awards/artdirect.php

Mike

At 04:24 PM 7/16/2004, RICHARD FINKELSTEIN wrote:

>When I learned that the Emmie Awards recently were announced I ended up on
>the UPI news service feed page at
>
>http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20040715-064510-6225r
>
>It looked great at first, VERY thorough....that is until I got down to the
>technical/ design area.
>
>According to them the nominees in "Art Direction" this year include Horratio
>Hornblower, Pancha Villa, and some kind of angel that came to the US!!!!


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From: StevevETTrn [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <85.10c4769a.2e2a7444 [at] aol.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 08:23:32 EDT
Subject: Re: Interstellar Winch Design

mfpowers writes:
>...back to the original  reason for this thread.... 
>...to reduce the drum diameter so that  motorized line sets 
>could be placed on closer centers.

Many years  ago, I worked in a facility with motorized line sets for the 3 
electrics.   That was the sum total of the rigging system (not counting the main 
 drape).

Even though line spacing was not particularly an issue, the  motors/wenches, 
for the massive 20 feet of travel, were offset from each other  both 
vertically and horizontally due to limited off-stage space  (NONE).

This same idea could be applied to getting closer line sets on a  non-Vortek 
system.

Steve Vanciel
Orlando, FL

P.S.  There  was no training provided in the inspection or maintenance of 
this system.   If it runs, use it. If it doesn't, call the vendor.  The operator  
"training" consisted of pointing out where the key switch was located.  


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Message-ID: <20040717125853.13409.qmail [at] web20808.mail.yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 05:58:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steven Hood <hoodnik77 [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: shop a/c
In-Reply-To: <list-3908254 [at] prxy.net>

I'd imagine Stuart's right. I'm in academia, and I've
got all the a/c I want... My shop stays within a
couple degrees of 70, year-round. I've only got dust
collection on our miter saw, but it sees more action
than any tool in the shop (take that how you will).
Anyhow... There are other areas that I wish were
provided for a bit better that some of you guys could
hold out and laugh at me over, so I bite my tough and
cringe at the heat you guys deal with rather than
laugh... Our "brother" shop that is run by CBN itself
doesn't have a/c, though... They're been trying to get
mgmt to give them a building on-site for a long time,
but they need "too much space"... Their shop is bigger
than my entire theatre building, I think...

Anyhow, happy weekend y'all.
Steven


		
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From: "Michael Eddy" <michael [at] plasa.org>
Subject: Re: Perhaps we can ALL agree to protest this one!
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 09:31:21 -0400
In-Reply-To: <list-3908756 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <auto-000003909197 [at] prxy.net>

Mike,

I think you missed Richard's point. The UPI news service site lists only =
the
show titles, with no personal names of designers and technicians. The =
Emmy
site fully credits the actual people who did the work, not just the =
show.

Michael S. Eddy
Lighting&Sound America
=A0
michael [at] plasa.org
www.lightingandsoundamerica.com

>According to the Academy of Television Arts and Sciences, the nominees =
in=20
>Art direction this year do, indeed, include Horration Hornblower, =
Pancho=20
>Villa, and the angel.  UPI reported accurately.  Take a look:

>http://www.emmys.org/webcast/awards/artdirect.php

>Mike

At 04:24 PM 7/16/2004, RICHARD FINKELSTEIN wrote:

>>When I learned that the Emmie Awards recently were announced I ended =
up on
>>the UPI news service feed page at
>>
>>http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=3D20040715-064510-6225r
>>
>>It looked great at first, VERY thorough....that is until I got down to =
the
>>technical/ design area.
>>
>>According to them the nominees in "Art Direction" this year include
Horratio
>>Hornblower, Pancha Villa, and some kind of angel that came to the =
US!!!!


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From: MissWisc [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <1d8.267e6244.2e2ad13e [at] aol.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 15:00:14 EDT
Subject: Re: Perhaps we can ALL agree to protest this one!

<<The UPI news service site lists only the show titles, with no personal 
names of designers and technicians. The Emmy site fully credits the actual people 
who did the work, not just the show.>>

That's not too much different than the awards show itself... the "stars" get 
their photo on screen and if they win they get to thank everyone and their 
dog. 
Technical people are lucky to get 3 seconds of fame IF they win. 

Then again, I've never heard of an Oscar winner in a tech category demanding 
$20 million for his next picture either. :)

UPI is all about selling papers, not accurately recording events.

Kristi

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From: Bsapsis [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <d4.1185b579.2e2b4ae6 [at] aol.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 23:39:18 EDT
Subject: Re: I have a request

Hi gang.   I need your help.  (no, I don't need you to send money.  At least, 
not yet.)

