Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #90 Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 03:01:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #90 1. Re: scenography in relation to puppetry by StevevETTrn [at] aol.com 2. Re: MSDS was:Olympic Torch Help by StevevETTrn [at] aol.com 3. Re: High school musical lighting by David Duffy 4. Re: Those darn balloon drops by Shawn Palmer 5. Re: Politics by "Paul Guncheon" 6. Re: Those darn balloon drops by IAEG [at] aol.com 7. Re: Those darn balloon drops by Dorian Kelly 8. Re: Politics by Steve Larson 9. Re: Politics by ken [at] kenholyoak.com (Ken Holyoak) 10. Stage-acceptable Cigars (herbal?) by "Michael M. Harvey" 11. Re: scenography in relation to puppetry by "ayusaya" 12. Re: Those darn balloon drops by "Joe Golden" 13. Re: Stage-acceptable Cigars (herbal?) by "Elliott Family" 14. Stage-acceptable Cigars (herbal?) by CB 15. position by Shawn Palmer 16. Looking for CAD blocks of casters... by Michael Heinicke 17. Sony question by Shawn Palmer 18. Re: Sony question by Steve Larson 19. Re: Politics by Herrick 20. A hard day, time for a libation by Steve Larson 21. Re: MSDS was:Olympic Torch Help by MissWisc [at] aol.com 22. Re: Politics by ken [at] kenholyoak.com (Ken Holyoak) 23. Re: Politics by IAEG [at] aol.com 24. Re: MSDS was:Olympic Torch Help by Richard Niederberg 25. Re: A hard day, time for a libation by "Jon Ares" 26. Re: Politics by Fred Fisher 27. Re: Politics by "Jon Ares" 28. Re: Politics by Charlie Richmond 29. Re: A hard day, time for a libation by "Matthew Breton" 30. Re: Politics by Dale Farmer 31. Re: MSDS was:Olympic Torch Help by Dale Farmer 32. Re: Looking for CAD blocks of casters... by Patrick McCreary 33. Re: Balloon Drop by Magellan315 34. My Career Plan -- input wanted! by mat goebel 35. Re: Hello and lineset question by Bsapsis [at] aol.com *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: StevevETTrn [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1d0.275c6c6f.2e3f7b2f [at] aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 07:10:39 EDT Subject: Re: scenography in relation to puppetry Stathis writes: >Have you ever thought that often in your work (if not always) you deal with a >world closer to puppet world than to human's one? Have you looked at the writings of one Edward Gordon Craig? He was an early 20th century Briton who had some ideas along these lines. Some rejected his ideas as physically impractical and even degrading to actors. But, it might give you something to consider as a precedent. In contrast, look at by Robert Edmund Jones. This short work is considered by many to be the very best expression of the aspirations of the scenographer's art. Steve Vanciel Orlando, FL ------------------------------ From: StevevETTrn [at] aol.com Message-ID: <197.2c6b6721.2e3f7c42 [at] aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 07:15:14 EDT Subject: Re: MSDS was:Olympic Torch Help >My files are also devoid of any notices from the Consumer Product Safety Commission >specifically regarding exposure to airborne fumes or other particulate matter that is >the byproduct of the combustion or melting of food grade paraffin. Are there any? >/s/ Richard > >it uses FOOD GRADE paraffin, so there are no toxic fumes... > I am always puzzled by this line of reasoning. My concern is for the line of reasoning that equates a Food Grade rating with a nontoxic status. After all, even healthy foods can become a health problem if consumed in sufficiently large quantities. I have not researched this particular product so I cannot comment on the byproducts of its combustion. Since I know the owner of the GAM company, I would not expect his products to be a problem. However, if I should chose to use the product, I would need to exercise due diligence in evaluating fully any risks that might be associated with that use. SteveV ------------------------------ Message-ID: <410E2786.80404 [at] audiovisualdevices.com.au> Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 21:37:42 +1000 From: David Duffy Subject: Re: High school musical lighting References: In-Reply-To: CB wrote: >>But first- why should anyone not having at least the >>basics of McCandless be lighting a show. To provide >>a bright light on the actors so all the parents can >>videotape the show? >> >> > >Sometimes you don't have the luxury of getting experienced crew. Sometimes >they just point to a pile of lighting gear in the corner and sy, "Have at >it, Chris!" and you get lightrs designed by a soundman who doesn't even >know who McCandless is. Sometimes you have the choice of a volunteer that >knows very little, but is very enthusiastic and willing to go to the >internet and ask