Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.1.8 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #83 Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 03:00:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #83 1. Re: Music Video by "Paul Guncheon" 2. Balls (was: Music Video) by Boyd Ostroff 3. Re: Balls (was: Music Video) by IAEG [at] aol.com 4. Re: Cad help by "Booth, Dennis" 5. Re: Jessica Simpson video location by "James Niesel" 6. Re: 4x8 by Dorian Kelly 7. Re: 4x8 by Charlie Richmond 8. Re: 4x8 by Richard Niederberg 9. Re: Music Video by "Daniel J. Kelly" 10. Re: Music Video by IAEG [at] aol.com 11. Re: basic skill levels - was:High school musical lighting by CB 12. Re: Test by CB 13. Re: basic skill levels - was:High school musical lighting by IAEG [at] aol.com 14. Re: Music Video by CB 15. Re: Wenger 4' x 4' platform for sale (OT) by "Music Ministry" 16. Re: Test by Steve Larson 17. Re: Homemade Gobo by "Kelleher, Susan" 18. National Theatre stagehands by clindau 19. Re: Test by "don taco" 20. Re: Test by "Jon Ares" 21. Re: basic skill levels - was:High school musical lighting by Eddie Kramer *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <001601c4730e$ee5b1720$0202a8c0 [at] MyLastPC> From: "Paul Guncheon" References: Subject: Re: Music Video Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 02:49:02 -1000 <> I tried to buy a rubber ball at Kay-Bee Toys... nada. They sold no balls of any kind. No models either at that time. Lots of "action" figures and Barbies. I would have to say that Ms. Simpson is probably not the problem with the video. She most likely can sing... just not that song (not that anybody can or should. I'm curious as to how such a boring melody and with tepid lyrics ever came to be recorded). The creative process seemed to have stopped with "she'll be in a white dress in an old theatre". Maybe it went as far as "I know, she'll spin in circles for a while then she'll sing to herself in a mirror." Whoopee. Laters, Paul "The exit is right there," Tom pointed out. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 09:26:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Boyd Ostroff Subject: Balls (was: Music Video) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 26 Jul 2004, Paul Guncheon wrote: > I tried to buy a rubber ball at Kay-Bee Toys... nada. > > They sold no balls of any kind. I always suspected that the people at Kay-Bee didn't have any balls, thanks for confirming that. However, that evil empire WalMart does sell them. I know because I bought several of various sizes a couple months ago to use in some props we were building. But after our previous discussions here everyone knows that WalMart has a lot of balls. So the big question is, did you finally get some balls? > No models either at that time. A little over a year ago I was doing a strange project where I wanted pieces of model cars. I'm pretty sure I found some at Kay-Bee then. But I do remember getting a bunch of them at Toys 'R Us. Boyd Ostroff ooo Opera Company of Philadelphia Director of Design & Technology ooooooo 1420 Locust St, Suite 210 ostroff [at] operaphilly.com ooooooo Philadelphia, PA 19102 http://tech.operaphilly.com ooo (215) 893-3600 x225 ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 09:34:08 EDT Subject: Re: Balls (was: Music Video) In a message dated 7/26/04 6:27:51 AM, ostroff [at] operaphilly.com writes: << > No models either at that time. A little over a year ago I was doing a strange project where I wanted pieces of model cars. I'm pretty sure I found some at Kay-Bee then. But I do remember getting a bunch of them at Toys 'R Us. >> try Michael's Arts & Crafts very best, Keith Arsenault President IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida 813 831 3465 Mr. Arsenault's Office 813 205 0893 Mr. Arsenault's Cellular www.iaeginc.com ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Cad help Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 10:13:38 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Booth, Dennis" One method I've used is to draw lumber stock as polylines. You can give a polyline not only two dimensions, but three, which is useful in 3d drawing. In this manner you can represent each piece of lumber (or steel) as a dimensional object. DGB Dennis Gill Booth, Technical Director North Carolina School of the Arts=20 School of Design and Production=20 1553 South Main Street=20 PO Box 12189=20 Winston-Salem, NC 27117-2189=20 * Voice: (336)770-3232 x127=20 * FAX: (336)770-3213=20 * Email: boothd [at] ncarts.edu=20 * D&P URL: http://www.ncarts.edu/ncsaprod/designandproduction/=20 * Faculty URL: http://faculty.ncarts.edu/dandp/booth/ -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Mike Rock Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 11:10 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Cad help For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- I'm trying to teach myself ato cad and have a quick question. The book that I am useing to guide myself has not mentioned anything about adding thickness to lines so they would represent stock lumber sizes, how would one go about this? Thanks for any advice. Mike ----------------------------------------------=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content and is believed to be clean. ---------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Jessica Simpson video location Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:33:09 -0400 Message-ID: From: "James Niesel" The Saenger Theatre in New Orleans is taking the credit: See: http://www.saengertheatre.com/ Jim Niesel Theatre Projects Consultants > Subject: Does anyone recognize this Theater? > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see=20 > > --------------------------------------------------- > > The pop singer, Jessica Simpson's, new video "Angel" takes place on=20 > and backstage of an empty theater and I was wondering if anyone here=20 > recognizes the venue. If you can't stand her singing > just turn the volume down. =20 ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 16:36:20 +0100 From: Dorian Kelly Subject: Re: 4x8 >And for crikey's sakes would it be so bad to call it 122 CENTImeters by >244 CENTImeters? :) This side OTP it wouldnt conform to the Units of Measurement Regulations 2001. These Regulations amend the Units of Measurement Regulations 1986 and the Weights and Measures Act 1985 in order to implement Directive 1999/103/EC, which amends Directive 80/181/EEC on the approximation of the laws of Member States relating to units of measurement. Clear now? DK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 16:49:18 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: 4x8 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References:

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004, Dorian Kelly wrote: > This side OTP it wouldnt conform to the Units of Measurement Regulations > 2001. These Regulations amend the Units of Measurement Regulations 1986 and > the Weights and Measures Act 1985 in order to implement Directive > 1999/103/EC, which amends Directive 80/181/EEC on the approximation of the > laws of Member States relating to units of measurement. Clear now? Absolutely! These are fighting words for sure! And no wonder so many in the UK are dead set against Brussels ruling their lives! Defend the rights of the cm!!! Charlie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 09:15:33 -0700 Subject: Re: 4x8 Message-ID: <20040726.091545.2680.0.ladesigners [at] juno.com> From: Richard Niederberg This sounds worse than an ANSI, SMPTE and NEC joint session, meeting with an AES working group, at the end of a public comment period! /s/ Richard > This side OTP it wouldnt conform to the Units of > Measurement Regulations 2001. These Regulations > amend the Units of Measurement Regulations 1986 > and the Weights and Measures Act 1985 in order to > implement Directive 1999/103/EC, which amends > Directive 80/181/EEC on the approximation of the > laws of Member States relating to units of measurement. > Clear now? ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Message-ID: <410534AE.9070303 [at] dca.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 12:43:26 -0400 From: "Daniel J. Kelly" Subject: Re: Music Video References: In-Reply-To: > We have so much more potential to do things thanks to CGI but it seems > music videos don't use it. I think the same can be said for concert lighting design. With color mixing fixtures and boards like the Whole Hog and the GrandMA, there's an unprecedented level of control, but so many shows out there barely venture beyond the prefabricated looks that can be automatically generated by these boards. -- Daniel J. Kelly Philadelphia, PA, USA ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1a9.269bc153.2e3695e3 [at] aol.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 13:14:11 EDT Subject: Re: Music Video In a message dated 7/26/04 9:44:18 AM, limejuice [at] dca.net writes: << I think the same can be said for concert lighting design. With color mixing fixtures and boards like the Whole Hog and the GrandMA, there's an unprecedented level of control, but so many shows out there barely venture beyond the prefabricated looks that can be automatically generated by these boards. -- Daniel J. Kelly Philadelphia, PA, USA >> Created by competent board operators who flaunt themselves as "designers" in many cases. Just because you know how to run a "Hog" doesn't make you a designer, Sorry, but that's a common complaint of mine. very best, Keith Arsenault IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040726112610.0182f300 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:26:10 From: CB Subject: Re: basic skill levels - was:High school musical lighting > I'm told the Local 1 IA entry test has nothing to do with stagecraft. Uhm, I think its a DNA test... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040726112920.0182f300 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:29:20 From: CB Subject: Re: Test >Or what NOT to do. Trim your replies. ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1ee.262cfc71.2e36a4a2 [at] aol.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:17:06 EDT Subject: Re: basic skill levels - was:High school musical lighting In a message dated 7/26/04 11:14:45 AM, psyd [at] cox.net writes: << > I'm told the Local 1 IA entry test has nothing to do with stagecraft. Uhm, I think its a DNA test... >> I just finished a week on a corporate show in Chicago, , , some of the Local 2 crew might not test positive for DNA, , , was not a pleasant experience Keith Arsenault IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040726113153.0182f300 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:31:53 From: CB Subject: Re: Music Video >Remember the cool cartoon/live video of "Take On Me" by A-Ha? OK, now that's going to be stuck in my head all day... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <0b7001c47341$fff91940$65011dc7 [at] USER012> From: "Music Ministry" References: Subject: Re: Wenger 4' x 4' platform for sale (OT) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 13:54:07 -0500 Dave, Have you sold this yet? Is it just a platform, or does it have any other features? How much are you asking? Kyle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Reynolds" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 2:18 PM Subject: Wenger 4' x 4' platform for sale (OT) > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hi folks, > > I don't know if this is the right place to post this announcement, so > please forgive me if it is not the right place to post this announcement. > > I have a Wenger 4' x 4' Versalite platform in like-new condition that I > want to sell. It has at lease 2 pairs of adjustable legs. I have used it > maybe 2 times since purchasing it. E-mail me off-list for more details. > > Dave Reynolds > SONBURST Productions > > A man finds joy in giving an apt reply - and how good is a timely word! > --Proverbs 15:23, New International Version > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:41:54 -0400 Subject: Re: Test From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: on 7/26/04 11:29 AM, CB at psyd [at] cox.net wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > >> Or what NOT to do. > > Trim your replies. > > A vulture boards an airplane, carrying two dead raccoons. The stewardess looks at him and says, "I'm sorry, sir, only one carrion allowed per passenger." ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Homemade Gobo Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:16:57 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Kelleher, Susan" Rather than using the aluminum can or turkey roasting pan try aluminum flashing. You can buy it in rolls from any hardware store. It is usually about 8" or 12" wide and can be cut to the width of a gobo holder. That way you can just make your pattern on a rectangular blank and not need a gobo holder. Good when you need a lot of gobos and don't have enough holders for all your fixtures. Susan M. Kelleher Full Sail ------------------------------ Message-ID: <410589D3.4010507 [at] mninter.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:46:43 -0500 From: clindau Subject: National Theatre stagehands References: Mark--did you happen to work with Martin Mardon, Dave Hutchinson aka Bingo, or Ian Cahill? I worked with them here in Minneapolis when the NT's production of Hamlet came to the Guthrie in spring 2001. Great guys, every one. And boy can they drink.... Ian, sadly, died the following October. Very suddenly; it was very sad. When I find myself in London, I always try to stop in at the NT (with a little warning of course--I don't have an old keycard), and usually am treated to a quick tour of whatever is on stage at the moment. I love that greenroom. And how about that teeny, tiny elevator to the grid?!? Cindy Lindau Guthrie Theater, Minneapolis ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mark O'Brien wrote-- "In 1989, I took Steppenwolf's production of Grapes O' Wrath to the NT. We played the Lyttleton theatre, and I must say the stagehads were outstanding. Load in in NYC = 30 days,l La Jolla, CA, 10 days, and London was 2 days (of course we only had 2) The spot lines in the Olivier were pretty cool, however it was the full stage drum revolve that got my attention. I watched them 'Corkscrew" a castle out of the deck for the M play. A few years later, when in town for a visit, I used my old keycard to gain access to the hallways. I found myself in the greenroom, and ordered a beer. I was soon surrounded by the stagehands I had worked with earlier. It was if I had never left. A few days later, I was finally able to buy a few rounds, only because it was the 4th of July." ------------------------------ Message-ID: <009101c4736f$15791f40$a8db3b45 [at] taco> From: "don taco" References: Subject: Re: Test Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:16:59 -0700 Why raccoons? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Larson" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 12:41 PM Subject: Re: Test > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > on 7/26/04 11:29 AM, CB at psyd [at] cox.net wrote: > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > >> Or what NOT to do. > > > > Trim your replies. > > > > > A vulture boards an airplane, carrying two dead raccoons. The stewardess > looks at him and says, "I'm sorry, sir, only one carrion allowed per > passenger." > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001001c47370$38589f80$0201a8c0 [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References:

Subject: Re: Test Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:25:27 -0700 > Why raccoons? > > ...because antelope are too heavy to carry on to the plane. Har har...... -- Jon Ares Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:36:08 -0400 From: Eddie Kramer Subject: Re: basic skill levels - was:High school musical lighting On 7/26/04 CB sent: >Uhm, I think its a DNA test... Chris- You left the smiley :-) off your post. (We only take Humans in our apprentices program). Yours in fun, Eddie -- -------------------- Eddie Kramer IATSE #1 Member NEC Panel 15 ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #83 ****************************