This is me wearing my ETCP certification committee co-chair hat.

As part of the process in developing the Rigging Certifications...yes, there 
are two...I'll explain that in a minute ... the certification committee needs 
to send out a survey to a group of people.  A large group.  This survey is to 
help establish three  things.  The tasks that riggers most commonly do.  The 
amount of time devoted to those tasks and the ramifications of an accident 
involving those tasks.

According to the companywe've hired to oversee this certification process we 
would like to send this survey out to about 2,000 people.  1,000 of them would 
be Arena Style riggers and the other thousand would be theatrical style 
riggers.

So.  If you think you qualify as an Arena style rigger (you work with truss 
and chain hoists on a regular basis) or as a Theatrical style rigger (you do 
load ins/outs and run shows in a relatively traditional stage house venue) or if 
you know someone who qualifies, I would ask you to contact the ETCP 
certification manager via e-mail and give her your name and e-mail address.  you will 
also need to identify yourself as either an Arena Style rigger or a Theatrical 
style rigger.  If you think you are both, that's OK too.  You should identify 
yourself that way.  In the very near future she will send you the survey for 
you to fill out and return.  

Her name is Katie Geraghty and her e-mail address is <kgeraghty [at] esta.org>

This whole certification thing is very important and it would be great if we 
had your help.  If you have any questions, please contact me off list and I'll 
try to answer them.  I'm bound by the confidentiality clause associated with 
this program so there's not too much more I can say, but I'll do my best to 
answer your questions.

On behalf of myself and the ETCP, thank you.
Be well

Bill  S.



Sapsis Rigging, Inc.
www.sapsis-rigging.com
800.727.7471
800.292.3851 fax
267.278.4561 mobile
We stand behind, and under, our work.
                             


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Subject: Lighting Elements Textbooks
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 23:33:25 -0500
Message-ID: <A70E9334F5CB2A438077F53FBD3043BE75E5B8 [at] FS-EXCHANGE1.baylor.edu>
From: "Gilliam, Joshua M." <Joshua_Gilliam [at] baylor.edu>

I am the master electrician at Baylor University and I am looking for a
textbook that would teach the lighting students the basis of lighting,
along with the history and make-up of the most used lighting instruments
including moving lights and control consoles.  Any help would be greatly
appreciated.

Joshua Gilliam
Master Electrician
Department of Theatre Arts
Baylor University

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Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 22:50:04 -0700
Subject: Re: Lighting Elements Textbooks
Message-ID: <20040717.225011.3732.5.ladesigners [at] juno.com>
From: Richard Niederberg <ladesigners [at] juno.com>

Dear Joshua,
        'Lighting the Stage ~ Art and Practice' (3rd Ed.) by Dr. Williard
Bellman is a good start, as you have specified your need for a textbook,
and not an homage to McCandless, et al. More advanced students could
appreciate 'Stage Lighting' by Richard Pilbrow, while those students who
are ready to make lighting a career should obtain 'The Business of
Theatrical Design' by James Moody. 'The Magic of Light' by Jean Rosenthal
will show students some the best work by an American Lighting Designer,
while 'The Scenography of Joseph Svoboda' by Jarka Burian will show
students some of the best work by a European-style [Czech] lighting (and
scenic) designer. At no time or place am I trying to disparage 'Scene
Design and Stage Lighting' by Parker and Smith, which has been a
'workhorse' text for decades, but you requested a book for lighting
students.
/s/ Richard

> I am the master electrician at Baylor University and I am 
> looking for a textbook that would teach the lighting students 
> the basis of  lighting, along with the history and make-up of 
> the most used lighting instruments including moving lights and 
> control consoles.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> Joshua Gilliam

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Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 01:34:34 -0700
Subject: Re: Lighting Elements Textbooks
From: Rachel Steck <rsteck [at] darkwing.uoregon.edu>
Message-ID: <BD1F842A.3A1%rsteck [at] darkwing.uoregon.edu>
In-Reply-To: <list-3913654 [at] prxy.net>

Joshua,
I think "A Practical Guide to Stage Lighting" by Steven Shelley is an
excellent book for a beginning student as well as the professional (I have
used it as a resource in both my academic and professional fields - higher
education and LORT).  It is not the end-all-be-all of stage lighting (as it
lacks the history) but it is a useful book in that it teaches us how to
organize plots and paperwork as well as how to manage paperwork, people,
venues, etc.  But for  $14.99, it is a great addition to any classroom: from
lighting design to technical theater to stage management.  If only all of us
were as well prepared as Shelley.
Sincerely,
RK Steck
PS You can take a look at it via this webpage:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0240803531/104-9870013-3483141
?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance


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