what the proper procedure is, or nothing at all. Which >would you choose? > Well, an update to what happened with this HS musical. Overall it was a great success. Boy, am I tired though! :-) I ended up with about 20 fixtures spread out over 4 areas. Having only 15 dimmer channels and a 24 way lighting desk proved to be a little limiting but I squeezed it all in! I'm already thinking about what could have been better so we can improve on it next time. The headset intercom that I made came in handy a few times and the telephone ringer (made that too!) for the stage prop phone added to the fun. The hardest thing was keeping track of the 6 wireless mics while they swapped between actors as required. A meter bridge on the mixer would have made it easier to see who was on what mic channel at a glance. Maybe next time. Things did go wrong at times (usually 30 min before curtain) and tempers did flare occasionally but overall the kids really did work hard and put on a fantastic performance. I learned a lot and all the knowledge that you kind folks on this list have contributed sank in and made my life easier. :-) David... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <410E3D60.9080801 [at] northnet.net> Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 08:10:56 -0500 From: Shawn Palmer Subject: Re: Those darn balloon drops References:

In-Reply-To: Fred Fisher wrote: > I'd love to get confetti cannons for my facility but I'd have to make my > crew clean it up because I don't want to put an extra burden on the > building staff. Yeah. I've used (past tense) twenty-two confetti cannons in here until recently. Building staff does NOT like that type of clean-up. Nope- not at all. The last time I used them I had my crew clean up about 95% of it, but that 5% was still enough to put them over the edge. Oh, well. I really like confetti cannons. Shawn Palmer Pickard Civic Auditorium ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001801c47893$23f30030$0202a8c0 [at] MyLastPC> From: "Paul Guncheon" References: Subject: Re: Politics Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 03:18:01 -1000 > PS Vote John Kerry. Why settle for the failure we have?> Can we please keep politics off the list? We have been subjected to incessant blather about the upcoming election for almost a year now. It is nice to have a quiet place of cogent thought. It's nice to have this place too. Laters, Paul "I don't think this poem is long enough" said Tom, adversely. ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <5b.550bb56b.2e3f9c14 [at] aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 09:31:00 EDT Subject: Re: Those darn balloon drops In a message dated 8/2/04 6:11:38 AM, shawnp [at] northnet.net writes: << > I'd love to get confetti cannons for my facility but I'd have to make my > crew clean it up because I don't want to put an extra burden on the > building staff. Yeah. I've used (past tense) twenty-two confetti cannons in here until recently. Building staff does NOT like that type of clean-up. Nope- not at all. The last time I used them I had my crew clean up about 95% of it, but that 5% was still enough to put them over the edge. Oh, well. I really like confetti cannons. Shawn Palmer Pickard Civic Auditorium >> I used giant confetti cannons from Sigma Systems, I believe that they are the same or similar model to what they provided for the Stones tour. (Sigma is here in the Tampa Bay area , , they design and build the LSG for LeMaitre and the giant flame throwers as well as custom confetti systems, interestingly they started as a company that dealt with the flash freezing of citrus products) Each one throws a 33 gallon garbage can full of "flutter fetti" about 50' to 60' in the air in about 8 seconds. each cannon is powered by dual tanks. I had one on each side of the stage "in one" and we blew them at the finale of the event ( in a proscenium theatre ) they were angled out toward the stage and created a complete confetti curtain over the curtain calls. It was truly an amazing sight. Of course four hours later, there were still pieces of confettin falling from the fly loft. Damn that stuff really sticks to velour legs and borders ! very best, Keith Arsenault IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 14:48:37 +0100 From: Dorian Kelly Subject: Re: Those darn balloon drops >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > >Fred Fisher wrote: > > >> I'd love to get confetti cannons for my facility but I'd have to make my >> crew clean it up because I don't want to put an extra burden on the >> building staff. > >Yeah. I've used (past tense) twenty-two confetti cannons in here until >recently. Building staff does NOT like that type of clean-up. Nope- >not at all. The last time I used them I had my crew clean up about 95% >of it, but that 5% was still enough to put them over the edge. Oh, >well. I really like confetti cannons. > >Shawn Palmer >Pickard Civic Auditorium Even worse used outdoors. As a finale to an outdoor Shakespeare in the Park tour I has just one small MTFX hand operated confetti tube. The crew did not appreciate crawling around on hands and knees in the pitch dark fishing fetti out of the bushes, nor did the industrial vac /leaf blower work. But what an effect! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 10:10:20 -0400 Subject: Re: Politics From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: I agree. But.... This is probably going to be the most important election in the last 100 years. Be active, but please do so off the list. Steve on 8/2/04 9:18 AM, Paul Guncheon at paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > >> PS Vote John Kerry. Why settle for the failure we have?> > > Can we please keep politics off the list? We have been subjected to > incessant blather about the upcoming election for almost a year now. > > It is nice to have a quiet place of cogent thought. > > It's nice to have this place too. > > Laters, > > Paul > > "I don't think this poem is long enough" said Tom, adversely. > > > ------------------------------ From: ken [at] kenholyoak.com (Ken Holyoak) Subject: RE: Politics Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 09:21:33 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040802142324108.AAA2624 [at] image.theimagefactory.com [at] compaq> Every one of us has probably made up their mind as to which side of the fence we are on. It's bad enough that we will have to endure the campaign commercials et al that are targeted at the small percentage of our citizens who do not have the desire or brain cells to make a decision. It is sad that the uninformed will be the ones that determine the outcome in November. Work the poles, help your candidates, but keep it off the list. Kenneth H. Holyoak Information+Insight=Profit HIG, LLC Mail POB 68633 Indianapolis IN 46268-0633 UPS 1508 E 86th Street Suite 177 Indianapolis IN 46240 ken [at] kenholyoak.com 317-253-7000 FAX 317-255-3708 -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Steve Larson Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 9:10 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Politics For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- I agree. But.... This is probably going to be the most important election in the last 100 years. Be active, but please do so off the list. Steve on 8/2/04 9:18 AM, Paul Guncheon at paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > >> PS Vote John Kerry. Why settle for the failure we have?> > > Can we please keep politics off the list? We have been subjected to > incessant blather about the upcoming election for almost a year now. > > It is nice to have a quiet place of cogent thought. > > It's nice to have this place too. > > Laters, > > Paul > > "I don't think this poem is long enough" said Tom, adversely. > > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <410E5023.6090003 [at] scicable.net> Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 09:30:59 -0500 From: "Michael M. Harvey" Subject: Stage-acceptable Cigars (herbal?) References: In-Reply-To: I thought I would offer something unique to this thread, like an answer instead of a lecture. There are pipe tobacco cigars that are fairly mild and because they are flavored give off a more pleasant aroma to the non-cigar smoking types. I did a goggle search and found the following: http://www.cigarsforless.com/Cigars_in_US/Middleton.htm. I would also try www.Thompsoncigar.com or your local tobacconist. Hope you have a successful production. Michael M. Harvey Production Manager Central Lakes College www.clcmn.edu/mharvey ------------------------------ Message-ID: <003001c478a0$650bf740$a4dacdd4 [at] fasoulein> From: "ayusaya" References: Subject: Re: scenography in relation to puppetry Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 17:44:39 +0300 Organization: ayusaya puppet theatre Thank you Steve and Richard, You both have added some precious links to our research. Obviously Craig's theory about the UberMarionete is related to our subject. But Craig wrote it addressing to the actor and (roughly speaking) demanded from him/her to turn into a puppet. In our research, another side of a similar (or maybe the same) issue is being examined: While Craig wished the actor could turn into a Super-Puppet, we examine scenography as a constant puppet factor in actors' theatre and the results of this coexistance (mainly from the scenographer's point of view). I think that one major fact that connects scenography with puppets and not with actors is that they share the same sincerity opposite the audience: They are what they say they are: A fake reality or better: a Real Fakery. They don't need to pretend anything, they expose their real self in front of the audience. A scenic river for example was "born" as a river (fake one obviously - even the best naturalistic/ realistic river is well known by the audience that it's not a real one since it is found in a theatre) and that's what it claims to be. So does the puppet. An Actor pretends to be someone else than his/her real character (except in some cases where he PRETENDS to be himself). One could say that through his/her interpretation of the role he/she reveals him/herself. But there is a difference between the two natures and the way they expose themselves. (No need to say that all these do not make the actor's profession less important.) best regards, Stathis Ayusaya Puppet Company e-mail: ayusaya [at] otenet.gr site: www.geocities.com/ayusayapup tel/fax: +030-210-5141252 ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Those darn balloon drops Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 08:24:00 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Joe Golden" Actually all balloon company's are non-union. My wife is a Certified Balloon Artist and it is a specialty, so most of the unions don't want to do it. As Alf said there is a convention in LV in August, but the big one was in May in Anaheim this year. If you can get to one of those shows they show some amazing things made out of balloons. Check out www.qualatex.com Joe > --------------------------------------------------- >=20 > Must have used a non-union company! >=20 >=20 ------------------------------ From: "Elliott Family" Subject: RE: Stage-acceptable Cigars (herbal?) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 09:52:53 -0700 Message-ID: <000a01c478b1$2abe8510$6400a8c0 [at] chicago1927> In-Reply-To: Michael, Thank you very much for your advice! I'll give it a go and let you all = know! Warmest regards, John Elliott "I've always wanted to be normal,=20 but lately I've had a strong suspicion that=20 this is it." --T. Skinner. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Eliminate annoying spam! My mailbox is protected by iHateSpam, the #1-rated spam buster. http://www.ihatespam.net -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Michael = M. Harvey Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 7:31 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Stage-acceptable Cigars (herbal?) For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- I thought I would offer something unique to this thread, like an answer=20 instead of a lecture. There are pipe tobacco cigars that are fairly mild and because they are=20 flavored give off a more pleasant aroma to the non-cigar smoking types. I did a goggle search and found the following:=20 http://www.cigarsforless.com/Cigars_in_US/Middleton.htm. I would also=20 try www.Thompsoncigar.com or your local tobacconist. Hope you have a successful production. Michael M. Harvey Production Manager Central Lakes College www.clcmn.edu/mharvey ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040802110712.01840b38 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 11:07:12 From: CB Subject: Stage-acceptable Cigars (herbal?) >I am directing a production of Charley's Aunt this coming Nov./Dec. and am >seeking cigars I can use (AND LIGHT and SMOKE) on stage that will be >acceptable in No Smoking Indoors situations such as we have here in Oregon Have the actors use real cigars and then act. Everyone in the audience will be willing to go along with it as they will also know the 'rules'. Or change the play. Anyone annoyed by really good cigars will be more annoyed by herbal cigars. Anyone who enjoys a decent cigar will be REALLY annoyed by herbal cigars. Burning floral matter is burning floral matter. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <410E9862.90404 [at] northnet.net> Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 14:39:14 -0500 From: Shawn Palmer Subject: position References: In-Reply-To: Hello all... This may be old news, but Michigan Tech is looking for an "interim TD" for their Rozsa Center. Here is the link: http://www.admin.mtu.edu/hro/postings/techndirinterimrozsa10mo07202004.pdf If anyone is interested in any of the "story" let me know off list. Shawn Palmer Pickard Civic Auditorium ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20040802195140.49241.qmail [at] web81707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 12:51:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Heinicke Subject: Looking for CAD blocks of casters... In-Reply-To: Does anyone happen to have any CAD blocks of a 6"x2"w swivel caster? My caster supplier hasn't been able to get them from the manufacturer, so I'm hoping someone the list might have some that they are willing to share. Thanks, Mike H ------------------------------ Message-ID: <410E9E3D.1000904 [at] northnet.net> Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 15:04:13 -0500 From: Shawn Palmer Subject: Sony question References: In-Reply-To: I am looking for a brilliant Sony dealer to answer a simple question. I am having a whale of a time getting through to the great and powerful OZ (oops, I mean Sony.) According to Sony's website, the MDS E12 minidisc player can be either 120 or 230 VAC, and either 50 or 60 Hz. I need to know if this is an option (meaning either/or), if it does either automatically or if it is set by the end user. Any info greatly appreciated... Shawn Palmer Neenah, WI ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 16:56:50 -0400 Subject: Re: Sony question From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: I'm sending you off list the PDF manuals for the E12. According to the manual you can set it yourself. Steve on 8/2/04 4:04 PM, Shawn Palmer at shawnp [at] northnet.net wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I am looking for a brilliant Sony dealer to answer a simple question. I > am having a whale of a time getting through to the great and powerful OZ > (oops, I mean Sony.) > > According to Sony's website, the MDS E12 minidisc player can be either > 120 or 230 VAC, and either 50 or 60 Hz. I need to know if this is an > option (meaning either/or), if it does either automatically or if it is > set by the end user. > > Any info greatly appreciated... > > Shawn Palmer > Neenah, WI > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 17:10:57 -0400 Subject: Re: Politics From: Herrick In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <7289D7E7-E4C8-11D8-8551-0003934521EC [at] hglightingdesign.com> On Monday, Aug 2, 2004, at 10:21 America/New_York, Ken Holyoak wrote: > > Work the poles, help your candidates, but keep it off the list. > > > Um..Ken, The Poles can't vote in this election...They aren't US citizens. Just wanted to save the effort of working them. > Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 17:21:34 -0400 Subject: A hard day, time for a libation From: Steve Larson Message-ID: "I'll take my drink on the rocks," Tom said icily. ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1ce.278ca2a5.2e400b8d [at] aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 17:26:37 EDT Subject: Re: Re: MSDS was:Olympic Torch Help Cc: StevevETTrn [at] aol.com In a message dated 7/31/4 8:52:34 AM, StevevETTrn [at] aol.com wrote: <> Steve - (and others more knowledgeable about OSHA than I) Can you tell me where you found this about cosmetics?? I just toured the Mary Kay manufacturing plant in Dallas, Texas and took a photo (still undeveloped) of the shelf full of MSDS binders that's kept in the R&D lab. They keep them for each ingredient separately plus one for each completed product - about 1,000 in all. They also have them for the cleaning supplies and other typical manufacturing things. Seems that if we need MSDS for floor cleansers, we should have them for facial cleansers too. (Then again... logic never was a strong suit for the US government.) Kristi Ross-Clausen still learning... http://www.marykay.com/kross-clausen ------------------------------ From: ken [at] kenholyoak.com (Ken Holyoak) Subject: RE: Politics Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 16:29:29 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040802213119327.AAA2652 [at] image.theimagefactory.com [at] compaq> Very Good, nice comeback Kenneth H. Holyoak Information+Insight=Profit HIG, LLC Mail POB 68633 Indianapolis IN 46268-0633 UPS 1508 E 86th Street Suite 177 Indianapolis IN 46240 ken [at] kenholyoak.com 317-253-7000 FAX 317-255-3708 -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Herrick Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 4:11 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Politics For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- On Monday, Aug 2, 2004, at 10:21 America/New_York, Ken Holyoak wrote: > > Work the poles, help your candidates, but keep it off the list. > > > Um..Ken, The Poles can't vote in this election...They aren't US citizens. Just wanted to save the effort of working them. > Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <65.2fcbf46d.2e400cb3 [at] aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 17:31:31 EDT Subject: Re: Politics In a message dated 8/2/04 2:11:11 PM, Herrick [at] hglightingdesign.com writes: << > Work the poles, help your candidates, but keep it off the list. > > > Um..Ken, The Poles can't vote in this election...They aren't US citizens. Just wanted to save the effort of working them. > Herrick Goldman >> Herrick, , you haven't spent enough time in Chicago obviously Keith Arsenault IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ Cc: StevevETTrn [at] aol.com Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 14:38:19 -0700 Subject: Re: MSDS was:Olympic Torch Help Message-ID: <20040802.143835.1568.1.ladesigners [at] juno.com> From: Richard Niederberg A saw MSDSs at both the Redken cosmetic plant, {now part of L'Oreal} and at the Merle Norman cosmetic plant in LA. I will assume then that they were there for worker safety [OSHA's bailiwick], and not for customer safety. /s/ Richard > In a message dated 7/31/4 8:52:34 AM, StevevETTrn [at] aol.com wrote: > < (FDA).>> > > Steve - (and others more knowledgeable about OSHA than I) > > Can you tell me where you found this about cosmetics?? > > I just toured the Mary Kay manufacturing plant in Dallas, > Texas and took a photo (still undeveloped) of the shelf full > of MSDS binders that's kept in the R&D lab. They keep them > for each ingredient separately plus one for each completed > product - about 1,000 in all. They also have them for the > cleaning supplies and other typical manufacturing things. > Kristi Ross-Clausen ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Message-ID: <004e01c478db$5d0535d0$0201a8c0 [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: A hard day, time for a libation Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 14:55:01 -0700 > "I'll take my drink on the rocks," Tom said icily. > That's not what he said.... "I prefer my Scotch without ice, " Tom said neatly. -- Jon Ares Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 16:50:51 -0500 From: Fred Fisher Subject: Re: Politics In-reply-to: Message-id: <5.2.1.1.2.20040802164948.02203060 [at] wiscmail.wisc.edu> >In a message dated 8/2/04 2:11:11 PM, Herrick [at] hglightingdesign.com writes: > ><< > Work the poles, help your candidates, but keep it off the list. > > > > > > >Um..Ken, > >The Poles can't vote in this election...They aren't US citizens. Just >wanted to save the effort of working them. > > > > >Herrick Goldman >> > > >Herrick, , you haven't spent enough time in Chicago obviously > > >Keith Arsenault > >IAEG - International Arts & Entertainment Group >Tampa, Florida Or in Florida where the Governor decides whose vote counts. Fred ------------------------------ Message-ID: <005f01c478dc$97eb3950$0201a8c0 [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: Politics Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 15:03:49 -0700 > >Herrick, , you haven't spent enough time in Chicago obviously > > > > Or in Florida where the Governor decides whose vote counts. > Fred <> Too close to political-speak. 10 yard penalty. You know the rules. Everybody out of the pool. Go to your rooms and think about what you've done. Don't make me get Dave Vick. -- Jon Ares Program Director, West Linn HS Theatre Arts www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 23:11:20 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: Politics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References:

On Mon, 2 Aug 2004, Jon Ares wrote: > Don't make me get Dave Vick. Argggggggghhhhhhh Please, no, not that!!! It's a fate worse than 'Dad' [geddit?] ------------------------------ From: "Matthew Breton" Subject: RE: A hard day, time for a libation Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 18:14:34 -0400 Message-ID: >"I'll take my drink on the rocks," Tom said icily. "What do you mean, you don't serve whiskey?" Tom said sourly. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page � FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Message-ID: <410EC903.D47A5817 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 19:06:43 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Organization: Furry green fuzz in the back of the refrigerator Subject: Re: Politics References:

Charlie Richmond wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > On Mon, 2 Aug 2004, Jon Ares wrote: > > > Don't make me get Dave Vick. > > Argggggggghhhhhhh Please, no, not that!!! It's a fate worse than 'Dad' And if that doesn't work, we'll send you Davie Dimmers to be your assistant on the next gig. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-ID: <410ECA79.254D76FF [at] cybercom.net> Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 19:12:58 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Organization: Furry green fuzz in the back of the refrigerator Subject: Re: MSDS was:Olympic Torch Help References: MissWisc [at] aol.com wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > In a message dated 7/31/4 8:52:34 AM, StevevETTrn [at] aol.com wrote: > <> > > Steve - (and others more knowledgeable about OSHA than I) > > Can you tell me where you found this about cosmetics?? > > I just toured the Mary Kay manufacturing plant in Dallas, Texas and took a > photo (still undeveloped) of the shelf full of MSDS binders that's kept in the > R&D lab. They keep them for each ingredient separately plus one for each > completed product - about 1,000 in all. They also have them for the cleaning > supplies and other typical manufacturing things. > > Seems that if we need MSDS for floor cleansers, we should have them for > facial cleansers too. (Then again... logic never was a strong suit for the US > government.) > > Kristi Ross-Clausen > still learning... > http://www.marykay.com/kross-clausen There is a MSDS for everything. Stuff that is perfectly fine for it's intended use, can be bad if used improperly. Like what if your three year old got into the cosmetics and ate half a bottle of facial cleanser. ( And yes, this is a case that I responded too during my volunteer fire department days. ) Would be nice to know if the stuff was a virulent poison of was just going to give the kid the running shits. Look up the MSDS for single malt scotch. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.1.20040802193137.01b1fc38 [at] incoming.verizon.net> Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 19:33:21 -0400 From: Patrick McCreary Subject: Re: Looking for CAD blocks of casters... In-Reply-To: References:

At 03:51 PM 8/2/2004, you wrote: >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > >Does anyone happen to have any CAD blocks of a 6"x2"w >swivel caster? My caster supplier hasn't been able to >get them from the manufacturer, so I'm hoping someone >the list might have some that they are willing to >share. > >Thanks, >Mike H I've got a 3D of a Bassick 4 x 1-1/2 that you could maybe scale? If you want 2D, go to hamiltoncasters.com and download the file of your choice. Patrick G. Patrick McCreary Ass't. Professor - Technical Director Department of Theater and Dance Indiana University of Pennsylvania Indiana, PA 15701 (Office) 724-357-2644 (Home) 724-349-4309 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 21:11:48 -0400 Subject: Re: Balloon Drop From: Magellan315 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Chris Babbie hit the nail right on the head, no pun intended. I'm sure if CNN had been asked to put on of their producers headsets through a broadcast feed they would have had the same problem. Norman Lazarus ------------------------------ Message-ID: <410EFE5A.7060809 [at] comcast.net> Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 19:54:18 -0700 From: mat goebel Cc: THEATRE-SOUND [at] LISTSERV.AOL.COM (theatre sound) Subject: My Career Plan -- input wanted! Here is my basic plan for my education and carerr. Please offer input and/or criticism as you see fit! 1. Attend a full time (40 hours a week, year round) specialty school to get a Bachelor of Applied Science in Sound Arts. (http://www.expression.edu/sa) 2. While in school, get on the local IATSE overhire and start doing as much overhire as I can, to prove to local professionals that I can show up on time, be prepared, work hard, etc... 3. After school (hopefully having enough overhire hours) join the union to be an apprentice, put in my two years as an apprentice, take my journeyman test and see where things go... My rationalisaston for going to school (even though I am planning to join the union) is that having a degree, I will know what's going on and have solid theory behind me before I try to put things in practice. I mean, it seems like I could prove myself a lot faster if I already knew what was going on (but was of course still open to input, learning, and criticism =) ). Thoughts? -- Mat G. Entertainment Technical Services Paramount's Great America "Remember kids, an *actor* shot Abe Lincoln." ------------------------------ From: Bsapsis [at] aol.com Message-ID: <12a.47af0bd3.2e407116 [at] aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 00:39:50 EDT Subject: Re: Hello and lineset question In a message dated 8/2/04 3:36:52 AM, OneOccy [at] hotmail.com writes: << Bill is that a new law or regulation that some of us are not aware of? >> No. There are no specific laws governing rigging equipment for the theatre. It's the manufacturers specifications. Bill S. ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #90 ****************************